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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

- Short answer for all the kids out there: The Establishment preys on human weakness. Don't carry a balance over to the next cycle. Reign in your spending. Pay it all off every month. Trust me...you don't need the latest iPhone just because it can check your tire pressure in 3D and whip up a mint frappe. Aside from that, the last thing you need is the mind numbing impact of a more immersive propaganda experience.

- "Turbo Cancer" entered the fray even faster than SIDS. I'm sure it's a coincidence. It's a "small price to pay" as we find these things out together....well, not all of us. I think I'll just take a pass and find out later...."winter of severe illness and death" be damned. I'm on my 5th....or is it 6th?

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

One big coincidence. Ironically, we also have “SADS”—for adults.

If we look at SIDS and see how it’s tied to the vaccines, we may see something there: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/how-sids-became-the-perfect-cover

But I’m sure it’s one big coincidence 🤦‍♂️

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Melissa S's avatar

Yes! Let's all repeat the mantra 3 times: "Correlation does not mean Causation". Turn off that brain. Just be assured that $CIENCE has it all under control. Don't worry your pretty little head. All the people dying of turbo cancer? Strokes? Heart Attacks? Blood Clots? Just Coincidence. Whew! Now we can go on with our day. But maybe stop by Walgreens for a booster jab....

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The Great Resist's avatar

My new “mantra” is what Jeff has said multiple times: “Correlation may not be PROOF of causation, but it IS evidence.” (And you don’t have causation WITHOUT correlation.)

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Freedom Fox's avatar

When does it become actionable? Unless there are consequences, legal and monetary, nothing will be done, no lessons will be learned, it *will* be repeated. Just awarding ourselves debate champion medals changes nothing, even if the audience applauding our achievement grows.

To wit. The UK released its inquiry into the plandemic, it's after-action report in November of 2025:

https://covid19.public-inquiry.uk/documents/module-2-full-report/

This Propaganda in Focus article breaks down the report for those who don't have the time, bandwidth to read it in full:

https://propagandainfocus.com/the-uk-covid-inquiry-propaganda-to-protect-the-pandemic-narrative/

The UK and US plandemic response were mirrors of each other. High levels of coordination, cross-pollenization of advisory groups, narrative setting, protocols, etc. Whatever the UK is reporting is *exactly* what the US cohorts say, also believe...or wish to continue to perpetuate. They assert they vaccinated themselves out of the plandemic. And that all of the totalitarian mandates were warranted, justified, effective. Only quibble being they were applied too late and ended too soon. Which just so happens to be what two of their leading plandemic leaders said when they left the UK's plandemic advisory groups and were brought into the World Health Organization to lead global plandemic responses in the future. One being "Stalin's Nanny" Susan Michie, now Chief Behavioural Scientist. the other being Fauci's BFF Jeremy Farrar, former head of Wellcome Trust (a Gates Foundation cohort, offshoot of Glaxo-Wellcome founders) who rage quit the plandemic advisory group because it wasn't totalitarian enough, now WHO's Chief Scientist.

The findings of the UK's after-action review fits with the assessments of those two. And with what most US health leaders believe, assert, too.

These horrible, wicked, murderous people have faced zero consequences, no actors have paid any penalties for their crimes. And simply revealing how bad the jabs were, ginning up outrage, deserved hits to credibility alone won't mean diddly-squat. Those who committed these crimes have been promoted, given greater responsibility. And the fact that they embrace heavy-handed totalitarian plandemic responses means they won't care that we, the people will protest them. They are committed to clenched-fist, Stalinist control of populations. Censorship just one of their weapons. The imprisonment of people for impolite speech, opposition to their authority is practice for what they will do next time to people who refuse to mask, refuse to jab, refuse to quarantine, refuse to submit.

In the US, as well. Whatever slips through their clenched fists will be squashed by the AI cameras and data centers being built around us. If we take solace, claim victory because the truth has come out to a limited hangout we will be crushed. We must crush them first. With accountability. Legal and financial. This study must be acted on by those with power today. Exhibit A in the trials and penalties for those who committed the crimes.

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John of Oregon Fame's avatar

YES, Freedom Fox. Well said.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

And....the plural of anecdote is data.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

The same people who will dismiss anecdotes of vaccine injury are those who claim they have not been sick for six years because they wore a mask. —And this banana in my ear kept all the alligators off Peachtree Street.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

That’s a good one—thanks!

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David Nelson's avatar

@TGR, THAT should be the new motto for the 250th Anniversary: "NO CAUSATION WITHOUT CORRELATION!"

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The Great Resist's avatar

I’m not quite sure what it means, but I like it! 😃👍

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David Nelson's avatar

Actually, me neither, but trying to channel "NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!"

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Truth Seeker's avatar

Evidence is useful when properly filed.

Assuming the librarian can accurately assess the information.

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Freebird's avatar

This makes me think of friends who took the jab. Most of them live in a news vacuum anyway which means they have their heads in the sand; they only process snippets of information here and there. And since they lined up like lemmings to get the shot because it was what they were told to do by the “experts”, even IF they hear this information, they will brush it off in denial. They took the shot in good faith that it would protect them from the deadly virus, and now some idiot is saying that it may cause cancer, or heart disease, or blood clots, or early onset dementia, or a myriad of other illnesses…no way! In spite of the fact that they’ve seen a higher than usual number of people die in the past few years, they will continue to deny the ugly truth.

When Caroline Kennedy’s young daughter died from turbo cancer recently, I wondered if she thought…”if we’d only listened to Bobby”.

Probably not.

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Carol Brizzolara's avatar

Nope, I don’t think she thought that at all. As a matter of fact I do believe she died lamenting his position and saying how it would endanger everyone and then she pretty much banned him from her funeral services.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

Keep hammering. Science has nothing under control.

The best educated doing "peer review" exercise pay to play.

Has not been different in over 3 decades.

Shopping Costco yesterday, always walk by the Pharm to have a gander.

No signs up advertising any "shot". For the first time half of the Pharmacists

had no face diaper on. Times are a changing.

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SH's avatar

I don't know about that. I just got a notice to "mask up" for my rheumatologist appt next week, because of the "unprecedented flu" going around. They're trying really hard to amp up fear. Again.

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Marice Nelson's avatar

They do gin things up, but it would not be a wonder if if influenza and flu like illness is up in populations with immune function undermined by mRNA vaccines. People around me can’t stay well for long and some have newly developed autoimmune disorders. More of those people will get sick because they are on steroids and other immune suppressants

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Truth Seeker's avatar

of course, so... fire the rheum the way forward

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Patti's avatar

Progress!!! I shop at Albertsons and hear the overhead push for all vaccines still. I will listen more intently next time

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KBB's avatar

Well there is the inconvenient fact that every single person who confuses correlation with causation ends up dying.

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SH's avatar

Strange isn't it? Just like the cyber attacks that keep happening to this important study.

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David Nelson's avatar

But...

"So MUCH correlation! So LITTLE curiosity!"

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Ursula Gibson's avatar

Not only have people bought that mantra hook, line and sinker concerning the jabs, they’re unable to see the causative effects in other areas also.

Had sex and got pregnant? How can that be?!? “Correlation does not mean Causation”, don’t you know…?

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David Nelson's avatar

Maxed out your credit cards and STILL in debt?

Cut it twice and it's STILL too short?

Voted for communists and STILL feel stupid?

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Bitsy54's avatar

We KNOW the shots are associated with SIDS…https://deeprootsathome.com/sids-nearly-erradicated-by-doing-one-thing/

THEY just don’t want us to know, same sneaky stuff THEY do with Covid Crap

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Truth Seeker's avatar

We knew decades ago... The difference is the % of knowers has markedly increased.

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Mary Pat FitzGibbons's avatar

Thank you for including that article.

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Melissa S's avatar

From that article link: “Torch (1986) summarized case reports of more than 150 deaths, post-DPT immunization, which had been reported by 37 authors in 12 countries; approximately 50 percent of these deaths occurred within 24 hours, 75 percent within 72 hours, and 90 percent within 1 week following DPT administration.” Shocking and sickening.

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Jeff S's avatar

Yup, "one big coincidence."

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Fred's avatar

All the SADS are being misclassified, just like SIDS.

“The observation that the increase in the rates of non-SIDS causes of sudden unexpected infant death could account for >90% of the drop in the SIDS rates suggests that a change in classification may be occurring.”

https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article-abstract/115/5/1247/67529/Changes-in-the-Classification-of-Sudden-Unexpected?

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Mess with the codes and you can create any desired outcome. BTW, there is no ICD code for C19 shot injured, but over 20 for under- or unvaxxed.

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Tardigrade's avatar

What I could read of that article was using the word "infanticide" incorrectly.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

YEPPIR - see my "Comment" that I just shared today, Franklin - about a conversation I had yesterday with a dear friend!

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Terry Lee's avatar

Oh sure, all harm to humanity has always been through vaccines, its all lies, every bit of it, people are too lazy to ready history, too busy to put two plus two together, too busy trusting these government agencies who want you sick, stunning how many people ran to put toxic posions into their bodies and their children, our bodies are designed to take care of our health.. All these diseases are man made, designed to cause harm so big pharma can make more money..they all profit, CDC a private vaccine company..not a government agency, FDA designed to profit from chemical companies to posion your foods, water and skies and approve all medications that They control the testing process..might want to read Agenda 2030 from the UN about their plans for you..might want to do your research and quit trusting your government..

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Jules's avatar

I read the article you linked. You are the autor. I was always under the impression "infanticide" was murder of an infant, not the "death of an infant" as this article explains it.

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John Galt?'s avatar

It's amazing that as a teenage stoner I happened upon some sage advice on finance. I wish I could recall the author, but it was a newsletter (before the internet, of course) that cemented in my mind the principle that "debt is a pledge of future income". That's it. If you can leverage debt to do big things, good for you. Otherwise, debt should be seen as a "pledge" or "promise" based on future wages and earnings, which itself could be considered presumptuous. I learned early on to pay my cards in full every month and I paid off every auto and home loan ahead of schedule. Now I'm in a pretty decent position with no debt and ample reserves. In other words, all that hoo-hah about "Time Preference", where the penny-saved/penny-earned crowd deferred current desires in favor of future benefits turned out to be 100% true. And, wouldn't you know it, the whole time preference thing works for your health (exercise and diet for future benefits). Thank you Mr. Mises, Hayek, Hazlitt, Burkett, and Ramsey, and also that forgotten newsletter author that opened my eyes in the first place.

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rolandttg's avatar

That is why at age 50 when I lost my job, we were able to make it fine on just my wife's salary. Our last house (this one) and cars were all bought with cash. Footnote: When someone offered a car loan or one time a furniture loan at zero interest, we always took it. That's not usury. That's common sense.

