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Carrie's avatar

I love the protesters against cleaning up hobo camps with signs saying “being poor is not a crime”… trespassing and squatting on property that doesn’t belong to you is a crime. Criminal vagrancy is a crime. Littering is a crime. You don’t get a pass just because you refuse to get a job and be a productive member of society. Many of us in this substack community have worked ourselves out of poverty or endured through struggles.

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Carrie's avatar

My guess would be that a very small percentage of people choosing to live unproductive lives on the streets are truly helpless (for example with profound mental illness or other barrier to supporting themselves). Most are just lazy or don’t want to follow the rules of civilized society.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

A strong indicator is when someone refuses food because they’d rather have money for drink or smoke!

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Mystic William's avatar

I see an old Chinese guy, unusual for the Asian community panhandling sometimes. He begged me for money ‘i am hungry, so hungry, please’. So I bought him some food at a very good bakery a few doors away. Food with protein. I said ‘here you go. A sausage roll and a meat turnover.’ He said ‘I don’t like those. Please give me money so I can buy what I like.’ I said ‘ha! Nice try. I’ve been hungry. If you were actually hungry you’d gobble these down so fast.’ He dismissed me with a wave of his hand and reached out to another woman walking by ‘I am so hungry. Please.’ She knew him and said to me not to give him any money. He wants it for alcohol, she said. I told her I had just offered him food which he refused. I then said ‘you have any interest in my sausage roll?’ She said ‘get lost creep’. Okay, that last part didn’t happen. But the rest did.

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Double Mc's avatar

A few weeks ago, I saw a homeless man sobbing outside of the library. I went to town, bought him a nice sandwich and a coffee, and took them back. He was still there, more composed. I told him he seemed to be having a really bad day, so I brought him breakfast. He didn't thank me, but he wolfed it down. That was thanks enough.

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Mystic William's avatar

He was actually hungry.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

That makes me happy.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Yea it happens all the time. I remember when about 20 yrs ago my bro n I tried to help a parapalegic man who was homeless. We bought him a mcdonalds breakfast sandwhich and he got aggressively belligerent with us. Completely changed my view. The thing is these addicts also most often do not want help.

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EMME's avatar

Doo Daa .. Doo Daa …whistle comes in….Ohhh Doo Daa Dayyyy!!

Meaning: Get a CLUE…..NOBODY IS LISTENING TO YOU‼️

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Cornishrexlover's avatar

lol! 😂.

Well, had the exact same thing happen. A woman with “hungry children” I offered to buy them all Happy Meals. She no thanks. It’s all BS.

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M and L Borich's avatar

Saw a guy, very ripped and dangerous looking, who had a sign that said “need money for weed,”…at least he was honest😏I missed a great photo opp.

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Mary Eve's avatar

I remember years ago in Seattle my wonderful sister-in-law began making sandwiches at home to pass out to homeless people as she walked to work...a guy screamed obscenities at her and spit a huge glob of phlegm in her eye. She ended up in the emergency room having her eye washed out. Never handed sandwiches out again.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Very sad!!

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ZuZu’s Petals's avatar

Mystic William, your last two sentences made me yelp with laughter.

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JFly's avatar

Years ago as a younger person, I spent a week supervising a drilling team collecting soil samples (for geotech data) under an overpass in Queens. Every morning the same guy walked, perfectly able, to the nearby corner carrying a crutch. Once there, he put on his "poor cripple" act to collect money from those stopped at the light. Every evening he walked back home with his take for the day. Pissed me off at the time because I realized he was likely making more than me and working a shorter day!

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

To put some perspective on this, there's a Sherlock Holmes story with the same plot. This up and coming banker left his lovely home and wife every morning to go into "the city". Once there, he changed into rags and blacked his face and proceeded to make more money begging than working at his City job

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S.P.H.'s avatar

And tax free. JFly.

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Freedom Fox's avatar

I'm old enough to remember when CA Gov. NewScum cleaned up San Francisco ahead of Communist China's leader Xi Jinping's visit in 2023. Have to clean up your house for a guest visiting. Living in a sty before and after is okay, though. Which is not inhumane or being a Fascist dictator. Or something like that.

https://sfstandard.com/2023/11/14/city-clears-homeless-encampments-apec/

https://www.newsweek.com/gavin-newsom-slammed-cleaning-san-francisco-1843412

https://sjvsun.com/california/newsom-faces-criticism-over-s-f-clean-up-for-xi-jinping-visit/

https://www.californiafamily.org/2023/11/newsom-admits-to-cleaning-up-sf-for-major-summit-ca-reps-respond/

https://californiainsider.com/news/newsom-defends-huge-clean-up-of-san-francisco-ahead-of-visit-from-chinas-xi-jinping-5529168

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Sunnydaze's avatar

It all depends where your loyalties are….China or American citizens. Newscums loyalty was obvious 😒

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Lisa Ca's avatar

yeup!

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CMCM's avatar

Newscum don't care about SF because he's rarely there, and he's certainly never on the street there. He should be forced to live in the thick of it.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

That was a true "gotcha" moment, wasn't it, William!

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My Favorite Things's avatar

😂🤣😂 only for the part that didn’t happen.

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Barnjai's avatar

Your surprise ending is priceless! Hahahaha!

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Yea it happens all the time. I remember when about 20 yrs ago my bro n I tried to help a parapalegic man who was homeless. We bought him a mcdonalds breakfast sandwhich and he got aggressively belligerent with us. Completely changed my view. The thing is these addicts also most often do not want help.

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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😎

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Jay Horton's avatar

Hey Lady, Did you order a pepperoni pizza? Well, here's the pizza and (ZIPPPPPPP.....), here's the pepperoni.....

Cheech and Chong

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Cs7KkR7PKfc

Later jay

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Donna Oliphint's avatar

Every time! Nashville’s homeless community has a government and a newspaper they sell on street corners! In Montgomery, Alabama, vans carry them to their respective corners each day.

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Dolce Far Niente's avatar

I will respectfully disagree.

In my experience working with them, the majority are mentally ill or injured and/or substance addicts; it's hard to differentiate the two because so many of the mentally ill self-medicate.

The smallest number are the plain temporarily-out-of-luck folks or those who choose the hobo life voluntarily. The resources available to help lift people out of homelessness are enormous, and utterly wasted most of the time, because they aim at entirely the wrong problem.

And yes, vets make up around 6 or 7% of the homeless population (about the same percentage as they are of the gen pop), and they are homeless for the same reasons civilians are.

There are undoubtedly those who find the hobo life easier than straight life, but I don't know how one quantifies that. I think the majority of those folks simply find a way to live off gummint benefits rather than sleeping under an overpass.

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Barbls's avatar

How is it that I grew up in the second half of the 20th Century without having to avoid encampments of homeless people living in public parks and on public sidewalks - whether at home in my little town or traveling in the big cities?

Hobos have always existed in our country, but they have not always been encouraged to invade and crap all over civil communities and be fed and coddled by governments and churches taking NGO grants.

Whether one's antisocial behavior is a product of organic mental illness, drug-induced mental illness, or a free spirit, that behavior is unacceptable in communities where people aim to trust their fellow citizens.

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Truthseeker's avatar

Like all things in government today. They tell us it’s one thing- and it’s exactly the OPPOSITE

So let’s look at addiction and mental illness. Those people are hard to help… yes!

but this government culture of ‘safe houses to use!’ And ‘free paraphernalia’ … live in a homeless encampment on the streets using drugs of x quantities - unbothered by the cops- and it all only keeps people sick and addicted - until they ultimately kill themselves!

And we know they’re all hypocrites- because look at Hunter Biden … he wasn’t allowed to stew in his own addictive juices- they hauled his ass out of that hell and cleaned him up.

Because that IS what a civilized society does… helps people out of their mental health and drug addictions.

Leaving them like that- as the homeless are now- is NOT compassion - it’s neglect.

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

And THEN, when they OD, they are "

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Were the asylums still open back then?

The Libs closed them down and put the "patients" into the streets...

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CMCM's avatar

Just after high school in 1967, I got a summer job in the CA state government in downtown Sacramento. We would walk a couple of blocks to get lunch and had to pass a little park, which was usually full of older men, sitting at picnic tables and playing checkers or some such. There were nearby cheap old apartments and hotels circling the park, probably built in the 1920s, now used as housing for such people, and that is where they all seemed to live. They didn't appear to trash the park, but they just hung out there during the day chatting and playing board games. I remember being fascinated to see it and felt a bit sorry for them, but at that time, it seemed kind of sad but harmless. Nothing bad or violent ever happened that I can remember, and they didn't bother us young girls when we walked by. In those days, we called them bums. They were probably alcoholics, but they were generally quiet ones.

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Stacy's avatar

Addiction?

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Barbls's avatar

What's your question?

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Stacy's avatar

I know you answered your first question in your final paragraph— just adding my answer to your first question.

Lived around DC in the 70’s, in Chicago in the 80’s, worked part time downtown LA in the 90’s —

Addiction seems the main fuel here to these drastic changes?

But I also concur— the mental illness spectrum is what must be addressed.

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Carrie's avatar

We see so much violence in these tent communities too, like beatings by multiple of one vulnerable person. That’s another reason I’m so against the hobo lifestyle for whatever reason one chooses it.

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Garden Lover's avatar

There was a large homeless encampment under the 405 freeway in Los Angeles—something like 40+ tents. There were frequent violence (shootings, fights, stabbings), drug deals, and they even had a brothel. Women in the homeless community are often sex trafficked.

The progressive fight for “housing first”, which means you give the homeless places to live without any conditions. We all know how well that’s going to work.

Of course, in CA, $40 billion in funds earmarked to address homelessness has “surprisingly” gone missing. Still no word on that. Kind of like the $100 million raised for the victims of the fires.

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Susie & Security's avatar

Yup. They steal from each other all the time. Hard to provide security for your tent home. They kill, too.

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Garden Lover's avatar

I don’t remember the statistic, but there are deaths in the homeless community I want to say weekly, but don’t quote me.

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Susie & Security's avatar

Per ChatGPT, it varies by city. But one thing is certain: Homeless people are significantly more likely to be victims of theft, assault, and homicide compared to the housed population.

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James Mecham's avatar

I learned during my 30 years working in law enforcement that the overwhelming majority are transient criminals. They lost work, homes, friends, families because they are drug addicts. The mental deterioration is due to their use of controlled substances. They commit crimes to sustain their addiction which includes selling drugs.

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Donna Oliphint's avatar

For a couple of summers my church had a homeless guy (complete with a beautiful longhaired kitten we watched grow into a cat that always sat on the top of his backpack whether he wore it or put it on a chair to go get some of our free coffee) who attended several times on his bi-annual trips between Florida and somewhere “up north”. Several people befriended him, and one asked him if he had any family. He said he did and could live with them, but he said he liked the homeless lifestyle.

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Margot Wooster's avatar

I sure hope you guys shared the gospel with him. All need Jesus!

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Susie & Security's avatar

Exactly. One mentally unstable homeless woman I worked with was a drug abuser taking in $1,800/mo from SSA but living in a tent.

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Garden Lover's avatar

CA will give them $600/month. Obviously, not enough to get off the streets, but enough to keep them in drugs for a week.

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Double Mc's avatar

How does she get her checks? And frankly, $1800 will barely cover rent, let alone utilities and groceries. If that was all the money I had, I'd most likely be in a tent, too. We have to find a way to solve this problem.

