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Jeff Childers's avatar

ERRATA

— Clarified that Nick Sortor is not Nick Shirley

Mitch's avatar

What about Nick Nolte?

PE Bird's avatar

Nick Elodeon?

A Guy from South Florida's avatar

Finkle is Einhorn...Einhorn is Finkle :)

Juju's avatar

I’m dying 🤣

Lori's avatar

Hey Juju, did you just follow me on Jenna's stack? Just making sure not an imposter. I have seen that before on Substack.

Juju's avatar
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Yes I wanted to send you a screenshot of something I posted that you cannot see anymore. 😆 But I still didn’t get the message option. I’d rather not do it publicly. But yes that was me trying to get the messaging option for you. lol

Silent scorn's avatar

Omg that’s funny 😆

Phillip Zinni III DO FAOASM's avatar

Praying 🙏 Wisdom for Health; Faith in JESUS for Healing! Shalom Shalom Amen and AMEN!

Double Mc's avatar

I, too, have mixed feelings about Flock cameras. So I will err on the side of individual freedom, as hard as that is to come by these days.

Green eyed gal's avatar

The thing is, people are fallen and there are always going to be a subset of people who do bad things, even very bad things. You cannot legislate that away. And we shouldn't use the surveillance state to try.

I am firmly against being surveilled at all times, regardless of how "safe" it may make me or my family. Just as I am against forced vaccination, regardless of how it "prevents" infection.

Mitch's avatar

and just like the fake vax that didn't provide immunity, the Flock system won't make you safer. Even the company itself reported that it only increased stolen car convictions 10% in their studies and with no difference in recovery of the vehicles. Stolen cars seems like the thing it should be best at.

George Bredestege's avatar

Surveillance in no way makes you safer. The police have no obligation to protect you from anything, and SCOTUS has said so. They are also allowed to lie to us to gain evidence and confessions. Surveillance merely allows police to be lazier, become keyboard warriors and only worry about their own safety, disregarding the oath they swear to protect our rights in the first place. Surveillance cameras used by the government for anything beyond policing the government, need to go.

Barry Friesen Cary's avatar

@george-bredestege nails it. We need to have the ability to stop deceptive tactics or have reciprocal power to push back.

Primum non nocere's avatar

Truth in what you say.

Police have no legal obligation to respond to a crime nor do they have to respond further once they show up. They have zero legal responsibility to save your life or protect you from being killed.

People don't realize that.

Primum non nocere's avatar

If you have to have mass surveillance to detur criminal acts then there is no Freedom of movement for anyone.

Everyone is a prisoner in the digital prison

AM Schimberg's avatar

And as soon as the powers that be are against you, you will be caught up. Ask the January 6thers!

Taiga Rohrer's avatar

Exactly, doesn't take much imagination to go back a short 6 years ago to 2020 with Covidian lockdowns, imagine if our wonderful police and "officials" had access to Flock the sheep back then! They arrested people for going to the beach or a park for hell's sake, to think they would not totally weaponize it for power in those circumstances is laughable. Take imagination a little shorter back to 2021 with poison jab mandates and Covid passports, Orwell's1984 indeed.

MaryAnn's avatar

More from 1984: Big Brother is indeed watching, remembering, building a case. Just ask Tyler Robinson and the two year old traffic stop video still available when ‘routine’ incidents are not saved beyond 30 days. Also, the young autistic man being held for the pipe bomb bs, also J6. He had a minor fender bender several years ago of which video is still available.

Tell me that stuff is not kept “just in case” something our alphabet bozos commit a crime and have to pin it elsewhere.

Mayor's avatar

Being viewed or filmed in public is not the same as having your movements recorded and tracked, and then analyzed. It’s one thing to have your photo taken as you drive down the road and another thing to have an interconnected system that photographs and tracks your movements. If an individual sat at the end of my road and recorded when I left my home, and then recorded me as I went to the store and back, that could be considered stalking or harassment. It’s too far to have an interconnected system of mass surveillance.

Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

Mayor - and eveyrone - you all may like this series that Sean is writing on Flock cameras. He was a detective and also respects autonomy rights and his series provides so many insights into this scenario: https://substack.com/@seans707705/p-217154526

Steenroid's avatar

Always err on the side of individual freedom unlike the DSA

AwakeNotWoke's avatar

POTUS Trump stated in a March 21, 2004, interview with Wolf Blitzer on CNN that "it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans". POTUS Trump never lies and that's one reason why the American people are lining up to vote for the DSA.

Graphite 🇨🇦's avatar

A comment from Trump 22 years ago... is it possible that things have changed 'a little' since then? So many 'Democrats' are now saying "I didn't leave the democrat party... it left me! "

Dianna b's avatar

Former Democrat here. I will never vote Democrat again. DSA, are you serious? Take your meds....

Melissa Collins's avatar

Agree. "Lining up"? Lol. That's what the media wants you to believe. And social media promotes "Orange man bad" and TDS is a huge thing among the 1960's hippies. My grands who are old enough to vote now, are voting conservative.

Jan's avatar

This boomer will NEVER go blue again. EVER. But all my friends are.

AwakeNotWoke's avatar

Wolf Blitzer: "You’re a Republican?"

POTUS Trump: "Well, you'd be shocked if I said that in many cases I probably identify more as a Democrat. It just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans. Now, it shouldn't be that way. But if you go back, I mean it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats. But certainly we had some very good economies under Democrats, as well as Republicans. And, you know, I've been around a long time, but we've had some pretty bad disaster under the Republicans. Including a thing called the Depression."

Jan's avatar

Me too. I had a chance to say that to the Dem canvassing at my house Saturday. Oh, boy, I could have spent a good hour to a day on why I won’t, but she scurried away.

Melissa Collins's avatar

Like a cockroach when the light goes on .....

AwakeNotWoke's avatar

I'm jesting. Get on to Kalshi and bet as much as you can on the GOP to sweep the House and the Senate. Americans are very impressed by POTUS Trump's handling of the economy. They are loving the fuel prices and the cost of living. Republicans will be rewarded handsomely. A massive red tsunami is coming.

Dianna b's avatar

I apologize, I didn't see the joke, I thought you were serious. You got me.

Jan's avatar

I was a dem until 2021. I’m old, so that’s a long time. This sick twisted thing that is on horrifying display now, is NOTHING like it was or at least professed to be. I posit you are not AWAKE enough.

AwakeNotWoke's avatar

You are very smart, for a dem. I was joking. Americans are going to care about Biden's open border when they vote in November. They are really going to give a shit when they balance this against the fantastic job POTUS Trump has done on the economy, on draining the swamp, on dismissing the Democrat hoax on the Epstein files and on ending the forever wars. Get on to Kalshi and bet as much as you can on the GOP to sweep the House and the Senate. A massive red tsunami is coming.

Inisfad's avatar

Copy/paste is a wonderful thing.

AwakeNotWoke's avatar

You are very smart. Don't believe the fake polls. Approval of POTUS Trump is off the charts. People are happy to have a higher cost of living as long as it benefits Bibi. Bet everything on the Dems to be wiped out in the House and the Senate. Come back after the midterms and tell everyone what a winner you are and how clever you were. Darwinian natural selection in action. You deserve this.

Inisfad's avatar

Many of us were Democrats in 2004, before Democrats became deranged.

Marlene Swann's avatar

Also, the emphasis on that particular comment was on the word "SEEMS," I betcha anything!

Casey Jones's avatar

Not impossible; but that cussed "seems," though. Democrats inherit a (more or less) functioning economy and freep it up, which takes a while, after which they turn over a shit pile. Which takes a while to address. Too lazy to dig up the quote but "Mr Dooley" (or was it Will Rogers?) figured this out LONG ago.

