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Jeff C's avatar

Just a thought, obviously Sowell is a smart guy but the way conservatives lavish praise on him seems a bit over the top. I've always suspected it's a subconscious form of virtue signaling, "see our hero is a black guy so we can't possibly be racists".

Conservatives have been so mind-manipulated by the media as racists, for decades and decades, that we unconsciously fall all over ourselves to praise black people that happen to think like us. How many white economists can conservatives quote? Not many I suspect.

People need to break out of this mental prison.

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Antidisinfotarian's avatar

Senator John Kennedy: “My experience with economists in Washington is that for every economist there is an equal and opposite economist, and they’re both usually wrong.” Another time, he remarked that economic forecasting in Washington “makes those late-night psychic hotlines look respectable.”

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KBB's avatar

That man sure can turn a phrase!

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Peace's avatar

I love Senator John Kennedy's brain - so clever!

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Shelle's avatar

You've made a point I'll take time to consider as it's a new perspective for me. I'm not particularly knowledgeable about Sowell, but there are other black conservatives I especially appreciate and I never looked at it this way. So I really will think about what you've said.

However, there are other reasons besides race for people to love someone like Sowell. It's the same reason I love certain of the medical freedom heros who spoke up for us all during covid. It took so. much. courage. I respect that and can never forget it. I've even called them heros just now and it's obviously nothing race related.

So, back to black conservatives. They get the harshest criticism from the left. Stuff that makes me very angry. They get criticized by leftist whites for being too white and everyday uninformed democrat blacks call them traitors in various slang terms. I've watched in shock media videos of the abuse they get. The reason it's shocking to me is that I see the left say they are "anti racist," but they will say far more racist, abusive things about a black conservative than a white one. It's the same strategy as the left used against doctors who spoke against vaccine mandates or advocated for vaccine injured people. Immediately they pulled out every weapon to take these guys out so others would learn from it and be afraid.

They don't want there to be such a thing as a black conservative, so it is making oneself a target to be one. How could we not admire that kind of courage? So I think we instinctively admire a smart black conservative who took all these arrows and kept on going. They are doing for black people what medical freedom heros did for other medical practitioners: making it okay to speak up, showing it can be done. We see and respect that.

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Free in Florida's avatar

It’s not virtue signaling and has nothing to do with race. Read “The Thomas Sowell Reader” and you’ll understand the measure of the man. He’s a national treasure.

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Jeff C's avatar

Lol, a national treasure. Your own language is exactly the over the top praise I mentioned, you couldn't have made my point more strongly if intended. He's a very smart guy and a deep thinker, but so are about 100,000 other Americans.

I knew people wouldn't be able to process this intellectually and would react emotionally, but it's important people at least consider a few things:

1) Thomas Sowell is intelligent and erudite but he's hardly an oracle. Plenty of just as smart and erudite people take issue with many of his conclusions.

2) Conservatives have been called racists for so long they feel compelled to prove otherwise. Whether it's elevating smart black people to superhuman status, or excusing the behavior of minority criminals, it's done from a position of defensiveness. People don't even realize they are doing it.

The media has so mind-raped people that they cannot make objective evaluations but feel constantly compelled to prove to the world that they aren't what the media says. This makes them mental slaves as they can't think independently and objectively.

Just look at the fuss caused by me merely suggesting Sowell isn't the end all be all that people make him out to be. Doesn't that suggest they are reacting emotionally rather than from a reasoned opinion?

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daverkb's avatar

I've noticed this too. And if there ever was a real pandemic in America, it's the pandemic rise in inability to think.

The 'education system' in America long ago abandoned teaching people the basics of how to think precisely because they the master class did not want people thinking. But the unintended consequence of this design is that the so-called leadership class also largely lost the ability to think, and this in inverse proportion to the rise of ideology.

I noticed, for example, that each succeeding generation of the Bush family was dumber than the preceding one. And I read that elite preparatory school were truncating vocabulary under the utilitarian assumption that too rich a vocabulary hindered the ruling class in communicating with the Great Unwashed. And so the aim was no longer a drive to excellence, but the cultivation of mediocrity.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

"each succeeding generation of the Bush family was dumber than the preceding one."

