We have been in Syria for years. Now we are bombing who? For what? How do we attack and occupy nations that are no threat to us? Do we have a constitution? Is anybody sworn to support and defend it? Does anybody have surplus money to finance this mayhem? Are presidents empowered to attack nations/ assassinate the unliked?
How did we get here? Is trump going to change any of this?
Assad's wife has always been an enigma in the whole Syrian dictatorship narrative. UK-born, educated, investment banking background, biotech/biomedical background. Progressive and woke enough to fit in at any Upper East Side of Manhattan soire. Until narrative shifted around 2011.
The whole narrative has never fit right. Bashar would often appear on CNN and other western media interviews following 9-11 saying he and Syria were not our enemies, and listed area after area he was in agreement with US stated objectives. Claimed to be a proponent of expanding human rights in the ME. He sounded more sincere than the Obama-Clinton-Biden harpies.
All the world is a stage. And world leaders are actors. But the storyline of Syria and Assad has never sounded right.
Oh, did I mention that Bashar and his wife have extensive medical/pharma connections? As well as banking? You know, same connections building and financing the global medical tyranny agenda? Curious, no?
FF, I am not contesting your points, I just do not trust Wikipedia because there is no way to know who ‘owns’ the pages cited , nor any edits.
There is another piece to consider under the umbrella of “not making sense” - about a week ago The Duran posted a discussion with Alistair Cooke that was long and detailed. I may have misunderstood, my takeaway is that Erdogan is behind the ‘rebels’ toppling Assad regime, as part of his effort to rebuild The Caliphate.
I first heard about Erdogan’s efforts years ago on The John Batchelor Show, in discussion with analyst/academic Gregory Copley. (Haven’t listened to JB as much since he switched from WABC to CBS. Show not as unfiltered.)
I also saw video of Julian Assange reporting out that the most-highly funded C Y A project in the 2016 era was the toppling of Assad.
What a show. As I often see: “fear not, God is in control.”
Yep, Wiki is highly censored, propaganda runs thick on it. I read Wiki as state-approved information source. That said, for quick and dirty bios on persons of interest it’s one of the quickest, most concise and least full of bulky adware sources out there. I typically use it to get that quick and dirty, follow the links it sources, most of the time they are credible. And I pick up terms and areas of focus about the person that I didn’t know before, allow me to go off and do my own research on it.
The propaganda and censorship runs deepest on persons non-grata to the Deep State cabal, but if a fairly innocuous and non-controversial person or subject it’s generally informative…to go off and pursue better sources, deeper context. And often times the information about a person supported by the Deep State cabal is presented in a good, positive and virtuous thing that when read by opponents of the Deep State cabal is evidence and proof of their dastardly evil. They will often celebrate their evil as accomplishments they’re proud of.
All of that being known by Wiki readers, it’s possible to use the source for what it’s good at presenting, while disregarding or reinterpreting the information they present that is pure propaganda lies or pure spin of evil into virtue.
Re: Erdogan, he’s a dubious fellow. He came into power after the EU rejected Turkey’s overtures to join, his predecessor had long argued for inclusion of Turkey. Since Ataturk reconstructed Turkey into a secular, Western-looking nation following WWI, bloody purge of the Islamists, they had always looked west for their future. Even joined NATO, major US bases, forward projecting nuclear capabilities near the USSR. They had been allies with Israel, joint-military exercises. After Turkey’s attempts to join the EU were rejected they turned inward, elevated the Islamists like Erdogan to power and began looking East, to Russia, China. Turkey then surprisingly denied the Bush Crime Family Syndicate’s permission to invade Iraq from the north in W and Cheney’s criminal invasion of Iraq, major rejection that turned operation from a two-front invasion to just one front, allowed Saddam to escape north and hide, the nation to devolve into civil war and insurgency. Would’ve been sealed up quickly with that second front in Turkey been available.
But Turkey’s turn from the west to the east was the direct result of being rejected by the EU. Turkey’s belligerence towards former ally Israel some of the collateral damage. The EU said “No.” Turkey said, “Ok, F.U.” They still need US $$ and play the same dance with us as Pakistan and other hostile nations the US bribes. No loyalty, no shared values or ideals. Resentful dependence. The moment a better offer comes along they will switch sides. Actually very pragmatic. The west/US proved to be unreliable allies. Being friends with the US is dangerous for regimes the world over. Often more dangerous than being actual enemies.