Jacquijacq's avatar

The rest of that quote is that the economy was set up during the previous republican administration and then the Dem gets to reap the benefit 😉

Eldridge C. Koppen Jr.'s avatar

I think Trump was still a Democrat then.

AwakeNotWoke's avatar

That's why he didn't touch any under-age girls during all the years when he was hanging out with Epstein when Epstein was running his pedo ring. It's not the sort of thing a Democrat would do. They just preached the gospel together.

Rudi Schmidt's avatar

The world is flat....views change.

David Roberts's avatar

Founding Fathers: those who prefer safety over freedom will soon have neither.

JudyC's avatar
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There it is in a nutshell!

RJ Rambler's avatar

It seems to me that pushiment equal to the crime and doled out quickly would remove most needs for treating lawful citizenry as potential crooks. It's worked in the past. Of course that means removing the lawless law!

Mitch's avatar

exactly. We're supposed to believe Flock surveillance is about crime but they've made no efforts to prevent violent crime by keeping dangerous repeat offenders locked up.

Juju's avatar
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Best point ever. And I’m enjoying all the various perspectives shared here today. I’m on the fence on this issue looking back and forth at the yards on both sides of the issue. I’m leaning towards anonymity and freedom of movement of course, but part of me feels there’s a good use for these cameras but that would require immense restrictions on their use. Can we trust all future government employees to be honorable with them?

If we are going to demand that an officer have good reason before they are allowed to pull someone over to verify their “instincts”, then these seem necessary to track automobile violations. Maybe the answer is to allow the officers to do their jobs and pull a vehicle over when they have suspicions. It appears that was the point at which the officer’s spidey senses fully took over, when they pulled them over. That’s when they became aware something was a lot more fishy. But the constant harassing of officers doing their job (most are) just to limit the few bad eggs from “profiling” has gotten us into this mess. Don’t want cameras? Get off their backs then. Don’t want them pulling people over without cause? Then deal with the cameras.

Harold Cokayne's avatar

We Said...

Is our problem with the old guard UniParty machine...?

Patti's avatar

Right there with you!

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Merry McIntyre's avatar

F FLOCK! If the officer had followed his intuition, he would have stopped the woman for traffic violations. Then her refusal to let him investigate her car, gave him the incentive to call in the police dog. Outcome the same. We have lost the right to privacy. The totalitarian tiptoe into 15 minute cities. A HUGE NO to surveillance!

Austin the Pug-puppy's avatar

Refusing the agree to a requested search by a police officer DOES NOT make you a criminal. Her refusal IS NOT PROBABLE CAUSE! Her refusal is EVERY. SINGLE. PERSONS. right under our Constitution.....regardless of whether they are guilty or innocent!

Obviously, I'm not saying she's innocent, but we have a Constitution FOR A REASON! And, it seems to me that police officers are losing the ability to conduct an investigation based on LEGALLY obtained evidence. Who was it that said, "I'd rather see 10 guilty people go free than falsely convict 1 innocent person."?

There is a doctrine called: The Fruit of the Poisonous Tree:

"The “fruit of the poisonous tree” doctrine is an evidentiary rule that, together with the exclusionary rule, gives the Fourth Amendment of the United States Constitution its teeth. The exclusionary rule bars illegally obtained evidence from being used in trials."

Richard Whitney's avatar

I agree with your statement, but it was the police dog that found the drugs, without the human officer searching the car. And apparently, using enhanced noses is already legal.

We don't know that the human officer would have called in his canine back-up without the Flock camera evidence, but if he had, the drugs would have been found anyway.

Mrs. RW

Austin the Pug-puppy's avatar

Right, but wouldn't calling in a dope sniffer WITHOUT probable cause still be Fruit of the Poisonous Tree? I'm not a lawyer....SO.

Again....I'm not proposing letting dopers go free....but, I AM COMPLETELY all in for supporting our 4th Constitutional Amendment. It actually was put in place BECAUSE of police abuse of conducting illegal searches.

