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The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

The very notion that we have to fight it out - with our own government mind you - to ensure that only American citizens can vote in America should give even the dimmest fence-sitting blob a moment of pause....maybe even reflection. Gasp! Anyone who thinks this is a controversial and/or haphazard ideology should unconditionally police their belongings, i.e goats, hijabs, ill-gotten gains and anti-American sentiments and book the next flight out of here. Thanks for the memories.

Jeff S's avatar

"I'm shocked! Shocked to find that gambling is going on in here." - Casablanca

The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

I, too, am appalled. 🤣

Don Reed's avatar

03/07/26: “Iran’s president orders his own military to stop attacking neighbors, and the IRGC responds by attacking two more countries … The Iranian side is collapsing like a cheap folding chair under a gender studies major.”

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Davey J's avatar

Yes that was brilliant writing :) I live in a city with a lot of gender studies students and I confirm the chairs are not happy.

striketheroot's avatar

Pretty well explains the world's finpolitics (financial politics) today from the time of Babylonia's invention of "the system". But the blame is not simply on the money changers (cough cough), as Martin Armstrong always says: "human nature never changes" and that is why we have predictable cycles in human history.

EK MtnTime's avatar

Such a great film…and Robert Redford before he went full-on looney leftist.

Jeff S's avatar

Redford? That movie was before his time, I think.

EK MtnTime's avatar

I don’t know why when I saw Casablanca I was thinking of The Sting with Redford and Newman! I’ll just blame it on a lack of enough caffeine! 😂

Jeff S's avatar

The Sting is good, too!

Garden Lover's avatar

I’m surrounded by those idiots here in So Cal. A positive outcome is that I have previously progressive friends slowly coming around. One of them has started posting links to how communists have taken over our universities and that’s why we have these young kids believing the way they do. I’ve been saying this to a group of progressive friends for the past five years. He even admitted he thought I was a little cuckoo for believing that, but he apologized (I didn’t care. I’ve been called worse, and I knew I was right, so.) and agreed with me. I think he’s participated in the “No Kings” protests, or, at the very least, his wife has.

Baby steps.

RunningLogic's avatar

That’s encouraging !

Proberta's avatar

Every bad thing that has happened to Iran since the end of WW2, the wars, the dictators, the oppression, the invasions, the Mullahs, has all been orchestrated and manipulated by City of London, using their private military force, the U.S.

All because Iran kicked British Petroleum out of Iranian oil fields after WW2. So City of London, the financial headquarters of the Evil, had the U.S. overthrow that Iranian government and gave Iraq everything it needed to invade Iran. Forcing decades of war and oppression onto the Iranian people.


British Petroleum is coming for Iranian oil. And when the Iranians started building weapons, Trump imposed sanctions on them.

And when they persisted Trump bombed them.

Larry Johnson did a good outline titled:

"Iran Does Not Hate Americans… But it Has Legitimate Reasons to Do So"

https://larrycjohnson.substack.com/p/iran-does-not-hate-americans-but?

And the Reese Report, concise and short!

https://gregreese.substack.com/p/blowback-of-piracy?utm_source=podcast-email&publication_id=706779&post_id=189573404&utm_campaign=email-play-on-substack&utm_content=watch_now_gif&r=pqirh&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

Merry McIntyre's avatar

It’s the British Empire!!! According to Promethian Action on YouTube. It makes sense that the British Empire has been doing its best to take down the US since the Revolutionary War. The City of London controls MI6, the CIA & MOSSAD. Today it was just revealed that there was a foiled Iranian assassination attempt on Trump during his campaign. Who knew about this? The man involved just went to trial & was found guilty. Was Obama behind it? Check this out: https://tierneyrealnewsnetwork.substack.com/p/obama-mourns-the-ayatollah?r=x4jy&utm_medium=ios

Jane Tracy's avatar

I recently found Promethian Action. They have a deep understanding of history and explain it all on their podcast and newsletter

Richard Whitney's avatar

I think this guy must be one of them. This is a really good explanation of that which we usually find baffling. We find it baffling, just like the doctors find vaccine injuries baffling, because we are not told the truth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sehmmzbi3UI&t=1s

Mrs. RW

Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I subscribed to the Promethean Action Substack after J. C. mentioned them here about 2-3 months ago. I did some independent research on their progenitor - and it turns out it's a "rebranding" of the PAC that was created by a repetitive indy candidate for POTUS during the late 20th century and early 21st century, LYNDON LaROUCHE. https://factually.co/fact-checks/politics/what-is-promethean-action-who-funds-leads-54be0f

I like Promethean's deep diving into the 'special relationship' the USA has had over the past 250 years with Great Britain and how the 'grand puppeteers' ALL HAIL from the U.K. TRUTH!!

JEHOVAH JIREH--He HAS, He does, He WILL!

Truth Seeker's avatar

Her assessment is prescient and well stated. Promethian Action is a great name derived from the legend of Prometheus...

CHop's avatar

Thank you for this. It confirms my suspicions that the assassination attempt was one that was planned, but taken over by the Trump team and carried out to work in his favor. I think it was the greatest Political Marketing move ever as it shifted many on the fence (Vance-RFK added and then RNC right after)

Richard Whitney's avatar

I looked it up, because I thought that BP still could pump Iran's oil, it just had to pay them more. Kind of like in Venezuela with US oil companies.

This sounds familiar.

"In early 1951, the Shah and the British lost control of Iranian politics. On March 15, with overwhelming popular support, the Majlis voted unanimously to nationalize AIOC's assets, creating the National Iranian Oil Company. On April 28 the Majlis overwhelmingly elected Mossadegh – Anglo-Iranian's strongest opponent– as prime minister.

The British sought revenge. Anglo-Iranian removed all of its managers and technicians (it had refused to train Iranians for such positions.) It refused to ship Iran's oil in its tankers (Iran owned none) and organized a global boycott of Iran's oil. The British navy even seized an Italian tanker carrying Iranian oil. The British position was that Iran had "stolen" its oil. They wanted U.S. help, but President Harry Truman was sympathetic to Iran and demanded that the British negotiate with Mossadegh – something they had no intention of doing. Truman, however was unwilling to buck the British economic blockade of Iran, which was strangling its economy and tightening the screws on its democracy."

But the British stranglehold on Iran started long before WW2.

