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Yuri Bezmenov's avatar

Great win to start the weekend! MAHA voters need to show up for the midterms. All of this can be reversed if the democrats take power again, they are still mandating flu shots and aggressive vax schedules in blue states.

Dave Slough's avatar

State of MD said they were ignoring the HepB CDC mandate and were running full steam ahead in jabbing newborns

Evil is as evil does

KC & the Sunshine's avatar

Then Maryland needs to get out the info on HepB. If “birthing persons” know the facts, they’ll stop the 💉 at birth and down the line.

PLS post this win on all social media, AND get in Aaron Siri’s FB page and JusttheInserts.com. He posts videos daily — often of himself in court, and he makes sense. Any mom with 3 brain cells to rub together will see the light.

Lori's avatar

Aaron Siri is a hero. His new book Vaccines Amen was an amazing read.

Lisa Ca's avatar

When was this one published?

Anne Clifton's avatar

Lisa, it is very recently published and it is incredible. I don't see how anyone could read it and continue to "believe" in vaccines. The problem is, they won't read it.

KC & the Sunshine's avatar

I did!!! He’s fantastic. He knows his stuff. He tends to WIN his court cases. He’s the best thing to happen to

vaccines and courtrooms. It’s almost as if we had our own Jeff Childers in there.

Yeah, I’m gushing. Sue me! 😉

Lydia Lozano's avatar

Maybe send a copy to State of Maryland Department of Health?

Lori's avatar

Darn right Anne!

Lori's avatar

Its a must read Lisa. You will be even more appalled at how they played all of us for this long.

Debra Jackson's avatar

Checked out the site. It is well done and informative. Thank you.

SJacob1957's avatar

Thank you for sharing the link to JusttheInserts.com. What a great resource ❤️

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

And, there's this: "New JAMA paper claim vaccines reduced COVID deaths by 75% and were associated with a 25% reduction in non-COVID ACM."

So, the jabbers are in no way, shape, or form giving up the fight to keep filling you and me and every baby with poisons... errrr, I mean vaccines which will kill us.... errrr, I mean will give us turbo cancers and life long health problems.... errr, I mean, will make big pharma and their shills bigly rich while also doing the other three... there I got it right.

But, Steve Kirsch says not so fast JAMA and lays out his case here: https://kirschsubstack.com/p/new-jama-paper-claim-vaccines-reduced

While ending the absolute treachery of jabbing new born babies with their Hep B virus is a wonderful accomplishment from RFK, JR and which will likely save countless babies from disastrous health outcomes, the fight is far from over. The evil people who got rich and powerful have no intention of abandoning their abominable activities and efforts.

Garden Lover's avatar

So, when I was pregnant with my daughter, I had a HepB blood test. It came back positive. They left the news on my answering machine for anyone to hear. This freaked me out, but I knew I didn’t have HepB. (Not a drug user, not promiscuous.) I ran out and got another blood test. Not only was I tested, but we tested my husband.

Guess what? Both came back negative.

I returned to the hospital with the new tests, and they didn’t want to accept them. Matter of fact, it’s possible that the county health department still thinks I have HepB, even though I never did.

They wanted to give my daughter the vaccine even though I didn’t have it. After some research regarding this vaccine, I discovered that, even if I had the disease, giving the vaccine after birth will do zero to prevent the baby from contracting it as it was already exposed to the disease in utero and as well as when it passed through the birth canal.

By the way, I called my OB/GYN’s office about it, and they told me it was no big deal. I set up an appointment anyway where they gave me this print out on yellow paper that told me nothing that I didn’t already know.

I refused the vaccine for my daughter. A good thing because it would’ve killed her.

A lot of people believe, and there is research to back it up, that those with the MTHFR gene are more prone to injuries and death from vaccines, and all that is needed is for the doctors to test for it. But they won’t. The question is: why?

daverkb's avatar

Thanks much for telling your story. It incredible. This great wonderful world we live in, it's like it is all rigged and designed to push us into madness. It's like they really do want to kill us all. And I more believe that now in light of the fake covid operation experience than not.

Society organized by madness, and it is an invasion across all disciplines.

Leo's avatar

It is a business plan: sick citizens buy more pharma meds.

Garden Lover's avatar

Yup. The sicker you are, the more they make.

Observer's avatar

This film may shed some light on " Society organized by madness" ....

KABBALAH - The Religion of the Serpent

https://old.bitchute.com/video/nB6sNqgjST9N/

"Kabbalah is the oldest religion on earth. It began with the serpent in the Garden of Eden as he deceived Eve into believing she too could become like God. Kabbalah contains all of the fallen-angel doctrines of occult magick, dark rituals, and divination that have corrupted the human race throughout history and into the present day. Over the ages it has been cleverly disguised as many different things, and is the core foundation behind every powerful secret society.

Kabbalah is ultimately the religion of Lucifer, and is contained within the forbidden Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, also known in Kabbalah as the Sefirot Tree of Life.

As a Born-Again believer in Jesus Christ, I have come to recognize Kabbalah as the antithesis to the Biblical Gospel taught in the New Testament."

daverkb's avatar

Thanks. This stuff is prevalent among 'the people' running the world, especially in the West. My conclusions are similar to your, and after a lifetime of study, it does appear to come down to this, enter into the light or be condemned in darkness. And darkness has many, many variations on the same thing.

Susan V's avatar

I remember back in the 90's reading how Madonna ( I was stupidly a huge fan) embraced the Kabbalah. Makes total sense and she continued selling her soul to the devil throughout the decades

Amuzed_Traveler's avatar

Welcome to the realization. The ruling oligarchs DO want to enslave you, for profit and other nefarious motives, and retain the authority to kill you when you are no longer profitable.

Garden Lover's avatar

Yup. I’ve been aware of this for decades.

Truth Seeker's avatar

Yours was a false positive, an extremely common lab goof up.

When I studied lab tests over 3 decades ago the instructor was an MD who

owned 3 labs in S Cal. He began the course by asking what % the students believed were erroneous results. No one had a clue.

He then revealed at least 40% !!! At the best labs!!!

The Medical Cartel is underwater, let them drown.

Mary Pat FitzGibbons's avatar

Wow, that is an incredibly high false rate!!!

Truth Seeker's avatar

and that was the rate from the "best" labs

That illustrates the point that lab results are terrible at best.

Garden Lover's avatar

That’s why you should get more than one test. I’m so grateful I had support and people who advised me to get tested again, and to have my husband tested.

My OB/GYN was not happy that I chose to do it. They don’t like to be questioned.

Patti's avatar

That gene! Doctors offices don’t tell parents you can get a blood test to see if your baby will filter out vaccines. Nope they push these damn shots. Disgusting. They treat parents like they are stupid and some are but the majority want the best for their children and think the doctors do also. Trust is given to freely to doctors and nurses

Garden Lover's avatar

People have been indoctrinated to trust doctors and nurses.

Dave Slough's avatar

A larger problem is the AMA. If a doctor supersedes that guidance and something happens he’s gonna lose in court easily

Judges take the “science” and the AMA as gospel

Danielle's avatar

Where were their precious HIPAA laws? You could have sued them for that breach of privacy.

They are VERY quick to use them, when it suits THEM.

Eruca Sativa's avatar

At this point I'm convinced HIPAA is just a way for your information to be more easily accessed and shared.

Alice in Wonderland's avatar

"No 'duh,'" as the kids say. They are geniuses, at this point, in betraying the trusting among us. They leverage it everywhere They can, and have sickening success, especially with the most innocent, naive, and vulnerable among us. May They receive Their due. As soon as possible.

Truth Seeker's avatar

It was always a scam to "protect" your privacy when in fact they collected

your data and sold it...

Garden Lover's avatar

I know. I was pissed, but I agree with Truth Seeker about this now: it’s a scam to collect our data.

Kathy Sincere's avatar

"They" won't test for MTHFR because they KNOW that 16% of the population is homozygous for that genetic variant. One out of six people are majorly affected by vaccines. Interesting correlation - 1 out of 6 children in this country are neurologically impaired.

Eruca Sativa's avatar

How would you know you have that variant without testing for it? Are there any indications that you are aware of?

Garden Lover's avatar

There are signs, supposedly. One of them is called the sugar bug kiss (I believe). It’s a red/pinkish mark between the eyebrows of children with it. My daughter had it.

SQ's avatar

Very impressive, Garden Lover!

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Check out this email that just landed in my inbox:

https://www.americanlibertyreportnews.com/articles/cdc-panel-votes-to-continue-giving-children-autism-with-the-hepb-vaccine/

In it, the rest of the story: "Many parents in the autism community were excited about this ACIP meeting. Unfortunately, the board voted 8-2 to move the Hepatitis B vaccination up to two months after a baby is born, if the mother tests negative. In other words, babies will be mass-vaccinated at two months instead of within 24 hours of birth."

WTF???

I guess my next question, is the vaccine mandatory or can parents opt out?

Lori's avatar

Just opt out. Don't go to the doctors office for the jabs. Find a naturopath or holistic MD to go to. The pediatricians are demons with syringes.

Melissa MB's avatar

The majority of my 16 grandchildren are unvaccinated. It can be difficult to find a doctor who will take you (your kids) as a patient. But ask around. There are doctors who will respect your decisions. Not many but they do exist

Lori's avatar

Best news all day. 16 grandchildren not jabbed. Music to the ears!

Garden Lover's avatar

Yup. We never go unless it’s absolutely necessary. (e.g., when I blew my knee out.)

Garden Lover's avatar

Well, back then, I was able to opt out, and I think you still can. Of course, the pediatrician may kick you out of their practice, but that’s a small price to pay for a healthy baby.

daverkb's avatar

I have to wonder, does anybody noticed that 'opt out' is not Liberty? And that 'opt out' is really still the control system where 'they' define who can and cannot 'opt out.' And 'they' can define choices any way they please and back everyone into a corner like a rat.

Liberty is when 'they' cannot compel you to do something in the first place for lack of standing. Because Liberty is outside their judicial power.

Observer's avatar

corned rats bite - If you feel its more harmful than beneficial don't take their for profit poison, consider strong resistance....

Garden Lover's avatar

Yes, it’s BS. If you opt out, in CA, they try to force you to sign something that says you accept responsibility if something happens to them.

Tio Nico's avatar

then tell that sorry excuse o a doc to not let the door hit him too hard on his derierre as you leave.

Then go look up a good doc.

YOU are the parent o that child, not the doc.

Garden Lover's avatar

Yup. We have a doctor assigned to us by the insurance company, but we haven’t been to them in ages.

STH's avatar

You can definitely say NO. My daughter said absolutely not to both the HepB and “Vit K”. The hospital still badgered her incessantly, but that baby never left her side (they’ll jab them anyway if you let them take them away) and is completely unvaccinated at 15mos. and thriving.

Patti's avatar

I had an employee last February refuse all also and the doctor called CPS(probably had the nurse do it) and said it was hospital policy. Ha! I told my employee ask for a copy of the hospital policy. That doctor turned RED! Didn’t like getting called out because there is no such policy. CPS investigated and of coarse found nothing. Wanted to do home visit my employee declined it.

Garden Lover's avatar

Good for you. These doctors need to be called out for their BS.

ViaVeritasVita's avatar

So, don't take your baby to the "2 month well check". Kind of difficult to escape, if giving birth in the hospital (another reason to move toward home birth).

