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Valerie's avatar

Was just thinking when C&C popped up how we know everything about Luigi Mangione, but still not one thing about the Butler, PA shooter.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

So easy to forget about these false flag ops.

I mean, how long ago was the Vegas mass shooting? Somehow that guy got 50 rifles into his hotel room?

And the story went totally silent.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

I gotta feeling, starting 1/20, the public is gonna start getting a full-on truth enima.

It'll be one part shocking and another unsettling...so much so many will ignore it.

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Jeff C's avatar

And just like one, although they are unpleasant to administer and the reaction is convulsive, you feel better afterwards.

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Valerie's avatar

Only if Trump’s nominations are confirmed!

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Freebird's avatar

Yes, the most controversial of which seems to be Pete Hegseth, which tells us that the demons are embedded in the military and are screaming loudly at being expelled. Praying for his confirmation.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

"My name is Legion". Ironic, that.

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rolandttg's avatar

Joni Ernst has already caved. He's fine.

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CaplT's avatar

I’d like to think that she saw the light of voting with her constituents not against them.

Every vote her feet will need to be held to the fire and be reminded of her duty to them, the person they elected, and frankly the GOP.

There is a reason the Dem politicians are a powerful voting block. They vote together in public and take each other down in private.

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rolandttg's avatar

You hit the nail on the head. They never break ranks, yet the RINO's have made it SOP. That needs to end yesterday, and I think this time, it will.

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Taiga Rohrer's avatar

Rino's don't break ranks, they are actually Demoncrats that ran as Republicans as their voters are too stupid to figure it out. Sure they'll talk enough of a story to fool the ignorants, but they always side with their actual tribe of Dems when it comes to votes. Romney in Utah is a perfect example.

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rolandttg's avatar

time to primary them

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Taiga Rohrer's avatar

Unfortunately Romney soon will be "retired" and although you'd think that would be a great opportunity for people to learn from their mistakes, but his heir was selected to run by the Salt Lake City bunch. The election was a choice only between this new RINO and an admitted DEM. So John Curtis is his replacement starting in January, but he is no better than Romney, doesn't care about the will of the people outside blue SLC, said he'd only support Trump if it aligned with "Utah" values, and already said he'd veto Gaetz. Sorry America - at least Senator Mike Lee is a strong conservative.

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S.P.H.'s avatar

It's not over till it's over, rolandttg. Politicians can be pressured in many ways...

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Mike's avatar

We'll see!!

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Julinthecrown's avatar

🙏🏻🤞🏻🙏🏻🤞🏻🙏🏻🤞🏻

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CeeMcG's avatar

If it’s not on CNN or MSNBC, they won’t even hear it 🙉

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FedUpInOR's avatar

Yes bc Trump keeps validating MSM by going on their broadcasts. Time to ignore them and go on the podcasts and alternative media that got him elected so MSM can take the dirt nap they deserve

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alongername's avatar

Will that truth enima make me more enigmatic ?

Seems like people have a hard enough time understanding me as it is !

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Quality BS Detector's avatar

Was that typo a "truth enigma" or a "truth enema"? I mean, both work, in a way, but then you'd want to say:

<<Will that truth enema make me more fluent? >>

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alongername's avatar

haha . either way....... just go with the flow :-)

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

LOLOLOL. I don't know if that was a mistake...either way it's clever!

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Robin Greer's avatar

I hope so. 🙂

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AJoy's avatar

I’ve been ready and waiting for the truth for years. Rip the bandaid off already!!

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

You and me both.

But I'm feeling bullish on America and The Truth.

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PJ's avatar

"Truth enema" 😂😝

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Valerie's avatar

Right? I was thinking about that one too. In 24 hours we know everything about Mangione, but other shooters nothing after years.

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AL's avatar

They were ready this time. An entire history, including one degree of separation from Myorkas, available for viewing. This thing stinks to high heaven.

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FedUpInOR's avatar

Exactly. It’s too perfect. He still had the gun on his person and a written manifesto…

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RunningLogic's avatar

His reference to “the Feds” made me go 🤨

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Lone Star exile's avatar

False Flag...

False Flag...

False Flag...

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AL's avatar

I guess the public at large is so dense they need to lay it on really thick, risking the fact that many of us will see right through that schlock. But most won't....

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daverkb's avatar

I will never forget Vegas. So much light was put on this 'event' by citizen journalists that The Narrative could not stand up to it. And so strangely, or not so strangely, the story got kicked out of the 'news'. Yup! Just magically disappeared and without the slightest effort to follow up on all the 'discrepancies' on the part of the 'authorities'.

By the way, I had a friend say that he tried to find obituaries for alleged victims by name and home town, and he said he could not find a single one. I never tried doing that, and it is therefore not corroborated by me ... and so I cannot validated it. But the guy is a close friend, smart and is scrupulously honest. In any event, it is one more thing which is a cause for wondering.