"In 1902 his son, the next shah, sold exclusive rights to Iran's oil and natural gas to a London financier, William Knox D'Arcy. A group of British investors formed the Anglo-Persian Oil Company (APOC) to exploit what was called the D'Arcy concession. By 1913 Anglo-Persian was extracting huge amounts of Iranian oil and had built the world's largest oil refinery at Abadan.........Oil workers at the Abadan refinery – whose labor was largely responsible for Britain's prosperity – were paid 50 cents a day with no benefits. They lived in a shantytown called Kaghazabad (Persian for "Paper City") with no running water or electricity, surrounded by mud, stagnant water, and biting flies."

https://www.ueunion.org/ue-news-feature/2010/bp-a-long-bloody-history-of-reckless-greed

Mrs. RW

Suzanne's avatar

It’s always more convenient to paint the US as the bogeyman than to go after the Brits, where the original problem started. Greedy Brits now feigning shock over the US doing its dirty work.

Richard Whitney's avatar

Yes, I was just responding to Proberta's comment. But yeah, I left out the violent coup of 1953.

Mrs. RW

Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

Interesting bit of history, was never taught any Middle East history, high school that I can remember 🤔. Really only know that last 50 yrs, & that is from my memory of events. Thanks for posting.

Jack Bergeron's avatar

Another instance of meddling in other countries’ internal affairs with long lasting disastrous consequences. I have grave doubts our current “not war/war” will over the long term end well.

Lynne Morris's avatar

Some of this is true. The CIA was complicit in the overthrow of Iranian leadership that nationalized it's oil interest. Apparently there is a declassified analysis of this action detailing boatloads of US/CIA cash distributed by Saint Roosevelt's grandson to secure on the ground support. But Ilmany Iranians, including the "student protesters" who supported the overthrow of the dynasty installed by the CIA. And yes the Brits are still at it. Their geographical empire may have shrunk but their financial one reigns supreme and will not go down without a fight. Apparently the US is going to bail out Lloyd's now. It is ehat worries me about Trump - he is as New York WASP as they come. That being said he is in position to right the wrongs committed in Iran in the 50s. Regime change must occur -for the benefit of all concerned - but once the regime is toppled it must be the Iranian people who select their new leadership. Iran, or more accurately Persia, is an ancient and noble culture. Many ideals we recognize as the foundation of western civilization and her much lauded freedoms arose there. He'll, our languages trace back there too.

Leskunque Lepew's avatar

Nice...but its more a Sunni/ Shiite thing with the US & Israel doing the dirty work for the Sunnis ( Saudi Arabia ) again.

Truth Seeker's avatar

The explanation may be accurate from a how it degenerated lens.

On to solving the problem: The regime treats women worse than slaves and justifies.

That is absolute savagery. The economics of oil lags far behind on the world stage.

The City of L, very likely circles the bowl. Iran is a country, it does not hate.

The people of Iran are subjects. Widespread worldwide support for the takedown.

War is horrible. There are no winners, only those who loose less.

Proberta's avatar

"There are no winners"

Except for whoever ends up with Iran's oil fields.

Truth Seeker's avatar

Nah, the oil is a decoy... This country has more reserves and...

we are on the cusp of re-discovering free energy...

Proberta's avatar

Whoever ends up with Iran's oil is the winner.

Truth Seeker's avatar

a very simple assessment that someone is stuck on...

Torrance Stephens's avatar

Thanks & newsflash - The media is, in fact, the enemy of the people.

The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Yes, and if it were ONLY the media….

john's avatar

More truth to consider https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-mLU170eEk.

Pray for peace -- will take divine intervention to end the unprovoked attack on Iran quickly enough to avoid major damage to our country and the world.

WP William's avatar

I pondered ColoRATo Elections with our Secretary of Hate Office and the SAVE Act. Federal Elections occur every 2 years so that could nullify much of the monkey business, but what about if we also ensure that a safe district Republican Congressional Dist. requires a special election on the off-year cycle without fail just to force it to be a Federal Election as well? The risk of course is that Repub Voters (esp the dwindling number in CO) simply sit home like the brain-dead, uninvolved morons they usually are, and allow a safe district to flip to BLUE.

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TriTorch's avatar

By Jamie Dale-Jensen

Hallelujah…

Many people say this word without thinking about it. It has become a general religious expression. A worship word. Sometimes even just a way of saying “thank God.” But the Bible is much more precise.

“Hallelujah” is Hebrew. הַלְלוּ־יָהּ. Hallelu-Yah. The word has two parts. The verb הללו (halĕlū) is from the Hebrew root הלל (halal). It means to praise, boast, celebrate, or make known. But the form here is important. It is an imperative plural.

It is not “I praise.” It is not “praise if you feel like it.” It is a command. “Praise!” And because it is plural, it means, “You all praise.” “Everyone praise.” “Let all praise.”

The second part is יה (Yah), which is a shortened form of the divine name YHWH. So the phrase literally means, “Praise Yah.” Or more fully, “Everyone praise Yahweh.”

This is not a vague spiritual statement. It is not generic praise. It is not praise directed toward whatever someone personally believes about God. It is very specific. It is a command to praise the God of Israel.

Interestingly, the Bible does not scatter this word randomly. It appears mostly in one place. The Book of Psalms. Especially at the end.

Psalm 146 “Hallelujah.”

Psalm 147 “Hallelujah.”

Psalm 148 “Hallelujah.”

Psalm 149 “Hallelujah.”

Psalm 150 “Hallelujah.”

Each of these psalms both begins and ends with it, like a frame around the song. The book of Israel’s worship closes with a cascade of praise commands.

But the word appears one more time in Scripture. At the end of the story. In Revelation 19. And this is fascinating…

The New Testament is written in Greek. Most Hebrew words are translated. But this one is not. The Greek text simply carries the Hebrew sound forward.

“Hallelujah.”

And in Revelation it is not spoken by a psalmist. It is spoken by heaven.

“After this I heard what sounded like the roar of a great multitude in heaven shouting:

Hallelujah! Salvation and glory and power belong to our God.” — Revelation 19:1

The praise that began on earth in the Psalms ends in heaven in Revelation. The same word. The same command. Praise Yah.

So when we say “hallelujah,” we are repeating one of the oldest praise cries in Scripture. A Hebrew command that has passed unchanged through thousands of years of worship.

Not just a feeling. Not just an expression. A call. Praise Yah.

Hallelujah.

SHug's avatar

Thank you Tritorch. Beautiful.

Hallelujah! Salvation and glory and power belong to our God.” Indeed.

Deb's avatar

Yes, thank you Tritorch! And AMEN!

Patty's avatar

AMEN also has not been translated.

Fran Tabor's avatar

It mean, so be it or yes

MaryAnn's avatar

Thanks TT❤️

I wonder if Lenard Cohen knew that when he wrote his Hallelujah.

