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Regarding big pharma capturing the pro-patient charities, Charlie Munger - Buffet's right hand man - said it best: "Show me the incentive and I will show you the outcome."

Rockefeller took over medicine a century ago with the same strategy and immediately slit the throat of a thousand years of medicinal knowledge and wisdom.

Regarding the new media propaganda onslaught to get the poison injections:

Any consideration made about mandating forced medical procedures isn't a discussion.

It's a threat.

We will not submit to this fate. There are destinies worse than death, and the world they want to create - where the big pharma can wield their jackbooted government lackies to inject us with whatever they want whenever they want - is one of them.

If this is the hill I die on, so be it, I will never get these shots. My immunity to their predatory lies has never been more robust.

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Coffee & COVID's very own ConcernedGrammy is featured in a new article on 'Out Here on the Perimeter':

https://tritorch.substack.com/p/apathy-is-the-fire-in-which-we-burn

She has selflessly put herself on the front lines of the thankless political fight for a better future and she, and those of her stature, are the reason why we are not yet completely lost.

I never ask this, but please read, like, and share this one. It is important.

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Let me point out the jab mandate is banned and Surgeon General Ladapo has opined that no one should get the shot yet the shot is still on the market in Florida and is still being pushed in children's arms by foolish parents. There now exists a mountain of indisputable evidence that the jabs are killing people yet the Governor, the AG and the SG have not criminalized the administration of the shot nor have they ordered the confiscation of all vaccine vials in FL for forensic analysis and prosecution. Why not??? Running second or third place for President will not protect the people nor is that doing your job as Governor.

The point is we have not taken the fight to the enemy. All we do is close the barn door after the horse is out, ie, we ban the jabs after the jab is a fait accompli. And by "we", I mean those in power we have elected. Governor DeSantis has not gone on the offensive to defend us. Why not???

Until we take the fight to the enemy, we will not defeat them and will always be fighting a retreat action. The enemy does not care if we are only fighting a battle we already lost while they open a new front we are unprepared for.

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Florida needs to be the state to remove pharma’s liability protections. We need to states to take back their authority and throttle federal government overreach.

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Yes, Florida could be that state -- and if "Rhonda" (as 47Yinzer calls DeSantis) had true discernment and an understanding of how this republic was (originally) supposed to operate (before Lincoln destroyed it), the last thing he'd have on his mind right now is running for capo di capi. He'd be here, leading the nation from here, leading the charge against the bio weapons developers, leading the charge against pharma liability immunity, expanding health freedom here, etc., etc. Instead?

By winning in a landslide and then leaving the state, Rhonda has shown his true colors, his lack of discernment, and unworthiness on multiple levels.

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You give Rhonda too much credit. He knows...

Yes, Lincoln, our promoted best president who really wasn't. Honest Abe was the name he got for being the OPPOSITE. I do not know much since there is so much historical lies, but I know we don't have the truth of history. I can't even watch history shows anymore and the animal ones are entertaining but they push the planet BS in those too.

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What you say is true ... all of it. And I am uplifted and encouraged whenever I see this level of discernment. And so, thanks for your comment.

I've been watching Rhonda and I am thinking that Rhonda is paying to much attention to the false gods of donors and the party elite. Maybe Rhonda ought to read up on 'the house divided cannot stand.'

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Exactly.

No servant can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money.”

Luke 16:13

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That he’s eager to see President Trump convicted, sickens me!

Ron DeSantis is not a good man, just a pretty good deceiver.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/08/desantis-defends-his-action-why-he-hesitated-raise/

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Agreed: Donors and party elite.

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The house needs to fall.

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BINGO (about your Gov. DeSantis)!! When did you all start calling him "Rhonda"--is it because of his high-pitched voice? He sounds effeminate when he gets "excited"--sorry, but that's the "take" I have on Ron/Rhonda!

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Anyone who gets in as president has been bought and paid for anymore. This is the biggest issue with our country right now. Many of our representatives are the same.

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Not Donald Trump. Hence the persecution/prosecution.

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Except he doesn't stand a chance. Not now.