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Andrea Leshok's avatar

I know someone, although not particularly well, who was there that night and she was terrified. She wasn't harmed physically but I do believe it was something that really happened. I don't believe the story we were fed about it, however.

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daverkb's avatar

I pretty much am in the same camp. I don't believe the narratives we are fed. But yes, sometimes people die, and sometimes not. In fact, in the 911 event ... over 3,000 died. In Orlando, it is possible that nobody died. In Charlottesville near where I once lived, the whole thing looked like it was a stage show complete with lines of parked buses which had brought people in to be a part of the show.

The travesty supreme is that these 'events' are never ever properly investigated. But I am sure that some day we will know some more of what went on. Because sooner of later stuff comes out because people tend not to be able to keep their mouths shut, and for a variety of reasons.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Chris Stapleton wrote the definitive statement on that horror show. No connection to the Malibu fire. May God comfort the survivors and purify His people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK6MGK2wnjQ

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Dr Linda's avatar

I think about that situation every so often. I think “we” as a population were a little more gullible back then.

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DS's avatar

Instead of the word, "gullible", I think the word "trusting" would apply. I know myself, I didn't think our own government would turn on us to implement the virus. It's scary just what having power over the people can lead to. I know I will never trust the government again. Remember what President Reagan said in his first inaugural address: "Government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem."

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Elaine Russky's avatar

Did you live through the JFK assassination? After that, I became cynical about government and that's never really gone away.

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Dr Linda's avatar

Are you asking me if I lived through JFK’s murder? Yes, I was alive. It changed my very young life

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LMWC's avatar

Yes, and it still is…

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Sumter53's avatar

So right about that awful event. The police chief in LV during the time somehow found his way to Maui during the unprecedented fire event. It is in one of my many notebooks somewhere but the man ended up being the mayor or the chief of police in Maui. He was one of the ones standing on stage by the man wearing a suit with every press conference in LV. They must be slipping up or think we are totally ignorant. OR, they know that WE KNOW and are daring us to do something about it.

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Jay Horton's avatar

panem et circenses.... or football and Bud Light......

Later Jay

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Curtis's avatar

Scrolling YouTube yesterday and an episode of "Forgotten History* showed up on the Mandalay Bay shooting... I'm like 🤔, that was not that long ago...

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Mike's avatar

Not to mention Thomas Crooks’ 17 multiple cell phones at least one of which was geolocated in Washington DC multiple times prior to the assassination attempt

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striketheroot's avatar

Technically if a story is total piece of fiction it is a "false operation" where no one actually gets hurt whereas a false flag usually involves some sort of real damage and the perp's identity is clearly (and falsely) attributed to blackwash a certain thing or group (like gun owners, Arab terrorists or "antisemites".

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Carlos's avatar

Ask the same to Prince Al Walled.

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Susan Clack's avatar

Yes, welllllll...the interesting tale of the foiled plot to assassinate a certain Saudi Prince who happened to be at the hotel that fateful night in Vegas has been sneaking around in the Tinfoil Hat Community for awhile. But that's fare for somebody else's 'Stack, to be sure! 🙄🙄🙄

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Principled Pragmatist's avatar

With today’s news about the apprehended alleged shooter, why am I still suspicious he’s the real guy?

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Chevrus's avatar

The severe lack of casings…..

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Elaine Russky's avatar

He brought them up from the parking garage in luggage, on a cart, in the freight elevator.

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Annie's avatar

Agree 💯. Too many things don't seem to fit. A handwritten manifesto from a 26 year old. My son is 25 and he doesn't have anything handwritten on him. 🤔

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79SmithW60's avatar

Great point Annie. I thought over the past ten years or so that kids weren't learning how to hand write anything, let alone have the hand dexterity or patience to write three whole pages since everything is typed on a computer!!??? Or maybe that is just in taxpayer fleeced/funded government run schools. My understanding is that they barely learn to sign their name. No more cursive.

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Jamison's avatar

Yes! Who, at 26, even knows who the CEO of a health care company is? And then knows what his schedule is? And waits around all night knowing the CEO will be outside alone in the morning? What?

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Annie's avatar

Good points. The schedule knowledge was detailed. Hmmm 🤔

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Donna in MO's avatar

Annual shareholder meetings are public information, but knowing which hotel he was staying in??? He definitely had help.

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JimB's avatar

Maybe suspect slapped an Airtag on victims car?

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Donna in MO's avatar

I did, starting subscribing to Forbes, Fortune, etc in college and did read a host of biz mags regularly, but I was a business major. Kids these days have the world at their fingerprints and they are both informed and radicalized via the internet.

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striketheroot's avatar

Define "informed".

