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Based Florida Man's avatar

Another notable about Florida going from purple to red is the empowerment of a strong conservative gubmint, which has managed to get crime under control compared to lefty hellholes.

"Florida crime hits a 50 year low"

https://www.firstcoastnews.com/article/news/verify/yes-florida-crime-rate-is-at-a-50-year-low-true/77-0e2806a6-946c-4613-aba2-d85ac0bafeae

https://www.fdle.state.fl.us/News/2022/November/Florida-crime-rate-drops-for-record-50-year-low

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Sunnydaze's avatar

As optimistic as I would like to be….I’m left wondering…..and assuming….the switch from purple to red in Florida happened because all the freedom loving patriots from across America moved to Florida. That led to all the new Republican registering. I don’t get the sense democraps in Florida switched their party affiliation out of some sense of reality and common sense based decision.

So those in the disgusting blue hell holes may not have as much hope as Florida had to give, because conservatives are leaving those places and moving elsewhere to places like Tennessee, Kentucky, Texas, Florida, N Carolina etc etc. So how will blue hell holes get more conservatives registered?

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Based Florida Man's avatar

It's mixed.

- Some FL residents have become more conservative and switched allegiance. I've seen that among neighbors who acknowledge strong Sheriffs keep crime down. Miami/Dade switched to light red not from immigration but people there (Blacks, Hispanics, Whites, etc) seeing the benefits of supporting their police. Miami has a Republican mayor as a result.

- Lots of people moving from YankeeLand are also still lefties. There's no shortage of them; so that helps the conservatives that still remain in YankeeLand.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Now that's a good point about conservatives still in YankeeLand (I am one, in both PA and ME)--but sorry for you that you are being infected. However, perhaps most of those lefties invading you are vaxxed, and thus won't long have an effect? Here's hoping.

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Annie's avatar

Love seeing the positive side of things. 👍😉

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Erin Fight's avatar

All well and good, but if voting is not brought back to in-person only and paper ballots (as opposed to CCP controlled Doe minion), I have very little faith in elections.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Love watching Grady Judd--found him a few years ago. Talk about snark! And I wish I lived in his county.

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Fla Mom's avatar

He's one of the worst, if not the worst, Sheriffs for confiscating guns from citizens with inadequate due process under the 2018 red flag law. I checked Florida's statistics a year ago, and there had been no trend downward, and possibly a slight trend upward, in crimes using guns, meaning that the red flag law has made no difference to anything except our God-given, not government-granted, right to keep and bear arms. "To secure these rights, governments are instituted among men." The only reason given for having government at all.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Oh wow. That’s interesting. I hadn’t heard anything about that regarding him. 🤔 That does not instill confidence. Plus, as much as we like his stance which has been -my county owns guns and if you break into their houses you will get shot and they will not be prosecuted, you will - I wonder why crime is so high in this county. That didn’t add up for me. 🤔

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Thanks for that bit of info!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Thanks for that perspective. It’s important to see the facts not the image or hype, on both sides, as much as possible.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Edit: We do not know him personally. Only his reputation for not putting up with crime and his many sting operations involving taking down sex trafficking rings and drug busts. We like that he shows the pictures of the criminals and what laws they broke. And always points out the ones who work at Disney.

We love him!!! He is awesome!!!

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Doesn’t surprise me at all. Interesting to look at the picture of the deputy who died from the “covid”…. Very healthy? Looks very over weight actually. Not judging. Just saying it seems like the ones who died during this had some other issue going on too that nobody wants to talk about.

In any case…. It’s a good thing I don’t take medical advice from a sheriff. I look to him to protect the county he was elected to defend. That’s it. He could tell me to go get a check up, get a shingles vaccine, or a mammogram and I’d ignore him on that front. He gets zero say in what I do medically. 🤷‍♀️

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RunningLogic's avatar

It doesn’t seem like he was for mandates from what I can tell but you’re right, it’s ridiculous to let someone who knows nothing about these shots (and that includes doctors who didn’t inform themselves but just blindly followed the CDC and FDA) to sway your decision to take it or not.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

He did say he would not mandate it. So that was good. But yes, agree about even doctors pushing it. They did zero research themselves. Just did as they were told. No thanks 👎🏻

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Sis in Naples confirms.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Great analysis BFM!

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Steph D's avatar

Speaking of disgusting blue hellholes, I live in Massachusetts. However, our entire family is here and I do love my suburban neighborhood. We also have some wonderful, red blooded, conservative, American flag waving neighbors. We even attend the same church as our young neighbors closest to our house.

