I have the flu (probably from Jim Talarico). Today, a judge finally tackles Flock surveillance in a dramatic meth-fueled story, and hot takes on Talarico’s walkabout are too on the nose; be cautious!
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The thing is, people are fallen and there are always going to be a subset of people who do bad things, even very bad things. You cannot legislate that away. And we shouldn't use the surveillance state to try.
I am firmly against being surveilled at all times, regardless of how "safe" it may make me or my family. Just as I am against forced vaccination, regardless of how it "prevents" infection.
and just like the fake vax that didn't provide immunity, the Flock system won't make you safer. Even the company itself reported that it only increased stolen car convictions 10% in their studies and with no difference in recovery of the vehicles. Stolen cars seems like the thing it should be best at.
Surveillance in no way makes you safer. The police have no obligation to protect you from anything, and SCOTUS has said so. They are also allowed to lie to us to gain evidence and confessions. Surveillance merely allows police to be lazier, become keyboard warriors and only worry about their own safety, disregarding the oath they swear to protect our rights in the first place. Surveillance cameras used by the government for anything beyond policing the government, need to go.
Police have no legal obligation to respond to a crime nor do they have to respond further once they show up. They have zero legal responsibility to save your life or protect you from being killed.
Exactly, doesn't take much imagination to go back a short 6 years ago to 2020 with Covidian lockdowns, imagine if our wonderful police and "officials" had access to Flock the sheep back then! They arrested people for going to the beach or a park for hell's sake, to think they would not totally weaponize it for power in those circumstances is laughable. Take imagination a little shorter back to 2021 with poison jab mandates and Covid passports, Orwell's1984 indeed.
More from 1984: Big Brother is indeed watching, remembering, building a case. Just ask Tyler Robinson and the two year old traffic stop video still available when ‘routine’ incidents are not saved beyond 30 days. Also, the young autistic man being held for the pipe bomb bs, also J6. He had a minor fender bender several years ago of which video is still available.
Tell me that stuff is not kept “just in case” something our alphabet bozos commit a crime and have to pin it elsewhere.
Being viewed or filmed in public is not the same as having your movements recorded and tracked, and then analyzed. It’s one thing to have your photo taken as you drive down the road and another thing to have an interconnected system that photographs and tracks your movements. If an individual sat at the end of my road and recorded when I left my home, and then recorded me as I went to the store and back, that could be considered stalking or harassment. It’s too far to have an interconnected system of mass surveillance.
Mayor - and eveyrone - you all may like this series that Sean is writing on Flock cameras. He was a detective and also respects autonomy rights and his series provides so many insights into this scenario: https://substack.com/@seans707705/p-217154526
POTUS Trump stated in a March 21, 2004, interview with Wolf Blitzer on CNN that "it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans". POTUS Trump never lies and that's one reason why the American people are lining up to vote for the DSA.
A comment from Trump 22 years ago... is it possible that things have changed 'a little' since then? So many 'Democrats' are now saying "I didn't leave the democrat party... it left me! "
Agree. "Lining up"? Lol. That's what the media wants you to believe. And social media promotes "Orange man bad" and TDS is a huge thing among the 1960's hippies. My grands who are old enough to vote now, are voting conservative.
POTUS Trump: "Well, you'd be shocked if I said that in many cases I probably identify more as a Democrat. It just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans. Now, it shouldn't be that way. But if you go back, I mean it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats. But certainly we had some very good economies under Democrats, as well as Republicans. And, you know, I've been around a long time, but we've had some pretty bad disaster under the Republicans. Including a thing called the Depression."
Me too. I had a chance to say that to the Dem canvassing at my house Saturday. Oh, boy, I could have spent a good hour to a day on why I won’t, but she scurried away.
I'm jesting. Get on to Kalshi and bet as much as you can on the GOP to sweep the House and the Senate. Americans are very impressed by POTUS Trump's handling of the economy. They are loving the fuel prices and the cost of living. Republicans will be rewarded handsomely. A massive red tsunami is coming.
I was a dem until 2021. I’m old, so that’s a long time. This sick twisted thing that is on horrifying display now, is NOTHING like it was or at least professed to be. I posit you are not AWAKE enough.
You are very smart, for a dem. I was joking. Americans are going to care about Biden's open border when they vote in November. They are really going to give a shit when they balance this against the fantastic job POTUS Trump has done on the economy, on draining the swamp, on dismissing the Democrat hoax on the Epstein files and on ending the forever wars. Get on to Kalshi and bet as much as you can on the GOP to sweep the House and the Senate. A massive red tsunami is coming.
You are very smart. Don't believe the fake polls. Approval of POTUS Trump is off the charts. People are happy to have a higher cost of living as long as it benefits Bibi. Bet everything on the Dems to be wiped out in the House and the Senate. Come back after the midterms and tell everyone what a winner you are and how clever you were. Darwinian natural selection in action. You deserve this.
Not impossible; but that cussed "seems," though. Democrats inherit a (more or less) functioning economy and freep it up, which takes a while, after which they turn over a shit pile. Which takes a while to address. Too lazy to dig up the quote but "Mr Dooley" (or was it Will Rogers?) figured this out LONG ago.
That's why he didn't touch any under-age girls during all the years when he was hanging out with Epstein when Epstein was running his pedo ring. It's not the sort of thing a Democrat would do. They just preached the gospel together.
It seems to me that pushiment equal to the crime and doled out quickly would remove most needs for treating lawful citizenry as potential crooks. It's worked in the past. Of course that means removing the lawless law!
exactly. We're supposed to believe Flock surveillance is about crime but they've made no efforts to prevent violent crime by keeping dangerous repeat offenders locked up.