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Donna in MO's avatar

Heck, I can't even define it for myself. So many things I think I knew I now know are lies....

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striketheroot's avatar

Oh the "fearless fosdicks" left out the part where the shooter was actually "psychedelic" too 😁

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Donna in MO's avatar

Well my daughter is 31 and she does have a thing for writing. She orders fancy journals and is fond of making lists, writing down quotes, and such. But yeah, that's rare. Was in a project team meeting with a client the other day. The 3 of us who were, ahem, older, all had our legal pads and were taking notes. The 3 Millennials had their notebook computers and were typing furiously. I've tried, I can't concentrate on what is going on and type at the same time, even if that would be more efficient. Guess it's a skill they have learned and I never have. There is something about making written lists and crossing them off, or going back through notes and highlighting or circling things that just seems more satisfying to me???

Agree Annie, something is definitely OFF about this one.....

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Irunthis1's avatar

It's why they don't retain information the way we do as well. Nothing is better at input for the brain than the physical act of writing, writing, writing. Made my way thru pharmacy school scrupulously writing, organizing, making note cards etc the same info over and over. Having spent nine long months working as a clerk-typist at the NLRB (THE most boring job EVER and my only foray into a non-pharmacy job after age 16) I promise you I didn't retain a single thing I typed for those overpaid, underworked lawyers in that office. I was excellent at spelling though, which is a good thing because (yes, I am that old) it was all on typewriters via dictation. I don't recommend it. <shudders>

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Yes, there is evidence of the connection of the handwritten to the brain.

I used to write a blog for my website and email newsletter, and always hand wrote it first, then typed it, and then sent it to my husband for a final edit and transfer to Constant Contact email to send out.

I still write ideas down, and do lists.

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Donna in MO's avatar

Yes, when I go to presentations or speakers, I always carry a half sized notebook (fits in my purse) and take notes, as I find I pay better attention and less likely to get distracted when I do so, even if I may never go back and look at them. I've had people approach me and ask if I am a reporter! LOL, nope.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

I have an inordinate interest in Field Notes, small pocket sized notebooks in a large variety of designs.

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alongername's avatar

i just answer "Yes, I'm from Mars and my fellow Martians get a real kick reading about the insanity down here. And they LOVE the photos ! "

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Mari's avatar

👍 agree, also a pharmacist

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char's avatar

do not believe the doctor is concentrating on what is being said when typing away...........seems concerns overlooked for this ''efficiency'';

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Carla's avatar

I had a new PCP who typed everything but kept asking me the same questions. I wondered if he was paying attention or trying to catch me in a lie?

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79SmithW60's avatar

"Note taking" nowadays is done with the control device (phone or tablet). Your daughter is likely the anomaly, because it is a passion and something she enjoys. I'm with you, I can't "type" notes, I have to quickly hand write my notes on a legal pad or notebook. Lists and writing down goals, etc., then crossing them off when completed does have a satisfaction to it, that a "computer note" never would.

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Donna in MO's avatar

Yes, it's funny she was never one to keep a 'diary' per se, but she did a lot of writing, and spent a lot of time picking out journals, and very particular. Her favorite characters in a movie. Books she wanted to read. Skin care ingredients to avoid, and so on. Still see random journals laying around at her house.

Oh, and one of our favorite family heirlooms is a journal someone gave me when I was pregnant with her - the cover said "funny things the kids said and did" We would randomly add entries to that book as the kids grew up and still pull it out and laugh at family gatherings. It was also a balm to pull out and look through it when they were being a PITA and you'd want to wring their necks, haha.

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79SmithW60's avatar

LOL! Awesome, great memories!

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Elaine Russky's avatar

I use a fountain pen. True, I'm old, but you'd be surprised how many young people are buying and using fountain pens. There are fountain pen shows around the country where people can buy, sell, and trade. They are well attended by people of all ages. Some have even taken an interest in calligraphy. They compare inks, paper, nib materials . . . extensively.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

In law school I initially handwrote my notes, later transcribing them to my PC @ home.

But I got tired of the double work as I was working full-time for the US Courts at that time.

So I eventually started hauling a primitive laptop to class with me and directly recorded my notes. (I'm actually an IT professional who accidentally became a lawyer.)

By the time I graduated, I was a helluva touch typist.

In my first attorney job, they brought me a Dictaphone to transcribe my correspondence and legal writing for my secretary to transcribe my briefs and other docs. I gave it the old college try, but quickly abandoned the dictation and just typed my own drafts.