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John Galt?'s avatar

Same here, I financed cars at low or no interest when I had the cash to buy them outright. To this day, I put tens of thousands of purchasing dollars on cash-back cards every month. It's free money. I suspect that'll dry up when the interest rates drop, but it's been a good ride.

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KBB's avatar

I too love cash-back cards. By carrying three cards and knowing which to use for what I save 6% on groceries, 5% on gas, 3% at restaurants, and 2% on everything else. I know lots of people who only use cash to keep from having their purchases tracked, and I can see the justification for that. But my purchases are so boring I doubt anybody would find that info valuable anyway, so I'll take the cash.

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LaNell Tew's avatar

We pay cash for ammunition and guns. Everything else is boring, stuff, like you said.

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rolandttg's avatar

Smart. I do too , and stopped buying on line. Credit cards started reporting that to govt a few years ago

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John Galt?'s avatar

It takes discipline, but it's an easy arbitrage. Just make sure to use autopay for every card. I pay my cards in full from an interest bearing savings account.

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MaryAnn's avatar

KBB: I use mine like the Christmas Club accounts of old. Makes the season debt free.

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John Galt?'s avatar

The hardest part is NOT spending the rewards, but saving it and continuing to use the CC to get even more rewards, lol.

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Penny North's avatar

I called zero interest loans “cash flow management.”

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John Galt?'s avatar

"Float Arbitrage" is one term for this

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Mr. Lynx Economicus's avatar

You said "When someone offered a car loan or one time a furniture loan at zero interest, we always took it. That's not usury. That's common sense. "

That is not the case at all. The majority of Americans no longer have the job stability to ensure they can make years worth of payments other than housing regardless of the interest rate. When one loses a job and either receives no unemployment insurance or a tiny fraction of past earnings and then must accept much lower pay, it the need to make a payment that strangles them.

The Department of Labor estimates that the average 30-something today has had over 14 jobs.

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rolandttg's avatar

I understand that. I know the working world has changed, and not for the better. The average 30 something also has a body covered in tattoos, the latest smart phone and apps. There are tens of thousands of 6 figure tradesmen jobs going begging, because young people today think working with their hands is beneath them. I've done shitty jobs all my life. I am 73 and have the money to pay people to weed my gardens, shovel my snow etc, but good luck finding someone who will do it. I never spent money I didn't have, or could not repay. The mess we have created is both a product of the vicious plundering by the cabals' financial vampires, and the indoctrination system and parents who taught their kids they are owed something and don't have to pay their dues.

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Jen W's avatar

It is interesting you say this. Our family has experienced the opposite. My sons weed gardens, shovel snow, etc. and are appreciative of the work and have quite the customer base. They would even love to work under a tradesman and learn the skill. But what we have found is that many local tradesmen/craftsmen advertise for entry level workers and apprentices but don't actually want to take the time to train and teach those who apply. Yet, we hear those same tradesmen complain that "nobody will do the work and they are too proud to do hard work". How can these skills be passed along if the experienced tradesmen simply blame the young people as being lazy? Could it be that the tradesmen not willing to share their knowledge are the selfish ones?

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rolandttg's avatar

Your family is an outlier from all I have seen and read. My wife and I picked up 143 tons of sandstone to build our stone house. When I started, the stone mason brought an 18 year old who had just moved here with his mom from PA. He had knocked up his girlfriend, and she said get to work. He mixed and carried mortar mainly, with some other jobs. Paid him $100 cash per day in 2003. He lasted two months. For the remainder of the job, I did what he had done because there was no one else willing to do it.

I will bet the tradesmen don't want to take on apprentices because they have been burned too many times from kids he came and went . They invested their time for nothing.

Trust me. These kids are lazy and spoiled and unmotivated. Tough work and life and environment? Sure. Compare in any way shape of form to the difficult life facing most of the people around the world.? Not even on the same scale. No one is poor if they have a smart phone. Been to ~60 countries. Rio, Jakarta, Manila, Mexico City, Guatemala City. I have seen poor. Nobody is poor in this country on a world scale. Nobody.

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Teresa Parmenter's avatar

Amen!

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Lisa Ca's avatar

So true. My parents are in that penny saved is penny earned and they lived mostly on one income. I am blessed to not have to support them but have their help if I need it. I too am one of few americans who will receive an inheritance one day. All because my mom penny pinched! Thankful my husband and I both learned to live without.

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Jake's avatar

Depression era folk like my mom always say "it's better to live poor than to be poor"

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Deb Hill's avatar

Yep, my parents could squeeze a dime out of a penny.

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John Galt?'s avatar

Funny you say that. A pre-1982 penny contains $0.04 of copper. Not quite a dime, but give it time. Your penny will eventually be worth a dime.

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Deb Hill's avatar

😃

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P Flournoy's avatar

That is exactly why Trump stopped the minting of pennies

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John Galt?'s avatar

Yep, I grew up in a one-earner family and was blessed to continue the tradition in my family. So: 1: I worked hard. 2: I saved. 3: I made decisions with a long game in mind. 4: I made it to retirement age with no debt and a notable nest-egg. 5: I did it all on one income. I'll take credit for merely following instructions that turned out to be true.

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Laureen's avatar

So did my mom. She used a clicker device when shopping to know when she reached her budget amount. Both my parents taught me great lessons about frugality.

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Julie's avatar

My mom had one of those! Red with white buttons. As I got older, she let me do the clicking as she said the price out loud while putting each item in the cart. I’d forgotten all about that.

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Gemma Star's avatar

I’ve never heard that adage, Jake. Thank you. I’m going to remember that it is, indeed, better to live poor than to be poor.

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Mike's avatar

THANK YOU for the short trip back in the time machine. These same authors and techniques not only saved my life but gave me a future and a legacy! Hopefully that financial impression continues to flow through my kids and grand kids. SO FAR, SO GOOD!

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John Galt?'s avatar

I am decidedly "pro-tripping"

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Occam's avatar

Well said by the titan, John Galt.

The entire western economic system is based on growth, interest and neverending increases in consumer spending (and population growth, but that's another subject).

To be frugal and focus on financial planning is the first step to unplugging from the matrix. When you have the reserves you speak of, you are more able to make reasoned decisions for the good of you and your people.

Now, pass the joint, John ;)

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rolandttg's avatar

Most of the rest of the world does not do mortgages. Cash and carry .

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shayne's avatar
21hEdited

Well done John. For years I've written every purchase made on a credit card out of my check book register, as if I'd written a check for the purchase. So when the cc bill comes in I have all the money sitting in my checking account. I also make the payment online but the date I set to the day before it's due. So I get to spend money and keep it in my account earning interest until it's paid on time.... 😏

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John Galt?'s avatar

I know Dave Ramsey wouldn't approve, but we're merely pledging future earnings while earning points on the purchase, and interest on the money we'll later use to pay off the short-term interest-free loan. Double dipping (legally).

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shayne's avatar

Sorry John.... I meant to write Well done John, not Well don't John.... which clearly was rather antagonistic. I do apologize, and have corrected it.

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John Galt?'s avatar

Yeah, I figured as much. I edit my posts for typos way too often ;-)

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Truth Seeker's avatar

thank "spell check" AI, it wasn't what you wrote

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Truth Seeker's avatar

strategic, however J Galt would agree with D Ramsey

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Ruth H's avatar
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Spot on. My father taught me to always save part of what I earned. I’m 76 and I can say that I have never paid interest on any credit card as I always pay in full every month. The only interest ever paid was on a vehicle or a home and always paid off early. I raised two boys as a single (divorced) mom and we did just fine. I bought my current home, newer and bigger, paid in full with cash from my previous home sale. Life is good when there is no debt bearing down on you. I now have more than needed and gladly help when needed; however both sons have done well for themselves and their family. Both sons will inherit money, not debt, from me. Being frugal for years has been hard to break so I still save each month.

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John Galt?'s avatar

Nailed it!

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Guy White's avatar

“Winning with money” to paraphrase Mr. Ramsey. I like your description of (legal) “double dipping” above. It’s the only point on which I deviate from his advice. I don’t consider it borrowing when I have the ability to instantly pay the balance outright. But the annual rewards/cash-back dollars are real assets that are then used toward tangible goods and services. Call it stimulating the local economy. We didn’t make the rules, just learned how to use them for a tactical advantage.

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Jerry Sommer's avatar

I wasn't a stoner but there was a song in my youth called "draggin the line" which had a line as follows: "My dog Sam eats purple flowers. We ain't got much, but what we've gots ours".

I thought that (no debt) advice was better than most financial planners give.

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SH's avatar

And if you pay cash for things like appliances, its amazing that you have leverage for a discount - even if it is only for the amount of the taxes.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

a better definition of debt never seen!

"debt is a pledge of future income"

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Kim's avatar

Amen. In college I read Prov. 22:7b, "and the borrower becomes the lender's slave." This truth seared into my heart and was brought into my marriage. My parents taught me to pay credit card debt off every month. After 6 years of marriage, we never had another auto loan. We were involved in two of Larry Burkett's financial seminars. Yes, we did have some mortgage debt, but it was always paid off as quickly as possible. Interest rate of 11% is a real incentive to pay it off quick - less than 7 years. I was a stay at home mom and eventually God blessed us with six children.

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Laura Kasner's avatar

And why so many strokes, heart attacks and blood clots?

Oh we have an idea:

https://laurakasner.substack.com/

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CHop's avatar

Thanks Laura for all your work bringing this to light. And note the last comment in Laura's Clotastrope substack. It appears ALL mRNA treatments can cause the horrific clots:

https://open.substack.com/pub/laurakasner/p/embalmers-comments-to-2025-worldwide?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&shareImageVariant=overlay&r=z1r1u

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Laureen's avatar

Happy New Year Laura! I just posted info on the paper Jeff posted about on Truth Social to the President and the White House letting them know it is being suppressed. I pray they see my posts to them.

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Laura Kasner's avatar

Laureen - I think we can be assured that Trump is already aware. I want to believe they are working on getting the shots stopped.

https://x.com/surfsbri/status/2009605603942158836

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MattD's avatar

My other favorite trope… “if it saves just one child”

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Matt, "people are dying." 🙄

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Truth Seeker's avatar

30 million and counting, a much larger # disabled

There is a new vax, for stupid people, not yet available

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Elaine Russky's avatar

There's more than one, and they've been available for a long time.

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David Roberts's avatar

Yeah but kills several thousand others. Point well taken.

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MattD's avatar

Exactly my thought every time I hear it spewed. Once I started actually listening I realized it is everywhere, e.g. if it saves just one soul. (No costs ever discussed or admitted).