STH's avatar

My daughter found a wonderful nurse practitioner that respects her right to not vaccinate.

Karen's avatar

Why take a well baby to the doctor? So they can make money giving shots. If possible, breast feed. New studies are out, saying that breast milk is even more valuable than was thought in the past. When my grandchildren were sick, the pediatrition didn't want to see them. Just wanted the money for the shots. Worthless.

ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Agree. Thanks for adding to my comment.

Willing Spirit's avatar

People need to learn to stand up and just say no!

Too many can’t withstand disapproval, much less any kind of sacrifice-like having to seek alternative health care.

Patti's avatar

I had out a book about vaccines to every expecting mother I can. I share that knowledge starts before the baby come into this world because you’re already behind so buckle up and start learning

Eruca Sativa's avatar

I call people "order followers", to their faces if necessary. You can see the gears turning when they realize they're just doing as they're told. Possibly it's caused some to reflect deeply on their reasons for doing what they're told.

Danielle's avatar

The other problem is the guilt trip from medical staff and the implication that you may be killing your baby.

“Grandma killer” sound familiar?

Willing Spirit's avatar

Societal disapproval, right? Who cares?

Melissa MB's avatar

I feel like it’s a stepping stone. The only way to be certain your baby will not get the HepB shot is to never let it out of your sight. The two month suggestion is a good window to stop the auto shots. Then just refused the shot at 2 months. We are slowly dismantling their system of 72 shots But IT IS being dismantled.

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

It needs to be dismantled. It is a crime against children, a crime against humanity. The idea that 18, or 36, let alone 72 shots can be mandated or good is unconscionable malpractice. Its been a con job and a crime against humanity at least since 1986 when "our" corrupt congress gave the pharma criminals no liability for vaccines. How in the name of hell could they do that? Because they are corrupt criminals at their core and they don't really give a damn about the American people except for how much cash and power they can bilk out of us. It makes my damn trigger finger twitch!

If some people are dumb enough to allow their children's health to be destroyed, to have their natural God given immunity system crushed, then they should have to get the damn shots, side-by-side along with the helpless children/victims. Let's see how long it lasts then.

Patti's avatar

Just say NO! NO TO VACCINES

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

I do, every time. But the poor children, who have no voice dont get to opt out because of the stupid parents or criminals in education.

Alice in Wonderland's avatar

This is such a big part of the problem! Expecting moms and new mothers are NOT a population well trained is asserting their rights (to put it mildly) and The System is, at this point, VERY well trained in trampling them. HAVING a right (in this case, the right of refusal, which has *always* been the case, LEGALLY) does exactly and literally no good in scenarios where Someone is determined to disrespect that right and it is not aggressively asserted and defended (by the poor mom, as if she hasn't got enough to focus her energy on!)

Lori's avatar

May Hotez, Fauci, Birx, Wollensky, Offit pay a price so profound for harming our kids. The list is longer than those names but they are some of the most despicable.

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

If you've read "The Real Anthony Fauci" by RFK Jr, then you know the price should be death by hanging or firing squad, and Im not being hyperbolic in saying that. As far as any parent that would willingly do this to their child, they should have to get the damn shots, side-by-side along with the helpless children/victims. I do not know for a fact, if vax ever made since, if it was ever done with the scientific knowledge that it could help, but I do know since 1986, when our corrupt congress gave then immunity from liability, it became the crime against humanity it is today. It's beyond despicable, I don't have the words for it, but I do hope when they stand before God for their judgement, he gives them a one way ticket to hell to burn in eternity.

Lori's avatar

Reminds me of Matthew 18 verse 6: “If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.

Scott's avatar

Yep, massive buckets of ill-gotten jabber money will continue to flood the field with garbage studies. That dreck twists the algorithms and AI responses, too. Part of the plan.

KC & the Sunshine's avatar

Every time I see these trash “studies” and false claims, I post a REALLY good reply from Aaron Siri’s FB page or JusttheInserts.com . I’ve gotten to be a pretty quick “draw” and Aaron’s always outdoes their crapola in content and proof.

RunningLogic's avatar

Aaron Siri is a total rock star in this fight!! So rational and knowledgeable!

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

And from where did the jabber money originally come? Yours and my wallets and pocketbooks in the form of taxes redistributed by the reprobates in congress - who also get their full cut.

SD Scott's avatar

This. Criminal congresscritters.

daverkb's avatar

I have to wonder if in some way or another our 'victories' may turn out to be short lived Pyrrhic unless we go for the juggler of spin and fake word narrative. I am grateful for traction in a better direction, but ... unless we smash through their lines and annihilate the Demons, 'they' will do it again. Just open the door to 'them' one more time and be sure of it.

Carrie's avatar

And medscape (absolute rag of a publication) published an article stating that mass hep b vaccines in neonates have decreased hep b transmission by some crazy high number. Do they realize how stupid they sound???

Stephen Carter's avatar

Is it true the hideous EU is ramping up their killshot campaign as a lead-in to the 2026 Fourth Reich celebrations?

Carlos's avatar

They will be sued into oblivion - and lose federal funding.

FAFO.

Lori's avatar

I can't wait. End the PREP act!

Gina Borggrebe's avatar

Evil and corrupt!! Stay strong parents. It’s up to you to refuse the poison you are letting them give your kids!!

Dave Slough's avatar

Exactly at the end of the day the parents need to be the one who makes the decisions. Not the nurses who take your baby

A lot of peeps on the left work in the medical field

Keep your head on a swivel and make sure dad is there controlling the newborns first days as mom and baby rest in bed

SD Scott's avatar

Or just give birth at home. Fewer germs & lunatics. Cheaper, too.

CindyLou's avatar

Yup, that is what my daughter did. Worked great for her, and she didn't have to worry about surreptitious jabs!

Lori's avatar

Our kids are not voodoo dolls to be stuck with needles.

Dr Linda's avatar

That is dreadful

Pat Wetzel's avatar

Is that a whiff of lawsuit I smell in the air?

Judith Cohen's avatar

Same in Washington State and I am sure California and Oregon will follow

St. Alia the Knife's avatar

The "West Coast Health Alliance" has already stated they are keeping the HepB jab requirement for their states. The "Alliance" consists of WA, OR, CA, and HI, and I believe NV and CO joined, as well, but I cannot find the posting where I read that bit of information. I will have to keep looking for confirmation.

Mrs. "the Knife"

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Anybody that stays in those states deserve their outcomes.

St. Alia the Knife's avatar

For many people it is complicated. Many people with ailing, elderly parents cannot readily just pick up and move, as much as they might want to leave for a "free" state.

Mrs. "the Knife"

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

I think it is more a matter of urgency and priority for the vast majority of people. But even where there are elderly parents, unless they are hospitalized, extremely disabled or bed ridden, they could and should get out of these evil places. I just want them all to be in a better situation.

Robird's avatar

Perhaps the citizens of Maryland like to be forced into useless interventions. Or, maybe they do not. Seems like a good issue to put up to a vote. Or a lawsuit if a baby is vaccinated contrary to the parent’s wishes. I hope it portends future cracks in the authoritarian wall of progressive governance.

SB's avatar

Wonder how long it’ll take Trump to shut off federal funds to MD?

SD Scott's avatar

This is probably why the media is hushing it up: to pretend to uninformed parents that the protocol is unchanged.

Stephen Carter's avatar

Give us yer newborn! He's gotta be jabbed likes all da rest of us. It's only 72 jabs. We wanted 120 health-enhancing jabs 😁 but we had to scale back our mission.

Susan V's avatar

Same in my home demonic state of NY

ILoveherbs's avatar

Massachusetts did as well! 😠

NAB's avatar

I had a routine doctor visit to check up on my thyroid blood work when my doctor, whom I haven't seen in at least 10 years, reviewed the list of vaccines for which I am currently eligible (everything from annual flu, to shingles vax to pneumovax, and - of course - covid). I put it to him simply: "I don't trust the medical establishment anymore. It blew its reputation during Covid so now you all have to earn my trust again." Surprisingly, he agreed (in part). He said they made "a mess of things" during Covid and pushed an unproven vaccine on the public without any discernment. He said, however, that he STILL recommends all the other shots - including flu (I pointed out that a study done by the Cleveland Clinic showed negative efficacy for last year's flu shot), and noted that the recommended age has been lowered for shingles and pneumovax. "Nope. Not taking them. You can mark my chart 'declined.'"

Jake's avatar

At my annual VA physical a couple of years ago they recommended I get the shingles shot. I had never had one before and I was in my 70's. I don't take flu shots anymore but I heard that Shingles was pretty nasty so I said yes, give me the shot. Two weeks later I had a nasty headache. I had shingles, damn.... Just about lost vision in my right eye and it still is fuzzy. I've always wondered if the vaccine gave me the shingles....

Peace's avatar

AbsoLUTELY that vaccine gave you shingles. The insert will actually state that as a side effect. I'm in multiple shingles online groups and many of these folks got shingles from the vaccine.

Holly's avatar

Yes, just like the ‘flu’ shot.

NAB's avatar

Oh, that is awful. My guess, as a nurse, is that, yes, that shot gave you shingles by either triggering the latent virus in your body or by making you susceptible to circulating virus. That is terrible.

Starsky's avatar

I’ve posted this here before, but it’s worth repeating. I came down with a wicked case of shingles two days after I took a Pilates Reformer class next to a woman who was bragging she had taken the Shingrex shot that very day. You cannot convince me that crap didn’t shed onto me. The blisters extended from my bikini line down the full length of my leg, did not respond to antivirals, and didn’t abate until I went to a naturopathic clinic, where they gave me a 38g infusion of vitamin C, glutathione, and a high dose regimen of vitamin A.

LMWC's avatar

I had an emergency pacemaker inserted in December of last year. Recovered fine, but have a router right next to my bed to monitor while I sleep. End of March this year I got shingles on my face. All around my nose, lips, inside my mouth, down my chin and over to my left ear. While it was not excruciatingly painful, it took a month to fully heal, and I still can get tingling of the nerve endings around my one and mouth. I take no drugs and am rarely I’ll. I still believe the pacemaker had something to do with the shingles attack.

NoVA mom's avatar

My husband took the first dose (without my knowledge…) and developed an allergy to walnuts shortly thereafter…. You mess with your immune system - you don’t know what will happen. Have 2 vx injured daughters…from meningitis vx….i wish I knew what I know now 20+ yrs ago 😔

Patti's avatar

Ya NO MORE VACCINES! Just say NO

CHop's avatar

My 80+ mom refuses the Shingles shot for one reason: many of her friends who got the shot ended up with shingles.

daverkb's avatar

I guess that if you got the shingles shot and you got shingles, the shot was at the very minimum totally useless.

However, and perversely, maybe 'they' call it the shingles shot because it give you shingle?

And what is it? 72 shots in 'the schedule? It's got to be some kind of cult.

Eruca Sativa's avatar

The only people who get the flu are people who get themselves vaccinated for it. The rest of us get an occasional mild cold, if that.

Robird's avatar

Occurrence of shingles in the first month following vaccination is 15/7500 in the efficacy study. 0.2%. Bad luck is the most likely cause.

There is no shedding of the eG antigen from the product, it cannot jump from one person to another except through body fluids.