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Donna in MO's avatar

It is way more efficient but I am not a helluva typist. I am fine when I am on a roll and typing a report or something but in a meeting, I still make enough errors that if I have to make corrections I find I am paying more attention to the typing than the conversation. In HS we did have to type term papers (on a typewriter) and my sister was a crack typist so I traded her household chores for her to type my papers for me, and in college I dated a guy a couple of years who was a great typist too. After we broke up, the library started offering MACs that you could come in and type, then save to a floppy disc that you would take to a different location to get it loaded to a computer that was tied to a printer. Seeing your typing on a full sized screen saved me a lot of white out. Kids don't have any idea how easy they have it, haha.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I agree, I am the same but my kids (though they did learn cursive and are teenaged and early 20s) prefer not to write longhand and will almost always choose to type instead.

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MOMinator's avatar

My kids are 26-30 and they don’t hand-write ANYTHING

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

My grandkids (21 and 18) can't write in cursive; they can print and type. I view not being able to write as a form of illiteracy.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

That is true in the government schools…not true in most private schools or homeschools.

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79SmithW60's avatar

Exactly. Our son is home educated, and he knows how to read and write (both cursive and printing)!

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Jacquijacq's avatar

I was thinking the exact same thing!

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alongername's avatar

I have noticed lately that large groups of the population seem to be walking

a bit stooped over ......and their fingers appear to be stunted except for large

thumbs.

When i attempt to make conversation I am met with a confused look , and sometimes just a grunt in reply .

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79SmithW60's avatar

Crazy, isn't it! Maybe try and grunt at them first and see what they do!!

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alongername's avatar

When i do that they think I'm a football coach recruiting for the cheerleaders.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

When my son was in bootcamp I wrote to him every single day. Usu. 4 - 6 pages of handwritten text in cursive.

Only when he graduated did I learn that he could only partially read my letters because he didn't know cursive.

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PJ's avatar

I always "write" a note to the grandkids on the birthday cards- and always wonder if they have to ask Mom what it says LOL!!!!

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Elaine Russky's avatar

Cool. We've got a secret code.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Among my middle school students (say, 2008-19), rare though it was, cursive writing only came from the boys.

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Andrea Leshok's avatar

I can say that my 10 yo could hand write a 3 page paper in cursive. But she goes to private school (as did Luigi). So....?

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Valerie's avatar

Good point. I have 20-something kids, they never handwrite anything. And how would he know how to get multiple legitimate fake IDs? So many things that don’t add up.

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MOMinator's avatar

Nothing about the Mangioni arrest feels right. The mistakes he made (like exposing his masked/unmasked face to a multitude of surveillance cameras), feel like the actions of someone who doesn’t expect to be held accountable…

Distraction? Op? CIA? FBI? Who knows…

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shayne's avatar

He still had the gun, he disposed of his backpack in a grassy area, seen in a fast food restaurant, had false ID's on his person. Either he was looking for notoriety or he's working for government disrupters.

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rolandttg's avatar

Remember, there Always needs to be a patsy for closure.

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shayne's avatar

If he is he'll likely be Epstein-ed

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rolandttg's avatar

So you noticed too how most patsy's don't live to be arrested. There are variations, of course. Both one of the Tsaranaev brother's (accused Boston Marathon bombers)

https://truthandshadows.com/2013/05/08/false-flag-theatre-boston-bombing-involves-clearly-staged-carnage/

and the El Salvadorian nanny accused of murdering CNBC's VP Krim's 2 young kids

https://www.nydailynews.com/2012/10/26/deranged-nanny-allegedly-kills-two-children-of-cnbc-media-executive-kevin-krim-and-wife-marina-kids-2-and-6-are-found-by-mom-in-bathtub-at-luxury-upper-west-side-apartment-building-nypd/

were rendered unable to speak.

Nice touch, no?

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Don't forget that Jack Ruby (since confirmed as a CIA contract asset) was found unresponsive unable to communicate immediately after a visit from psychiatrist Dr. Jolly West, who was later revealed to be a major CIA asset himself involved in LSD experimentation in MK ULTRA.

Before Dr. West visited Ruby, he accidentally killed an OKC Zoo elephant with a massive overdose of LSD. He pretty much had to leave town after that became a major story in The Daily Oklahoman, ca. 1966.

After Ruby's sudden, unexpected "psychological break" Dr. West moved to Haight Ashbury to oversee the agency's Operation Midnight Climax for the MK ULTRA program, where the CIA setup a brothel and filmed the unknowingly dosed customers.

It's probably just a series of coincidences though.

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rolandttg's avatar

I learn something every single day that disproves an official narrative. I will keep saying it until people finally internalize it. EVERYTHING we have ever been told officially of any importance is a lie. The more sacred the lie, the more challenges are censored or criminalized, the more certain you can be it is not just a lie, but a crucial to their powerbase lie. I have yet to be proven wrong on a single point.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Everything we were taught about the world and our place in it is pretty much fiction.

In his Wuhan book, RFK Jr. points out that US aircrews used biological warfare agents on the Korean and Vietnamese peoples.

