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Ryan Gardner's avatar

i doubt you owned a business during that time. try working to build a business for 25 years and then having a good portion of your hard earned wealth swept up in a GIANT SUCKING SOUND OF WEALTH TRANSFER.

and how in the world did he not know how it would all end....i mean the mask alone.

it is no excuse. he did not respect our freedoms.

it's very dangerous to believe a leader is beyond reproach

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AngelaK's avatar

I am sorry. 😪

Our country is starting to suck, and it doesn't matter who is President..just that the democrats are more than corrupt, they have become satanic.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

exactly! And that's why they also use euphemism to make them feel good about how the words sound rather than the evil represented by the grotesque symbolism used to camoflauge wickedness as empathy. perfect example:

"Gender affirming care"

The other side of the same coin is to label people as "anti" this and "anti" that...and DENIER's, etc. etc.

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Astragale's avatar

The libs found it fairly easy to roll out child mutilation - sterilizing children - as “gender-affirming care”. They’re treading a bit more carefully with MAPS - “minor-attracted persons”. But...many in western societies think the mutilation is fine, just as they are accepting medical murder (“MAID”). Will people finally wake the hell up as libs tell them it’s great that a 30-year-old is “dating” their small child?

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Right?! It's wickedness.

It ain't going away until the middle recognizes we're already in a revolution. We need a counter-revolution.

That starts by informing (easy just point out the idiocracy) the middle/normies that the revolution by The Left started, in earnest, 20 years ago.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I blame the governors for that. They had the power to decide and mostly decided to harm small businesses and freedom.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Yeah but Trump gave them cover.

But don't get me wrong I'm all in on Trump

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RunningLogic's avatar

Well he tried to get places to open up before Easter and got all kinds of grief. I just don’t think he really had the power to do much. And whatever he was for, the blue states would be against. Remember when he said he thought states should lock down, the governors said he couldn’t make them. Then when he wanted to ease up and start reopening, they said they weren’t going to because it wasn’t safe. He had no real enforcement power for whatever he thought should be done on the state level. At least not any he was willing to use, like Biden with Medicare and HHS and federal contractors for the vax mandates.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

We're 94% on the same page. good enough for me...:)

no seriously, the inflection point (and what i'm blaming him for) was the day the 15 days was extended for another 30.

arrgh...thar sheeee blows!

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RunningLogic's avatar

I share your frustration. Not that he’s blameless but I feel like it was a damned if you do, damned if you don’t kind of scenario 😕 At the time he got so much pushback for wanting to reopen. Maybe he should’ve just plowed ahead and done what he could to force reopening (not sure that would have worked anyway, if the governors simply refused to reopen), but I am not sure that that wouldn’t have backfired either 😕 But the should’ve would’ves don’t really help us now, do they 😕 What’s done is done, unfortunately.

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Astragale's avatar

Trump’s a businessman. In business, when you’re confronted by a problem outside your experience, you consult/hire people who are proven/widely considered to be experts. You don’t build your own IT or security systems - you get experts in. Trump was well aware that virology & epidemiology were way outside his experience. Unfortunately, the obvious “expert” to consult was the (filthy) individual who’d been “managing” public health forever. Yes can imagine Fauci telling him “Mr President, follow my expert advice or millions of Americans will DIE”.

Trump’s instincts were right: there must be treatments (there were); the ‘cure’ (lockdown) can’t be worse than the illness. But again, he had “experts” warning darkly of mass fatalities.

He has opposed injection mandates, which is good. He should - of course - admit he was manipulated to get the mRNA to market. And he should admit their toxicity. Given his personality, he probably won’t. That’s clearly a FLAW - but as long as he continues to support bodily autonomy & certainly if he exits the WHO, he deserves support!

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CStone's avatar

Bless your heart. I would love to see how you would have functioned having all that the demons from hell could throw at you, as it was the enter four years of his presidency as well as his entire campaign. lol. You would have cried the first day.

I have come to the conclusion that ALL the TDS ‘entities’ have come out in force today and will continue to come here to speak ill and spew their vitriol against Trump up until he wins and will continue to do so for his entire 4 years (if they don’t JFK him).

Not one of the people on here disparaging Trump could have accomplished what he did under the circumstances he was operating. Not you or any of these other ‘entities’.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Dude. I'm the biggest Trump supporter your going to find.

Whats the problem. And why are you patronizing me?

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