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RebeccaGrrrl's avatar

GREAT story and excellent news about the FAA gamer hires. Perfect logic and execution, it sounds like. These are WINS for us all!!!

Susan Seas's avatar

Teenagers who have never seen the sun 😂

I hope my sons never hear this info. 😅

NoVA mom's avatar

They could be making serious dough…but super super stressful.

Cabogirl's avatar

I think they are used to stress… gaming is not relaxing.

NoVA mom's avatar

But real people are in those planes!!

gail driscoll's avatar

Thinking that the gaming is up there on stress levels…you think it’s a game but gamers don’t.

dts3204's avatar

You meanAlec Harridson might have made it as an air traffic controller. IYKYK

Elaine Russky's avatar

The young grand-nieces and nephews in my family must have gotten the memo. One is learning network security; another plans to do auto body work; and the youngest grand-niece has a journeyman electrician license, wearing a tool belt that weighs more than she does.

john kingsbury's avatar

I sent this to my son.

Paula Kroll's avatar

Make sure to give them vitamin D3 and K2. My husband works in a dark man cave!

Susan Seas's avatar

My sons are out of the house, they would just say I was Wrong about it rotting their brains 😂

Karmy's avatar

It comes down to thinking with common sense. Kudos to Sean Duffy.

Playfulatheart's avatar

While in college over 20 years ago we learned that the best air traffic controllers were gamers. Why is anyone surprised by this?

SP's avatar

I'm not surprised, but very happy to see the DEI / PC circle of mediocracy finally broken.

I'm a dinosaur and rather detest the digital world we live in, but am amazed how my grandson can help grandpa out with a problem on a phone or computer.

I took great joy though last weekend. The grandkids and parents joined me at the Great Oregon Steam-up, an annual display of early mechanized farm and stationary equipment. There were two old crank phones set up in different locations. Fully operational, you crank the magneto to ring the bell on the other phone and talk to whoever picks up. The kids were fascinated!

Justin's avatar

The last star fighter picture was priceless and perfect!

I hope there's no idea of respawning after an incident, and yes, insulting someone else (Co worker, pilot, ground crew) seems to me to be a distinct possibility. And hopefully not going postal.

Freedom Fox's avatar

Beware Dan (100% All in FED) comment below. A Fed entrapment asset. Attempting to organize massassinations of targeted officials here on C&C. Just like the Whitmer "conspiracy" brought in a bunch of unsuspecting stoners, 20 arrested, 14 Fed assets, cases against Feds dismissed, while the six suckers were given hard time. Same Dan (100% All in FED) and its partner (they operate in teams) Alan DeFEDicentis.

Hence the Ray Epps#2 moniker.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/bashing-monday-august-3-2026-c-and/comment/308056400

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/bashing-monday-august-3-2026-c-and/comment/307396485

Many more. Both of them. Plus lots of Jew hate. Nice to help advance the Fed+Media narrative of "White Nationalist Domestic Terrorists."

The problematic federal statutes for them noted below. But Feds are able to say such things when entrapping. So be warned.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2383

18 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2384

18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2385

18 U.S. Code § 2385 - Advocating overthrow of Government

Federal and State Terroristic Threat Statutes

https://www.findlaw.com/criminal/criminal-charges/terrorism-and-terroristic-threats.html

Patty's avatar

FF, I have the same worries about a poster on C&C named Lori. She sounds unhinged and very angry. Have you read her comments?

Freedom Fox's avatar

I’ve not noticed 'her.' But don’t doubt it. Because we feel like we’re speaking amongst friends here we forget our non-friends lurk here, too. Many even engage as if they are friends. But friends they are not. And our best interests are not what they have in mind.

That doesn't mean we don’t say what we think, that we don't speak freely. What we say is important to be said, for them to see, hear, to know how many of us passionately think as we think; their designs for us aren’t going to be as easy as they otherwise would think they will be to impose.

But we can’t be stupid, either. And hand them the justification to take us out, neutralize our counterrevolution. Our nation was overthrown via a quiet revolution. Quiet being the essential word. A loud one would’ve been easy to put down.

Malactors like Dan, Alan, Lori types litter large chat rooms like a C&C comment thread become. Suckering in the less astute who forget the Invidia all-seeing eye that surveilles, entraps the unwitting.

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

I fly my RV7 in the National Airspace all the time in controlled and uncontrolled airspace. I cannot tell you how critical it is to have highly competent controllers at airports and FAA enroute centers. And it is easy to tell the difference when communicating with a skilled controller and one who isn't. Where I do a lot of my flying we routinely have new controllers gaining experience in a low traffic environment, and also some contractors (I don't like the contractors but the FAA has had to do some of that hiring to fill the huge void). You'd never want them in a high traffic area like PHX or DFW, etc. It does require excellent communications skills and sharp and in many cases, split second decision making (a good controller would have prevented the horrific crash between the UH60 and the Regional Jet in DC). I can certainly see where certain types of gamers would do excellent in the ATC environment. One thing is certain, without more competent controllers the likelihood of crashes increases significantly. I think there are a lot of heroic controllers pulling lots of double shifts to keep the airspace safe (and making a ton of money too). And ultimately, it comes down to the PIC (Pilot in Command) of each airplane to take directions from ATC, or not.

SP's avatar

I'll trust the Trump admin in this new hiring program, it has to be better than hiring to meet social quotas. I would perhaps like to see some basic military type training to teach teamwork, discipline and social skills. Multi lingual skills would be a tremendous asset at international ports. Pray this works out, thousands of lives and amazon packages depend on it ;-). Gravity is unforgiving and two solid objects cannot occupy the same space at the same time, a simple fact that seemed to be a secondary thought to previous administrations.

Safe flights, Dan.

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Amazon packages indeed! 🤣Flying cars are on the very near horizon (Jetsons). we will have them in our driveways. No, no, no on the multilingual, oh that would be a disaster of untold magnitude! All pilots and ATC which handle international flights must speak English so everyone understands what everyone is saying.