Best point ever. And I’m enjoying all the various perspectives shared here today. I’m on the fence on this issue looking back and forth at the yards on both sides of the issue. I’m leaning towards anonymity and freedom of movement of course, but part of me feels there’s a good use for these cameras but that would require immense restrictions on their use. Can we trust all future government employees to be honorable with them?
If we are going to demand that an officer have good reason before they are allowed to pull someone over to verify their “instincts”, then these seem necessary to track automobile violations. Maybe the answer is to allow the officers to do their jobs and pull a vehicle over when they have suspicions. It appears that was the point at which the officer’s spidey senses fully took over, when they pulled them over. That’s when they became aware something was a lot more fishy. But the constant harassing of officers doing their job (most are) just to limit the few bad eggs from “profiling” has gotten us into this mess. Don’t want cameras? Get off their backs then. Don’t want them pulling people over without cause? Then deal with the cameras.
F FLOCK! If the officer had followed his intuition, he would have stopped the woman for traffic violations. Then her refusal to let him investigate her car, gave him the incentive to call in the police dog. Outcome the same. We have lost the right to privacy. The totalitarian tiptoe into 15 minute cities. A HUGE NO to surveillance!
Refusing the agree to a requested search by a police officer DOES NOT make you a criminal. Her refusal IS NOT PROBABLE CAUSE! Her refusal is EVERY. SINGLE. PERSONS. right under our Constitution.....regardless of whether they are guilty or innocent!
Obviously, I'm not saying she's innocent, but we have a Constitution FOR A REASON! And, it seems to me that police officers are losing the ability to conduct an investigation based on LEGALLY obtained evidence. Who was it that said, "I'd rather see 10 guilty people go free than falsely convict 1 innocent person."?
There is a doctrine called: The Fruit of the Poisonous Tree:
"The “fruit of the poisonous tree” doctrine is an evidentiary rule that, together with the exclusionary rule, gives the Fourth Amendment of the United States Constitution its teeth. The exclusionary rule bars illegally obtained evidence from being used in trials."
I agree with your statement, but it was the police dog that found the drugs, without the human officer searching the car. And apparently, using enhanced noses is already legal.
We don't know that the human officer would have called in his canine back-up without the Flock camera evidence, but if he had, the drugs would have been found anyway.
Right, but wouldn't calling in a dope sniffer WITHOUT probable cause still be Fruit of the Poisonous Tree? I'm not a lawyer....SO.
Again....I'm not proposing letting dopers go free....but, I AM COMPLETELY all in for supporting our 4th Constitutional Amendment. It actually was put in place BECAUSE of police abuse of conducting illegal searches.
I don't think Jeff's ring-camera analogy compares with the gravity of the Flock camera situation. Personal ring cameras are not storing footage in a fully searchable archive by law enforcement. I despise that this drug trafficker is now out on the streets, but as famous jurist William Blackstone put it (of "Blackstone's Law" fame): "It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer."
1) They have the ability to turn on phone camera and microphone without detection for over a decade.
2) They track your car by Bluetooth for over a decade.
3) They track you by your phone movements for over two decades.
But that's not enough? Now they want to photograph us everywhere? Greedy fawks!!!!!
So here's what we do. We fill their databases with garbage info. Over at adnauseam.io they have a great extension that does just that. Easy and so effective Goolag banned it from their app store & changed code so their Chrome was difficult to do.
More difficult and less convenient is communications. We can take control by utilizing ideas like matrix.org and some of the non-android/apple operating systems for phones switching to Linux away from Mickyslop & Apple.
Doubt many will do it. Just too "inconvenient". Come on people. Live a little. Channel your inner "Calvin & Hobbes", throw a spanner in the works.
Doesn't it seem like yet another "system" has been created with the "best intentions" and plenty of unintended consequences like: also creating thousands of "criminals" AKA: LE willing to stalk their X's.
No mixed feelings whatsoever, ALPRs should be illegal period without a properly obtained warrant for the narrow purpose and time period of that warrant.
I was a female officer. Sorry, but hot females don't do a thing for me- and most male officers know better than to get involved in that sort of stop. They'll call for a backup. It happens, but with all the people carrying cameras and body cams, if an officer is going to be dumb, they'd better be tough.
My detective husband says that line all the time "if you're going to be dumb, you'd better be tough." Traffic stops are inherently dangerous. KY state trooper was killed during a stop 2 weeks ago. Thankfully LMPD apprehended the shitbird a few hours later.
The 2 most dangerous things we did were traffic stops and Domestics.
I now pipe at those funerals. Have one to do next week. We did about 20 last year, including one in Palm Beach for three deputies killed at the same time. Trump was there for that one.
yes, cop-crooks gonna cop-crook. you are correct. additional fire-fuel: notice how many stops are male cop stopping (young, attractive) female driver. that is the world we live in.
Is it legal to be an attractive woman? Do you remember the case of that one in England who arrested a woman during covid for not wearing a mask and then raped her and murdered her and burned her body? I think worse things happen in the US.
"I like them," stated POTUS Trump when speaking to reporters about Flock Safety surveillance cameras. The exchange took place in September 2026 during a press gaggle aboard Air Force One. If POTUS Trump likes them then they must be good.
Very likely 90% plus of information captured will not be actionable. As long as the data has a reasonable short-life, cannot be sold, and that any abuse of the information has significant criminal penalties, I'm willing to give it a shot.
Spoken like a good peasant! I take whatever safeguards I am able to, but in the end it probably doesn't even matter.
I don't control the levers of society and that you almost need technology to exist in today's society. But you can go ahead and make excuses for gross overreaches of freedom and the insane surveillance world where there will be no privacy. It's only a matter of time before you will be a thought criminal - literally for your unspoken thoughts. But I hope it helps you to feel safe, just like those ineffective masks during COVID.