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Full Name's avatar

Bring back the WPA-

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dusty1530@comcast.net's avatar

Have at it big Mc!

Sharon Skygrl

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Robyn Welch's avatar

I do accounting for one of the nonprofit organizations in my area that works with the homeless population. (I suspect it might be one of the NGOs that is partly a slush fund for some area agencies) I honestly don't know what they do, other than pay other agencies, and pay for some hotel rooms and Uber eats when it's really hot or cold. I asked them if they can do anything about the panhandlers, which is legal here. I was told that they are not "homeless", because they are given enough money that they can stay in a hotel. I find it humorous that they will stand on the corner of a major thoroughfare near the highway with their sign, across the street from the Employment Agency.

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Melissa S's avatar

I spoke with a police officer not too long ago whose main job was to work with the homeless and try to get them help, which included dealing with families with children. She was very compassionate and clearly dedicated to her responsibilities. I asked her what percentage of the homeless she was truly able to help. She replied sadly that it was only about 5%. The overwhelming majority of the homeless she dealt with were content to remain homeless.

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Rob's avatar

There are people who have a different path than the rest of us do...

If you think about the song "Me & Bobby McGee" & the line "freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose"...

there are people on the street who live like that because they are as free as they can get on the street.

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Melissa S's avatar

Back in the day there were people we called hobos. We didn’t feel sorry for them. We didn’t call them victims. We didn’t allot billions of dollars nationwide to “help” them. We recognized that there were some people who liked their lifestyle. Heck, when I was a kid, hobo themed parties was a thing. We would dress up like bums in our most worn clothes. Tie up whatever we were taking in a big handkerchief and tie it onto a stick. We would take a can of pork & beans to the party and eat cold beans out of a can. We weren’t mocking hobos. It was just fun.

However, those hobos never defecated and urinated on our sidewalks. They never disposed of their needles on our grass. They never set up tents in cities and parks so that normal citizens had to not pass the tent cities out of fear of violence or stepping in filth or being accosted for money so they could buy drugs and alcohol.

Today if people want to be free, that’s fine. Just don’t invade and overtake our parks and city streets with your tents and drugs and alcohol. And don’t rob my house and my fellow citizen’s homes to pay for your addictions. And quit leaving your excrement on my sidewalks and making our towns and cities to what pleases you. “Freedom” for you these days apparently means a loss of freedom for the rest of us.

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S.P.H.'s avatar

Melissa, I still occasionally eat cold B&M baked beans from a can, just part of my bachelor lifestyle, and I like baked beans. :-)

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Barbls's avatar

And they can do it because they are fed by localities and given drugs by localities and provided with tents by localities and immune from prosecution by localities. There's a big difference between a Native American choosing to live the old way on Navajo land and a strung-out rage-filled drop-out urban druggie copulating on a doorstep that does not belong to him.

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Lori's avatar

You want a tent, work for it. You want food, work for it. If prisoners work, so can they.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

You must be living in the south because the prisoners up here in PA don't WORK - they go out in the "yard" and harass one another or play b-ball!

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D. S.'s avatar

Did you mean to write defecating, rather than copulating?

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Lori's avatar

as they are crapping on public property and have the potential to carry disease to others due to lack of proper hygiene.

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Garden Lover's avatar

A few years ago, due to the heat and the size of the homeless population on Skid Row, Los Angeles issued a warning of a possible typhoid outbreak.

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Lori's avatar

No doubt.

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S.P.H.'s avatar

Now we are getting to the crux of the matter Lori. Enabling and excusing vagrancy is a public health issue. The insanity of propagating this lifestyle harms us all and does nothing for the downtrodden. The book of Leviticus, Deuteronomy and others teaches the rules of hygiene, waste disposal, dead animals (and humans) mold etc. to prevent the spread of disease.

Homelessness has been turned into an industry by the left. While using flowery words and tugging on heartstrings there is a thriving enterprise just under the surface, all payed for for yours and my hard earned income through taxes.

Selling this scam begins by pleading the plight of these 'unfortunate victims' through a compliant media. Then leftist legislatures pass mandatory regulation to house, feed, and supplement this class of people. Free transportation via mass transit which then becomes unusable for daily commuters because they fear the danger and filth encountered. Builders vie for lucrative contracts to build or remodel homeless shelters and halfway facilities.

All this and the problem grows. The more a community caters to the 'homeless' the more homeless they attract. The left doesn't care about the plight of this class of people, they only care about the appearance of charity, the power, control, and grabbing more grants and taxes, and especially re-election so the cycle can be continued.

Using Mr. Childers favorite example city, Portland, OR the legislature even reduced penalty for hard drug use and possession to a slap on the wrist. All about compassion of course. You can guess how that ended, death rates on the streets soared, dealers proliferated, crime rampant. The legislation was eventually overturned to a large degree, even the liberals feared what was happening.

The left hates people and only uses people to further a cause, or in the case of most readers of this stack, to take our money. Use your own examples of this hate, I'll take the easy one, abortion, and throw in right to die. Portland front and center again.

I'm sorry for the long reply Lori, but your spot on comment triggered me. Have a wonderful weekend, and pray for our country. We need it badly.

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Lori's avatar

I say I have 2 jobs, my regular one and the one spending time praying as it seems a constant now in so many of our lives as there is so much to pray about.

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Joanie Higgs's avatar

That type "nothing left to lose" means "freedom to live in squalor & filth".

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Rob's avatar

"Freedom" is the key word.

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Lori's avatar
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anyone who chooses or is content to be homeless should not be allowed to procreate and bring children into that shitshow. they have time for sex but not to work...

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Read El Gato Malo on this matter (today's post)

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SadieJay's avatar

It was excellent. Loved this:

"people have lost sight of the fact that life can just be simple, sane, and reasonable, that politics need not join us at the breakfast table nor in our dating lives or schools.

i do not remember a single instance of politics in my whole elementary education and certainly not any sort of sex and sexual identity talk. as far as we were aware, teachers did not even have personal lives. for all we knew, they got wheeled into closets and plugged in to recharge or hung upside-down like bats until morning. and that was good."

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Garden Lover's avatar

I knew some of my teachers were married and some weren’t, but none of it was discussed in the classroom. Nor did we discuss politics in elementary school nor were we brainwashed with and terrified by some climate change scam.

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Barnjai's avatar

However, we did get to practice "duck and cover," in case there was a nuclear attack, by squatting under our little desks.

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SadieJay's avatar

It obviously worked. Because here we are. :-)

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Mary Eve's avatar

That didn't last long.

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Garden Lover's avatar

For any type of possible danger. LOL

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RSgva's avatar

As Heather McDonald has just recalled in an article in the City Journal, “The late Democratic senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan of New York coined the phrase “defining deviancy down” in 1993 to describe the normalizing of antisocial behavior in contemporary America”. We have all been suffering from this “defining deviance down“. Including the crazy cross-dressers.

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Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

It's intentional.

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SD Scott's avatar

Just ask Kinsey - funded by Rockefeller.

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RSgva's avatar

With what objective?

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MaryAnn's avatar

I remember being astonished seeing my second grade teacher in the grocery store.😂

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SadieJay's avatar

That is hilarious.

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

I remember us debating if the nuns even peed or pooped

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sadie's avatar

Dateline or one of those types did a documentary on it... about 95% involve addiction - drugs or alcohol. Then added in is the mental illness, often induced by the chemicals they're addicted to. In a nearby city the homeless are offered beds at night and refuse them. The war on drugs was a failure because the govt invented the problem and then they ran the war against it.

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Joanie Higgs's avatar

... a fake war, at that. All the while profiting off the death and destruction they deliberately caused.

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SD Scott's avatar

Imported drugs funded the govt dark ops toppling 80+ governments worldwide. Execrable!

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Likely still do...

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Judith Cohen's avatar

I have a good friend who has driven a city bus for 25 years in Seattle and he agrees with your observation

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Doug's avatar

I've wondered for a long time how many of them started out crazy and used drugs to cope, vs. making poor choices, ending up homeless and going crazy after using too many drugs.

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Garden Lover's avatar

Nowadays, the fentanyl is so potent one dose destroys reasoning capacity.

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David Nelson's avatar

Before that it was PCP, "angel dust."

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Doug's avatar

PCP did not have that power - fentanyl is a different order of magnitude altogether.

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David Nelson's avatar

Sorry, Doug, I personally know a party whose mind was scrambled by dust and has been in assisted living for decades.

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Susie & Security's avatar

In my experience working with the homeless in NC, the vast majority of homeless are substance abusers.

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SD Scott's avatar

HHS needs to do intensive study re: nutritional & other approaches to addiction treatment. I know amino acid therapy can rectify brain chemistry.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Your comment is correct except I can’t get on board with the statement “because you refuse to get a job and be a productive member of society” line. Although there ARE those, there are also so many other reasons why people end up on the streets. But our S-elected officials have made it ok, enabled it, facilitated it, encouraged it, paid for it, and laid out a red carpet so to speak for it.

Time to rein it in. No more free pass. Time to deal with this.

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Carrie's avatar

Agree with your point that the government and local officials are a root cause supporting and allowing these people to live this way

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Non-profits that receive government funding are also not adept at curing the problem. If they somehow managed to end homelessness/addiction they’d put themselves out of business.

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Full Name's avatar

You get all the homelessness you can afford to pay for...

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Lori's avatar

Anyone can go into a restaurant and ask to clean dishes, take out the trash, clean tables for the day for some money. I would do that for someone if they were in unfortunate circumstances.

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dusty1530@comcast.net's avatar

Why can't you get on board with "because you refuse to get a job and be a productive member of society?" The Democrats are obviously the s-elected officials you are speaking of who have made it ok, enabled it, facilitated it, and encouraged it, paid for it and laid out the red carpet ALL TO GAIN REELECTION. Get rid of the Ds ... that's how you rein it in and deal with it. Not a difficult understanding Sunny

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Kat's avatar

There’s a lot of money to be made by exploiting the poor!!

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Nice try. Can’t pick and choose what I said and single it out. I couldn’t get on board with EVERY HOMELESS PERSON refuses to get a job….etc.

The rest of my statement in full context explains what I meant. Not a difficult understanding to anyone taking a paragraph in full context.

PS - If you think it is only D’s enabling the homeless (etc) you need to take a bigger view of the entire picture. Full context matters.

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Julie's avatar

Sunnydaze, I agree with you fully.

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Kat's avatar

As Jesus stated; “the poor will always be among us”. Meaning this is an incurable condition of the human race. No matter how much effort and funds are invested towards fixing it, it will always continue unabated. Nothing new under the sun.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I come from working class people on both sides of my parents. We didn't have a lot of 'stuff' - I couldn't wear Capezios and "sissy blouses" like the popular girls in school because my father couldn't afford them. We had food on the table every meal and parents who STAYED - didn't abandon us. They took us to church every Sunday and sometimes for special 'evangelistic' meetings. My father had a nasty temper - but he hated his job...and went to it faithfully for over FIFTY YEARS because he knew it was the right thing to do. I always vowed I would enter the business world - it just appealed to me as the best avenue to improve my 'lot in life'. And it did! I am ever so thankful for the upbringing I had - it taught me Godly principles and self-reliance (and leaning on the Everlasting Arms at all times for strength and direction).

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Carrie's avatar

As a fellow former poor kid, I can relate.