I am sure that was what led to the Watergate coup against Nixon, after he signed an Executive Order stopping biowarfare development at Ft. Detrick.

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shayne's avatar

It certainly appears so.

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Melissa S's avatar

A multitude of different things he could have done to distort his appearance: wear a wig, color his hair, trim his eyebrows, wear glasses, not smile, wear padding to appear heavier, dress in a different style....

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RunningLogic's avatar

Plus go to such a public place relatively close to where the murder happened.

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AngelaK's avatar

His family didn't know where he was after his back surgery.

Maybe his back surgery was denied? Who paid for it?

I personally feel that there was a personal situation with insurance that riled him up.

He wasn't a loner from what I read, (he was well liked in the hostile in Hawaii) but we see that he was drifting around, and obviously had the money to do so. His family is reportedly quite well off.

In any case, Yes, some insurance can be evil and horrible in their actions against people's health and life. However killing someone will not make the entire system of it better.

And it is sad that such a bright, young man will spend his life in prison.

It is sad that a man's life was taken abrubtly.

It is incredibly sad for the children of the CEO.

It is also quite sad for the parents of Luigi.

Sins against God and His commandments are always tragic all around because they hurt one or more people.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

Someone attending a $40,000 a year private school isn't worried about paying for back surgery.

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Emily 🌼🌼🌼🌼🌼's avatar

Could he be nuts from some self administered pain meds ?

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Cindi's avatar

He also claims he was self-funded & worked alone to “save” the investigators some trouble or wasted time or something. Me thinks he doth protest too much in making that such a “helpful” point

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yeah I also thought it was odd and suspicious that he did that.

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Annie's avatar

And all the young kids have fake IDs so they can get into bars and clubs. It's easy peasy to them.

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Valerie's avatar

We all had fake IDs to get into bars back in the day, and I’m sure many still do. The Real ID is much more difficult to fake, though.

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TG's avatar

yea but he did it which means it can be done so the "real" id is just another farce from the establishment...

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Donna in MO's avatar

Heck I had a fake ID in the 80's. Drinking age in Kansas at the time was 18, while MO was 21. We all had fake ID's to go to the clubs in KS. (lived close to the border with KS). Granted they were not impressive fakes, but I don't think the clubs cared, they wanted our money, and the checking of ID's at the door was just a show.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I feel like I’m the only one who never did that 😆😛

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Elaine Russky's avatar

I made fake graduation tickets. When it had to be moved indoors because of weather, they limited every student to 2 tickets. Didn't want to disappoint the grandparents, friends, relatives, etc.

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RunningLogic's avatar

That’s a new one! 😆😁

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Donna in MO's avatar

Everything was more laid back then - I remember one bar that was busted by Liquor Control that some friends were at, and they were not impressed by their fake ID's but they just took the ID's and trashed them and told them to go home. Today that would probably have been headline news.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Those laws are dumb and should never have been passed in the first place, imo. They never accomplished what they were supposedly meant to accomplish. But that’s nothing new 🙄

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Donna in MO's avatar

Yeah, for me it was as much the thrill of getting by with something we weren't supposed to be doing more than the ability to drink piss water 3.2 beer. But the more society clamors for 'there ought to be a law.....', the more we get politicians all too happy to oblige us. We are technically a nation of law breakers, as anyone who burrows themselves in the massive number of laws can likely find SOMETHING they can hang us with. It's the ultimate tyranny we have (as a whole) brought on ourselves.

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Carolyn Brouillard's avatar

Having been in punk and anarchist circles when I was in my teens and 20s, I can say that the handwritten manifesto is a classic. It was likely a homage to earlier activists he identifies with and perhaps a way to minimize potential digital surveillance. So that doesn't seem weird to me. How he knew the schedule is weird to me, barring more info. Was that part of the CEO's daily routine or was this a special meeting? I feel like it is safe to at least question whether all of these kinds of events right now are orchestrated for some purpose, like tearing our country apart and destabilizing our sense of security.

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glenn's avatar

This smells like a CIA op, probably to achieve the effect it’s having; froth up the brainwashed left into class warfare, which is ironic, since woke warfare was all about identity and rabidly avoid class issues. And they’re taking the bate.

This kid is exactly the type the ICs recruit. Highly “intelligent” by by all the metrics designed to select these types out, but without a sense of self, thus bendable into radical positions. He may have rejected the overt recruiting, so they molded him into a useful idiot. The spotters were pros and long gone with no discernible trail. Perhaps too late, we will find out the “shots” is accelerating mental instability.

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Merry McIntyre's avatar

Agree 100%. Smacks of MK Ultra mind control. Many red flags.

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Alleytown's avatar

Yup. MK ULTRA. 100%.

