Excellent point that I had not considered. God allowed it to happen ("gave them over to the desires of their hearts") as punishment for their wickedness. One could take that to mean He removed that innate revulsion that made people hesitant to engage in certain behaviors. No surprise this passage regards sexual immorality.
Excellent point that I had not considered. God allowed it to happen ("gave them over to the desires of their hearts") as punishment for their wickedness. One could take that to mean He removed that innate revulsion that made people hesitant to engage in certain behaviors. No surprise this passage regards sexual immorality.
Might I suggest your reading 2 Timothy 3. The entire chapter explains what is happening now and how God's Word is as relevant, living and breathing, as it was even before it was penned.
Thanks, that is a very appropriate passage. One thing that always stuck me as out of place when Paul is running down the list of behavior in the last days is "disobedient to parents". It seemed sort of trivial compared to the others, like Paul was describing a child refusing to eat his vegetables.
Now I get it. When have we ever seen kids demand that their genitals be mutilated in defiance of their parents wishes? Or secretly pretend they are a different gender when away from their parents? Or seek out bizarre sexual information and practices from adults behind their parents backs?
All the signs are there for those paying attention.
Truth! But Satan is the great deceiver and wants nothing more than to lead children away from their parents. We see the destruction of marriage, family, children, and church and on and on. If we don't stand up, who will? We should be praying that God's Holy Spirit would convict us to speak truth loudly everywhere we go, every single day.
I don’t believe God removed an innate revulsion to engage in wickedness, people choose either to follow God and His Commandments or they choose to disobey Him. He gave us free will.
No doubt He gave us free will and we use that to follow or reject Him. What I'm talking about is something different, an innate sense of disgust at certain things or behaviors.
Think about it, why do some things smell bad to us? What would make our brains recoil in disgust at the smell of something (or someone) putrid whereas we enjoy the odor of a rose? That putrid thing is almost always bad for us and it's as if we know at a base (subconscious) level to avoid it. There's a built-in inhibition there (from God) that goes beyond merely knowing right from wrong. The same thing applies to behavior, there are some we recoil in disgust at versus those that make us happy when we see them.
The verses Fred quoted, "Therefore God gave them over in the desires of their hearts to impurity for the dishonoring of their bodies with one another." implies God did something that removed their God-given inhibitions. In the context of the text He did this as punishment for their wickedness.
Excellent point that I had not considered. God allowed it to happen ("gave them over to the desires of their hearts") as punishment for their wickedness. One could take that to mean He removed that innate revulsion that made people hesitant to engage in certain behaviors. No surprise this passage regards sexual immorality.
Might I suggest your reading 2 Timothy 3. The entire chapter explains what is happening now and how God's Word is as relevant, living and breathing, as it was even before it was penned.
Thanks, that is a very appropriate passage. One thing that always stuck me as out of place when Paul is running down the list of behavior in the last days is "disobedient to parents". It seemed sort of trivial compared to the others, like Paul was describing a child refusing to eat his vegetables.
Now I get it. When have we ever seen kids demand that their genitals be mutilated in defiance of their parents wishes? Or secretly pretend they are a different gender when away from their parents? Or seek out bizarre sexual information and practices from adults behind their parents backs?
All the signs are there for those paying attention.
Truth! But Satan is the great deceiver and wants nothing more than to lead children away from their parents. We see the destruction of marriage, family, children, and church and on and on. If we don't stand up, who will? We should be praying that God's Holy Spirit would convict us to speak truth loudly everywhere we go, every single day.
Excellent suggested reading, Maggie. 👍🏼
I don’t believe God removed an innate revulsion to engage in wickedness, people choose either to follow God and His Commandments or they choose to disobey Him. He gave us free will.
No doubt He gave us free will and we use that to follow or reject Him. What I'm talking about is something different, an innate sense of disgust at certain things or behaviors.
Think about it, why do some things smell bad to us? What would make our brains recoil in disgust at the smell of something (or someone) putrid whereas we enjoy the odor of a rose? That putrid thing is almost always bad for us and it's as if we know at a base (subconscious) level to avoid it. There's a built-in inhibition there (from God) that goes beyond merely knowing right from wrong. The same thing applies to behavior, there are some we recoil in disgust at versus those that make us happy when we see them.
The verses Fred quoted, "Therefore God gave them over in the desires of their hearts to impurity for the dishonoring of their bodies with one another." implies God did something that removed their God-given inhibitions. In the context of the text He did this as punishment for their wickedness.