LadyLiberty's avatar

I don't think Jeff's ring-camera analogy compares with the gravity of the Flock camera situation. Personal ring cameras are not storing footage in a fully searchable archive by law enforcement. I despise that this drug trafficker is now out on the streets, but as famous jurist William Blackstone put it (of "Blackstone's Law" fame): "It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer."

TRM's avatar

They are just getting greedy.

1) They have the ability to turn on phone camera and microphone without detection for over a decade.

2) They track your car by Bluetooth for over a decade.

3) They track you by your phone movements for over two decades.

But that's not enough? Now they want to photograph us everywhere? Greedy fawks!!!!!

So here's what we do. We fill their databases with garbage info. Over at adnauseam.io they have a great extension that does just that. Easy and so effective Goolag banned it from their app store & changed code so their Chrome was difficult to do.

More difficult and less convenient is communications. We can take control by utilizing ideas like matrix.org and some of the non-android/apple operating systems for phones switching to Linux away from Mickyslop & Apple.

Doubt many will do it. Just too "inconvenient". Come on people. Live a little. Channel your inner "Calvin & Hobbes", throw a spanner in the works.

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I always like to ask people a simple question:

"Can you show me one kidnapped child being rescued by Flock info?"

and I add that tens of thousands go missing every year.

"I can show you hundreds of cases of abuse of the system"

Austin the Pug-puppy's avatar

Doesn't it seem like yet another "system" has been created with the "best intentions" and plenty of unintended consequences like: also creating thousands of "criminals" AKA: LE willing to stalk their X's.

Taiga Rohrer's avatar

No mixed feelings whatsoever, ALPRs should be illegal period without a properly obtained warrant for the narrow purpose and time period of that warrant.

C. Wilson's avatar

You should have stopped at "illegal." IF the data is stored, it is available somehow---warrant or not.

Bard Joseph's avatar

Cops used to stop those driving while black. Now replaced by driving while hot female. How dare she change lanes without a signal.

C. Wilson's avatar

I was a female officer. Sorry, but hot females don't do a thing for me- and most male officers know better than to get involved in that sort of stop. They'll call for a backup. It happens, but with all the people carrying cameras and body cams, if an officer is going to be dumb, they'd better be tough.

Dr. Molly Rutherford's avatar

My detective husband says that line all the time "if you're going to be dumb, you'd better be tough." Traffic stops are inherently dangerous. KY state trooper was killed during a stop 2 weeks ago. Thankfully LMPD apprehended the shitbird a few hours later.

Bard Joseph's avatar

Many cops monitoring ex girlfriends. Creepy.

C. Wilson's avatar

That has gone on a long time. It's beyond creepy. It's criminal - stalking

C. Wilson's avatar

The 2 most dangerous things we did were traffic stops and Domestics.

I now pipe at those funerals. Have one to do next week. We did about 20 last year, including one in Palm Beach for three deputies killed at the same time. Trump was there for that one.

Rick Olivier's avatar

sorry, Bard, the turn signal indicator is there for a reason. ignore it at your peril. I can tell you've never been a cop (and I don't love cops).

Bard Joseph's avatar

How do you prove it? Easily claimed.

Rick Olivier's avatar

yes, cop-crooks gonna cop-crook. you are correct. additional fire-fuel: notice how many stops are male cop stopping (young, attractive) female driver. that is the world we live in.

AwakeNotWoke's avatar

Is it legal to be an attractive woman? Do you remember the case of that one in England who arrested a woman during covid for not wearing a mask and then raped her and murdered her and burned her body? I think worse things happen in the US.

AwakeNotWoke's avatar

"I like them," stated POTUS Trump when speaking to reporters about Flock Safety surveillance cameras. The exchange took place in September 2026 during a press gaggle aboard Air Force One. If POTUS Trump likes them then they must be good.