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Truth Seeker's avatar

try 30 million known, insurance actuary table "data"

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Margot Wooster's avatar

And it seems like most of the people who say that are fine with abortion.

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Carol Brizzolara's avatar

We should also begin asking about all the vaccines our animals are getting and the cancers and diseases of which they die, too.

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MaryAnn's avatar

I heard about dutch.com, an online veterinary service. It was started by the same guy that started hims.com. I don’t have pets but if I did, I would consider this company. They are very conservative on their approach to pet care.

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Maureen ODH's avatar

… another trope that should be “nuked from orbit”.. one of my fave scenes from Aliens… One of m fav lines in Aliens: https://youtu.be/nnHmUk_J6xQ?si=Ddme3Kzaq2R2tHzb

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MattD's avatar

Yep..on point and funny/frightening..had forgotten that one.

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David Nelson's avatar

I wonder if the people who'd go for any treatment that saved 1 child in 10 would still do so if they knew it also killed 9 out of 10.

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MattD's avatar

David, sadly I believe we already know the answer to that question… give me another one please! I swear that if an elephant walked to the room these same people would say it’s a strawberry. They are blind to reality even at the cost of their own lives.

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Merry McIntyre's avatar

5th of what, Eric? 😁 I haven’t paid credit card interest in years, buy what I need & a few things that I want, drive a paid-for 2015 MiniCooper with manual transmission that I love, my iPhone is a 7 (still works). I only frequent establishments that accept cash & use cash whenever possible. I rarely dine out, eat organic food at home & live a healthy lifestyle. I live on a very fixed income & make it work. No debt, no stress. My lifestyle now is diametrically opposed to my former lifestyle - mansions, cars, world travel, jewelry, furs, you get the picture. Was I happy? No, I was severely depressed to the point of suicide. Now? My goal is not to be happy but to be grateful & most days peaceful (alive stillness) which feed my soul the nourishment it needs. Probably TMI but there it is.

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Peace of mind is irreplaceable. 🙂

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LaNell Tew's avatar

This was a big 'share' but one of which we all need to be reminded. Stuff does not equal happiness. Thank you for the reminder.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

Had you considered doing a speaking tour?

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Donna in MO's avatar

Came here to say the same thing. Never not paid our balance each month as we are frugal. Guarantee the rewards will be gone. No love for the credit card companies, but this is UNSECURED DEBT. People declare bankruptcy and they write off millions, maybe billions. This is the furthest thing from Conservative there is, and Josh Hawley is the biggest disappointment ever. Broke desperate people will go from credit cards to pawn shops, payday lenders and Vito the neighborhood loan shark. What about this buy now pay in 3 installments like Klarna? Classic government solutions leading to (unintended?) consequences.

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Taiga's avatar

We pay all balances each month as well. Always have. However, our government, whether federal or state, should not sanction usury - regardless of all the so-called benefits it may generate. Credit card issuers are no more than corporate loan sharks and the fact that regulators have tolerated it lends an air of decency and legality to an indecent and otherwise illegal profiteering scheme. I doubt that most middle class people will venture into alleys to meet with Vito and his billy club. Many already use payday loans and pawn shops. However, most won't sell property for pennies on the dollar to fund their trip to Disney Land. I processed bankruptcies for people and many were middle class who couldn't give up their $60 per month fingernails, extravagant vacations, newest iphones, and lots of other indulgences I couldn't afford. And those indulgences were charged on their 30% credit cards. Nearly all admitted they needed to rein in their spending but wouldn't until forced to. Like other addictions, if it's available, people will do it because it feels good - regardless the price to themselves and others. If credit is unavailable via usury, people will likely develop more discipline around their spending habits.

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Mike's avatar

the difference between the "corporate loan shark" and "Vito" is straight forward. If you don't pay Vito, he'll just beat you, then your family and y kill you. The corporate loansharks will do the very same thing only using a velvet covered hammer and they will take everything, your past, present and future. You'll just wish you were dead.

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The Great Resist's avatar

It’s possible that the lower rate could have the opposite effect, where people with good credit will run up their credit card balances even higher because a 10% interest rate doesn’t hurt as much as a 30% rate. I can certainly see that might have been my response in the past.

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Mr. Lynx Economicus's avatar

It is going to screw the people who think they can carry balances on it, and then a year later the interest rate literally almost triples.

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Peace's avatar

I thought the same thing - 10% next month. Then new administration comes in and suddenly people who've run up their balances cos it's "only" 10% interest are suddenly back to paying 30% on the high balance.

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True - as someone blessed to have been raised by parents born in the great depression, both my husband and I have always been very frugal. Flush years we paid extra on our house and beefed up our savings vs buying a bunch of stuff. I still clip coupons (and use apps) to pay as little as possible for everything. Drive old cars and still live in our long paid off starter home. But knowing a big expense or a bad year is not going to put us in a financial hole is better than any extravagant vacation or a bigger home to us. I have friends who admit they are screwed. Nice cars, lovely homes and debt up to their eyeballs and little to no retirement savings. I wouldn't be able to sleep at night, and some of them can't either. It's a treadmill that is hard to get off.

So I agree, that tougher to get credit could instill better discipline, but the credit scoring system is a crock too.

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Emumundo's avatar

Nothing says 2025 like using klarna to pay for a door dash burrito.

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Donna in MO's avatar

That whole thing amazes me! Other than Christmas season, I don't really shop online much. But seemed like most of the purchases I made this year offered me the option of 'breaking it into 3 payments?!' I was like, WTH!! If I needed to make payments on it, I can't afford it! My adult daughter is not not great with money (although she is doing better lately) and I asked her if she had ever done the 3 payment thing and she said heck no. So that's good news anyway.

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Emumundo's avatar

Remember Big Pharma advertising for heart disease interventions for children? I’m getting PTSD remembering sitting by and watching the jackals vaccinate younger and younger groups until they got down to babies and even gave pregnant women vaccinations to help the baby in utero. What have we done? I hope RFKjr. and Dr. Oz figure out some way to clean this out of the bodies of the unfortunate souls who believed it was safe and effective. There must be someone to be the voice for the millions who were killed, and we must never let this happen again.

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Deidre Garrison's avatar

I always think of how fast Bruce Willis declined after the vaks assault on humanity began. I pray for him and his family.

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william howard's avatar

and no doubt the same type of report could be done for heart attacks and strokes caused by the spike protein

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Occam's avatar

wait, so it's not long covid?

And yes, long covid was an answer on my physician wife's board exams. Unbelievable.

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william howard's avatar

i’m sure you know that virtually the entire medical community has been corrupted by pharma - my daughter in law is a doctor and the biggest proponent of vacs - even for her newborn which is child abuse

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The Great Resist's avatar

My DIL is a newly-minted doctor, and she’s very pro-vax. The medical schools do a very thorough job of brainwashing.

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SH's avatar

I had a friend who's teen son wanted to be a doctor and she was concerned about the vaxx brainwashing, so she obtained all the vax package inserts (from Children's Health Defense), then asked him for assistance in "figuring out what all these things (ingredients) are and do?"

It helped open his eyes to the great poisoning going on. She said he did go to med school, but the professors were not able to answer his questions to his satisfaction. LOL!

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Truth Seeker's avatar

Lets bring some receipts shall we? Far greater than 99% were either compliant or complicit, most both. As you point out Child Abuse is the

correct term. Made a list or Renegade MD's. Brightest bulbs in the room

are screaming about the "virus" fraud. Others are safely crowing about

mRNA Quaxcines.

It is most difficult for MD's to admit they were wrong about fundatmental issues.

Far less than 1%. The brightest bulbs in the room, in 10 step fashion,

admit they were lied to, voluntarily drank the kool aid, and propogated the falsehoods.

The good news is the Renegade MD category is growing exponentially due to Covidiocy.

The sharpest knives in the drawer include Andrew Kaufman, Robert Yoho, Dr. Wojak, Toby Rogers

Honorable mention awards for stellar contributions: Mike Stone with impeccable documentation on the fraud that Virology has always been, Ana Mihalcea who documents non biological self replicating Nano "things", Pierre Kory who uses his impeccable data expertise in favor of communicating about Structured Water, or Lawrance Palevsky a pediatrician who is anything but a vax advocate.

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william howard's avatar

and then doctors like Mary Bowden who saved our other grand children

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Truth Seeker's avatar

that list posted was by no means comprehensive

Have not heard of Doc Bowden however that is actually a good thing.

Soon there will be a literal stampede exposing the fraud.

Your volition also deserves acknowledgement for the save.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

Yes Razor, the "exams" are indoctrination promises

All know the expected answers...

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KBB's avatar

A while ago I screwed up my billpay entry and paid my credit card bill (in full, as always) ONE DAY LATE. Between the late fee and the interest that cost me $85! Since I always pay in full and on time (barring the rare mistake) this came as a real shock. And there are people who carry a balance over every single month??? What a trap.

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SuezCanal's avatar

Let me just interject here that while I now pay off my credit card every month, time was when I carried a balance, and the one time I was charged a late fee because it was one day late, I called the cc company and asked for a reimbursement because this was the first time it had ever happened. And they had no problem waiving that late fee one time and reimbursing me. You don't know unless you ask.

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Margot Wooster's avatar

That’s my advice as well. I had the same experience some years ago, and I’ll bet it would work today if you press them for it.

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Carol Brizzolara's avatar

Me, too I came to add this!!!

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

I only have 2 cards, both with ridiculously high credit limits on them and high interest rates. Interest rates mean little to me since I pay my balance every cycle. I continually get peppered with emails about taking out various kinds of loans. Won't be taking the bait.

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The Great Resist's avatar

When this has happened to me, I call the credit card company and ask for mercy based on my excellent payment history. They have always waived the late fee. (But usually not the interest.) When my mom was late on her bill a few months ago, right after my dad passed away, I “chatted” with the credit card company online, explained the situation, and they promptly credited her account for the fee.

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KBB's avatar

Good advice, thanks. If it ever happens again I'll try that.

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David Nelson's avatar

KBB, the fact that it happened, once, with your record, is the universe trying to tell you to dump them and tell them in a letter how little you appreciate their concern for your on-time payment history. Of course, if you pay on time, the industry nickname for you is "deadbeat" because they make NO money off you.

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Carol Brizzolara's avatar

Not true..,they make money off of every purchase. Now more and more, companies are adding the part that credit card companies skim off of every purchase even if paid fully on time, and are charging it to customers for using the credit card instead of cash. As an example, if I pay my son’s tuition with a credit card, I also pay an extra fee for the privilege. I just need to make sure my cash back portion for the purchase is higher than the fee.