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Susan Clack's avatar

🎯🎯🎯 First thing I thought when I heard of the shooting ...

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Michele's avatar

If he wanted to minimize digital surveillance he should have gotten coffee at a coffee cart or hole in the wall bodega, not Starbucks. He wouldn't have pulled down his mask at the hostel. Nope, I don't buy it. The manifesto at this point is a cliche the handlers think they need to direct OUR discourse. And also, if he really did write one, and wanted to publicize his beliefs with this murder, why not pin it to the victim, then; why carry it around with him on the run?

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rolandttg's avatar

The Roanoke "shooter's " manifesto was shown to have at least two authors. One of the lines referred to "East Asians". Ever heard an American use that to describe anyone.? Ever?

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Michele's avatar

Lol only 'Americans' (really they are globalist henchfolk) who have had a good foreign policy education talk like that.....

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Bryan Dair's avatar

“The past was alterable. The past never had been altered. Oceania was at war with Eastasia. Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia.” ― George Orwell, 1984

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Carolyn Brouillard's avatar

And maybe he didn't have a printer! Lots of kids with laptops, not many with printers! And why risk printing off a vengeful manifesto and confession at Kinkos?

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Donna in MO's avatar

Shareholder meeting was public information. We own stocks and get invitations to attend the annual meeting. But the hotel he was staying in? That would have been an insider tip from someone....

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WakingUp's avatar

Yep, easy to figure out that the victim would be in the vicinity of hotel where they were holding the investor meeting that morning, but the shooter was in wait behind the car for only about 5 minutes, I think, which suggests a tip off.

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Donna in MO's avatar

SH meeting was in one hotel, but he opted to stay in a different one down the street. I suppose it could be old school, tip off from someone he knew or slipped a few bucks to someone who worked for the hotel. Or a hack in the reservation system. But having watched the video, what struck me was his calm demeanor, as if this was not his first time. I would think a grudge killing he would have wanted to confront him before doing the deed?? Like the LV shooter, and the 2 Trump shooters, I am not confident we will ever get the whole truth.

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WakingUp's avatar

With you. Such steely calm!

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Carolyn Brouillard's avatar

Yeah, quite a stretch to go from pretty normal kid to assassin and ultimately resign his life away. That supports to MK Ultra theory to me.

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Michele's avatar

This is a big pet peeve of mine, the whole "manifesto" thing. Puh-lease. Nothing spells 'false flag' or 'brought to you by a three-letter-agency' better than all of these shooters having alleged manifestos. Exactly, young kids rarely handwrite, and would be far more likely to livestream or send a farewell tiktok. I didn't believe it with the Nashville shooter, didn't believe it with Butler PA, don't believe it here. Manufactured motive, clue dropped by handlers to steer our discourse in the desired (dividing) directions.

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TG's avatar

the mug shot is really a question as well... never seen one like that before.. I'd like to see if that place provides the same "pic" as this one...

also the pic of the 3d gun sure looks like a P80.. of course the blurry pic is useful for the "ghost gun" story...

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william howard's avatar

shows how far our education system has sunk - Prager U has a series going on now on the benefits of capitalism aka free market economy, and if even one tenth of those videos were shown/taught in our schools communism/socialism would be sent to the dustbin of history

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Francis's avatar

The issue here is corruption, not capitalism. The healthcare industry straight up robs people.

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Sir Jeff Morency, Ph.D.'s avatar

The WORST part is that they use technology that was obsoleted 90 years ago AND passed laws that doctors can't use the better, more modern Energy Density Frequency Technology.

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Jay Horton's avatar

Yes.

Later Jay

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NofloChick's avatar

And still had the gun with him????

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Kitty Trout's avatar

He had degrees in engineering. He knows that everything on his computer is traceable, AI can find and hack, and he’s able to search an executive’s schedule easily.

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rolandttg's avatar

This reminds me of FTX. I believe Sam Bankman - Freid was the brains behind FTX as much as I do this yo yo pulled this off, what ever "this" really was.

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Shelle's avatar

This is too big of a generalization. There are all sorts of microtrends where something vintage becomes cool. Record players, for example. Bullet journals. Polaroid cameras. There are still plenty of kids who know how to write!

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Elaine Russky's avatar

When my nephew was in high school a couple years ago, he couldn't write in cursive, but did invent a new language, kind of a phonetics-based system written with its own alphabet, modified cyrillic characters that looked Russian. When I say "nephew," he's a grand-nephew, but that makes me look old.

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Mike's avatar

Evidently he’s a brilliant kid of 26 that was in NYC for a week scouting & planning & killing the CEO but then this brilliant kid is too stupid (may be arrogance) to lose the gun, silencer, manifesto, and all clothing he had been seen in? Almost like the Crooks kid who was kicked off the high school rifle team became was a bad shot and careless with his firearm but then he misses assassinating Trump by 1” from 100 yards?

