Warp speed was the best thing for us. Ever think that may not mean the shots? He always said you have a choice. We may never know what has been going on but we also may not know what we were saved from happening. The world is a messed up place but there are signs of improvement.
Warp speed was the best thing for us. Ever think that may not mean the shots? He always said you have a choice. We may never know what has been going on but we also may not know what we were saved from happening. The world is a messed up place but there are signs of improvement.
It was clearly NOT "the best thing for us". And he's made very clear that he means the shots, many times. He said AFTER he was out of office that he "wouldn't have" forced the shots, but he allowed lockdowns & the biggest transfer of wealth from the poor & middle class to billionaires ever, putting people out of jobs, schools, businesses and doctor's offices. The suppression of known early treatments for that fraudulently obtained EUA, murdering millions worldwide in just the first year, before we really saw excess deaths on the rise in 2021 and to this day. That's not a success in my mind, unless you're with the WEF and want to reduce population through iatrogenocide. And really, the idea that he didn't force the shots is lame, since he didn't have the opportunity - the shots had only just started to roll out at the end of his term, and even Biden didn't mandate anything for 6 months after he took office. Given the profligate liar that Trump is, I don't believe a word he says.
I do understand where you are coming from. You just said they just started rolling out at the end of his term, it was all under Biden. Trump didn’t fire my husband or force my loved ones to get it. Some died and some have cancer and other issues. I am Not convinced they didn’t trade them out. For example at the beginning, they were trying to build new vehicles to haul them to keep them at a very low temperature. Whatever happened with that? Because that never came to be.
I find it alarming you jump to I must be wef. Seriously WTH 😳
Re-read what I wrote. I did not say that. I assume you aren't, which is why something that's causing so much death and destruction should be objectionable to you. Trump didn't do those things because he never had the chance. He did everything the frauds Fauci & Birx directed him to do, as did Biden, so we can only assume what "might have" happened, had he had the chance. We'll never know and he'll never admit he was wrong - that much we DO know. Which means he's learned nothing and would do it again.
You have TDS. You totally and completely hate the man and are incapable of treating him fairly. We get it.
You must take great comfort in the legal hell he’s being put through and pray intensely that he’ll be destroyed one way or another. I don’t think you’re a sweet mama. I think you’re a sick mama.
Interesting, that the only comments you make here are just pure hatred against Trump.
Again, "Willing Spirit" but not much thinking. Someone with TDS would not have voted for him twice, as I did. Lesser of two evils and all that...but then I did a little digging and realized what we are up against with him, especially after he's been INSISTING for 3 years that he "did everything perfectly" and "saved 100 million lives" with Warp Speed, a very well proven lie. You just keep name calling without addressing or refuting a single fact. Ad hominem attacks are evidence that you have no logical response.
I get your points but don’t agree with the “he allowed lockdowns.” He really didn’t have the power to allow or enforce or disallow. What could he have done to prevent the blue state or RINO red state lockdowns? I just don’t see how he could have done anything about them either way. If you have information showing a mechanism for him to prevent or force state lockdowns, please share it with me, because I am not aware of any.
When RD opened FL after 28 days, Trump threatened to pull federal funding from FL. Trump pushed the lockdowns for quite some time, and even insisted in a press conference that he had the power to do that. And he may not have had it directly, but as we saw with Biden when he spitefully pulled resources from FL for their monoclonal antibody centers, presidents hold the purse strings on resources they've received from the taxpayers in those states. Because RD was so smart about managing the state of FL, he was able to work around these fools because the state is not broke.
Yes I remember that and he went too far. But not as far as he could’ve and not as far as Biden. He also railed against Kemp in Georgia who opened earlier. But he didn’t do anything against South Dakota and I don’t recall sanctions against Georgia. Definitely not good decisions on his part to threaten Florida. I wonder why he changed so much from the insistence on opening before Easter to that more extreme reaction.
Good question. And he didn't have an opportunity to go as far as Biden. We can all speculate on what he would or wouldn't have done as far as mandates, but the fact is that the rollout of the toxic jabs was only just getting started at the end of his term, and even Biden didn't push it that far for the first 6 months of his occupancy.
I meant he didn’t go as far on the lockdowns. He had months to coerce or threaten states to stay locked down and he didn’t. Of course we can’t know what he would’ve done about the jabs but I daresay given his past history he wouldn’t have mandated them.