But if you get on one of those neighborhood social sites it’s a dumpster fire of alphabet ppl/rainbow flag posting nut jobs. The normal people are absent or silent in those spaces. Our town is happily hosting a pride event this weekend. Yay. 🙄

I will be cautiously optimistic as Jeff requested, but know that this is the home of Republican Governors, Mitt Romney and Charlie Baker.

In short, Massachusetts is a state where even our republicans are democrats. God help us.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Funny you bring up the neighborhood social sites….My town in Oregon is more conservative than not. But I left their town social media page because the libtards took it over! It was disgusting. The conservatives got bullied right out the door and stopped commenting. Now the only comments and posts are from the crazies. Anyone new to the town, based on that page, would pack up and leave if they were conservative.

In fact, my mom shared a post advertising that Jim Caviezels movie Sound of Freedom was coming out. Just letting people know which theaters were showing it. Some lady got on right away and said “this town is not the demographic for a movie like that” 😳 Seriously? So she decided what movie every person in that town wants to see? Like that? You mean like exposing child sex trafficking???? Not the demographic?? You mean white middle class Americans?? Wow. Stupid is as stupid does.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Ugh so frustrating. I see this too on sites like Next Door but I think that site actively promotes lefty views and censors the other ones.

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Eli's avatar

A story about Next Door. I wanted to bring (bow) deer hunting into our suburban neighborhood because the deer were destroying the woods and lots of folks had lyme disease. I stealth-used discussions about deer on Next Door to mark the houses of people who were for, against, or neutral about killing the deer. In person, I talked to individuals and gathered circles of people who would sign the permission forms for the hunters to come in -- all they needed was a radius for hunting and then retrieving and no one else needed to know. When things started, someone leaked the info that I had started it. I was attacked mercilessly on Next Door by the lefties who wanted to save the deer (aka disease spreading rats with antlers -- sorry I really hate kids getting lyme disease). But by then the hunting was in place. Six years on, and the forest is coming back. Hoping there will be less lyme now too. Those who had children affected by lyme told me I'm doing God's work. That made up for the Next-Door attacks.

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RunningLogic's avatar

That’s a great story! I’m glad you managed to do it in spite of the leftist hatefulness. Deer are also such a danger for drivers. I hate how people romanticize and anthropomorphize animals. My mom called it the Disney effect. Like everyone thinks it’s a bunch of Bambis out there 🙄

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Eli's avatar

Yes! I like to call hunting Bambicide. 250 people killed every year by deer (and many more injured, some in life changing ways)-- they are by far the most dangerous animal, over and above grizzly bears, sharks, poisonous snakes, etc. There is lots of excellent research showing that when hunting is brought in, car/deer collisions go down and lives are saved. Now our county uses me as a consultant to talk to folks who want to bring in hunters to their neighborhood, and even to speak at neighborhood events. My brother says I should run for office on the anti-deer ticket :)

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RunningLogic's avatar

“Bambicide!”!! 🤣😆 I love that! 😂

Yes, spot on, so many people have no idea! Also, I am betting the deer if given the choice, would prefer to be killed by a skilled hunter, rather than dying by getting hit by a car 😕 (probably being badly maimed initially and suffering a longer more painful death).

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Eli's avatar

Absolutely. The deer die in seconds from well placed heart/double lung shots.

Interesting thought -- could you imagine if grizzly bears were killing 250 people a year and were grossly over populated, and folks decided that instead of bringing the population down through hunting, they should spend thousands of dollars per bear to put them on birth control? That's what HSUS/PETA does with deer anywhere they can convince people to do it. Of course, it doesn't work. Also, HSUS/PETA owns the patent on the birth control drug PZP (a little research gets you to that truth). Just another example of liberal insanity along with drug money dictating stupid actions under the guise of being humane. (HSUS is not to be confused with local Humane Society groups, which do care about animal welfare)

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GG's avatar

They all do that. If you get all your information and interaction online and everyone there is a crazy leftist, you tend to think that everyone is a crazy leftist. The left do pay people to sit at home and make comments on social media all day. They have a psyop to win!

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Yes it does! I see a conservative group on there and the two admins are constantly censored and restricted and banned. It’s ridiculous. I’m only on there to get recommendations for businesses that I need contact with. Being somewhat new to Florida still has its challenges. Lol. One sacrifice is staying on Lefty Loony Nextdoor. 😖

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Gaye's avatar

Read their about info. Def BLM and all that Marxist gibber.

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AngelaA's avatar

I feel like that may be the case with town social media everywhere. I’m in reddish Ft Worth and I rarely look at Nextdoor because I know the crazies run it. Every now and then I’ll look up something there and then chuckle/cringe when I see a conservative post or say anything. As we say in TX, bless their hearts...

