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Deliver those who are being taken away to death,

And those who are staggering to slaughter, Oh hold them back.

If you say, “See, we did not know this,”

Does He not consider it who weighs the hearts?

And does He not know it who keeps your soul?

And will He not render to man according to his work?

— Proverbs 24:11-12 NAS95

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My Jesus speaks over the chaos and clatter of this world to assure me that He alone is my peaceful, quiet refuge.

Psalm 46:10

Psalm 57:1

John 16:33

—Excerpt from My Jesus: Reflections of the Redeemer, Words Beyond Me Press, 2025.

Sylvia M. Demarest's avatar

Jeff please stop swallowing the propaganda. Khamenei was not an “evil man” he was a moderate who issued a Fatwa against Iran developing nuclear weapons. Now he’s dead along with several family members including a young child, thanks to Israel. Allowing Israel to lead us into this war is a big mistake. Remember, it’s easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled.

Mary C Irwin's avatar

I’m not believing I’m reading this: Khamenei was a “moderate”?? Then why are we seeing videos of displaced Iranians cheering and dancing in the streets, just like the Venezuelans in January?

Dena's avatar

I’m sure you’re as upset that Khamenei (sp) had his thug forces murder thousands of Iranian protesters?

Dr. K's avatar

Hey, it was only 30,000...what's 30,000 marchers gone among friends?

KATHAZEL's avatar
4hEdited

There are also videos of thousands of Iranians mourning the loss of their leader and vowing revenge. (In a country of 93 million people both sets of videos can be true by the way.)

Francis Keays's avatar

Stockholm syndrome anyone? Or

If the hard line leader is dead and you have no idea who is going to take over, but assume it to be another hardliner, it is called giving yourself cover. If another hardliner takes over, every single one of those that celebrated will be killed. Those that "mourned" publicly, will not.

When you had nearly 50 years of do it my way or suffer hard labor, torture and or death, you get very careful with your private thoughts and your public image may be very different. Or Stockholm syndrome.

KATHAZEL's avatar
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Well last time the CIA interfered with the Iranian government I recall it sparked such anti-American backlash that it ended up bringing the Ayatollahs into power. In a country of 93 million they will all have a variety of viewpoints, and many will support the current regime, and many won't. Suggesting all that do have Stockholm Syndrome is absurd.

Maha's avatar

That was then. This is now. Those that "supported" the regime did so to profit, or to hurt innocent people, or to survive. The cheering in the streets and around the world suggest the murderous regime was not a people's favorite.

John Linder's avatar

Another Jimmy Carter failure. He gave Taiwan away that year also.

S.P.H.'s avatar

Mourn or be killed KATHAZEL. When living under tyranny you do what you must do to remain alive or profit.

KATHAZEL's avatar
2hEdited

Such simplistic statements. I am a westerner living in a democratic society. The Iranian regime appears repressive to me, but I do not live in Iran nor read or speak Iranian. I have no idea what they as a culture really want and neither do most Americans. Countries must have a right of self-determination, nobody appointed Trump as the world's policeman and the only ones winning in this war are the military industrial complex

Jane Foster's avatar

I have not lived in Iran, but I have lived in Pakistan. It was not the same as Iran, but for a modern, rational Westerner it was an effing nightmare. I have 2 shoeboxes full of clippings from English-language Pakistani newspapers reporting on honor killings, acid attacks on women, rape victims who were imprisoned because they dishonored their male relatives by being the victims of rape, women who were burned to death in "stove accidents," etc. I think I do know what most Iranians want. You do not. Iranians did not have self-determination under the Islamic fundamentalists, that's for sure. They did not have rights. And by the way, "Iranian" is not a language. The official language of Iran is Persian (Farsi), with related languages spoken by various groups inside the country.

John of Oregon Fame's avatar

Kathazel, right of self-determination to develope nuclear weapons when they have declared intent to use? And the world around them opposes. You are correct, you have no idea what they as a culture really want, but it is discoverable and smart people that make these kind of decisions do.

Juju's avatar

My thoughts exactly. I’m like whaaaaat??? 😳 Do we really people that uninformed and brainwashed???

John of Oregon Fame's avatar

Juju, it helps to use the persons name that you are responding to. I can't tell who your comment is to.

Juju's avatar

I was replying to Mary who was replying to Sylvia.

But Thank you! I’ll try to remember that and start up the habit! It’s a smart idea. I was early today and the long list of replies was nothing like it is right now, so you could easily swipe up and immediately see who I was responding to. But now? By the time you get to my comment it’s “huh? Who’s she talking to?” 🤣

Today’s comment section is especially long, messy, and confusing. Soooo much chatter today. I’m losing my own place after typing out a reply to someone!

Matt L.'s avatar
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I think Jeff should stick to straight reporting on the war with Iran. It’s way too early to draw any conclusion. Let’s watch and see.

Iran attacked all those various Arab countries because US warplanes that bombed Iran were directly or indirectly supported from those bases. Jeff left this part out. Some warplanes took off from those bases, bombed Iran, and returned to those bases. Any rational thinker can understand why Iran would target those bases. Including me, an America citizen and 3x Trump voter.

I hope Iran’s Revolutionary Guard is completely decimated. Enough so that the Artesh (who is not being targeted because this part of the army is way less ideological) will be able to control the Basij, which is the decentralized paramilitary force affiliated w/ the IRGC and embedded in every Iranian city. When the bombs stop, it’s a fight between Basij and Artesh. Which one will win? It could be decided after a lot of extrajudicial killings. After all, it was the Basij who largely put down the last uprising (w/ estimated 10K to 30K protesters given a dirt nap). Those people know what’s in store for them if they lose, which likely means a mean civil war battle ahead.

Past Supreme Loser, Khomeini, referred to Basij as "The Twenty Million Army", claiming that about 75% of the population at the time were Basijis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basij

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Republic_of_Iran_Army

Juju's avatar

You must be new here. That’s what Jeff does best, connect dots!! To suggest he shouldn’t do this is ridiculous. Have you been around for five years to see how many times he nailed it? Apparently not.

One thing I have observed over the years I have personally followed him is he puts a LOT of deep thought and analysis when he “draws conclusions”, as you say, but really he’s not drawing conclusions at all but connecting dots. There IS a big difference. And many times, OFTEN actually, he waits before reporting on or giving opinions about something current in the news, and THAT draws the opposite criticism of, “why aren’t you covering THIS, Jeff?,” or, “why are you ignoring THAT, Jeff?”, and “your silence is awfully suspicious, Jeff,” in an accusatory manner and tone. Apparently he can’t win.

He won’t offer analysis until he feels he has adequate information.

And once he does he is more than willing than anyone else I have ever read to admit when he got it wrong. He is VERY careful. Usually though he gets it right and has a track record MSM should fiercely envy, and probably do. Someone like that is a threat when you’re trying to control the narrative. THEY would want him to stick to just straight reporting. Makes me wonder who you are.

But that’s not who Jeff is. Honestly if you don’t like it you should just move along because this Substack is not for you. He’s not going to stop his style, nor should he.

So pardon me if your “I think Jeff should stick to straight reporting” rubs me the wrong way. You aren’t anywhere close to his caliber to think he should do anything different than he does.

There are a LOT of new readers here recently, (and some old trolls,) who don’t like how influential he is. They have agendas, and I think THEY should stick to straight reporting and leave the professional analysis to the more skilled thinkers like Jeff, but who am I to tell them what they can and cannot report on in the comments? This is a place where all views and opinions can be expressed, so long as it is done respectfully. Telling someone what they should and shouldn’t be saying isn’t very respectful at all.

Everyone has the freedom to share their “conclusions” here in the comments. So how much more does the author of the Substack? You just did! We may reply in fierce disagreement, and some may ridicule someone over their conclusions, but we never tell them they can’t give them as if it’s not their place.

It’s ALL our place. WE the People rule and lead this country, so we will not be told what we should and shouldn’t do. That’s a tactic the captured leftist media uses.

Matt L.'s avatar

Let me connect a dot nobody, including Jeff talks about. All of the destabilization of Arab countries by Western powers has resulted in chaos in those lands. And massive Sharia-loving refugees fleeing for the EU and USA. I’m not saying the attack on Iran is incorrect. I’m just saying there are consequences that can be negative, long term. I hope the coming civil war in Iran goes quickly, and we don’t have a large amount of Iranians looking to settle in the West like we saw w/ Libya, Somalia, Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq. Dots, indeed.

Concerned mom's avatar

so why did they bomb several Dubai hotels? airplanes taking off from there also???

Matt L.'s avatar

You reply as though I am defending Iran. I’m not. I’m a completely rational thinker is all. If the USA were attacked, we’d hit back. That’s what Iran did.

Phil Denter's avatar

What? Do you not think that there'd be video of people dancing on any street in any country after the leader got popped? Simple statistics coupled with video cameras everywhere, Mary.

FYI - The percentage of Iranian dancers is minuscule.

Daniel Agius SR's avatar

WOW Where did you get that thread? Sounds like some OLD NYT article from a few decades ago. He is/WAS the big “Death to America” cheerleader! Moderate? 🤣😂🤨😂🤣😂🤨

CMCM's avatar

It doesn't sound like you have read about Khamenei's 37 years of killing his own people. You consider that "moderate"? He's not evil? As for the "fooling" part, America and the world's feckless "leaders" have been repeatedly fooled by the Iranian "negotiate and delay" tactics for the past 47 years. They laugh behind our backs.

M. Dowrick's avatar

I guess you don’t know about all the whistleblowers killed over the yrs in the USA?

Maha's avatar

You mean victims of the Clintons? Yeah, I'd buy the Clintons and the Ayatollah are destined for the same chamber in Hell.

CMCM's avatar

So you are equating the two situations?

Lori's avatar

Even if that were true that he was a moderate, he was oppressive to women and allowed chants of death to America. He would not hear his people and welcome democracy and equal rights. If he were moderate and open minded, he would have entered into talks within 10 days and made a solution with Trump. He FAFOED. His mistake.

Elaine H's avatar

If he was a moderate, why were the women of Iran treated like second class citizens? Have you not seen how the women were 47 years ago?

CMCM's avatar

Women aren't even treated like second class citizens. Here's an example: The Koran says not to kill a virgin for whatever the offense. So they rape the woman first, and then it's OK to kill her. Nice religion!

KK's avatar

Says someone who has no idea what the Iranians have lived with. An unelected government must not kill, maim and torture its citizens to subdue them, while the true King and Queen are in exile. Someone had to do something. It could happen here and who would help us???

Juju's avatar
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If it happened here the democrats would be in complete support of it and what would that make the rest of the world believe about our country as a whole?

Yes, there are democrat equivalents in Iran mourning Khameni’s death because they were indoctrinated and groomed just like people were in our country. But facts of past actions by that government don’t lie. Hanging young girls after raping them and claiming they caused infidelity because you had to rape them? Throwing acid in their faces for showing their heads? Killing thousands of protestors who dared speak out about the government?

There’s a boatload more of things like that. Anyone calling that vile regime “moderate” is a danger to our own country.

M. Dowrick's avatar

A danger to our own country?

M. Dowrick's avatar

Anyone seen the photo of the son of the shah of Iran, kisding the wailing wall? Look it up.

kittynana's avatar

@Sylvia- moderate? MODERATE??? Where in God's name do you get your information?? I remember the fall of Iran in 1979. He was no freaking moderate.

Kenpowoman's avatar

Apparently Sylvia has not been reading the C&C Newsletter very long.

Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Sylvia - you have bought into the false belief that Israel was behind this. Nonsense, Trump is the decision-maker here, and he is doing what needed to be done to liberate the Iranian people from the tyranny of the muslim regime that was installed and supported by the deep state CIA, and funded by Obama. Trump is ending that crap. There, and everywhere.

Maha's avatar

Haven't you heard, Dave? Israel is the bad guy. Repeat that until you too are completely brainwashed. And then say, "the Ayatollah's were peacekeepers."

Cynthia's avatar

Good grief. Israel did not "lead us" into this war. Trump is the just first president in 47 years to have the cojones to tackle this murderous regime that has killed Americans and shouted "Death to America" for decades. Khamenei was the definition of evil. Just ask the citizens of Iran.

gettinolder's avatar

Typical mini mullah today on substack calling the female half of humanity COWS that should be treated as such. This is what happens in a theocracy as they use brutal force and righteous translations about what Allah wants. Moderate my ass 🦨🐀 Free the Iranian people.