If the Biden Regime is behind the overthrow of Assad, it can’t be good for America or World Peace. They just doused Syria with gasoline and waiting for “someone” to light the match. WW3 can’t come fast enough for the Biden Regime.
The US is an empire and all its wars are resource wars. The Syrian war started in 2011 was so an oil pipeline could be put in across the country. John Kerry admitted to congress that the Saudis paid for American troops to fight in Syria. He laughed and said it was a lot of money.
'Is Trump going to change any of this?'
Not if he wants to stay in office or alive. This war has been long planned.
Trump authorized the massacre of Putin's personal army in 2018 during the battle of Conoco fields. There's utility in controlling syria for the new pipeline which will bring gas to europe instead of Russia.
Syria was a meat grinder for the Russians and they managed to turn it around and save Assad in 2012-2014. Problem is their Ukraine adventure sucked their peripheral forces away so they had no munitions, troops, or airpower to save Bashar. Ohwell.
We have been in Syria for years. Now we are bombing who? For what? How do we attack and occupy nations that are no threat to us? Do we have a constitution? Is anybody sworn to support and defend it? Does anybody have surplus money to finance this mayhem? Are presidents empowered to attack nations/ assassinate the unliked?
How did we get here? Is trump going to change any of this?
Assad's wife has always been an enigma in the whole Syrian dictatorship narrative. UK-born, educated, investment banking background, biotech/biomedical background. Progressive and woke enough to fit in at any Upper East Side of Manhattan soire. Until narrative shifted around 2011.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asma_al-Assad
The whole narrative has never fit right. Bashar would often appear on CNN and other western media interviews following 9-11 saying he and Syria were not our enemies, and listed area after area he was in agreement with US stated objectives. Claimed to be a proponent of expanding human rights in the ME. He sounded more sincere than the Obama-Clinton-Biden harpies.
All the world is a stage. And world leaders are actors. But the storyline of Syria and Assad has never sounded right.
Oh, did I mention that Bashar and his wife have extensive medical/pharma connections? As well as banking? You know, same connections building and financing the global medical tyranny agenda? Curious, no?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bashar_al-Assad
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fawaz_Akhras
FF, I am not contesting your points, I just do not trust Wikipedia because there is no way to know who ‘owns’ the pages cited , nor any edits.
There is another piece to consider under the umbrella of “not making sense” - about a week ago The Duran posted a discussion with Alistair Cooke that was long and detailed. I may have misunderstood, my takeaway is that Erdogan is behind the ‘rebels’ toppling Assad regime, as part of his effort to rebuild The Caliphate.
I first heard about Erdogan’s efforts years ago on The John Batchelor Show, in discussion with analyst/academic Gregory Copley. (Haven’t listened to JB as much since he switched from WABC to CBS. Show not as unfiltered.)
I also saw video of Julian Assange reporting out that the most-highly funded C Y A project in the 2016 era was the toppling of Assad.
What a show. As I often see: “fear not, God is in control.”
NEVER trust Wikipedia
Yep, Wiki is highly censored, propaganda runs thick on it. I read Wiki as state-approved information source. That said, for quick and dirty bios on persons of interest it’s one of the quickest, most concise and least full of bulky adware sources out there. I typically use it to get that quick and dirty, follow the links it sources, most of the time they are credible. And I pick up terms and areas of focus about the person that I didn’t know before, allow me to go off and do my own research on it.
The propaganda and censorship runs deepest on persons non-grata to the Deep State cabal, but if a fairly innocuous and non-controversial person or subject it’s generally informative…to go off and pursue better sources, deeper context. And often times the information about a person supported by the Deep State cabal is presented in a good, positive and virtuous thing that when read by opponents of the Deep State cabal is evidence and proof of their dastardly evil. They will often celebrate their evil as accomplishments they’re proud of.