That song moves me to tears everytime. Now I know why!🙏🏻

TriTorch's avatar

I hope so =) If you haven’t heard these renditions I think you may like them MaryAnn (too hard to choose one so i’ll send you all):

https://youtu.be/dLk9pzmaFHY

https://youtu.be/bINTLARJUOM

https://youtu.be/WaMNDpNqQ2s

https://youtu.be/5irWewNTT5A?t=30

S.P.H.'s avatar

Well TT, you sucked me into hours of listening, the tube knows my weakness and throws suggestions at me I can't refuse. Your quartet of selections were outstanding.

A long while back I researched Leonard Cohen just because of this song. In my research I learned that Mr. Cohen had many verses and sometimes would use a verse at a presentation no one hard heard before. The original song was not received with the acclaim the revised song achieved. It's a fun study to take the verses and match them to well known stories in the Bible. No New Testament verses though.

It was obvious to me that Mr. Cohen put his entire soul and perhaps life struggle into this song and the music. Few writers and singers have done that with such great results. Mr. Cohen's familiarity with scripture was clearly shown. The struggle with keeping the Mosaic law is evident. Using David as a central theme reflects his own struggle with being a admirer of God, and being a man. I sometimes see David as bi-polar, one moment being at the height of love for God, then seeing him call out to God for help and compassion in his loneliness.

I think many Jews are at that place, being in the family of the Messiah they long for, but not able to see He came, reached out, and asked them to follow Him. Did Mr. Cohen suffer with that struggle? Did he find the Jew, Jesus, as his savior? I hope so. I do know the gift he was given has impacted me, and probably thousands if not millions around the world.

Why this song isn't played, the chords are beautiful, and sung in church surprises me a bit. Yes, it has adult themes, all Biblical though. Are we not to study the whole word of God? That said, #3 on your song list is very powerful. Especially as we approach Resurrection Sunday. I will listen to that version again and again.

If I may suggest a song for you in return. Vastly different genre, same soulful depth and cry for redemption and thanks. Ben Fuller, Black Sheep: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpM0XYPfHnw

TriTorch's avatar

Wonderful reply and insight, thank you S.P.H, I hope Mr. Cohen found Him. Thank you for the song, it isn't my kind of music, but I did read the lyrics from version II of it. This is so powerful and sad and yet so true:

I've seen things a child should never ever see | The only vision for your future is what you'll never be | They rob you of your innocence demons don't let you sleep | Then grow up and become the very demons you weren't tryna' be

That is an SOS. Hallelujah, come and rescue our souls Jesus Christ!

Maureen ODH's avatar

“By some interpretations, Cohen is in an argument with God. King David’s “hallelujah,” in the book of Psalms, is said to have pleased the Lord. Cohen addresses God: “But you don’t really care for music, do you?”

For others, we talk about the evolution of a relationship through a metaphor that mixes sex and religion.

Cohen originally wrote around 80 verses of the song, and used a different selection of the verses in the original recording and in a 1988 live performance.

The song wasn’t all that popular when it first came out. However, it was covered by John Cale, in 1991, for a tribute album. He used the modified lyrics, based on Cohen’s 1988 live version. Jeff Buckley heard Cale’s version and did his own cover on his 1994 album Grace. Buckley’s version went on to become the most well-known recording of the song.

Since then, the song was covered over 300 times. It is today emblematic and figures among a multitude of film soundtracks and television shows. It became a contemporary standard. Many versions change the lyrics, especially Christian versions that tone down all the ambiguities of the song… one of the most beautiful renditions by the infamous K.D. Lang.”

MayBella82's avatar

I ❤️❤️❤️the 3rd one. First time hearing it!

MrsW's avatar

Love the 3rd one! Brought me to tears, what Jesus suffered for His love for us.

MaryAnn's avatar

Thank you for these links. Did not know The Diamond did a version ❤️

Have been watching House of David on Prime. Good series.🙏🏻

AKgrrrl's avatar

PS. I really like the accapella version by Pentatonix

TriTorch's avatar

I like it too =)

AKgrrrl's avatar

TriTorch the REAL influencer. I just love love love all of you on this thread. What a great group of humans with whom to exchange thoughts.

TriTorch's avatar

That is very kind, thank you AKgrrrl!

Did you get a chance to read that football article, by chance?

Jessica Funk's avatar

I hope you can open the Vimeo link, no idea why this is the only platform that supports this beautiful song??!!

Jessica Funk's avatar

I love reading Jeff’s comment section and you always have something great to share. I don’t typically comment but this was a fabulous post. I have to share my favorite version of Hallelujah, a Christmas appropriate song:

https://vimeo.com/142527218

Sierra Carr's avatar

I love her posts! Thank you for sharing her Tri.

Julie's avatar

Hallelujah, Amen!!

CStone's avatar

Hallelujah!!!!

Donna Oliphint's avatar

This gave me goosebumps! Thank you!

Bard Joseph's avatar

Hallelujah. We are running out of weapons. That may stop the murder of the innocent.

cltwilson1's avatar

Do you mean obstetric surgical instruments? They indeed can be used to slaughter the innocent. 🧐

Jane Tracy's avatar

I find that very saddening…..

Bard Joseph's avatar

Abortion is free in the Trotskyite country.

John S's avatar

Read a book, Bard.

Lena Grammer's avatar

Thank you so much for sharing this!

Jimmy Gauvin's avatar

I hate to say this but Hallelujah has a striking ressemblance to alahu akbar.

Given the linguistic connection between Arabic and Hebrew, the phrases "Hallelujah" (הללויה) and "Allahu Akbar" (الله أكبر) do show some interesting similarities.

Breaking it down:

- "Hallelujah" (הללויה) means "Praise Yahweh" (Hebrew).

- "Allahu Akbar" (الله أكبر) means "God is Greatest" (Arabic).

They share a common Semitic root, with "Hallel" (praise) and "Allah" (God) being somewhat analogous in structure and sound. The phrases convey different meanings but have a similar sonic and rhythmic quality.

linguistic coincidence ?

SHug's avatar

Strangely, when you hear "Hallelujah" shouted, you don't have people exploding themselves and others.

However, when you hear "Allahu Akbar", you will see people trying to run or duck for cover.

They are not the same, even though the word roots may have started out very similar.

The first one is a message for LOVE and praise of the Glory of God. The second should also be, but has instead been twisted and turned into a murderous rampage of rage - supposedly done in the name of God, though there is nothing godly about some young person blowing himself up and wasting the life with which he was blessed.

Wars in the "name of God" have been a plague on this earth and are only for and by man, for the gain of only a few men.

Shelle's avatar

Also, we tend to see similarities between ancient middle east societies when they themselves saw each other as quite distinct.

And Islam came so much later than the Psalms. Cults tend to take familiar religious words and redefine them. So even if they did that here, which is uncertain, the meaning wouldn't be at all the same with these two words.

Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

Yes, an excellent example of a cult changing the meaning of words would be the word “vaccine”

Tom's avatar

"The Science (TM)"

Tio Nico's avatar

When one considers the character and nature o the One who made everything including us, the God o the bible/torah, then conrast this with the phoney vain imagination those o the koran worship, the contvas between the two terms under discussion now make sense. All that is good and right and just, agains death, misery, destruction, domination,

I will stick to the crowd o whom halleluja pertains.

CStone's avatar

allah is a pagan god.

Darby O'Gill's avatar

Indeed....the false moon god of the ancient Arabs.

Anthony S Burkett's avatar

Let's not forget that the Jew and the Arab are ethnically both "Semitic" peoples... and that the root of Islam is a result of the abandonment of Hagar and Ishmael into the wilderness by Abraham at the demands of Sarah.

God told Abraham: “As for Ishmael, I have heard you: I will surely bless him; I will make him fruitful and will greatly increase his numbers. He will be the father of twelve rulers, and I will make him into a great nation” (Genesis 17:20).

Merely a "Linguistic coincidence"?... I think not.

S.P.H.'s avatar

Mostly accurate Anthony. The blood of the Jew is carried through the mother. Hagar was not Jewish.

You are correct that God showed great compassion to the half brother of Issac, and his mother. The first example of the older serving the younger? It also shows that God is merciful and will not go back on His promises. If God changed His mind about the covenant made with Abram then the cross means nothing.

The battle we see today between Islam and Judeo-Christanity is due to lack of faith of Sariah, and Abram, in the promise of God, that they would have a child .

Anthony S Burkett's avatar

I didn't say that Hagar was Jewish, nor did I mean to imply that Hagar was Jewish... I said that "the Jew and the Arab are ethnically both "Semitic" peoples"... and that "the root of Islam is a result of the abandonment of Hagar and Ishmael into the wilderness by Abraham at the demands of Sarah"... I also believe that is the root of the conflict between Arabs and Jews... wrt the difficulties between Arabs and the West... that's an entirely different story that has to do with the double-dealing of the British that started with the McMahon–Hussein Correspondence and continued with the Sykes–Picot Agreement of 1916 and the Balfour Declaration of 1917... but that is going from a family feud to a political feud.

Shelle's avatar

Islam came so very much later than the writing of the Psalms. Cults tend to take familiar religious words and redefine them. So even if they did that here, which is uncertain, the meaning wouldn't be at all the same with these two words.

Anthony S Burkett's avatar

It's a fact that an enormous time span separates the two writings... but speaking only of the two words, I look at it as a case of "Tomato (to-MAY-to), Tomato (to-MAH-to)... I believe the true intent is with the speaker.

kittynana's avatar

@Jimmy- Jews and Muslims have so much in common I sometimes find it very difficult to see why they hate each other so much.

Lisa Runquist's avatar

Actually akbar in Hebrew means "rodent" or "mouse". So what they are saying is Allah is a rodent. Lolol

S.P.H.'s avatar

I believe Tri T was succinct in defining Hallelujah, the word containing the name of God, Yah. In Islam, they do not know the name of the entity they follow as a god. Allah is a title of a leader much like King, Pharaoh or President. Constantly changing through the ages.

Islam is defined as submission. Cut and dried, no love no compassion. Follow the law or die. Allah did not give his life in a public manner to save his adherents. He did not rise from a grave. Allah was and is not real. A vapor, no beginning no end no burial.

Islam does know the person they call Muhammad, a prophet, a warrior. Muhammad lived, died and was buried but did not rise from his grave. Thus Muslims worship a grave, a dead prophet. The annual Hajj for all capable Muslims. Now it would be beneficial to mention the Sunni / Shia divide. We are seeing this play out right now in the Middle East. Worthy of study also is the Mahdi.

Mitch's avatar

the difference is one doesn't scare you to death when you hear it in a plane.

Suzanne's avatar

So good! Thank you! 🙏🏻

Garden Lover's avatar

Although I never knew the history of it, I have always understood “hallelujah” to be exactly that: praise God. I know the secular world has tried to co-opt it, but it hasn’t changed the meaning, and, every time someone says it, whether they know it or not, they praise God.

Bgagnon's avatar

Thank you Tri Torch for this wondrous explanation! ❤️

Heather Sheen's avatar

Every morning I get the euphoric high of having the news properly explained to me by Jeff, and then the disgusted low of wishing more of my friends read C&C too. 😄

Jeffrey N. Gratton's avatar

We have permission to see the world as you or I see fit.

Our perceptions, namely, our beliefs, change the Universe.

Day after day, Jeff brings us a credible distillation and analysis. I go for it. I choose it.

And I am happier and more positive because of it.

And Jeff's analysis has proved itself valid more than any other source I know of.

Johnny-O's avatar

Like the lies he fed on day one, about Iran being unwilling to state they don't want a nuclear weapon, which they are on record repeatedly saying? Yeah, stellar reporting here.

Donna B's avatar

They are also on the record for their lies repeatedly. Their actions proved otherwise. Actions speak louder than words.

Johnny-O's avatar

Oh really, where are the nukes? Just like Iraq - where are the WMDs. I mean, GWB even joked about it at a gala after the fact. But the fools will continue to believe the liars. Mind boggling.

Donna B's avatar

Ok I’ll bite - where are you getting your sources? Do you see their missile stash raking havoc on their neighbors? Do you think if they got nukes they wouldn’t use them on Israel and the US?

Beckadee's avatar

You head is just fine.

CHUCKY's avatar

Dear Donna,

Please get your head examined.

Love,

Chuck

Willing Spirit's avatar

Kamala lost…boo hoo! And the ayatollah is dead! Boo, hoo, hoo!

mspring's avatar

"They don't want a nuclear weapon" Ha! A bald faced lie, excellent example of taqiyya, perhaps the best, and verifiable as lie to anyone who has followed their uranium enhancement (relentless to weapons grade purity, and hidden under mountains). The amount of money they squandered building those deep facilities, neglecting their country and it's people in the process is mind boggling! And you take them at their word????

CHUCKY's avatar

If they'd wanted a nuke, they'd have one by now. After all, Ears Nutjobyahoo had been warning that they were 6 weeks away since 1996.

People need to WAKE UP.

Deb's avatar

Why don't you just go away and spew your ugliness somewhere else?

Johnny-O's avatar

truth = ugliness

war = peace

mspring's avatar

War=peace, a tell: Dar al-Harb (House of War) and Dar al-Islam (House of Islam). House of war is the rest of the world, house of peace is Islamic society. They get to house of peace through war, have been since 610ad.