Dianna b's avatar

Do you understand anything about history.....

Maha's avatar

Yes, thanks to Israel and Trump, you are mourning the death of one of the worst leaders in modern times. All the Ayatollahs should be run out of Persia. (Let's start calling it Persia again. Iran will hopefully be as dead as the supreme leader.)

Janine Melnitz's avatar

It is true that Khamenei was the one preventing the building of nuclear weapons due to his Fatwa. There were many in his gov that were upset with this stance. Now that he has been killed along with his family, how pissed do you think his next in line is? They have all the stuff to build a nuclear bomb and likely will. I think Trump was sold a bill of goods that if he killed Khamenei the regime would just collapse. I think far from it.

Juju's avatar

Truly can’t wait for people like you to eat crow. I wonder if you will have equal courage to admit you were wrong when the time comes as you have to protest against the sitting president doing good things for the world?

Janine Melnitz's avatar

I have been a very strong Trump supporter and would love to be wrong and will admit it if I am. Don't be a dick. Right now he has just admitted he is thinking of putting ground troops into action. So when this turns into a giant quagmire of shit will you start eating crow?

Juju's avatar

Yes. Yes I will. It doesn’t scare me to do so.

But at least I choose to defend my country and my president while IN the fight until it is over. In that way it is not me that is being the dick.

Janine Melnitz's avatar

I am a true American patriot. I was in the Navy for 27 years. But when my president does something incredibly dumb, I believe Trump needs to hear about it. I am appalled at the thought of AMERICANS being killed over a futile war.

S.P.H.'s avatar

The next in line keeps getting shorter, Janine.

The Persian people have longed for freedom for decades. They were forced into islam, the only way Islam can grow. This is their one chance at a free society, just as Venezuelans now have a chance to regain their autonomy. Perhaps Cuba will be next to once again become a free society.

Whether we are seeing the historical pendulum swinging back, the circle being completed or whatever term you wish to apply, democracy and freedom are in vogue with a leader for freedom in our Whitehouse. This is a threat to deep state tyrants around the world and they are not happy.

Maha's avatar

They won't have "the stuff" for long. Unless another Democrat gets in the White House.

Uncle Juan's avatar

Trump was sold a bill of goods by Israel, Graham and others… I pray he comes to his senses.

And according to Ritter, very few Iranians support this son of the Shah…

Concerned mom's avatar

Where, please enlighten us, are you gathering your intel from? Did we all ignoramuses miss the briefing?

Uncle Juan's avatar

His replacement is pro nuclear weapons…

kittynana's avatar

@Juan- he hasn't been replaced yet

Uncle Juan's avatar

You know this? I have seen other sources…

Juju's avatar
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He hasn’t. Each replacement has been taken out. I think they are on the 3rd or 4th right now, and it’s the regime that is placing the next in power from their numbers, not the Iranians.

Maha's avatar

He won't last long.

Concerned mom's avatar

His replacement(s) already have targets on!

John of Oregon Fame's avatar

Sylvia, I question where you are getting your informatkon.

Lisa Gonsalves's avatar

I have a video of a public park taken in Teheran last May with innumerable college age kids looking as western as you can imagine. Happy and playing games like juggling and dancing etc.

no covered women. No suppression. Perfectly happy young people.

It was posted on Facebook by someone my husband knows. Who was THERE.

CMCM's avatar
3hEdited

I worked in Iran and witnessed the overthrow of the Shah. I also have quite a few Iranian friends both still in Iran and outside of it. I hear different stories. Women do "buck the system" when they think they can get away with it. I suggest you read this story, and in fact, EVERYONE should read this story just to be informed about what has been happening to women in Iran for 47 years: https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/23/opinions/mahsa-amini-iran-protests-hair-women-nemat

Bard Joseph's avatar

“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites. You are like whitewashed tombs, which appear beautiful on the outside, but inside are full of dead men’s bones and every kind of filth."

Matthew 26,27

Lori's avatar

Yes, sounds just like the democrats!

Lori's avatar

Bard, that is not the passage in Matthew 26 verse 27.

John Sutton's avatar

This quote IS from Matthew 23:27-28 (ESV), a direct, harsh rebuke from Jesus to religious leaders, condemning them as hypocrites who appear righteous outwardly but are inwardly filled with corruption, hypocrisy, and lawlessness.

CMCM's avatar

Imagine what Jesus would say about the late Ayatollah Khamenei!

CL Shoemake's avatar

I cannot read Proverbs 24:11 & 12 without thinking of the unborn. Obviously it applies to much more as well. Love Proverbs & the Psalms.

Margot Wooster's avatar

CL, yes it very much applies to babies in the womb. Hard to believe it is legal in the US to murder preborn babies. I heard there are more abortions now, with the pills, than before Roe v Wade was overturned.

CMCM's avatar

I saw a funny clip from a guy who goes around catching leftists in their hypocrisy. In one segment he went to a house that had pro choice signs in the yard. He pretended to be working for an animal welfare group and at first she was enthusiastic, but when he said he was collecting money for the euthanasia of all the unwanted puppies, the woman went ballistic about the idea of killing puppies. Then he asked her if abortion wasn't the same thing, and she wouldn't answer and asked him to leave.

RunningLogic's avatar

I saw that one too! 🤣😆

Lisa Ca's avatar

Margot I’m not sure that is true but I definitely believe that the pills made it far easier for a woman to abort. 😭

Frank's avatar

Mr. Childers: Do you think that khamenei's death will make him a martyr for years

Graphite's avatar

No! Persians will finally be able to talk freely about the suffering and abuse that he instigated! He will be a pariah!

TriTorch's avatar

"As you know, we attacked Iran early Saturday morning"

We?

Jeff, I attacked nobody...

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Please, literalism is not helpful. You know very well that the plural "we" refers to the nation and not you personally.

Fla Mom's avatar

Make Basic Grammar Great Again.

Torrance Stephens's avatar

Ditto. Would like your thoughts on this. https://shorturl.at/1aCoS

Willing Spirit's avatar

The whole Trans’ movement is definitely due to demonic influence/mental illness.

Silent scorn's avatar

I read this article over the weekend. It’s really good work, thank you.

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Indeed, it is a mental illness. The result, I have suspected for a while now, of the feminist movement, the one that said women can be more like men and are equal to men in nearly every regard. That kicked it off. Feminists then began hating men and turning out sons who have been feminized. So it shouldn't surprise us that there are men who fantasize themselves as women. It's a different problem when it comes to children being "trans-ed." I blame AWFL moms, the medical profession, Big Pharma, and critical theory which has seeped into elementary schools. The whole thing is a social contagion as well as a huge money maker.

Bard Joseph's avatar

The Nation has been dead since JFK murder.

Vote harder.

Abiding Dude's avatar

Nope, Snarky... he's right.

80% of merica was AGAINST Trump's lunatic attack on Iran (to serve ONLY teh zio-filth of Israel.

MJB's avatar

I had the exact same thought. Jeff, your unflagging support for Trump gets to be a bit much. Please do not confuse ‘the American people’ with ‘Trump’. Very few of us support this utterly illegal attack on a country that has done nothing to us. Oh, the Ayatollah is ‘one of the most evil people on earth’? First of all, that’s the opinion pushed by the mainstream wh*re media at the direction of this administration and therefore somewhat biased, to put it mildly. Secondly, the guy IS IN IRAN. If there is a problem with him, it’s Iran’s problem! Thirdly, the Ayatollah is much like the pope: take out the pope and nothing happens to the Vatican or the world - they just appoint a new pope. Iran just appoints a new Ayatollah. He’s a spiritual leader only. Stop being so ignorant of what Iran is actually like. Oh, and I notice you totally failed to mention schools being bombed and utterly innocent girls being killed in Iran. Inexcusable. No, let’s rephrase that: as evil as you accuse the Ayatollah of being. But once again, I guess it’s totally okay if Israel does it.

Benjamin Two N's's avatar

It's everyones' problem.

The Mullahs have been killing Americans for decades.

The Ayatollah bathed in the blood of Americans and other westerners and Israelis. He got what he deserved.

Jeff C's avatar

First comment I've ever liked by Benjamin.

I'm against this war but if anyone deserved to die it's Khameini. This "killing the Pope during Lent" stuff is such low-IQ propaganda it's hard to believe people even say it.

Laura Garcia's avatar

Deserving to die….and the US doing the deed with Israel and the way it was done are two different things….are they not?

Willing Spirit's avatar

You’re here at your master’s bidding to attack Israel. Got it.

Laura Garcia's avatar

Seriously, not even sure what you mean by that or how you took that away from my comment?!

Torrance Stephens's avatar

Never woulda thunk i’d see any Americans defending Iranian Mullahs. WTF? This is like the Twilight zone.

CMCM's avatar

Sadly, they defend mindlessly and out of near total historical ignorance.

Torrance Stephens's avatar

💯 did you see what I wrote on all this trans violence? https://shorturl.at/1aCoS

Alice Ball's avatar

I could not agree more Torrance. They took vulnerable people and taught them crap like transgender and now we have thousands of kids-young adults who will never be normal due to either disfiguring surgery or hormonal destruction through meds, or both. All of those doctors and counselors who participated in this belong in jail.

shibumi's avatar

Many Americans are tired of the middle eastern adventures of our military. How many millions of dollars did we spend over 20 years to replace the Taliban with the Taliban?

Willing Spirit's avatar

What part of Trump isn’t Bush, Obama or Biden do you not understand? Try deepening your thought processes and his store of knowledge.

Lisa Ca's avatar

Exactly! There is a short purpose to this! NOT a forever war! Wake up people!

Eruca Sativa's avatar

Except it's looking more and more like he actually IS.

Jack Bergeron's avatar

Many, if not most, of the Americans killed were soldiers in foreign bases, places we never should have sent troops. I had hoped when Trump became President he would have brought all our troops home and ended our meddling in other countries’ internal affairs.

dancingtime's avatar

Oh please....spare us your lack of knowledge regarding what has been going on in Iran...and why the rest of the Middle East regards Iran as an enemy....

Jack Bergeron's avatar

What goes on Iran may be in our eyes considered barbaric and atrocious; maybe not so for the people who live there. It is up to the people of Iran to deal with and change the conditions there. Europeans and Asians have fought amongst themselves not just for centuries, but for millennia. We are fools to believe there’s anything we can do to end it.

william howard's avatar

not to mention the 100,000 or so Iranians killed

Bard Joseph's avatar

But he pushed the Trotskyites clot shot that bathed in blood.

Texasdon's avatar

Name the Americans they have killed? Did they attack an American ship like Israel did to the USS Liberty and kill numerous sailors of ours??

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Wow. Maybe read up on the history of Iran going back to at least 1953? This is NOT Iran's problem, the Ayatollah and his government made themselves international criminals. But maybe you prefer it that way.

Bard Joseph's avatar

He was put there by the CIA.

Probably hanging now with Epstein.

Never charged by the International Criminal Court for Genocide.

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

I'm aware of our sordid history regarding Iran, from Mossedegh's toppling. We created a monster. Trump is destroying the monster we created. It's hard but I see no other choice than what Trump chose. The Iranian people can then take back what they had when they elected Mossedegh: a modern, secular society.

Cousin Clem's avatar

They can if we don't appoint the guy to run the new Iran. But somehow, I think a person was already selected(by the US) and waiting in the wings to be their new leader. We'll have to wait and see what happens.

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

If Venezuela is any guide, Trump will tread lightly when it comes to how things will proceed in Iran after the surrender. If I were he, I would use our treatment of the Confederacy and Bush's handling of Iraq as examples of what to do and not do with the former regime.

Johnny-O's avatar

Why? What has/is Iran doing directly to us that is such a threat, that leaves us with nothing else to do? Are you believing the 30 year old claim that they are "days away" from obtaining a nuclear weapon?

Khemani, not a great person, but he did issue a fatwah and said repeatedly they do not seek a weapon. His current interm successor does want them to have nuclear weapons. Did the neocon idiots in washington that Trump is unfortunately listening to not see this coming?

Duckduffer's avatar

Yes, Khemani would never lie to advance the jihad...good luck with that line of thinking...