Ah, but he DID threaten and coerce governors who opened their states early. He was threatening DeSantis with pulling federal funding from his state, which is taxpayer money that is due to them. Same for I believe it was Georgia. And given his history of bestowing the swamp creatures with powerful positions (i.e. Bill Barr, etc), and his appointments of Pfizer lobbyists to head public health (look up Alex Azar if you want to vomit) after they kissed the ring and paid their money, I would not put it past him. He's betrayed us enough times on many issues, that I don't think that's a fair bet. For example, the Bumpstock ban and his vocal support of red flag laws (he was going to sign a national red flag law, but was told that it would hurt his re-election chances. What else, you may ask - well how about who he did and did NOT pardon - major drug dealers got a pass, but Julian Assange (who the CIA intended to assassinate) did not. He awarded presidential commendations to Fauci, Birx Azar et al on his last day in office, after ignoring more knowledgeable and far less corrupt scientists and docs. He refused to release ALL of the JFK files when he had the authority to do so. I could list a few more things, but you get the idea. There's a vast chasm between what Trump says and what he has done.
Yes there are certainly things he did or didn’t do that I strongly disagree with. And people in his administration I cringe at. Some of his decisions and actions anger and perplex me, but some I think people unfairly blame him for. A president isn’t supposed to have sole power to do things. I don’t want a president who acts like Biden and uses agencies to bludgeon compliance with his directives. Congress is supposed to be part of the process and so things like dismantling Obamacare which I really wanted to see but was stonewalled by many RINOs, wasn’t really Trump’s fault. I would really like to see less federal power overall in all branches and especially agencies as l think that would nip many of these problems in the bud.
Also you said he threatened states but did he actually carry out those threats? Words are one thing. Actions are another. You also said as much: “There's a vast chasm between what Trump says and what he has done.” I’m not giving him a pass on what I see as dumb decisions but on the other hand, I don’t know of many political figure who would’ve done better 😕 He is clearly far from perfect but unfortunately I don’t see any better options out there. Kennedy may be good on the shots but I don’t really feel like he’d be good on much else. Who would you like to see as President or even nominee? I like DeSantis and Vivek Ramaswamy but they’re out of the game. Vivek has no political track record and so we don’t really know how he’d govern, DeSantis is said to be too influenced and supported by RINO elements. Not sure I concur with that but my point is, I don’t see any candidate that doesn’t have some sort of major flaw 😕 I hear your concerns about Trump and share some of them but I don’t know what else we’ve got at this point 😕
There's zero evidence of that stupid allegation about DeSantis. He's done nothing to please RINO's and has a great track record. I just wish more Americans were smart enough to have seen an opportunity with him that we haven't seen in decades. A candidate who is decent, honest, keeps his promises to the best of his ability, is effective, smart and dignified. I guess we are not done with circus clowns yet. Trump is a compulsive liar and malignant narcissist and has made a lot of unforced "errors" if that's what you could call appointing the swamp to allegedly drain the swamp. Big pharma and the medical industrial complex went from doing a lot of harm to doing massive generational worldwide harm, and they must be stopped. Children being sacrificed is a sure sign of the end of civilization as we know it. If we don't address that, we've got no future, period.
I am skeptical of it but he supposedly got lots of verbal financial support from them. It wouldn’t stop me voting for him because I also don’t believe that it would necessarily change how he would make decisions as president. But I know quite a few people have that perception, of his being controlled opposition or beholden to RINOs. I like the way he is coherent and aggressive with the press when they ask him loaded leading questions. He does that way better than Trump, who does too much stream of consciousness that can be more easily manipulated to be misrepresented.
I agree about the big Pharma issues and have concerns about some of the Trump weaknesses you mentioned although I would not go quite as far.
I do think that it has been easier for DeSantis to keep his promises with a Republican supermajority legislature compared to Trump with a very slim majority in his first two years and of those, many backstabbing RINOs. You don’t have to like him to admit that reduces the odds of getting much done 😕
Warp speed was the best thing for us. Ever think that may not mean the shots? He always said you have a choice. We may never know what has been going on but we also may not know what we were saved from happening. The world is a messed up place but there are signs of improvement.