I agree. I have my devices as locked down as possible. there are no smart appliances or cameras in or around our home. Even the "web" cams on computers/tablets have tape over them.
Back in the late 90s I warned my teenager against taking drugs, pointing out the the CIA stood for Cocaine Import Agency, and telling her that we didn't support imbibing imported dangerous drugs.
Smart ass that she was, she asked me if meth was OK, since it was Made In The USA.
Yeah, I laughed, blowing my cover as stern concerned mother.
But I see that meth has been off-shored also now. More of the deindustrialization of the US.
And speaking of ubiquitous security cameras, one of my co-workers and her husband decided to pull over in a farm field for a quick....well, you know. Within a few minutes they were swarmed with police officers. It turned out that there was an fertilizer storage tank in that field, and junkies used to steal from those tanks to get the ingredients to make meth, so there was a security camera connected to the local police on that tank.
Luckily, her husband was law enforcement, so they were let go by the laughing cops.
Ilan Omar house raided at 6am this morning. Thread for any updated info of anything happening…..I’ll dance in the streets when she’s kicked out of Congress and charges brought and boarding a deportation plane.
Yes!! It was a great headline to wake up to. I will say I hope all is by the book and she gets tossed out on her turban. Ready for Jeff’s take on it tomorrow
BOOYAH, I just got up to do the Fig Newton dance! BOOM, HURRAH, HURRAY, BULLSEYE, SENSATIONAL, STUPENDOUS, YAY, RIGHT ON! Best news I will hear today, thanks for posting Sunnydaze. Couldn't happen to a nicer person, lol. May that durag wearing, brother marrying, fraud committing, lowest common denominator somali be kicked in her nasty ass and hauled out of our country dragging all her family with her. Time to fumigate the premises!
Under these circumstances, after so many thousands of people had gathered together that they were stepping on one another, He began saying to His disciples first of all, “Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy. But there is nothing covered up that will not be revealed, and hidden that will not be known. Accordingly, whatever you have said in the dark will be heard in the light, and what you have whispered in the inner rooms will be proclaimed upon the housetops.”
"I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan."
There is no consent with flock cameras, not unlike so many things we are forced to do.
I can’t turn off my license plate or my face.
They track my movement everywhere I go without my consent.
Let’s face it, this government only catches who and what they want to catch. Flock cameras gather information with no consent that can be used against you if the government wants to use it against you. It all depends on who you are!
James, I thought Jeff was joking about the flu bc of the Talarico story? Scuttlebutt (excuse the pun) has it that Talarico was having some kind of butt surgery....
I think it was a mental breakdown. Anytime you force yourself to be someone you are not for long stretches, it can cause mental/emotional damage, unless you are just psycho. And he just seems very ... 'sensitive', shall we say? Or unhinged. Lord knows, that boy has some mental delusions going on.
DJT said it was because he was forced to eat so much meat on the campaign trail! LMAO!
No idea, but certainly not a good idea to be out glad handing, in case it is something... infectious. I just wouldn't want to be in range when he finally snaps.
It’s very funny that the Talarico contingency covered its tracks so poorly that the evening receptionist was not informed of his protected status. Did they check the flock cameras? He’s a candidate with no expectation of privacy.
My question is, why does law enforcement have the use of “tool” such as a flock database that is not admissible in court? If he has not ran her license plate through that data base but instead based his search on the suspicious nature of her behaviour, would his search results not have had a better chance of being accepted in court?
From what I read though, his suspicion was just vibes (his vibes happened to be accurate.) Even his reasonable suspicion was based on conflicting information from what he knew by tracking her whereabouts on Flock, so also inadmissable. I'm coming down with the judge in this one.
I doubt that Judge Hill's flock camera ruling will survive She is stretching the exclusionary rule (the rule that excludes illegally-obtained evidence) way beyond reasonable or intended limits. The exclusionary rule exists to prevent unlawful activity by law enforcement officers who are involved in the search and seizure. It is NOT meant to be applied just because of some OTHER remote illegality (as she seems to think of flock cameras, and I don't necessarily disagree) in the whole chain of events that led to the search and seizure. Even if one assumes flock cameras are totally unconstitutional, Judge Hill's ruling doesn't fit with basic law on when and why the exclusionary rule is to be applied. The police officer did nothing wrong, and his search and seizure was appropriate. For all of us who think the drug mule should be prosecuted...she probably will be--eventually
Nice try. You began slinging the shit and can't take responsibility for it. Sounds about right for supporters of the orange fungus who has said he has never apologized. Sociopaths
I have familiarity with the behavioral health world. It's mostly filled with messed up utes, many detoxing from Kratom or whatever. Then there's the suicidal ideation cohort. These tend to be a little older, some in their30's - 50's, after which they go to the "Gero" wing.
Most people stay a few days. They were brought there against their will. Even the ones who blurted out their desire for self-harm. The ones who stay more than a week have more serious issues, like an attempted suicide. The "guests" can't have belts or shoelaces. Their attendance is not voluntary, it is compulsory.
NOBODY goes there for a tune-up. Doing this in the heat of a monumental, cash-burning senate campaign, assuming the story to be true, is a huge faceplant for the candidate, his party, and its hopes of ginning up more campaign cash.
I should also note that after discussing it with someone who has stayed at such a facility, they agreed that they've never met someone there that was cut out for the US Senate. Just sayin.
My advice: for now at least, stay focused on the real story —the candidate’s bizarre, two-week invisibility—
The real story is the candidate's bizarre ideas, policy suggestions, "what I will do if elected". So, sure, mention the bizarre invisibility, but only as a segue to his demonstrated mental disease, namely his extreme Liberalism.