All of that being known by Wiki readers, it’s possible to use the source for what it’s good at presenting, while disregarding or reinterpreting the information they present that is pure propaganda lies or pure spin of evil into virtue.
Re: Erdogan, he’s a dubious fellow. He came into power after the EU rejected Turkey’s overtures to join, his predecessor had long argued for inclusion of Turkey. Since Ataturk reconstructed Turkey into a secular, Western-looking nation following WWI, bloody purge of the Islamists, they had always looked west for their future. Even joined NATO, major US bases, forward projecting nuclear capabilities near the USSR. They had been allies with Israel, joint-military exercises. After Turkey’s attempts to join the EU were rejected they turned inward, elevated the Islamists like Erdogan to power and began looking East, to Russia, China. Turkey then surprisingly denied the Bush Crime Family Syndicate’s permission to invade Iraq from the north in W and Cheney’s criminal invasion of Iraq, major rejection that turned operation from a two-front invasion to just one front, allowed Saddam to escape north and hide, the nation to devolve into civil war and insurgency. Would’ve been sealed up quickly with that second front in Turkey been available.
But Turkey’s turn from the west to the east was the direct result of being rejected by the EU. Turkey’s belligerence towards former ally Israel some of the collateral damage. The EU said “No.” Turkey said, “Ok, F.U.” They still need US $$ and play the same dance with us as Pakistan and other hostile nations the US bribes. No loyalty, no shared values or ideals. Resentful dependence. The moment a better offer comes along they will switch sides. Actually very pragmatic. The west/US proved to be unreliable allies. Being friends with the US is dangerous for regimes the world over. Often more dangerous than being actual enemies.
Politics aside, she's one of the most beautiful woman around.
https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/asma-al-assad
The big money gangsters, both foreign and domestic, always hire lovely arm candy.
Well, not all of them. Here's Chuck Schumer's arm candy.
https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/iris-weinshall
No wonder he's bitter and evil
OMG, that was low. But I loved it! 😆
Eh. She's pretty, but not all that.
She's rich. And well-connected in the upper strata of European society. That's more important than looks. Though good looks don't hurt.
She's pretty, but she can't hold a candle to our Melania.
Just like Russia. Somehow, US/UK make out they - a white Christian country - is the enemy
We are getting very close to the point where we need to declare dc the enemy of Americans, and do that which should have been done decades ago.
If the Biden Regime is behind the overthrow of Assad, it can’t be good for America or World Peace. They just doused Syria with gasoline and waiting for “someone” to light the match. WW3 can’t come fast enough for the Biden Regime.
Excellent but there's no "if" about it. The US Intel / Military Industrial Complex absolutely ran this coup.
Walks like a duck, etc....
Later Jay
It wasn't a coup, it was a revolution. The US had no part in it-it was the Turks.
Turkey is backing HTS and they are in opposition to the US backed SDF/FSA which occupy the east.
And just like that, and key part of The Greater Israel Project, starts to fall into the place….
The US is an empire and all its wars are resource wars. The Syrian war started in 2011 was so an oil pipeline could be put in across the country. John Kerry admitted to congress that the Saudis paid for American troops to fight in Syria. He laughed and said it was a lot of money.
'Is Trump going to change any of this?'
Not if he wants to stay in office or alive. This war has been long planned.
Trump authorized the massacre of Putin's personal army in 2018 during the battle of Conoco fields. There's utility in controlling syria for the new pipeline which will bring gas to europe instead of Russia.
Syria was a meat grinder for the Russians and they managed to turn it around and save Assad in 2012-2014. Problem is their Ukraine adventure sucked their peripheral forces away so they had no munitions, troops, or airpower to save Bashar. Ohwell.
Yep, not believable that we'd be doing anything out of the goodness of our hearts. ALL about the resources.....Oil. Black Gold. Texas Tea.
Y'all come back now, y'hear?!
Keep paying your taxes..... It's all about what you said and the old spice route and trying to maintain hegemony.
Pull in the ores and let's become and island again.
Later Jay
Who cares? Russia took a major L and Putin has egg on his face..again.
Trump massacred Putin's private army during the battle of conoco fields in 18.
It's been a massive drain on Russian operations since they were able to save Assad.