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79SmithW60's avatar

Or what three letter agency (I mean person) planted the pipe bombs at the DNC and RNC on Jan 5/6 2021...

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Eff-Bee-Eye

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T Diesel's avatar

Spelling BEE😉

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Chevrus's avatar

Something tells me they will be “thawing out” entire flocks of these assets in the coming chaos….

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Renee Marie's avatar

You mean FBI? 😂

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Just Comment's avatar

Thank You Lord that we can still talk so freely in this Nation.

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Yuri Bezmenov's avatar

Deep State is stonewalling both the Butler PA and Palm Beach assassins - nothing to see here, move along.

"When an assassin shoots you in the ear, get back up, pump your fists, and yell FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT." -Donald Trump, The Art of the Troll

https://yuribezmenov.substack.com/p/trump-the-art-of-the-troll

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Taiga Rohrer's avatar

What is remarkable to me about this healthcare CEO, is that the shooting is relatively unremarkable. If it were just some random dude shot in NYC we would have never heard about it. But despite the number of people shot in NYC last week, the collective "they" wanted us to hear about this specifically. Because of that, the question is why? Maybe Jeff is right about the efforts to stir up a class war, it's undeniable "they" are using this to stir something up, or distract folks from other issues.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Great point. It does seem They want to get a class war going. Maybe merge it with a race war. Destabilize Trump domestically.

Like they're doing on the international front by activating a new war in Syria and pumping more billions into Ukraine.

Giving Trump a couple of turds in burning paper bags to stomp out.

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Jacquijacq's avatar

I saw a funny comment on gab:

BLM please note, the DNC is broke and will not be putting up your bail!

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Melissa S's avatar

That is funny. But doesn't BLM still have millions?

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shayne's avatar

I wouldn't think so, given their atrocious bookkeeping, and thieving executive.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Spent on mansions.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Like people who get evicted trashing the place before they leave 😕

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RJ Rambler's avatar

THIS IS THE FIRST THING I THOUGHT OF!! It seemed obvious that it was well planned and news scripted... Like a certain school shooting, bombings, or other Pres. shootings or how many could we name...

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LuAnne's avatar

Not a peep about the Butler, PA shooter or the would-be golf course shooter. It's like they've never existed. Maybe after Trump’s inauguration, something will be released. Surely, the FBI and/or CIA has info they're hiding or refusing to release.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

It would've been "solved" the day after the incident if it weren't for pesky cellphone videos....

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Have you seen Dan Bongino’s and DC Draino’s Tweets about the power of social media as the route to our power? Both men nailed it: the powerful people despise social media because it’s the source of our new found power. Elon was right when he said last month that we are the media now. We can change Joni Ernst’s mind, we can solve murders, and we can elect the people who will actually act on our behalf for a change. This is totally awesome! 🤩

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Jeff C's avatar

Agree but we didn't change Joni Ernst's mind. We exposed her little scheme (cooked up with McConnel and Graham) to force Trump's hand to dump Hegseth and replace him with Ernst herself. It was a backstabbing move with the full support of the media.

We made it clear this wasn't 2016, games like this won't fly anymore, and she would be destroyed in the 2026 primary if she kept it up. There was a strategic tweet of Trump with Iowa's MAGA Attorney General and the message was clear; keep it up and this is who will replace you in 2026.

She miscalculated in a huge way because she's a typical red state RINO who thought she was untouchable. Now she's backing down with her tail between her legs. But she showed her true stripes and may still get primaried regardless. This type of stuff will no longer be tolerated by people supposedly on our side.

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Beckadee's avatar

Trump's tweets are so great. He's still having fun calling Trudeau Governor of the 51st state.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

She needs to be primaried regardless; Iowa can do better and once you see that an elected official is a RINO or part of the Deep State get them out at the first opportunity! Iowans, are you listening?

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Lisa Ca's avatar

exactly!

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Donna in MO's avatar

But it also requires that We the People ARE paying attention - using our free time to get educated, write the emails, make the phone calls, post on social media and inform and encourage others to do the same. The number of people who are awake and activated is growing, but too many remain blissfully ignorant - take a microphone and stand on a sidewalk asking random people who Joni Ernst is. Willing to bet that perhaps outside of Iowa, few will know.

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RunningLogic's avatar

💯

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Elaine Russky's avatar

True. Does anyone trust her?

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LuAnne's avatar

Have you noticed Joni Ernst's recent and sudden turnabout on Hegseth? She's been brutally exposed on X. Old videos posted of her mourning George Floyd, another video of her saying she's all for trans people in the military, and another video of her saying Trump should be held accountable for J6.