100% right on solid objects and gravity. All IFR flights are positively separated by ATC to ensure they don't come together. And yes on Trump admin getting it right.

Thanks on Safe Flights, its mandatory in my bird, from the moment she's rolled out of the hangar until safely back in. It is always first priority and deeply integrated in aviating, navigating and communicating in 3d space.

SP's avatar

I should have been more clear on my multi lingual statement, Dan. Yes, American english is the international standard for pilots, however often the english spoken or comprehended by english as a second language pilots can be a roadblock in an emergency.

As long as everything is fine, landing and taxying is usually performed safely. It will be very interesting to see how this program plays out. It can't be any worse than the mess the left has saddled us with.

I'm amazed at the safety record overall in aviation, especially with a compromised ATC. A testament to professional pilots like yourself, taking nothing for granted.

Elaine Russky's avatar

I predict that in the future, all airplanes will be operated remotely like drones.

Debra's avatar

The Jetson's did fine. lol

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Elaine, I sure hope not, they are way too much fun to fly... but i get your point and agree that most commercial and a lot of military aviation will be pilotless. As it is right now, many of the heavies already fly themselves with the pilots along for situational awareness and emergencies.

Elaine Russky's avatar

Did you ever see "Airport 1975" where Karen Black has to pilot a passenger jet because the pilot was dead?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaddVUt79PM

Justin's avatar

As long as there aren't any who are doing the "LEROYYYY JENKINS!!!" bit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLyOj_QD4a4

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

I'm not a gamer, and that is a cray game. What is it? I couldn't really tell what was going on but it appears Leroy threw a wrench in the plan and ended up getting everyone whacked?

Justin's avatar

Yes, you got the story right. All that teamwork and planning, and someone wants to be a hero and everyone dies.

I don't know what game that is.

Classic Rider's avatar

June 2019. Wife and I are on an Alaskan cruise. Wife starts getting sick along with a lady we met on the ship a day before we get off. Got her home, but she was really getting ill. Bronchial and intestinal. I came down with something a week after we got home. I mention intestinal because that was also a Covid symptom. The ship had just transferred to Alaska from China and surrounding area.

Lisa Ricketts's avatar

Not by accident. That transferred more than just the ship!

Robert Vernon's avatar

The US Army has been hiring high school graduates to serve as Warrant Officer pilots forever. No college degree requirement.

pretty-red, old guy's avatar

yep, sounds great.

Let's just hope they have a way to weed out the nutjobs who enjoy blowing up stuff on line!

Juju's avatar

There are just as many crazies in the non-gamer crowds too. No difference really in risk. All nutjobs need to be weeded out of any particular group

Paula Kroll's avatar

My husband would have given anything to have this opportunity. At 63, he is still gaming and good at it, but too old to be eligible.

Fred's avatar

Gamers are also exceptionally good at robotic surgery.

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

✝️✝️✝️

“But at the end of that period, I, Nebuchadnezzar, raised my eyes toward heaven and my reason returned to me, and I blessed the Most High and praised and honored Him who lives forever;

For His dominion is an everlasting dominion,

And His kingdom endures from generation to generation.

All the inhabitants of the earth are accounted as nothing,

But He does according to His will in the host of heaven

And among the inhabitants of earth;

And no one can ward off His hand

Or say to Him, ‘What have You done?’”

— Daniel 4:34-35 NAS95

✝️✝️✝️

John Galt?'s avatar

Step 1) Raise your eyes toward heaven. Check

Step 2) Get your reason restored. Check

Go thou and do likewise.

Melissa S's avatar

Insightful observation! How much of the insanity that goes on in this world would be reduced if raising ones eyes toward heaven first was a default decision rather than a last or never decision?

Debra's avatar

Makes me crazy daily. Faith is not rocket science.

John infinity N's's avatar

Nice one. Shows His sovereignty that He doesn’t need only righteous believers to accomplish His plan. Even Nebuchadnezzar wrote inspired Scripture.

RJ Rambler's avatar

It shows that you can't reason with God or understand His ways but that He chooses to include you in His plan. So worship Him as you would the only One who both created you, allows you to live live on His time and air, died rightly judged your insubordination AND proves over and over that you have no control.

SP's avatar

After living in the wild eating grass like an animal for seven years. At least I think that's what the book of Nebuchadnezzar says...

Debra's avatar

King Nebuchadnezzar, he was outstanding in his field.

https://www.gotquestions.org/Nebuchadnezzar.html

Bard Joseph's avatar

It's no Sermon on the Mount about compassion.

Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

Janice I was just listening to this verse this morning. So appropriate.

Bard Joseph's avatar

All the inhabitants of earth count as nothing?

Sounds like the Middle East foreign policy. Paging Gaza

Lori's avatar

But inhabitants of the earth are something, not nothing for God made all of us and the animals and we matter.

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

Lori, I believe it is hyperbole used to show that God is so much higher than us that it seems we are nothing in comparison. Like when Jesus said in Luke 14:26 that unless someone hates his father and mother, he cannot be His disciple. In other words, we should love Jesus so much that every other love pales in comparison and even looks like hate. That is my understanding.

Lori's avatar

Thanks Janice. Seems silly for Daniel to have to say that as we all know that already. Daniel should have used other words imho especially bc he knew how much God loves us and the animals or He would not have bothered creating us to begin with. Grrr.

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

Well, Daniel quoted Nebuchadnezzar as he was inspired to do by the Holy Spirit in recording the events. What was silly was Nebuchadnezzar surveying his kingdom and thinking so highly of himself when it was the Most High God who placed him in power.

Lemmincakes's avatar

“Never mind that Wuhan Institute of Virology researchers were hospitalized with covid-like symptoms in the fall of 2019, months before the wet market cases appeared.” I distinctly recall that in the fall of 2019, when our choir and the choirs of our sister churches in the area were practicing for a combined church concert set for February 14, ALL the directors were REALLY sick with “some bug” that they had shared with each other. They all went to every practice sharing those bugs. Then in early 2020 it all came out. My theory is that it started way before all the panic started.