The fact that we all, including our esteemed Jeff, are talking about this and not Talafreako's politics, suggests this might be a rather effective psyop by the other side. Let's get back over the target and resume dropping bombs!
After the 6 AM raid of her home this morning Ilhan Omar’s was overheard saying the last time she was this angry her brother forgot their wedding anniversary.
Flock them!! Flock the government surveillance state to death!! They are fargin ice-holes, who never asked us to vote for our own surveillance state and just started putting up cameras to Flock us. Bastages, all of them.
Great movie. Great non-profanity non-explicative laced rant. Zero actual vulgarity yet it got the meaning across. Sad that movies today make no effort at such artful whimsical dialogue…
Johnny Dangerously. A Michael Keaton movie from The 80’s. The character was: Roman Troy Moronie, an Italian gangster who butchered English language while swearing quite a lot. He was portrayed by Richard Dimitri, in Johnny Dangerously released in 1984. Making me OOOOLD for knowing this…
About 15 years ago, I was visiting Michigan. I am a licensed Montana automobile dealer. I was driving a vehicle with a Montana dealer plate. Driving into a rural town, without warning, the speed limit changed from 55 to 35mph. There was a sheriff's deputy parked on the side of the road. The deputy pulled me over. His first question to me was, "Where are you going?" I answered, "What do you mean, where am I going? It's none of your business." Needless to say, I got a ticket for driving 55 in a 35. To make a long story short, I decided to fight the ticket. In court, I explained to the judge the sudden reduction in the speed limit and told the judge that the deputy's first question was, "Where are you going?" The judge, staring at the deputy with an incredulous look and shaking his head, said to the deputy, "You can't do that". The judge dismissed the case.
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Nick Elodeon?
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Nick L. Back?
Finkle is Einhorn...Einhorn is Finkle :)
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Hey Juju, did you just follow me on Jenna's stack? Just making sure not an imposter. I have seen that before on Substack.
Yes I wanted to send you a screenshot of something I posted that you cannot see anymore. 😆 But I still didn’t get the message option. I’d rather not do it publicly. But yes that was me trying to get the messaging option for you. lol
Omg that’s funny 😆
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I, too, have mixed feelings about Flock cameras. So I will err on the side of individual freedom, as hard as that is to come by these days.
The thing is, people are fallen and there are always going to be a subset of people who do bad things, even very bad things. You cannot legislate that away. And we shouldn't use the surveillance state to try.
I am firmly against being surveilled at all times, regardless of how "safe" it may make me or my family. Just as I am against forced vaccination, regardless of how it "prevents" infection.
and just like the fake vax that didn't provide immunity, the Flock system won't make you safer. Even the company itself reported that it only increased stolen car convictions 10% in their studies and with no difference in recovery of the vehicles. Stolen cars seems like the thing it should be best at.
Surveillance in no way makes you safer. The police have no obligation to protect you from anything, and SCOTUS has said so. They are also allowed to lie to us to gain evidence and confessions. Surveillance merely allows police to be lazier, become keyboard warriors and only worry about their own safety, disregarding the oath they swear to protect our rights in the first place. Surveillance cameras used by the government for anything beyond policing the government, need to go.
@george-bredestege nails it. We need to have the ability to stop deceptive tactics or have reciprocal power to push back.
Truth in what you say.
Police have no legal obligation to respond to a crime nor do they have to respond further once they show up. They have zero legal responsibility to save your life or protect you from being killed.
People don't realize that.
If you have to have mass surveillance to detur criminal acts then there is no Freedom of movement for anyone.
Everyone is a prisoner in the digital prison
And as soon as the powers that be are against you, you will be caught up. Ask the January 6thers!
Exactly, doesn't take much imagination to go back a short 6 years ago to 2020 with Covidian lockdowns, imagine if our wonderful police and "officials" had access to Flock the sheep back then! They arrested people for going to the beach or a park for hell's sake, to think they would not totally weaponize it for power in those circumstances is laughable. Take imagination a little shorter back to 2021 with poison jab mandates and Covid passports, Orwell's1984 indeed.
More from 1984: Big Brother is indeed watching, remembering, building a case. Just ask Tyler Robinson and the two year old traffic stop video still available when ‘routine’ incidents are not saved beyond 30 days. Also, the young autistic man being held for the pipe bomb bs, also J6. He had a minor fender bender several years ago of which video is still available.
Tell me that stuff is not kept “just in case” something our alphabet bozos commit a crime and have to pin it elsewhere.
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Being viewed or filmed in public is not the same as having your movements recorded and tracked, and then analyzed. It’s one thing to have your photo taken as you drive down the road and another thing to have an interconnected system that photographs and tracks your movements. If an individual sat at the end of my road and recorded when I left my home, and then recorded me as I went to the store and back, that could be considered stalking or harassment. It’s too far to have an interconnected system of mass surveillance.
Mayor - and eveyrone - you all may like this series that Sean is writing on Flock cameras. He was a detective and also respects autonomy rights and his series provides so many insights into this scenario: https://substack.com/@seans707705/p-217154526
Always err on the side of individual freedom unlike the DSA
POTUS Trump stated in a March 21, 2004, interview with Wolf Blitzer on CNN that "it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans". POTUS Trump never lies and that's one reason why the American people are lining up to vote for the DSA.
A comment from Trump 22 years ago... is it possible that things have changed 'a little' since then? So many 'Democrats' are now saying "I didn't leave the democrat party... it left me! "
Former Democrat here. I will never vote Democrat again. DSA, are you serious? Take your meds....