Johnny-O's avatar

Trump is a fan of them, go figure, as he has made it clear he wants to build out the digital security grid and instigate digital money. TAW

C. Wilson's avatar

I have my concerns about the big push for govenment AI and that new gov site were we can all centrally sign up for everything. Stinks.

PE Bird's avatar

Very likely 90% plus of information captured will not be actionable. As long as the data has a reasonable short-life, cannot be sold, and that any abuse of the information has significant criminal penalties, I'm willing to give it a shot.

Johnny-O's avatar

If you are willing to give up freedom for security, you deserve neither.

PE Bird's avatar

Are you using a computer or phone? If so, you have given up some degree of freedom. You still deserve freedom and security.

Johnny-O's avatar

Spoken like a good peasant! I take whatever safeguards I am able to, but in the end it probably doesn't even matter.

I don't control the levers of society and that you almost need technology to exist in today's society. But you can go ahead and make excuses for gross overreaches of freedom and the insane surveillance world where there will be no privacy. It's only a matter of time before you will be a thought criminal - literally for your unspoken thoughts. But I hope it helps you to feel safe, just like those ineffective masks during COVID.

C. Wilson's avatar

I agree. I have my devices as locked down as possible. there are no smart appliances or cameras in or around our home. Even the "web" cams on computers/tablets have tape over them.

Johnny-O's avatar

Yep, but ultimately I think they are able to monitor anything we do electronically, unfortunately

Austin the Pug-puppy's avatar

I typically DO NOT agree with most of what you say.....but this, sadly.....I DO agree with.

Austin the Pug-puppy's avatar

"If so, you have given up some degree of freedom."

Yes....but just because "they" CAN deprive us of freedom doesn't mean they should.

C. Wilson's avatar

Data saved never goes away. Ever.

Richard Whitney's avatar

Back in the late 90s I warned my teenager against taking drugs, pointing out the the CIA stood for Cocaine Import Agency, and telling her that we didn't support imbibing imported dangerous drugs.

Smart ass that she was, she asked me if meth was OK, since it was Made In The USA.

Yeah, I laughed, blowing my cover as stern concerned mother.

But I see that meth has been off-shored also now. More of the deindustrialization of the US.

And speaking of ubiquitous security cameras, one of my co-workers and her husband decided to pull over in a farm field for a quick....well, you know. Within a few minutes they were swarmed with police officers. It turned out that there was an fertilizer storage tank in that field, and junkies used to steal from those tanks to get the ingredients to make meth, so there was a security camera connected to the local police on that tank.

Luckily, her husband was law enforcement, so they were let go by the laughing cops.

Mrs. RW

Mary Pat FitzGibbons's avatar

The problem it is ripe for miss use!

Sunnydaze's avatar

Ilan Omar house raided at 6am this morning. Thread for any updated info of anything happening…..I’ll dance in the streets when she’s kicked out of Congress and charges brought and boarding a deportation plane.

Patti's avatar
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Yes!! It was a great headline to wake up to. I will say I hope all is by the book and she gets tossed out on her turban. Ready for Jeff’s take on it tomorrow

Lori's avatar

Tossed out on her turban, music to the ears!

Sunnydaze's avatar

They’ve been investigating her for a while and she knows it. Pretty sure she had plenty of time to get rid of evidence and cover her tracks. 🙄

Lori's avatar

BOOYAH, I just got up to do the Fig Newton dance! BOOM, HURRAH, HURRAY, BULLSEYE, SENSATIONAL, STUPENDOUS, YAY, RIGHT ON! Best news I will hear today, thanks for posting Sunnydaze. Couldn't happen to a nicer person, lol. May that durag wearing, brother marrying, fraud committing, lowest common denominator somali be kicked in her nasty ass and hauled out of our country dragging all her family with her. Time to fumigate the premises!

Patti's avatar

🤣🤣🤣

DQ's avatar

And no “on the scene” CNN cameras?

Phil Denter's avatar

Like Butler, PA. 🙄

Teresa Parmenter's avatar

Me too! That nasty evil being has no place in politics imo!