Susan Seas's avatar

My sister returned from Hawaii with a terrible illness in Nov 2019

I totally agree it had begun then.

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Bill Rice, Jr. the Substacker began his career here with that as his big fight: covid began much earlier than we were told. Weird things happened where I live: local districts had to close before Thanksgiving in 2019 for a week because so many students and faculty were out with some kind of rough flu. A friend of mine was sick around Christmas that year with a flu he had trouble shaking. And we live in rural Pennsylvania.

Dena's avatar

The Wuhan international military games were held in late October 2019. That event had everything to do with the worldwide spread imo.

rolandttg's avatar

I got really sick for a few days in January. Only time I sat out for most of my workout while my wife finished hers. So, it is clear from here and my own experience a lot of people got whatever flu they called covid before March.

Lisa Ricketts's avatar

I got it in 2019 last week of December through the 10th of January! I still have pain taking deep breaths in hot or smoky weather!

Freedom Fox's avatar

I've shared this comment frequently on Bill Rice's Stack, he's expressed much (but not total) agreement. Which is Ok. For him and other readers to consider, a bit of background on what happened 2019-2020 leading up to the declaration of a "global pandemic."

Since most people have only been exposed to a binary choice about convid, wet market/lab leak, the only debate that's received ears and eyeballs I have another possibility for readers to consider. I'm always leery of false binaries, generally constructed to keep curious minds from exploring outside the box. Some minds don't stay inside boxes. And apply their curiosity to other possibilities. To wit:

This information from pharmaceutical and health policymaker's official industry publications may point us to the possibility that the 2019-2020 flu 'vaccine' itself helped generate the perception that Covid was an exceptionally dangerous and infectious pathogen. The 2019-2020 flu jabs themselves may very well be responsible for the severe outcomes that were being experienced, either via direct injection or shedding from vaccines - that we know happens with the LAIV model that was standardized for use in the 2019-2020 version.

An investigator leaving no stone unturned isn't limited to two possibilities. A skilled investigator on a relentless search for truth, no matter where it leads, would start digging around into what was actually in those 2019 flu jabs that could have precipitated the entire pandemic. Yes, we know that 'vaccines' themselves shed. Fauci and the CDC eventually admitted that even about the mRNA COVID design. But especially the live-attenuated types that were used in the 2019-2020 flu season design. So one didn't need to receive the flu shot that year to have gotten very sick from it.

And the 2019 flu jab used a known severe H3N2 variant that was hotly debated about its inclusion in the quadrivalent because it was known to be very severe. Here's some interesting information that may help connect some dots when paired with the study found in the Substack link towards the end this comment. And don't miss the November, 2019 CNN Fauci section I include that is also very, very curious to consider with 20/20 hindsight. Given all that has transpired since it takes on a very predictive appearance, similar to "priming" in psychological parlance:

- This publication describes a brand-new style of flu 'vaccine' that came online for the 2019-2020 flu season. Mammalian cell-based instead of egg-based. Claims that it was studied for efficacy...but no mention of safety trials:

https://pharmaceutical-journal.com/article/news/first-cell-based-quadrivalent-vaccine-available-for-2019-2020-flu-season

"A new cell-based seasonal influenza vaccine has been issued marketing approval by the European Commission and will be available for the 2019/2020 flu season.

Flucelvax® Tetra (Seqirus) is the first cell-based quadrivalent influenza vaccine (QIVc) to be made available in Europe and is licensed for use in individuals aged nine years and older.

To date, there have been no randomised controlled trials comparing the efficacy of QIVc and standard egg-based quadrivalent vaccines (QIVe)"

“This real-world study, along with other emerging evidence, indicates that cell-based influenza vaccines may result in better influenza-related outcomes compared to standard egg-based vaccine options in some seasons"

"In the UK, the potential advantages of QIVc, which is cultured in mammalian cells rather than eggs"

“We are pleased to be bringing Flucelvax Tetra to the UK next season and have sufficient capacity at our cell-based manufacturing facility in the US to also ensure supply in September 2019"

- This article is interesting. It says that they added live-attenuated influenza 'vaccines' to the schedule. It goes on to say that flu 'vaccines' most definitely, positively, absolutely don't cause the flu, and by that definition won't shed...even after all of the science on 'vaccines' admit that live-attenuated 'vaccines' do shed. Curious:

https://www.uspharmacist.com/article/20192020-influenza-vaccine-update

"The 2019–2020 influenza vaccine recommendations of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) have remained mostly the same, with the exception of adding the LAIV to the immunization schedule."

- These articles tell us about what the WHO's process is and what they decided the 2019-2020 'vaccine' recommendations would be. I'll note that the first link speaks to concerns with preparing for H3N2 from the prior year, while the second link says they ended up not developing that specific strain of 'vaccines', after all, and the third link says they went ahead and included the H3N2 variant, after all. H3N2 was a "very severe" variant:

https://elemental.medium.com/inside-the-making-of-the-flu-vaccine-c5d6f8cd174c

https://www.precisionvaccinations.com/who-vaccine-recommendations-are-used-pharmaceutical-companies-develop-produce-and-license-influenza

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/918053

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- Now, this is an interesting story from CNN that came out in November, 2019, an important time frame in the evolution of the covid story. Note the discussion about the need to develop a new type of all-purpose 'vaccine', a desire to test it widely, one that focused on a protein they link to a particular virus...like, say, a spike protein. Fauci is frequently quoted in it:

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/11/29/health/universal-flu-vaccine/index.html

"But a universal flu shot would theoretically cover every strain of the flu using what’s known as an ice cream cone approach."

"Last spring, doctors at the NIH started testing universal flu shots on Sonn and other study participants to see how their bodies respond.

The research got an extra push in September when President Donald Trump signed an executive order aimed at developing a better flu vaccine.

Fauci said it could take less time – but still many years – to develop a semi-universal flu shot, which would protect against not all flu viruses, but rather a group of flu viruses."