I think she's been afforded obscurity in the past but conservatives on X have outed her. This same level of pressure needs to happen to any GOP senator who thinks they know better than their constituents. Same for GOP Congress members.

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JT's avatar

Now, if those of us who don’t live in Kentucky can just figure out how to help McConnell retire…

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CMCM's avatar

The grim reaper will have to come collect him.

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Donna in MO's avatar

AMEN! Josh Hawley in MO had one post on FB about some hearing on the postal service shortly after he endorsed John Cornyn. Those of us in MO were fighting mad at this Establishment move, and his post about the post office had over 1500 comments, 90% of them blasting him for his support of Cornyn. I am sure he doesn't do his own social media, but am sure his aides shared that he wasn't getting a pass. Sad thing is, he JUST got re-elected so we are stuck with him for 6 years now.

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

The best part is she voted to confirm Lloyd Austin!!! LOLOLOL

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Absolutely.

The broken MSM no longer controls the narrative. Alternative information sources are ascending; no amount of pompous punditry is going to convince an irate public that their lived experience is a figment of their imagination. Journalisim has slipped its leash and is running amok.

They just don't quite get the power of "distributed swarm networks" that can blow their narrative up within minutes.

They're about to.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

May it be so, Ryan.

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Juju's avatar

I listen to Bongino every day

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FreeBird07's avatar

Me too!

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Annie's avatar

We are the media. 👍

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Susie & Security's avatar

Mary Ann, could you add a link to one of those threads? I'm looking but not finding... Thank you!

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Valerie's avatar

Right!

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Locke's Conscience's avatar

Excellent point...

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Thank you for reminding us about that.

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Help Needed in KS's avatar

"the Butler, PA shooter"

Who?

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

It was a response to Valerie Way Way Way up there. I had to follow the line clear to the top of the comments almost! LOL

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daverkb's avatar

This is an excellent question. Noticing 'irregularities' over time, things which seem to not fit or make sense, counts because patterns emerge only with elapsed time.

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Valerie's avatar

I have always been a person who notices patterns. I think most people have the ability if they cultivate it a little, even though the blob would rather we not be able to.

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daverkb's avatar

The blob teaches the right and wrong answer. Just that, either wholly right or totally wrong. Never think, never take mental risks, never notice patterns. Nope ... there's just a right answer or a wrong one. And once 'the system' has made people mentally binary by habit, it's so much easier to control the direction of the herd.

(But now there are cracks in this particular wall of habit. C19 terrorism has made some people wake up.)

Edit: Also, if one is right and has the solution to any given problem, one is pretty much cruizing one way down the avenue. But what is not taught is the value in being wrong. Because when one is wrong, one has to begin searching all over again for a proper solution. And then a whole new world of possibilities suddenly opens up. The value of being 'wrong' is that one has to go one a whole new hunt. And there is no telling what will turn up along the way. Mistakes are good so long as they are not lethal or permanently injurious.

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daverkb's avatar

Valerie ... what and where is your picture?

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Valerie's avatar

It’s a picture I took on vacation in Santorini in 2023. Spectacularly beautiful island.

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daverkb's avatar

I finally found it, and even on Google Earth. And it looks like there are actually two churches there. Or at least two towers. Very lovely. Still, I'd be rather nervous living on the rim of a caldera no matter how beautiful the surrounds are. And that island in the middle. I think that is the plug of the actual volcano. And I think the volcano is still listed as active~

https://luxurycolumnist.com/santorini-blue-domes/

4. Church of the Resurrection of the Lord, Imerovigli

One of the most famous blue domes in Santorini is the Resurrection of the Lord Holy Orthodox Church in Oia. Also known as Anastaseos church, its stunning backdrop of the Aegean Sea and the white-washed buildings make it the perfect location for capturing the perfect shot.

Thanks a lot. I like these little adventures much!

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Valerie's avatar

We took a hike from Fira to Oia and were walking along a ridge. It’s not as steep as it looks. Definitely one of the more beautiful things I’ve seen in my life.

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char's avatar

yes

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Carlos's avatar

Trust the science.

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Hektor Bleriot's avatar

Or the Las Vegas shooter

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Sherry 1's avatar

Yes. That has been BURIED. So it was probably a government hit. Same as the next try at the golf course. My brain just cannot accept what the bad guys do. Clean the swamp. Now.

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NofloChick's avatar

Yep, had the same thought.

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Cafe Comments by Lauri Harris's avatar

Has anyone noticed that Luigi Mangione’s manifesto about “greedy corporations” is the same manifesto as the bad guy, Hans Gruber, in the original Die Hard movie?

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Valerie's avatar

No, seriously?

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Cafe Comments by Lauri Harris's avatar

They both are trying to make greedy corporations pay.

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Cafe Comments by Lauri Harris's avatar

And they both kill the guy in charge of the corporation.

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