HZ virus does not circulate, it lies dormant in the dorsal horn of the spinal cord. Reactivated by stress,illness,infection and as noted rarely by Shingrex vaccine.

Zostavax ( a live virus HZ vaccine) has not been available in the US since November 2020.

Skepticism about vaccines is appropriate and necessary, but there are still vaccines that work well. If you don’t trust your physician/provider, then look up the information and use your own judgment. Blanket rejection is just as foolish as blanket acceptance.

Anecdote is not the same as data.

Eruca Sativa's avatar

Anecdote is better than "data". Only an idiot needs a double-blind, peer-reviewed study to know not to ingest poison that experience has shown is actual poison. But knock yourself out!

Robird's avatar

Not all data requires double blind studies. But it does require more rigor than anecdote. Human thought looks for cause and effect and will create it when none exists frequently. To trust anecdote over data is emotional rather than rational thinking.

But you do you and enjoy mental short cuts. Because of course vaccines are not cyanide or high dose radiation with immediate effect.

NAB's avatar

Both my PCP and my OB/GYN docs got shingles despite being vaccinated. I suppose their bouts could have been more serious without the vaccine, but my OB was actually hospitalized.

NAB's avatar

Would circulating varicella trigger a shingles outbreak in older people? I know with the chicken pox vaccine, that is highly unlikely now, too, but there was a theory that prior to the introduction of the chicken pox vaccine, adults - who had CP as children - would be re-exposed to the virus from kids and thus continually mount a response to the virus preventing shingles. Does that make sense?

Robird's avatar

No. Re exposure to varicella zoster will decrease the incidence of shingles by “ immune boost.”

NAB's avatar

Sorry. One more question - can a person check titer levels if they had chicken pox as a kid? I am, frankly, terrified of getting the Shingles vaccine because every person I know who got it, had a terrible experience with it (either contracted shingles or had a flu-like reaction). This is what Covid has done to me. Thank you, Dr. McDevitt.

NAB's avatar

Thank you! The theory made sense to me since shingles and CP are caused by the same virus. So the latent virus is reactivated by some sort of stress or not inhibited by an aging, weakened immune system? Wouldn't the shingles vaccine in itself be considered a stressor or immune challenge?

happyinfl's avatar

I got a mild case of shingles that kept me out of work for a week after a friend went to Walgreens & got a shingles jab then came to my house. 3 days later, shingles!

Starsky's avatar

Sounds like yet another “anecdotal case of bad luck!”SMH.

Cabogirl's avatar

Yep. It does do that.

Susan V's avatar

Yes, sadly it did. Keep telling your story to anyone who will listen. Plant seeds!!

STH's avatar

I fired two PCPs (one was surprisingly a naturopath) during Covid for recommending shots that could have killed me. More people need to do that for this will not change until doctors start losing patients.

Karen Bandy's avatar

I fired my naturopath after she said she follows CDC guidelines. It was sad, I really liked her, and she took insurance. (that was before I turned 65).

My new naturopath took medicare advantage but now the office is breaking up, downsizing, and she is going to another group who doesn’t take it. I’ll have to do self pay, and I bet I have to pay the new patient rate when I see her the first time. Their excuse, all the paperwork involved in a new patient, but IT’s self pay!! There should be no paperwork, like insurance paperwork!!! Soooo pissed. Just as we’re making progress on reducing my need for thyroid meds. No other doc would touch the subject, another MD naturopath in the same office and my PC.

Lots of blood labs in my future.

Sorry, just bitching, I guess we have OBummer to blame.

Patti's avatar

If a doctor or office takes insurance they are bought and paid for! Find one that doesn’t and you may have a critical thinker.

Karen Bandy's avatar

True, the whole medical industrial complex would need to be unwound for that to work. We’d be paying huge overblown prices for things like labs, prices that are based on the machine.

Patti's avatar

Actually there are choices now. More now than 5 years ago. Direct patient care. I pay a monthly subscription. Usually by age. So I think mine is 55.00 a month. I get 2 or 3 visits a year with that. I get discounts. Labs are not as expensive when not going thru insurance. I think for my thyroid. Regular. BC, CMP, CRP(I have hoshimotos) plus an autoimmune panel I paid a little over a hundred dollars?!? There are health shares you can pay into. In case of cancer, injury, hospital stays ect. There are surgery centers that you can pay to have surgeries. Of coarse not emergent. That would be a hospital and health shares. It’s learning about it differently and reprogramming your brain as we’ve been taught something else.

Vince's avatar

I tell my doc that I am up to date on all vaccines. Nothing to discuss on that. It works.

SaltSweet's avatar

That’s what I do too. But the other day while picking up a prescription at CVS the pharmacy assistant asked if I’d had my Covid and flu shot yet. I stammered, I was so taken aback. I lied…”yes, I took care of that at my MD office” sheesh

M2's avatar

Why even lie? I’d flat out say “no chance on that poison”. You never know who might hear and be inspired to do some research.

Quiltlady's avatar

They caught you unaware. Be prepared for the next time and tell them you don't trust any of the shots and will never take another one as long as you live. We have to be bold and get the truth out . It could save someone else from death or a life of misery.

Jeannie Harshbarger's avatar

Recently I had my port removed after being in there 9 yrs. from chemo with cancer. Only had a few treatments when I ended deathly ill from double pneumonia and ended up on a ventilator for 21 days. But refused chemo afterwards. Had kept it in since they always have a hard time doing IVs, but learning now that except for chemo, no one will use it. When prepping for surgery, they asked if I agreed to a blood transfusion if needed. I'm 79, no jabs. Told them no. I don't want tainted blood.

happyinfl's avatar

I said the same thing before endoscopy. The nurse said, wow- never thought of that!

Vince's avatar

I've told the lie so many times it rolls off my tongue with ease. I may have brainwashed myself into believing I have taken all the shots. lol

CMCM's avatar

In a similar situation the other day at CVS, my response was "Absolutely not." The pharm asst didn't say anything further, he knew better.

SB's avatar

I know it’s such an assault. I’ve had the same thing happen. Idk maybe we should start saying we feel violated and discriminated, oh or triggered! when we’re asked that question?

Susan V's avatar

why lie... I would have said "ABSOLUTELY NOT- and you are an ignorant medical professional for suggesting that I do so. Do you FN research" I get it though you were taken aback. Next time you go back maybe you can enlighten them

L1's avatar

Good for you to point out the Cleveland clinic study. They need to understand we are armed with facts. I’m thankful that people like Jeff are helping get the word out to more people!

Eruca Sativa's avatar

Sorry but, your doctor's an idiot, like the majority of them are.

Matt L.'s avatar

I had a similar discussion w/ my physician. Her explanation for why the Covid vaccine did not prevent transmission was because each jab & booster was chasing the tail of the last mutation. She recommended shingles shot for me, I also declined it.

Joseph Kaplan's avatar

Me too. My last flu shot was the year I was discharged from the army-1966.

Susan V's avatar

any doctor recommending the flu shot is an idiot- plain and simple

AJF's avatar

NAB good for you! This is exactly what everyone who sees a doc should be saying!

Guy White's avatar

Indeed Yuri. The “West Coast Health Alliance” — a 4-state (includes Hawaii) bureaucratic axis of evil using the guise of “public health” — is doing an end-run around the MAHA progress with their own “recommendations” (see https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/west-coast-health-alliance-continues-to-recommend-universal-hepatitis-b-vaccine/). Yep, the Left Coast and their liberal/progressive governments continues to hold anchor as a stronghold of utopian ideals and authoritarian excess. We know there are plenty of CA, OR, WA and HI residents who will bow down to these clowns and follow their advice, to their own peril; I have no problem with consenting adults choosing to take things into their bodies, but their babies have no such agency. The harm will continue as long as the masses follow their emotional manipulators.

Patti's avatar

Ugh I’m in Washington and am so embarrassed 🙈 king county rules our state. I still think there is cheating because I just cannot believe there is that many dumb Washingtonians

Lori's avatar

I’m in Oregon and I have the same thoughts.

Kitkat's avatar

I’m in Commiefornia and feel exact same way. Dems have perfected election cheating.

Maureen Hanf's avatar

Born and raised in western Washington until I was 23 and have spent most of my adult years away. Currently 61 and living in Eastern Washington which is the more tolerable half for me.

I started to see the changes in western WA to where it is today as far back as the late seventies/early eighties. So this is nothing new to me, unfortunately.

The few friends and family I have here are all well outside of King County, to be sure.

Starsky's avatar

The few friends and family I have in King and Pierce counties are no longer speaking to the rest of us that are not there drinking the Kool Aid.

Maureen Hanf's avatar

Mine are fairly sane but don’t think they would be if they lived in King or Pierce or Bellevue etc.

Patti's avatar

I’m in eastern Washington also.

Robird's avatar

Sadly elections demonstrate that there are that many dumb Washingtonians.

Guy White's avatar

Unfortunately there are (that many stupid residents) and they all reside in King, Pierce, and the counties going north from Olympia to the Canadian border. Election results maps show the line of separation clearly. Plus they cheat

Karen Bandy's avatar

Makes me sad as I’m a third generation Oregonian. Sad and ashamed of my beautiful state.

Beth M's avatar

I had my son in a Portland hospital two years ago and refused all jabs. The docs and nurses were so cruel and condescending towards me you would think I was leaving my newborn for the wolves. I eventually went before a judge where it was determined the state cannot forcibly vaccinate someone's child, and we still have religious exemptions here. I will homeschool him if I have to, he will never be poisoned on my watch.

Karen Bandy's avatar

Excellent!!! A dear Portland friend’s daughter just had a baby. Not sure the status but I hope and pray they at least refused some shots. He and I had a huge disagreement over the covid vax so I didn’t bring it up, but hoping since he’s conservative he has woken up. The daughter is awake too. The other daughter not so much. A teacher!

Susan V's avatar

You go mama!!! Well done

Cabogirl's avatar

I’m from there too. It really disturbs me as I know this has nothing to do with health and safety but everything to do with hate Trump. !!!! That’s it. How could these libs be more stupid. ??

Karen Bandy's avatar

Where are you? I’m in Central Or.

Cabogirl's avatar

Spent my whole adult life in Portland. Raised my kids, worked for years as a commercial interior designer in Downtown Portland. Downtown was thriving and very nice.

Karen Bandy's avatar

I worked for a jewelry designer in downtown Portland, that’s how I got started in the industry. Ran my own business in Bend for 35 years.

I knew some interior designers in the early to mid ‘80’s when I was there.

Patti's avatar

It used to be a beautiful city.

Cabogirl's avatar

I’m from Milwaukie Oregon but currently spend time in Mexico off and on.

CHop's avatar

It's so crazy because 15-20 years ago the majority of antivaxxers were in the West coast states. It's scary how quickly they can reshape the public's minds. The people will have to be the change. If the majority refuse it, the powers that be can't win.

Eruca Sativa's avatar

15-20 years ago the Left was at the forefront of alternative medicine and healthy food movements. I still remember my surprise during the scamdemic when I realized that was no longer the case.

Karen Bandy's avatar

Thanks, good info.

Karen Bandy's avatar

She’s stayed under the radar, I’ll read this.

SD Scott's avatar

Consenting adults - if informed of ACTUAL risks / benefits.

Too much fake science.