"The faster and more precise method is not to grow the virus at all and instead just create the virus’ protein, he said.

“We clone the gene that codes for the specific protein we want,” Fauci said. “I don’t even want to see the virus. I just need the sequence of that virus, the genetic map of that virus. And you could send that to me by email.”

That’s the technology that’s being used to create the vaccines being trialed on participants like Sonn right now.

“We feel like we’re pioneers, and our volunteers are pioneers,” Ledgerwood said."

And there is a strong correlation between the 2019-2020 flu vaccine and COVID-19 susceptibility:

https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/how-flu-vaccines-accidentally-reveal

About that 2019 severe variant high-shed flu 'vaccine?' Culprit? And how does that CNN piece from November, 2019 read in hindsight now? Anyone with resources to investigate and see what kind of "there" is there?

Again, I'm always leery of binary limited possibilities. What seems obvious at first is often a misdirection leading away from the true source. And with the entire industry of flu 'vaccines' that discovery of skulduggery in would jeopardize has a whole lot of rea$on$ to not want this type of information to be revealed. It would generate a whole lot of "vaccine hesitancy," you know. And a whole lot more.

How difficult would it have been given the design of the 2019-2020 flu 'vaccine' to "smuggle" a more severe, more transmissible pathogen (via shedding) into that delivery method that would initiate sufficient severity and death to spur the narrative of convid-19? In a bioterror attack one only need a little biology to jumpstart the terror. Like a few hijackers of a few planes became a global war on terror? Engineered Biotoxins + Engineered Media Narrative = BioTerror.

The 2019-2020 flu 'vaccine' bioterror ushered in the death, sterilization and loss of essential liberty payload that OWS was. My theory, my research, not put forward by others.

Politico Phil's avatar

"....How difficult would it have been given the design of the 2019-2020 flu 'vaccine' to "smuggle" a more severe, more transmissible pathogen (via shedding) into that delivery method that would initiate sufficient severity and death to spur the narrative of convid-19? In a bioterror attack one only need a little biology to jumpstart the terror. Like a few hijackers of a few planes became a global war on terror? Engineered Biotoxins + Engineered Media Narrative = BioTerror.

The 2019-2020 flu 'vaccine' bioterror ushered in the death, sterilization and loss of essential liberty payload that OWS was..."

Thank you Freedom Fox! I had not made this connection and it's a doozer of an insight. This adds another big piece to the covid genocide puzzle. I had already posted my comment before I read this but your comment dovetails nicely with mine....

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Are we still talking about Fauci? Really? I am so over him! And are we still talking about a so-called "virus" that never existed except as a phantom terror in the Gov'ts plandemic psyops? Sure, people die every "flu" season mostly to help older folks who already have one foot in the grave transition to the after life. Happens every year.

BUT, and this is a big but, all-cause-mortality (the one statistic they couldn't lie about) did not go above baseline during the "covid pandemic", contrary to all the media hype,.... UNTIL the military's bio-weapon "covid" shot was deployed. Hello? Is anyone awake out there? The so-called covid virus killed no one unless you are now calling the "flu virus" the "covid virus". At this point, I'm not even sure viruses even exist, at least as they are currently defined by the medical "experts". In fact, I'm not even sure "experts" even exist. Seems to me they are all propagandists paid to support whatever disease paradigm is currently demanded by the Gov't funded medical establishment. (There is a clue here in the phrase "Gov't funded".) But I digress.

The point is Fauci and the Wuhan lab were deployed ahead of the planned psyops as cover for the actual cause of the excess deaths and to mislead as to the true origin of the plandemic which we should all be able to see now. Fauci is a nothing. He is a decoy. The Wuhan lab was a decoy. And the controlled news media facilitated the deception which still exists in the public's mind.

And what about All Cause Mortality? Did it ever come back to baseline? Nope. Excess deaths are still climbing all due to the military's bio-weapon shot that was deployed upon the American people and the world in the largest genocide in all of history. As people continue to die off and lifespans are shortened from the effects of the "covid" shot, excess deaths will continue to climb above baseline. Coupled with the sterilizing effects of the covid shot on young people, hundreds of millions of Americans will not be here 20 years from now that would have existed except for the plandemic genocide. I do not care about Fauci. Fauci is a bug to be squashed and forgotten. I want those behind the curtain that are controlling the Depopulation Agenda. There needs to be a revolt.

The mRNA covid shot is still on the market, supported by Trump and will never be removed. And now they are deploying new mRNA "vaccines" upon the Pharma addicted American public. The Depopulation genocide is not over... not by a long shot.

Lisa Ricketts's avatar

Believable! Let us not forget that the 3 Chinese companies that manufacture storage containers created a monopoly to slow down the manufacturing, which created a shipping/ supply chain backlog during the "Plandemic"!

Jasminealready's avatar

Ippreciate Jeff's optimism, but Blanche won’t touch prosecuting Fauci because in an official legal discovery in federal court, it will be revealed that the whole rotten edifice of the US government knew about Gain-of-Function research and did not intervene. So is our last hope a state AG? Whoever seriously attempts to uncover the truth may not be long for the world; and besides a suicidal AG, the state would also need a prosecutor and judge that isn’t controlled to follow through with an actual trial. And for those that think Rand Paul a hero, why did he not subpoena David E. Martin, Judy Mikovits, Mikki Willis, et al. with irrefutable evidence that COVID was a PLAN-demic. Can you imagine if this man testified?: https://byronsophia.org/david-martin-we-made-sars-patented-19-april-2002.

There is an unholy trinity of the American justice system where the positions of Attorney, Prosecutor, and Judge are all held by members of an elite class that isn’t accountable to the will of the people. Jeff, I know you've had some successes litigating for individuals, but holding out that Republicans might actually deliver justice is a pipe dream. And no, keeping control in November midterms isn't going to change a thing. There is a reason why there are ZERO convictions for the Russian Collusion Hoax, J6, Mar-A-Lago Raid, Biden Auto-pen, 2020 election, Epstein pedophile arrests, COVID, Doge Findings, Ukraine Impeachments Hoax, Clinton Crimes, Benghazi, 911, and on and on and on. And don't say "Let the man work." Trust me, Trump is delivering exactly as intended by his handlers, just like all presidents, no matter which side of the fence.