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MaryAnn's avatar

I have a friend who works for a car dealership, in the billing dept. She said they have customers who want to pay for the purchase of their (company) vehicles with a cc but because the card companies charge 3% per purchase, (the dealership does not pass that fee on to the customer), they had to stop allowing vehicle purchases via credit card.

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David Nelson's avatar

Carol B, That's RIGHT! I completely forgot--as I was EXPECTED to!

I. APOLOGIZE!

(I am, however, right about the nickname they use for us...)

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RunningLogic's avatar

Often if you’re a good customer, you can call them and explain the situation and they’ll give you a one time credit. It’s always worth a try at least!

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Pretty sure in military parlance "coincidences" of this nature would be called "enemy action". Sayin.

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Words of wisdom from our resident Somalian pirate. 🤣

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FedUpInOR's avatar

I bought my current phone in 2018. I continue to be proud of the fact that I have the oldest phone of anyone I know

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David Nelson's avatar

Mine has a cord...

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Tiny basket of deplorable's avatar

Fed up😂

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Truth Seeker's avatar

As always a plethora of current reveals, several of which require unpacking.

Usury, as condemned by the good book, did not specify a rate dependence.

Last I checked it was usury period. Janice might know.

The Amish do not "work" with banks.

They self fund their "young folk" and finance home purchase based on track record and merit.

Although they tend to be apolitical, did come out in droves to vote for DJT.

They also have no use for the legal profession or attorneys.

Amish (exepting emergencies) avoid the Medical Cartel, the degreed professionals forwarding the latest "virus" grift. That implies that they prefer to be Pure Bloods in general despite attempts to harrass them into Compliance. The Harvard, Tufts, and Brown pros ( best educated (indoctrinated) advocate for mustard gas derivatives and ionizing radiation as their "treatments". Brilliant. Lets not digress. Now as before.

Fingering the vaxs and quaxs based on evidence, is useful but un-necessary for anyone

interested in health or its cause.

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Carol Brizzolara's avatar

I just hope that we can get someone to open the doors to the data. We could start with a state, say Florida, releasing record level data to researchers on vaccine status and disease starts. The military can do the same regarding its patients, too. The feds can release the same information on seniors on Medicare. The timing of everything! Let the data really be analyzed and I think the whole ‘safe and effective’ mantra for many, if not most, but definitely for Covid vaccines will fall away quickly. Record level data from Medicaid recipients would encompass babies on up and record level data from Medicare would encompass most seniors. Steve Kirsch has been begging for this data for a long, long time. It would, however, likely be a HUGE nail in the coffin of the vaccine industry…possibly more…we could begin analyzing other horrific cash cows of health terror like statins.

If you haven’t already, read the many analyses done in a huge variety of topics like this by ‘A Midwestern Doctor.’ His or her work is phenomenal and calls into question much of the dogma of BIG Medicine and BIG Pharma. (Sunscreen, Statins, pain medicines (DMSO has been sidelined much like ivermectin,) vaccines, ivermectin, etc. etc. etc. A Midwestern Doctor’s articles are very well researched and will red pill many of they actually open their minds and release the dogma of Rockefeller’s grasp on allopathic medicine and the medical hive mind of those trained in it. Happy reading.

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Bard Joseph's avatar

"The compensatory economy provides that when bankers and speculators clean out the people and bring them to their knees, government agencies shall step in and help them up so that they can be fleeced again. This is the function of such agencies as the Securities and Exchange Commission, Reconstruction Finance Corporation and dozens of others. The theory of the compensatory economy supplants all morality in public life, and is responsible for much corruption of the officials in Washington. Thus, also, the predeliction of the international bankers for putting ignorant provincial into key positions is not an idle fancy, and is perhaps reason for much incessant publicity for democracy. It suits the internationals that public officials be of the stupidest type, and the guise of democracy effectively controls them."

Eustace Mullins

The Federal Reserve Conspiracy, 1954

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Bard Joseph's avatar

Usury is against the law in Venezuela.

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Richard Whitney's avatar

It's against almost all religions, including Christianity. The Catholic Church got around the religious laws by using Jews for their banking. That led to some unpleasant consequences.

Mrs. RW

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SH's avatar

It led to some bad outcomes for the Templars, when the Church and Kings borrowed money from them, as well.

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Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

✝️✝️✝️

Lift up your heads, O gates,

And be lifted up, O ancient doors,

That the King of glory may come in!

Who is this King of glory?

Yahweh strong and mighty,

Yahweh mighty in battle.

— Psalm 24:7-8 LSB

✝️✝️✝️

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Essay33's avatar

Good morning Janice, I hope all is well with you today!

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Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

Other than a new adhesive allergy, I’m good. Thank you! Good to be home sleeping in my own bed!

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Susan Seas's avatar

I have it too. Can’t use band aids, but I know they are full of toxins so it could be that. I am also allergic to medical grade silicone 🥴 which several medical experts told me was impossible and then someone finally said “you can be allergic to anything” so I didn’t feel crazy after that 😂

Glad you are home!

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Lorita's avatar

No place like home...love, blessings and healing. L

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Ok. This has been a very common reaction for a few years now and WHY???!!!!! 😡😡😡

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Yep, what’s in the adhesives now that wasn’t there 5-10 years ago?

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Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

This one was pink. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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Karen Bandy's avatar

I’ve looked for hypoallergenic bandaids. With those I only react on my torso. So weird. Maybe the adhesive reacts more with skin that never sees the sun, or with fat under the skin? 🤷‍♀️🤣

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CStone's avatar

What I was getting ready to ask.

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Valerie's avatar

I developed an adhesive allergy too! During menopause a couple of years ago, one more wonderful symptom I’d never heard of before. 🙄

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Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

This was a different adhesive patch than I remember having before. Number 25 or so to add to my list of allergies.

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Valerie's avatar

That’s what happened to me too. I had one patch that was fine, switched to another brand and developed the sensitivity. Now I have to use a gel, can’t do any of the adhesives.

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Oma's avatar

So sorry, Janice!

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SH's avatar

Me as well.

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Mary C Irwin's avatar

Glad that all went well, Janice! Continued rest and recovery.

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CStone's avatar
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What a blessing to know His NAME

Psalm 91:14

“Because he holds fast to *Me in love, I will deliver him;

I will protect him, because he knows My Name.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

I love this so much! Memorized. Sustains me.

Praying for your quick and full recovery Janice.

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Dr Linda's avatar

There is so much going on that it’s hard to keep up. Thank you so much, Jeff.

You spend so much time on this information gathering. I appreciate it so much. I learn so much. Then pass it on.

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Valerie's avatar

I was just saying the same thing to my husband. Every social media outlet is awash with the Minnesota incident, I wouldn’t know that anything else was going on except for Jeff. Even my favorite other substackers haven’t written anything about the news in days. Thank you, Jeff!

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One thing is for certain, Trump 2.0 has started out on steroids in 2026 and it is fantastic.

People may remember back in early November Jeff Childers posted a full day rebuttal of a comment I had posted the previous day. I was very concerned that the Trump administration had lost its mojo, was listening to much to Wall Street, and urged the base to remind him exactly why we elected him. Although Jeff Childers didn't specifically use the word, he may have thought I was black-pilling.

That is all water under the bridge now as far as I'm concerned as Trump has nailed the affordability, immigration, and fraud issues for the last few weeks, it has been spectacular. We've seen action on interest rates, H1b's, welfare fraud, illegal alien sweeps, drug prices, gas prices, and a host of other "Main Street" type issues. This is why we elected him.

I'm sure Jeff Childers thinks Trump lulled the Dems into complacency during the Fall then sprung this on them. Whereas I think Trump was getting some really bad advice from Wall Street types and it took the base throwing a fit to snap him out of it. But it doesn't matter how we got here, what matters is results. And Trump since Christmas has been great.

Thanks Jeff Childers for bringing us the latest news and analysis every day, I don't know how you do it. And thanks also for recognizing that there's a difference between the Trump haters, and those of us who voted for him six times but still think he needs to hear our voices now and then.

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Some of us on here had the motto: “Let the man work”. We held course and he is doing what he promised despite a Congress that seems determined to thwart him as often as they can.

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Jake's avatar

The other comments were "Patience Grasshopper"

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LMWC's avatar

True. There were dark days in 2021 when C&C was the only spot that gave me some hope we would come out of this.

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Patti's avatar

TRUTH! 2021 was HARD

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Dr Linda's avatar

I appreciate your comment. This is a forum for thinking, thinking out loud. I do that it the frequently.

It gives me space. Also, other humans to share thoughts with.

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Carol Brizzolara's avatar

Amen!!!! We should do some kind of a Coffee and Covid Convention for a few days, so we can all meet in person somewhere.

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S.P.H.'s avatar

Memories of El Rushbo, Carol. Rush rooms in coffee shops and Dan's Bake sale. I miss that guy!

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Dr Linda's avatar

They’d round us up.

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Carol Brizzolara's avatar

Jeff…could we do this??? We would likely all love to come to you and make it as easy for you as possible!!!!

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Tom's avatar

Dibs on Jeff's couch!

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Politico Phil's avatar

Well said... it never hurts to hold a politician's feet to the fire, no matter who it is. In fact, it is a VERY good idea.

"Power corrupts the morals and the judgement." Richard Maybury https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1BVYpNkk-A (10 minute video)

We must always remind our politicians who they work for!

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Dr Linda's avatar

Agreed, mine hear from me at least monthly.

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Emumundo's avatar

What you stated was what I thought many times. It’s so hard not to get black pilled. But the opposition wants us demoralized and disorganized. I’m glad you came back after that, Jeff was talking to all of us who felt abandoned and it’s important to stay on the team!

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S.P.H.'s avatar

Elections also very important, Jeff C. We were deprived of our preferred candidate in 2020, whether for good or bad ,and c-19 was the nail in the coffin (bad joke) to assure vote by mail to put Brandon in office. DJT knows we were robbed, and Venezuela was key in the theft.

Primaries are very near, we can't take the chance of losing both houses or we will be right back to where we were in 2018. The lost years I call them, topped only by 2020-2024.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

Important admission. Some of us did not falter, not because of blind loyalty.

Because of character assessment. As you point out there are differing assessments.

Here is a reliable path forward.

Knowledge (never too much), Some converts to Wisdom (inexplicable), and Discernmet the governor. Of non coincidental interest, is the fact that

Amish friend volunteered the exact same pathway. That is corroboration.

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Leo's avatar

Truth: "Knowledge (never too much)?? Really? Wondering where you might draw the line...

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What I loved most today was this, “…a seed planted early in 2025 that is now, one year later, against all odds, flowering into a Redwood of historic inevitability.” That sums up absolutely everything Trump has done and is doing in every area. It’s breathtaking.