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Well, right. This speaks to his lack of discernment. Someone with any real political sense and his place in the unfolding drama would have known that now was not his time. DeSantis proved many things by doing what he did, including the size of his ego and his disloyalty, IMO, to Florida and to those who voted for him in '22.

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We need real leaders and not reeds which bend in the wind.

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He was a good deceiver. I had so many friends yelling at me that he was on the same side as Trump and would never run against him.

Of course that whole β€˜deception’ operation was being run by the Uniparty professionals, so I wouldn’t give Ron that much credit.

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I agree with you. He should have completed his job. sad

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Legally, I don't think there is anything Gov. DeSantis can do (the jab approval is a function of the federal government). But maybe individuals can look into suing the jab makers for adulterated product or misbranding (safe and effective - not according to the data) or fraud (lying about the aforementioned safety and effectiveness). IANAL so I ask, can they?

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That's right. Drug, vaccine, and now bio weapon approval (Sorry, I'm being fresh.) does happen at the federal level. What Governor DeSantis -- and the FL Legislature -- can do is work to retain the sovereignty of the people of FL against federal overreach, including the federally-mandated used of drugs -- or bio weapons.

DeSantis did, in fact, request a grand jury look into the very subject you cited. If we ever hear anything from it, it's possible they will seek indictments of the very kind you bring up. The burden on the individual to prove 𝒏𝒐𝒕 Safe&Effectiveβ„’ is enormous. Besides, I think that most people had to sign a consent form, yes, before getting injected with this junk?

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Yes, you had to consent to get the jab but the information they give you is so minimal that it's not really consent, IMO.

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Lol. Don’t forget that Trump is the one that made the idiotic and asinine decision to release and promote an experimental vaccine on the world with utter disregard for the possible consequences just so he could bask in the glory of being the father of Operation Warp Speed. Trump is responsible for the deaths and permanent injuries from the vaxx which should be still in the trial phase.

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No, he isn't. Fauci, Birx, Pence---who was overseeing the response---all lied to Trump, by Birx's own admission. One- issue voters are as dangerous as any virus.

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I agree that Trump acted ridiculously and irresponsibly over what was obviously a fraud, including the junk in the needles and its "marketing campaign," "Operation Warp Speed." How painfully stupid was that?

That said, it is the people who rolled up their sleeves to have a concoction injected into their arms -- well before the moronic scumbag Biden "mandated" it -- who are responsible for the ensuing outcomes. Not Trump. How does someone allow this to be done to themselves when they have no freakin' idea what is in that syringe? How does a person excitedly line up for injectable crap lacking long-term safety data? When this was obvious -- by definition! Trump has absolutely no responsibility for that 𝒂𝒕 𝒂𝒍𝒍.

My take is that none of this should have happened from the very beginning. And none of it would have happened with an informed and courageous people. And 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 has nothing to do with Trump...

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Well said! Everyone needs to take responsibility for their choices instead of handing off decisions to β€œexperts.” Some people clearly don’t even want that responsibility πŸ˜• Then they can always blame someone else πŸ˜• (not saying this is true of everyone who chose to follow the experts but for some it certainly is!).

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The DeathVax shouldn't be in any phase. It should be permanently outlawed.

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🎯🎯🎯

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That landslide was against one of the most well known and unpopular politicians in the state of Florida! I’ll say it again, a dead man could have beat Charlie Crist! Some f***ing landslide!

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I hear you, WS, but in strictly political terms, it was a "landslide" and DeSantis tossed it away.

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I agree that DeSantis would be more effect playing his role as governor, and not chasing after the presidency.

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We have an AG in the state of MO. who is on fire! I’m going to send him an email suggesting he looks into what we need to do to remove pharma’s liability protections! His name is AG Andrew Bailey and he’s making a difference!

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Thank you for sharing. I may write him.

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Rick Brattin, our state senator is also doing a great job!

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When pharma profits are pilfered or penaluzed, pharma will pull back.

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Exactly. Everything else is just theater.