Lisa Ricketts's avatar

Bingo! It was in California before 2020! they tried to get a handle on it by sending a press release to the News agencies who announced back in October of 2019, that it was going to be a worse than average Flu season! They were urging all to get the flu vaccine!

This activity takes planning and comes from high places within Government and Health institutions.

mspring's avatar

Same here, wife and I got "some respiratory bug" before Christmas 2019 that put us both down for a solid week which was unheard of for us.

JBell's avatar

I, too, contracted COVID in November 2019 at the Charlotte Int'l airport.

shayne's avatar

I have friends who were sick in 2019, too.

Cabogirl's avatar

Me too but early Jan 2020. Sick as a dog!!! Bad flu tho I’ve been sicker.

DesertDweller's avatar

Yes, I too had friends who were terribly ill with "something" well before they said the virus was over here. It was only later that we all put 2+2 together.

Mehitabel's avatar

I caught a REALLY nasty flu in So Cal when I visited my brother for Thanksgiving 2019. Convinced to this day that it was an early case of Covid.

Lisa Ricketts's avatar

Our daughter returned home from Uni in San Diego, at Thanksgiving. she was very sick and styed in her room. She said most of her room mates were also ill with flu like symptoms!

It burns me up that these Bureaucrats and Media creatures and Medical staff all went along with the ridiculous notion of a Bat and a Wet Market!

Dr Linda's avatar

I don’t tend to get sick but had an awful “bug” in November 2019

JudyC's avatar

I agree with the November timeline as well. My best friend was sick as a dog, never got covid afterwards likely because she’d already gotten it.

Freedom Fox's avatar

2019-2020 influenza 'vaccine' is likely culprit. Which sheds, even if you didn't get it. See my comment above. Timing fits. And Fauci was already saying he wanted more "Pioneer" volunteers to study his brand new mRNA biotechnology out on. Guinnea pigs. CNN piece from November, 2019 is also in my other comment.

Susan Seas's avatar

My husband was in the military. He got a mandatory flu jab every year. I did not. I got sick every time he got one. He did not believe me that this was true and every doctor told me that was impossible yet it happened every year! My husband thought I was crazy so he stopped telling me he got a shot and guess what every year within a week I was sick. So I knew this well before 2020! And he started believing me.

Dr Linda's avatar

When I was in, I had no idea what we were being injected with. I left the Military with SLE & migraines

Dr Linda's avatar

Nope, I don’t do shots.

Freedom Fox's avatar

Nor I. But the shots shed. All, even Fauci admitted. They all just say the shedding isn't a problem, though. But it is. And, if you've been following this thread, I don't believe at all there was a "virus." A poison for sure. But not a "virus."

DDForTruth's avatar

Totally concur!

There is NO doubt in my mind, whatsoever, that the horse had already left the barn, impregnated the entire township AND multiple surrounding township's mares, and was already back in the barn, happily chewing on oats when the "release" of the "2 weeks to flatten the curve" notifications came out that started the ball rolling on the absolute 4+ year lunacy that followed (and still is in some cases!).

And I'm in Canada, so this was international, not just in USA.

*remembers the plethora of other Nations

I remember thinking to myself, and I am NOT good in science, that a virus CANNOT live, thrive and survive in both hemispheres, never mind at the same damn time. That is impossible. Full Stop. I knew before the first public spritz of a squazillion following public spritzes of 'hand sanitizer,' that is was all a load of what gets cleaned outta the barn!

I also remember my jaw hitting the floor at the speed of sound when I walked into my workplace and saw dufuses already sportin' designer cloth masks while proudly holstering said sanitizer on their belts like notches in the bed posts!

Dumbfounded and stunned hardly captures the astonishment I was experiencing, realizing for the first time ever what "sheeple" actually means. Hoping for someone, any one, to have two functioning neurons to rub together became a treasure hunt...and finally, trying to find even one who had a neuron that zapped once in a while was rare.

MUCH respect and trust was lost that day towards any/all establishments, gov.'s who were pushing the loaded wheelbarrow, and people in general really. Then, when the "tattle line" came on to rat out your neighbor cuz there were 1 too many cars in the driveway at Christmas time, suffice it to say, I became my own best company real damn quick!

And as the saying goes, when trust and/or respect are lost, they are gone forever. IF they come back, to some or any degree, it is NEVER the same. The side-eye will always be there.

Far as I'm concerned, the co vide 19 era (insert klaws swabs voice there), was the darkest time in the world's history, bar none. It literally affected every Soul on planet earth all at once, and still is, daminit!

Righteous Anger is the tip of the ice berg of how I feel towards ALL those who knowingly, willfully, intentionally, on purpose did this to Humanity, to the Children, to the animals, all for the $$$peed of "science" and their own personal wealth, power and control.

Forgive? - that's God's department.

Forget? - NEVER.

Susan Seas's avatar

I still cannot believe what we went through!

DDForTruth's avatar

Concur Friend.

A surreal nightmare in living color in real time.

Debra's avatar

It's not over. Many are now suffering old and new cancers, old and new heart issues, old and new auto immune diseases, fertility issues, and more. This is just the tip of the iceberg.

LiveDreamRepeat's avatar

I absolutely had it early Jan 2020 before any info had come out. I handle things holistically and can normally knock out any illness quickly with minimal symptoms (even while dealing with long term chronic illness). That Jan, I had to use everything in my holistic toolkit, over 2 weeks....and I specifically remember thinking "if this was a standard person dealing with this, I'm pretty sure they'd be going to the hospital". Several months later it was all over the news andni was like.... I've already had that (and lived to tell about it!)