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

So of course, Iran would not make a nuclear weapon particularly if if were enriching uranium to nuclear bomb specs AND doing it deep underground, right? I wish I had thought of that as a defense for being sure that Iran was telling the truth, something that governments always do.

Richard Whitney's avatar

It is a 47 year claim, actually. The CSM put out a timeline back when Obama was pushing the same lie in 2011.

https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2011/1108/Imminent-Iran-nuclear-threat-A-timeline-of-warnings-since-1979/Earliest-warnings-1979-84

Mrs. RW

Maha's avatar

Do you remember when the nuclear facilities were bombed Khomani taunted Trump and said he was too cowardly, or something to that effect, to have not killed him(Khomani)?

william howard's avatar

his disguised anti-Israel shows through loud & clear - no doubt a big fan of Tucker

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Ugh, Tucker. {And Candace.}

Abiding Dude's avatar

Uninformed, low-info... low-IQ comment.

Shush.

Susan Seas's avatar

The Iranian people are being freed from a horrific regime. I guess you don’t like that. They are happy and grateful.

Johnny-O's avatar

No they aren't. The regime is still there, still in power. You guys are being fed war propaganda.

Willing Spirit's avatar

Go suck a Lemon loser. Why on earth do you hang out here, given your obsessive TDS? You need to feed that demon daily?

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2026/03/massive-pro-usa-demonstration-los-angeles-after-us/

Abiding Dude's avatar

Uninformed, low-info... low-IQ comment.

Shush.

Susan Seas's avatar

Whatever. I served in the military overseas, did you? I happen to have some insight.

Fla Mom's avatar

Au contraire, sweetie - don't think your friend group represents the whole country. This has been a *very* long time coming, and I for one thoroughly welcome it as a necessary evil to achieve the conditions necessary for peace to prevail in much of the world. It's also, as Jeff and others have pointed out, part of a grand strategy to address other important geopolitical problems.

Delightful Designs's avatar

I agree, I was happy to see it finally being done. LOTS of people are pleased. I'm old enough to remember the first wave of Iranians coming in in 1979, the ones who could afford to run. The stories they told about what they had seen were very public for a long time, then just sort of faded out. Some of us remember how long this mess has been festering, and are glad this boil is being lanced.

Maureen ODH's avatar

Yes… Delightful D… and if you don’t remember… tune into PBD Patrick Bet David podcasts… PBD often discusses his family’s flight from Iran… if anyone has a legitimate right to comment on the current long festering Iranian global issues, it’s PBD and crew…

william howard's avatar

actually ending a 47 year war which former Presidents have either not participated in or were supporting Iran

RunningLogic's avatar

Also they’re completely dismissing the lived experiences of the Iranians who have suffered so greatly under this evil despotic regime.

Craig Andersen's avatar

You do 'remember ' don't you, that the Shaw of Iran's secret police force was one of the most terrorizing on the planet don't you?!!!

RunningLogic's avatar

These people are hundreds of times worse! And that is a spurious argument to me. The Shah (not Shaw) may have been despotic. Does that mean we can’t call out the current regime’s abuses? Particularly when the majority of the Iranian people themselves keep saying how much worse it is under the Islamic “republic”. We can’t go back and change our reaction to the Shah, we can only deal with the situation here and now.

kittynana's avatar

@Craig- Shah* And yes, he was also vicious. But the Iranians were in a much better position at that time.

Maha's avatar

Who was the Shah being vicious against? Ordinary women not wearing Burkas? No. Vicious communist funded Islamists who wanted to push Sharia law and dominate Iran? Yes.

You might want to start paying attention to current events in the US, because it's repeating here. Look at Mandami. Look at Omar. Leftists merging with Islamists.

shibumi's avatar

Why is it the reponsiblity of the US to free the Iranian people? Why does the West need to be concerned with this? If it is our problem, why did we not go in with a "coalition of the willing?" Why did Trump choose not to go to Congress for authorization?

RunningLogic's avatar

Seriously? You truly think involving Congress and our “allies” would have improved this operation? They would have completely messed it up. Based on past experiences, would have been leaks, demands that would hamstring effective action, and all kinds of other issues.

The Iranian people have been begging us to help them. Other Middle Eastern countries want the destabilizing influence of Iran taken away. Much as we might want to live in isolation, that’s not the world we live in today. Current inaction is more likely to result in being obliged to get caught up in the situation in the future only not on our terms. I think we have a better chance of being less involved in world conflicts later if we take action now than to wait until we’re dragged into it.

Duckduffer's avatar

The President provided 48 hours notice to congress and guess what...there were protests in place 10 minutes before the strikes initiated...the Dems are truly exhausting

Maha's avatar

Leaks for certain. The Islamists in Congress would have gotten the word out to the Iranian government.

Abiding Dude's avatar

There was ZERO imminent threat from Iran... so Trump violated the Constitution by attacking Iran, as usual, ONLY for Israel.

80% of Americans were AGAINST the attacks.

He is already a solid WAR CRIMINAL for his unprovoked bombings of Yemen and Iran, leta lone his funding of Israel's mass-slaughter in Gaza.

Juju's avatar

When your government has been infiltrated by Muslims and Iranian regime supporters, China allies, Cartel allies, etc., and you know they are compromised, you use the written laws to side step their sabotaging tendencies first. He has 48 hours to inform them, he properly informed the committee of eight before the attack, and he will have 60 days to wrap it up if Congress blocks further action. Unfortunately NONE of the other presidents had to do that with lesser threats and they used wayyyy more bombs and killed innocent civilians without even trying to avoid it. Nobody screeched “but Congress!” when Obama, Bush, or Biden used these powers. This is SOLELY because they hate Trump and he is dismantling their financially advantageous playground and world powers. This administration followed the law. The president does NOT need Congressional permission or approval before any and all military use, but he does have to follow a process, and cannot declare a War without their approval after a certain amount of time. Trump IS following the laws/constitution. They just want you to believe he isn’t.

FA's avatar

Peace looks like Iran joins the central banking? That’s what this is about.

Maha's avatar

No. The undercurrent is geopolitical strategy as a bonus. Iran's oil sales to China may be in jeopardy now.

Abiding Dude's avatar

Uninformed, low-info... low-IQ comment.

Shush.

John Wiles's avatar

Anybody on this newsletter who doesn't get the BIG picture needs to continue reading but stop making comments. You are definitely not understanding what is going on in the grand scheme of things.

william howard's avatar

or go back to Mother Jones

Willing Spirit's avatar

Unfortunately ignorance never seems to impede losers.

Cousin Clem's avatar

What is the grand scheme?

Jake's avatar

The War against China's dominance. One by one the Trumpster is taking out their partners in international crime. Iran is one battle, not the war.

Patricia Woodard's avatar

So many can't see the forrest for the trees.

shibumi's avatar

So, we kneecap China and... what happens to all the manufacturing that benefits the US that is done there? How about all of the pharmaceuticals that are manufactured there?

Willing Spirit's avatar

Oh my! Oh no! We’d be doomed!

Give me a break

Maha's avatar

China is not being taken out economically. They are being constrained somewhat. And they certainly won't cut off a major trading partner with their cash flow issues. This is Trump's strategy. Peace through strength and economic ties.

Juju's avatar

We bring it home where it needs to be. 🙄

Jane Foster's avatar

What bullshit. The attack was not illegal. The commander-in-chief clause (Article II of The Constitution) gives the president the power to use armed forces when the president perceives a threat to national security or American interests.

Iran has done nothing to us? Please. On November 4, 1979, Iran took 66 Americans hostage at the Embassy of the United States in Tehran. Fifty-two of those Americans were held prisoner in Iran for 444 days. Iran has been a sponsor of terrorism aimed at America and other countries for decades. Iran has been governed by fanatical Islamists intent on destroying America, and it has been trying to build nuclear weapons to accomplish that goal. Radical Islam IS evil.

The US is not a pawn of Israel, and Israel is not an apartheid state. Jesus was a Jew. Christianity sprang from Judaism. Our society is based on Judeo-Christian principles. Antisemitism is a mental illness, and it is unChristian.

It has not been confirmed that the school was destroyed by Israel or the United States. It is quite possible that an Iranian missile went astray and hit the school—it has happened before. It also seems likely that the school's proximity to an IRCG location was not accidental, just as Hamas placed its tunnels and missiles underneath hospitals and then blamed Israel if the hospitals got hit.

You are the one who is biased, and ignorant.

Torrance Stephens's avatar

Some folks are incapable of reason. They just will not get it

kittynana's avatar

@Torrence- you mean they REFUSE to get it. Willful ignorance has no place in my life.

Torrance Stephens's avatar

You tell no lies. You should drive by my stack one day.

pretty-red, old guy's avatar

PERFECT response Jane.

I would like to humbly second that one, if I may.

Juju's avatar

Great response actually! I admire her succinctness and getting to all the points. I’m over here spittling and sputtering trying to remember all the important facts and flailing. 🤣

Thank you Jane!!!

Abiding Dude's avatar

Nah, it is YOU that's full of bullshit, Fatso...

There was ZERO imminent threat from Iran... so Trump violated the Constitution by attacking Iran, as usual, ONLY for Israel.

80% of Americans were AGAINST the attacks.

He is already a solid WAR CRIMINAL for his unprovoked bombings of Yemen and Iran, let alone his funding of Israel's mass-slaughter in Gaza.

Jane Foster's avatar

Fatso? LOL. I would reply to you but it would be a waste of time. You are a loser, and an ignorant one.

Susan Seas's avatar

It is quite clear. You’ve never heard any of the words from the people who have fled from Iran. There’s 100s of videos on TikTok and X and everywhere else you look, ask some of the Iranian women how they feel.

RunningLogic's avatar

Yes, I’ve watched many of these video clips from all kinds of different places and there is a very consistent theme. I’ve also talked to Iranian expats and they have said very similar things. I am more inclined to believe *them* than Iranian State propaganda, personally.

St. Alia the Knife's avatar

A lady from my women's Bible study group is from Iran and still has family there. We have been praying with her for Iran since the protests broke out; she had information from her contacts inside Iran that the situation was worse than the media was reporting. Shocking, I know! She texted us early Saturday morning, absolutely jubilant that the U.S. had started bombing military sites. She said that people were celebrating everywhere, and soon the news was showing people celebrating all over the world. What is that canard about "believing someone's "lived experience"? I am far more likely to believe the people who have lived under these regimes (Iran, Venezuela, etc.) than what the talking heads think they know about the situation.

Mrs. "the Knife"

P.S. Weird side note: I tried to pull up the text she sent us, and it has disappeared from my messages. I did not delete it, it is just gone.

RunningLogic's avatar

Yes that is what my sources are saying too. I agree, let’s believe the people who have suffered under this regime, the women imprisoned and violated and disfigured by the secret police and the families whose men and women were killed and tortured. Not our stupid media hacks and all of the people pontificating from the safety of their living rooms.

To the isolationists I say, this is also a kind of atonement for our previous governments enabling the murderous regime (looking at you Obama, especially!!) as well as akin in my mind of being Daniel Penny rather than the subway riders who elected to keep their heads down.

Graphite's avatar

Thanks for sharing... I pray God will bless your friend and her family 🙏

Abiding Dude's avatar

But you seem to LOVE jewish propaganda... like Iran being 2 weeks away from building a nuke... since 1996!

Our media is owned/run by jews... time to wake up.

Abiding Dude's avatar

America is not the Policeman of the world.

What they ARE, currently, is Israel" puppet... the AIPAC and Elstein corruption of our politicians, especially Orange Caligula, is appalling.

Yes, Dems are scum.

Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Who bombed the school?

It's more likely the iranians did it themselves via one of their malfunctioning missiles.

Beckadee's avatar

I heard one of Iran's missiles misfired.

Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Iran is busy dragging up all of the fragments of US drones and missiles to scatter all over the site, it's taking time.

MJB's avatar

Wow, that’s a level of propaganda i find quite breathtaking.

Johnny-O's avatar

In the fog of war, we will "hear" a lot of things. And "see" a lot of things - AI is going to make this even harder to decipher truth.

pretty-red, old guy's avatar

Hey Johnny, read "St. Alia the Knife's" post and wake up, man.

Delightful Designs's avatar

That's what I heard too.