It was clearly NOT "the best thing for us". And he's made very clear that he means the shots, many times. He said AFTER he was out of office that he "wouldn't have" forced the shots, but he allowed lockdowns & the biggest transfer of wealth from the poor & middle class to billionaires ever, putting people out of jobs, schools, businesses and doctor's offices. The suppression of known early treatments for that fraudulently obtained EUA, murdering millions worldwide in just the first year, before we really saw excess deaths on the rise in 2021 and to this day. That's not a success in my mind, unless you're with the WEF and want to reduce population through iatrogenocide. And really, the idea that he didn't force the shots is lame, since he didn't have the opportunity - the shots had only just started to roll out at the end of his term, and even Biden didn't mandate anything for 6 months after he took office. Given the profligate liar that Trump is, I don't believe a word he says.
I do understand where you are coming from. You just said they just started rolling out at the end of his term, it was all under Biden. Trump didn’t fire my husband or force my loved ones to get it. Some died and some have cancer and other issues. I am Not convinced they didn’t trade them out. For example at the beginning, they were trying to build new vehicles to haul them to keep them at a very low temperature. Whatever happened with that? Because that never came to be.
I find it alarming you jump to I must be wef. Seriously WTH 😳
Re-read what I wrote. I did not say that. I assume you aren't, which is why something that's causing so much death and destruction should be objectionable to you. Trump didn't do those things because he never had the chance. He did everything the frauds Fauci & Birx directed him to do, as did Biden, so we can only assume what "might have" happened, had he had the chance. We'll never know and he'll never admit he was wrong - that much we DO know. Which means he's learned nothing and would do it again.
You have TDS. You totally and completely hate the man and are incapable of treating him fairly. We get it.
You must take great comfort in the legal hell he’s being put through and pray intensely that he’ll be destroyed one way or another. I don’t think you’re a sweet mama. I think you’re a sick mama.
Interesting, that the only comments you make here are just pure hatred against Trump.
Again, "Willing Spirit" but not much thinking. Someone with TDS would not have voted for him twice, as I did. Lesser of two evils and all that...but then I did a little digging and realized what we are up against with him, especially after he's been INSISTING for 3 years that he "did everything perfectly" and "saved 100 million lives" with Warp Speed, a very well proven lie. You just keep name calling without addressing or refuting a single fact. Ad hominem attacks are evidence that you have no logical response.
And you are lying about what you claim he is pushing.
I find her comments quite balanced, actually.
And I'll be voting for Trump a 3rd time because we need a bull in a sacred cow shop right now.
But we can't make the bull the golden calf either. Irreverence to our ruling class should be our only sacred cow.
If you bullshit too much you just end up being the rodeo clown. He needs to get the job done this time!
Part of that is knowing when to keep his mouth shut.
Will still on the same team Willing Spirit?
Sure we’re on the same team. But you owe DJT more respect. He did an awesome job considering what he was up against. He should be dead by now.
I respect him immensely. He's just what the country needed in 2016. He was robbed in 20'.
And he's needed more than ever right now.
But he is not above reproach.
Well, if you must reproach….
I get your points but don’t agree with the “he allowed lockdowns.” He really didn’t have the power to allow or enforce or disallow. What could he have done to prevent the blue state or RINO red state lockdowns? I just don’t see how he could have done anything about them either way. If you have information showing a mechanism for him to prevent or force state lockdowns, please share it with me, because I am not aware of any.
When RD opened FL after 28 days, Trump threatened to pull federal funding from FL. Trump pushed the lockdowns for quite some time, and even insisted in a press conference that he had the power to do that. And he may not have had it directly, but as we saw with Biden when he spitefully pulled resources from FL for their monoclonal antibody centers, presidents hold the purse strings on resources they've received from the taxpayers in those states. Because RD was so smart about managing the state of FL, he was able to work around these fools because the state is not broke.
Yes I remember that and he went too far. But not as far as he could’ve and not as far as Biden. He also railed against Kemp in Georgia who opened earlier. But he didn’t do anything against South Dakota and I don’t recall sanctions against Georgia. Definitely not good decisions on his part to threaten Florida. I wonder why he changed so much from the insistence on opening before Easter to that more extreme reaction.
Good question. And he didn't have an opportunity to go as far as Biden. We can all speculate on what he would or wouldn't have done as far as mandates, but the fact is that the rollout of the toxic jabs was only just getting started at the end of his term, and even Biden didn't push it that far for the first 6 months of his occupancy.