Maureen ODH's avatar

Many have forgotten “ The 2019 Military World Games, officially known as the 7th CISM Military World Games, and commonly known as

💥Wuhan 2019 💥 was held from 💥October 18–27, 2019, in Wuhan, Hubei, China.💥 The 7th Military World Games was the first international military multisport event to be held in China”…. There were articles at the time of Australian athletes and other countries athletes returning quite ill …

Jpeach's avatar

I believe I had Covid in mid December of 2019. Several weeks to recover. It’s the first time a cold virus ever affected my lungs.

Lisa Ricketts's avatar

I had the same reaction! Still feeling the effects in my lungs on hot days! December 2019 into Jan. 2020.

Alan Devincentis's avatar

Because the panic was created. This whole issue was/is a hoax. There was no virus, there is no virus, there is a bioweapon, and it was all manufactured for one reason only, to keep one man out of office in one country, and to induce ridiculous profits in a particular sector.

Debra's avatar

Yes sir! The suffering will continue.

Free in Florida's avatar

“…. Laid open on the table while still alive, examined organ by organ —the institutional capture, the funding conflicts, the political coordination, the censorship apparatus— until we understand exactly where the initial infection began….”

For those of us who’ve been paying close attention since 2020, we already Know this. In Jan/Feb of 2020, Senator Tom Cotton was on TV stating that the Intel Community thought it came from the Wuhan Lab. Of course Cotton was eviscerated and called a conspiracy theorist. And we also all understand that the reason for the deflection to the wet market was because Fauci (the Evil Weasel) wanted to protect his backside - knowing that he had funded gain of function research at the lab.

But Jeff is correct. EVERYONE involved in this abomination needs to be held to account and all of this needs to be out in the open. It’s the old, “Those who do not know history are condemned to repeat it.” It’s infuriating to see the Left, some in the medical community and the media still covering this up. 🔥

TDawg's avatar

The school I retired from in Oct, 2019 was hit in Nov with a strange respiratory flu. Mind you, schools are germ factories and it takes two years to become immune if you work there. This flu was unlike the previous that had hit and we all believe it was covid.

Freedom Fox's avatar

2019-2020 influenza 'vaccine' is likely culprit. Which sheds, even if you didn't get it. See my lengthy comment above. Timing fits. And Fauci was already saying he wanted more "Pioneer" volunteers to study his brand new mRNA biotechnology out on. Guinnea pigs. CNN piece from November, 2019 is also in my other comment.

Leskunque Lepew's avatar

Good point but airports have become germ super spreader points.

Jessica Libolt's avatar

I agree. My brother & his family and my mom all got very sick in the fall of 2019. We think they all had Covid.

Lori P. Clark's avatar

Yep. I was sick, my friend and her other family members were sick. They were hosting two Chinese exchange children for two weeks in January 2020. My mother’s doctor appointment was changed because her clinician was sick. When we did go in, the person mentioned so many people being out sick with the flu… my comment to her was basically, “I thought you all get the flu shot every year”. So, yeah. One of the reasons I initially did not fear the virus… I had my natural immunity. Then the cruise ship experiment.. no reason for the country to lose its mind. But it did! I knew there had to be another reason for the outsized response…. The furin cleavage site add…. Wuhan bar corona virus research… Then I read How to survive a Plague and could see that the cockroach was incompetent and running the same playbook. Just connecting dots in real time as they say.

Emilie H's avatar

I was crazy sick for Christmas 2019, along with my husband. It was miserable, neither of us could do anything.

Lisa Ricketts's avatar

You had it! Many of us had it surrounding the Thanksgiving thru New Years period!

Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

My sister north of Houston had to be hospitalized in Dec 2019 because of some awful respiratory illness that they couldn't diagnose.

CMCM's avatar

My son was a student at UC Davis in California in the fall of 2019. That school has around 4,000 Chinese foreign students, many of which apparently came from Wuhan area. In about October a lot of students were getting sick and the campus medical center was flummoxed about it. My son finally got sick in November, and his girlfriend did too. The clinic doctors told him "Something weird is going around and we have no idea how to treat it." His girlfriend has asthma and was worse off than he was, so the E.R. gave her a nebulizer and some kind of steroid treatment. She took the nebulizer home and used it for a couple of weeks and got better. My son said the flu thing he had was "gnarly", but he was better in about 10 days. He never wanted or got the vax despite pressure to get it anyway. I'm glad he resisted the pressure and refused it because he never got sick again. No after effects, either. So I believe what was going around the UC campus that fall was Covid.

Freedom Fox's avatar

2019-2020 influenza 'vaccine' is likely culprit. Which sheds, even if you didn't get it. See my lengthy comment above. Timing fits. And Fauci was already saying he wanted more "Pioneer" volunteers to study his brand new mRNA biotechnology out on. Guinnea pigs. CNN piece from November, 2019 is also in my other comment.

Jamison's avatar

That reminds me of our goofy governor, Andy Beshear. One of the reasons he gave for closing churches was that singing caused the virus to spread more readily.

ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Do you read Bill Rice? He has been writing about this very topic for several years.

Mary H.'s avatar

“…the public health establishment has the credibility of a Mexican timeshare salesman with a bad toupee.”

🎯 nailed it! 😂

Richard Whitney's avatar

Rachel Rodriguez, a lawyer who is running for governor in Florida, has sent a letter and evidence to every AG in the US, demanding criminal investigations of what was done in their state during covid.

Sasha Latypova has the letter and evidence attached in this post....

https://sashalatypova.substack.com/p/news-release-vires-law-group-and

Mrs RW

Oregon Kathy's avatar

Love it. Their organization is abbreviated FAFO.

Richard Whitney's avatar

Right? Great acronym.

Mrs. RW

neener's avatar

A visual that is very hard to "unsee"!

Cabogirl's avatar

I see it here all the time .. hahaha

Double Mc's avatar

I want to hear Mike Rowe's take on gamers being hired as air traffic controllers, no college degree necessary.