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The candidacy of DeSantis is the stand-in for pandemic freedom for the narrative writers. As the most vocal pro-freedom, anti-mandate politician in the nation - including Trump, sadly - to have him offered up to GOP voters and then lose it allows the narrative writers to claim his pro-freedom, anti-mandate approach to the pandemic was unpopular and rejected by even GOP voters in the primary, a "loser strategy." Just like they claim Dobbs overturning Roe v. Wade has been unpopular and a loser strategy for R's.

It's narrative. It's always narrative to these people. DeSantis is the sacrificial lamb offered up by the GOPe Rino's to justify the DeWine, Hogan R approach to pandemic governance. Authoritarianism-lite. They'll ignore the fact that no R candidate is displacing Trump atop the ballot no matter what their positions are. The only way he doesn't win is if he's kept off with lawfare. But, narrative. Has to be "GOP voters reject selfish, stupid freedom, DeathSantis."

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Exactly Phil! And here in Texas where AG Paxton, who has filed numerous law suits against potato-in-chief, is being impeached! Probably the most courageous AG in the country and they have a massive witch hunt out for him. Meanwhile crickets coming from Abbott, Perry et al.

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Why not? Because your governor desires more than anything else to join the rich men north of Richmond. He's gotten the FL state legislature to assist him, by blocking access to governor's office visitor logs, and by overriding a regulation that prohibited a sitting governor from running for office outside the state. Rhonda's motives are pretty darn obvious, friend.

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Right. You have to ask the right question to get a real answer. So I keep asking the question. Ron's performance in the debate said it all. He did nothing in the debate that was proactive and energized. He was a milk-toast as the rest of them. That says it all for me. He could have used the platform to come out swinging and controversial and attacked that which needs attacking. Instead, he took the line in the RINO playbook.

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The debate was disappointing. Ron has to watch himself because politics is a dangerous game, and if you do not play by the unwritten rules, you lose. If a candidate is worthy, they get blackmailed anyway, so how can anyone honorable win? I do not think it is possible without divine intervention.

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He had a platform to vigorously connect with the real Americans and he didn't try. The way he is acting, I don't expect him to throw his weight behind Trump when Trump wins the nomination. This is his time to make a difference. He better take it regardless of his own political fortunes. This is what the Founding Fathers had to do and did it.

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Right! Ron could have connected with us, instead lost our faith in him.

As far as supporting other candidates, he will just change his tune as the wind blows. People have short memories and attention spans thanks to public ed.

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He is incapable of making a true difference.

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I couldn’t agree more Phil. When he looked around to see who was supporting Trump then raised his hand he lost my vote. Now I’m not sure if I’ll write Trunps name in or who. Wait for the nomination.

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"I do not think it is possible without divine intervention".

Like you I have great disappointment with current political' leaders'.

My suspicion, Dawn B, is that God is very disappointed in the whole political scheme. He never wanted His people to have a king, as He was their God and King. When Samuel was old the people demanded of him to appoint them a king the same as the other nations had. God allowed it, with the warnings of what a king would to to them.

It's fascinating reading, I recommend everyone read 1 Samuel 8, or start at 1 Samuel 1 to get the back story. It won't disappoint. As a side note, read from an current Bible (I prefer New King Jimmy), before AI re-writes everything, the old jot a tittle thing...

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Divine intervention... I just commented exactly that somewhere today!

I actually want to deep dive into the book of Daniel. Considering the current climate of the world it probably makes more sense now than it did centuries ago.

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Our church is doing Series on 1 Samuel and he just preached on 8 this week!!!

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I’m firmly in this camp myself. I don’t think the world is going to end. There will be bad times ahead. Not sure for how long. But The Lord God Almighty is going to remind His people and the entire world, yet again, that He is in control.

Why are the nations in an uproar

And the peoples devising a vain thing?

The kings of the earth take their stand

And the rulers take counsel together

Against the Lord and against His Anointed, saying,

β€œLet us tear their fetters apart

And cast away their cords from us!”

He who sits in the heavens laughs,

The Lord scoffs at them.

Then He will speak to them in His anger

And terrify them in His fury, saying,

β€œBut as for Me, I have installed My King

Upon Zion, My holy mountain.”

β€œI will surely tell of the decree of the Lord:

He said to Me, β€˜You are My Son,

Today I have begotten You.