CMCM's avatar
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I agree. Their missiles haven't exactly been models of precision. Given how the regime has murdered tens of thousands of its own citizens including the elderly, women, and children over the years, they wouldn't give blowing up a girls' school of a single moment's of regret if they believed it would create bad optics for the enemy.

RunningLogic's avatar

Right?? Their hypocrisy in crying about those “poor girls” is making me roll my eyes so hard 🙄🙄🙄

Justin's avatar

Or they did it themselves to enflame anti-American sentiment.

Bard Joseph's avatar

Like sinking the Liberty?

Justin's avatar

Could be the CIA trying to enflame anti-American sentiment too.

Delightful Designs's avatar

It's a good false flag if they did

Mary H.'s avatar
4hEdited

“In war, truth is the first casualty.”

— Aeschylus

Question everything

Synickel's avatar

Wow, that's really reaching for it.

MJB's avatar
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one of them was a girls’ elementary school in Minab, Iran, hit in the initial US-Israeli strike. This was actually confirmed by the US.

Elaine's avatar

It has come out that an Iranian missile misfired. The US did not, accidentally or on purpose strike a school.

RunningLogic's avatar

It apparently isn’t clear what really happened. I found this to be an interesting analysis that seemed to look at all of the current evidence. There is some question of who was actually killed and if there were indeed children there also (some photos appear to be AI generated according to this person, which wouldn’t surprise me as the school bombing claim is an effective propaganda tool as we have been seeing).

https://honestreporting.com/iran-says-and-the-media-repeats-from-regime-claim-to-viral-headline/

Beckadee's avatar

I had heard that about the IRCG locating in or next to the school. So typical. Also heard that political prisoners were moved to IRCG locations.

Beckadee's avatar

Provide the source on that confirmation please because I haven't seen it.

pretty-red, old guy's avatar

SO, MJB, you may not realize this but PERFECT, precision strikes ALL going down the 8ft diameter air shafts of nuclear caves is not going to happen on EVERY, single damn warhead. This is war. The USA is NOT perfect. but, moreso, can we actually believe the Iranian media that X little girls are dead or should we take that with some grain of salt and figure the Iranians used plastic explosives themselves on an empty building? Come on.

Think clearly. USE that God-given gift of discernment, please.

Janine Melnitz's avatar

Isreal was trying to bomb a military site but hit a girls school

The Great Resist's avatar

According to the Iranian media. Good source. 🙄

Graphite's avatar

Haha 🤣😅🤪 - and you'd think s bot could spell Israel 🇮🇱 correctly 🙄 perhaps it's a 'disguise tactic' trying to pretend they are actually a dumb lefty human 🤣

Mary Sholl's avatar

Ignorance is truly bliss. Have a nice day in your stupidity.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

the iranian people would disagree with you. why are they dancing in the streets?

why did the theocrats kill 30,000 protestors?

Dena's avatar

Some seem to have more sympathy for the “supreme leader’s” death than for the thousands of citizens he ordered killed by his thug military. And the carnage created by the terrorist groups he funded & controlled for decades? . It reminds me of Americans who care more for the illegal aliens than the American victims they raped & murdered. It’s a tangled web for sure as some past & still alive Presidents provided support & crates of money to the Iranian regime. Americans have been deceived by our own country many times, but Trump is the only president in recent history to actually have the courage to follow through on his promises, one being Iran must not have nuclear weapons.

Beckadee's avatar

Trump is definitely not a can kicker! That's why I support him.

Abiding Dude's avatar

The Iranians in the streets are screaming 'Death to America and Israel'. The "protests" were against high prices from US sanctions, and the 30K number is bullshit. Mike Pompeo, Varsity scumbag, admitted that Mossad and the CIA were all over that "protest".

You are buying into bullshit. Do better. This might help:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLzdS-xAKh4&t=61s

Ryan Gardner's avatar

We just have to agree to disagree. I think its ridiculous you called me vile after I agree with you on just about everything in the last 5 years

Jeff C's avatar
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You start with a sound premise (the American people don't support this as polling shows) but then get completely derailed with phony left-wing talking points.

One can make a very sound argument that this is against the best interests of the US, does nothing to help American citizens, puts a foreign country's interests over Americas, and is a betrayal of Trump's campaign promises. Everyone of of those points is solid and more than enough to object to this.

But when you start with this "akin to killing the Pope during Lent" nonsense your true colors show. Khameini is a reprehensible butcher who long ago signed his own death warrant with his brutal actions. You don't care about Khameini, it's just a cheap talking point you read on a left-wing website somewhere. Really low IQ stuff meant to appeal to boobs who can't think for themselves.

Juju's avatar
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It’s not a betrayal of Trump’s campaign promises at all, but that’s definitely worthy of debating among friends because I can see how it can be perceived as such.

Here’s my take:

This wasn’t about Israel or really much else other than the Iranian people, those brave souls inside the country and the millions scattered across the globe, from Tehran to Los Angeles, who have prayed for this day.

When dictators butcher the innocent, when the world turns away in cowardice, someone has to grow a spine and say, "Not on my watch."

That someone was Donald Trump, and he delivered.

This isn’t Trump’s war.

This is forty-five years of American presidents refusing to finish a war that already started and one president finally deciding that it’s time for it to end. Ending any war is messy.

This is also probably about a deeper strategy regarding China, and THAT is very much in the interests of the American people and our safety, security, and prosperity. Very few of us have the macro view of ALL the issues on the game board that have to be considered at the exact same time the way the administration has.

Trump stated at absolutely EVERY rally he would bomb Iran without hesitation if ever that became necessary. He said he would try for diplomacy, and after over a year we see that you really can’t negotiate with evil dictators and terrorists.

He said at EVERY rally he did not want “forever” wars anymore. He never promised he wouldn’t use our troops. He did promise that if we ever had to go to war he would do everything in his power to make it quick, precise, purposeful, and powerful.

He broke no promises. He’s doing exactly what he said he would do the way he said he would do it.

Our nation is like an abused animal after our past administrations. Every time Trump raises his hand to smooth his hair we flinch as if it’s a sign we are about to be hit. That is not his fault.

Give him time to fix the mess past leaders have made in our country, and maybe we won’t have to flinch anymore.

Alice Ball's avatar

100 likes Juju! Plus, I think it's clear part of his strategy is to cut off China's oil supply since Venezuela & Iran supplied a lot of it. W/o oil, China's options re Taiwan shrink. Trump is playing 4D chess.

Juju's avatar

Yes it’s a very possible scenario worth considering. We won’t know until sometime in the future, however, as we aren’t in his cabinet meetings. Over the past year he’s given me more than enough reasons to trust them and their decisions.

Sure we could all revolt and stop them, but what if we are wrong? Then what? No conservative protesting stops to think of the ramifications of interfering simply because “we don’t trust him.” We need a LOT more than that before we interfere.

Kim's avatar

Excellent! Here is some more background information: https://www.rodmartin.org/p/is-trumps-iran-strike-constitutional?

pretty-red, old guy's avatar

Fantastic and Intelligent Post JuJu. . . and, I hope it will warm you knowing that my wife has enjoyed her foamed-milk topped coffee each morning since you taught me that "foamers" exist . . . Cheers to YOU!

Juju's avatar
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Ha! Excellent! 🤣 I need mine so badly I bring it with me even when I travel and place all my additive goodies in individual baggies for each morning’s Joe. Hee hee ❤️ I get interesting looks at the gas station stops. Lol

RunningLogic's avatar

Very well said!!

MJB's avatar
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Wow! Let’s have some name calling, why don’t we. Always the answer of people who don’t have answers. I’m not left wing, quite the contrary. I’m not defending Khameini in any way, shape or form. I know nothing about the guy. You know why I know nothing about the guy? Because I’m not in Iran so I don’t have firsthand information and I utterly mistrust anything I see in the media. So I guess you’ve totally missed my point, which was: this is not America’s problem. We’re sending in American troops to die in a country where we have absolutely no business being. How hard is that to understand? I guess the majority of Americans totally get it, which is why very few support this insanity.

CMCM's avatar
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You say: " I know nothing about the guy. You know why I know nothing about the guy? Because I’m not in Iran so I don’t have firsthand information and I utterly mistrust anything I see in the media. "

Then don't weigh in. I lived in Iran for two years during the overthrow of the Shah. I know how it used to be, and I know how it is now. I still have a lot of Iranian friends, many of whom have suffered greatly over the years. I believe the horrors they have told me over the years because they have been experiencing it. I also know how deliriously happy they are today at the removal of the monster who had boots on their necks for decades. Based on what I actually know rather than merely believing pap from an ignorant or partisan press, the removal of Khamenai and as many of his cronies as possible is the greatest thing ever to happen to the great country of Iran. The Iranians have been prisoners for 47 years. Try to imagine that. Now Iran finally has been given a chance to become a normal member of the world's sane nations again. This is thanks to Trump, and no thanks to his feckless and fearful predecessors who allowed this to continue for so long.

RunningLogic's avatar

THANK YOU!! Excellent comment! I have never lived there but have had enough interactions with Iranians to feel sure of what you said—that the regime was and is terrorizing the Iranian people. It’s kind of hilarious to me that someone who admits to knowing nothing about Khamenei has the audacity to express an opinion about him and his thug regime 🙄

pretty-red, old guy's avatar

CMCM, I don't think a more perfect post to MJB's comment could have been made. Excellent, from the heart, not insulting, and REAL experience and discernment witnessing to a naive poster.

You get five stars.

KC & the Sunshine's avatar

Everybody I know wholeheartedly supports us almost surgically removing the head of this snake and then handing over the reins to Iran to foster their hopefully budding democracy.

You may like finding last night’s 60 Minutes wherein the former king of Iran’s son is considering taking over. It’s quite enlightening.

Johnny-O's avatar

Whoever controls Iran's military will control the outcome, and currently, the government is in control of the military.

KC & the Sunshine's avatar

Two things to consider:

The military may be just as miserable and well able to see how horrific the previous 47 years have been. They may want a democracy/republic as badly as the throng of people in the streets.

If they continue to get a paycheck even though they break with the old and embrace the new, they may be delighted with the death of that monster.

I imagine Trump/Hedgeseth/Rubio or the powers that be already have a plan(s) in place for this very situation. They have proven themselves to be a force to be reckoned with thus far. I have to believe that with all their brain power and so on, they have it scattered, smothered and covered.

Also, the 60 Minutes episode with Prince Pahlavi last night was really good. It’s well worth digging around to watch it. He said all the right things and seems to have all the right goals.

pretty-red, old guy's avatar

Please, Please. . . read CMCM's post above. . . well . . . HERE!

You say: " I know nothing about the guy. You know why I know nothing about the guy? Because I’m not in Iran so I don’t have firsthand information and I utterly mistrust anything I see in the media. "

Then don't weigh in. I lived in Iran for two years during the overthrow of the Shah. I know how it used to be, and I know how it is now. I still have a lot of Iranian friends, many of whom have suffered greatly over the years. I believe the horrors they have told me over the years because they have been experiencing it. I also know how deliriously happy they are today at the removal of the monster who had boots on their necks for decades. Based on what I actually know rather than merely believing pap from an ignorant or partisan press, the removal of Khamenai and as many of his cronies as possible is the greatest thing ever to happen to the great country of Iran. The Iranians have been prisoners for 47 years. Try to imagine that. Now Iran finally has been given a chance to become a normal member of the world's sane nations again. This is thanks to Trump, and no thanks to his feckless and fearful predecessors who allowed this to continue for so long.

Willing Spirit's avatar

Once Americans know the Truth, the big picture, they’ll come around.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2026/03/massive-pro-usa-demonstration-los-angeles-after-us/

You should seek to know. Sounds like you so absorb and believe some media. The wrong kind.

Jake's avatar

Most American's didn't want to enter WWI and WW2 either. Our leaders thought otherwise. They had better data than most citizens but everyone is entitled to their opinions. Charles Lindburgh was against entering WWII until later in the war when lots of facts came out. The same will happen here...

The Great Resist's avatar

Well said, Juju! We had an incompetent, spineless, useless excuse for a President in 1979, and now, after 47 years, we finally have a President who has the courage and the strength to make tough decisions.

Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Thank goodness some other people are saying what I have. Every time I say something like this I'm accused of being a democrat and "unpatriotic."

Don't true patriots question their own government?