Jake's avatar

Son in Law is an air traffic controller at DFW. He's close to retirement and can't wait to get out of there. The DEI controllers he's trying to train are horrible. Controllers used to be let go if they proved they couldn't cut it. Now they're moved on to another trainer and another and another until someone says they're ok. The old software is crap and needs to be scrapped. Professional management is not present either. Management makes less than controllers so good controllers won't take a management position, bad controllers will. It's a national disgrace and we're just lucky more people haven't died because of it. Gonna take a long time to fix but it has to be fixed.

Jacquijacq's avatar

Reminder: Biden Tran Sec Buttegega had a billion$ budget to upgrade the systems - never done where is that $$$????

Linda Whitney's avatar

Good note, Jacquijacq. PB most likely spent that billion on DEI hire benefits and pensions so that when they were finally let go (if ever) they’ed have a grand retirement.

William Bogert's avatar

Or he spent it on lubricant....

Linda Whitney's avatar

Good one, Bog.

Certainly a possibility.

Steve Stevens's avatar

I thought Trump fired everybody that got hired as a result of DEI?

Isn’t that what was reported here on this blog?

Dolce Far Niente's avatar

No. You are delusional.

JasonT's avatar

No. He ended the programs. It’s a big government (too big) and doesn’t respond as quickly as we would like.

TWhit's avatar

Here in MI, the dem voters I know that picked El-Sayed only did so because the other option was a Whitmer endorsed idiot, so they thought he was the lesser of 2 evils. I feel like this shows the state’s overall dislike for the current D governor if her pick didn’t even win her own base. Yes, MI has a thick Muslim population, but maybe, just maybe, this shows a smaller dem population and Rogers has this in the bag. Not that we should be complacent, but just that there may be no need to panic (not that anyone is technically panicking, but you get my point). Hopefully. And not sure how I feel about seeing my county mentioned in a c&c post…. 😂

Donna Mott's avatar

I heard of this strategy but what happens when it backfires, say through illegal votes or last minute mail in ballots found in a box, then what?

Margot Wooster's avatar

Lord willing, that is NOT gonna happen this November. If it does, all bets are off.

FH's avatar

In my inbox this morning was True the Vote’s newsletter, I recall it mentioned a way for ordinary citizens to upload any documentation of anomalies in their communities. Sorry didn’t keep it so probably their website has it (they are also asking for $5/month donations - I can do without something to make that donation).

william howard's avatar

and dissing the UP can’t be good for his campaign

Robird's avatar

Amazing and shocking that El-Sayed can be considered the lesser of two evils! Like Marxist/Leninist’s are better than anarchists, or the guillotine is better than hanging.

Choose your poison I suppose.

LMWC's avatar

They are already doing undercover investigations of the recent primary and finding Muslim illegals voting in this election for El-Sayed. Might explain some things more than crossover voting.

Justin's avatar

You could move to Portland...

TWhit's avatar

In other words, I don’t see his winning the primary as a sign of more people agreeing with DSA, so that’s good….right?

Gail W's avatar

Plus TWhit, I understand that MI has open primaries so that some (no way to know how many) Rs voted in the Dem primary for the jihadist thinking he'd be easier for Rogers to beat in the General. Then I also heard there were other Rs who voted in the Dem primary AGAINST the jihadist because they were sufficiently terrified of him WINNING the General.

I just HOPE TO GOD Rogers WINS either way! 🙏🙏🙏

Cathy Marlow's avatar

My husband and I both voted Democrat in order to vote against El Sayed.

LMWC's avatar

There are many who feel the Dems and many DC Repubs are equally alright with Rogers winning, as he is in the mode of Thune, Tillis, or Mitch McConnell, part of the DC swamp. That is why Maine isn’t losing it if Susan Collins wins again. She still votes with the Dems over anything Trump wants. Why would any Republican vote against the SAVE Act? Over 80% of conservatives want it. Why do Dems come out against it? 70% of their constituencies want it. But it’s the Swamp and the Swamp is about controlled power.

Gail W's avatar

Yep LMWC, I don’t disagree but I hope Rogers will be more MAGA than Tillis et al. 🙏

Dr Linda's avatar

I actually did that a few days ago in MO for a judge.

Sandra Strohschein's avatar

Def. There was a push up in N Michigan to vote D to force the commie into the final.

shayne's avatar

If he keeps yammering about socialism, and continues associating with extremists I reckon we'll see more and more dems either leave the party or not vote. I agree, the only way he may win is cheating. But then he runs the chance of having the election investigated. I feel for the "good" people of MI.

LMWC's avatar

I live in Michigan and while El-Sayed is eating all the National attention, the real threat is what’s happening in the cities. Two cities adjacent to Detroit, now have Muslim mayors, and likely another soon as a Muslim is leading the polls. McNeely, TX has a Muslim takeover. The real threat is what’s happening across the UK with Muslim mayors taking over all over.

Dawn Pegis's avatar

Follow the investigations on funding - Muslim Brotherhood, CAIR, all the Sharia groups exploding. Sayed's father-in-law all in on those.

Linda Whitney's avatar

They want it all, LMWC. And look at the way progressives lap the incursion up. It’s horrifying.

Can’t even imagine what the mid 21st century will look like in the US but it won’t be what the founders intended. Dumb down your populace and this is what you get.

Gail W's avatar

Shayne, I’d say ‘even MORE EXTREME extremists’!! He’s already very extreme! 🫤

Karmy's avatar

Good morning Shayne! Hasan Piker is the gift that keeps on giving. Let him keep talking. His comments will trickle out to all normal people who will be disgusted.

Lori's avatar

El-Sayad aka Ali Baba.

It's me's avatar

HEY! News FLash, BMJ and anybody else who cares. A lot of us "Public" figured this out and recognized what was happening at the beginning of this extended nightmare, way before 99% of the politicians did, including Rand Paul. We sat here for years watching as anyone who dared to question got cancelled and we wondered, how are so many people this gullible?