Paul Cruce's avatar

Good! Now de-naturalize her, broom her from Congress and deport this hate-filled witch back to Somalia!

Richard schoenenberger's avatar

Maybe she’ll donate a couple mill to charity before she exits.

Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Or maybe it was seized.

Lisa Runquist's avatar

Maybe to a Learing center.

Rick Olivier's avatar

"Lear around and find out"? nah, doesn't ring...

Jpeach's avatar

The Deep State always seems to get in the way of accountability. I hope that changes.

Rudi Schmidt's avatar

God help us a Flock is involved....

shayne's avatar

Ditto that, Sunny

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

✝️✝️✝️

Under these circumstances, after so many thousands of people had gathered together that they were stepping on one another, He began saying to His disciples first of all, “Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy. But there is nothing covered up that will not be revealed, and hidden that will not be known. Accordingly, whatever you have said in the dark will be heard in the light, and what you have whispered in the inner rooms will be proclaimed upon the housetops.”

— Luke 12:1-3 NAS95

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Phil Denter's avatar

"I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan."

- Rev. 2:9 [KJV]

All will be revealed. ✝️🙏🏻

SHug's avatar

What an absolutely appropriate verse for today.

Mitch's avatar

Is this an argument for Flock cameras?

Betsy's avatar

"She was less of a meth mule and more of a meth rancher." That, Mr. Childers, is the finest line in the history of all Substackdom.

Patti's avatar

Ya that was good

Casey Jones's avatar

For today. Maybe.

James Goodrich's avatar

There is no consent with flock cameras, not unlike so many things we are forced to do.

I can’t turn off my license plate or my face.

They track my movement everywhere I go without my consent.

Let’s face it, this government only catches who and what they want to catch. Flock cameras gather information with no consent that can be used against you if the government wants to use it against you. It all depends on who you are!

Hope you feel better soon Jeff!

David Nelson's avatar

As Josef Stalin (the brute) is said to have observed: "Everyone is guilty of something."

Lori's avatar

James, I thought Jeff was joking about the flu bc of the Talarico story? Scuttlebutt (excuse the pun) has it that Talarico was having some kind of butt surgery....

Help Needed in KS's avatar

Butt implants or removing his head, perhaps? 😁

SHug's avatar

I'd think the 2nd is too deeply embedded....

Lori's avatar

Both, it was a BOGO!

SHug's avatar

I think it was a mental breakdown. Anytime you force yourself to be someone you are not for long stretches, it can cause mental/emotional damage, unless you are just psycho. And he just seems very ... 'sensitive', shall we say? Or unhinged. Lord knows, that boy has some mental delusions going on.

DJT said it was because he was forced to eat so much meat on the campaign trail! LMAO!

No idea, but certainly not a good idea to be out glad handing, in case it is something... infectious. I just wouldn't want to be in range when he finally snaps.

Amanda Booth Bice's avatar

Praying for a complete and total healing Mr. Childers. Hopefully it won’t take 9, 12 or 13 days. Or time in a psychiatric hospital. ❤️❤️❤️

Bard Joseph's avatar

Looks like the World Order slipped something in his drink at the music festival.

Dorota's avatar

We should also play for Keith Maliniak, the producer on Pat Gray show on Blaze.

https://www.givesendgo.com/help-keith-malinak-with-medical-bills

Cookie Dee's avatar

Joining you in prayer

John Boy West's avatar

It’s very funny that the Talarico contingency covered its tracks so poorly that the evening receptionist was not informed of his protected status. Did they check the flock cameras? He’s a candidate with no expectation of privacy.

James Mecham's avatar

Thanks for soldering on Mr. Childers and getting out your post while fighting the flu.

I disagree with the Judge's decision to throw the Oklahoma meth case out.

The flock camera portion was not the main reason for the stop nor for the officer's probable cause.

All factors taken in context gave the officer reasonable suspicion to call for a K9.