NeoBob's avatar

Indeed. In fact, Gov. Ferguson of WA has indicated outright war against Bobby’s HHS. https://x.com/govbobferguson/status/1996662359260385465?s=61

Bard Joseph's avatar

The World Order sets up countless groups to promote any type of idea, and then sets up other groups to fanatically oppose them, but the masters have no dedication to anything except slavery." The World Order Eustace Mullins 1992

Ol' Doc Skepsis's avatar

"It was telling that the pro-vaccine brigades refused to come. They must have felt that it would be no use."

Translation: they knew they wouldn't be able to blatantly lie to smart, savvy peers and get away with it.

WINNING 😎

Peace's avatar

They didn't want every one of their position statements refuted in a logical and factual way.

Sierra Carr's avatar

And on record to boot!

GregWA's avatar

Sorry, Yuri, should have read your comment before posting mine! Same sentiment!

Melissa MB's avatar

I, too, am thinking the same thing. We can’t let dems take control of our government ever again

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

They will if we don't stop the networked, programmable machines and wholesale mail in ballot fraud which they use to steal our elections.

Ann Moody's avatar

Read Elizabeth Nickson’s Substack about Venezuala’s voting manipulation computers.

Karen Bandy's avatar

Anyone have any info on the pneumonia jab? That is the only one my husband’s doctor is pushing. My doctor didn’t push any. We’re both around 70 and healthy.

Lori's avatar

I personally would not take it. How do we really know what is in them no matter what the package insert says. I refuse to take it.

daverkb's avatar

I don't trust the medical establishment as far as I can throw them. Only alternative health people.

Lori's avatar

Morning Dave! Agreed!

NAB's avatar

Hi Karen. This is the only one I briefly contemplated receiving (I am 58. Previously it was recommended for people over 60, but that age has been lowered to 50! I would love to know why. Are those who took Covid shots more compromised now? Will we ever get honest answers?) It's generally a one-and-done shot, so there's that. But like flu, it's guessing about which strains of bacteria to include which is why they update it.

Midwestern Doc did an extensive article on all the vaccines on the CDC schedule which you can find here:

https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/what-are-the-risks-and-benefits-of

Karen Bandy's avatar

Thanks so much. Going there right now.

We must also remember that pneumonia can be viral or bacterial. It can start with a tiny foreign object that has gotten into the lungs, I think the word pneumonia is just a catchall word. So, yea, how could one shot cover all scenarios?

ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Hmm. But I took the pneumonia shot (are there several?) and was offered a second....so not only "one and done"--which led me to wonder about different formulations (as AZ, J&J were one shot, PFE and MRNA were two)

jman's avatar

Perhaps it is one and done-until you get the one, and then it is two and through. Later it becomes three and free, four and out the door, five and still alive....

daverkb's avatar

It use to be that one only went to the doctor when one was very, very sick, or else broke a bone, needed stitches or something like that. And pneumonia? Healthy people as a near certain rule don't get pneumonia. And as a kid I heard a doctor say that pneumonia was called 'the gentleman's helper' (gulp! The doctor meant that someone already had a fatal condition and that pneumonia pushed 'em over the edge, so to speak.)

And as an add on, I know of people who took the shot and what did they get? Pneumonia with a capital P. And I have to half wonder. Do they call it 'the pneumonia shot' because it gives you pneumonia?

P.S. Karen, your remark that pneumonia may be just a catch all word is very interesting, and so is your conclusion.

Karen Bandy's avatar

Dave, my 93 year old dad just died from pneumonia. I had never heard the term ‘gentleman’s helper’ till just now but it totally fits. He had mild dementia and afib and congestive heart failure, all fairly new diagnosis’s. He really only suffered heavily for about three months.

Went into the hospital Nov 12th, sounded pretty good Friday night and by the time I got up there Saturday he had gone way downhill and said he was ready to go. We removed the oxygen and antibiotics Monday at 4p and he was gone by 10p. We had to wait until my brother got there.

So many things wrong with his care over the last 2 years, stupid PC doc but that’s for another day.

daverkb's avatar

It's no picnic at end. And it is the wheel of life, of birth and death. But the wheel inexorably turns, like it or not. My wife just lost her eldest sister. And even though this is not my birth family, it still stings. And deaths leave a permanent hole in the fabric of our lives. I hardly believe it, that sister Jane is gone. And so, my condolences.

I often think of this myself because I am older, now being 76. And wow, how did that happen? And all so fast! But at least your Dad grew up and lived a good part of his life in a country which made sense, at least in daily life. This was truly a blessing. And I often think that I really want to be long gone before the country enters into a time of tears and wailing. And so there's that. And also the counting of blessings.

I agree. The medical profession is a disaster. The doctors appear to be, especially after 'covid' perpetrated evil, more high tech witch doctors than anything else. If one wants health and sanity, one truly must live a life in a world apart. And that is where things have come to be.

Thanks for taking the time. And with my best to you all.

Karen Bandy's avatar

You too, thank you for taking the time. Sorry about your SIL.

Actually dad read Epoch and watched Fox, mom still watches Jesse at 5 every night, but he worried that us kids (69-72) were inheriting a horrible world. He fretted about it.

daverkb's avatar

I can totally relate. And I know your dad saw the world turning to worse than crap before his eyes. It had to hurt sorely. We all had free movement one upon a time, and no showing who we are, not showing of paper please. The government was once out of our lives and businesses. And the Commies came in by a slow creeping crawl ... slick little serpents they are. They slowly and with craft turned Rights of Liberty extra state into state owned civil rights. And most people still to this day don't know the difference as I know to be true from personal political experience.

My dad died young at 52 in 1972, probably from wartime chemical exposure. My mother died in January 2000 and she was spared the evil that sprang out of the 911 jack-in-the-box. And maybe this was a blessing, but only God knows.

Thanks. I am like you dad. I see what is coming. It is not good. Maybe better with Trump, but still not good. And still not the Liberty of our fathers and grandfathers. They switched law system basis on us. And people don't know. And therefore, people do not know where to place their insistences. Instead, people argue differences in outcomes instead of differences in basis.

Take good care, and the best to you. When I hear of someone like your dad, I feel less alone.

Lori's avatar

Yes to all above Dave. By all means Yes.

Lori's avatar

Oh Karen, I am so sorry to hear about your dearest father. I don't trust the hospitals at all to tend to people in their later years as I see them neglecting them, withholding other modalities like nebs with antibiotics in the mist, ozone therapy, MMS or dysthanizing them bc they think oh they lived a long life, now time to go. And all this before the holidays. What an ache in your heart. He and your mom were the 2 people you have known the longest on the earth. Our lives are not the same without them. I pray you receive comfort and some modicum of peace during the first holiday season without him.

Leo's avatar

I've seen it: hospitals triage the elderly.

SB's avatar

Yea I’d like the stats on pneumonia deaths. Is it like Covid and 90% of deaths are people over 80 with comorbidities?

Patti's avatar

As hard as it is to lose a parent he sounds like he decided and went peacefully. I hope you give yourself grace as it’s always hard. I’m sorry for your loss and hurting heart

Karen Bandy's avatar

Thank you Patti. It’s been hard, especially since my mother is a piece of work, but I know in my heart it’s what he wanted. He was a good man, and funny too! ❤️

Patti's avatar

Big hugs! I’m sure he was. Give yourself grace and kindness. Takes time to grieve

Peace's avatar

Karen - I'm so sorry to hear about your dad. I appreciate your sharing the term "gentleman's helper" - this is the story of my dad's passing and I'd never heard that term. He was totally paralyzed for 6 months from a stroke, except for the use of his index finger. He developed pneumonia and was able to signal that he was ready to join Jesus in heaven. It was so difficult, but such a blessing for him.

Karen Bandy's avatar

I’m so sorry your dad had to suffer through a stroke for six months. That must have been so painful for your family. 🥲 Thank you for writing. ❤️

Karen Bandy's avatar

We have to give credit to daverkb, he shared it.

Judith Cohen's avatar

I have a colleague who took it a few months ago in his 50’s and he collapsed when he got home and had terrible vertigo for months

Starsky's avatar

My mother went to the Air Force base to get the pneumonia vaccine (this was 8-10 years ago). She refused any other vaccines because they are made in egg serum and she is allergic to egg whites. (Apparently the P was not manufactured with eggs.) Within hours, she was having an autoimmune reaction. She pulls out the paperwork and learns that the guy gave her a Flu shot instead of P shot! And then a couple of weeks later, in addition to dealing with the psoriasis flare up, she got the flu! Now she won’t take any shots.

Jeannie Harshbarger's avatar

I took it many years ago when I had a lot of issues. Now I'm totally against all vax. I was sick in bed for 3 days afterwards!

ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I, dutifully, took it perhaps about 10 years ago. Actually fell sick afterward, had a fever (I don't get fevers unless with flu--exceptionally rare), and some other unfortunate results which I no longer recall--when Dr. urged a 2nd shot, again, perhaps 5 years ago, said "NO!" Turned 75 in July.

Karen Bandy's avatar

They especially go after Medicare patients.

cat's avatar

The pneumonia jab is discussed in the Turtles book. It is another "turtle" vaccine...

SaltSweet's avatar

So true! Show up to vote in 2026!

Boze's avatar

Show up AND...Get Out the Vote!!

cat's avatar
Dec 6Edited

What makes a 2-month-old baby more vulnerable to Hep B than a newborn? Shifting the vaccine two months doesn't seem that much of a victory to me. 🤔

Edited to add (after the comments below): I was wrong about the shifting, in that this is only for those who want the vaccine for the baby -- Malone explains this well: https://www.malone.news/p/kennedy-unchained

ViaVeritasVita's avatar

A "victory", in that you would no longer be in the hospital (assuming you had a hospital birth) at a time of great emotional weakness, but back at home. Follow-on thought: just as there is now an apparent groundswell of encouragement for the traditional trades, may there be also for midwifery. I was blessed to have nurse-midwives assist me in the births of all of my children---1978-87.

NAB's avatar

Agreed. There is absolutely NO REASON to give these shots to infants or young kids.

J Boss's avatar

I think if this keeps up, RFK Jr. may need a Nobel prize in health and medicine.... well, assuming the Nobel people actually want to reward greatness that fits the name of the prize, not the Communist inverse of the name.

Truth Seeker's avatar

Progress and credit where its due. However does not change the salient facts.

None are safe, none are effective. The Dems must be outed for the grifting criminals they

have always been. Midterms are critical.

Texas has paper ballots, no more machines. We must push and push hard to outlaw any and all election machines.

Maduro has capitulated.

Smartmatic, Sequoia, and Dominion and the common software is exactly how election theft has occurred for at least 20 years.

There are a few reasons Venezuela is surrounded by the US military.

Audit_EDIT_v1's avatar

MaHa voters will. Believe that. People are tired of being told that others know what’s best for them, their children and loved ones. Check mate for midterms. IMHO

Patti's avatar

Get armed before going to the doctor. I share this book with any expecting mothers.

I think it’s easy to read and understand. There maybe better books or a newer version but it’s a start

https://a.co/d/1n0j2v4

Beth M's avatar

Casting fake votes in fake elections will not get us anywhere. There is no such thing as "voting harder" in a fake election. We should all be refusing to play their dirty games at this point.

Richard Whitney's avatar

I refused to vote in the 2024 election because I thought they would steal it again.