I recently had a work acquaintance ask for some financial help a couple Christmas ago. My husband went to the utilities companies and paid a year of utilities for her, I got her some gift cards to a grocery store and Walmart. Felt really good… charity to a known recipient. Then I found out I wasn’t the only one she asked, and ff to her facebook page with pictures of her kids opening up iPads. I thought I was helping her afford a turkey and some modest gifts. I don’t hate her for this, but I thought… wow her kids just missed out on an important lesson about the real meaning of Christmas, and they missed out on knowing what it feels like to be poor, which is a highly motivating thing. I knew I did not want to be poor when I grew up, that drove me to work hard.

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Lori's avatar

My grandma made my clothes that I wore to school until 10th grade. Other kids made fun of me but I love what she made me.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Reminds me of that popular tune that Dolly Parton sang, "Coat of Many Colors"!

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Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

I was born a coal miner's daughter in Butcher's Holler.

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Lori's avatar

Indeed! I love that song:}

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Dolly is a prime example of "coming from abject poverty" - and it drove her to excel in her chosen field of music! Now...she's a world 'icon' of love and 'all things excellent'. She gives back to the community selflessly too!

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Lori's avatar

She is beloved by many and she is an example for so many.

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CMCM's avatar

My grandmother sewed everything she wore, and for the most part, so did my mother. She taught me to sew at a young age, and she and I together made most of my clothes all the way through high school. When I look at various photos from those years, I remember making or helping make the clothes I was wearing. Making your own clothes in the 1960s wasn't unusual, and there were lots of fabric stores around town. I still have my mother's 1940's era black Singer sewing machine, which I love!

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Lori's avatar

Great memories indeed! What a priceless antique to have. Most kids today would not even know what a sewing machine is; it is truly a lost art.

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Luisa Codevilla's avatar

I love this, Lori, it’s so special. Do you still have the clothes your Grandma made?

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Lori's avatar

Oh Luisa, I wish I did. I could kick myself for not keeping them. My mom donated them to a family in need in our neighborhood as I grew out of them. My grandma also sewed a satin tag on the inside of the top of every garment that said, "Specially handmade by Grandma". I have tears in my eyes just typing that. I cherished her so dearly and miss her everyday:{.

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Luisa Codevilla's avatar

Oh bless, what a beautiful and heartwarming memory to have, the satin tag is so elegant, your Grandma must have been a very classy and thoughtful lady to do that. But what a lovely legacy she left with you to remember her always. I’m also very sentimental and this kind of stuff is so meaningful. I hope you’re smiling a bit now. I’m glad we connected, thank you! 🙏🏻

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Lori's avatar

Indeed, she was so special and beloved by God. I am so glad we connected as well and it warms my heart that you shared interest in my comment; and yes, I am smiling very heartily thanks to you.

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MaryAnn's avatar

Sharon—I bought my first pair of Capezios with money saved from skipping lunch my soph year in HS. My parents were not happy but I loved those shoes! 😍

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I carried my lunch from home to school--but I wasn't that concerned about being "popular" but I really was upset when the popular girls would tease me about my clothing. Would you believe those 'cliques' always got together at our school reunions!! How immature and sophomoric....but anyway....my 50th reunion was the last one I'll attend. The 60th was last year...I don't imagine it was very well attended as the 50th was the best attended of all that I attended.

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Johnny-O's avatar

There are a lot of homeless veterans and I'm ashamed at so many here just lumping everyone into the "lazy" or "addicted" camp.

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Carrie's avatar

We all as fallible humans are susceptible to bad behavior like laziness. That includes veterans and others who have done honorable things in their lives. By direct observation, many on the street are refusing to get jobs or take advantage of all the help that is out there. I believe all those people (even the lazy ones) are valuable human beings… but they cannot be violating the laws like they are, it’s not good for law abiding citizens or for the street dwellers.

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Donna in MO's avatar

I can't remember the title of the book, but our church had a 'community read' about 20 years ago that shifted the homeless ministry. The gist of the book was that meal/blanket/clothing distribution events in homeless camp areas is just akin to 'giving a drunk a drink'. It allows the problem to fester, as people are kept 'alive' but they are not really living. They don't have to face up to their addictions/problems that led them down that path, or deal with their mental health issues as long as they have a basic existence. But that existence does not include hope or a path out. All of the people I know who have beaten addiction have said they hit a 'rock bottom' moment. Not all are dramatic. One was as simple as waking up in his car and not remembering how he got there. Some lost everything, spouse, home, job - before recognizing they had to do something. It's sad but until forced to change, most of us won't. Letting people eke out a miserable existence in these camps is not compassion, it's the easy button.

Interestingly, the liberal rag in our big city (KC) did a fair, apolitical long form story about a year ago with an interview with the city's 'homeless coordinator' (or some title like that). Basically said the same thing. He said a very small % are just temporarily down on their luck and those are 'easy' as there are programs that can help them. But most are long term problems where he spends most of his time just trying to build enough trust with people to get them to see a different path. And if that doesn't work, forcing them out is the only answer.

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Carrie's avatar

In our community, there have been a couple hotels converted into housing for the “unhoused”… they have been trashed, almost burnt down, and obviously unappreciated by the recipients… supporting your analogy of giving a drink to a drunk

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

When 'vagrants' would approach me as I walked downtown for lunch (I worked for a law office in the city that was about 15 miles from my small hometown) I would direct them to the Rescue Mission rather than hand them money (which really I couldn't afford anyway). They would "humpf" and complain that then they'd have to listen to the "preacher man" before they could stay there, get a free meal and a free, clean bed in which to spend the night. I nodded my head "yes" and walked away. I didn't feel like I had failed to 'feel' for the vagrant's predicament--I just knew the rescue mission had a wonderful ministry and felt the suggestion was helpful.

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dusty1530@comcast.net's avatar

Sharon beautiful story...

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Donna in MO's avatar

Local residents in South KC (blue city but South is closer to purple) beat back a proposal by the city to buy a hotel and turn it into a shelter in 2023. Area businesses (already fed up with the spike in crime) and residents in the area (seeing their neighborhood decline) locked arms and got loud and the city backed down. Later that year though voters in that same area elected a leftist to the city council who was part of a slate sponsored by KC Tenants, a left wing group! I actually knew his opponent, I grew up in South KC and his mom was friends with my mom - very moderate Democrat who ran on common sense reforms. And LOST. Some people never learn.

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MaryAnn's avatar

Donna—I would appreciate your assessment of the Sun Fresh Market that had to close in KC.

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Donna in MO's avatar

Yes, now that you mention it, I was asked by a city council member to help her come up with some talking points about 6-7 years ago when a small faction was starting to press them for starting a shelter in our town. Was very disappointed that Ben Carson (who was heading up HUD at the time) had not done anything to reverse HUD's 'housing first' policy. The guidance basically said housing is a right and people should get a place to live no strings attached and THEN address whatever issues they had. Funding for transitional housing (where you get a free place to live but comes with a ban on booze or drugs, require you to have a job, and take classes in 'life skills' like budgeting, cooking, parenting, etc) had been gutted in favor of housing first. We DO have several transitional housing non profits in our community with high success rates. I also looked at camping ordinances that, at the time were mired in various legal challenges around the country.

Fortunately, the council response at the time was to budget for a 'interventionist' position with the police department. This person approaches a panhandler, or person sleeping on the street, and politely but firmly tells them about resources that are available, says 'you can't be here' and either offers them a ride somewhere or tells them to move along. It's not 'advertised' (so as not to activate the lefties to complain) but it does work at keeping such issues from getting out of control. I did a ride-along in 2022 and the officer I was riding with called in the interventionist when she got a call about a guy who'd been loitering a couple of days around an industrial area. Turns out his girlfriend kicked him out and had no place to stay. Ended up making calls and found a cousin a few towns away who said he could stay and the officer drove him there. Speculated drug problems (and maybe a couple of car breakins that had been reported) but he appeared sober at the time. Bottom line message sent: don't hang out HERE.

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Donna Oliphint's avatar

“When Helping Hurts” by Steve Corbett and Brian Fikkert

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Donna in MO's avatar

Yes, I think that was it.

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Full Name's avatar

To be fair, getting a job today is nothing like it was 50-75 years ago. Back then people could walk into a business, ask for work and if there was any available they could be pushing a broom, washing dishes or cleaning a motel room within 15 minutes. No so today-

I often think of the old Roger Miller hit, King of the Road. "Two hours of pushin' broom, buys an 8 by 12 four-bit room"...

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Yes, it is harder although people are less likely to hold on to jobs. My son is a production mgr for a mfg plant not far from an area where homeless tend to gather. The owners of the company have a policy to hire 'second chance' workers for entry level positions. The pay is not great and it is hard work but if they last 6 months they can be trained for more skilled, better paying positions. Many don't last after a week. Get a paycheck and disappear. Or work a few weeks and are gone. Leave and go to their car for a nap in the middle of their shift. Oh some take advantage of the opportunity and are successful. Most are just a headache my son has to manage.

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Carrie's avatar

People fail to see the big long term picture unfortunately. That entry level job can lead to higher pay and more responsibilities if someone has just a little patience.

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Donna in MO's avatar

Even fast food can be that way. I worked fast food all through HS and college. Started as a 'fry girl' at 15. By the summer before my last year of college I was a 'fill in manager' and traveled around to various stores to fill in for vacations/days off for store management and made almost twice the min wage at the time. Most FT store managers had just a HS diploma but had worked up to those roles and made good salaries with benefits. My assertion then was if you are in your 20's and still at an entry level role, look inward. Those who were dependable, hard working, and could get along with people and the public (not easy, there are a lot of a-holes out there) can move up. Random no-shows, attitude and laziness will keep you at entry level.

Think this is changing, though. My son followed my same trajectory and was a manager for Sonic when he was going to college ~10 years ago, and the pay differential was far from double min wage. He made about $4/hr more than he did as a shift supervisor. So wages have not kept up and seeing a lot of posts on our community FB page for young people who are really struggling to find even entry level employment, or have a HS diploma only and looking to find jobs that pay enough to live on. I do think the massive influx of illegals has kept wages artificially low in the entry level/low skill roles. People can make more on public assistance and it seems old fashioned to say that all work has dignity and purpose. Employers can be hesitant to invest in training and development as people don't stick around, turnover in most industries is higher than it used to be as people are no longer loyal and employers aren't either, jettisoning jobs at the first whiff of downturn. Post secondary skills acquisition (not necessarily college degree) like a welding certification, can help, but things are changing fast and you have be a life long learner just to tread water.

Will be interesting to see how this 'jobs coming back to the US' effort pans out. I'm a few years from retirement and it seems like things really ARE tougher for those getting started in the workforce,.

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MaryAnn's avatar

A member of the staff at my church, M, is a former homeless veteran. He had substance abuse issues that led to his homessness. He also spent time incarcerated. M’s mission is to help our LEOs with the local homeless population.

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

Here in Oregon … specifically Eugene, most of the vast amount of homeless leave dumps. They walk in front of cars, they use the sidewalks and public areas as bathrooms, and when they move on they leave half of their dump. I did see one the other day use a broom and was cleaning up his area, so there is the occasional person. None of us knows whether they are veterans or not ( I have a family of veterans and my son is currently deployed in east Africa). But my guess is the majority here are addicted and mentally ill. We had a law change that made it legal to do whatever drugs you wanted, so they all came here. There are places for these people, but the usual catch is that they need to choose to make getting clean a priority.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Oregon is a disaster. When they legalized it (and I still maintain the people did not vote it in, but the S-election process happened and they made it “voted” in and/or they made the wording so difficult to understand to manipulate votes that people voted in favor when they were against legalizing drugs) it’s no wonder homeless drug abusers came from all over. It’s either pure stupidity or calculated intentions. In my opinion it is calculated intentions and the blue print for the rest of the country on how to ruin and destroy a state. And it started with mail in ballots decades ago.