Sure feels like it's 1990 again - the war on drugs, and the invasion of the Gulf to "protect us" from "evil men."

Lori's avatar
4hEdited

We don't fully trust any govt. Quite frankly, the only one you can fully trust is God. People should be allowed to be free and women not have to wear durags on their heads and be considered less than a man. No one wanted this but they did not come to the table to talk. Their FAFO.

Abiding Dude's avatar

The negotiations were ongoing and making significant progress... but Trump used them as a ruse to attack... despicable, and he's done it before... all for the scum of ISRAEL

pretty-red, old guy's avatar

and again, Roman, Please read above CMCM's post to MJB:

You say: " I know nothing about the guy. You know why I know nothing about the guy? Because I’m not in Iran so I don’t have firsthand information and I utterly mistrust anything I see in the media. "

Then don't weigh in. I lived in Iran for two years during the overthrow of the Shah. I know how it used to be, and I know how it is now. I still have a lot of Iranian friends, many of whom have suffered greatly over the years. I believe the horrors they have told me over the years because they have been experiencing it. I also know how deliriously happy they are today at the removal of the monster who had boots on their necks for decades. Based on what I actually know rather than merely believing pap from an ignorant or partisan press, the removal of Khamenai and as many of his cronies as possible is the greatest thing ever to happen to the great country of Iran. The Iranians have been prisoners for 47 years. Try to imagine that. Now Iran finally has been given a chance to become a normal member of the world's sane nations again. This is thanks to Trump, and no thanks to his feckless and fearful predecessors who allowed this to continue for so long.

So, Once reading this, does this assuage you Roman? Or do you STILL need confirmation of others with your reservations. . .?

Discernment.

Richard Whitney's avatar

Lori, I always come to these threads so late that no one sees my comments.

I asked a question that no one answered, and I think maybe you could answer it. I think you are an evangelical Christian, am I right?

If Israel is destroyed by this war, is that part of the prophecies?

Mrs. RW

Torrance Stephens's avatar

Yes, we question, but don't stand against it.

Neil Kellen's avatar

The 1990 Gulf war was not to "protect us", but to free Kuwait and had nearly unanimous international support.

pretty-red, old guy's avatar

True, but we must recall that that was basically handle in the Kuwait war and it was NOT necessary to go in and STAY "looking" for WMD for years while riling the natives. . . That was NOT a good plan.

Neil Kellen's avatar

I thought the US armed forces, for the most part, left after Kuwait was liberated. I don't know about the intelligence services. I recall Schwarzkopf wanted to keep going but Bush I stopped the advance.

Anthony S Burkett's avatar

Thereis an adage that "it's better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt."... You would have done far better if you had considered that piece of advice before commenting.

Juju's avatar

There are a few tantrums here this morning because they wanted to control how we all perceived things, and it didn’t work. They are angry and so accuse us of being a cult because they can’t change our minds. 🤣 The absolute disrespect in that tells me they don’t believe anyone has the ability to analyze ALL sides of an issue but them, because they can’t fathom anyone would come to a different conclusion.

I’m laughing here because I’ve been blocked by a couple just seconds ago after responding to them properly - because they can’t have me in their chatter! Gosh no! Not that! Don’t give opposing views oxygen, right?

I block when someone has been incredibly rude or bullying, and border on harassing behavior with their replies. But they block after one au contraire comment of mine?

Am I dangerous to their mission here? Me thinks they think so. Lololol

Anthony S Burkett's avatar

Exactly!~ It boils down to a simple difference that we all share... I believe that there are basically two kinds of people in this world... there are those who HAVE ideas, and there are those who ARE their ideas.

When one has ideas, they can share those ideas with others by entering into a mutually respectful conversation where ideas are shared and evaluated against the backdrop of mutual respect and intelligent discourse... that certainly doesn't mean that we all necessarily agree on any one issue, but more so that we can agree to disagree... and to some degree, flesh out an understanding of the other's opposing ideas... even when we fail to agree on those ideas

On the contrary, when one is their ideas... any attempt to recognize, let alone give merit, to any deviation from a previously held and confirmed belief gives rise to a deletion of oneself... a complete erasure of one's identity when one is confronted with opposing viewpoints that would require consideration.

Juju's avatar

This!!! Stated so much better than my feeble attempts. Everyone should read your reply several times and understand it clearly.

Margot Wooster's avatar

I thought your comment was very good also. We all need to realize we do NOT have all the facts at this stage of the operation.

pretty-red, old guy's avatar

I will second that one.

Alice Ball's avatar

Anthony, this is perfectly formulated. One of my top irritations is how so many people just shout NO bc they ARE an idea. I've never thought of it that way. I just think they're so indoctrinated and the cognitive dissonance of even considering a different opinion would blow their brains out.

pretty-red, old guy's avatar

Great post Anthony. One of high discernement.

Lori's avatar

Not to worry Juju. We will never know the full plans down to the minutiae so instead of getting caught up, I remind myself God is in the driver seat and the world will unfold in keeping with the scriptures, good or bad.

pretty-red, old guy's avatar

Well they hate it because you efficiently and succinctly hover

OVER the target.

Juju's avatar

I just got blocked by another 🤣 They must be talking to each other “she’s not worth it, block her so she can’t see our posts and interfere …”

Then all of you still see it but I can’t. Lol Chickens. Ninnies.

Juju's avatar

I’ll be honest, it’s exhausting. I’m trying to potty train a rambunctious puppy AND follow comments at the same time. 😬😆 I’ve probably made some mistakes and mixed up some replies in the chaos. I KNOW I’m missing a lot of great comments by others and I think that’s another tactic some are using here, keeping each of us so busy in our own replies to theirs we can’t see the other original posts.

Most people would give up by now, and I almost do, but since that’s exactly what they want, to wear us down and shut us up, I doggedly keep going (no pun intended, Lolol.) Thankfully I have the time given I’m not working and too old to be in the fight physically. I just pray God gives me quick discernment in the chaos, and then a humble heart to recognize when I have received enough information to change my perspective and/or admit I was wrong.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

yeah, "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience."

Bill Campbell's avatar

and like wrestling with pigs in the mud--they rather like it

KC & the Sunshine's avatar

Even a fool, when he holds his peace, is counted as wise. And he that shuts his mouth is esteemed as a man of understanding.

Proverbs 17:28 💕

Connect The Dots's avatar

Uh oh... proverbs has a slight typo 🙄

KC & the Sunshine's avatar

OH MY GOSH! THANK YOU!!😂😂

Jamison's avatar

Iran has done nothing to us? Have you been living under a rock for your whole life?

Abiding Dude's avatar

Provide details.

Like the 911 attacks... the JFK assassination... teh Epstein/Mossad Extortion Operation...

Oh wait... those were all ISRAELI Ops!

Rich DiClaudio's avatar

How can you say with such confidence that very few of us support Trump and his active ending of the global elites rein of terror and OWO. Plus you seem to ignore that this is how our country organizes its governance. When our executive makes a legal move to protect, advance to advantage the USA we are all doing it together.

Abiding Dude's avatar

Bullcrap.

Polls shjoe clearly that 80% of Americans were AGAINST the Iran war.

Trump violated the Constitution in not getting congress to authorize... there was ZERO imminent threat (required).

How much lawlessness are you willing to accept?

Like Trump funding Israel's mas murder in Gaza??

Bill Campbell's avatar

MJB, your stance is EXACTLY the same as Jeff's, just on the opposite side. Please do not speak for anyone other than yourself. You have no idea what the majority of Americans want.

Patricia Woodard's avatar

I am 100% on Team Trump and Team Jeff. Won't waste my time trying to persuade anyone else.

Bill Campbell's avatar

exhausting. Thanks, Patricia

MJB's avatar
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Considering Jeff himself confirms there is very little support I guess I DO have an idea what the majority of Americans want …

Abiding Dude's avatar

Polls clearly show that 80% of Americas were against this lunatic action.

You should not speak at all.

Benjamin Two N's's avatar

You're apart of the USA, right?

Is Trump not your president?

Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

But this also applies to the Biden era as well. Just because the President does something doesn’t mean we have to support - or be included with it - as many of us did oppose the president and mandates when it came to the vaccines

I actually just wrote about this this weekend as well. Sad piece is that this isn’t even “war” since congress wasn’t involved, but the US is acting very much like an empire, not a democracy: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/war-without-a-declaration-whats-happening

I saw a picture and it stuck with me. It said: Americas president was Netanyahu— that speaks volumes. Israel speaks, we march — even at our own cost.

Jane Foster's avatar

The United States is not a lackey of Israel. All Western societies are based on Judeo-Christian principles. Antisemitism is a mental illness.

Laura Garcia's avatar

Challenging Netanyahu’s policies is not the same thing as anti-semitism. Come on….taking that position is a non-sequitor. Even his own people object to some of the policies of his government….does that make those Jewish Israelis antisemitic?!?!

Jane Foster's avatar

I was responding to those who have said that the US is doing Israel's bidding and those who have said, basically, "It's the Jews! It's always the Jews!" I said nothing about Netanyahu or his policies.

Laura Garcia's avatar

What?!?! Sorry….you can’t have it both ways. Netanyahu and Trump are representatives here of Israel and the US. One can object to their policies relative to this situation and others without being antisemitic or anti-American.

Unless you think that that Netanyahu and/or Trump get the final say on what it means to be Jewish or American.

One can be critical of Israel without that equating to hating or blaming Jews.

Personally, I am opposed to equating the two and am concerned about the increasing censorship punishment of anyone that expresses an option that puts in question Israel’s policies and the US support of said policies. What happened to the First Amendment?!

Jay's avatar

This “Netanyahu controls Trump” concept is getting tiresome. Trump has always supported Israel. Get over it

Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

this is a great comment! I think there’s plenty of evidence of trump doing what Israel says, but I’m curious if there’s any info of trump saying no to Netanyahu

Dena's avatar

There are probably many times, but one immediately comes to mind when Trump told Netanyahu to stand down during the Gaza peace talks.

Alice Ball's avatar

Franklin, the cult that thinks Israel is America's master (or Trump's master) is inept and antisemitic. Israel has long been an important ally and is the only democracy in the ME. Don't get on Tucker & Candace's train, it leads to oblivion.

Willing Spirit's avatar

Whoever blesses Israel

The nation is like a mighty lion;
When it is sleeping, no one dares wake it.
Whoever blesses Israel will be blessed,
And whoever curses Israel will be cursed.” ~ Numbers 24:9

“I will bless those who bless you,
But I will curse those who curse you.
And through you I will bless all the nations.” ~Genesis 12:3

All nations are blessed in the birth, life, and death of Jesus.

Torrance Stephens's avatar

Certain if you had to live in Israel or Iran, you would not select the latter.

KC & the Sunshine's avatar

Many presidents, both republicans and dems, have done similar things over the years, including Obama, Bush and others. Look back through the annals of history. Our laws say presidents can do so.

If Trump had run it by congress, they’d,

1. Still be talking about it, doing nothing proactive and,

2. The secret would be out. Covert operations would cease.

Do you think it’s helpful if Khamenei is blissfully unaware how close he was to death or better if we had talked about it in congress for a few more weeks and leaked out every scintilla of info any of the congressmen gleaned regarding the whole operation?

Benjamin Two N's's avatar

You don't have to support it but this isn't an internal thing, it's an external one and those planes, bombs, and drones have the USA on them.

Trump is doing the right thing for once. People have been accusing me here for years of being a deep state USAID bot but here I am defending Trump.

Beckadee's avatar

Noted. I still think you are a retard re Ukraine.

Jack Bergeron's avatar

Sadly, the evidence appears to indicate that. It’s past time we stopped selling/sending weapons to all foreign countries. President Eisenhower warned us against the military/industrial complex. In simple terms it is government industrial welfare on steroids.

Janine Melnitz's avatar

Tel Aviv Ted Cruz is a good example. The amount of APIAC money that goes through our elected leaders hands is ridiculous. Then if someone says anything against the Israel gov they are called anitsemetic.

Willing Spirit's avatar

What we receive from Israel is far more valuable than the ‘foreign aid’ package we provide. Steps are being taken to have a fair trade relationship with Israel that eliminates the pretext of ‘aid’ that has puts Israel haters’ panties in a wad.

https://www.israelunwired.com/good-news-from-washington-a-new-paradigm-for-the-us-israel-alliance/

Willing Spirit's avatar

Slander and blood libel against Israel. Americans owe such a debt to Israel.