Agree. "Lining up"? Lol. That's what the media wants you to believe. And social media promotes "Orange man bad" and TDS is a huge thing among the 1960's hippies. My grands who are old enough to vote now, are voting conservative.
This boomer will NEVER go blue again. EVER. But all my friends are.
Wolf Blitzer: "You’re a Republican?"
POTUS Trump: "Well, you'd be shocked if I said that in many cases I probably identify more as a Democrat. It just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans. Now, it shouldn't be that way. But if you go back, I mean it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats. But certainly we had some very good economies under Democrats, as well as Republicans. And, you know, I've been around a long time, but we've had some pretty bad disaster under the Republicans. Including a thing called the Depression."
Me too. I had a chance to say that to the Dem canvassing at my house Saturday. Oh, boy, I could have spent a good hour to a day on why I won’t, but she scurried away.
Like a cockroach when the light goes on .....
I'm jesting. Get on to Kalshi and bet as much as you can on the GOP to sweep the House and the Senate. Americans are very impressed by POTUS Trump's handling of the economy. They are loving the fuel prices and the cost of living. Republicans will be rewarded handsomely. A massive red tsunami is coming.
I apologize, I didn't see the joke, I thought you were serious. You got me.
Yes. Exactly.
Ditto
I was a dem until 2021. I’m old, so that’s a long time. This sick twisted thing that is on horrifying display now, is NOTHING like it was or at least professed to be. I posit you are not AWAKE enough.
You are very smart, for a dem. I was joking. Americans are going to care about Biden's open border when they vote in November. They are really going to give a shit when they balance this against the fantastic job POTUS Trump has done on the economy, on draining the swamp, on dismissing the Democrat hoax on the Epstein files and on ending the forever wars. Get on to Kalshi and bet as much as you can on the GOP to sweep the House and the Senate. A massive red tsunami is coming.
Copy/paste is a wonderful thing.
You are very smart. Don't believe the fake polls. Approval of POTUS Trump is off the charts. People are happy to have a higher cost of living as long as it benefits Bibi. Bet everything on the Dems to be wiped out in the House and the Senate. Come back after the midterms and tell everyone what a winner you are and how clever you were. Darwinian natural selection in action. You deserve this.
Many of us were Democrats in 2004, before Democrats became deranged.
Also, the emphasis on that particular comment was on the word "SEEMS," I betcha anything!
Not impossible; but that cussed "seems," though. Democrats inherit a (more or less) functioning economy and freep it up, which takes a while, after which they turn over a shit pile. Which takes a while to address. Too lazy to dig up the quote but "Mr Dooley" (or was it Will Rogers?) figured this out LONG ago.
The rest of that quote is that the economy was set up during the previous republican administration and then the Dem gets to reap the benefit 😉
I think Trump was still a Democrat then.
That's why he didn't touch any under-age girls during all the years when he was hanging out with Epstein when Epstein was running his pedo ring. It's not the sort of thing a Democrat would do. They just preached the gospel together.
The world is flat....views change.
Founding Fathers: those who prefer safety over freedom will soon have neither.
There it is in a nutshell!
It seems to me that pushiment equal to the crime and doled out quickly would remove most needs for treating lawful citizenry as potential crooks. It's worked in the past. Of course that means removing the lawless law!
exactly. We're supposed to believe Flock surveillance is about crime but they've made no efforts to prevent violent crime by keeping dangerous repeat offenders locked up.
Mitch, ^ THIS!
Best point ever. And I’m enjoying all the various perspectives shared here today. I’m on the fence on this issue looking back and forth at the yards on both sides of the issue. I’m leaning towards anonymity and freedom of movement of course, but part of me feels there’s a good use for these cameras but that would require immense restrictions on their use. Can we trust all future government employees to be honorable with them?
If we are going to demand that an officer have good reason before they are allowed to pull someone over to verify their “instincts”, then these seem necessary to track automobile violations. Maybe the answer is to allow the officers to do their jobs and pull a vehicle over when they have suspicions. It appears that was the point at which the officer’s spidey senses fully took over, when they pulled them over. That’s when they became aware something was a lot more fishy. But the constant harassing of officers doing their job (most are) just to limit the few bad eggs from “profiling” has gotten us into this mess. Don’t want cameras? Get off their backs then. Don’t want them pulling people over without cause? Then deal with the cameras.
Agree.
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Is our problem with the old guard UniParty machine...?
Right there with you!
Agreed.
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F FLOCK! If the officer had followed his intuition, he would have stopped the woman for traffic violations. Then her refusal to let him investigate her car, gave him the incentive to call in the police dog. Outcome the same. We have lost the right to privacy. The totalitarian tiptoe into 15 minute cities. A HUGE NO to surveillance!
Refusing the agree to a requested search by a police officer DOES NOT make you a criminal. Her refusal IS NOT PROBABLE CAUSE! Her refusal is EVERY. SINGLE. PERSONS. right under our Constitution.....regardless of whether they are guilty or innocent!
Obviously, I'm not saying she's innocent, but we have a Constitution FOR A REASON! And, it seems to me that police officers are losing the ability to conduct an investigation based on LEGALLY obtained evidence. Who was it that said, "I'd rather see 10 guilty people go free than falsely convict 1 innocent person."?
There is a doctrine called: The Fruit of the Poisonous Tree:
"The “fruit of the poisonous tree” doctrine is an evidentiary rule that, together with the exclusionary rule, gives the Fourth Amendment of the United States Constitution its teeth. The exclusionary rule bars illegally obtained evidence from being used in trials."
I agree with your statement, but it was the police dog that found the drugs, without the human officer searching the car. And apparently, using enhanced noses is already legal.
We don't know that the human officer would have called in his canine back-up without the Flock camera evidence, but if he had, the drugs would have been found anyway.