Good news is: Scott Pressler has Oregon, Washington and California on his radar and is headed that way soon! Can’t remember exact timing but he is coming soon!

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John of Oregon Fame's avatar

I'm anxious to see Scott get something started here in Oregon.

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Carrie's avatar

I’ve witnessed public urination and sex acts

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GreatScott44's avatar

If a Vet is homeless today it is likely by choice. There are over 14 programs to assist with housing. More than likely they are addicted and refuse help.

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

That makes sense and fits the examples I have personal knowledge of. My friend’s son , a former marine, is 42, has been through every program to help him get a life, and none of it has worked.

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Kat's avatar

In TN I worked with agencies to secure housing, rehab centers and all other services to help genuine veterans. Most were jobless/homeless due to their own bad behavior. DUIs not showing up to court unpaid fines etc. It could took thousands of dollars to get their license back in order to gain employment. Our VFW chapter gave lots of money to get veterans back on their feet again, and we weren’t the only organization in that process.

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Kathy's avatar

Or mentally ill.

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Aloha50's avatar

Likely caused by drugs

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SD Scott's avatar

Sometimes the prescription kind.

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CH's avatar

Ashamed at so many? Well, go somewhere else. It is a free country, afterall.

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Johnny-O's avatar

Are you a good little fascist and would like to see homeless veterans locked up? That is the road we are currently heading down.

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Porge's avatar

Oooo Johnny, you just revealed yourself with the " little fascist " remark. We all know what your act is. We love our veterans here! So why don't you take your TDS over to Adam Kinzinger's substack...he's probably paying you to be here anyway.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

O Johnny is so transparent, you can see right through him. He doesn’t even read what Jeff writes. He’s just here to spew

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Johnny-O's avatar

Willing, if you can take off your partisan glasses for a second and humor me:

Bondi literally said that arresting the sandwich thrower is taking down deep state actors. They are literally laughing at you. No Epstein, no 911, but you do get a sandwich thrower who is going to go to jail. They are laughing at you and rubbing your faces in it and you don't even realize it.

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Lori's avatar

Porge JO has revealed himself tntc. He is a boring with the SSDD nonsense. Ignore him and maybe if we are blessed, he will go away and if not, he will continue to be the anal fissure that he is.

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Porge's avatar

Lol 😆, good one Lori! But it's hard to ignore an anal fissure!🤣

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Johnny-O's avatar

No, I'm just don't fall for the partisan nonsense and don't idolize politicians. All the knee jerk reactions come from people who can take no criticism of their idol Trump. It's truly pathetic, as politicians are supposed to be public servants, which seems to escape you despite your claimed enormous intelligence over me.

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Johnny-O's avatar

Most here, including you, seem to buy into the two party circus show, which is why you love coming here and parading around pointing fingers at the "enemy." The enemy is the circus, but you are just part of it and don't realize it.

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CH's avatar

Obviously, you are very low IQ and have no other way to argue your point effectively except to start calling names. Since you opened the door on this, how about posting some legitimate source that says homeless veterans are going to be locked up?

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Lori's avatar

CH, ignore JO, is truly is one of the mentally askew.

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Johnny-O's avatar

Are you telling me there is a provision in the law that excludes veterans? Don't be so obtuse.

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Michael Srite's avatar

Are you concerned some people will see homeless veterans and conclude joining up may not be the right thing for themselves or their kids?

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Carolyn's avatar

No one is doing that. You always try to stir the pot.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

O Johnny-thanks, but no thanks for the Demonrat Talking Points for the day.🤮

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OnTheJump's avatar

Agreed.

Definitely a topic that fits the proverb:

" Before you judge someone, walk a mile in their shoes."

Some need help and are deserving......

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Aloha50's avatar

It's true. Most are addicts which also makes them lazy and unable to hold a job.

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alongername's avatar

the way you have written your comment is IMO being misinterpreted ....... as the CH reply indicates .

i got your meaning.......... but some may be confused

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Jamie's avatar

Indeed. It’s a hard subject, but holding signs doesn’t repair the damage. It looks like doing the hard work to give a hand up to those truly in need and the only way I have found to differentiate those in true need is to get in the muck with them.

When I fell ill I was one of those people. It was impossible with God, but He is the God of the impossible.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Further, the fellow holding the Proverbs 14:31 sign carelessly omitted the second clause of that verse. Funny, that.

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Juju's avatar
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The thing is they are conflating ending homeless camps on the street as despising your neighbor. If I despised them I would never care about leaving them in the streets. I want them to have a safe and comfortable place to sleep, get a meal, and receive drug or mental health care if needed. We certainly had enough money all these years to build and maintain award worthy homeless shelters and provide security to them, but most of our tax dollars went to make scumbags rich or richer while leaving the homeless to fend for themselves. Corrupt government leaders are the ones who truly despise their neighbor.

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NotaBot's avatar

He looks somewhat like a performative male…

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

It's not that they're just poor. It's that they have alienated every relative and friend who might help them get a job and place to live, for two main reasons:

1. drug addiction (often resulting in stealing from family members, who then kick them out)

2. severe mental illness

The answers are to imprison the drug addicts:

https://patrick.net/post/1378398/2023-01-27-the-secret-to-ending-homelessness

And to do what we can for the mentally ill without holding them against their will unless they are a clear danger to themselves or others.

But we must be very cautious about institutions which get funding proportional to the number of people they hold against their will. Mental hospitals already hold people who should be free, just to soak their insurance for as much as they can get. Happened to a relative of mine. And for-profit prisons bribe judges to send them more prisoners.

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Billy Bob's avatar

I myself have worked through several tough situations in my life. It was definitely not fun but I kept trying to move forward and in the end it all worked out really well. I thank THE ALMIGHTY everyday.

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Jessica Libolt's avatar

Meanwhile there are real Christians helping people who actually need & want help. If you are living on the streets in America, it’s because you refuse to get off drugs/alcohol.

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Mayor's avatar

One only needs to look at the behavior to see the majority of homeless are addicts or mentally ill. It bothers me that local government, law officers, NGOs, and activists defend the “rights” of these “unhoused” individuals, but not the rights of ordinary citizens to live free from interference of these individuals. A drive into downtown of any medium to large city means, at the minimum, you will exposed to used needles in parking lots, being accosted by bums begging for money, crazies yelling at cars passing by and stepping off the sidewalk into traffic?Civil society is not moving forward; it’s moving backward.

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Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

Re: RussiaGate .... how did those "Russian Trolls" who don't even speak English as a first language compose so many Facebook posts that instantly convinced everyone who saw one of these posts to change their vote from Hillary to Trump?

And how many people on Facebook actually saw one of those powerful posts?

Why hasn't any politician since then hired those guys if they can create a few memes for $100,000 that can swing an entire national election?

The Russian Facebook trolls are awesome - much more effective than pricey political consultants like James Carville and Brannon and what's-his-name who worked for the Bushes and was on Fox News every night for 8 years.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Bullcrap... they have already proven that your allegations are BS.

And compared to the massive radical left's various election FRAUD and TAMPERING operations, including Russia-gate, ballot box stuffing, closing down counting centers to "adjust" vote totals with Chines ballots, massive mail-in voting FRAUD... crooked census, crooked voter rolls... the Russian facebook myth is laughable.

Pull your head out, you pathetic lefty worm!

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Kathy's avatar

I do worry about the severely damaged veterans that are among that population.

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Carrie's avatar

Hopefully with a focus on this problem, the ones who want help can get it, and get themselves out of these dangerous situations

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Janet's avatar

They care so much why don’t some of them take one home and give them a real bed in a real home. Nope, they will walk away after doing their bit of virtue signaling to the comforts of their own home.

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Padrig's avatar

Paid to Protest: It would be interesting to know if these are paid protesters in D.C., but the 'media' doesn't ask. Perhaps, if this is the case, the company that hired these people can be held liable for their actions. Or even the entity that hired the company that hired the protesters.

This is a genius move by TAW, even if it is not tied to other things. Actual ACTION from an R politician is unheard of. Unreal. Surreal even. For years R voters would elect them because there wasn't a viable alternative. The Rs would get in office on a promise that no one believed would ever be fulfilled.

TAW is beating them at their own game now. Back when the WSJ was reasonable (relative to the others anyway) an article called Best of The Web Today wrote about how whenever an R was elected the media would trot out the army of millions of homeless and the stories would disappear while the Donkey was in office.

* Could TAW actually flit the deepstate homebase to vote R? This could wake them!

* It tears down the veil from all other big cities.

* It is a good opportunity for E. Adams to ask TAW for help in NYC. Clean all of the cities. Adams needs to show them the alternative just like TAW is showing D.C. (and the rest of the country).

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Dwell in the Land's avatar

Great Substack to follow on how the homelessness industrial complex works and insights into REAL solutions (spoiler alert: not housing first):

https://truthonthestreets.substack.com/

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Multiple grand juries??!!!!!

THAT’s what I voted for!

BOOM! 💥

BRING. IT. ON.

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David Roberts's avatar

Honestly between cleaning up the entire government and Epstein, I’ll take govt first, Epstein later (not never, just later). There needs to be examples made of criminals in our own govt.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I agree! If we can FINALLY see some big arrests - I can wait on Epstein’s pedo and blackmail trafficking operation. But “not never, just later” 👍🏻

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Annie's avatar

I will bet there's a lot of overlapping between government crimes and epstein crimes. So get them everyday you can.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

As energetic as Trump’s administration is, the energy still needs to be focused. So, yeah, Epstein can wait. He’s dead, his girlfriend enabler is in prison and his victims have split half a Billion dollars.

Don Surber wrote about the Democrats weaponizing Epstein today and it’s good stuff.

https://open.substack.com/pub/donsurber/p/meep-meep?r=8sw74&utm_medium=ios

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Seeking Grace's avatar

@Willing Spirit love Surber! Former “real” newsman out of West Virginia, for those unfamiliar with him. Great, Jeff-like snarky sense of humor with a heaping dose of real journalism.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I’m starting to make time to read him.

Today he said “French is as bright as a blackhole. The light goes in, but it never gets out. His brain is a Roach Motel for intelligent thoughts.” That’s some good stuff”

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Jake's avatar

I found Mr Surber a long time ago and I'm in the habit of reading him first because he posts around 6am. I have to wait a couple of hours to read Jeffs thoughts. It's all good stuff with very few trolls...

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Sunnydaze's avatar

That was a good read. He’s right too.

Honestly the more the left makes a big issue out of Epstein the better off we are. If Trump had any part with Epstein they would have already used it. They got nothing. The conservatives have been yelling for years to release it all. Crickets from the left. Now the left are yelling. Maybe this is part of the same plan—Prep the people. Get them ALL wanting the files so bad they can taste it. Then release them. When you have the peoples support and they are awake -things happen!

I’m discouraged by the non release and lie that he killed himself - but hopeful things are happening behind the scenes for maximum benefit. If the rogue judges are still in place then nobody pays for their crimes. Slap on the wrist. Criminals still criminal. If the people are not unified by wanting the truth what good does it do to release it and have what we have now (brain dead people still clamoring) for Kamela and Obummer)?