Bard Joseph's avatar

At the moment presidents of the USA are being deposed about blackmail by Epstein.

Bombs away!

You still talking about Iran?

KC & the Sunshine's avatar

Dems had the Epstein files for years and years. This thing is not a big scam to distract us from Epstein files.

People can read, write stories, investigate, make arrests, give commentary, and prosecute even as soldiers are thousands of miles away cutting of the head of a snake who hangs people from cranes for refusing to chant “Death to America, the Great Satan!”

Two things can happen at the same time. We

Americans tend to be

talented like that.

Justin's avatar

There is a story out there that Iran hacked a blackmail database that Israel held relating to Epstein, and there was a picture shown with Epstein cradling a young child while flying in a plane, and seated across from him was Netanyahu.

Jane Foster's avatar

"There is a story out there." Oh, well then, that story must be true. Idiot.

Justin's avatar

The picture was shown and didn't look like it was AI generated. Would troll be an appropriate label for you?

Jane Foster's avatar

"It didn't look like it was AI generated"? AI is extremely sophisticated now. And did you actually see the picture, or did "the story out there" describe it to you as "not AI"? Would fool be an appropriate label for you?

Ray Bob's avatar

Much like the picture of Bigfoot walking through the woods or the Loch Ness monster swimming in the water or the other things that live in your head, I'm not a doctor but I would recommend you pull your head out of your anal cavity, it would appear you are suffering from permanent brain damage from a lack of oxygen and from having your head inserted in your anus for far too long. I don't think you can ever achieve the status of a mildly retarded monkey, but maybe one day with a great deal of work, you can just be an ignorant moron, keep trying Skippy, you'll get there one day you dumb bastard.

Justin's avatar

Ray Bob was your chosen nickname? oookay.

Alice Ball's avatar

OK Justin, maybe Ray Bob was a little over the top (but funny), you have to admit that saying something like "there's a story out there about Epstein & Bibi on a plane & I don't think it's AI" is just hysterically stupid. Of course it's AI.

Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Was Stalin the president of Ukrainians back in 1930, or were they forced to say he was?

Leskunque Lepew's avatar

Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union on those days. Stalin was their dictator.

Richard Whitney's avatar

There was no Ukraine until the Soviet Union admitted the Ukrainian Soviet Republic in 1922, so he was their leader, yes.

The OUN didn't like it, though. That's why they aligned with Nazi Germany when it invaded.

Mrs. RW

Jeff C's avatar

From Jeff Childers write up: France, Germany, and the UK all issued a joint statement calling Iran’s attacks “indiscriminate and disproportionate”

These people are completely delusional, this is a literal break with reality. Indiscriminate yes, but disproportionate? The US and Israel killed the regime's top 40 leaders with a decapitation strike, how can Iran's response be considered disproportionate? If any country did that to the US, our response would be a retaliatory nuclear strike.

I pray Trump has fully thought this through and knows what he is doing, because this looks like insanity to me.

LMWC's avatar

I consider your thoughts valid, though I do not agree. If your take turns out correct, I will be on here to say, I was wrong. However, I have been reading this substack long enough to see multiple times the defamers proven wrong, and never do I see them admit to being wrong. Just as in the covid scenarios, I would like to hear all the “pandemic assumers “ and “covid shot enthusiasts”, though well meaning, admit they were wrong.

Juju's avatar

This is exactly what I have seen too. After EVERY big news event they flood these comments with doomsday and smears, claiming all sorts of things about Trump … that are proven completely false a week later. Every stinking time. They don’t learn to wait, because they don’t want to. Their goal is not accuracy, it’s doubt, fear, and division.

Jake's avatar

There's this thing called "The 25 percent rule". If you were giving away free gold 25 percent would be against it. 25 percent would be for it. 50 percent wouldn't care. Scott Adams talked about this all the time with examples.

Juju's avatar

Yes! And there will be those that will claim their 25 percent is 100 percent. Lol. Those are the ones to watch out for.

Delightful Designs's avatar

I would LOVE to hear the people who pushed the jab admit they were wrong. I have watched too many people die of turbo cancer.

Politico Phil's avatar

Well here's the problem. Under Trump, the bio-weapon jabs are still on the market killing Americans and still assumed to be safe and effective. Also, so is the rest of the depopulation program of mass democide poisoning of America.

But hey! Let's not worry about that! We have Muslims to kill. (Sarcasm off)

Beckadee's avatar

Politico "Copy and Paste" Phil speaks.

Politico Phil's avatar

LOL, occasionally...

Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Same here - thank goodness you are speaking up - I've tried doing the same here and get called many names...just for asking simple questions. I hate to say it, but it seems like a cult to me.

Juju's avatar
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It’s comments like that that get you roasted, not the asking of questions. You never simply ask questions. Your wording makes it clear you’re trying to inject the answers for us, while topping it off with insults. The only cult I see is your ilk

Roman S Shapoval's avatar

What cult am I part of then? Do you know how hard it is to express a different opinion among 1000s that just want to shout you down? If I'm a cult, I'm a cult of one, and last time I checked, I don't have many followers on this channel.

Juju's avatar

Cult of one? 🤣 oh B.S. You know as well as we ALL do that you are NOT here alone. Nice try.

And what cult are WE a part of then?

So in your analysis a group of people who all agree with each other that you fail to influence forms a cult?? Is that right? 🤔

Roman S Shapoval's avatar

what do you mean by I am not here alone? Who else is with me?

A cult can be any group, it doesn't have to be a bad thing, it's just a group that forms under a charismatic leader.

Connect The Dots's avatar

"I get called many names... just for asking simple questions"

Victim speak.

Ask sincere questions, own your own opinions. Leave out the emotional manipulation.

Roman S Shapoval's avatar

This isn't victim-speak, I'm trying to point out that most people here don't want to have a discussion, but resort to name-calling, as you just did, saying I'm a manipulative victim.

Cabogirl's avatar

I do not see that here on this Substack. Many times if something goes in that direction I see that people here on Jeff’s Substack DO NOT comment and just move on. Sorry I don’t agree.

Johnny-O's avatar
3hEdited

Oh my god I've been called a democrat and TDS sufferer countless times for criticizing Trump. This place has turned into a tribal hotbed with little discussion/critical thought.

Connect The Dots's avatar

I did not call you a name… I named your actions.

Juju's avatar

That was the word I was looking for earlier and it escaped me. Yes, this is victim positioning because it’s not going the way he wants it to, so he shifts to being a victim of 1000s.

Trisha Burgeson's avatar

Thank you Jeff. This was another great discussion. I did not realize how many following you are not really conservative but here to cause dissent and try to fracture us. No worries, we true conservatives believe in Peace through Strength. Iran would not have hesitated to drop nuclear weapons on us and so many others. God bless our country! May this lead to Irans liberation.

Bleonard3's avatar

I would guess "disproportionate" relates to striking countries that did not fire at them or host launching of attacks. One can debate if Iran right/wrong to do so. In context of the 3 countries and vagueness of diplomatic language, word makes sense to me.

RunningLogic's avatar

Yes that was my understanding also.

Juju's avatar

They like to blur the lines of what was said so that fewer people will understand.

Bleonard3's avatar

Plausible deniability

Susan Seas's avatar

Name three countries who have never saved themselves.

Willing Spirit's avatar

@Jeff C. I totally disagree. Looks like the some of the first sanity in foreign policy I’ve seen in my 50+ years of observation.

But I’m sure the ‘experts’ and Tucker and Candace and Massie and Schumer and McConnell all agree with you.

Mystic William's avatar

I thought the disproportionate comment was absurd. It always is. War should be disproportionate. If it isn’t it never ends until every single person but one is dead. As far as logical? Completely illogical.

Politico Phil's avatar

LOL... we had the same thoughts I posted elsewhere.

Janine Melnitz's avatar

If Trump gets out now...I see this war going sideways quick.

Chevrus's avatar

There seems to be an a priori assumption (or whatever) that the USA at the behest of isreal is in the right when it conspires to destroy other nations in the Middle East. From where I stand this is facilitated by cultural programming and social engineering. The USA is deeply infiltrated by what can be described as an apartheid welfare state and is used as a golem to better their perceived adversaries. All manner of lies are brought forth to justify this. The USA is also used as a fatted calf much to its detriment. It appears that this role is nearing its expiration date and one final push to wreck Iran is needed. There is is no point in trying to convince the isreal firsters and the USA can do no wrong camp, their identity is sealed in a reality tunnel that will not tolerate deviation. They will simply need to arrive at the conclusions themselves and this only as a result of real consequences.

Juju's avatar

One issue with one comment: “…when it conspires to destroy other nations in the Middle East.”

We’ve done just the opposite. You are ignoring all the peace and alliances Trump has garnered with MOST of the ME in just under a year! Iran was the hornet’s nest of the most terrorizing network in the entire world, that is just a fact. Attacking them is NOT attacking the ME, especially since we went to great care to not harm the Iranian citizens and only went after their terrorizing leadership. And the amount of support from the other ME nations speaks volumes.

Chevrus's avatar

Freedom fighting when we do it

Terrorism when you do

Your commentary is so far removed from reality that it doesn’t really dignify a lengthy response

That and you are clearly just a pro-Zionist shell who populates these comment sections trying to sway public opinion

It won’t work

Juju's avatar

🤣 I’m not a “pro-Zionist.” I’m not a part of EITHER side of that rat’s nest issue. And the fact that you’re trying to place me on one side or the other is just absolute proof of the extremism I’m talking about.

Chevrus's avatar

You planted yourself they are pretty firmly no need for me to assist

Juju's avatar

Wow you are reeeeally delusional. I mean that seriously. You need to step back. This isn’t one side or the other the way you want it to be. “Side with me or you have planted yourself with the enemy!”

There are those of us in the middle who see great arguments on both sides and great faults too. You are one of the greatest faults on the anti-Israel side.

Willing Spirit's avatar

We’ll see what works in the end. You aren’t going to like the conclusion.

Are you as evil as your icon would indicate?

Lori's avatar

Oy Vey. We all know Israel is not an innocent; they have not been since the beginning. You only need read the Bible. They have done and still do some nasty things. I don't like Bibi and his govt and believe he is a Pharisee in the truest form of that word. What I can say is Israel plays a key part in the end of days (read Revelation) so they will not be destroyed ever. If they understood this, they would not feel the urge to be on the defensive all the time. Having said that, all people should be free and women not oppressed the way Muslims in some countries oppress them. We will never know the full story here. We wish to support the US and our President. For those that feel differently, you know where the borders are to exit if you are so miserable here.

Juju's avatar

Boom! 🎤🫳

Chevrus's avatar

It’s nice to see you guys are working as a team

Juju's avatar
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🤣🤣🤣 This is what a color revolution looks like right here, this guy … he’s carrying water and it’s so obvious by his reaction when people agree with each other here. We don’t have to work as a team - but that’s the ONLY way they know how to perceive people in agreement. Lmfao

Chevrus's avatar

Explain to us how it is a color, revolution, and what water is being carried

Willing Spirit's avatar

What is with the use of ‘Isreal’ in place of Israel? Seen it to many times for it to be accidental and since I don’t participate in anti-Israel discourse, I have no idea what it’s supposed to convey.

Please, enlighten me.

James Goodrich's avatar

We shouldn’t worry to much, our weapons that have killed so many Russians and in turn Ukrainians, have left us in a position where we will not be able to sustain a war in Iran for much longer. Our ability to wage any type of sustained war has been nearly completely depleted. This I’m sure makes the military industrial complex extremely overjoyed because the American taxpayer will again be on the hook to resupply the weapons used to kill millions again.

Lori's avatar

End of days James. I don't fret no matter what happens. I will look to my Lord for He is the only one that we can utlimately trust. And lest we forget, just read Judges and I and II Samuel. God Himself ordered the decimation of many through Joshua and others (of course for His own reasons.) War will never be extinct until we are gone.

Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Apparently you are wrong. We've still got combat missions going over Iran now.

Weapons are not a finite resource (like your brain cells). They are renewable.

Trump and Hegseth are cranking up weapons procurement and production which Biden started.

American weapons aren't killing Ukrainians (Unless you are talking about the Ukrianians Russia is forcing into their army).