Mrs. RW
Right, but wouldn't calling in a dope sniffer WITHOUT probable cause still be Fruit of the Poisonous Tree? I'm not a lawyer....SO.
Again....I'm not proposing letting dopers go free....but, I AM COMPLETELY all in for supporting our 4th Constitutional Amendment. It actually was put in place BECAUSE of police abuse of conducting illegal searches.
I don't think Jeff's ring-camera analogy compares with the gravity of the Flock camera situation. Personal ring cameras are not storing footage in a fully searchable archive by law enforcement. I despise that this drug trafficker is now out on the streets, but as famous jurist William Blackstone put it (of "Blackstone's Law" fame): "It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer."
They are just getting greedy.
1) They have the ability to turn on phone camera and microphone without detection for over a decade.
2) They track your car by Bluetooth for over a decade.
3) They track you by your phone movements for over two decades.
But that's not enough? Now they want to photograph us everywhere? Greedy fawks!!!!!
So here's what we do. We fill their databases with garbage info. Over at adnauseam.io they have a great extension that does just that. Easy and so effective Goolag banned it from their app store & changed code so their Chrome was difficult to do.
More difficult and less convenient is communications. We can take control by utilizing ideas like matrix.org and some of the non-android/apple operating systems for phones switching to Linux away from Mickyslop & Apple.
Doubt many will do it. Just too "inconvenient". Come on people. Live a little. Channel your inner "Calvin & Hobbes", throw a spanner in the works.
I always like to ask people a simple question:
"Can you show me one kidnapped child being rescued by Flock info?"
and I add that tens of thousands go missing every year.
"I can show you hundreds of cases of abuse of the system"
Doesn't it seem like yet another "system" has been created with the "best intentions" and plenty of unintended consequences like: also creating thousands of "criminals" AKA: LE willing to stalk their X's.
Spot On ! ! !
No mixed feelings whatsoever, ALPRs should be illegal period without a properly obtained warrant for the narrow purpose and time period of that warrant.
You should have stopped at "illegal." IF the data is stored, it is available somehow---warrant or not.
Cops used to stop those driving while black. Now replaced by driving while hot female. How dare she change lanes without a signal.
I was a female officer. Sorry, but hot females don't do a thing for me- and most male officers know better than to get involved in that sort of stop. They'll call for a backup. It happens, but with all the people carrying cameras and body cams, if an officer is going to be dumb, they'd better be tough.
My detective husband says that line all the time "if you're going to be dumb, you'd better be tough." Traffic stops are inherently dangerous. KY state trooper was killed during a stop 2 weeks ago. Thankfully LMPD apprehended the shitbird a few hours later.
Many cops monitoring ex girlfriends. Creepy.
That has gone on a long time. It's beyond creepy. It's criminal - stalking
But taken to a new level now
The 2 most dangerous things we did were traffic stops and Domestics.
I now pipe at those funerals. Have one to do next week. We did about 20 last year, including one in Palm Beach for three deputies killed at the same time. Trump was there for that one.
sorry, Bard, the turn signal indicator is there for a reason. ignore it at your peril. I can tell you've never been a cop (and I don't love cops).
How do you prove it? Easily claimed.
yes, cop-crooks gonna cop-crook. you are correct. additional fire-fuel: notice how many stops are male cop stopping (young, attractive) female driver. that is the world we live in.
Is it legal to be an attractive woman? Do you remember the case of that one in England who arrested a woman during covid for not wearing a mask and then raped her and murdered her and burned her body? I think worse things happen in the US.
"I like them," stated POTUS Trump when speaking to reporters about Flock Safety surveillance cameras. The exchange took place in September 2026 during a press gaggle aboard Air Force One. If POTUS Trump likes them then they must be good.
Trump is a fan of them, go figure, as he has made it clear he wants to build out the digital security grid and instigate digital money. TAW
I have my concerns about the big push for govenment AI and that new gov site were we can all centrally sign up for everything. Stinks.
Very likely 90% plus of information captured will not be actionable. As long as the data has a reasonable short-life, cannot be sold, and that any abuse of the information has significant criminal penalties, I'm willing to give it a shot.
If you are willing to give up freedom for security, you deserve neither.
Are you using a computer or phone? If so, you have given up some degree of freedom. You still deserve freedom and security.
Spoken like a good peasant! I take whatever safeguards I am able to, but in the end it probably doesn't even matter.
I don't control the levers of society and that you almost need technology to exist in today's society. But you can go ahead and make excuses for gross overreaches of freedom and the insane surveillance world where there will be no privacy. It's only a matter of time before you will be a thought criminal - literally for your unspoken thoughts. But I hope it helps you to feel safe, just like those ineffective masks during COVID.
I agree. I have my devices as locked down as possible. there are no smart appliances or cameras in or around our home. Even the "web" cams on computers/tablets have tape over them.
Yep, but ultimately I think they are able to monitor anything we do electronically, unfortunately
I typically DO NOT agree with most of what you say.....but this, sadly.....I DO agree with.
"If so, you have given up some degree of freedom."
Yes....but just because "they" CAN deprive us of freedom doesn't mean they should.
Data saved never goes away. Ever.
Back in the late 90s I warned my teenager against taking drugs, pointing out the the CIA stood for Cocaine Import Agency, and telling her that we didn't support imbibing imported dangerous drugs.
Smart ass that she was, she asked me if meth was OK, since it was Made In The USA.
Yeah, I laughed, blowing my cover as stern concerned mother.
But I see that meth has been off-shored also now. More of the deindustrialization of the US.