But today I see the difference that Trump makes, compared to what Harris would have done.

I am very happy that he won.

Mrs. RW

Janine's avatar

Yuri! The elections are rigged, how can you not know that?!

We need reforms as significant as these, to be rolled out for elections before we can consider our progress permanent.

Alex's avatar

If vaccine makers ever lose their legal immunity, that might be the final tectonic shift that snaps the last remaining synapse in the liberal hive mind. The few who still have two brain cells politely nodding at each other may never regroup.

Annie's avatar

Death by 1,000 cuts. Why tackle the immunity for big harma when you can hit big Harma in the pocketbook by removing the childhood vaxx schedule? Then go after the immunity law. MAHA is moving the conversation and opinion in the right direction. Though I yearn for the day hotez et al get all that's coming to them.

Cheryl Schroeder's avatar

I’m with you on that. When will those “promoters” ever get their due? As a believer, they will answer to God, but how appropriate it would be for public shaming for those publicity whores? I was called an anti-vaxer because I didn’t take the Covid shot by an older liberal lady at church, yes church! She was adamant that children didn’t get 70+ vaccines- how could I say such a thing! We are dealing with the uninformed masses who only listen to mainstream media and there are many.

Annie's avatar
Dec 6Edited

Yeah. I had my share of clueless and hateful people directing comments my way. Now I will give it back.

Leo's avatar

Annie, people harden against hate. Instead, "kill them" with kindness. That befuddles them which lets the truth slip right on in.

SJacob1957's avatar

My niece recently had a baby. My sister would not let me see the baby because I am not vaccinated against anything. Her words: “ We aren’t anti-vaxers”. Some people are still pharma sheep! 🐑

KATHERINE JERNIGAN's avatar

Sorry that happened to you

Cheryl Schroeder's avatar

That sounds about right. I’m beginning to believe that the hyper vaccinated have a brain bug that makes them off balance in their thinking? Wash your hands of them and hold your head high. It’s heartbreaking for sure, but we are the better for it.

Patti's avatar

Ya I never will understand the anti vaxxer because you refused a new shot with no research. No data. A disease that was not a death sentence? 🤣 so many of my healthcare friends lost their jobs because of this shot and they happily stood in line for all the other ones including the flu shot yearly. Many wish they had stood with me with the flu shot years earlier. Great nurses now not practicing. Wanna know why hospitals suck? The advocates left. The strong nurses left. The ones who would question left. Sure there are few but the balance is not there. What’s left are the cowardly weak masses that just do as they are told.

Cheryl Schroeder's avatar

I just pray I don’t need hospitalization for anything. I know nurses who are saddened because they had to take the shot to work. God bless them as they didn’t want it.

LogicFirst's avatar

That’s when you share this article showing all the official changes over the years.

https://circleofmamas.com/health-news/the-vaccine-schedule-through-the-years/

Lori's avatar

That proves how ignorant liberals are and what a Christian hypocrite she is. Send her to the temple of Baal.

Cousin Clem's avatar

Can we still tar and feather people? Then run them out of town on a rail. Do it all.

Willing Spirit's avatar

They’re not easily intimidated. Rule of law is meaningless to this Satanic army.

Abiding Dude's avatar

Removing the childhood vax schedule would hurt Big Pharma a little...

from AI: "Vaccines represent a small portion of pharmaceutical companies' overall revenue, with only about $1 of every $12 in pharmaceutical revenue coming from vaccines as of 2022."... Childhood vax, far less.

Retroactively removing immunity for all vaccines would cause MASSIVE losses in many Big Pharma companies... Moderna, IMO, would go under... the entire complex would be badly damaged.

Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Same deal with veterinarians. They make a butt ton of money pushing unnecessary magic shots.

Abiding Dude's avatar

Ah... I have no pets, planning on a cat soon... if I can find a great one...

But pals have told me the Vets are charging unbelievable prices... seems all Docs are into the BIG GRIFT!!

Sarah Lancaster's avatar

I see that stat—not arguing with it—but I suspect that there is something deeper at play with childhood vaccines. They create lifelong customers.

My mom, who used to be a questioner of pretty much every narrative has always defended (polio) vaccines as saving her generation. She had my brother and I at home in a time when fathers were chaining themselves to hospital gurneys just to see their children’s births and were then cut free and jailed… but she lined up at the ped’s office to get us both jabbed. My brother is autistic.

When my husband and I slowly became educated with our own kids, each one getting fewer shots, she lost her marbles. If vaccines can contribute in any way to autism, then she saw my brother’s condition as her fault. Now she was willing to trust vaccines as a good to protect her own sense of self, which I kind of understand.

After a lifetime of railing against Western medicine, she lined up for her Covid shot because she credits the polio shot with saving millions of lives.

All that is to say, I think childhood vaccines have a much greater impact than their actual profit margin, because they open the door for people to trust the medical establishment as a whole.

Abiding Dude's avatar

Your story is so sad... but common, yes?

I think you do have a point... but IMO, it is that the childhood vaccines might make good Big Pharma customers through life... as the kids will always have some moderate to serious health issues that Big Pharma can continue to profit from... all the way to adulthood and death.

Similar to Oncology... they rarely cure you, but might get you into remission again and again, to keep you alive and the cash flowing...

My neighbor finally died... she was in and out of remission 7 times... the cancer didn't get her, but the endless chemo destroyed her heart... the Docs must have made a bundle while she suffered...

Lori's avatar

me too Annie. Want to see Hotez and his ilk punished to the nth degree. Hand them over to jab injured parents. That will take care of all of them.

Dave Slough's avatar

Agree the illegal immunity clause needs scrapped. It’s the only thing holding the vax house of cards together

shayne's avatar

That's likely the only thing that will stop them, Alex.

Michelle.'s avatar

We should go out for the advertising first. This is why they control the media.

Alex's avatar

I think that is in the plan.

Rechtorious Riddlescue's avatar

We should be hectoring Congress for this nonstop.

Alex's avatar

We should. Every voter who understands the direction RFK is going with this huge task should be hammering their congressmen with support for these long overdue changes.

J Boss's avatar

This is the key. And it might even unravel the entire, poisonous environment created by all the rest of the 3-letter agency protection rackets. Dare we hope for no mandatory vaccines AND no poisonous food?

Abiding Dude's avatar

That immunity was gained in such a grossly corrupt way... it should be easy to overturn... ditto the Covid death-jab "EUA".

So why has this not been done or even started???

HINT: Corruption and Big Pharma influence.

Hard to do when Trump is groping Pfizer Bourla in the Oval... no?

The doctor is out's avatar

They do not have legal immunity. Bad faith material changes to definitions, not meeting federal information quality standards, etc etc. They do not have legal immunity.

Alex's avatar

You're right, vaccine manufacturers don’t have blanket legal immunity, but under laws like the PREP Act and the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act, they are largely shielded from civil lawsuits related to vaccine injuries. While claims of willful misconduct can technically be brought, the legal threshold is so high that meaningful accountability is rare. Instead, injured individuals must go through limited government-run programs like VICP or CICP, which offer narrow remedies and minimal transparency. So while legal immunity isn’t absolute, in practice, manufacturers are insulated from the lawsuits that matter most to the public.

The doctor is out's avatar

They do not have immunity under PREP or NCVIA. Their claims, definitions, and processes are legally incoherent and have no weight and no ability to bind products to laws. While some have said "this is a vaccine" or "I have declared...", all those statements are plainly false. The predicates for PREP were not met, the PREP Declaration legally never existed and never took effect. There is no immunity for covid shot manufacturers and there never was.

PapayaSF's avatar

Let’s do that as part of tort reform. The absurd awards ($50 million or more for a life) are distorting the system. Adding some reasonable caps to soften the pain might help it happen.

Alex's avatar

I’m not a supporter of capping injury awards. I will admit my bias upfront, so take this as a personal perspective rather than a detached policy brief.

These cases are not impulse decisions. They take years of discovery, depositions, expert testimony, and in many cases a full trial. Anyone who has ever gone up against an insurance company knows there is nothing knee jerk about the process.

I have lived this. My son just turned four and has severe cerebral palsy caused by medical malpractice. We have been in litigation for three years already, and we still have no idea whether he will ever receive compensation for the permanent harm he suffered. We will likely be in this for another several years.

How do you assign a price to a life that will be far more limited than that of other children? My son will never speak, eat on his own, or walk. He will rely on a wheelchair, a feeding tube, and diapers for the rest of his life. Some families receive a million or two, some receive twenty million. It depends entirely on the facts of the case and the judgment of a jury.

I do not see how imposing limits here would correct the behavior that worries us about vaccine manufacturers. They are not the ones who pay the bulk of these awards. Their insurers do.

PapayaSF's avatar

The system is screwed up, no doubt. They’re inefficient and fluctuate between different types of unfairness. More standardization and common sense in the awards will reduce costs and increase fairness. Instead of an expensive legal battle/roll of the dice and getting one million or getting 20 million, fix it at 10 million.

Unwoke in Idaho's avatar

Having had shingles twice, then getting the two stage shingles shot and then getting shingles worse than ever a third time, I would recommend NO ONE ever get the shingles vaccine.

If you do get shingles, bomb it quickly with valcyclovir and it goes away lickety split.

Willing Spirit's avatar

You know, at age 75, I have to look up these fancy medical terms like Guillain-Barre Syndrome. There was very minimal interaction with medical ‘practitioners’ in my childhood. My first doctor’s visit was to get a physical for college. Other than the county health department subjecting me to this or that at school, my mother took care of any ailments. She used aspirin, Vick’s vapor rub, Pepto Bismol…

And as an adult, I’ve had minimal medical interactions and I treated my children’s issues at home.

I truly believe the medical establishment has created fancy conditions that require fancy names and I swear I know people who think it’s just special to have those conditions.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Flu shots can also cause Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS).

GBS is an autoimmune disease that can cause partial or complete paralysis.

Complete paralysis like you end up in a nursing home.

I believe most cases are caused by vaccines but may also be caused by developing a virus.

KC & the Sunshine's avatar

Yes.

That’s a 60 Minutes from years ago—back when it was REAL investigative reporting, and the swine flu vaccine made a teacher get GBS. It’s striking.

Donna in MO's avatar

I was getting ready to get that shot 10 years ago as I was turning 50 and thus the insurance would pay for it, but my husband's uncle ended up in the ER with seizures and tremors after his shingles shot so I decided to hold off. At the time, I was a vaccine skeptic, my mom had shingles about 5 years earlier and it was a miserable thing, so was thinking the shot might be a good idea. Of course, 2020 & The Real Anthony Fauci made me a full on anti-vaxxer and glad I held off. Hubby is 2 years older than me and he did get it when he turned 50 and so far has not had shingles or side effects, but I'm not taking any chances.

KC & the Sunshine's avatar

Hubs got the shingles shot the promptly developed a miserable case of shingles.

He’s on the fence RN aboit getting his 5th covid booster and flu shot.

JAFO— I say, Jab Around and Find Out.

neener's avatar

Unfortunately he is constantly shedding on you. Hope he is well "life" insured .

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Lots of warnings about getting the covid shot and the flu shot at the same time. Could possibly cause a stroke in older folks.

Unapologetically Me's avatar

Thank goodness for the "Fauci Effect" and RFK Jr's The Real Anthony Fauci.