CHUCKY's avatar

Yes, Johnny. Don't harsh Pollyanna Deb's mellow.

CStone's avatar

Why don’t you move back to your home country?

No one wants you Muslims here.

Jeffrey N. Gratton's avatar

AS IF ... your special brand of depression and 'superior' knowledge ... convinces us of anything

Keith Jajko's avatar

Insufferable is the word that comes to mind. Sad, depressed, always angry, pathetic people.

SHug's avatar
Mar 7Edited

Ooops, someone forgot to flush the johnny when they pooped, now it's sitting there full of poop, stinking up the place.

Tiny basket of deplorable's avatar

Shug🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Bard Joseph's avatar

Praise from Caesar is praise indeed.

Tio Nico's avatar

who is Sees her?

Janet's avatar

Ugh. So true. I almost walked out of my coffee group this morning when they were all cackling about whatever miasma of lies they were being poisoned by. I tried to add something but they talked completely over me. I’m sick of them personally. Really. I don’t care if I ever see them again right now. There is another group of those kind on Wednesday for a lunch. This time their behavior will decide if I ever go again. Self righteousness oozes out of them.

MaryAnn's avatar

Janet—I hear you. Life really is too short to subject yourself to total disregard where your thoughts are ignored or dis’d. I had to walk away from similar folks. Now, with distance of time and geography, I can read their posts on SM, say a prayer for them and thank God for the courage He gave and continues to give me to not engage. 🙏🏻

Bard Joseph's avatar

Truth is the first casualty of war.

Just long enough to flatten the curve.

Johnny-O's avatar

He's currently regurgitating mainstream media and government propaganda. People are going to be shocked if they every learn the full scale of how badly the war is actually going.

Joanie Higgs's avatar

Time to buzz off with your black pills, Johnny. You're over-representing yourself in the comments.

RJ Rambler's avatar

Do not feed the animals. You can shoot them by tapping their name and tap 3 dots in rt corner and BLOCK. It's very peaceful.

Susan Seas's avatar

I now glance at names before reading comments and scroll by several. I appreciate this suggestion I didn’t know was possible. I like to get others viewpoints but some of these are just …

CStone's avatar

Johnny-Zero and the bard are both Muslims

CHUCKY's avatar

And you're a retard, CStone.

CeCe Brown's avatar

Thanks for info. I want to do it but i get some entertainment and a shot of feel good after catching my breath from laughing at him. I love the snap backs other give him. I will prbably get tired of it and will use the 3 dot stragegy. Not yet, im still wiping the tears from my eyes and holding my belly. Do you think he is a real person? I know i had a heated conversation with a Tucker Carlson customer service AI who was a little snarky and slightly rude. The return emails were too detailed and long to have been a person. When i asked it if it was AI, it didnt answer but toned down the message. Right now, AI creations are fairly easy to spot....just a little to perfect or message is wrong for person.....but there will be a time that we won't be able to tell.

Jeffrey N. Gratton's avatar

MOST of us won't be able to distinguish.

Not all.

I claim for myself God's infinite gift of ever-sharpening discernment

Cabogirl's avatar

Oh. I did thank you !!!! Great info and it worked yeahhhh.

Bard Joseph's avatar

Paging free speech.

Your thoughts welcome too.

william howard's avatar

Bots don’t go away

Johnny-O's avatar

That would be true if this thread weren't full of pro war lies and nonsense, Joanie.

Joanie Higgs's avatar

The great majority of Iranians are rejoicing to have their oppressive fundamentalist regime ended, and are singing Trump's praises. And I believe that Israel will be next to be properly defenestrated.

Johnny-O's avatar

That is simply false Joanie re Iranians rejoicing. I'm sure some are, but at the end of the day, they are being bombed and are solidfying behind the their government - the EXACT opposite of what we were told before the war and currently. Gee, where I have I heard this before? "They will greet us a liberators!"

Governments and media lie constantly in war. Our media just flat out lies constantly, but now they are telling the truth right? I'm sure people like Condi Rice are right this time! Good grief.

Proberta's avatar

"Iranians rejoicing"

We're being shown videos of Iranians celebrating, but we're NOT being shown videos of the Iranian people being legitimately fearful that this new regime will be the worst yet, because the Iranians are not going to be happy about British Petroleum taking over Iran's oil fields.

Barbls's avatar

Where are you getting your opinion from?

Joanie Higgs's avatar

see my response to Bard Joseph, below.

CHUCKY's avatar

The great majority of Iranians are demonstrating in the streets in support of the regime, Joanie. You have no idea what you're talking about. Turn off Fox News and WAKE UP.

Bard Joseph's avatar

Which poll is being referenced?

Fox News?

Joanie Higgs's avatar

Not polls. Footage. And of the millions throughout Iran, protesting before the US stepped in. And the hundreds of thousands of Iranian expats taking to the streets in Canada, Europe and the US, for an end to the regime.

SHug's avatar

Joanie, those aren't black pills, those are turds. LOL!

Aloha50's avatar

Might I suggest your algorithm (X, Insta, FB, Tik Tok) is leading you astray.

Bard Joseph's avatar

I love Big Brother.

George Orwell.

War is peace.

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Ok, I'll bite. What sources and reports and opinions are you in thrall to?

Margot Wooster's avatar

Mary Ann, Don’t hold your breath waiting for an answer!

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

LOLOLOL

As I see it, there's no need to wait for an answer since I'm pretty certain they are all unreliable and discredited sources anyway.

CHUCKY's avatar

Wow, you're lost, Mary Ann.

mspring's avatar

Llnks??? There must be somewhere on the web a site that tells your truth, no? Pics of all our destroyed planes, dead soldiers, etc. I can't believe no one's posting them! Smacks of how Dems had the Epstein docs for years full of Trump dirt but never showed. Oh wait...

Dena's avatar

Wondering - what are your sources of information besides C&C?

Barbls's avatar

Do you claim some inside info that the rest of us are not privy to?

MayBella82's avatar

J-O why have you not moved on as we all know you are a paid bot. Also, God knows ... so you might eant to focus on saving your sorry soul.

Jeff S's avatar

Er, might want to get some new friends.

James Goodrich's avatar

Warning Do Not Read

There are millions of us that go through life filled with guilt for things we may have done in the past. Sins we may have committed that we hold on to, even though we have asked God for forgiveness.

In the old testament the only way you could have forgiveness for sin was to sacrifice an animal. Without the shedding of blood there was no remission for sin. Every year the high priest would go into the most sacred place in the temple, he would offer a sacrifice for his sins and the sins of the people. It was called the day of atonement. If the sacrifice was acceptable their sins would not be taken away they would be covered, they were good for another year.