And speaking of ubiquitous security cameras, one of my co-workers and her husband decided to pull over in a farm field for a quick....well, you know. Within a few minutes they were swarmed with police officers. It turned out that there was an fertilizer storage tank in that field, and junkies used to steal from those tanks to get the ingredients to make meth, so there was a security camera connected to the local police on that tank.
Luckily, her husband was law enforcement, so they were let go by the laughing cops.
Mrs. RW
The problem it is ripe for miss use!
Ilan Omar house raided at 6am this morning. Thread for any updated info of anything happening…..I’ll dance in the streets when she’s kicked out of Congress and charges brought and boarding a deportation plane.
Yes!! It was a great headline to wake up to. I will say I hope all is by the book and she gets tossed out on her turban. Ready for Jeff’s take on it tomorrow
Tossed out on her turban, music to the ears!
They’ve been investigating her for a while and she knows it. Pretty sure she had plenty of time to get rid of evidence and cover her tracks. 🙄
BOOYAH, I just got up to do the Fig Newton dance! BOOM, HURRAH, HURRAY, BULLSEYE, SENSATIONAL, STUPENDOUS, YAY, RIGHT ON! Best news I will hear today, thanks for posting Sunnydaze. Couldn't happen to a nicer person, lol. May that durag wearing, brother marrying, fraud committing, lowest common denominator somali be kicked in her nasty ass and hauled out of our country dragging all her family with her. Time to fumigate the premises!
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And no “on the scene” CNN cameras?
Like Butler, PA. 🙄
Me too! That nasty evil being has no place in politics imo!
Good! Now de-naturalize her, broom her from Congress and deport this hate-filled witch back to Somalia!
Maybe she’ll donate a couple mill to charity before she exits.
Or maybe it was seized.
Maybe to a Learing center.
Live and lear
"Lear around and find out"? nah, doesn't ring...
The Deep State always seems to get in the way of accountability. I hope that changes.
Me too
God help us a Flock is involved....
Ditto that, Sunny
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Under these circumstances, after so many thousands of people had gathered together that they were stepping on one another, He began saying to His disciples first of all, “Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy. But there is nothing covered up that will not be revealed, and hidden that will not be known. Accordingly, whatever you have said in the dark will be heard in the light, and what you have whispered in the inner rooms will be proclaimed upon the housetops.”
— Luke 12:1-3 NAS95
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"I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan."
- Rev. 2:9 [KJV]
All will be revealed. ✝️🙏🏻
What an absolutely appropriate verse for today.
Is this an argument for Flock cameras?
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"She was less of a meth mule and more of a meth rancher." That, Mr. Childers, is the finest line in the history of all Substackdom.
Ya that was good
For today. Maybe.
There is no consent with flock cameras, not unlike so many things we are forced to do.
I can’t turn off my license plate or my face.
They track my movement everywhere I go without my consent.
Let’s face it, this government only catches who and what they want to catch. Flock cameras gather information with no consent that can be used against you if the government wants to use it against you. It all depends on who you are!
Hope you feel better soon Jeff!
As Josef Stalin (the brute) is said to have observed: "Everyone is guilty of something."
James, I thought Jeff was joking about the flu bc of the Talarico story? Scuttlebutt (excuse the pun) has it that Talarico was having some kind of butt surgery....
Butt implants or removing his head, perhaps? 😁
I'd think the 2nd is too deeply embedded....
Both, it was a BOGO!
I think it was a mental breakdown. Anytime you force yourself to be someone you are not for long stretches, it can cause mental/emotional damage, unless you are just psycho. And he just seems very ... 'sensitive', shall we say? Or unhinged. Lord knows, that boy has some mental delusions going on.
DJT said it was because he was forced to eat so much meat on the campaign trail! LMAO!
No idea, but certainly not a good idea to be out glad handing, in case it is something... infectious. I just wouldn't want to be in range when he finally snaps.
Praying for a complete and total healing Mr. Childers. Hopefully it won’t take 9, 12 or 13 days. Or time in a psychiatric hospital. ❤️❤️❤️
Looks like the World Order slipped something in his drink at the music festival.
We should also play for Keith Maliniak, the producer on Pat Gray show on Blaze.
https://www.givesendgo.com/help-keith-malinak-with-medical-bills
Joining you in prayer
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It’s very funny that the Talarico contingency covered its tracks so poorly that the evening receptionist was not informed of his protected status. Did they check the flock cameras? He’s a candidate with no expectation of privacy.
Thanks for soldering on Mr. Childers and getting out your post while fighting the flu.
I disagree with the Judge's decision to throw the Oklahoma meth case out.
The flock camera portion was not the main reason for the stop nor for the officer's probable cause.
All factors taken in context gave the officer reasonable suspicion to call for a K9.
The K9 alert raised suspicion to the probable level.
Good work by the officers and dog.
My question is, why does law enforcement have the use of “tool” such as a flock database that is not admissible in court? If he has not ran her license plate through that data base but instead based his search on the suspicious nature of her behaviour, would his search results not have had a better chance of being accepted in court?
You raise good points.
Law enforcement use of LEDS/NCIC, DMV, and CCH databases are accepted by the Courts when Reasonable Suspicion arises.
Somehow, this Judge, ignored all other factors.
From what I read though, his suspicion was just vibes (his vibes happened to be accurate.) Even his reasonable suspicion was based on conflicting information from what he knew by tracking her whereabouts on Flock, so also inadmissable. I'm coming down with the judge in this one.
I understand your side, however, Reasonable Suspicion is evaluating circumstances.
When they don't align, are inconsistent, that rises to the Suspicion.
Additionally, the Officer's training and experience are also factors courts take into consideration.
It's fairly obvious this officer is successful with interdiction.
Therefore he articulated what gave him Reasonable Suspicion.