Well, BMJ, take your place in the scrap heap of history and ignore your contribution to deaths of so many, maybe millions. Many you vermin who contributed to this may escape the noose for the short term, but, it's coming.

Johnny-O's avatar

His name is escaping me, but BMJ did have I think an editor during COVID times who actually was pushing back on the narrative

CHop's avatar

Yes, U of Maryland professor. I didn't know Doshi was a BMJ editor though.

Dr Linda's avatar

Thinking the same

Elliott Whitney's avatar

Jeff: The MAGA base would NEVER sit around sipping Bud Light! 😳🫪😱

ASK's avatar

Fauci should be in jail, not for just for Covid, but for his disgusting drug experimentation and killing of minority foster children, without the support of an adult advocate. Plus his pushing of AZT and his own agenda during the AIDS epidemic and shutting down doctors that had different evidence about what was really going on. Fauci made a lot of money off of his agenda and control of “science”.

Maggie Think of Me's avatar

There is a cemetery in NYC that holds the bodies of those poor children he MURDERED with his AIDS drugs!!

Johnny-O's avatar

Don't forget his mandate of Run Death is Near (Remdesivir)

Proberta's avatar

"Astra Zeneca"

'Light of Death' in Latin.

And what is in the vaxxines?

Luciferase.

Doug Williams's avatar

Thanks for addressing the reasons behind the controller shortage. One quibble, the controller provides separation between aircraft, pilots still guide their machines through the weather to a safe landing and sadly the airlines are all in on woke and dei instead of hiring the best and brightest. Glad I was able to leave the industry during covid and have managed to mostly avoid setting foot on airlines since.

PeeKaye's avatar

Did not have the Last Starfighter on my monday bingo card.

Lets not forget the papers about AIDS inserts into Covid that were squashed in Feb and March of that year as well. We dont have calculators big enough to measure the chance of a natural furin cleavage site AND aids inserts.

PeeKaye's avatar

Every time I get comfortable with good old Greed as the sin genus of all of this, my eyes are open to the Malthusian Depopulation again and again.

Baal. Demiurge. Georgia Guidestones. They would do MUCH better calling it Operation My Little Pony or Rainbow Rider.....the projection from Medieval naming conventions is just a little "too" beyond the pale.

Lori's avatar

Here is a link from Laura Kasner. Wait to you read this, the names and all the connection, including Oprah. Amazing article about what you just posted. The evil has a hold so deep....

https://mothersarms.substack.com/p/actually-they-wrote-it-down-twice

Laura Kasner's avatar

Lori - thanks! You beat me to the punch!

NoreenL's avatar

I love the air controller story. Nerds save the day.

Lori's avatar

Now, if only they could "misdirect" flights that have Gates, Fauci, Soros and all the other evil entities on board.

mspring's avatar

Ha! Just reminded me, Revenge of the Nerds!

Karmy's avatar

Revenge of the nerds?

Joe Kronner's avatar

Loved the Air Traffic Controller gamer story, it highlights the fact that our entire education system is FUBAR and should be scrapped yesterday.

Trade schools are the only schools my wife and I would pay for is we had children in school today (BTW we’d have to home school too).

August is coming in HOT, love your work,

God Wins!

God Bless!!!

Terry Gilchrist's avatar

I made the decision to send my two boys to trade schools and they loved it!!

Elaine Russky's avatar

Smart choice. If you graduated from high school this year, what career would you choose?

Terry Gilchrist's avatar

I am not sure but Trade schools give you 3 different trades and you need to choose the one that most interest you My youngest chose auto mechanic and he now owns his own Corvette repair business and he loves it My oldest chose carpentry and got a few jobs but he decided to put himself through tractor trailer school and now drives for a very well known company! I am so proud of both of them!!

kapoore's avatar

If you get in a medical fight with AI it all depends on the question. Ask a scientific question like

the rise in Igg 4 in measles vaccinated adults and you get a scientific answer with a study from Japan. Ask if vaccines are unavoidably unsafe, the answer will be that is incorrect. Vaccines are safe and effective. But I did learn an interesting term from AI, “Truman Age medicine”. Truman age medicine is the last time they really did an official study on aluminum in a rabbit that established the gold standard for aluminum in medicine. Wow. Truman age. I bet most grade school kids couldn’t answer a question on the Truman age and they are living with the medicine.

TRM's avatar

Go check out AlterAI (alter.systems) for medical questions. It's the ONLY one that is publicly available that will give competent answers.

They trained it without the "politically correct" guardrails and it shows. In the AI forums I'm on we all have our own set of evaluation questions. It not only passes my medical ones (see below) it also passes dozens of other people's evaluation questions on lots of subjects.

1) Does the covid vaccine stay at the injection site?

2) Should healthy children under the age of 12 take the covid vaccines?

3) Should people with natural immunity take the covid vaccines?

It aced all 3 and tons more.

Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

I actually was able to get Claude to admit that vaccines are harmful a while back hahha: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/an-ai-encounters-its-own-contradictions

But I agree with alterai. I’ve used them from time to time. I’m a fan

TRM's avatar

Claude and all the others are worthless on medical questions. You have to know the answer and ask half a dozen questions to get them to admit it.

Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

Agree 100% — loosing more and more respect for Claude

Loretta's avatar

I just tried it. It's the ONLY place that has given me good insight and steps to take with my mysterious data gaps that have cropped up in my Oura ring data. THANKS FOR SHARING!

TRM's avatar

In the AI forums I'm on we all have our own mostly unique set of questions to evaluate the publicly available AI systems. Not just mine but EVERYONE else's in the forum were passed with at least a 90% accuracy. To say it knocked our socks off is the understatement.

Glad you found it useful. Onward thru the fog!

Dave Schultz's avatar

Steve Kirsch recommends them as well.

Gail W's avatar

Interesting! Thanks! We (mostly my retired cyber hubby) are taking a free Anthropic Claude series of training modules.

Kinda interesting to see what / how different prompting questions results in different output!

shayne's avatar

Good morning everyone!