This was an ongoing process. The priest had to make sure everything was perfect, that the animal didn’t have spots or blemishes, that it was the right age. All of these requirements; if they didn’t meet the requirements the sacrifice wouldn’t be acceptable. They wouldn’t have Gods blessing. This was the constant pressure they lived under. Is our sin going to be forgiven for this year? Is the sacrifice good enough?

The blood of animals only gave them temporary forgiveness. God demonstrated through the event on Mount Moriah (Genesis 22), by stopping Abraham from sacrificing Isaac and providing a ram as a substitute, God foreshadowed that human sacrifice was wrong and that He would ultimately provide a substitute sacrifice—Jesus—to replace the temporary animal system. God was saying it was fine for a time but I’m going to make a new covenant to permanently take care of sin. The problem is it couldn’t happen with the blood of bulls and goats. That wasn’t good enough, it was going to take a special kind of sacrifice.

One day John the Baptist was out ministering, he saw Jesus coming and he said “look the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world”. John knew that Jesus was the sacrifice that God told Abraham about. Jesus was Gods lamb. When He died on the cross and shed His blood it says in Hebrews “He went once and for all into the Holy of Holy’s, not with the blood of bulls and goats, but with His own blood to secure a complete redemption for us all”. One translation says an everlasting release from our sins. This was the power of His Blood.

His Blood put an end to the old system of sacrificing again and again, hoping that we would be forgiven. Now we can live with the confidence that all of our sins past, presence and future have not just been covered, not just been temporarily atoned for, they have been washed away, we have an everlasting release.

When Jesus hung on the cross, suspended between heaven and earth, He took all of our mistakes, all of our failures and weaknesses, all of the times we had blown it, and the times we ever will blow it, and He forgave us. The good news is not that God will forgive you, the good news is He has already forgiven you.

Now this sacrifice won’t do you any good if you do not receive it. If you go around guilty condemned trying to pay God back for your mistakes you are disrespecting Gods sacrifice, understand the price has already been paid. Receive His mercy, receive His love. Everyday, we should say, Father thank You that I am forgiven, thank You that I am redeemed, thank You for Your sacrifice. We shouldn’t go around every day with a heaviness, with no passion for life. Do we really think our mistakes were too much for the blood that Christ shed? Do you think God says I didn’t see that one coming, I should have sent a better sacrifice. Those days are gone, you’ve been redeemed, you’ve been redeemed by the Son of the living God. No mistake you’ve made is to much for the Son of Gods Blood.

The Gospel, or Good News, is the greatest love story ever told (John 15:13). What could be more excellent news than eternal life in Jesus Christ. For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him (John 3:16-17).

Happy Saturday Everyone!

MOMinator's avatar

HALLELUJAH!!!✝️🙏🏼💟

Guy White's avatar

Thank you JG for this beautiful reminder. The price has already been paid.

“But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin… If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.”

‭‭1 John‬ ‭1‬:‭7‬, ‭9‬ ‭NIV‬‬

RJ Rambler's avatar

This is our purpose...Tell what God has done for you.. He demonstrated eternal LOVE.

Lori's avatar
Mar 7Edited

God should never have had to sacrifice his Son. To watch Jesus suffer and be humiliated. I can't imagine how God the Father and Holy Spirit must have felt watching that whole ordeal and knowing though they could step in and stop it yet they had to let it play out for human salvation. I would rather pay for my own sins than have perfect Jesus, the Son of God treated the way He was. It makes me sick what they did to Him physically and that Jews reject Him to this day saying he is boiling in excrement. Better I die and be tortured and go to Hell than dearest Jesus suffering as He did. I would have been fine with that.

And all the animals that had to be sacrificed bc the Israelites on and on and constantly betrayed God the Father. That theme is pervasive in the Old Testament. Every other page is betrayal and worshipping idols. The Israelites must have been severely retarded. How can you keep betraying God over and over ad nauseum when you witnessed all the miracles like the Red Sea parting, delivering Israel's enemies into their hands, plagues against Egypt? And so the animals had to pay the price for their sheer delinquency. If that don't piss me off.

Juju's avatar
Mar 7Edited

While I agree with the spirit of what you are saying, and I know what you mean, for purposes of any nonbeliever reading from the sidelines: no other sacrifice would have sufficed. Not mine, not yours. The only way the wages of everybody’s sins could be paid properly, fully, and remain uncontested as to having been paid, was a perfect sacrifice. Perfect and unblemished in every way. Jesus was that. Satan cannot cry foul. God followed his laws and his design, and he paid the most perfect price for all of mankind with a lamb like no other.

As painful as it is to think about for those of us who love Jesus as we do, it was actually LOVE that made Him do it. Willingly. With determination. He loves me so much he died in my place. The gavel came down and declared guilty, but then the judge took off his robe and came down from his bench to accept the punishment on my behalf. She’s guilty, and a price must be paid, but I love her so much I will pay that price for her.

“But it must be paid properly!”

How much better than the greatest judge of all time Himself? The one who wrote the law!Perfect in the law, flawless, a worthy sacrifice.

It was paid.

If that doesn’t bring tears of love and gratitude to your eyes nothing can. I’m crying just typing it. Thank you Father for your Son, who loved us all so much AFTER MEETING US! Every, stinking, sinful one of us! And STILL he loved us deeply, enough to go through with this. Even those who betrayed him and persecuted him, he loved them so much he died for them too. 😭

James Goodrich's avatar

In the end he won! He rose from the dead and went back to be with his father.

James Goodrich's avatar

Juju, I have a friend who is religious. One day we were talking about how Jesus, who was perfectly kind, had suffered for us all and I couldn’t help but nearly breakdown thinking about it. My friend John asked me if I was alright. Though I’m a tough guy sometimes emotions get the better of me. We have seen innocent people persecuted but the pain Jesus suffered through is overwhelming to think about. I can’t imagine what his mother and friends must have went through seeing it happen.

VelvetStitching's avatar

So we'll said, Juju!

Thank you! 👍🏼🙏🏼😊

TriTorch's avatar

Wow!!! Amazing, just what i needed to hear. Thank ypu so much Mr. GOODRICH!

James Goodrich's avatar

Thank You TriTorch!

Jane Tracy's avatar

Amen James. 🙏

Susan Clack's avatar

🙌🏼🙏🏼😇❤️‍🔥 Thank you, James! Gonna raise my own HalleluYAH to you! Sharing to FB...🙌🏼🙏🏼😇❤️‍🔥

Deb's avatar

AMEN & AMEN

Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

I wish the New York Times would unconditionally surrender.

Joanie Higgs's avatar

Yes. And I wish Tucker Carlson would read Jeff Childers. He's way off track on all this.