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Yes! Nextdoor is lefty nonsense!

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John Bugni's avatar

Oregonian agreeing!

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Momcat's avatar

Amen! A while back our library planned a drag queen reading for little kids, all the libs were praising it, all planned to take their little kids. I posted "drag queens are adult entertainment" one time on their glowing recommendations. Did I get raked over the coals by every young mother on that site! I had pages & pages of insulting messages. I sent each one a response asking why it was necessary for grown men to dress up clownishly & talk dirty to children. Never got a response from any of them to that. The library eventually canceled the event.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Felt the same way about whatever it was called--Backyard? Was on for about two years, almost always disgusted, then cancelled to spare my gastrointestinal system.

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SadieJay's avatar

If one was an 'infiltrator' of Soros ilk, what better way to discourage and disguise. That is a whole new angle and I think you all might be on to something with the neighborhood pages and what they misrepresent. Mighty interesting. I would say stay on those damn pages and speak up. They are the mask issue of 2023. There are way more of us than there are of the alphabet mob and it is time to stop being bullied out of spaces we and our point of view absolutely are entitled to belong.

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Jack Bergeron's avatar

I also live in Massachusetts. I have a theory about the voting process here. If a political party, like the Democratic party, wanted to test out the stealing of elections the best place to do that would be in a state popularly considered “blue” as nobody would be surprised or question why/how a candidate such as Scott Brown could lose to a dimwit fraud like Elizabeth Warren, how a pervert like Barney Frank could continually win reelections, or a true Republican like Geoff Diehl could lose to a corrupt Attorney General like Maura Healey. I also have no doubt one of the Democrats’ plots is to infiltrate the Republican Party here with RINOs like Mitt Romney and Charlie Baker. Way back in the early part of this century I had the opportunity to personally speak with the Constitutional Party’s candidate for President of the United States. I asked him directly if I would have the opportunity to vote for him in MA. He told me he qualified to be on the ballot in 49 states. MA was the only state where his name would not be on the ballot. He claimed he had more than enough signatures to be on the ballot but our illustrious Secretary of State William Galvin had a never list of excuses why the signatures could not/would not be validated. Rayla Campbell is the most recent political office seeker I’m aware of who was disqualified by Galvin’s shenanigans.

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Kathryn Dewalt's avatar

I'm a Californian...77 years. And I love my home state. But for the last decade, my disgust, distrust and disappointment has grown. I'm embarrassed by the state of my state.

I won't jump ship...everyone and everything I know and love is here! But to be honest, if my husband had not left for Heaven, I might've urged transplanting... However, perhaps not, as he loved California.

BTW...I love Massachusetts. I have family and friends there.

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Steph D's avatar

Yikes Cat, you need to move! Easier said than done I realize. I have a nursing degree and in 2018, I went to conferences to gain credits in order to become part time or fill-in school nurse. When the power point on student’s health confidentiality was discussed I was overcome with anger.

We were told that as a school nurse, you could counsel, encourage, and even arrange rides after school for girls to go to reproductive health clinics AKA abortion mills, but we could not discuss with parents unless the CHILD gave us permission!

Even back then, they were talking about kids who were ‘transgender’ that we had to fully embrace their newfound identities and again, parents were not informed unless the child agreed to it!

The nurses could keep ‘private’ notes on these children in a locked desk drawer. But we were warned that administration and teachers were not at liberty to see the notes because parents could be inadvertently told about their own children’s secret adventures while at school. This would be a big problem according to the Association of school nurses. Crazy!

I haven’t worked as a nurse since 2020. I bet you can guess why not.

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AngelaA's avatar

Abortions can happen a month after the baby is born?! 😭 I can’t even imagine, this is so evil.

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Dianne Denson's avatar

Yeah, it's called murder.

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Susan Catherine's avatar

Those blue hell holes seem like breeding grounds to me. They breed them then they spread like a disease. While Florida has benefitted by gaining more conservative folk due to either the red moving there or their existing blue flipping to red, Arizona has had an influx of blue from CA which is having an effect on us. I'm not sure, but it seems like TX has been in the same boat.

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Patrice's avatar

I'm a conservative who left California for Arizona and I will warrant that there are a lot more of us than Libs who left. I think people in red states need to stop blaming Californians and look how their young people (who have spent years in indoctrination camps known as public schools) are voting. I know that when they looked at the demographics of who voted for Beto in Texas, it was the young Texans, not the newly arrived Californians.

I will also note that the majority of my children's homeschooled friends also kept their parents' values. Those who spent any time in the public school system were less likely to maintain their parents' conservative values.

