I can't think of a proper use or a just use for taking someone's money or property without a judicial verdict. However, if an accepted pardon implies guilt, then sieze away!
When they accept a pardon they willingly surrender their Constitutionally guaranteed rights to a trial. If they refuse the pardon they are granted said rights.
If he had been proved to rob the bank, yes. If the bank can prove it is their money, which should lead to conviction of some crime, yes. And if a pardon implies guilt for a specific crime, the proceeds of that crime should be returned.
But administrative asset forfeiture is none of that. No specific crime need be stated, no victim to whom the valuables returned. The state just takes the money, and you have to sue to get it back. Your lawyer costs aren't refunded.
For the first time, I may just like the idea of Civil Asset Forfeiture!
Used properly and justly I agree.
I can't think of a proper use or a just use for taking someone's money or property without a judicial verdict. However, if an accepted pardon implies guilt, then sieze away!
When they accept a pardon they willingly surrender their Constitutionally guaranteed rights to a trial. If they refuse the pardon they are granted said rights.
What does asset forfeiture have to do with Constitutionally guaranteed right to a trial or any other Constitutional right? It is a naked money grab.
If Hunter robbed a bank, a federal offense, now that he has been pardoned do you think the bank has no right to have the money returned to them?
If he had been proved to rob the bank, yes. If the bank can prove it is their money, which should lead to conviction of some crime, yes. And if a pardon implies guilt for a specific crime, the proceeds of that crime should be returned.
But administrative asset forfeiture is none of that. No specific crime need be stated, no victim to whom the valuables returned. The state just takes the money, and you have to sue to get it back. Your lawyer costs aren't refunded.
Thinking most every cent is off-shore or not in Biden Crime Family named accounts. They are not stupid.