KC & the Sunshine's avatar

Great book! I read it 2x, cover to cover. SHOCKING.

Lori's avatar

death or shingles? will take the shingles and live.

KC & the Sunshine's avatar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv6LGAoFewo What GBS can look like— from an old 60 Minutes episode.

Donna in MO's avatar

Yes, this was making the rounds on social media around the time of the covid shot rollout and I shared frequently. Amazing on so many levels: 60 Minutes doing actual journalism. the parallels between the messaging then and now, and the effort to gaslight the victims just like today.

KC & the Sunshine's avatar

I found 4 more videos— all HAUNTING and heartbreaking last night. Let me see if I texted

them to my files.

wily_coyote-genius's avatar

So sorry you experience(ed) that. As a health care professional, I've seen more shingles since those shots were rolled out. The end point of the original study, was that fewer people experienced fewer post herpetic neuralgia, a very painful nerve problem where the shingles had affected. Personally, I'm sure the numbers were fudged in the original study conclusions.

Beckadee's avatar

Isn't DMSO supposed to help with the nerve issue?

Scott's avatar

I bet. The manufacturer and EVERY incentive to twist the numbers.

Patti F's avatar

I got the shingles vaccine in 2020 and i regretted it almost immediately. I was sick as a dog for 2 days immediately following it (it started the night I came home from getting it). I've since had shingles once and I honestly don't believe for a second I would have had them had I not gotten the stupid shot. Thankfully I always have valcyclovir in my house because I get cold sores and that's the only thing that truly makes cold sores go away quickly (Denavir helps dry it up too - I take both when I get one).

Annie's avatar

Try l-lysine and vitamin C. Maybe homeopathic medicine too.

Unapologetically Me's avatar

I do the l-lysine. Have experienced cold sores since childhood. As an adult "the tingling" begins when very stressed or am over exposed to the sun.

Haven't had one in years now. L-lysine is the GOAT.

Claire L May's avatar

Hi UM, I tried the lysine and it didn’t help me, either. Makes me wonder if there are different strains of the bugs that cause the cold sores and shingles, some susceptible to lysine, others not. If lysine worked for me that would be easier in the long run! Ao happy it works so well for you!

Claire L May's avatar

Tried to say So happy it works for you, sorry!

Unapologetically Me's avatar

Hi Claire. Sad it doesn't work for you. 😥

By the way: Did you know you can tap the 3 dots to the right of your comment. Click "edit", fix it, then hit post again?

Some say they don't see the 3 dots but that tells me they're on the Substack app.

I just click on Jeff's notifications. No app.

Anyway: Always works for me. Give it a go!

(I usually need to "fix" my comments. Blind as a bat. One finger (right index) typist on a small qwerty phone keyboard and hit "post" or "reply" without noticing spelling errors.)

Anyway! Glad you have an antiviral which works tickety boo too. Colloidal Silver is one remedy which is rarely discussed by anyone on Substack.

A Midwestern Doctor, Dr. Yoho. Etc.

Hope someone takes an interest in that remedy too.

KC & the Sunshine's avatar

My mom had a friend who was very susceptible to a few things that gave her horrible cold sores. She took Lysine all the time, and double dosed when she had a flare up. I remember her saying it couldnt be a cheap brand. It had to be quality.

Patti F's avatar

I've tried it and it doesn't work as well for me.

Claire L May's avatar

Hi Patti, I have gotten shingles on the inside of my right arm several times, and I am prone to cold sores, too. While I have taken the Valcyclovir before and it was ok, what stops it in its tracks for me now is Colloidal Silver water, 10ppm strength. As soon as I get the tingles on my lip, or the hypersenitivity on my arm with its pain, I dab on some of the sliver water. Sometimes it is as often as every couple of hours to start! But it knocks the pain down almost immediately. And then with EVERY throb or stab of pain I know it is still trying to break out, so I keep applying the silver water until the pains stop coming. After that, I keep reapplying it a few times a day to be sure. I haven’t had any breakouts in a couple of years now. I actually bought one of the Colloidal Silver machines about 10 years ago, and make a quart as needed for my nasal spray, wound treatment, sanitizer, etc. Maybe try buying a bottle at the health food store or online to see if it helps you. It has been a God-send for me! God bless you!

Peace's avatar

Drink the colloidal silver as well!

Unapologetically Me's avatar

Colloidal silver eh? Good to know. I brew it myself and test the ppm regularly.

Lori's avatar

Which brand do you recommend Claire?

Claire L May's avatar

Lori, for the bottles of Colloidal Silver from the health food stores I used Sovereign Silver. I bought that before I bought my machine.

I do NOT drink it because it will kill the good as well as the bad bacteria in your gut. I already struggle with IBS and chronic gut dysbiosis, and take probiotics daily. I did try taking a 1/2 teaspoon by mouth daily for a few weeks early on. But it didn’t help with my chronic colds and other health problems. And so when I learned about it possibly killing even the GOOD bacteria, I stopped taking it internally. I hope this helps. My machine is by the Silver Edge company out of AZ, at least it was from there at the time. Super simple to operate.

Patti F's avatar

That's interesting. Thank you. I will definitely look into it!

Karmy's avatar

Lemon balm, the herb, works great against cold sores. You can make your own tincture from your plants.

Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Red Light and Near Infrared Light (NIR) therapy.

Knowledge Base:

https://platinumtherapylights.com/blogs/news

Willing Spirit's avatar

Ah…light therapy. One of the suggestions President Trump made in the daily health briefings at the beginning of the Covid mass hysteria. This was when he was trying to persuade the public to calm down and think of rational solutions. He really tried to steer the country away from vaccines.

We all know how that turned out. The media said he was insane.

Richard Whitney's avatar

Cedars Sinai had an InfoAd on YouTube at the time that Trump suggested UV light. The ad showed how they were using UV light in ET tubes to treat covid.

Once people started sharing that link, the views went up exponentially.

So of course YT took it down.

They couldn't have the "Trump said to drink bleach" propaganda checked in any way.

There are still people to this day who bring up that line, no matter that it was a total invented lie

Mrs. RW

Willing Spirit's avatar

They hold on to every lie they’ve ever told.

Irunthis1's avatar

Get your vitamin d levels above 60. Once there any herpes virus breakouts should be in check.

SD Scott's avatar

Forest Leaf vitamin D is readily absorbed.

Unapologetically Me's avatar

Good to know.

Do you take the D3 with K2 or the stand alone?

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I've read that it is more effective to take both together.

Irunthis1's avatar

I just take natures made d3 10,000 iu daily. Once I was consistently over 60 all problems with cold sores disappeared. No more canker sores or cracks in corner of my mouth either. I thought it was a vitamin c deficiency but it was d the whole time. It really is a critical nutrient. Also I never get sick with colds, or the vid either.

Unwoke in Idaho's avatar

Also for cold sores try opening a gel tab of vitamin E and smearing it on the sore a few times.

Patti F's avatar

I've heard this but haven't tried it. I'll have to get some vitamin E and give it a shot. Hopefully I wont have to test the process for a long time! :)

Unwoke in Idaho's avatar

I find it works well enough that I don’t have to take the valcyclovir. Catch it early. And reapply as necessary to keep it on.

Patti F's avatar

I take the valcylovir as soon as I feel that tell-tale tingle. I'll try some Vitamin E next time. Like I said - I really hope I don't have to try it for a long time. Cold sores suck. :)

LogicFirst's avatar

Patti - you may be interested in a Virulite. We bought the original almost 10 years ago for my mom and it knocks her cold sores out within 2-3 days. Just use it at the first tingle for best results. It has also decreased frequency of attacks

Prior to using the Virulite she also used Valcyclovir. Now just the Virulite and will also cover it with a Mederma patch.

https://www.virulite.global/category/body

Light From Within-Lesley's avatar

I have used homeopathic remedies for over 40 years. For herpes family symptoms, (herpes, shingles, chicken pox, Epstein-Barr) there is a remarkably effective remedy: Agaricus Muscarius ( I use 30C dosage).

Interestingly, while it is derived homeopathically from a poisonous mushroom, it treats symptoms from snake venoms. 🤔spike protein, anyone…thinking with the homeopathic paradigm, it suggests that sarsCv2 promoting herpes family outbursts makes sense. Something I have noted in my patients.

Homeopathic approaches allow the body to ‘answer’ the symptoms, rather than the action of pharmaceuticals which suppress the symptoms, effectively saving the symptom for later, while denying our brilliant Divine ‘immune system’ of fully learning its response.

Jacquijacq's avatar

We take Lucien for cold sores. Very effective

Delightful Designs's avatar

L-Lysine. Very effective for all viral infections.

Lori's avatar

Also helps cats/kittens with herpes as well.

Patti F's avatar

That doesn't seem to work as well for me, unfortunately.

Joan Hirzel's avatar

What is valcyclovir and where did you get it? My daughter has had some pretty bad cold sores in the past.

Patti F's avatar

It's a prescription medicine so you'll need to talk to your doctor to get it.

Willing Spirit's avatar

I find Carmex works wonders with cold sores. Apply at first symptom. Available over the counter everywhere. A tiny bit applied inside nostrils relieves dryness as well.

Delightful Designs's avatar

And you get shingles because kids have had the chickenpox shot, and that 'immunity' doesn't cover shingles also like natural immunity does.

Delightful Designs's avatar

Incidentally, look up Vitamin B 12 and shingles. Quite often supplementing with B12 in a form your body can assimilate stops recurrent shingles. B12 absorption ability fades as we get older.

Lori's avatar

I use a great b12 sublingual by Solgar. They work great. Brought my levels back into normal range quickly.

Peace's avatar

The kids chickenpox shot has increased shingles also because adults are not constantly exposed to the chickenpox virus. The exposure on a regular basis (what used to happen before the vaccine) allowed for small increases in antibody immunity in the older population which actually cut down on shingles cases.

Delightful Designs's avatar

Thank you! I was busy and wasn't getting my wording right, so I deleted what I tried to write about it. You worded it right :D

Unwoke in Idaho's avatar

I believe I got shingles because I had chicken pox and the herpes virus, which shingles is, stays dormant in the body.

Anne Grinols's avatar

After my only shingles shot, I was immediately very sick. My dr said if he treated me I would get a full-blown case of shingles. We decided to hold off. Result: no shingles but my thyroid was shot. I will take med for the rest of my life. And I won't ever again put poison into my system. And haven't. As a cancer and chemo survivor I should have known better. My husband took the same shot with no ill effects.

Pat Wetzel's avatar

Cancer and three time chemo survivor here. I will no longer trust allopathic medicine for anything. ANYTHING.

Valerie's avatar

Thank you for posting this. Shingles was the one vaxx I was still considering (but have so far refused). I’ve had several clients suffer for years with shingles and it’s nerve pain aftermath, but they were all unhealthy people with chronic inflammation, insulin resistance, etc. I’m glad to know that a healthy person can handle the illness should they get it, which was what I suspected anyway.

Dr Linda's avatar

I am thrilled to hear that you won’t get that shot. It is a scam.

If I awakened it I would use. Jim Huber’s MMS Protocol & DMSO. especially baths

https://www.collegesidekick.com/study-docs/1104586. This is a clean link to the protocols.

Annie's avatar

Agree 💯 Just say no.