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Michelle's avatar

Exactly! WA state just wrote a new climate curriculum that they want pushed in all subject areas, that teaches students to ignore scientific data and make decisions based on their emotions.... I pulled my kids out in 2020, and they’ll never ho back. I wish moving were an option, but it is not...

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Good job for pulling them out! 💪🏻

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AngelaK's avatar

Yes! Public schools have become indocrination camps. Who ever thought that in this once great, God loving country we would be scared to send our children to public schools. 😢

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Dianne Skagen McBeth's avatar

School choice is an essential concept to save publicly funded education.

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Susan Catherine's avatar

That's good to hear, particularly from someone who has their finger on the pulse of red Californian's.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Good points!

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SadieJay's avatar

You are absolutely right. And Hubs pointed this out. And...I replied "with all the South American Catholics coming over the border and maybe turning a state purple-ish from blue." It may just backfire on those idiot mouthpieces behind the podiums in the WH press room.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I hope so!

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Annie's avatar

Well with the culling due to the clot shots to the natural risks of injury and death from epic failures of blue state policies like defund the police etc = less people of the blue political persuasion. Eventually it will get better. 😉😏

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

It does seem clear that many more on the left took the toxxine than those on the right, and are now injured or dying in proportionately larger numbers.

They know it's true, but can't admit openly that they jumped right on that cattle car themselves. At least they are being quiet about the jab lately, something of an improvement.

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Annie's avatar

Oh yeah. They will go down with their ship #ABV.

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Concerned Doctor's avatar

So you're saying Florida isn't having issues like this? No way! I am told here in WA that RDS is the devil. By the way, the Seattle mayor is blaming access to guns, not this deranged individual's behavior, for this terrible crime, surprising no one of course. https://people.com/man-charged-killing-pregnant-woman-seattle-7550225

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

If I bang my thumb, it's the hammer's fault, not mine. I'm filing a lawsuit against my hammer. Who's up to be my attorney?

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Concerned Doctor's avatar

Yep. Just like I blame my pen or the computer for misspellings. God forbid I accept responsibility for my actions.

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Seeking Grace's avatar

And it’s definitely the fork’s fault if I eat too much and gain weight. Anyone who says it’s my fault is just fat shaming and clearly a bigot! 😉

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JimB's avatar

Not the hammers fault, it’s the company that made the hammer.

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Duckduffer's avatar

Hammers should definitely be banned

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Curtis's avatar

Actually hammers and similar devices are used on vastly more homicides than guns. This from official sources.

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Bryan Dair's avatar

Bring down the Ban Hammer on hammerers.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

THanks--I had forgotten that Smith and Wesson were being attacked that way

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Heather's avatar

I’d love to file a suit like that and use gun case law as part of the case in order to lose, but sadly, I think any lawyer that brought a case like this might win (I’m not a lawyer, obviously, but would like to be a party to something like this if I thought it could open the eyes of the painfully stupid)

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on the doss's avatar

My cat Rosie volunteers, pro bono.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Gratias tibi, o Rosie, ago.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Places like that are also suing Kia/Hyundai for their cars that are easily hacked by a USB trick. But isn't that still the criminal's fault? These politician's do anything to protect the criminals.

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Concerned Doctor's avatar

Yep. In fact, our state AG Bob Ferguson, who's running an unofficial campaign for governor in 2024, is leading a lawsuit against those companies. The guy is all about defending criminals and making us law abiding citizens suffer. God help us if he's elected.

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DiAnna Webber's avatar

That’s why we need to get out there and start talking to our neighbors and getting more people to vote. There are a lot of good Republicans still in the state. If we end up with AG Bob, Ferguson, as governor, the state is going to just get worse, in my opinion.

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Michelle's avatar

I agree we all must vote, but nothing is going to change here with the mail-in ballots and completely not-transparent elections, where it is now illegal to even question results. Do you remember what happened to Dino Rossi in 2004?

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DiAnna Webber's avatar

Yes, I do remember what happened to Dino Rossi, but there are a lot of people working very hard right now to make changes. I get that having mail-in ballots are challenging, but we have to press forward. I am not giving up. If you aren’t already aware of the group called Conservative Ladies of Washington’s or CLW for short, I highly recommend you check them out. If you have a Facebook account, you can find them on there. They’ve been working very hard with the legislatures and they are getting noticed. And for the record, it’s started as a woman’s only group, but it has expanded so much now that it’s open to both men and women, and we have so many great people helping and getting involved in local politics that were never involved before.

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Concerned Doctor's avatar

1000000000%. I told hubby we gotta leave if he's elected.

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Michelle's avatar

We didn’t think anything could be worse than Inslee... But alas, we were wrong.