β€˜Ask of Me, and I will surely give the nations as Your inheritance,

And the very ends of the earth as Your possession.

β€˜You shall break them with a rod of iron,

You shall shatter them like earthenware.’”

Now therefore, O kings, show discernment;

Take warning, O judges of the earth.

Worship the Lord with reverence

And rejoice with trembling.

Do homage to the Son, that He not become angry, and you perish in the way,

For His wrath may soon be kindled.

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The Aleph and the Tav.....beginning and end..

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True, and sad for America's remaining white hats.

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Been saying it for a while: DeSantis is the Establishment's candidate. He's a Bushie. The Bush people are running the show. He is funded almost exclusively by the billionaires that own the GOP. Everything he does is designed for maximum PR impact and minimum risk to him. The Disney dustup for example. Disney is still in business, still woke, and by reports, even worse, with bearded men dressed as women now running amusements in the park. Or the covid tyranny, where he was for it, until the all clear was issued, and then he was against it. Or with the Ukraine war, where he refuses to condemn it. Except that one time he accidentally said something too critical, then immediately backtracked and flew to Israel to sign FL legislation. (Israel is the 'tell' here; the center of the neocon universe.) Or most recently, on the debate stage, where he waited for everyone else to say whether they'd support Trump before committing to it himself. As with everything connected to the Bush family, he's a psy-op.

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Every observation you made is accurate. We are at an inflection point where anyone or anything dependent on the Republican party is only controlled opposition - at best. It's a Uniparty of Dem Communists/RINOs/NeoCons. Even as a supporter of DeSantis, I have been saying that no one stands a chance who is not financially independent of donors and party elites. Trump is the only candidate that is financially independent of the deep state. The last candidate that was independent of the system was John F Kennedy and the CIA killed him for it. This is why they fear Trump so much. Trump has more support from America now than he ever has! The frustration and anger of the American people has found a focus point in Trump. All of our feelings of helplessness and the growing white anger of all that is being done to us has not been able to coalesce because, other than a slimy Fauchi and a senile pedo President, there has been no outlet for this growing discontent. Trump is the threat to the deep state and with the indictments and the "Mug Shot", America's anger has found a point to focus their rage through. Trump is independent of the Uniparty and has demonstrated that he has the will to lead the fight. As a FL supporter of DeSantis, if he does not vigorously throw his FULL support behind Trump, then I am done with him. Furthermore, if Trump gets into office and does not follow through (which is conceivable) then our fight will have to abandon the national scene and carry the fight against the Fed Bolsheviks from the State level. That will mean a kinetic division of the States, Liberty from Communist.

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Does this sound like he will ever β€œ vigorously throw his FULL support behind Trump”? I think you can safely be done with him.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/08/desantis-defends-his-action-why-he-hesitated-raise/

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Florida Lawyer Challenges Trump’s Ability To Even Be On The Ballot Over J6

It remains to be seen how the courts will handle this controversial case. Still, its very filing underlines the extent to which the Deep State will go to cling to power.

https://www.redvoicemedia.com/2023/08/florida-lawyer-challenges-trumps-ability-to-even-be-on-the-ballot-over-j6/?utm_source=daily-email&utm_medium=email

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The DS will do whatever it takes because it is game over for them if Trump wins in 2024.

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And DeSantis is reminding me of Jeb Bush’s lackadaisical performance. He thought he could win on name recognition alone. He was wrong.

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IMO, the main issue the GOP has is that their interests as wealthy elites are at direct odds with the interests of their voting base. They keep campaigning like it's 2000/2004 and that their voter base hasn't changed and hasn't figured out what the GOP is actually all about. But, the base has changed and it has figured it out.

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I said the same thing in a comment here recently about DeSantis and the Bushs.

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Yes!!! THIS!!! Thank you! You nailed it and you win the internet today!! πŸ’ͺ🏻

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I was just thinking about that this morning, the reason we're on the defensive yet again is because we never went on the offensive. We have to get this movement going now and put them on the defensive. That's the only way we're going to get our lives back.