I meant he didn’t go as far on the lockdowns. He had months to coerce or threaten states to stay locked down and he didn’t. Of course we can’t know what he would’ve done about the jabs but I daresay given his past history he wouldn’t have mandated them.
Ah, but he DID threaten and coerce governors who opened their states early. He was threatening DeSantis with pulling federal funding from his state, which is taxpayer money that is due to them. Same for I believe it was Georgia. And given his history of bestowing the swamp creatures with powerful positions (i.e. Bill Barr, etc), and his appointments of Pfizer lobbyists to head public health (look up Alex Azar if you want to vomit) after they kissed the ring and paid their money, I would not put it past him. He's betrayed us enough times on many issues, that I don't think that's a fair bet. For example, the Bumpstock ban and his vocal support of red flag laws (he was going to sign a national red flag law, but was told that it would hurt his re-election chances. What else, you may ask - well how about who he did and did NOT pardon - major drug dealers got a pass, but Julian Assange (who the CIA intended to assassinate) did not. He awarded presidential commendations to Fauci, Birx Azar et al on his last day in office, after ignoring more knowledgeable and far less corrupt scientists and docs. He refused to release ALL of the JFK files when he had the authority to do so. I could list a few more things, but you get the idea. There's a vast chasm between what Trump says and what he has done.
Yes there are certainly things he did or didn’t do that I strongly disagree with. And people in his administration I cringe at. Some of his decisions and actions anger and perplex me, but some I think people unfairly blame him for. A president isn’t supposed to have sole power to do things. I don’t want a president who acts like Biden and uses agencies to bludgeon compliance with his directives. Congress is supposed to be part of the process and so things like dismantling Obamacare which I really wanted to see but was stonewalled by many RINOs, wasn’t really Trump’s fault. I would really like to see less federal power overall in all branches and especially agencies as l think that would nip many of these problems in the bud.
Also you said he threatened states but did he actually carry out those threats? Words are one thing. Actions are another. You also said as much: “There's a vast chasm between what Trump says and what he has done.” I’m not giving him a pass on what I see as dumb decisions but on the other hand, I don’t know of many political figure who would’ve done better 😕 He is clearly far from perfect but unfortunately I don’t see any better options out there. Kennedy may be good on the shots but I don’t really feel like he’d be good on much else. Who would you like to see as President or even nominee? I like DeSantis and Vivek Ramaswamy but they’re out of the game. Vivek has no political track record and so we don’t really know how he’d govern, DeSantis is said to be too influenced and supported by RINO elements. Not sure I concur with that but my point is, I don’t see any candidate that doesn’t have some sort of major flaw 😕 I hear your concerns about Trump and share some of them but I don’t know what else we’ve got at this point 😕
There's zero evidence of that stupid allegation about DeSantis. He's done nothing to please RINO's and has a great track record. I just wish more Americans were smart enough to have seen an opportunity with him that we haven't seen in decades. A candidate who is decent, honest, keeps his promises to the best of his ability, is effective, smart and dignified. I guess we are not done with circus clowns yet. Trump is a compulsive liar and malignant narcissist and has made a lot of unforced "errors" if that's what you could call appointing the swamp to allegedly drain the swamp. Big pharma and the medical industrial complex went from doing a lot of harm to doing massive generational worldwide harm, and they must be stopped. Children being sacrificed is a sure sign of the end of civilization as we know it. If we don't address that, we've got no future, period.
I am skeptical of it but he supposedly got lots of verbal financial support from them. It wouldn’t stop me voting for him because I also don’t believe that it would necessarily change how he would make decisions as president. But I know quite a few people have that perception, of his being controlled opposition or beholden to RINOs. I like the way he is coherent and aggressive with the press when they ask him loaded leading questions. He does that way better than Trump, who does too much stream of consciousness that can be more easily manipulated to be misrepresented.
I agree about the big Pharma issues and have concerns about some of the Trump weaknesses you mentioned although I would not go quite as far.
I do think that it has been easier for DeSantis to keep his promises with a Republican supermajority legislature compared to Trump with a very slim majority in his first two years and of those, many backstabbing RINOs. You don’t have to like him to admit that reduces the odds of getting much done 😕