I doubt that Judge Hill's flock camera ruling will survive She is stretching the exclusionary rule (the rule that excludes illegally-obtained evidence) way beyond reasonable or intended limits. The exclusionary rule exists to prevent unlawful activity by law enforcement officers who are involved in the search and seizure. It is NOT meant to be applied just because of some OTHER remote illegality (as she seems to think of flock cameras, and I don't necessarily disagree) in the whole chain of events that led to the search and seizure. Even if one assumes flock cameras are totally unconstitutional, Judge Hill's ruling doesn't fit with basic law on when and why the exclusionary rule is to be applied. The police officer did nothing wrong, and his search and seizure was appropriate. For all of us who think the drug mule should be prosecuted...she probably will be--eventually
Well reasoned points!
I agree.
Must Love Dogs!
Jeff conveniently leaves out that Trump likes flock cameras. That's an even more unpopular take then the Iran war.
You conveniently leave out your support for Iran and Hamas.
Lame ad hominem retard. Go find where I've ever said I support either.
Your statements say it.
As does your immature name calling.
Nice try. You began slinging the shit and can't take responsibility for it. Sounds about right for supporters of the orange fungus who has said he has never apologized. Sociopaths
Let me guess: the "O" stands for Obnoxious? Oblivious?
It was Nick Shirley who outed the Learing Center not Nick Sortor.
🤦♂️ Thanks!
Yep.
I have familiarity with the behavioral health world. It's mostly filled with messed up utes, many detoxing from Kratom or whatever. Then there's the suicidal ideation cohort. These tend to be a little older, some in their30's - 50's, after which they go to the "Gero" wing.
Most people stay a few days. They were brought there against their will. Even the ones who blurted out their desire for self-harm. The ones who stay more than a week have more serious issues, like an attempted suicide. The "guests" can't have belts or shoelaces. Their attendance is not voluntary, it is compulsory.
NOBODY goes there for a tune-up. Doing this in the heat of a monumental, cash-burning senate campaign, assuming the story to be true, is a huge faceplant for the candidate, his party, and its hopes of ginning up more campaign cash.
I should also note that after discussing it with someone who has stayed at such a facility, they agreed that they've never met someone there that was cut out for the US Senate. Just sayin.
I would also say that there are many actually in the US Senate that are not cut out to be in the US Senate…..:)
I'll start the list: Bernie S., Liz, the Astronut, Patty.....take it from here Inisfad.
Maxine
you're joking John?
They might all be psycos, but I don't think they are nuts, if you get the difference.
I don't....'splain to me.
Fetterman.
That's very helpful. Thank you.
That’s an interesting take. Thanks.
My advice: for now at least, stay focused on the real story —the candidate’s bizarre, two-week invisibility—
The real story is the candidate's bizarre ideas, policy suggestions, "what I will do if elected". So, sure, mention the bizarre invisibility, but only as a segue to his demonstrated mental disease, namely his extreme Liberalism.
The fact that we all, including our esteemed Jeff, are talking about this and not Talafreako's politics, suggests this might be a rather effective psyop by the other side. Let's get back over the target and resume dropping bombs!
After the 6 AM raid of her home this morning Ilhan Omar’s was overheard saying the last time she was this angry her brother forgot their wedding anniversary.
LOL!
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Dear Jeff, so sorry you are sick! Praying for rapid recovery.
Ditto!
Cameras seem clumsy in a world where every single car will have trackers integrated into it. Have an electric vehicle? You already have one.
Horse and carriage sounds wonderful right about now!
Forget the carriage, I'll take the horse 😂
Saddle then!
I always rode bareback. Sweat from the horse is the best glue 😂😂
I did too but occasionally English Dressage as well!
Flock them!! Flock the government surveillance state to death!! They are fargin ice-holes, who never asked us to vote for our own surveillance state and just started putting up cameras to Flock us. Bastages, all of them.
Not a single swear word.
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Mada Finga!
Genius! lol.
Wish I could take credit. It's one of the Christmas Story's father's lines when fighting the furnace. Razzle trazzle steel piper!
Great movie. Great non-profanity non-explicative laced rant. Zero actual vulgarity yet it got the meaning across. Sad that movies today make no effort at such artful whimsical dialogue…
Or you could go back in time (a long time), to one of my favorites: thou art a cowardly futtock!
Love that movie, one of the favs!
Sheesh! The mouth on this guy 😄 Fecking hilarious. Was that from “Kentucky Fried Movie?” Testing the limits of my long-term memory here…
Johnny Dangerously. A Michael Keaton movie from The 80’s. The character was: Roman Troy Moronie, an Italian gangster who butchered English language while swearing quite a lot. He was portrayed by Richard Dimitri, in Johnny Dangerously released in 1984. Making me OOOOLD for knowing this…
Italian hamster? Or gangster?🙂
Autocorrect hates me today! I fixed it. Great catch, thank you! How embarrassing! Hamster! lol
🤣 Gotta watch out for those Italian hamsters!
Johnny Dangerously.
We are being Flocked!!
About 15 years ago, I was visiting Michigan. I am a licensed Montana automobile dealer. I was driving a vehicle with a Montana dealer plate. Driving into a rural town, without warning, the speed limit changed from 55 to 35mph. There was a sheriff's deputy parked on the side of the road. The deputy pulled me over. His first question to me was, "Where are you going?" I answered, "What do you mean, where am I going? It's none of your business." Needless to say, I got a ticket for driving 55 in a 35. To make a long story short, I decided to fight the ticket. In court, I explained to the judge the sudden reduction in the speed limit and told the judge that the deputy's first question was, "Where are you going?" The judge, staring at the deputy with an incredulous look and shaking his head, said to the deputy, "You can't do that". The judge dismissed the case.