KC & the Sunshine's avatar

Yep, between the Black Box Warning for Gullaine Barre Syndrome (think, Polio Lite) and the adjuvants in the shots, it is FAR better to just get wild strain chicken pox if you could ever find a kid with it.

Best to get zero jabs for anything, ever.

MaryAnn's avatar

2015-ish,I developed shingles over my right eyebrow. The NP jumped on it with topical med and referred me to an ophthalmologist to make sure it had not travelled to my eye. Scared the stuff out of me. Anyway, I got the first shingles shot, as recommended. Then here comes the new and improved 2 dose jab… if the first one was worthless then how do they know the second one is any good? Fool me once… That was my last close encounter with a jab.

Patti F's avatar

The one time I had shingles (right after getting shot #2) I also had it over my eyebrow. I didn't even know it was possible to get it there! I didn't call my doctor - I knew what it was immediately. Hopefully there's no damage. It just never occurred to me to call the doctor about it.

Kaycee's avatar

There are many other options for treating shingles, from the functional medicine doctors like A Midwestern Doctor here on Substack - DMSO, Chlorine Dioxide.

Sadly, I got the shingles jab before knowing or thinking doctors were compromised and that they were honest and trustworthy. HAH! I will never get another "vaccination" again - and I have helped my daughter realize that getting her son jabbed with 72 shots is not going to happen in their family.

shayne's avatar

I had chickenpox as a kid. I won't go anywhere near the shingles shot, and I'm a year away from 70

VelvetStitching's avatar

I had chicken pox by age 6 (1960's) and had shingles twice in 20's and 30's and now twice this past year.... Some of us just seem to more susceptible (I am susceptible to cold sores and Vit C (I never take as a supplement) or even in foods can trigger cold sore lesions (think citrus fruits! Very acidy) -

I maintain a very healthy lifestyle - clean diet/exercise /no alcohol /no smoking /no drugs - (so I am not high risk from risky practices).

Still many people have recommended I get the Shingles Vax - I refuse!

I can only imagine what havoc it would wreak on my system! Find natural ways to avoid an outbreak and healing.

BTW - for those with painful shingles lesions - dab them with OTC peroxide, then use roll on arthritis gel (the higher the menthol content the better!)(or even a minty Listerine) - it stops the itching/burning and gives temporary relief.

When lesions start drying - you can soothe by rubbing coconut oil into them as they heal.

Just common sense suggestions.

Claire L May's avatar

Velvet Stitching, I want to tell you that there are non-acidic Vit. C formulas! I take American Health Ester-C, 2,000-4,000 a day depending on what my body is experiencing at the time. I learned about this years ago. I had read Vitamin-C helps oxygenate the blood, and I didn’t think anything if that when I read it, until I had a bad cold and decided to try higher doses of my non-acidic C. It gave me more energy, and I just felt better all around. It seems to help with my airborne allergies, too!

Unapologetically Me's avatar

Jeez! Wish I knew that before buying 300 very expensive 1000 mg gel caps of Ascorbic Acid. (Got tired of filling my own gel caps with powder. Have a hard time swallowing large uncoated pills.)

Next time will buy the Ester C.

Thanks!

Cheryl Stoker's avatar

It seems that getting some vaccines, AFTER getting the virus, tends to not only make it easier to get the virus but also seems people get it worse.

Camille Swanson's avatar

Thank you Unwoke for the warning. I am 67 and have not received the Shingles vax. I’ve gone back and forth in my mind as to whether I should get it or not but something always keeps me from getting it. When I turned 50 I had asked my doctor about getting it; In those days, I still trusted that our government health agencies had our best interests at heart. My doctor at the time told me I was too young and that I didn’t need it until I turned 60. Well by the time I turned 60 my thinking started to evolve and I was no longer eager to get it. Just last night I was at a women’s Christmas event at church and a woman at my table explained that several months ago she had a terrible bout of shingles that got into her brain and left her with a reaction similar to Bell’s palsy. She hadn’t had the shingles vax, so of course I was again wondering if I should get it. I think this is a good example of “informed consent”. Like the Covid vax, if I can still be infected with Covid if I get the vax, why would I get it (I never did thankfully) . Same with shingles, why would I risk getting Guillain-Barr Syndrome for a shingles infection I might never get?

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Would be interesting to know if that woman took the covid jabs. Bell's Palsy has been reported to VAERS as a side effect.

STH's avatar

Zostavax was my last vaccine in 2016. A year later I got shingles! That’s when I realized they do not work. Then I started watching The Highwire in 2017 and became fully awake to the lies. Thank you Del Bigtree!!!

Heather's avatar

If we’d get rid of the chickenpox vaccine, adults would get a natural booster when their kids got Chickenpox and then not need the Shingles vaccine…Shingles used to be rare because of this natural booster but there was no money to be had that way and now we all are much more likely to get Shingles. Law of unintended consequences strikes again

Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

I’ve for 4 grandkids (so far) that will never be vaxed for chicken pox. I’ve called dibs on babysitting them when they get the pox.

All of their parents got the chicken pox shots. I wonder if they’ll hold up under the strain? If not, I hope it at least helps. I’ve heard adult chicken pox are terrible.

Lorita's avatar

And in my experience valcyclovir works. Also I had bad post shingles pain, but my ND gave me B12 shots in the worse areas. Pain all gone!

Patti F's avatar

It's a prescription medicine for shingles and cold sores.

Unwoke in Idaho's avatar

Valcyclovir is the generic.

Cousin Clem's avatar

Lots of not so good side effects. Kidney damage, central nervous system problems, nausea, vomiting....and so on. No one has isolated any virus to date so an anti-viral is doing what, exactly? Anti-virals are just as bad as vaccines in my opinion.

CStone's avatar

It still works. Perhaps not for you, but it has for me.

Claudia Marshall's avatar

It is a prescription cream for the herpes virus. It works!

Patti F's avatar

Oh I've never had it as a cream - just a big giant horse pill.

Jon M.'s avatar

An anti viral medication

Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

I brought up this quote some time ago, but it bears repeating given today's topic. The minds of the masses are easily suggestible, and thus, handily manipulated. Decade after decade of systematic social conditioning has brought us here. Why vaccines are even a thing:

“When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” - Unknown source

AND one of my personal favorites - and reason for existing....at least here on Substack. 😋

“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary.”

― H.L. Mencken

Kaycee's avatar

Or, as the wise philosopher Morrissey has written, "Stop watching the news, because the news contrives to frighten you"

Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

The “Rectangle of Fear, Hate & Misery” comes in many sizes these days. Not only large enough to fill up an entire wall, but small enough to put in your pocket for non-stop distress and general unhappiness on-the-go. It's a win-win for the Establishment Gloom & Doom Patrol.

Bard Joseph's avatar

Thank goodness for testing mothers for hobgoblin diseases.

Merry McIntyre's avatar

Aha!! That is how you got your handle. Clever!

Merry McIntyre's avatar

Good ole Bugs poaches & saves the day! I have 2 poached eggs every day. Does that make me a poacher? I can say Bugs taught me!! Thanks, Eric, I enjoyed the video.

Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

I guess that depends on what you're doing with them. I'm not that bright and a perpetual wise ass, so "have" sends my imagination reeling.

Merry McIntyre's avatar

I’ll let your imagination run wild with this. Have a fun time!!

“Imagination is more important than knowledge.” Albert E.

Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Oh dear God…..left to my own devices…unsupervised no less. Gonna be a long night. 😆

Bubblehead604's avatar

Love Mencken! He has a wealth of great quotes. Here's one of my favorites:

"The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out…without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably, he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable."

Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

I think he was on to something.

Heterodox Introvert's avatar

Your "unknown" attribution sent me to the interwebs. Not that I believe everything I read, but for more context, if true (both authorship and expansion):

"The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims. The most perfect slaves are, therefore, those which blissfully and unawaredly enslave themselves. A truth’s initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. It wasn’t the world being round that agitated people, but that the world wasn’t flat. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic." - Donald James, 1931-2008, television writer, source: https://www.azquotes.com/author/21574-Donald_James --

My pet doozy of a hoax is in contention as the granddaddy of the modern American age: the federal income tax. Hoo wee! --

Thanks for the quotes, particularly the screen aspect you've adopted. Now we know! Much appreciation for your humor and takes on the state things in the asylum. I for one am blessed for your presence. Amen.

Uncle Juan's avatar

Happy Saturday!!! The Lord bless and keep everyone in this group!

shayne's avatar

Cheers, Uncle Juan.

Kathy Boston's avatar

The public needs to know It was the moms of vaccine injured children, that pleaded with Kennedy to look at the toxic heavy metals in vaccines which they suspected were causing their children to be autistic, nonverbal, ADHD etc. (Mercury and aluminum). It happened when he was cleaning up the Hudson river from industry pollutants which included toxic heavy metals. He has the ability to read scientific and medical data from being an environmental lawyer.

Imagine being the mother of a vaccine injured child being told unless their child gets vaccinated repeatedly, they are not allowed to go to public school. Childhood schedule is now up to 72 doses.

Joan Hirzel's avatar

Take away ALL vaccine mandates. For school, work, travel. Etc. All shots should be voluntary. Period!

Based Florida Man's avatar

On a separate topic:

For the first time since 2015, no hurricanes made landfall in the United States or entered the Gulf.

Yeah, Florida banned weather manipulation this year. What a coincidence....

VelvetStitching's avatar

Wish someone WOULD BAN ALL spraying everywhere! I hate the smeary haze that infiltrates our beautiful skies when those plans unload their aerosols all over!

Lori's avatar

I saw orange clouds the other day from chemtrails. It was like out of a sci-fi flick. Can't imagine what the chemicals are to make the clouds turn orange.

Carol M.'s avatar

Did you see the Shawn Farash video on this deal President Trump made with Mother Nature?🤣✊🏼🇺🇸

JudyC's avatar

It was hilarious!

Carol M.'s avatar

He is on X and Truth Social🤓

Pat Wetzel's avatar

Yes. I was being lazy and hoping for a direct link

Joan Hirzel's avatar

Me too. Lol. I dont have account on X or Truth Social 🤪

Johnny-O's avatar

Has the spraying actually stopped? My understanding is that the law in TN that was passed has various issues/loopholes and the spraying continues.

Yvonne's avatar

For a short while the spraying stopped in TN. Now it's back as bad as ever.

Johnny-O's avatar

Yeah, we had a bit of a cessation but has been ramped back up again, unfortunately (N AZ).

Politico Phil's avatar

It's still on-going here in the FL Panhandle up to and including this week..

SYFY's avatar
Dec 6Edited

It stopped during the first week of the fed gov't shutdown, then someone donated funds and it started back up. It's not as bad here in Central FL as it was though, but it definitely is still going on. I'd say it's probably down to 25-50% of what it was, depending on the day.

Johnny-O's avatar

I assume you are suspecting someone donated funds, or did you hear this somewhere?

happyinfl's avatar

I saw it the other day over Daytona Beach. But the skies were beautifully clear during the shutdown.

Starsky's avatar

It had stopped in AZ during the shutdown, then around day 36-37 it started back up. It’s not as heavy as it was previously, and they seem to wait until there is real cloud cover and then spray above and between it.

Johnny-O's avatar

That pretty much aligns with what I am seeing too. It was like 5+ days/week for quite a while previously.

mm's avatar

But we are still seeing the geoengineering trails in the sky all over Florida daily. It is worse than ever!