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As a DeSantis supporter (As Florida Governor), I sanction this message. We have an opportunity to pound the nail into the vaccine coffin. It's well past time. Good on ya, Phil!

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I love him as Gov!

As spoiler for Team MAGA, not so much.

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DeSantis did a lot of great things as governor. During Covid I was really happy that I lived in FL, I don’t think I would have survived anyplace else. Somehow he hooked up with Karl Rove and the Bush crime syndicate , had a drop by from Blackrock and BOOM! He’s running for president, really ineffectively I might add. Jeez, he looks like Howdy Doody out there. Come home,Ron. Come back to the people you brung to the dance, cut ties from the fancy whores you’ve aligned with and rethink this thing.

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DeSantis was awful in the early days of Covid. I would cross over into Georgia to visit family and marvel at how their restaurants and schools were still open.

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Then the Uniparty planners made their choice and gave Ron a new path designed to give him National attention.

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We Floridians benefited from that to the degree that we did. Not sure it was as rosy, cozy as the media has pictured it though. I suffered plenty of Covid persecution.

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DeSantis was always the establishment candidate and had everyone fooled.

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Almost makes you wonder, is he losing on purpose? It’s almost as though he doesn’t want the job..........

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I’m not a fan of Ron as far as his run for president goes. And while he did do some great things for FL, he didn’t go as far as he could there. He’s head and shoulders above our own milktoast leadership here in SC though.

But to be fair, who knows what kind of threats against him or his family may have been lobbed his way. If they can’t buy you off or compromise you and thus own you, TPTB are definitely not above threatening your loved ones. It may be they get a lot of people to bend the knee that way. Act like the life of those you love depends on it, because it does.

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This will never happen

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Pediatricians should be asked to provide evidence that benefits from jabs outweigh the risks. And are groups who run the universities and colleges also providing evidence that jabs are better than natural immunity?

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My child had seizures when young, so I didn’t vaccinate them. Despite the fact that numerous vaccine inserts state that a history of seizures from either the person or the family are contra indicative to taking those vaccines, their neurologist, who was the head of pediatric neurology there, was appalled that we had refused them. When I told him why, his response was: Well, all medical interventions have risk. Yeah, but, if an β€œintervention” is telling you not to do it if you have this particular health issue, it’s probably a good bet you _shouldn’t_ do it.

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This alone should tell you how captured doctors are when it comes to vaccines.

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Yes but if there is a risk, we should always be able to weigh the risks and benefits ourselves and decide which ones WE are comfortable with. It’s not the doctor's body and the doctors should advise to the best of their ability but always leave that choice up to the patient with no negative repercussions. Unfortunately that is not how many doctors operate (no pun intended πŸ˜›) πŸ˜•

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I agree. Frequently, doctors assume they know best, when they don’t. Everyone’s genetic makeup is different, even siblings. What works for one person is not necessarily going to work for another person. And, ultimately, it should be the person (or the parent) who makes that final decision.

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It seems the only evidence we can ever expect in the future will be the "word" of someone in a white lab coat. The medical establishment has fully embraced the fallacy of the Appeal to Authority.

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It’s disgusting 😑

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We would have thought that is what is meant by "informed consent." Alas.

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Good point. There is no benefit to our healthy youngsters.

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Exactly. And the litmus test is the effectiveness by which the enemy is directly taken on, engaged. And in one word ... prosecutions.

Yes, I have to see criminal prosecutions. Otherwise, we are doing theater ... and not uphold God's Law Order prohibiting unlawful killing, stealing, the bearing of false witness and failure to glorify God (first four Commandments.)

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And that IS the bottom line!

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SG Ladapo is warning people, but why isn't it banned? Maybe for safety because the vaxters would go crazy. Too many people are brainwashed and need deprogramming.

IDK, but just like taking legal or illegal drugs... it is a choice and the consequences are known so the culling continues. We get sicker and they "help" and get richer the pharmakeia way. Doctors do not question it either!

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They have been planting the seeds of vaccine safety for decades, over a century. These have been lies.

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Yes yes! and now it is accepted as basic health care.