The K9 alert raised suspicion to the probable level.

Good work by the officers and dog.

Christine's avatar

My question is, why does law enforcement have the use of “tool” such as a flock database that is not admissible in court? If he has not ran her license plate through that data base but instead based his search on the suspicious nature of her behaviour, would his search results not have had a better chance of being accepted in court?

James Mecham's avatar

You raise good points.

Law enforcement use of LEDS/NCIC, DMV, and CCH databases are accepted by the Courts when Reasonable Suspicion arises.

Somehow, this Judge, ignored all other factors.

AM Schimberg's avatar

From what I read though, his suspicion was just vibes (his vibes happened to be accurate.) Even his reasonable suspicion was based on conflicting information from what he knew by tracking her whereabouts on Flock, so also inadmissable. I'm coming down with the judge in this one.

James Mecham's avatar

I understand your side, however, Reasonable Suspicion is evaluating circumstances.

When they don't align, are inconsistent, that rises to the Suspicion.

Additionally, the Officer's training and experience are also factors courts take into consideration.

It's fairly obvious this officer is successful with interdiction.

Therefore he articulated what gave him Reasonable Suspicion.

Sherrylyn Young's avatar

I doubt that Judge Hill's flock camera ruling will survive She is stretching the exclusionary rule (the rule that excludes illegally-obtained evidence) way beyond reasonable or intended limits. The exclusionary rule exists to prevent unlawful activity by law enforcement officers who are involved in the search and seizure. It is NOT meant to be applied just because of some OTHER remote illegality (as she seems to think of flock cameras, and I don't necessarily disagree) in the whole chain of events that led to the search and seizure. Even if one assumes flock cameras are totally unconstitutional, Judge Hill's ruling doesn't fit with basic law on when and why the exclusionary rule is to be applied. The police officer did nothing wrong, and his search and seizure was appropriate. For all of us who think the drug mule should be prosecuted...she probably will be--eventually

James Mecham's avatar

Well reasoned points!

I agree.

Lori's avatar

Must Love Dogs!

Johnny-O's avatar

Jeff conveniently leaves out that Trump likes flock cameras. That's an even more unpopular take then the Iran war.

James Mecham's avatar

You conveniently leave out your support for Iran and Hamas.

Johnny-O's avatar

Lame ad hominem retard. Go find where I've ever said I support either.

James Mecham's avatar

Your statements say it.

As does your immature name calling.

Johnny-O's avatar

Nice try. You began slinging the shit and can't take responsibility for it. Sounds about right for supporters of the orange fungus who has said he has never apologized. Sociopaths

James Mecham's avatar

Let me guess: the "O" stands for Obnoxious? Oblivious?

Dana Hope's avatar

It was Nick Shirley who outed the Learing Center not Nick Sortor.

John Galt?'s avatar

I have familiarity with the behavioral health world. It's mostly filled with messed up utes, many detoxing from Kratom or whatever. Then there's the suicidal ideation cohort. These tend to be a little older, some in their30's - 50's, after which they go to the "Gero" wing.

Most people stay a few days. They were brought there against their will. Even the ones who blurted out their desire for self-harm. The ones who stay more than a week have more serious issues, like an attempted suicide. The "guests" can't have belts or shoelaces. Their attendance is not voluntary, it is compulsory.

NOBODY goes there for a tune-up. Doing this in the heat of a monumental, cash-burning senate campaign, assuming the story to be true, is a huge faceplant for the candidate, his party, and its hopes of ginning up more campaign cash.

John Galt?'s avatar

I should also note that after discussing it with someone who has stayed at such a facility, they agreed that they've never met someone there that was cut out for the US Senate. Just sayin.

Inisfad's avatar

I would also say that there are many actually in the US Senate that are not cut out to be in the US Senate…..:)

Rudi Schmidt's avatar

I'll start the list: Bernie S., Liz, the Astronut, Patty.....take it from here Inisfad.