Get the majority on the same page -even if they don’t realize how bad their side is (and I’m talking D’s and R’s). Then hit hard. Clean house!

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Joanie Higgs's avatar

"If Trump had any part with Epstein they would have already used it."

So many have said this without thinking it through. They'd hold back from it for dear life, because opening that can of worms would risk exposing them all. But I don't think Trump had anything to do with the Island or its associated activities.

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Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

If they 'show' the evidence, they are showing or revealing a massive criminal conspiracy. They can't show the evidence on anybody.

And the last thing they'd want to do is question any of the Johns and then, God forbid, prosecute them and charge them with crimes that would have to be publicized.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Good thought. Except why would they now scream and yell to get it released if they are so worried about exposing themselves? 🤨 This is the big question. None of it makes sense.

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Kathy's avatar

Sometimes I wonder if they’re waiting until after the midterm elections.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I think just BEFORE mid terms.

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Rob's avatar

My fear is that the Epstein problem & the Govt are the entwined together like a hand in a glove. They are not ALL pedos but enough, they are high in the govt and and they really want to keep that quiet.

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Kathy's avatar

I have a hunch that Israel and Massad are involved.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

For SURE... the 911 file release was cancelled... small wonder why:

https://www.unz.com/article/israel-did-9-11/

Epstein and JFK files... same reason.

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Joanie Higgs's avatar

Yes, and not to mention the Mossad connection.

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Doug's avatar

What difference does it make whether they do time for election interference or for pedo activity? As long as they do the time...

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Anne Emerson Hall's avatar

Living and prospering criminals at that!

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Abiding Dude's avatar

The way they are handling Gilly Maxwell... putting her in a far nicer location and giving her "work-release"... something stinks BAD.

A deal is being made to protect someone(s) VERY high up.

My bet is they NEVER release the true facts... for the same reason they torpedoed the 911 and JFK files release... they all three deeply involve MOSSAD.

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Annie's avatar

When one grand jury agrees there's enough to go ahead with a trial then other rats will sing and squeal and try to cut deals until the big players are taken down too.

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Jake's avatar

No doubt that's already happening. Some have a terminal case of TDS so they'll be martyrs for the cause but there's always some that saw what was going on and kept quiet for fear of the immediate consequences.

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Robin Esau's avatar

I know, right?! Wow!!

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

But do not forget EPSTEIN even for a moment.

The EPSTEIN case is at the very core of American corruption, the elephant in the room.

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Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

It was one of the few cases with the potential to drain a good bit of the swamp.

When everybody who matters was guilty of crimes, or was an accomplice, or covered up the operation, nobody is going to go down.

It's like the Covid crimes. There's too many perpetrators to prosecute even 5 percent of them - so you don't bother prosecuting even one.

Everyone knows there's safety in great numbers.

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

So the answer is to start by prosecuting one of them.

Say Bill Clinton in the Epstein case:

https://slaynews.com/news/bill-clinton-named-prime-suspect-jeffrey-epstein-investigation/

And say Fauci in the Wuhan Virus case.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

I suspect they will NEVER prosecute anyone for the Epstein stuff...

Why? Because FAR too many big names are guilty, both sides of the aisle.

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

I'm afraid you're right, but this is exactly why it's so important to keep the Epstein corruption in the spotlight at all times.

Their obstinate refusal to administer justice must result in a complete loss of legitimacy in the eyes of the public, and ultimately the complete replacement of government with one that takes justice seriously.

The right to rule comes from an impartial commitment from justice. Without that, there is only a mafia in power, one that should not be obeyed in anything.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Sadly... I wonder when the last time we had a "fully impartial commitment from (to?) justice"...

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Roger Beal's avatar

"You can't be a hero and eat it, too" ... vintage Friday Childers. Thank you, Mister Jeff, for never disappointing us with your linguistic shenanigans!

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Annie's avatar

That video of "captain gyro" running was hilarious. 😂😂 My husband said he heard the guy's pink shorts were cuffed. He said is that thing? I said not in most manly men circles. 😂 Libbies are entertaining 🤣

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Susie & Security's avatar

Funny you say that, Annie. I was just thinking: because there is nothing decent to watch on TV anymore, just scroll through X. The posts surpass many other forms of entertainment. No cable bill necessary.

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Lori's avatar

And what was with that guys bobbing up and down while cussing out the cop? He looked like he was 2 and had to go to the bathroom. Yes, and pink shorts.....next.

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

You can't believe what you read. You can't believe what you hear. Now, you can't even believe what you SEE. Fun times.

To wit, my wife, who is light years beyond my dull faculties and a far better human than I can ever hope to be - at least she hasn't resorted to throwing any deli meat in my general direction - inexplicably, continues to insist on my company. Having been joined together during the Cretaceous Period in the sight of several curious, if not slightly befuddled, Iguanodons this is perplexing behavior indeed. If anyone deserves to be plunked in the head with a genoa and cheese on rye it's me. Something's amiss...or rather, awry. I'm presently scouring her face for suspect freckles and the house for vacated pods.

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Annie's avatar

What lack of reality and or mental condition makes you think it's a good idea to throw anything at a guy in tactical gear, surrounded by others in same gear, who could kick your butt without breaking a sweat? My husband and I are astounded. Never mind it's assauting a federal officer. 😲Liberalism is a mental disease.😉

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Slightly to the left of bat shit looney. Corrupted DNA, I reckon.

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Jenn's avatar

😂

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Jake's avatar

Most of us who imbibe in beer a little too much understand completely the circumstances where you do something incredibly stupid.

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HHM's avatar

Or a spiritual disease

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Karmy's avatar

Darwin Award recipient.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

It is also a disease to not order the Cops to beat anyone bloody and unconscious if they physically assault them at all.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Did you notice him stomping his feet first? My husband would say ‘what a pussy’. 😆 I’m wondering where his tote bag and doll are 🤔

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Mine are in my lingerie cubby. 😘

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Beautiful, it would be my new favorite, if I saw it in person!

Florida, right?

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Yupper. I’ve only seen it twice. It's pretty crowded at the feeders. I don't think it's a fan of a lot of ruckus.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

That makes sense, something so colorful would be a target for nefarious creatures, kinda like Orange Man.

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Nefarious Creatures. These awesome band names just keep coming.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

😆

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Had one of these show up at the feeder. Painted Bunting. Cool little bird.

https://abcbirds.org/bird/painted-bunting/

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

I love Painted Buntings! My parents had an enormous bird feeder setup by their diningroom window. My mother kept a journal of what birds came to dine and the time of day... she did this for many years. Yes, she was graced with a single Painted Bunting every year, around the same time of day. I was blessed to have seen him several years in a row. After our parents passed I continued to add seed to the bird feeders and fresh sugar water to the hummingbird feeders on a regular basis. After the house sold I left a note for the buyers, including a large bag of black sunflower seed... needless to say, it fell on deaf ears. I drove by the house last February and saw the Meyer lemons trees full of rotten fruit and the feeders empty of seed and any activity... That broke my heart.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

That would be so sad to see. Never drive by there again. What a wonderful memory you have of your mother.

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Elizabeth Sexworth's avatar

Plus he’s wearing a pink shirt. Only a few men can pull that off.

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Gloria Magee's avatar

I think we do a disservice to manly men on this point. My hubby referees volleyball and every October schools have cancer awareness games and the refs are given permission to wear pink shirts to ref to the delight of the players. I also have a son and son in law with daughters that make their daughters so happy when they wear pink (and purple) shirts to go along with their daughters outfits. There is no one more manly than a loving father.

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Jenn's avatar

A MESH pink shirt on top of it all! What a prima-donna. 😂

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Full Name's avatar

Thanks for making me cringe anew at the repressed memory of having to wear a pink shirt with RUFFLES in my best bud's wedding (to a female) 50 years ago. At least he had the decency to buy the shirts and let us keep them. Not that he could have gotten a red cent out of them had he tried to sell 'em after the fact. Bet if I still had it I could find a buyer somewhere on the Left Coast nowadays.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Call me crazy, but I kinda like a pink shirt. Has to be cotton though.

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Elizabeth Sexworth's avatar

And not on that dude!

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Kathy's avatar

I do love a MANLY man with a tan wearing a pink shirt! But you are right, not everyone can pull it off.

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Lori's avatar

yes, that guy is pussified.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

I like that, I’ll use it next time my husband makes that comment.

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Lori's avatar

The pussification of men has been very hard to witness{. My daughter told me of a young man at her school that shaves his pits, legs and private areas. Oi Vey, get real....

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Politico Phil's avatar

lol

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ZuZu’s Petals's avatar

Eric, you’re killing me. My stomach hurts with laughter.

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

My apologies. Don't sue me! It is from great pain that we grow....or vomit.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

It’s a Bee joke about Pritzker. Funnier than anything today, well except Jeff, Eric and all of us of course.

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reality speaks's avatar

The DOJ criminal needs to be held in solitary confinement just like the Jan 6th people were. All of his friends inside of the DOJ need to be under surveillance as well. Want his bank records too.

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Annie's avatar

Nah. Throw him in general population or with Maryland men. He can show off his running skills. He runs like a girl. Lol. 😉

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Lori's avatar

And make sure he is wearing his pink over the knee shorties!!

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Paige Green's avatar

He also throws like a girl 😂

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Jpeach's avatar

That DOJ Subway Felon needs a pink jumpsuit, thrown into the DC Gulag, with a cell full of sex offenders.

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Melissa S's avatar

I’m kind of wondering if he might like that…..Those pink shorts seem to be sending a message. I don’t know anything about pink shorts other than I don’t know any man who would willingly put them on.

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Jake's avatar

Maybe an older golfer. You see some weird attire on the golf course sometimes.

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MadChimp's avatar

My Dad never made it to college, although he was a brilliant man. Instead he went to a CCC camp, to build fire roads in the woods of Maine during the Great Depression. Other than a couple of dollars for toiletries, his wages were sent home to save the family farm.

His CCC "home" was made of logs; the dining table was made of hand-sawn planks. He and his fellow workers made them. The Government provided tools and nails. They took turns cooking, and bringing-in water - - and cut fire-roads still in use today.

As a child my brothers, sisters and I visited the farm, helped bring-in hay, and enjoy my Grandmother's biscuits, baked in a wood-fired cast-iron stove. I am proud of my father’s life, and proud of my heritage - - proud of a country that returned self-respect and purpose to the hopeless.

Make your children proud of you.

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DR CD's avatar

PLEASE WRITE A BOOK ABOUT THIS. YOU HAVE TALENT & WE NEED TO HEAR THESE STORIES! (PLEASE FORGIVE IF YOU ARE ALREADY A PUBLISHED AUTHOR.)

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MadChimp's avatar

Many thanks for the kind words. The stories are lived and written everywhere (most recently and famously by our Vice President). The sad fact they have not ignited the fire we 'old folks' hope for in our progeny is a cruel irony - - .

Having learned a healthy work ethic, through stories of the Great Depression, and the horrors of WWII, Viet Nam, etc., we 'Boomers' missed key lessons - - . Rather than preserve the work ethic, we dedicated our lives to make our children's lives 'easier' - 'happier'- and forgot to teach the consequences of inattention (Jefferson did his best to remind us).

The story of war is told most poignantly by the silent 1000-yard stare of veterans who have lived through them - - can not bear to re-live them. There is no glory in war. There is 'victory' and there is 'defeat', bravery and cowardice, but not 'glory', and never joy. War can be necessary - - in the rarest of circumstances, when all other options have been tried - - and failed. War is the ultimate declaration of failure.