American weapons are still killing Russians by the basket full and we are making money off it under PURL.

James Goodrich's avatar

I didn’t say we’re completely out of weapons but our abilities are drastically reduced, and who is on the hook to replace them, Trump? Is he reaching in his pocket to replace all of these weapons? No the taxpayer is. Oil is now up to 80 dollars a barrel brainiac, they say it could soon be 100 dollars a barrel your brilliance, how is that helping middle class and poor Americans, talk about limited braincells! I thought we were getting out of wars? America First?? You sound so thrilled that Russian boys are being killed by the basketful, was that the MAGA agenda also? Sick!

Jake's avatar

This isn't a war. It's a battle. Big difference. Check back in a month and see where we are.

Jane Tracy's avatar

James, I hope this is time-limited.

James Goodrich's avatar

I hope so Jane Tracy. I had a friend killed in Beirut many years ago. I’m no friend of the regime in Iran but see many bigger threats to the U.S. than Iran.

pretty-red, old guy's avatar

On the other hand James, could it be that being "low"on weapons is a seed pushed out of the Trumpie admin purposefully to tempt the Chynese to try something in Taiwan. . . ??? Hey, there might be bunkers-full just waiting.

Isn't there a US fleet over by Japan too?

Johnny-O's avatar

Weapons are renewable. Sure, but not in a few days. Furthermore, we rely on China, who we are currently pissing off - for a lot of the refined rare earth minerals we depend on for parts for our war machines. Another stellar strategic move by the neocon war mongers.

Cabogirl's avatar

Maggie think of me thank you for all your “liking” .. I love your screen name.

Gaye's avatar

“Only kings, presidents, editors, and people with tapeworms have the right to use the editorial 'we.'”

Mark Twain

Chevrus's avatar

Unit 8200 enters the chat….

Steenroid's avatar

Must have a mouse in his pocket.

Graphite's avatar

Duh! Feeling a bit slow this morning? 🤣

Chevrus's avatar

You wanna keep going or do you have better things to do?

Chevrus's avatar

I’m only part time…heck not even that!

“Everyone knows”

—-yeah sure buddy….

Blair's avatar

Thanks for the update on Iran and good to see their response appears rudderless at best.

Yes, tragically there have been US casualties as anticipated in the conflict and there will probably be more. It's easy for many to fall into the trap of yearning for isolation from foreign conflict, but always remember these inspiring words about our intervention in the middle east.

"Peaceful efforts to disarm the regime have failed again and again -- because we are not dealing with peaceful men"

"The regime has a history of reckless aggression in the Middle East. It has a deep hatred of America and our friends. And it has aided, trained and harbored terrorists, including operatives of al Qaeda"

"The United States and other nations did nothing to deserve or invite this threat. But we will do everything to defeat it. Instead of drifting along toward tragedy, we will set a course toward safety. Before the day of horror can come, before it is too late to act, this danger will be removed"

"The United States of America has the sovereign authority to use force in assuring its own national security. That duty falls to me, as Commander-in-Chief, by the oath I have sworn, by the oath I will keep"

"If we must begin a military campaign, it will be directed against the lawless men who rule your country and not against you. As our coalition takes away their power, we will deliver the food and medicine you need. We will tear down the apparatus of terror and we will help you to build a new country that is prosperous and free"

"no more executions of dissidents, no more torture chambers and rape rooms. The tyrant will soon be gone. The day of your liberation is near."

"We are now acting because the risks of inaction would be far greater. In one year, or five years, the power of the regime to inflict harm on all free nations would be multiplied many times over."

The United States, with other countries, will work to advance liberty and peace in that region. Our goal will not be achieved overnight, but it can come over time.

"The power and appeal of human liberty is felt in every life and every land. And the greatest power of freedom is to overcome hatred and violence, and turn the creative gifts of men and women to the pursuits of peace.

That is the future we choose. Free nations have a duty to defend our people by uniting against the violent. And tonight, as we have done before, America and our allies accept that responsibility.

Good night, and may God continue to bless America."

Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

It's a shame that so many people will not hear or read those words for themselves, but they will get the negative spin and believe that instead.

Juju's avatar

Right? It’s mind blowing watching that happen here. Has no one learned to not let the psyop work on their minds? They still want to be told how to think and then they point fingers at us for that. 🙄🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️ When the projection hits our own party, it’s disturbing.

Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

And I see that today the neo-cons like MTG and Massie are going to debate the war powers act. They are grandstanding, instead of solidifying their support. They should explain to the people that it was Obama who supported the terrorist regime with pallets of cash, and enriched uranium.

Juju's avatar

And explain their silence all those years until it was Trump

Lori's avatar

I think they both need an enema!

Willing Spirit's avatar

Demonic forces cannot be persuaded. They are sealed with their evil and done. Nothing for them to come but eternal fire. Their only pleasure is in the deception and destruction of mankind, for which they work tirelessly.

The only protection is the ‘whole armor of God.

Ephesians 6:10-18

New International Version

The Armor of God

10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. 14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. 16 In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17 Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.

Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Brian Cates, on his podcast just now, is making the point that these neo-cons who are not supporting Trump are doing so because Trump is removing their deep state assets and their money machine, just as he is doing with the cartels. I am reminded that after 9/11 the Congress was fully behind the Bush response. And 9/11 was a psyop done by our own government to further the deep state agenda and the war machine, and bring in the unpatriotic Patriot Act.

Cabogirl's avatar

Deep state slowly sinking thankfully. I agree that’s basically the end game.

FlatEarthFlyer's avatar

And they miss the transparently obvious: Iran immediately attacks all of its neighbors with ballistic missiles, proving beyond a shadow of a doubt how reckless and dangerous they really are, as a if we actually needed that to see it again after 47 years of Iranian atrocities. And we’re supposed to wait around until they have nukes to attach to those missiles? How did so many people get infected with cognitive dissonance? WEAK MINDS THAT IGNORE THE HISTORY SLAPPING THEM IN THE FACE.

Johnny-O's avatar

"rudderless?" If reports are accurate, they destroyed US base in Bahrain and have hit many others. How many more 10s or 100s of billions will we need to spend to rebuild? Will countries invite us back after seeing the blowback that can happen for allowing our bases there? Its far more complicated than Jeff Childers and the neocon war mongers realize.

Blair's avatar

You may want to reread the quotes I provided, consider their source, time that they were said / the context and realize that I was in fact making a broader more nuanced point.

Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Thank you president Trump for taking out Russian backed puppet leaders and setting the Iranian people on a path to freedom.

Billions in Russian and Chinese hardware, gone. In hours.

Torrance Stephens's avatar

Well said. Strang world, cats dissing USA Gold Medal-winning hockey team and mourning the Ayatollah. Demented never had a better definition. Why all this trans stuff is out of control.

https://torrancestephensphd.substack.com/p/trans-violence-express

Valerie's avatar

Oh look, there he is. Hasn’t read the post, just has to comment something negative. Boring.🥱

Benjamin Two N's's avatar

I'm literally praising DJT for doing the right thing.

WTF is your deal?

Valerie's avatar

Oops my bad, sorry. Guilty of my own accusation.

Willing Spirit's avatar

You just assumed it was the usual ‘two N’s’ of old. Somehow, today we have a reformed ‘two N’s’. Will wonders never cease?

Merry McIntyre's avatar

What??? Read his post again.

Valerie's avatar

I’ve already been corrected, and you’re right it was totally my fault.

Valerie's avatar

I’m trying to decide if I should delete my comment since I don’t want anyone else to not read carefully and agree with me, or leave it up because I’m not a jerk.

Margot Wooster's avatar

😜I think I get what you are saying. As much as we seem like a family here, at times, we are probably all strangers and it’s easy to be misunderstood.

Willing Spirit's avatar

If you delete it, my reply won’t make any sense😜

Mark D.'s avatar

Oh, look, here she is. Hasn’t read the comment…

james (seenitbefore)'s avatar

See how you like living with $200/barrel oil.

Jane Foster's avatar

Are you saying the United States should make moral decisions on the basis of the price of oil? Do you think we should have stayed out of WWII because it resulted in scarcity of a few consumer goods?

Lydia Lozano's avatar

You don't think anyone anticipated this and arranged to curtail it? Yesterday OPEC announced it is increasing production (and therefore supply) by 206,000 barrels a day. I think oil will go up, but not as high as you are wishing for it to rise.

james (seenitbefore)'s avatar

LNG up 50% in Europe, Qatar stops production, SA shuts down port facilities. OPEC did not factor in Iran's promised attack on every country that bases US military. We can have discussion again in a week and see who is right.

John Galt?'s avatar

Good. Now, maybe we can get rid of the government holidays too. You know, the ever-expanding list of paid days off (Juneteenth?!?) that the entitled class enjoys while the rest of us do our jobs. The pattern is unmistakable - the people who work for the government, quasi-government NGO's, the bankers and the financial system elite - they are all treated differently than those of us who do real work at for-profit companies.

Jpeach's avatar

The Iranian Terror Regime was just pushed over the cliff. The People of Persia will hopefully take their country back. Lasting peace in the Middle East is now possible. The CCP is running out of gas (literally). The Courageous and the Righteous are taking down the Global Bullies. Team Humanity is scoring major wins

Johnny-O's avatar

According to the same media who you know lies to us constantly - especially when it comes to war. But hey, I'm sure they are spot on this time!

Beth M's avatar

I know, right? Just like the "terror attack" in Texas! Dude was wearing Allah merch and everything haha so fake and so gay

Bleonard3's avatar

Re: CCP & gas - I think they can buy from anyone, including Russia. They like the price breaks, and probably enjoy indirect political impact with Iran & Venezuela

Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

"When justice is done, it is a joy to the righteous but terror to evildoers." Proverbs 21:15

Abiding Dude's avatar

Like Israel's genocide?

The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Got to admit witnessing armed militants attempt to storm the US Embassy in Karachi, Pakistan and get shredded into little tiny flesh bits stands in stark contrast to watching the Cardinals and Chickadees enjoying their time at the feeders this morning. The juxtaposition is jarring. What a strange and fascinating place. In the span of 60 seconds I'm overwhelmed by utter chaos and then transported to absolute serenity. On the upside, Benghazi 2.0 will not be.

Addendum: Mourning Doves have shown up by the dozens, recognized in North American, Native American, and other cultural beliefs as a spiritual symbol of peace, hope, and tranquility. Interesting. Polarity - the gift that keeps on giving….or rather, shattering my relatively peaceful reality.

Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Trump campaigned in 2016 on Benghazi. He won't allow it to happen again.

In 2019 when Iran backed Iraqis stormed a US Embassy it was Trump that smoked Soleimani and bombed Iran.

He ain't gonna let 2011 happen ever.

LMWC's avatar

Mourning doves have such a soft, mournful call, (hence perhaps, the name mourning dove). Unmistakable sound that always comforts me.

Signed: the inveterate bird watcher.

Fish Whistle's avatar

When I first heard them after moving to Jax, I thought they sounded like an older commercial alarm siren heard at a distance. Mourning Doves are frequently singing in my neck of Jax...

LMWC's avatar

Since I hail from the frozen north of Michigan, mourning doves hang around here all winter. They are ground feeders, sometimes big trays, but will not use normal feeders. I throw cracked corn on the ground, under the hanging feeders and I usually get a half dozen. I do not really hear them until the summer months, when I am up at dawn and hear their cooing.

Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

I missed that scene in Pakistan, sounds gory. I much prefer to watch the Nuthatches and Downeys on the suet feeder this morning.

Benjamin Two N's's avatar

It was pretty epic. Hundreds tried storming the embassy in Lahore.

Fla Mom's avatar

The Marines were stoked, I'm sure. "Finally!"

RunningLogic's avatar

It was a FAFO moment.

Jane Foster's avatar

The Embassy is in Islamabad. There is a Consulate in Lahore, which is probably surrounded by bloodthirsty savages right now.

Tiny basket of deplorable's avatar

Benjamin, is there a video?