Lori's avatar

It is MM. Saw orange clouds the other day, it was unnerving to see. Called the chemtrail hotline to report.

Carlos's avatar

We all are Thankful to GOD.

Desantis has made so many great decisions for Floridians

By the way anyone knows of a COVID Doctor in South Florida, my neighbor young 34 years old has a been battling with the side effects of the jab. He needs help.

Very appreciated any recommendations.

Cabogirl's avatar

Yes nothing here in Cabo either. Amazing. No big storms at all. I know they did weather manipulation here for a few years .. not that long ago actually.

Beckadee's avatar

Since 2015? Not true. True, we didn't have any in the Gulf of American or hurricane [TS Chantal did hit SC]. You just have to go back to 2024. Remember Helene?? Helene was the 5th hurricane and 2nd major hurricane of 2024 season.

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

✝️✝️✝️

Be exalted, O LORD, in Your strength;

We will sing and praise Your power.

— Psalm 21:13 NAS95

✝️✝️✝️

Sandra Ganey's avatar

When my baby was born (1999), they just gave her the heb b shot without asking me or even telling me - I found out later. This started my vax research journey. So this news makes me FEEL something inside - a mix of jubilation and also deep sadness over all the babies and the lies.

Donna Mott's avatar

My daughter wanted to hold off on giving her twins all those shots all at once and her pediatrician told her if she didn’t like the vaccine schedule she could find another pediatrician. She left in tears. So much for parent’s rights.

Anne Grinols's avatar

My daughter in Ohio had twins. When one had a serious reaction to scheduled shot, she declined further shots. They said she had to leave the practice. She did. Found another. Then had to leave that one. Who has bought these practices off?!!!

Scott's avatar

The vax schedule can be a significant revenue stream for pediatricians. A Grok query reveals a practice with 1,000 children (seems pretty big?), the office will take in up to $50k/year.

shayne's avatar

For the love of money is the root of all evil.

Tiny basket of deplorable's avatar

Anne, big pharma and the health insurance companies with bonuses for doctors. Sick

Pat Wetzel's avatar

Big money from Big Pharma

Dana Hope's avatar

The hospital system which is probably owned by a private equity firm. I hope your daughter found a sane pediatric provider.

WendeAnne's avatar

Insurance companies/ vaccine uptake and compliance. Pediatrics is the tilapia of medical practice. I worked for GSK ( vaccines) I know first hand how this BS works.

Lori's avatar

even more reason not to jab and homeschool. you can't be a doc who loves children acting like that. it is a dead giveaway. they are bought and paid for. run like hell.

RunningLogic's avatar

God forbid these doctors not get their Pharma bonuses for compliant patients 🙄🙄🙄

Beckadee's avatar

yep- the ex-wife and current one needs new shoes and a mercedes.

Peace's avatar

Blue Cross Blue shield bought these pediatricians off. They pay out $400 per child annually if over 65% of their patient population is fully vaccinated. If under 65%, the doc gets zero reward from BCBS. Easy to see why they want to offload any patients that drag down their threshhold of fully vaxxed.

m&m's avatar

My son has 4 month old twins. Has argued with pediatrician about the vaccine schedule also. Will also need a new doctor. He is moving to a red state where at least there are a few who understand...

Jeanne's avatar

I have been essentially off allopathic anything since 2020 ( Covid opened my eyes to the danger of jabs as well as traditional medicines). I have been using homeopathic remedies for a year now and they are amazing! My grandchildren have been given homeopathic remedies along with vitamin C and have done fantastic for any ailment they have encountered. Check homeopathic medicine out and you could be amazed as well! Homeopathy Rising is a great go to sight on Substack! ( Hopefully, it is ok to mention another stack!)

Queenblocker's avatar

My daughter, a PA in ICU medicine, looked for ways to support her non vaccinated children. She found homeopathy. She introduced it to me , a retired anesthesiologist. It is all i use plus VitC and occasionally VitD. She is in her final year of study to become a homeopath, still working ICU.

PamelaZelie's avatar

Just started taking a homeopathic course of study through Joette Calabrese.

Peace's avatar

Don't even bother with a pediatrician. Find a family physician who will treat all ages of the family. It's only pediatricians (not family physicians) who get the $400 annual reward per child if their practice can get to 65% fully vaxxed. Families opting not to vax drag down their numbers which means they won't get the annual reward.

"They have to vaccinate 63% or more of their pediatric patients age birth to 2. Look how many vaccines they pump into them! 24 vaccines!!!! If you are a pediatrician office, and you have 500 kids that turn 2 this year, and all of them have had their “combo 10” of 24 shots, that will earn the pediatrician a cool $200,000. NOW you know why pediatricians do not take unvaccinated kids! They get dinged and make no money off your healthy unvaccinated kiddo. So when a pediatrician chastises you for not vaccinating your kid, they really don’t care about you or your kid, they just want to make sure they bonus for the year."

The 2022 Blue Cross Blue Shield “procedure and vaccine incentive” criteria for bonuses for primary care providers

https://docbrown77.substack.com/p/blue-cross-blue-shield-provider-incentive

The v “payout” schedule for Blue Cross Blue Shield medical providers

https://docbrown77.substack.com/p/the-vaccine-payout-schedule-for-blue

We are nothing more than a line item in the bonus schedule!"

Robird's avatar

FPs are also eligible for bonus payments based on vaccination rates of children in their practice. Who told you otherwise? I have personal knowledge as a medical director of a multi specialty practice group.

shayne's avatar

Bravo to him. There are times when you just have to turn and walk away.

Taiga Rohrer's avatar

Your daughter was doubly blessed, and that is on top of the twins, first to be intelligent and informed enough to say no, second the pharmatrician kicked her to the door. What a blessing! She found out early exactly where their interests lie, and it wasn't with the health of her babies! Those should be tears of happiness for dodging that massive bullet!

Margot Wooster's avatar

Donna, I pray your daughter will find a GOOD doctor! Lord, have mercy!!

Lori's avatar

I would have been elated that the doc revealed him/herself during the visit. I would have told him/her thank you for showing your true colors and would have skedaddled out of the office jubilant fashion.

HHM's avatar

If you don’t jab the babies you don’t need to take them to pediatrician. God made them

With an immune system. Feed them clean food, enough sleep, sunshine and fresh air and stay away from doctors!!! They are not your (or your children’s) friends

shayne's avatar

You have to be really strong to stand up to a doctor, but by golly, it feels great to refuse to bow to these peoples' ideologies.

PamelaZelie's avatar

Find a Family Practitioner and drop the pediatrician.

Peace's avatar

Your daughter is better off seeing a physician who isn't so ignorant as to think vaccines are a good idea for young kids. Family physicians aren't under the same reward system as pediatricians who receive $400 per "scalp" (fully vaccinated patient). But they only get the annual reward if a large percentage of their patient base is fully vaccinated. Thus the need to get rid of patients opting out.

Patti F's avatar

I started questioning vaccines when my daughter was ready to start school and they demanded she get the chicken pox vaccine. It wasn't a deadly disease and was a sickness everyone got and then had immunity. I didn't get why this was being pushed hard but I gave in to it because I didn't know there was such a thing as an exemption form back then and she wasn't allowed in school without it. Then when she was a little older, the HPV vaccine came out. Her pediatrician pushed it hard. It was mind boggling to me that they would push a "vaccine" for a sexually transmitted disease on a small child. It just felt wrong to me. I refused it and stood my ground all through high school for her. Then in 2018, my son got whooping cough, despite being vaccinated for it. That was THREE vaccines that were pointless to me. I started going down a rabbit hole. This past summer I read Turtles All The Way Down and my eyes were completely opened. I strongly recommend that book to anyone who wants to learn about the whole testing process. It's a wakeup call for sure.

John A George's avatar

My sister read TATWD years and years ago and stopped vaccines for her four kids then and there. The youngest benefited by having no vaccines. He's in his 20s now and very healthy. Vaccines are part of pharmaceutical parent training program, a money cash cow for the industry, a giant scam, and of no benefit whatsoever.

Renee Sommers's avatar

I’m glad they published the chart. A lot of people have NO IDEA just how many shots kids get now. A lot of people over 50 think it’s just a couple , like the MMR and polio. They have no clue about HepB, Rotavirus, etc.

Jeff C's avatar

And this in a nutshell is why Boomers (of which I am one just barely) have such a bad reputation. They will loudly opine on something with FORTY year-old information without taking fifteen minutes to check to see if it's still true.

"I had the shots when I was a kid and am fine, now these selfish kids won't get them and it will bring back polio!!" or some such nonsense. Had they spent a few moments looking into it, they would have known that they got around six shots, kids today are supposed to get around 70. The situation is nothing like it was when they grew up. So much of the their pomposity is based on a shocking level of ignorance.

That one meme that shows the baby in 1980 with a couple of shots around it next to the 2022 baby completely surrounded by shots has done more to change the tide that all the scientific studies combined. Whoever put that together deserves a medal.

Renee Sommers's avatar

Me too, you’re probably Generation Jones, 54’-65’. Totally. “What about Polio!!!!” I’ve tried to tell people about Paris Green and DDT and I get the deer in the headlights stare.

LogicFirst's avatar

It’s really people 65+… People in their 50’s were impacted in high school & college with weird “catchup” vaccines when things started getting added in the late 80’s / early 90’s. Also they’ve dealt with their own kids going through the ramped up schedules.

Renee Sommers's avatar

I’m not sure the Well visits were as structured in the 90’s.

LogicFirst's avatar

I was almost in high school & had always been to a family doctor, NOT a pediatrician. My mom, a nurse, wasn’t a fan of the pediatricians.

However my much older siblings thought they were great. My nieces & nephews were definitely on the “Well Child” visit train at that point. Maybe it depended on where you lived?

Renee Sommers's avatar

I moved around a lot, so I’m not sure. We didn’t go to the Drs unless we were bleeding 🩸 and even then it was not a sure thing!

Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

Not that the media had much mind to lose.

Paddy Fievet's avatar

“A wrecking ball of logic and reason smashed through a castle made of lies, deceit, and tissue-paper-thin excuses vomited up by pharma like nesting insect…”

I love C&C! Well said!

Lawdog's avatar

Victory at last. Free at last, free at last, thank God Almighty we are free at last!

Bard Joseph's avatar

Only when pharma has no more legal exemptions to murder.

Cousin Clem's avatar

They removed the jab at birth mandate but still recommend it at 2 months. Not quite free at last.

Cece8085's avatar

Robert Malone posted earlier today on X. The post clarified that the recommendation from the ACIP committee is that a newborn receive the vaccine NO EARLIER than two months. It did NOT endorse a vaccine at two months for every baby.

Peace's avatar

Thanks for the clarification. Still, Hard to believe it is recommended for any child not meeting the threshold (mother tested positive).

kittynana's avatar

My children are 45, 42, and 39. I was a bit concerned about the shot schedule/combinations even back then. Then my (now) 25 year old granddaughter came along and I was horrified by the schedule. Then HER kids came along- still young infants- and I'm sick to my stomach that she has allowed the dr to inject those kids with everything, including the RSV. I'm so grateful for this news although it's too late for them. My 4 year old grandson has NOT had the RSV or the Covid or anything unnecessary because his parents aren't idiots.