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Teresa Parmenter's avatar

It’s so uplifting

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Politico Phil's avatar

So MUCH news! It's hard to absorb it all much less put it into some kind of logical framework. And trust me, nothing happens in isolation. Everything IS related.

Today is like drinking from a fire hose. And to pile it one I just watched one of the most illuminating interviews ever of Martin Armstrong. Nuff said.....

Armstrong puts it all together. Venezuela, gold, silver, Russia, China, war cycles and, yes, even Greenland....................................................

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/armstrong-in-the-media/interview-terrifying-warning-to-gold-silver-buyers/

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Dr Linda's avatar

Martin is saying things that I have thought or wondered about. I had to pause, I hate when my crazy thoughts become true.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Right?! I know the feeling.

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Patti's avatar

Saving for later! I love reading comments for more info. Thanks

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Truth Seeker's avatar

Actually impossible to keep up. If one winks they are behind. The good news is that JC has the brilliance to over view the fake news echo chamber so we do not have to.

All of us need correction, we get some things correct based on our World Views.

It is the other category that begs refining.

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Michelle D's avatar

Nuke vaccines for food supply and pets as well.

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On an island's avatar

Absolutely! All the traditional vets advocating mainstream big brand “special diet” crap food and annual vaccines for your beloved cats and dogs are killing them!

STOP injecting your animals for everything under the sun! It’s a total $cam!!!

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Beckadee's avatar

I used to think if a vet had his little membership certificate for the state or national vet association, then he would be good. I stopped that foolish thinking during Covid when I realized they are just as bad as the MD's. My previous vet who seemed at time to be a nutter died in March 2020. He was the one who would research on his own and not recommend or even sell products just because it was the latest pharma juice. He wasn't a member of their little club. I miss that man.

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On an island's avatar

Yes the good ones are hard to find. A customer of mine took her dog to the vet and his labs were perfect. Then the vet said the dog needed a Lyme vaccine and if she didn’t agreed to it, she would literally be killing her dog. Well, a few short months later the dog was dead.

Ironically, and very sadly, my customer used to travel the world for her job and during Covid she also took all the recommended injections. Now she’s retired and partially disabled with all her illnesses. I think she’s finally starting to connect all the dots.

They use coercion to guilt us into giving our pets injections and drugs that they often don’t even need. The profit motive is very strong!

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Leo's avatar

On an island: So, did your customer vax her dog or not?

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On an island's avatar

Sadly, yes.

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Robin Esau's avatar

😢

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Mcgeehee's avatar

Currently living/working in Korea. Also a world traveler mostly for work but zero jabs (since retiring from active duty in 1999) and in perfect health at 65. Caveat: Mostly stayed put during COVID as traveling was untenable w/o a vax card.

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Juju's avatar

I’m facing a problem where our new puppy has a knee issue that is covered under warranty and fully paid for should she need surgery, but ONLY if the care is given through one of their chosen vets. But THOSE vets won’t provide service unless we get all the vaccines they want to give, which I said no to. The surgery if needed would be extremely expensive so all I can do is pray that she won’t need it, but it angers me that vets refuse service unless you inject your dog with unnecessary poison first. 😡

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Patti's avatar

Have you looked into homeopathy for your 4-legged baby? It can’t realign the joint but I quickly looked it up and with grades 1-2 there is good success. Just a suggestion as my 4-legged was my bestie for 12 years and I’d do anything for him. I felt crazy half the time cuz he was a medical baby. My vet joked and said he’s only still alive because you’re a nurse 🤣 he made it 12 years! Look into Joette Calabrese gateway 1 for a Farley inexpensive money and time wise for pets and family

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Juju's avatar

Yes I’m looking for a local holistic vet. But any necessary expensive treatments in the future (should she need it) won’t be paid for by the warranty unless I go back to the allopathic vet for the treatment. That’s what’s so aggravating to me. They can easily refuse treatment if I don’t inject her full of poison first, in which case I won’t and I’ll have to incur the expense. Such a racket by the medical industry

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Patti's avatar

So sorry! I didn’t do all the shots and thankful my vet didn’t care. He never said anything at least. I didn’t even register or tag my dog at all. I guess you’re suppose to where I live but he was 5 pounds. Never left my side unless we were home. So I didn’t feel like it was necessary or anyone else’s business

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jmsmithmd's avatar

Maybe the holistic vet will do the “vaccinations” and give you “proof” to show the vet surgeon.

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Juju's avatar

There’s a “thought” 😉☺️👍

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CStone's avatar

My daughter had to kennel her dogs because they were going on a long trip, but the kennels refused to take them unless they had ALL the vaxes.

They now suffer from terrible allergies, joint pain…..makes me so angry.

The only doggie they have that isn’t sick is an outdoor Pit Bull. The sweetest dog EVer. And not even a snotty nose.

These lunatics are trying to kill all creation.

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Juju's avatar

Yeah I’ll only ever use an in-home pet service now because of that.

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Beckadee's avatar

How do you think your pup hurt her knee?

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Juju's avatar

It’s a genetic? condition called luxating patella. They are born with it, varying degrees of severity. Sometimes it resolves on its own. Time will tell

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SH's avatar

I'm sure you already know: Strengthening Exercises: Build the Muscles Around the Patella. One of the most effective ways to treat a luxating patella at home is by strengthening the muscles around the knee. This can help stabilize the joint and reduce the chances of the kneecap slipping out of place. And do not allow jumping, those landings can be brutal.

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Juju's avatar

I’ll have to look up how to do exercises for that. She presently jumps off one chair that’s about 18” from the ground. Nothing else though.

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Tiny basket of deplorable's avatar

Juju, what breed? I had a lab with bad knees, born with it. She lived to be almost 15 without any intervention. She was the funniest lab, never, never wanted to fetch. A lab that wouldn’t fetch. lol. Her knees did bother her, her whole life.

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Juju's avatar

She’s a mutt. A Cavachon. Cross between a King Charles Cavalier Spaniel and a Bichon, but she looks more like the spaniel. Cute as a button. She’s now 12 weeks as of today.

Her back legs do look too short for her body, and she does walk a little weakly, but she loves to run fast and tear around outside. I hope the running is OK at this point given the condition.

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Beckadee's avatar

Good luck.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

Also a rock dweller. Figured the pet scam out decades ago subsequent to the

human scam. Thank the Flexner Report for its origins.

Just say no and stop it already.

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CStone's avatar

Of all the medico’s, I would have thought pediatricians and Veterinarians would have been against all these vaccines, but the MONEY!!!!! OOOOOOHHHHH!!!!

Gimme more More….MOre…..MORE!!!

I’ll even vax my own newborn!

“The LOVE of money is the ROOT of ALL EVIL.”

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Truth Seeker's avatar

Indeed, a succicnt summary. Did not require an advacned degree whether

you have one or not.

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fuzzi's avatar

The vets are being bought by equity firms, who then jack up the prices and dictate treatment plans.

We only have one independent vet left in the area, and his waiting room is always packed.

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TriTorch's avatar

Continued from Part 1: But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you. Matthew 5:43-44. This isn't a metaphor. He means it—and that's the model Jesus gives us. Not weakness, not silence in the face of abuse, but a love that refuses to mirror the hatred it receives.

The Sermon on the Mount, Excerpts from an Entrancing Analysis, Part 2 (Author Unknown)

How you treat the people who hurt you says more about your faith than how loudly you worship. And the more you understand the cross, the harder it becomes to withhold the kind of love that saved you. Do not judge or you too will be judged. That's how Jesus opens Matthew 7. And it's one of the most quoted and misunderstood verses in the entire Bible.

Because Jesus isn't saying abandon discernment. He's not telling to ignore sin or silence truth. He's warning us about something far more dangerous, hypocrisy disguised as righteousness. He continues, "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own?" Matthew 7:3.

Can you picture it? A man walking around with a wooden beam jutting from his eye, trying to fix someone else's tiny flaw. It's absurd. And that's the point. Jesus uses exaggeration not to shame, but to expose. He's showing us how easy it is to become blind to our own brokenness while obsessing over someone else's. The issue isn't correction. It's pride. It's the spirit that says, "I would never do that." The voice that feels justified in pointing fingers because its own sins are more socially acceptable or better concealed.

The heart that forgets it too needs grace every single day. And Jesus doesn't leave it at mockery. He offers a path forward. First take the plank out of your own eye and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye. Matthew 7:5. This is powerful because it's not a call to silence. It's a call to humility. It's a reminder that real correction only works when it begins with repentance.

So ask yourself, when was the last time you examined your heart before correcting someone else? What if the goal isn't to win a moral argument, but to help restore someone with the same mercy that God keeps extending to you? And what if just like in the Beatitudes, the people God blesses aren't the ones with perfect eyes, but the ones willing to be honest about their blindness.

Take this with you: The ones who see clearly are those who've allowed God to deal with what's clouding their own vision. So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you. For this sums up the law and the prophets. That's Matthew 7:12, the heartbeat of Jesus' teaching.

We call it the golden rule. But we rarely grasp how radical it really is. Because Jesus isn't just saying avoid harm. That would be easy. It would only require staying quiet, staying distant, staying uninvolved. But what he calls us to is something active. Proactive mercy. It's not don't do what you wouldn't want. It's go do what you would hope for. That means taking the first step. It means imagining what someone else needs and then meeting them there even if they never return the favor. It means choosing kindness before it's earned, compassion before it's convenient. This is not emotional sentiment. It's spiritual warfare; the kind that pushes back against a world of indifference and self-interest.

And what's even more stunning is what Jesus attaches to it. This sums up the law and the prophets. In other words, all the commandments, all the covenants, all the ancient scrolls, they find their fulfillment in this one posture—Treat others the way you would want God to treat you. So, what does that look like when you're misunderstood, you're mistreated, you're ignored?

Jesus doesn't just want us to answer that with words. He wants us to live it. Because the more you live with open hands toward people even at your own expense, the more you begin to trust that God is holding you. This golden rule isn't soft. It's bold. And when it's practiced by spirit-led people, it can change everything, marriages, communities, even enemies.

But to live like this, you have to let go of the fear that says, "If I don't protect myself, no one will." Therefore, I tell you, do not worry about your life. That's how Jesus begins one of the most tender and yet challenging parts of the sermon on the mount. Matthew 6 25.

And let's be honest, that sounds almost impossible. Don't worry, in a world like ours with bills, sickness, deadlines, uncertain futures...? [But you must remember:

"The past is the source of all regret; the future is the source of all worry; and the present is the source of all joy…and our God always and only meets us in the present.” —MattD, inspired by CS Lewis

(The fullness of our faith determines how close-by He walks with us.]