If you like my 'stuff' - - have a look/sign-up at madchimp.substack.com. I have no intention of going 'commercial'. If one person can find something worthwhile, worth considering in anything I write, I have done all I wanted to do - - -

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Deanne Driscoll's avatar

This is so true. My mother died in childbirth of twin sons. I was two my older siblings, seven, six, and four. My father was an older man and had just recovered from a stroke. Somehow we all grew up and became productive adults however, I spent years trying to be the mother I never had. I did too much for my children and although they are college educated they are soft. I cringe at how their own children are spoiled and sometimes abusive, certainly disrespectful. This is a big problem in the world today. (IMHO).

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AJF's avatar

Deanne, thank you for your honesty.

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MadChimp's avatar

@Deanne Driscoll Tricky business, finding ‘balance’ between discipline and nurturing, leniency and resolve, hardness and softness. The lines were more rigidly drawn a couple of generations ago, which eased some conflicts and gave rise to others.

It was my good fortune to be raised in a family a generation removed from Victorian era male domination. In that previous era ‘nurturing’ was shunned as ‘weakness’ (more specifically, “female weakness”), and was applied to child-rearing in hushed tones, to avoid offending ‘The Master’, - - where children were required to be “seen, and not heard”, and the very thought of women voting was preposterous! (Exaggerated, but not by much).

In 1950s unwritten responsibilities of men and women, and the natural conflicts of living as a family gave rise to a different social order. Dad was, without question, the ‘head’ of the family, and Mom was (also without question) in charge of teaching compassion, compromise, ‘fairness’ - - and ‘negotiation’.

Mom was the ‘children’s solicitor’ in the court of appeals, where cases were heard IN PRIVATE, and decisions handed down ‘through Mom’ to plaintiffs. Details of ‘court proceedings’ were not available to plaintiffs - - matters of morality, financial viability, convenience, were not made available to children too young to understand their import - - decisions were a simple, ‘yes’, or ‘no’. It was understood that all parties accepted the decision of the court.

I believe the system under which I was raised has its’ origins in genetic conditioning dating back to homo sapiens’ “hunter/gather” origins, and to oppose the ‘natural’ familial relationships of Father, Mother and offspring sets up conflict that has far-reaching, detrimental effects. I will be surprised if we don’t agree on the point - - that is what I saw in your comment, and I would be very pleased if that thought were more widely accepted. (Note: Opinion influenced by “The Naked Ape”, c. 1967, Desmond Morris).

So my heart went out to you (a bit) when I noticed a note of regret in your comment - - caused by circumstance over which you had no control - - but still made the point that as children develop, they need balance that can only be provided where senses of duty, discipline, compassion, and morality play their parts, and (by inference) that that melding is best provided by a Mother AND Father, in a stable home.

Please forgive my presumption if I have overstated your intention, and accept my thanks if I got it right. It was just too good to let go by without comment - -

MC

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Deanne Driscoll's avatar

Yes thank you for your response. Because my father was similarly, (hard nosed but brilliant having been orphaned at 14 but still manage to earn 2 PhDs from the University of Chicago), cut from the same generational cloth he was only one side of an important coin. He did raise us to be good humans even though or because he was tough. We all learned how to do important tasks at an early age. Three girls, three boys divided work in the home. The boys enlisted during war, (Nam), and we all attended college. Two of my three children also served and the third married an army officer. (So she served as well). I have 10 grandchildren. I make a point of doing things with them without the interference of their parents. I am fortunate to live on a farm where they can be device free if only for a moment. I have tried to share some of the skills my father taught me from swinging a hammer, mudding Sheetrock, changing a tire, and of course caring for the land and livestock. When my husband was living he taught them about investing and what to do with the monies they earned working for grandpa. My only complaint is how they treat their parents? I don’t understand why my children put up with it? Is discipline so out of fashion today? How do we change that? Maybe I was too hard on my own children without realizing? Did all the tours of duty change my own children’s ability to discipline? It’s just curious to me.

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MadChimp's avatar

No ‘snappy reply’ to that one. On a visit to Germany several years ago, the tour operator arranged opportunities for tourist couples to take a student from Heidelberg University to lunch, which turned out to be a great idea. Our lunch guest was a young lady studying history.  She was poised and articulate, with impeccable manners.  She was also well aware of the world around her, and  had no problem holding up her end of the conversation with my wife (who is an Icelander) regarding Iceland’s place in European politics and standing in European soccer, as well as US politics and North Africans migration into Europe - - .  Somewhere along the line, it appears we have let US standards slip - - replaced recognition of academic excellence with attendance awards, replaced merit-based advancement with ‘inclusion’, and disciplined, results oriented social objectives with  tolerance for laissez-faire anarchy. 

“Laissez-faire is a type of economic system in which transactions between private groups of people are free from any form of economic interventionism. As a system of thought, laissez-faire rests on the following axioms: "the individual is the basic unit in society, i.e., the standard of measurement in social calculus; the individual has a natural right to freedom; and the physical order of nature is a harmonious and self-regulating system. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laissez-faire” Did our children abdicate their parental authority/duties in the belief they were “freeing” their children to “become themselves”?  I find myself sympathizing, but with my parents, as I left home to take my place in the world with some unkind comments on the subject of Dad’s insistence on ‘controlling’ me. (Sigh!) Was it always thus?

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Bgagnon's avatar

Excellent! I share memories of my family who were the same kind of stock as yours and they were all immigrants who fought to come here and work long hard hours to become citizens. They loved America!

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Ruth H's avatar

Your Dad reminds me of my Dad. Very proud of him and he was definitely a hard worker living on a farm through childhood. Dad also lived through the Depression as a young man learning the value of savings, which he passed onto his children. I’m 75 and still can’t break the habit of saving a little each month.

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DR CD's avatar

CALLING ALL DOCUMENTARY FILM MAKERS. TAKE NOTE, PLEASE! LOOK AT ALL THE RICH HERITAGE IN THESE HANDFUL OF SNIPPETS. THE STORIES WRITE THEMSELVES. WE ARE AT A PIVOTAL POINT IN OUR HISTORY. WE MUST "TAKE THE PEOPLE TO SCHOOL" & RESTORE THE VALUES OF OUR FOUNDATION THROUGH ENLIGHTENMENT. GET THE POPULATION OFF THE DEVICES. YOU CAN BE A LIGHTHOUSE. WHY NOT YOU? THANK YOU, ANYONE OUT THERE, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION!! PS PEOPLE WILL SUPPORT YOUR PROJECT. YOU WILL BE ASTOUNDED. DON'T HESITATE. WITH THE 250TH ANNIVERSARY OF OUR COUNTRY, WHAT BETTER TIMING.

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MadChimp's avatar

In 2006 the University of Maine commissioned a documentary in which my Mother and living Uncles gave interviews about their lives living on a lighthouse in Maine during the depression era. It was/is intended to do exactly what you suggest. You can download it by following this link https://ufile.io/8hb4bbr5

They are all gone now, and we are pleased to have their recollections of a time either "long gone" or "only yesterday", depending on your perspective - - -

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PS - - I checked the download. If you stick with the 'free' download it will take several minutes to complete. Check progress, and you will see it hasn't forgotten you. Be patient, and it will appear in your downloads folder

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Charles Swannell's avatar

I hope you have as much fun writing this column as I do reading it. A great was to begin a morning. Thanks for the Truth/Humor package.

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Robin Esau's avatar

I think Jeff does....and he absolutely must love how much we enjoy it. I've never see a guy so engaged with his "audience." He has created a family, indeed!

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Mini-mum's avatar

Good Friday morning everyone!

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My Favorite Things's avatar

❤️🌷❤️ congratulations ❤️🌷❤️

Your day is off to a wonderful start!

The Best Thing In The World

What's the best thing in the world?

June-rose, by May-dew impearled;

Sweet south-wind, that means no rain;

Truth, not cruel to a friend;

Pleasure, not in haste to end;

Beauty, not self-decked and curled

Till its pride is over-plain;

Light, that never makes you wink;

Memory, that gives no pain;

Love, when, so, you're loved again.

What's the best thing in the world?

—Something out of it, I think.

-Elizabeth Barrett Browning

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Mini-mum's avatar

It is! Coffee in hand, cooler temps this morning, blue skies, birds chirping, AND I managed the coup d’Etat of being first today. Tis a wonderful start indeed 😊

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Jeff S's avatar

Cooler, clouds, and rain in forecast for here. Perfect day for sitting inside and reading and rereading this column.

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Jake's avatar

Shooting my age would be nice. Seems that the older I get the bigger the spread between my age and my scores. What's up with that??

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Full Name's avatar

40 years ago, playing my very first round of golf, I managed to shoot 150% of my age today. How old am I?

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Robin Esau's avatar

Good morning😎

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shayne's avatar

Good morning to you Mini

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Bill Rice, Jr.'s avatar

If I had 2 percent of the comment traffic as Jeff, I'd dance a little Substack Two Step.

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

You and me both! Although I seem to get a lot of private emails on things.

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Dr Linda's avatar

If Patel is sidestepping MSM that’s terrific. It’s smart. They are useless as news outlets. Bravo, out think them

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

And to think, I used to watch Bravo when I had cable.

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Jeff S's avatar

I used to watch Barney, until my daughter hid the remote from me.

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Full Name's avatar

Fife or dinosaur?

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Jeff S's avatar

Dino...

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Dr Linda's avatar

: )

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Annie's avatar

And no one is watching them.

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Bard Joseph's avatar

Not with Epstein files.

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

Time…give it time…

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Jake's avatar

The Trumpster is the master of timing. Have patience.

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Politico Phil's avatar

The Stars are Aligning

CLANDESTINE

"After Trump ends the war between Russia and Ukraine, the Dems/MSM will not be able to spin it, Trump will have massive public approval and near-unlimited political ammunition.

Trump ending WW3 will prove that he is a great President, and will be a deathblow to the Dems/MSM. This will disprove their entire narrative/identity for the last 10 years. All day every day, they said “orange man bad”, and he ended up bringing peace around the globe and preventing/ending WW3…

Additionally, from a strategic standpoint, Trump’s approval will be at its peak right after he secures this historic peace deal. Trump will have the trust and approval of the American People, and thus they will be more willing to trust him in the not-so-distant-future when he has to do some unprecedented things, like arresting high-profile politicians/bureaucrats.

Ending the war between Russia/Ukraine gives Trump the political ammunition and public approval he needs to drop the hammer, and Trump already has federal control of DC, National Guard already deployed, with specialized active duty units on standby.

If you are able to think a few steps ahead, you can see the stars are aligning."

https://bioclandestine.substack.com/p/the-stars-are-aligning-023

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Steve G's avatar

Sorry to be a downer here but Trump could cure cancer, end world hunger and brew the perfect cup of coffee and would still be hated by the left.

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

And that is the left's problem, no concern of ours if they are unhappy infidels.

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Dr Linda's avatar

I also believe more folks will leave the left’s way of thinking. There will probably be a decrease in population as well since the covid poison shots were so popular.

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Astragale's avatar

Partner has a d-in-law.

Her brother just died “unexpectedly” in his sleep.

Cardiac arrest.

He was 22-years-old.

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Teresa Thibodeaux's avatar

So sad. Horrible way to get the woke individuals to wake up to the lies.