My niece was talking about how her son went to the doctor to get his scheduled vaxxes. I said to never get them again and they are poison but I can't convince otherwise in a short conversation.

You have to be open to questioning and look for the truth. Nobody believes that they are really harmful AND are willing to risk that their kid is not the "small" % that get harmed. I used to politely debate the pediatrician about it and he firmly believed vaxxes were good.

Because my youngest never got shot, she is never sick.... No fevers and I can't remember if she ever had a cold.

I got them exempt for religious reasons from the health dept and went to a chiropractor for sports forms.

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Mine occasionally gets sick, but rarely while we watch our neighbors’ kids frequently sick.

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Tell them to read the 1st chapter of Turtles All The Way Down. That book is excellent!

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Is the turtle book about vaxxes? I am going to look it up.

I know enough and that it started with Rockefeller and petroleum meds and educating doctors by funding the universities etc. Pharmakeia... I am not sure it would be anything new to me.

Is it about something else?

Do you know why it is called turtles all the way down? Reminds me of the book Yertle the Turtle Dr Seuss wrote and how Yertle stepped on all the turtles to be king... Until they fell...in a nut shell but there are many political metaphores in this children's book.

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Just bought the turtle hardcover book on ebay for $4!

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I will share the book with them... Thanks

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PREACH IT!

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I hate to say it, but I want medical freedom. The minute that the state of Florida starts picking winners and losers for medical treatments, we are playing on the authortarian grounds. I believe the shots are a form of fraud. EVERYING in medicine is a risk reward equation. I think we should be free to choose. The way to regulate this is to remove the liability protections. I don't favor regulating the medical industry. I don't want the government and its agencies who are all captured in one way or another in charge of me and my family's health.

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I agree with you about regulation. But when a product is blatantly killing people there needs to be legal prosecution for these CRIMES. And that is not what is happening.

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Under our laws, I'm not sure that iatrogenic deaths or injury would qualify as a crime. Manslaughter? I don't know specifics of criminal law for this sort of thing. Not everyone who was vaxxed is injured or dead, and I think intent will matter.

But they certainly qualify as "wrongful deaths" in a civil case. Pfraudster and Mrnaderna are currently protected from this sort of suit. If that liability protection is removed, both companies will IMMEDIATELY stop selling the shots, there is no doubt in my mind. Let's let the free market do its thing. I don't' want Ron D and the FL legislature to open the door to some other authoritarian to stand on what they did.

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There doesn't appear to be any danger of that happening. As for intent, well there is a mountain of evidence to be developed for that in the right forum. But again, it won't happen under this regime or any future Uniparty regime.

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We must go on offense. All a state of county DA needs is some flimsy claim and minimal nexus to convene a grand jury and return an indictment. Lawfare is the next political battleground whether conservatives like it or not. Enjoin the battle or be prepared to be, yes, eliminated.

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The biggest mistake he ever made was to run for president this cycle. It's disrupting and disarming him. He's way less effective, and our alliance is weakened.

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Because your Governor is busy lining his pockets so he can "pose" to be a candidate for POTUS!

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I'm going to work on an article on how we can LEGALLY NON-COMPLY. I was able to do this with the mandates when corporations started enforcing them and I think we should educate ourselves on how we can use the LAW and the RIGHTS we have to LEGALLY SAY NO:

https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/

We've seen how some teaches have used it to not call kids whatever pronouns the child wants to be called (https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/elmo-and-a-rock)

PS: Jeff feel free to correct my work once I complete it :)

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Good. Another way is to just say no. If my company tries it I will first email the mask study to them. If that doesn't work they get my 2 week notice. And I will remain mask free those 2 weeks. That will leave the vaxxed with their constant illnesses, dei hires, and the compliants who will be miserable. Good luck with that. πŸ‘

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Let them fire you. Do not quit.

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Yes, have them fire you. And get everything in writing, not verbally. You may need evidence for a lawsuit against them.

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Good point. Maybe I will just fuss and carry-on which I am quite capable of. Make everyone's life miserable and stir up trouble. Lol. πŸ˜‰

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That may also plant seeds for those that are on the fence about the covid nonsense or for those that are waking up to it. If you quit, you wouldn't be able to sue them in the future.