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Celayne Jones's avatar

Communist Islamicist Minnesota AG Keith Ellison is party to the Kia lawsuit. He’s a complete tool. He just sent a strongly worded letter to Target, out of concern that Target caved to public pressure and removed some tranny childrens’ wear from its stores. “Domestic terrorism” featured prominently in the letter. Where was the concern when actual terrorists were looting and burning Target in Minneapolis 3 years ago? Crickets.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I’d like a deeper dive into that. I no way trust the media on the First Coast. And there doesn’t appear to be any decrease in the stories of almost daily street shootings in Duval County.

You know how they fiddle with the numbers to get this or that headline out of it.

Any reason they would want to fake such a thing in Florida, of all places?

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Willing Spirit's avatar

The Left goes in all directions at all times to see what is handy for them. Except for when it comes to President Trump. They are in lockstep on Orange Man dangerous criminal.

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GenEarly's avatar

Bushie Repubs joined the democRats on Trump....... I guess the sElection Coup of 2020 was "Legitimate" too. ...... 81 Million Votes My A$$

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I can certainly believe the # of arrests have been halved. The noise ordinances have absolutely been dissolved. It takes a lot to get arrested in Duval County.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Shoplifting has been ignored since early Ovomit.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I can attest to the fact that burglary is considered a nothing burger for the most part.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Oh Zion Ron DeSantis is no saint. There's a long list of sketchy crap he's up to.

'Rino Ron DeSantis will never speak about the 2020 election fraud.' etc, etc.

BUT he's still leading the way better than most other Repub governors for business climate, education, and crime.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

He has an extremely compliant huge majority Republican legislature that I’m sure is the envy of many a Governor. He has gotten some handy bills passed.

Like how he can run for President and still be Governor. And how there is a total blackout on his travels and wheeling sand dealings.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Well we have a supermajority Republican legislature and have gotten Democrat light with our RINO governor 😕

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I wish he would stay here and deal with what he got elected to do in FLORIDA rather than travel the country campaigning. Why is he getting paid to campaign?! I hate that. He’s got a job to do HERE! Instead he’s MIA.

The insurance issue in Florida needs to get dealt with too. We just put a brand new roof on our house. You think we can find affordable insurance? Nope. In fact in exchange for the $20k we spent on a roof and the fact we’ve never had a claim on any home we’ve owned, our rate is going UP instead of down! Does that make any sense? And this is a problem everywhere in Florida. I am not complaining about something that is exclusive to us. So discouraging. RD get your a$$ back to Florida and deal with this issue!

There are soooo many other issues too. Education. Healthcare. Election fraud. Crime. Disabled community. Aging community. It isn’t all just about freedom. There’s more.

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Undine's avatar

It's stories like that which make me scream with laughter whenever I hear the "Democrats would REALLY rather run against Trump than DeSantis" gibberish.

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devoalan's avatar

Part of it might be the fact that so many of us are armed, and we have people like Grady!

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I’m waiting to see how those new Republicans vote in the Primaries. DeSantis endorsed Mayoral candidate for Jacksonville lost to the Democrat. I believe that was due to good conservatives being massacred by the RINO establishment in the Primaries. They used every dirty trick you ever heard of to put Davis on the ballot. Davis was viewed as the chosen disciple of Lenny Curry (outgoing mayor-totally now despised in conservative circles) and conservatives said, hell no! Finally, we are done with voting for the ‘lesser of 2 evils! Hallelujah! That’s all that was making it through the Primaries and we are sick of it!

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GenEarly's avatar

Estab RNC rinoRats are a Big problem here in JawGA. At least DeSantis didn't go to Davos like WEFer Kemp did, or the despicable Ratsburger as Dominion's Sec of State in Atlanter.

Not that Bushie $$$ DeSantis should be allowed anywhere near the WH, 2024 or Ever. imo.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Hopefully RDS hasn’t gone to Davos. But there’s no guarantee as he got himself a secrecy shield from the Florida Legislature.

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devoalan's avatar

The fact that so any of us horrid Floridians are armed might have something to do with. And we have people like Grady!

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Peter GL's avatar

and yet owning gun in Florida is still legal!! GET THAT YOU MORONIC CA and NY?

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Sandy's avatar

I have found in my conservative Florida county that the voter turnout in local elections and school board elections is pitiful. So by and large, non-conservatives are being elected.

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Maureen ODH's avatar

...definitely... among several commenters looked forward to...🎯👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

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Christy's avatar

Totally agree!

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SusanMc's avatar

Amen!!

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Boflys's avatar

Concur! Happy to have you as a fellow Floridian!

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Celayne Jones's avatar

Agreed!

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