JT's avatar

I’ve been a long time fan of both Tucker and Glenn Greenwald, but recently both have become “one trick ponies” with their incessant anti-interventionist rhetoric.

While I’m no fan of hegemonic adventurism, I’m still waiting for either of them to offer an alternative that would have a realistic chance of permanently putting a halt to Iran’s headlong rush to arm themselves with the weapons necessary to carry out their long, and vociferously stated goal to annihilate Israel, its neighbors, the US and any other country that displeases them on any given day.

So please, Tucker, Glenn and anyone else who feels they have the answer to this 2000 year old problem, cough it up post haste…many of us await your wisdom with bated breath.

Jack Bergeron's avatar

If the threat from Iran is as serious as Trump has portrayed it, why didn’t he go to Congress and ask for a declaration of war as required by our Constitution? Most of the United States citizens attacked by Iran have been in harms way. Why do we still have military assets in the Middle East? Whose real interest do they serve? Tucker Carlson makes a valid point it is Israel’s interest not our’s. We have a huge debt problem. We lend money from other countries to in turn give it away in the form of foreign aid and weapons while at the same time our infrastructure here in our country is suffering from years of neglect, not to mention all the other internal problems. The ever increasing price of gold is a barometer of the value of our dollars; as the price of gold goes up, the value of our dollars goes down. If a potential nuclear attack from Iran is so great, why haven’t we dealt with the real present threat from North Korea? Maybe it’s because they don’t border Israel and have no oil reserves.

JT's avatar

A lot of good points, Jack. Your solution to Iran's quest to obtain nuclear weapons is to a) welcome them into the community of nuclear armed states, or b)...?

Jack Bergeron's avatar

I suspect most all the nations who possess nuclear weapons know if they would ever use such a weapon they are themselves committing suicide. The problem is we have a world with fools and paranoids for leaders. Ironically eliminating the fools out of a sense of paranoia as we have repeatedly done only causes more suspicion, lack of trust and inflames the insatiable urge to arm to the fullest extent possible. We have created this mess.

Reasonable Horses's avatar

Does an aversion to suicide prevent jihadists from piloting passenger jets into buildings and detonating bombs strapped to themselves and their children? Is it sufficient that most people would never do such a thing?

JT's avatar

So it sounds like your response to the question is "a)"...in other words, we should put our trust and faith in the rationality of the mullahs.

I appreciate your response.

Johnny-O's avatar

Glenn has talked about the alternative. Maybe you need to listen again.

Margot Wooster's avatar

Since you’re so talkative, why don’t you summarize Greenwald’s views for those of us who don’t read his work?

CHUCKY's avatar

You're obviously too lazy to turn off MSM and do your own research from non-Zionist-funded sources. Look up on YouTube Judge Napolitano, Tim Dillion, Redacted, Ian Carroll, Liberty Vault.

Start there, if you dare.

Joanie Higgs's avatar

What an arrogant, dismissive accusation... we don't listen to MSM and do listen to Greenwald and too damn many others to catch their every video posting. So get off your high horse and trouble yourself to tell his brilliant alternative. Should only take a sentence or two.

Jeannie's avatar

Do your own homework.

Joanie Higgs's avatar

There's only so much research time each day. I do listen to Glen but not daily... would appreciate a brief description of his alternative option.

JT's avatar

If Glenn’s got a viable plan that you believe will keep Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons, one that you think will work, please share it.

Most criticism of Trump’s attempts to stop Iran have less to do with legitimate anti-interventionist principles and more to do with TDS.

JT's avatar

PS…here’s a “tell” for C&Cers:

When someone insults rather than offer a legitimate answer to a legitimate question, they either don’t know the answer they’re pretending to know, or they’re trolls with TDS.

Johnny-O's avatar

I've offered various sources multiple days now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woxHFRatZXQ

Conservative Contrarian's avatar

I'm curious, does the fact every time the west wants to attack someone & the governments start making up imagined threats to "justify" attacks, not give you the thought they are lying? When has the government told the truth?

Johnny-O's avatar

IRAN will be pursuing a nuke now that the Ayatollah is gone. This was the genius strategy and planning of the current admin. They blew up any potential replacements. The Ayatollah had issued two fatwahs against it. Turn off the damn TV and find legitimate sources. Jeff Childers is not a legimate source on this, he has shown repeatedly already.

Joanie Higgs's avatar

If he's "shown it repeatedly" then why the hell do you still read him... makes you feel good to troll us all, eh?

Johnny-O's avatar

You are just wrong. Many of us voted for Trump and a big reason was because he campaigned for a decade on no new wars, no regime change, and MAGA. This is doing Israel's bidding. This is nonsense. We are nearly $40 trillion in debt. Utter insanity on all fronts.

SLien's avatar

The key here is we’re 40 trillion in debt so why are we spending more money on attacking another country that can’t bomb us since they’re so far away? Why can’t we spend money here on our problems? That’s real America First. I don’t care about Iran let Israel deal with them.

Jeff S's avatar

Tucker doesn't read anymore. He just feeds his ego.

Cabogirl's avatar

I used to like him but I feel he’s going down some path to who knows where. ….

CHUCKY's avatar

He's going down the path to the truth, which I can tell you avoid like the plague.

Jane Tracy's avatar

I still listen to Tucker because I feel that he is not afraid to speak his truth. Much of what he has been saying is truth. Just watch his interview with Mike Huckabee

CHUCKY's avatar

Tucker gets on my nerves at times with his moralizing, but he's exposing the truth - whatever his motives may be. He certainly does read and stay informed or else he wouldn't know what questions to ask.

Jeff S's avatar

He is smart. And provocative, if possible.

CHUCKY's avatar

Poor Joanie is lost and is going to be in for a rude awakening.

Leskunque Lepew's avatar

Indeed. IMHO Tucker has been purchased by the Transnational gangsters.

RJ Rambler's avatar

What if nobody paid for that privilege?

John Galt?'s avatar

I had a problem - it seemed the more I focused on the daily political squabbles, the more upset and frustrated I became. Then I realized the squabbles are intended to make me upset and frustrated, so I stopped listening. Problem solved.

GG's avatar

The comment section has been hijacked by some very pessimistic trolls. I used to enjoy reading the comments, but I can’t stomach them anymore. I was flat out called a bitch by one of them a couple months ago; reporting it got me no where. He’s still here, betting ugly and foul. I’ll just stick to the daily post and skip all the negativity and carping in the comments, going forward.

Ataraxis's avatar

The trolls have descended upon the comments due to Mr. Childers’ success.

They are an op meant to demoralize those who support and recognize the truth in Mr. Childers’ posts.