Jesus isn't dismissing the weight we carry. He's not offering shallow optimism. He's pointing us to a different kind of security, one that doesn't depend on circumstances, but on a Father who sees.

Look at the birds of the air, he says. They do not sow or reap or store away in barns. And yet your Heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? Matthew 6 26. It's a simple image, a bird flying free. Not because life is easy, but because provision is certain because through our faith He always provides. It's: "Give us today our daily bread." Not a year's worth, not tomorrow's provision, just today's.

And Jesus isn't telling us to be careless. He's telling us to trade control for trust. Because worry is what happens when we imagine the future without God in it.

He continues, "See how the flowers of the field grow. They do not labor or spin. Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these. Matthew 6 28-29. Creation doesn't panic. It blooms because it knows it was made for beauty, not for performance. And then he brings it all home.

But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. Matthew 6:33. This is the center of it. Jesus isn't saying our needs don't matter. He's saying they're not the foundation. That when we make God's kingdom our first pursuit, not comfort, not reputation, not approval, everything else falls into place under his care.

So what would that look like? What if your first thought in the morning wasn't, "What do I have to fix, but whose kingdom am I building today?"

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Continue in Part 1: https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/honor-among-thieves-friday-january/comment/197445354

Part 3 on deck for Monday

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Juju's avatar

I’ve always understood this sermon for most areas of my life, but I specifically have a difficult time when trying to apply it in the face of true, real, demonic evil. Should I happen upon a child being brutally raped and murdered, by someone who is delighting in the terror and gore, am I to show them love because of this sermon on the mount? When I see a group of people being oppressed and murdered for their faith in Jesus Christ, am I to grant love and understanding to their murderers? When I see a biological man delighting in the angst over terrorizing innocent girls in the women’s bathroom, and you can see Satan in their eyes, am I to see their actions as mere sawdust to my plank of self-righteousness?

I really don’t know how to apply this sermon when we face Satan and his demons directly, who KNOW this sermon as well as we do and take advantage of our suicidal empathy.

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TriTorch's avatar

Loving your enemies is not about not stopping henious acts or even obvious conspiracies like the vaccine or FED agendas - we definately need to stop them. It’s about not hating those who commit them, because satan and demons are very much in control through them and hatred only begets more hatred which is the gold-standard target satan is aiming for.

It’s about loving the sinner while disconnecting and condeming the sin, no matter what. Because this is what it means to be Godly and build God’s Kingdom here on earth.

It’s a love that refuses to reflect the hatred back onto the hater, just as Jesus does. Getting to such a place for mere mortals is always a journey, never a destination, but this journey, and how far along this path we get, holds all of the meaning.

Hatred cannot be solved with more hatred, no more than can you spend your way out of debt. Hatred is easy, love is hard. That’s why we are swimming in hatred. Take the hard path and counter it with love and you transform the world one brick at a time.

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SH's avatar

Wouldn't stopping them 'permanently' in those cases be considered "loving" in that it allows them to face true judgement? As with @Juju, this is also where I have a hard issue in "loving the sinner and hating the sin". Do we love them hard enough to not allow further sinning and further damage to the innocent?

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Leo's avatar

SH, Oh yes, surrendering one's own hate is truly hard. Holding hate in our heart makes us feel strong and powerful, so very very righteous.

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TriTorch's avatar

So long as the reform and rehabilitation are actually intended for that purpose and are done with love, and the person committing the crime has been found guilty by his witnesses and peers, then putting them in a facility to help them redeem and cast off their demons would be an act of love, no?

Hating them for what they did, is what Jesus is directing us not to do. Loving them and helping them anyway is what it is all about.

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Leo's avatar

TriTorch, Brilliant exposition. You are one of the few..."few be they..." who actually understands the profundity of what Jesus taught us. It is all about one's INNER condition. What's in one's heart. No exceptions. If one is not blinded by their own hate, then they are better able to see clearly what to do - how to respond. It is so basic: Hate begets hate. Love begets Love.

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TriTorch's avatar

Yes! Thank you for elevating the conversation Leo. A few years back I was struck by this thought:

It is impossible to defeat any enemy by lowering yourself to their standards. The minute you become what you are fighting is the minute the fight is lost. Regardless of who is left standing at the end.

As you say, this is essentially what Jesus is teaching. Violence begets violence, hate begets hate, love begets love. Everything we do here is based on this principle. God can end all of this with a snap of his fingers, there is no enemy that can come close to matching Him, and we cannot lose when He has our back in any battle, but He is waiting, watching, helping, and hoping that we finally learn to follow this golden "do unto others..." lesson from Jesus, and "go and do likewise."

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Tom's avatar

Before I was a believer, employed by the government, I . . . deployed weapons . . . on people who were . . . the enemy. The only things I would do different now, would be that I would pray for their salvation on the way to work, and not revel in pride at what I had done on the way home. Jesus commanded soldiers to be satisfied with their pay; He didn't say "Quit being a soldier."

We are not commanded to give way to evil. But we can pray for our enemies while we do not give way.

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Dolce Far Niente's avatar

Excellent, thank you.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

I shared your Sarcastic Teacher joke with a bunch of friends Thursday, even gave you credit (for posting it) when I shared it in the comments on Jenna McCarthy’s substack.

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TriTorch's avatar

Cool, i appreciate it Karen, but there is no need to give me credit, these jokes are ancient, the author’s names long lost to time.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

I just said that you shared it!

Everyone loves it btw! 👏🏻😆

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TriTorch's avatar

Ah i see, well good, love's just what we need more of, see original post in this thread =)

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Tom's avatar

TriTorch, I have been blessed to see God show His glory through you. And I can say this plainly because I know it won't make you proud!

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TriTorch's avatar

Thank you Tom, same with you!

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Carolyn's avatar

Wonderful

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Tiny basket of deplorable's avatar

Beautiful Tri

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Teresa Parmenter's avatar

Wow! I think of these gifts from God every single day. It’s one of the toughest lessons I’m learning - forgiveness of others that are cruel or insensitive. Thank you for this! It resonates very deeply 🙏🏻

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The Shepherd knows's avatar

It’s a wonderful coincidence that your posts are perfectly aligned with my daily Bible reading 😊 Thank you for the added insight. I appreciate you. 🙏🏼

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Truth Seeker's avatar

Indeed. Judgment is not to be conflated with Accurately Assessing.

Knowledge, Wisdom, Discernment.

Not possible to leap frog over Knowledge on the way to Wisdom.

Discernment the Governor.

Have an acquaintance who "followed" a popular guru in his youth.

That gurus suggested : "The only way out, is in"

If one is willing to consider parallels that one is prescient.

I am not advocating for guruship. Endorsing humility is a requisite step

for spiritual overstanding.

Repentance is akin to admission something the 10 step folks got right.

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Jo in veritatis inquisitione's avatar

Thank you for these true and soothing words.

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

Back in biblical times, usury was a sin. Debt was erased every seven years, hence the “jubilee.”

Debt was never supposed to be used for long terms.

Look how backwards we have it. Our entire society is built in debt. This is wealth being stolen all around us: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/the-unorthodoxy-way-to-handle-your

This is a step in the right direction

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TriTorch's avatar

To preserve our independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude. —Thomas Jefferson

Enter the Federal Debt Slavery Reserve in 1913, and since they've looted 99+ percent of the currency's value and are steeling all of the property in the world.

"You will own nothing and be happy" WEF Trademark

Abolish the FED

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Truth Seeker's avatar

more receipts, and more blessings

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Mitch's avatar

well said

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Juju's avatar
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I think this is why bankruptcy laws fall off your credit report after 7 years, but only after destroying your life for those 7 years first. So it’s not “really” erased.

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

This is an excellent point. I didn’t think of that so thank you for that callout. And you’re right, instead of allowing one to breathe for seven, it destroys one. Excellent callout

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Truth Seeker's avatar

Usury is exactly as you describe, then or now.

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"I say we should nuke Big Vaccines from orbit and start over."

Only if starting over means recognizing that interfering with God's design of the human body is counterproductive, and instead, trying to focus on supporting good health and effective natural treatments.

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Jeff S's avatar

My body, my temple.

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RunningLogic's avatar

As long as frozen marshmallows count as acceptable offerings 😁

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Elaine Russky's avatar

You're living proof, because here you are, not dead.

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SH's avatar

Freeze dried are really good!

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shayne's avatar

😂

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Jeff S's avatar

They're accepted, nay, preferred, in my local house of worship...

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FedUpInOR's avatar

Just a regular marshmallow frozen?

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RunningLogic's avatar

I don’t know, you will have to ask Jeff S, he’s the expert on that subject 😆😁

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SD Scott's avatar

Heal the soil.

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Tiny basket of deplorable's avatar

S D, is it possible to get rid of glyphosate?

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SD Scott's avatar

Good question! Could an enzyme do that?

Also, is it possible to reclaim the land confiscated for “environmental” reasons?

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RJ Rambler's avatar

I thought exactly the same thing!

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Truth Seeker's avatar

Learning something about what causes health... The way forward then as now.

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Uncle Juan's avatar

Good morning C&C followers!!!

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shayne's avatar

Good morning UJ. Lovely and sunny here today.

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Uncle Juan's avatar

“you’ll find out what’s in the shots once they’ve been in your body for a few years.”

That is like Pelosi saying “we have to pass the bill to see what is in the bill”

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

Good ol' Bernie, whining about President Trump when, if I'm not mistaken, most credit card companies have their headquarters in blue states. One might get the impression Bernie wants to use credit card rates as a political ploy and nothing else.

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Steenroid's avatar

And wasn’t Cabbage Head Joe one of the credit card companies biggest whores?

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

Frequently known as the Delaware Grift

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yup because Delaware 😑

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Tiny basket of deplorable's avatar

Steenroid, it all started in Delaware. Quite telling since he was Senator for like 100 yrs. lol

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Tardigrade's avatar

Well, Delaware.

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

Exactly

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Kathy's avatar

Especially Biden’s Delaware. He also helped change the laws to make filing bankruptcy, more difficult, even though years ago, I heard 78 percent of bankruptcies were caused by unpayable medical bills.

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Richard Whitney's avatar

And they exempted student loans from the bankruptcy bill, so that teenagers can be indebted their entire lives for going to college.

Thanks, Delaware, which is also the state which has the sweetheart corporate charter laws that make it easy for corporations to run wild. That's why so many corporations are chartered in Delaware. It's the Cayman Islands of the USA.

Mrs. RW

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Emumundo's avatar

And the majority of those had health insurance. Something is very wrong with the whole system.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

Not lost is the fact that "incorporation" is a Delaware jurisdiction

The fraud is being unraveled one thread at a time.