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Free in Florida's avatar

Jeff C - you’re trying waaaaay too hard. Talk about emotional… Just sayin’. Although with your comment “can’t think independently and objectively”, I suspect you’re only interested in stirring up trouble here. In any case, I’ll move on to someone who’s serious.

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Wendy Lemmel's avatar

He is could be considered a national treasure simply for the topics he has been prepared to tackle through the years and the insights he has opened into our culture, immigration, the effect of pandering to race etc - all national obsessions.

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Jeff C's avatar

No, I'm just saying things that you've never considered and it's causing cognitive dissonance.

You've been told by the Left your entire life that 1) racism is the unpardonable sin and 2) conservatives are racists. Because you unthinkingly accepted #1, you feel compelled to prove #2 is untrue. This is what leads you to make absurd statements like "Thomas Sowell is a national treasure". You do it without even realizing it (hence the cognitive dissonance). Yeah he's a smart guy, but come on.

There is nothing wrong with making observations regarding group behavior and dynamics. It's not "racism" but God-given pattern recognition. It's an objective fact that Asians dominate university admissions and Blacks dominate violent crime stats, you are allowed to notice it and it's not random chance. But this has been weaponized against you as a member of the country's dominant ethnic group (i.e. white Christians). Not only are you not allowed to notice group differences, but at the same time you must feel guilty about them as having caused it and pay restitution. That's why I say people have been mind-raped, people accept without even thinking about the absurdity of it.

When Jeffrey Dahmer was asked why almost all his victims were minorities, he replied with although he was a murderer and a cannibal, he wasn't a racist. In his mind, being a racist was the worse thing possible, sure he killed people and ate them, but he ignored their skin color as (God forbid) he wasn't a racist, that would be awful.

This is the mindset most conservatives are trapped in, which is why they fall all over themselves praising accomplished Blacks (Sowell, Colin Powell, Walter Williams, etc.). They accept the Left's framing and defensively try to refute it without thinking. They make ridiculous statements like, "Liberals are the real racists" without even realizing they are reinforcing the Left's disingenuous premise.

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Free in Florida's avatar

Jeff - Again, you’re trying way too hard on this. You have No idea who I am or how I make decisions or why I think what I think. And your pronouncements such as “making absurd statements” is, in itself, absurd. I really find all of this really obnoxious. I won’t engage with you again.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Jeff C is a maggot... and not fit to lick Sowell's boots...

that's quite a statement... I am not much of a fan of negroids in general.

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Wendy Lemmel's avatar

Thomas Sowell is still alive and writing at 94 years old.

Jeff C appears to be alive as he is writing but what he writes may be caused by brain death.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

LOL!! Yes, Jeff is a roach, with a brain as dead as his breath...

I really thought I had read that Sowell had died... I don't ever see him on the tube and I used to see him fairly often... I have great respect for the guy... while despising the BLM and NAACP scum, and the pathetic "reparations" beggar parasites...

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Jeff C's avatar

Again, what have you accomplished in life other than shooting your mouth off?

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Why are you interested, Pee Wee? You don't get enough action at the local bath house?

Your comments betray your low intellect and gender confusion... did your daddy make you do bad things?

Why do you post so much... do you not realize that you are widely despised and thought of as an ignorant clown eunuch?

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Lynn46's avatar

I learned a lot from Milton Friedman when Phil Donahue had him on his show decades ago. It was a great series.

Would love to find it and watch again.

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Wendy Lemmel's avatar

I think you are confusing conservatives with Democrats! Have you read any of Sowell’s books?

He is reacting here like an establishment economist interested in the lowest costs for the customer.

We don’t have to be in lockstep you know. It is possible to have dissenting opinions without being thrown out of the party.

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

Sowell, to my knowledge, isn't even conservative, is he? I always got the impression he's sort of a conservative-leaning centrist or independent.

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