Lydia Lozano's avatar

While that storming was going on, the Pakistani government declared war on Afghanistan, invaded, killed 300 Talibanis and destroyed several military bases. The details of this development are much more interesting than an embassy storming by radical Muslim crazies. Ask to comment, Trump said how much he appreciates Pakistan's leadership. Trump has been demanding that the Taliban give Bagram air base back to us for a year now. Ahem. Just sayin'

Yuri Bezmenov's avatar

Great start to the week. Apple News continues to aid the left in the propaganda wars. Paramount/CBS may help strike a better balance, but all of the CNN and ex-MSM hacks are flooding Substack with their human centipede of TDS slop: https://yuribezmenov.substack.com/p/trump-derangement-substack-profit-analysis

Lynne Morris's avatar

True. But Substack is not on screens in the airport and at the gym.

Bard Joseph's avatar

The secret of a cult is that one does not know that they are a member.

Peter's avatar

And if you hold up a mirror to them, that’s when they get really angry and call you MAGA

Dolce Far Niente's avatar

Actually, that's not the secret at all. But because you can't understand or refuse to understand, you will cling to a leftist talking point to the point of inanity.

Lori's avatar

Some do but do not have the courage to admit it or simply don't care or have no self esteem and go with the crowd that accepts them.

Abiding Dude's avatar

Think this guy is anything but a truth-telling Patriot?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLzdS-xAKh4&t=61s

Alan Davis's avatar

I have noticed this stack has a ton of newer followers that are pretty hostile to the author. Why do people follow Jeff if they always disagree with him? Is that called ‘hatescrolling’?

Fla Mom's avatar

This is the first time I've read the comments in a long time, and it's weird.

neener's avatar

They are definite trolls

WilliamD's avatar

I’ve been here since 2022, and there are definitely an unusual amount of schmucks here today. Judging by the likes I’d say between 15 and 17.

Abiding Dude's avatar

Compared to the Trump/Israel sycophants, spewing their laughable low-info BS?

Check out this and the entire channel... might wake you up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLzdS-xAKh4&t=61s

Cabogirl's avatar

Maybe bots but mostly likely Dems/Libs trying to cause friction. Don’t read them.

Bones's avatar

I’m sure the blue sky has sent a bunch of crows to take a crap on the Blogs author. It’s just the way the evil in our society works.

Patrice's avatar

The comments used to be peaceful, even if there were disagreements. Now there is a lot of rancor... Very sad.

Bones's avatar

Report whatever comment you want and it will disappear

Willing Spirit's avatar

Anything related to Israel brings legions of demons forth.

Tiny basket of deplorable's avatar

I think since his interview with Mike Rowe we have the trolls

Lori's avatar

it is what their hollow and narrow lives live for.

Jeff S's avatar

God bless America. And American soldiers. And the American people. Let no one's death be in vain.

Bard Joseph's avatar

God bless everyone. God blesses the truth and the just.

Satan supports the liars.

Abiding Dude's avatar

That's antisemitic!

Conservative Contrarian's avatar

I saw this on X

X

"The last time I checked:

🇮🇷 Iran hasn’t stolen any of my freedoms.

🇮🇷 Iran didn’t run up $38 trillion in national debt and destroy our standard of living.

🇮🇷 Iran didn’t pass the Patriot Act to spy on Americans.

🇮🇷 Iran didn’t pass the income tax.

🇮🇷 Iran didn’t establish the IRS.

🇮🇷 Iran didn’t hand over full control of US monetary policy to a private banking cartel with the Federal Reserve Act of 1913.

🇮🇷 Iran didn’t force the NIH to fund gain-of-function research in Wuhan China.

🇮🇷 Iran didn’t lock down American cities, businesses and schools.

🇮🇷 Iran didn’t pass experimental and deadly mRNA “vaccine” mandates.

🇮🇷 Iran didn’t print $7 trillion during the COVID Plandemic and destroy the American economy.

🇮🇷 Iran isn’t hosting drag queen story hour in our elementary schools and libraries.

🇮🇷 Iran isn’t promoting destructive life altering transgender surgeries and medications to children.

🇮🇷 Iran isn’t flooding American airwaves with pharmaceutical products.

🇮🇷 Iran isn’t trying to block out the sun or spraying harmful chemicals all over our skies.

🇮🇷 Iran isn’t spraying all our crops with cancer causing pesticides.

🇮🇷 Iran didn’t give glyphosate manufacturers immunity from poisoning Americans.

🇮🇷 Iran didn’t accuse a Supreme Court Justice nominee of being a gang rapist.

🇮🇷 Iran didn’t spend $8 trillion invading Iraq and Afghanistan, only to hand the latter back to The Taliban after the government collapsed in 3 days following 20 years of occupation.

🇮🇷 Iran didn’t steal the 2020 election.

🇮🇷 Iran didn’t open America’s borders and flood the country with 40 million illegal immigrants.

🇮🇷 Iran didn’t to start a race war by spreading hate-crime hoaxes all over our cable news and social media networks.

🇮🇷 Iran isn’t hiding the Epstein documents and failing to prosecute corrupt billionaires, politicians and royal family members.

🇮🇷 Iran isn’t forcing Americans to pass hate-speech laws and tear down the 1st amendment.

🇮🇷 Iran has never attacked us on American soil.

🇮🇷 Iran didn’t authorize Operation Fast & Furious to allow weapons to be illegally purchased and taken back to Mexico, only to be used to kill US border patrol agents.

🇮🇷 Iran didn’t overthrow Gaddafi and destroy the country of Libya where they now have modern day slave markets.

🇮🇷 Iran didn’t hide the contents of Anthony Weiner’s laptop with over 340,000 emails from Hillary Clinton, including a files labeled “Crimes Against Children”.

🇮🇷 Iran didn’t use America’s intelligence agencies, FISA court, media organizations or political class to frame Trump for treason.

🇮🇷 Iran didn’t draw up plans to assassinate Julian Assange for exposing US war crimes in the Middle East.

🇮🇷 Iran didn’t exile Edward Snowden for revealing the widespread illegal surveillance being conducted on American citizens.

🇮🇷 Iran didn’t assassinate JFK, RFK or Charlie Kirk.

The US government did all of those things on behalf of subversive domestic and foreign influence."

Mark D.'s avatar

Iran is a key ally of the US deep state and the democrat party for which it works.

Bard Joseph's avatar

We installed the Ayatollah to sell more opium. The Shah was slacking. Same with Afganistan.

Benjamin Two N's's avatar

We did not.

If you remember correctly it was the Ayatollah who took over our embassy in 79 and held Americans hostage for 444 days.

Bard Joseph's avatar

Right

Reagan arranged it to raise the price of oil. Lest we forget the trading of weapons and oil with Israel in the Iran Contra affair. Hostages freed after Reagan victory. Ayatollahs are allies. There leaders may still be alive.

Mary C Irwin's avatar

Dude, come on. The Islamic revolution in Iran began 444 days BEFORE Reagan became president. If you want to hold a president responsible for the ayatollahs taking over Iran, you can thank the saintly Jimmeh Caahtah.

Dr Linda's avatar

Thanks for bring that up. I thought that was the case but wasn’t sure.

Magdalene's avatar

The Iranian government is perfect & has created heaven on earth for silly Persians who thought they had a successful & prosperous nation before the Islamic Republic was imported from France. And they totally weren't a Five Eyes Boogeyman op to keep the ME in foreverwar. 🙄

Bard Joseph's avatar

Name one country invaded by Iran.

Fabes55's avatar

By Iran or its surrogates?

Leskunque Lepew's avatar

If you made these comments in Iran. You'd be in jail forever.

Conservative Contrarian's avatar

That makes no sense. Why would I be jailed for repeating a post that notes Iran had nothing to do with the listed events? Do you think they think they did have something to do with them?

Jeff S's avatar

Impressive list.

Jacquijacq's avatar

Trump didn’t do any of those things either. That’s why they want him gone. I get why people are jumpy about this attack on Iran but the powers that be have been very happy to let this fester and use it to their advantage so maybe Trump had a different plan

Conservative Contrarian's avatar

Maybe? Maybe not. Trump has ownership for some in that list. Operation Warp Speed, the payouts during covid & several others.

It's the "Follow the Science" type of blind loyalty that is so fascinating to watch.

Jacquijacq's avatar

I suppose that true. I feel like he was so naive first term. He actually thought DC operated for the people. This time he is not getting fooled

Conservative Contrarian's avatar

If Trump isn't getting fooled, again, & I don't think he is, then it must mean he intends for all of his confusion to happen.

“For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.”

‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭14‬:‭33‬

Fabes55's avatar

I wonder what the 32000 or so people recently killed by the government would have to say about that list.

Conservative Contrarian's avatar

A report made by a Saudi government mouth piece? Not very reliable for accuracy, but you go with their narrative, it won't change anything.

Conservative Contrarian's avatar

I wonder if the "friends" in Kuwait who shot down the 3 F15's were muslim "friends".

Satan's Doorknob's avatar

Just a small public service announcement to all the credulous readers here:

As a friendly reminder, you should keep in mind that in “normal” times, even the best of times, the mass media routinely omits critical information, tells outright lies and puts a slant on what it does tell. In other words, business as usual. Sometimes they tell the truth, but frankly, beyond the weather forecast and the sports scores, you're rapidly walking into the tall grass.

For the present moment, we are in what, day 3 of an undeclared war. It’s “traditional” in wartime to lie even more than usual.

In sum: you simply can’t, or shouldn’t, believe anything you read, hear or see. More of the truth will come out, but it’ll probably take weeks, months or years.

Jacquijacq's avatar

One thing I can believe is the woman from Iran who talked about life under the regime. She talked about a mother of two who got killed for peacefully protesting. Whether you think we should step in or not, you have to admit that they are a crazy bunch of evil running Iran !!!

Abiding Dude's avatar

How about the evil scum corrupting American politicians and Trump?

Demeisen's avatar

All true.

But there are patterns.

A crude heuristic would be to observe that most people who hate America (culturally) and want to replace it with brown-tinted European post modern socialism seem to have supported Iran during most of my active professional life: Barack Obama comes prominently to mind. And Biden, who basically provided cover for the 3rd term. The same academic in New York who started he was "exhilarated" at the raw cruelty on Oct 7th, and people like him (not uncommon in the academy) would be happy for Iran to have nuclear weapons and launch capability.

"Why shouldn't they have nuclear weapons, too?" It's a mindset that is, at best, unwilling to endorse the value of its own culture and philosophy.

Johnny-O's avatar

If they do "hate" America, why may that be? Maybe because of US support of Iraq's invasion a few decades ago? Giving mustard gas to be used against the Iranians? Invading and killing and displacing millions of muslims in surrounding countries in the past couple of decades? Gee, I wonder why they may not like the US.

Jacquijacq's avatar

And just to add- I’m not 100% on board with this but I do feel like we have been kicking the can down the road for too long. Iran has stated its ultimate goal clearly

Jacquijacq's avatar

“Not liking us” is a little mild when they have stated their ultimate goal is “Death to America”

Politico Phil's avatar

"Sticks and stones" folks. The real question is "What right does the USG have supporting wars on the other side of the planet?"

Seriously! Someday someone will be supporting a war against us on this side of the planet and when we complain they will say "You set the example."

Trump needs to stick with his original National Security Strategy and pull America's military back to a hemispheric defense (example: Venezuela) instead of supporting the Zionist NeoCons' war for a Greater Israeli Empire at the expense of American blood and wealth.

Abiding Dude's avatar

So true. Truth-tellers are called "trolls"... as the uninformed fools lap up the pro-Israel BS.

This is a great channel if anyone is willing to wake up to TRUTH vs Zio-pig lies:

https://www.youtube.com/@judgingfreedom

Tiny basket of deplorable's avatar

Thank you Jeff for bringing us to speed every morning. May God bless you and your family.

Laurence Temojin's avatar

This could be one of those weeks in which decades happen.

Bard Joseph's avatar

Truth is the first casualty of war.

Fear is the greatest control.

Get your shot.

Freebird's avatar

I just read the opening comments to my husband and he made a great point. The foolish response of Iran shooting off missiles into the “neighborhood” as Jeff said, was not any sort of strategy, rather it was the panicked response of low level players whose leadership had just been taken out.

The head of the beast was gone and what’s left is flailing around.

Juju's avatar

JUST replied this same thing elsewhere! Nailed it.

Abiding Dude's avatar

Jeff's comments on Iran's response was, sadly, a bald-faced lie.

Israel early on blew up 2 kiddie schools... murdered over 100 little girls.

THAT ok with you?