I'm not so sure I agree with that. The Bible does not tell us we must extend the same courtesies to those acting in bad faith that we do to those in good faith. Forgiveness follows repentance (a good faith act of sorrow) it's not automatic. Standing up to evil (a judgmental act that the Bible commands) is by it's very definition hostile …
I'm not so sure I agree with that. The Bible does not tell us we must extend the same courtesies to those acting in bad faith that we do to those in good faith. Forgiveness follows repentance (a good faith act of sorrow) it's not automatic. Standing up to evil (a judgmental act that the Bible commands) is by it's very definition hostile and confrontational.
It's a complicated question that I don't fully comprehend. But going along with people acting in bad faith to make them feel better is why we now have some churches waving trans flags. Recall also that absurd Superbowl commercial which had Christ washing the feet of proud, unrepentant sinners. That's not the Jesus of the Bible.
Clearly there's a point where Christians are compelled to say enough. I'd say that refusing to apologize to people acting in deliberate, outright, bad faith falls in line with that.
Just finished Proverbs an hour or so ago. So many of these wise sayings point to just that: how to deal with the wicked/evil. And how to deal with the poor/just. Differently.
So what are we going to do Tom, hang him in the public square? This isn't a rhetorical question.
He promoted the shot when he believed in it, and he took the shot himself if you remember. So why it may have been foolish, it wasn't disingenuous or hypocritical. And when the did the President of the US become people's personal physician? I have tremendous admiration for President Trump but didn't take the shot because I think for myself.
My former pastor (now retired) who is by just about every standard a great, sincere man also urged the congregation to take the shot. He did this because he had buried almost two dozen people from Covid deaths (it's a big church) and believed Public Health officials were acting in good faith. Of course he was wrong and I didn't follow his recommendation again because I think for myself.
I don't know what to tell you except that people are responsible for their own actions. And if anyone allows an experimental injection to be pumped into them because their president, pastor, or some other person told them too then they are fools. We all make mistakes and hopefully people learn from them but blaming Trump for people taking the shot is beyond absurd. Trump took the shot and recommended others also do it. They then made the choice, not Trump.
Yet people insist he do the sackcloth and ashes routine on this as if every single vax recipient didn't say "yes" and acquiesce. These purity tests are going to destroy our last hope to stop the Bolsheviks from taking over the country. I hope it's just foolish thinking but I really am starting to wonder exactly what is going through people's heads.
Excellent response. I too think for myself and did not get the jab, even though I voted for Trump and will again. Trump tried to offer suggestions and was mocked unmercifully. FDA even had to finally be forced to remove their You’re Not a Horse or a Cow posts. The agencies with ties to Big Pharma fought Trump at every suggestion
There's a big difference between hanging someone in a public square and expecting accountability from someone who had it under their purview to require that an "Emergency Authorization" not be implemented under false pretenses. I seem to remember him also promoting hydroxychloroquine, which would preclude the use of an EUA.
If he was unable to say "the buck stops here" then, he will be unable to say it in the future.
"He took the shot when he believed in it." I can't attest to what anyone put in their arm, especially if they did it to further a narrative.
I'm not so sure I agree with that. The Bible does not tell us we must extend the same courtesies to those acting in bad faith that we do to those in good faith. Forgiveness follows repentance (a good faith act of sorrow) it's not automatic. Standing up to evil (a judgmental act that the Bible commands) is by it's very definition hostile and confrontational.
It's a complicated question that I don't fully comprehend. But going along with people acting in bad faith to make them feel better is why we now have some churches waving trans flags. Recall also that absurd Superbowl commercial which had Christ washing the feet of proud, unrepentant sinners. That's not the Jesus of the Bible.
Clearly there's a point where Christians are compelled to say enough. I'd say that refusing to apologize to people acting in deliberate, outright, bad faith falls in line with that.
Just finished Proverbs an hour or so ago. So many of these wise sayings point to just that: how to deal with the wicked/evil. And how to deal with the poor/just. Differently.
Many people took the shot because they trusted him.
Those people were not acting in bad faith.
Many of those people are now dead.
So what are we going to do Tom, hang him in the public square? This isn't a rhetorical question.
He promoted the shot when he believed in it, and he took the shot himself if you remember. So why it may have been foolish, it wasn't disingenuous or hypocritical. And when the did the President of the US become people's personal physician? I have tremendous admiration for President Trump but didn't take the shot because I think for myself.
My former pastor (now retired) who is by just about every standard a great, sincere man also urged the congregation to take the shot. He did this because he had buried almost two dozen people from Covid deaths (it's a big church) and believed Public Health officials were acting in good faith. Of course he was wrong and I didn't follow his recommendation again because I think for myself.
I don't know what to tell you except that people are responsible for their own actions. And if anyone allows an experimental injection to be pumped into them because their president, pastor, or some other person told them too then they are fools. We all make mistakes and hopefully people learn from them but blaming Trump for people taking the shot is beyond absurd. Trump took the shot and recommended others also do it. They then made the choice, not Trump.
Yet people insist he do the sackcloth and ashes routine on this as if every single vax recipient didn't say "yes" and acquiesce. These purity tests are going to destroy our last hope to stop the Bolsheviks from taking over the country. I hope it's just foolish thinking but I really am starting to wonder exactly what is going through people's heads.
Excellent response. I too think for myself and did not get the jab, even though I voted for Trump and will again. Trump tried to offer suggestions and was mocked unmercifully. FDA even had to finally be forced to remove their You’re Not a Horse or a Cow posts. The agencies with ties to Big Pharma fought Trump at every suggestion
Personally I think many churches advocated the jab and closures so as not to lose their tax exempt status. I hope I'm wrong, but that's what I think
no it was simply because they coward in the face of social tyranny.
they forgot 2 Timothy 1:7
shame on them
You’re on a roll today, Jeff C!
So much common and Godly sense.
There's a big difference between hanging someone in a public square and expecting accountability from someone who had it under their purview to require that an "Emergency Authorization" not be implemented under false pretenses. I seem to remember him also promoting hydroxychloroquine, which would preclude the use of an EUA.
If he was unable to say "the buck stops here" then, he will be unable to say it in the future.
"He took the shot when he believed in it." I can't attest to what anyone put in their arm, especially if they did it to further a narrative.
It's up to you, where you put your faith.
If Trump truly did take the shot, it speaks to his intelligence…
so now they're voting Democrat....:)
Well, if I remember correctly he also said he never asked God for forgiveness, So well, quite spiritually flawed.