Rudi Schmidt's avatar

you're joking John?

SHug's avatar

They might all be psycos, but I don't think they are nuts, if you get the difference.

Rudi Schmidt's avatar

I don't....'splain to me.

ViaVeritasVita's avatar

That's very helpful. Thank you.

Linda's avatar

That’s an interesting take. Thanks.

GregWA's avatar

My advice: for now at least, stay focused on the real story —the candidate’s bizarre, two-week invisibility—

The real story is the candidate's bizarre ideas, policy suggestions, "what I will do if elected". So, sure, mention the bizarre invisibility, but only as a segue to his demonstrated mental disease, namely his extreme Liberalism.

The fact that we all, including our esteemed Jeff, are talking about this and not Talafreako's politics, suggests this might be a rather effective psyop by the other side. Let's get back over the target and resume dropping bombs!

James Goodrich's avatar

After the 6 AM raid of her home this morning Ilhan Omar’s was overheard saying the last time she was this angry her brother forgot their wedding anniversary.

Margot Wooster's avatar

Dear Jeff, so sorry you are sick! Praying for rapid recovery.

The Reluctant Misanthrope's avatar

Cameras seem clumsy in a world where every single car will have trackers integrated into it. Have an electric vehicle? You already have one.

Lori's avatar

Horse and carriage sounds wonderful right about now!

shayne's avatar

Forget the carriage, I'll take the horse 😂

shayne's avatar

I always rode bareback. Sweat from the horse is the best glue 😂😂

Lori's avatar

I did too but occasionally English Dressage as well!

FloridaTransplant's avatar

Flock them!! Flock the government surveillance state to death!! They are fargin ice-holes, who never asked us to vote for our own surveillance state and just started putting up cameras to Flock us. Bastages, all of them.

Notyours's avatar

Wish I could take credit. It's one of the Christmas Story's father's lines when fighting the furnace. Razzle trazzle steel piper!

FloridaTransplant's avatar

Great movie. Great non-profanity non-explicative laced rant. Zero actual vulgarity yet it got the meaning across. Sad that movies today make no effort at such artful whimsical dialogue…

Navyo Ericsen's avatar

Or you could go back in time (a long time), to one of my favorites: thou art a cowardly futtock!

Lori's avatar

Love that movie, one of the favs!

Guy White's avatar

Sheesh! The mouth on this guy 😄 Fecking hilarious. Was that from “Kentucky Fried Movie?” Testing the limits of my long-term memory here…

FloridaTransplant's avatar

Johnny Dangerously. A Michael Keaton movie from The 80’s. The character was: Roman Troy Moronie, an Italian gangster who butchered English language while swearing quite a lot. He was portrayed by Richard Dimitri, in Johnny Dangerously released in 1984. Making me OOOOLD for knowing this…

Dena's avatar

Italian hamster? Or gangster?🙂

FloridaTransplant's avatar

Autocorrect hates me today! I fixed it. Great catch, thank you! How embarrassing! Hamster! lol

Juju's avatar

🤣 Gotta watch out for those Italian hamsters!

Sharoneus48's avatar

Johnny Dangerously.

Merry McIntyre's avatar

We are being Flocked!!

Jack Brake's avatar

About 15 years ago, I was visiting Michigan. I am a licensed Montana automobile dealer. I was driving a vehicle with a Montana dealer plate. Driving into a rural town, without warning, the speed limit changed from 55 to 35mph. There was a sheriff's deputy parked on the side of the road. The deputy pulled me over. His first question to me was, "Where are you going?" I answered, "What do you mean, where am I going? It's none of your business." Needless to say, I got a ticket for driving 55 in a 35. To make a long story short, I decided to fight the ticket. In court, I explained to the judge the sudden reduction in the speed limit and told the judge that the deputy's first question was, "Where are you going?" The judge, staring at the deputy with an incredulous look and shaking his head, said to the deputy, "You can't do that". The judge dismissed the case.