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Astragale's avatar

Yep. 😖

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MOMinator's avatar

So sad 😞 our son lost a best friend 3 yrs ago the same way (he was 24)

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Lori's avatar

Happening everywhere and all the time: Hayley McNeff, a champion bodybuilder and fitness influencer, died on Aug. 8 at age 37

According to her obituary, published in a local Boston outlet, McNeff’s death was “unexpected but peaceful”

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Astragale's avatar

Yes, the ‘unexpected’ & ‘sudden’ deaths are everywhere.

Excess mortality stats are high in all highly injected countries.

In our personal circle, we’ve had DOZENS of serious illnesses, deaths from cancer & 4 sudden deaths since 2021. Two died from cardiac arrest, one from pulmonary embolism, one from a stroke.

Never known anything like it.

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Coco Of 3's avatar

How tragic. I’m sorry.

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Jeff S's avatar

No. Sad.

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Dr Linda's avatar

I am so sorry.

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MaryAnn's avatar

So very sorry 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

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Robin Esau's avatar

Agreed. It is been a slow awakening for them, but it is happening.

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Dr Linda's avatar

Agree! So slow; like pouring molasses out on a cold day. Yes, I believe it is happening

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PamelaZelie's avatar

I pray it’s happening. I see no such thing in my liberal relatives.

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Mary H.'s avatar

There will always be some who will never get over their TDS .

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alongername's avatar

And don't forget the lack of sex appeal of human whales ......

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Politico Phil's avatar

The only genocide I know of that has "plausible deniability".

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Dr Linda's avatar

Touche

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AJF's avatar

Steve, as someone surrounded by these people I find the issue is lack of information. They only know what NPR or the NY Times tells them. For instance, they know nothing of the differences between Eastern and Western Ukraine. Nothing of the broken Minsk Agreements, nothing of the West's involvement in orchestrating the color revolution, never listen to what Putin has to say, nothing about the Banderites or the Azov battalion....MANY such issues as this, geopolitical as well as the corrupt "healthcare" industry. They consider themselves intelligent and well-informed.🙄

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Steve G's avatar

And therein lies the problem.

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

Yes, one "well informed" leftist tried to show how accommodating he was. Until I asked about how Sydney Powell was treated. Who? he asked. Just reiterating your point!

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Kathy's avatar

Yes!💯

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Politico Phil's avatar

True that!

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Rob's avatar

I have to agree.

It is Trump vs the cabal that's been running things since 1963, they have too much to lose.

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Lori's avatar

fuck the left. nuff said.

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Jpeach's avatar

If Trump can effectively end the Russia/Ukraine War, the Globalists and their Media will scream “not enough bloody murder, Democracy must be defended until the last Ukrainian dies”.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Clandestine really went weird on many of us on X.

Blocked so many of us. I only interacted with him when I would "like" or repost something he wrote.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Was thinking about how many men in the past did a huge cleanup job in a rotted city, were hailed and then rot set in again not so long later. No history taight or squewe? New crooked leaders appealing to human greed at every level, certainly. I now understand how the millennial will go bad again in the end, human depravity can't be cured except it be dead and miraculously resurrected new.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

SF was cleaned up for a Chinese leader, hopefully DC will be cleaned up for us, and remain that way.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Good gracious Politico, I’ve just had about enough positivity for today after reading Jeff Childers and your comment. I’m not sure I can take anymore 😂🤣😆

Thank you! Seriously.

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LuAnne's avatar

I wonder how many of the 97% DC democrat voters will experience an epiphany and vote differently going forward? I mean, if DC residents, like the man in the video, realize how simple it was to clean up crime and homelessness all along, a light bulb might turn on. This DC cleanup project might turn out to be the most effective political campaign ever.

It may also spill over to residents in other big blue cities who keep being told they're racist bigots for wanting safe, clean streets & neighborhoods.

This possibility is probably why democrat politicians are screaming so loudly.

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

Hopefully an incandescent light bulb!💡

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Free in Florida's avatar

I have a bazillion 100w bulbs I will give away for free. I got so mad that they were going to be outlawed that I stockpiled them. Ya’ll come. LOL

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Susie & Security's avatar

LOL. I had so many light bulbs in stock that when I moved I relabeled the giant "bulb" box to "garage" so the moving guys wouldn't think I'm a hoarder.

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AJF's avatar

Susie, some things are worth hoarding!🤗

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Free in Florida's avatar

Susie - literally shrieking!!! I feel your pain on the lightbulbs!!!

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Lori's avatar

I did too. Stupid ass biden.

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

I have a stockpile too of 40s, 60s, and 75s. It’s difficult to find odd sizes though.

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Juju's avatar

And would be next to impossible to do without a majority in Congress. They’d block things left and right.

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Johnny-O's avatar

I'm kind of amazed at how many people form a solid opinion after viewing a video or two or three of someone they don't know on the internet.

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LuAnne's avatar

"Solid opinion." Lol. Like you, I'm kind of amazed you've made a solid opinion of me. Kinda funny how that works.

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Johnny-O's avatar

Try improving your reading comprehension. What "opinion" did I project onto you exactly? Try again.

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Free in Florida's avatar

Au contraire, Johnny-O. LuAnne’s right. That’s the assumption to be made from your pretty snarky comment. I think the idea is that it’s hopeful to see someone who, through evidence (lower crime and cleaner streets), might actually change voting habits.

We’re all hopeful that things will get better and are thankful Trump was elected. Without that, we would have been over the cliff.

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Lori's avatar

Don't waste your time with JO. He has been a bleeding internal hemorrhoid here for months now. If we are lucky, a storm will sweep him and his negativity away to never never land.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

O-Johnny; these Trump victories are really biting your butt, are they?

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Kathy's avatar

Perhaps Johnny is just an independent thinker, and never wants to put 100% trust in any one political party or individual. The neocons used to run the Republican Party, and now it seems they have switched primarily to the Democrats. I hate the current version of the Democrats today, but I haven’t forgotten how much I disliked the Republicans pulling us into the Iraq war under false pretenses, or the Patriot Act. Mainly what I fear is the globalists and their agenda of eugenics, CBDC, biometric surveillance, etc. Please don’t assume that we can trust every single “R” just because they are less crazy than the other side! I appreciate that some people are willing to share a different opinion on this platform. That being said, I am very pleased with most of what has happened since since January 2025!

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Nah, O Johnny is definitely a TDS sufferer.

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Porge's avatar

Perhaps Johnny is just a voucher bag with TDS

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Porge's avatar

Douche bag,lol

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shayne's avatar

I thought the same.

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Jeff S's avatar

Don't bet on it. Most of them are hopeless mental cases.

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DaveL's avatar

You're probably right. What I'm not seeing is what happened to the homeless people who lost their tents, etc.?

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LuAnne's avatar

This has been brought up by several but here's a brief description of how the homeless are being addressed.

Press Secretary on efforts to clean up DC: "Homeless individuals will be given the option to leave their encampment to be taken to a shelter, to be offered addiction or mental health services, and if they refuse they will be susceptible to fines or jail time."

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DaveL's avatar

Thanks, I was wondering what happened to those people. I wonder what the statute is for getting fines or jail time if they refuse shelter or help.

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LuAnne's avatar

I don't know, but to me, their initial plan sounds humane. There's probably many reasons people become homeless so a once-size-fits-all approach won't work. Nor will enabling them like we see in places like CA.

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Margot Wooster's avatar

With enough deserters, it could be the end of the democrat party!

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Valerie's avatar

I’m in FL this weekend and I had to wait for C&C this morning. I don’t know how y’all on the East coast stand it. 😂

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My Favorite Things's avatar

Valerie,

I can barely wait here in Florida. It’s always best to read C&C when it first comes out ❤️

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Valerie's avatar

I’m in FL to move my kid into an apartment (because if I didn’t he’d get sheets and a shower curtain and call it a day, lol). And yes, C&C is best when it’s super fresh.

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Juju's avatar

I relate in full this very minute! I’m headed back to Austin next weekend, and for the entire month of September, to help our son move to a new apartment and get settled in with furniture etc. His first place last month hasn’t panned out, as well as the car he bought. I’m trying to find ways to relieve some of the stress of all this robbing him of being able to put 100% of his attention and focus into his new job. I can easily hunt down used furniture for sale while he is at work, and start the process of car shopping again.

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Valerie's avatar

Good luck! We’re in NW Houston so if you need me to look for anything out this way I’ll be happy to help.

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Juju's avatar

❤️❤️❤️ thank you!!! Yes there were a couple car listings from Houston. Most were around San Antonio. I’ll keep you on my radar and dm if it makes sense to bother you 😊😉

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Valerie's avatar

It’s no bother! Lmk.

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WA Lunch Lady's avatar

So excited for him new job, new town new life! It’s great that he has you to help him settle in.

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Jeff S's avatar

Leave him alone. He'll figure it out, eventually.

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Juju's avatar

Yeah for many things I am. I’m not removing all the challenges and stress. I get what you’re saying, but it’s wisdom for a time when people were able to stay close to family and friends as they got their life rolling. When you have to move across country and don’t have a single friend or family member within 1,000 miles reach of you, it gets very expensive VERY fast to have to pay for all the help you need.

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Jeff S's avatar

Understandable, of course. Good luck with everything!

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My Favorite Things's avatar

Juju,

He’s lucky to have a mom who loves him. We need more of that in this harsh world. Make good memories while you can!

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Rob's avatar

Let your kids learn how to do this stuff for themselves!

This is their life, there choices. Loan them some money to get started if that's what's needed but then let them learn!

Moving in to help I can see if he's out there with a shovel & hammer actually building his home and you're going to help. Otherwise you had your chance to build (& learn to build) your life years ago, allow your kids that opportunity too.

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Jake's avatar

I found the right girl and married just before graduating from college. She was the smart one who kept me on the straight and narrow. We made a good team together as we started out. She developed Alzheimer's and now It's my turn to take care of her as good as she took care of me.

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Jeff S's avatar

Live and learn? My wife says our son is spoiled. I told her all kids smell that way.

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My Favorite Things's avatar

😂🤣😂We love our boys! There’s something special about them.

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Susan Seas's avatar

They are special! The first summer my son came home from college after three days, he asked me if he could borrow a pair of his Dad’s socks. I said oh do you need to do laundry? He said no I forgot to pack socks. I said so you’ve been wearing the same socks for three days??? 😳🤢😅

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Valerie's avatar

HAHAHAHA

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AM Schimberg's avatar

Makes me chuckle because our college son forgot all his socks when he came home for the summer as well. 😄

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Valerie's avatar

They are AWESOME. And much lower maintenance than my daughter, but sometimes a little too much. He gave himself a $140 MONTHLY budget for food this semester because he’s ’challenging himself’. He’s a distance runner for his school.. I can’t imagine how that’s going to work. 🤷🏼‍♀️

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My Favorite Things's avatar

I’m ready to adopt him 🥰 Too cute.

That’s just a part of growing up. Kids don’t fully comprehend how expensive it is to eat. My son almost drove me to bankruptcy with his appetite when he was a teenager. He would fix several HUGE sandwiches 🥪 eat them and not get fat. My jealousy and awe was almost palpable.

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Valerie's avatar

Right? Me too!