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Tonya's avatar

"covid vaccines were never evaluated for carcinogenicity, genotoxicity, or multi-dose long-term effects at all"

But it was an EmeRgeNcY!!!!

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RunningLogic's avatar

That was my big hesitation. No one really knew the potential long term effects. Too much of a risk with not enough benefit.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

The "forcing function" should have been a tipoff.

Never experienced such draconian tactics about anything in my life.

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TriTorch's avatar

"If You Have To Be:

Persuaded

Reminded

Pressured

Lied To

Incentivized

Coerced

Bullied

Socially Shamed

Guilt Tripped

Threatened

Paid

Punished

--> Censored <--

And

Criminalized...

If All Of This Is Necessary To Gain Your Compliance You Can Be Absolutely Certain That What Is Being Promoted Is Not In Your Best Interest" —Prof Ian Watsont

"At no time in history have the ones censoring speech been the good guys." —RFK Jr.

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shayne's avatar

Perfect!

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Elaine Russky's avatar

Donuts, though.

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TriTorch's avatar

And Shake Shack French Fries:

5-13-21 NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio Pushes Vaccines With Bribes of Free French Fries & Tickets: https://old.bitchute.com/video/LTCS3NhL0MXD [5mins]

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Patti's avatar

I like this

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes. That and the bribes were red flags to me too. But my initial misgivings were about the long term effects. Then the bribes and after that the coercive actions. Those were what sealed the deal for me. It definitely felt “off” to me.

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Free in Florida's avatar

Running Logic, one of the first issues for me (along with the question about long term effects) was in the summer of 2020 before the rollout of the jab. With projections of millions to die from covid but with no means of preventing it at that time, Fauci and his crew banned Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine which had been used with success by many physicians as part of a medical cocktail to cure covid. Huge Red Flag. Full Stop. Against some pushback, I have always been so thankful we didn’t take that poison.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes, you’re right, that seemed very off, also. And then I saw Geert Vanden Bossche’s warning about vaccinating during a pandemic and just felt like it was better to at least wait and see.

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SH's avatar

And the censoring of Dr Vladimir Zelenko was a big tell, as well.

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Beckadee's avatar

Fauci's two step with the benefit of masks told me not to believe anything they were saying.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Too bad RFK and Markary still refuse to take direct action and BAN the damned things.

Cowardice... or corruption?

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

More like insanity.

RFK Jr. should know better.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

I think he does... some say Wiles is obstructing him in every way... likely true, she IS a vile maggot...

But he should resign and do it loudly... so yes, some cowardice there.

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Patti's avatar

Exactly

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Kathy's avatar

And they were never studied for teratogenicity (causing birth defects harming or killing the fetus). If you read the book The Pfizer Papers (this is information from Pfizer’s own clinical trials that a judge forced them to release, even after they had pleaded to delay the release for 75 years) you will see exactly what Pfizer knew about the destructiveness done to pregnancies.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Exactly. Good reminder.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Yes... same Pfizer that Trump celebrated by doing a lip-lock with scumbag Pfizer CEO Bourla in the Oval...

A disgrace.

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Marice Nelson's avatar

And you took the vaccine and you didn’t die or end up in the hospital. And when you got Covid imagine how much worse it would have been without the shot. Just be grateful you survived. If you get cancer or an autoimmune disorder, again just be thankful you survived long enough for that to happen

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Tonya's avatar
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I guess some people traveled to an alternate universe to see what "would have happened".

Or, that is all just speculation based on false information about "protection".

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Marice Nelson's avatar

Sorry, comment was meant as parody, like something that might actually be tried as a comeback to anything that threatens $cience

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Tonya's avatar

Yes, I figured that out. That's why I used "some people" instead of "you". It is frustrating to see people believing "it would have been worse" without the shots.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Wow, are you brainwashed... sounds like you took the jabs and boosters...

maybe you will be lucky and survive them... doubtful... but trying to say the jabs are beneficial is a sure sign of a craven imbecile.

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Jan Terpstra's avatar

Jeff, love your emails so much! You’re fun and knowledgeable and I read you everyday. Thank you!

But, respectfully, please stop illustrating with soft porn pictures of women?

Thank you.

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Becky's avatar

Agreed. Too weird. Feels like he’s hired a marketing firm or something. Erodes his trustworthiness, especially as he claims to be a Christian.

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Dolce Far Niente's avatar

It's a boobie pic, not porn, and even devout Christian men like to look at boobies.

As a devout Christian women, I acknowledge human nature as God created it, and don't get bent out of shape because men are not as pure as certain women want them to be.

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RunningLogic's avatar

It actually cracked me up because a commenter mentioned the other day that he got very distracted by a similar photo 😆 I also wondered this morning after seeing the most recent one if Michelle knows Jeff is posting these 🤣😆 (not serious of course, just thought it was funny).

I do understand the other viewpoint but personally, I’m in agreement with you, I don’t see the harm and I know that men appreciate seeing attractive women 🤷‍♀️ It amuses me more than anything else.

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Free in Florida's avatar

Agree, Running Logic. And there’s a big difference between sexy and sexual. This photo was just sexy. As a woman, I’m fine with that!

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Patti's avatar

Funny! I didn’t even notice the pictures until someone points it out. I don’t care post whatever you want Jeff. Not going to worry about that bigger fish

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Beckadee's avatar

He was the first one I thought of when I saw the golden globes. lol

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Mark1's avatar

I know pornography when I see it, and I didn’t see any. Just one man’s opinion.

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Becky's avatar

But why? Why introduce breasts when they have no relevance at all to the topic?

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Truth Seeker's avatar

You actually know the answer. Because it works.

As you point out there is no relevance, but then one of the

most popular posters posted one and then another scripture

that also had no relevance. That is not a criticism of scipture.

A great question is its origins. Strongly suspect AI.

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jan's avatar

Please see above

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jmsmithmd's avatar

I believe she was holding credit cards and perhaps had a lot of ….debt.

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Mark1's avatar
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Because Jeff exposed us to such an awful and depressing lead picture yesterday.

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Kathy's avatar

Definitely not porn.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

it is as you describe, it is also likely AI generated

We should pay attention. If is already exists would do a great service

if there were an efficient way to scan image or test for AI origins.

That would be very useful.

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Jeff S's avatar

Er, that's no lady, that's my wife.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Ok Lyle. 🤣

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Truth Seeker's avatar

Not going to touch the claim bit.

Am thinking it an AI test...

Content providers are clamoring with AI cutsies...

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Anne Emerson Hall's avatar

I had to go back to the top of the post before I realized that I had seen the photo. What had caught my eye at first glance was the long array of credit cards. I wonder if placing them hanging from the arm of a buxom beauty was meant to emphasize the insidious appeal of easy credit.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Maybe she used them to finance a breast augmentation 😛😆

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Tiny basket of deplorable's avatar

Running Logic, I was just about to say the same. She maxed out her cc for beauty. Lol

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Abiding Dude's avatar

I wish our DOJ was as successful.

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Juju's avatar

Or how credit/debt captures our desires the way beauty does?

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Jeff S's avatar

Easy something...

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Truth Seeker's avatar

all of the above

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Juliann's avatar

Is that the shopping lady photo? I have seen so much worse at Mart of Walls. Not that I’m condoning; just asking.

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Dana Hope's avatar

And the WWE chicks in a chokehold the other day.

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Vince's avatar

A beautiful woman with a healthy figure doing her shopping, what's the problem?

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Woke broads seem to get triggered by images of well-stacked beauties.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tLCv_ryJAE&list=RD_tLCv_ryJAE&start_radio=1

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Jacquijacq's avatar

I had to go back and see what you are even referring to!!! That’s not a boo or pic unless that’s your focus. I just noticed a young persons too may credit cards. Mind in The gutter much????

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Truth Seeker's avatar

Nah, it was a boob comic pic.

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Steenroid's avatar

Jealous much?

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shayne's avatar

😂 I'm a straight woman and I can appreciate a healthy body whether male or female. I did wonder though if this one is an AI product.

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Juju's avatar

They all looked AI so far

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Jeff S's avatar

Product of the imagination.

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shayne's avatar

😉

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I would argue that they are not products of an imagination. Imagination is non-deterministic. They are products of determinism, but at transcendent scale because the decision trees are replicated millions of times over with many interconnected branches. They are deterministic light/pigment positions determined by math formula facilitating non-bizarre delusions in the mind of the viewer.

See "Nonbizarre Delusions as Strategic Deception" by Edward H. Hagen at the Department of Anthropology, Washington State University

https://anthro.vancouver.wsu.edu/media/documents/Hagen_Nonbizarre_delusions_as_strategic_deception.pdf

Here is the false religion component of AI:

Many people speaking religious words speak via metaphor or euphemism for an emergent property. In Physics, emergent properties do not strictly exist. Carl Jung's collective subconscious and the object of religion could be said to be the conception abstraction they are speaking about. That is why Jordan Peterson and the Dark Horse folks could have a pow-wow discussing how they prayed their own imagination and called their shared abstraction of that God. A huge number of Christians fall into that camp and that is why it rarely holds anymore against more focused religious group colonization. The AI Images, songs, and words being imagination falls into that camp.

The alternative camp is that there is an unseen to our limited biological eyes creator God and sensory realms beyond our own. In that world, considering the Holy Spirit an emergent property of our own acts is an internal mind of blasphemy.

Many Muslims align with true believers in other faiths on this issue, and coincidentally with Mike Lindell. Mike Lindell once participated in an interview and in that interview he went off script from the heart about how he believed in "Judgement Day"'. In the Koran, the ultimate divide between the believer and non is whether they believe in Allah (the supreme creator God) and the last day. Both are required. Among Christians one will find a tiny subset who believe in a genuine final judgement, and a great many more who see things as metaphors. This is one reason that I use apologetics for the Koran to counter hate brigades when they appear in this area. Understanding that the side that keeps men free is the side of "true believers" is critical to societal wellbeing and freedom.

The camps are thus whether imagination is non-deterministic, and whether the universe is governed entirely by the math formulas as sworn to be "the truth" by Atheist Joe Bob on such and such day. Among those who believe imagination is non-deterministic, art conveys meaning from the artists. A Bayesian formula output conveys information, not meaning. People may quibble over terms here and there, but God's people are destroyed for "Lack of knowledge" (per Hosea, chapter 4).

AI "art" conveys no meaning except the informational intent sighted by refraction from the person showing it to you. The Meaning conveyed through art is not the same as informational intent. Meaning is ontologically subjective and only exists because of and relative to a conscious being [1].