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Yes. And I can payback the company for all their covid transgressions nonsense. I like to say "Don't get mad. Get even."

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At least you may be able to collect unemployment… unless the state β€œmandatesβ€πŸ€·

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Courage to say no helps those around you to find their own courage.

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This is so true

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Agree

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So true! We see so many examples of sheeple behavior which spreads like a contagion, that it’s easy to forget the pendulum swings the other way too.

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Just remember to read what Jeff has already written about documenting your objection, etc. It's pretty easily found in the archives! <3

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Problem: not everyone can afford to do that.

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I know. Fortunately I can so I plan to step up and let them have it. For myself and on the behalf of others. I already gave HR my opinion on how their entire covid coercion BS ruined moral and lowered productivity big time. Also that they were acting like a physician and pushing medical advice. Just to name some topics. They were shocked to say the least.

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I wish we could get these people on the acting like a physician thing. Why are businesses allowed to decide that their customers need to wear a medical device?? Why can judges decide that for their courtrooms? I mean no one should be able to make medical decisions for others but why are non physicians allowed to give medical advice?

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HR is one of the biggest problems everywhere.

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Almost entirely run by a cadre of Karens.

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You go Annie!

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Where is the link to the study? I looked on NIH website. Nothing obvious, from searching β€œchemicals in N95 mask”. I would have to read 143 studies. I simply do not have the time to do that.

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If mandates are not laws, which is what I have read, it is the attempt to enforce them AS laws which is illegal. Compliance and noncompliance are equally legal choices since a mandate requires agreement.

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besides, the AG selectively enforce only those laws they agree to, why must we be required for follow ll their laws?

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Certainly there are laws we should not follow, the ones that are unjust and immoral. It's a choice to put yourself on the line, as is what has been happening even with those who don't comply with mandates, even though they do not have legal force. As you say, authorities enforce the laws, mandates, policies, etc., which fit with their agenda, and let the others go.

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You are correct and that is why everything they did to lock us down and forcefully mask us and vaccinate us is unconstitutional. All of those agencies are run by unelected bureaucrats. Only Congress has the authority to make laws.

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Likewise on the city level. In Minneapolis, the mayor made a mask mandate for businesses and attempted a vaccine mandate for restaurants. Masks were pretty much universally enforced by businesses (also illegal), the vaccine mandate was mostly ignored. But only the city council can pass ordinances, and the city council didn't. We all need to understand better what government power is, and what it isn't.

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They relied on compliance and they got it bigly.

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Businesses enforced the policies so law enforcement didn’t need to. I was denied entry into an establishment because I did not produce a vax card. Made a big scene and would not let me in even though it was outdoors.

They will do whatever they want at the time and then it will take years in court to make it right if we have the money, time and emotional strength to go that far.

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I have subscribed, Franklin.

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Thank You Janet! Please let me know if there's anything I can improve upon! Feedback is always appreciated :)

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ditto, same here Janet.

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Unorthodoxy/Franklin - If you're looking for a helpful stack idea, I am looking for any that provide the downside of masks (and one for vaxxes) that don't contain any language to point to the author's general bias toward all things Covid. In other words, nothing inflammatory either way about the narrative. I keep seeing articles with great info, but they'd be hard to simply pass along to skeptics/people in leadership due to the putdowns and non-objective languaging. There are scientific studies, I suppose, but sometimes a more easily readable paper would be helpful to pass along.

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I imagine those that have conformed may be genuinely scared of their future and it's easier to keep their heads in the sand.

I agree with you. I have the same problem, feeling I can't pass on information as the language used gaslights their choices.

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I’ve also subscribed

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Great idea!

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looking forward to checking it out Franklin - sounds like a great premise for a 'Stack.

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I haven't given to big charities for many years. Especially anything related to the United way. Back in the 90s my work mandated that we give for a πŸ’― company wide giving. I stuck to my guns and would not. That didn't sound like a charity to me. I negotiated an agreement. They gave me $20 cash and they deducted $10, one time, from my pay. The entire charity thing smelled like a rotten scam. I try to give direct now.

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