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Help Needed in KS's avatar

$140 a month for food? $140 / 30 days = $4.67 a day. What is he eating...AIR? 😃

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Valerie's avatar

LOTS of pasta, ground beef, frozen veg. He has 4 roommates and they each cook one night mon-Friday, he packs his lunch, eats a lot of sandwiches and tuna. He’s just frugal. We have never once in our lives had food delivered to the house (and we live in the suburbs so it’s not that it’s difficult). He comes by it honestly.

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Jeff S's avatar

Ramen!

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Oma's avatar

😂😂

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Robin Esau's avatar

Boy mom here too. Can verify!

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Jeff S's avatar

Guys don't need much.

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Robin Esau's avatar

Yes! "Super fresh" even matters with C&C😁

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Tim Drainville's avatar

C&C is the only good thing about living in California - we get it early.

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Jeff S's avatar

Ditto EA WA.

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J Kaz's avatar

Praying for ca. such a beautiful state being destroyed day by day

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Lorita's avatar

me too

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JW's avatar
Aug 15Edited

Watched Newsome yesterday and it was good for a laugh. He is beyond disgusting. Whoever is his acting coach needs a sub to the face.

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Valerie's avatar

Way to look at the bright side!

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Karen Bandy's avatar

And Bend. Gorgeous place, has been loved to death. And don’t get me started on the homeless

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LHuff8's avatar

Have you read Mike Netter on the CALKIDS money grab? Everytime you think CA couldn't be worse 😡

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Bgagnon's avatar

Sadly about “the only good thing about living in Cali” is true except for my son and his family!

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Jamie's avatar

Another thing to find gratitude for😊

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Ruth H's avatar

I like to wait so I can enjoy so many marvelous comments. C&C is my top favorite Substack, second up is Don Surber (same wit and humor).

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My Favorite Things's avatar

Thank you for mentioning Don Surber. I just subscribed!

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Paige Green's avatar

I got my first chance to read it at 9:30 last night, then promptly fell asleep!

Playing catch up now 😂

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Valerie's avatar

Status update: we’re 2 stores in and I’m down $500. He’s getting very basic things but my gosh, there’s a lot of stuff. 😂

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Full Name's avatar

No thrift stores there or is that $500 the going thrift store rate these days to set up housekeeping? Guys don't need new, barely serviceable is fine...

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Valerie's avatar

It’s like bath mats and cheap bedding and a desk, floor lamp, that kind of thing. It’s ‘furnished’ but still lacking quite a few things.

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My Favorite Things's avatar

Valerie,

It adds up so fast 💵 These are good times for you and your son. Have you thought about writing down some of these stories/adventures. Maybe add pictures in a scrapbook or album? I’m pretty sure one day you both will enjoy looking back on these days.

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

Am I the only nerd in here who refreshes often so I can see the newer comments? I come for Jeff’s brilliant commentary, but I stay for your brilliant comments!

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Jamison's avatar

I try to read some comments, but I simply don’t have time to read them all. There’s so many, but you’re right. One learns a lot from the comments.

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Juju's avatar

I do it all the time. I first read down to the bottom and then instantly know there’s a LOT more than that, refresh and read again. 😆 I do this a few times. After the third time I sort the comments by newest first so as to give love and attention to the later readers. While the pooptards and TDSers are always at the bottom with 0-1 likes, there are a lot of other great comments from the army.

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ZuZu’s Petals's avatar

“Pooptards” -that’s a new one to me. I’ll have to use my imagination …

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

The DC police chief was the head of DEI before that, and she didn't even know what "chain of command" meant. No wonder nothing ever got done regarding crime and safe streets.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Notice the problem with female police chiefs?

Like New Orleans and DC.

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Susan Seas's avatar

It all comes down to experience. I am sure MB did not honestly climb through the ranks. For MB and Portlanders - ranks are levels of training and experience 🤣

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Jeff S's avatar

Women are okay. Sometimes.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Both the mayor and police chief in DC are really bad.

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Jeff S's avatar

Yup. D.C.

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Johnny-O's avatar

We have a great woman police chief, and I live in a very red small city.

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

The " ... very red small city." might explain why your police chief seems great.

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Johnny-O's avatar

How many people here are sexist? Quite a few it seems. Are you a Nick Fuentes fan by chance?

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

I can't answer your question because you didn't provide your definition of sexist. Nick who?

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Lori's avatar

Ignore JO. He is nothing but negative, foul and a bloviating fool.

He should go and get another covid jab....

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Heather's avatar

She might be, but because of DEI, hard to say she got the job on merit alone….odds are, she couldn’t do the regular police job at the same level as her male counterparts and so should never have been in line for a promotion (and probably not have kept the earlier job either)….she might be the exception and you might be right (I am a woman and certainly dont hate other women….I just understand the physical limitations of being a woman compared to virtually any man I’ve ever known, including my sons starting around age 12-13)

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Johnny-O's avatar

That said, isn't a good police chief more dependent upon brains than bronze? Also, there is no way DEI had anything to do with it in our town. That shit don't fly here.

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Carolyn's avatar

AMEN!!!! to that..the mayor, the superintendent of police and the Orleans Parish sheriff...all are DEI. And locals wonder how New Orleans got this bad..

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Karen Bandy's avatar

LA

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Carol M.'s avatar

I could not believe she said that out loud: “what’s a chain of command?” 🤯

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

That was a wild moment for sure.

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CHop's avatar

It's like we are watching a comedy.

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Jpeach's avatar

It’s planned incompetence. Part of the Marxist playbook.

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Lori's avatar

I read your comment quickly and thought it said planned incontinence! Well, could be that too, lol!

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Jpeach's avatar

Marxists like chaos so, incompetence and incontinence, both work for them.

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Renee Sommers's avatar

I wonder if an “underling” was charged with disposing of the hard drives and burn bags at the State Department/DOJ, and like the “bad” employee at PG&E in Erin Brockovich, kept them hidden instead of burning everything. It’s like we’re living in a Tom Clancy novel. 😎

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Juju's avatar
Aug 15Edited

Entirely possible given that movie was based on a true story! And Brockovich herself said it was 98% accurate.

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Jake's avatar

I wonder who's going to play "Trump" when the book and movie comes out in ten years?

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Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

If Disney casts it, it will be a black woman. 🙄

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Free in Florida's avatar

Renee - or what about this scenario? Comey and higher ups at the FIB didn’t dispose of the burn bags in order to claim the ultimate decision maker wasn’t they - it was obama? Just a thought. (I tend to go with your theory - more plausible - but I have wondered about the other.)

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Renee Sommers's avatar

I wouldn’t think they would be so stupid. But, they really think they’re above the law.

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Occam's avatar

Measurably improving the quality of life for Americans is the best (and possibly only) way to win the hearts and mind of the TDS-afflicted.

It's hard to complain about a government that is clearly improving safety, reducing taxes and making things better.

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Bard Joseph's avatar

Have the military sworn to the constitution?

"I find in existence a new and dangerous concept that the men of our armed forces owe primary allegiance and loyalty to those who temporarily exercise the authority of the executive branch of Government, rather than to the Country and its Constitution, which they are sworn to defend."

General MacArthur

Massachusetts Legislature, 1951

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Free in Florida's avatar

You’re assuming some very negative things here and MacArthur’s viewpoints are just that - his opinion at the time.

As the wife of a Naval Academy grad and former Navy pilot - with many of our closest friends military - you don’t know the mindset. The country and our Constitution are always front and center and I don’t know anyone who doesn’t think that.

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Bard Joseph's avatar

ICE and DEA not military.

Opium control was the reason for invading Afghanistan.

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Carolyn's avatar

But rumor has it that we wound up guarding those poppy fields..CIA..."poppy" Bush..

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Richard Whitney's avatar

The best way to control them is to use the military to guard them.

Mrs. RW

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Juju's avatar

Yes they have primary allegiance to the constitution, and it’s a beautiful day when once again the executive branch does as well and gives them the privilege of honoring both. What a great time to be in our military.

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Bard Joseph's avatar

When do they take the oath?

DEA is not military. Do they take the oath? Does ICE take the oath?

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

And your point is…

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John Anthony's avatar

I think he may be the last person standing that still believes MacArthur was a brilliant general and American hero.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

He WAS a brilliant general, but had an ego that puts Trump's to shame.

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John Anthony's avatar

Okay. I really am hesitant to engage, because I’m sure you have rock solid evidence of his brilliance, such as his astonishingly astute preparation for Japan’s attack on Manila and subsequent Bataan Death March for the American troops left behind (and how the Navy and Marines battled their way back so he could get his feet wet in order to validate his “I will return.” He also did a stand up job in Korea leading to the massacre of American troops at the Chosin Reservoir battle. His arrogance is well documented in his disrespect with President Truman at Wake Island. And like all good generals, he jumped in politics after being sacked by Truman. But okay. He was brilliant.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

I think this article is reasonable... far more measures than your imbecilic and petty attacks on a great man:

https://billofrightsinstitute.org/activities/douglas-macarthur-and-hubris-narrative

America was unprepared for both WWII and the Korean War... many of the FUBARS were due to that lack... and yes, MacArthur I'm sure made several mistakes... so by all means, keep throwing mud at a rare 5-star general nominated for a Medal of Honor multiple times... and who was highly respected in his administration of Japan after the victory.

I am sure that you are a bold hero, easily his equal, at least playing Donkey Kong or Call of Duty or Barbie vs Ken. Get on top of that bed-wetting and you will have it made, Spartacus.

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Jake's avatar

Part of the oath is the swearing to obey the orders of those placed above me. The only caveat is they must be LEGAL orders aka My Lai in Vietnam.

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Bard Joseph's avatar

That was a foreign war.

Military moving domestically as well as other agencies.

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JasonT's avatar

MacArthur had delusions of grandeur. He was the Constitution.

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Bard Joseph's avatar

He was attacked by the Communists. What in this statement is your issue?

FDR filled the government with Commies.

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JasonT's avatar

True, that. But it doesn't make Mac a saint. He was deeply flawed.

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Bard Joseph's avatar

How was he flawed? Commies control the media.

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JasonT's avatar

The Coldest Winter was not written by a commie. He has his defenders as well. And, to be fair, he performed well in WW II, not so much after.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

IF the DC Cops have sworn to the Constitution... they sure are breaking that Oath... and often. Lawlessness is rampant, as is their jogger judicial...

So is is not better to remove them from the totally corrupt oversight of scum like Bow-Wow Bowser and her POS DEI afro-turd Police Chief Smith?

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Bard Joseph's avatar

Dude, you always have good ideas, but we are moving into a police state. The Big Cities have created the situation to push us into the police state beginning with immigration.

All planned by the Network of Dems/Republicans. Next step is being controlled by AI like Gaza into "Freedom Cities".

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Bard, you may well be right, though Trump, although deeply flawed, is fighting the mass immigration/importation/trespass of slimy sub-humans... along with many other, but related, efforts to destroy our Republic...

As you know, I am a big fan of Hitler, a great leader slimed by a ton of mostly jewish lies and mis-info... IMO, sometimes a reasonably benevolent authoritarian leader/ruler is necessary when a country is near the brink of collapse, due to nefarious actions, both internal and external.

I am not saying that Trump is such... but the concept remains... it is almost impossible to "clean the stables" when corruption has long reigned...

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Bard Joseph's avatar

Hitler reached out for peace but the bankers would not have. Same with Trump. His family making half a billion on his personal bit coin is concerning. Then he waives his first year salary. Ultimately presidents have no power, only the bankers (drug trusts). Stables were last clean before the Federal Reserve. I would love Tariffs if the Feds income tax was abolished.

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