Considering AI products as from the imagination is the first step on the road to psychosis, which is becoming more and more common. The difference in psychosis between some person talking to an AI and committing suicide and a once great structural equation modeling engineer publishing a bunch of nonsense math drivel is a matter of degree, not kind. I suspect Malone is a scapegoat showing people that alter.systems cannot be trusted despite their claims to truthiness. He basically the MIC's version of "Guy" speaking punch monkey in "the Croods".

I am not a psychiatrist, but I can tell you spiritually, that accepting knowledge, and calling things by their proper terms will buffer you from delusion and madness. The output of a math formula, no matter how transcendent, is not a product of imagination or imaginative. Believing such is the first step in delusion.

[1] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9858182/

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

I'm sure it is.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

over the target

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

I'm not quite sure soft porn is the right word. But I agree, Jeff should have used an illustration of a person who was less provocatively dressed.

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Curtis's avatar

Agreed as well, but "soft porn", while an accurate term, is easily misconstrued. These days we are bombarded with this sexualized imagery from all sides, and C&C has so far been a refuge from it. The Ai stuff is particularly irritating.

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Peggy's avatar

I really appreciate this article so much. But there are some people with whom I cannot share the article, it because of the "soft" porn.

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Jeff S's avatar

I'm not sharing with my daughter. She already thinks I'm old and senile. I just wish she and my son would stop asking about an inheritance and measuring me for a casket. Bless 'em, both!

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Truth Seeker's avatar

That means you cannot disseminate information. Sharing to clueless people results in no response. Its been widely field tested. Copy and paste maybe, without the image.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Jeeze!! You need some new friends...

Something about beautiful women with great knockers is offensive to you?

She IS wearing clothes, for God's sake!

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SH's avatar

Umm, I think that was meant to be an example of one of the ways to show how they lead the young/unwary into credit card & debt traps - they've been using those methods forever: "Sexy ladies must have the latest bags, outfits, makeup, blah, blah. If men want to be worthy & attract sexy women, they must also have the latest, greatest and be able to afford what a woman needs. So, get our cards so you can have what you need." Need being the operative word there. Wants are not needs.

It's bull, but is heavily pushed in the US at large, because it works, esp on yet undeveloped brains. Sin is always pictured as something terribly attractive; no one would want to do it if it showed the ugly truth & consequences. Be aware enough to warn your sons and daughters of attractive traps instead of trying to censor someone.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

Calling that soft porn is a bit harsh. At least he is not polluting with AI generated cutesies, unless that is an example of one.

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

If smoking causes lung cancer, why did rates of lung cancer increase when smoking decreased?

What other toxin exploded during that time?

Air pollution from radiofrequency:

https://romanshapoval.substack.com/i/136468447/does-smoking-cause-lung-cancer

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Not advocating smoking; certainly not in excess- but I witnessed the takedown of the tobacco industry, which seemed to be the major supporter of conservative causes.

I’ve always been skeptical for that reason. It seemed a major reason why we got Lyndon Johnson instead of Barry Goldwater. That and big lies about Goldwater endangering Social Security.

The propaganda effort against tobacco has certainly been impressive. I was astounded at how vehemently my children reacted and still do based on their indoctrination in public school.

But how much healthier did we become? Other factors, I know, but obesity, mental problems, heart diseases, diabetes; other things exploded.

On the Landman series, the main character had a line recently about not believing that smoking causes cancer. He said other countries with much higher smoking rates have significantly fewer lung cancer cases. He pointed out Japan specifically, where he claimed most adults smoke and lung cancer is not a major cause of death.

I don’t know if that’s factual. But I’ve always been suspicious. Especially because, like we saw with Obummer and we see with Hollywood, elites smoke unmolested.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Dr Brian Ardis is a fan of nicotine. He says it’s a natural plant and has healing powers. Many say that because the homeless are smokers that’s why covid did not invade their close communities. Side note, it could also be because they live outside in sunlight so much of the time.

Anyway, what I’ve come to suspect is that it’s the additives in cigarettes that make them dangerous.

My dad smoked, quit in his early 40’s I think and eventually developed bladder cancer which is directly related to smoking. Again, the chemicals? He lived to 93 though! The cancer was not hugely problematic.

In school in around ’63 we made anti-smoking posters and took them home to our families! Propaganda? 😉

We hated the smell and were happy to comply.

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Patti's avatar

My parents smoked and I hated going to school smelling like a cigarette 😫 I remember getting asked by my coach if I smoked. So humiliating. One good thing about my parents smoking as they made 11 out of 12 children NON SMOKERS 🤣

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Two out of two kids are non smokers in my family.

My good friend’s mother smoked and two out of five smoked, her and her sister. My friend stopped and now she’s rabid in her anti-smoking views. Her mom died of lung cancer when she was 65ish.

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Deidre Garrison's avatar

I’m just happy I don’t have to breathe smoke while eating out.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

You must have anticipated my question. Perhaps the nicotine shouldn't be burned and inhaled. One could probably say that about a great many things.

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Cousin Clem's avatar

Depends on what yer smokin'. Most commercial cigarettes have quite a few added chemicals added to the tobacco. None, as far as I can tell, belong in your lungs.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

Smokers (which I'm not) were immune from covid, right? Because of the nicotine. I read that somewhere.

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Bgagnon's avatar

I agree and also watch Landman and heard that comment and wondered just like you!!! 🤔

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Cheryl Caraglior's avatar

They don't vaccinate so much in Japan either.

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william howard's avatar

now they are spraying chemicals in the air - how can Zeldin allow this to continue

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shayne's avatar

I read that nicotine may have prevented smokers from getting covid because it protected a receptor in the brain from snake venom, (of which the shot was said to have as an ingredient) and that wearing a nicotine patch did the same.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Dr. Ardis... did some good work on that. He wears a nicotine patch daily to prevent viral illness... I prefer lozenges.

Nicotine also is an amazing treatment for Dementia and Parkinson's.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

That’s right, on your suggestion I told my nephew to crush up a lozenge in his lewy body dementia mom’s shake. For a vegan he’s pretty adverse to natural remedies and of course took all the shots! Big surprise, he didn’t do it.

I guess I am not surprised, veganism isn’t healthy. 🤷‍♀️

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Great job! You might also look into Methylene blue for dementia... might be harder to slip into her drinks, but I think if you add a little sugar, the blue disappears... not sure...

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Edit… he didn’t do it. Not a peep about it.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I actually wear a low level nicotine patch daily for health purposes. I really do think it’s calming.

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Tiny basket of deplorable's avatar

What brand do you use? Amazon is a bad place to purchase, also Walmart has fakes

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Called Quit Smoking. Why is Amazon a bad place to purchase? I have no reason to think there’s anything wrong.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Really? Calming? I’ve put it off for arthritis because I thought it might make me jittery!! Glad to hear it!

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Truth Seeker's avatar

Sucking burnt anything into the lungs is seriously ill advised.

The fact that commercial tobacco has toxic inclusions partially explains the lung cancer isue. Not a one cause issue.

No question EMF's are ubiquitous whether causitive or contributory.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

A good book, "Smoke Screens" by Richard White... pretty much debunks all the attacks on tobacco and it causing disease.

Sound nuts? Read it.

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SH's avatar

Oh, thanks for that AD. I had a $3 credit on Amazon, so added it to my kindle for only 99 cents!

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Abiding Dude's avatar

It is pretty heavy sledding, but VERY interesting and I hope he's correct... I smoked for 30 years (and loved it)! Quit in 2010... will start again, maybe. when I get closer to the "exit". :-)

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Jeff S's avatar

One never knows!

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Anne Emerson Hall's avatar

I clicked on the link to the Daily Mail story, saw its headline, and then the screen was taken over by Norton Anti-Virus running a check. It summarized that my Mac was infected by 18 viruses. As I do not subscribe to Norton, I suspect it was another attempt to prevent the distribution of the report on the study.

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Anne Emerson Hall's avatar

My husband looked it up: what I saw was maladvertising. Scammers have been placing phishing ads on high traffic news sites for well over a decade. How ironic can you get!

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Juju's avatar

It would be one of the easiest ways for pharma to interfere with viewership without being directly blamed

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

The same thing has happened to me while reading a DailyMail article. One time I even got a siren warning me about viruses.

I use a Chromebook which receives constant security updates from Google.

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JSR's avatar

“ In the review, researchers analyzed 69 previously published studies and case reports from around the world, identifying 333 instances in which cancer was newly diagnosed or rapidly worsened within a few weeks following Covid vaccination”

From the daily mail article. Nice 333 reference 🙄

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RunningLogic's avatar

Oh wow, interesting!

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

Back during the covid years…. A friend of ours and his wife got the covid jab . In the month of April. Left arm. Within a couple weeks the husband was having a lot of pain in his left upper arm so he went to dr. To see what kind of muscle he pulled. They did tests and told him he had cancer. His son moved his wedding up to july because it looked like this cancer would take him quickly. He was dead by June.

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Karen's avatar

I too, had a lot of family and friends run out and get jabbed asap....I tried to warn them not to, it wasn't a tested "vaccine " very dangerous, just wait a while first, but they were too scared of "covid", or threatened by employers, schools, travel, the military to heed my warning....one has gotten turbo prostate and bowel cancer, colostomy bag and catheter for the rest of his life (4 years estimateby doctor), my military grandson has developed strange allergies and infections...I tried....

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I also tried to warn people and was treated like a nutter.

At a recent appt. at the VA, the doctor asked me if I took the covid and the flu shot.

I was speechless.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

I can still get 20% off groceries (Albertson's) by taking any vaccine...

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Elaine Russky's avatar

My advice: Get the groceries first.

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GK's avatar

But, don't stock up.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

I, too, found out who my friends are. It's a good but difficult thing to find out.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I had a friend who was extremely pushy about the shots and didn't want to hear another opinion. Finally had to cut off all contact from her.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

Well, at least you were the cutter and not the cuttee. Still, it's painful.

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fuzzi's avatar

My spouse got both jabs under peer pressure at work. He was confused 2 days after the second jab, diagnosed with dementia. Brain scans, tests came back normal. I read, watched, educated myself, shared my information with family, friends, coworkers. They blindly stampeded to get jabbed despite my efforts.

My husband passed one year ago, today, almost 4 years to the date of his second jab.

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Karen's avatar

Very sad....

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RunningLogic's avatar

Oh wow. That is horrible 😞

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Politico Phil's avatar

And people look at you like you are crazy when you tell them that the "vaccine" was actually a bio-weapon intentionally designed to kill.

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Bill Campbell's avatar

"and once again, the experts are left looking like complete asses."

Why, Jeffery, if it looks like a fish and smells like a fish, it's usually a fish. They look like complete asses because they ARE. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Have a great day, all!! Lovin it.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

as well you should

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