Do not despair, just do not read nor respond to the trolls. The trolls are no different than the useful idiots and paid protestors at a No Kings rally. That’s all they are, a bunch of sad little losers unworthy of our attention.

If Mr. Childers was not over the target everyday, the trolls would not be here.

RJ Rambler's avatar

Don't give up. We are still here. You can get rid of them yourself by blocking each one individually. It's very helpful. I am glad I didn't block James. But very happy to have rid my very innocent eyes from the likes of others sharing their hate and depression.

Juju's avatar

Yep, time for a new batch of blocking. I want to see the comments my C&C friends make each day, and celebrate these times with them. I don’t want to have to avoid comments to avoid the propaganda war raging here. Because that’s precisely what it is, a propaganda war.

Sharon's avatar

Thank you as this is indeed what I need to do as well!

CHUCKY's avatar

Yes, block those who burst your bubble of BS and tell the truth.

Chevrus's avatar

It is refreshing that that feature is now readily available like it is on many other sites

CHUCKY's avatar

These people are all RAH RAH RAH about yet another middle east war for Our BFF and Greatest Ally in the History of Allies, one that will be 10x worse than the Iraq debacle. They're clueless and ridiculous.

Chevrus's avatar

Yes. Without that or Unit 8200 trolls….which is arguably worse….either way: IGNORED!! There is something liberating about not being held as a captive audience…..gives the whole censorship “issue” as well…

RJ Rambler's avatar

Tap their name and goes to their page. Tap 3 dots in the right corner and block.

GG's avatar

I’ll do that. Thanks!

Susan Seas's avatar

I was attacked repeatedly on one day by a name I never saw after that. I ignore some comments but look for the names I trust to be thought provoking. Let’s band together until the trolls give up. 😄

GG's avatar

I just blocked Chucky. I’m so tired of the crap they continuously dish out. Jeff must really be moving the needle.

CHUCKY's avatar

The Trolls of Truth will never give up, Susan. You're lost.

Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

It seems to work 🥰🙏🏻 thank you 😊

Sharon's avatar

This doesn’t seem to work on my iPad, do I need to be on a laptop?

Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

I don’t know, but it doesn’t work on my phone either.

Juju's avatar

Hmmm I use the app on my iPhone and it works there … you could try copying the link to their comment using the share option, and pasting it into your browser. I used to be able to do more from there than the app until I updated my OS and the app …

Valerie's avatar

It works on my iPad. Sometimes I have to click the thumbnail instead of the name, not sure why, but try that.

Ruth's avatar

Have tried many times, does not work for me either. 🤔

Susan Seas's avatar

I’m having no success either. Guess I will continue to ignore certain comments.

CStone's avatar

They aren’t just pessimistic trolls. They are paid activists and Muslims. Johnny-Zero and politico Phil are obviously Muslims.

The bard cannot stand it that the Brit’s are being defeated by our President. They have been grifting off the American taxpayer since 1913, and President Trump has flipped the board. Our country needs to kick both the Muslims, Feds and the UN out of our nation once and for all

Jasmine's avatar

I'm pessimistic about the war and definitely neither a Muslim nor a paid activist.

I'm concerned because a lot of the folks who voted for Trump in good faith were looking for an America that focused its resources at home. From what I can see, he has now lost a lot of them.

And the swing back to the left will be brutal.

Juju's avatar

“From what I can see, he has now lost a lot of them.”

I’m seeing the exact opposite as you, so who’s right? 🤷🏼‍♀️ You or me?

This is a variation of a LOT of comments in here today by people spreading propaganda and trying to create discontent in our party. It’s also a common Democrat tactic. Queue the idiot AOC.

Sometimes the impression that “everyone” is upset is the propaganda itself! That’s the bandwagon illusion.

I’m not claiming you are one of them, but they are seeping into your beliefs. You need to get out more and check who you’re relying on for both sides of the story.

From what I can see, he has definitely NOT lost a lot of them.

I see people trying desperately to convince others that “everybody thinks like I do” or “the majority of people feel this way,” when in fact that’s not true at all. They think that repeating it over and over and over will make it become true. And they go to ALL the most influential social communities to try to tear it apart.

And frankly I wouldn’t trust a party or a group of people made up of those empowered by what they see everybody else doing or thinking, as if volume dictates truth.

I take issue with these kinds of passive aggressive statements of fact slipped in to give the impression he’s losing people or this war is unpopular with most. That’s a lie.

Have gullible people allowed others to convince them of that without critical thinking?Without ALL sides to a story FIRST? Yeah that’s happening but for every one of them there are 10 that are satisfied with this president and his leadership, and this military operation.

People should note that their biggest tactic is to get out in front of any story or event with their narrative before all sides of the issue have had a chance to be heard, in order to create emotion that will be so strong that when the truth finally does comes to light it won’t matter.

Jasmine's avatar

I appreciate this reply, and for the record I would much prefer if you were right.

To answer the main question here: my criteria for choosing sources is whether they were right about Covid. No one who supported mandates, no one who encouraged everyone to get the jab, no one who later said "oh, oops, sorry, we didn't know." That leaves mostly medical freedom and libertarian-leaning voices. Of the ones who were right about covid, Jeff is the only one I follow who doesn't seem concerned about the US involvement in Iran.

Here's what I got when I asked AI to look at polls of Americans' opinions about the Iran conflict: "Consistent majority opposition – Across five independent surveys, roughly 55‑80 % of Americans either outright oppose or are uncertain about U.S. military action against Iran."

But more crucially, the libertarian voices who were supportive of Trump in 2024 are strongly against this military action, and I suspect that they were crucial when it came to swing states and independent voters.

Again - I'd prefer to be wrong.

Juju's avatar

I believe you are. Ain’t it great that we can disagree so fiercely?

Uncertain is a hell of a lonnnng way from outright oppose, yet the two have been conflated. That’s another tactic. So untrustworthy research of opinions.

Polls are not reliable. Why isn’t Kamala president if they are?

And MAGA never seems to fracture after each round of proclamations every month since he was elected. This is just another round. I trust the 13-14 months of us sticking together over the chicken little reports that the MAGA sky is falling every new news cycle. But you do you.

I opposed Covid. I know MANY who also did who see exactly the same things Jeff sees with this attack on Iran, so it’s really the specific bubble you are in. I’m seeing both, you’re seeing only one.

Jasmine's avatar

I put in the polls because others have been asking, but I originally posted because of my impression of independent voices, most of whom used to support Trump and now do not.

I truly hope that you're right.

Appreciate your willingness to engage on this without name calling. Thank you 🙏

Beckadee's avatar

The US will never survive isolated.

Jasmine's avatar

absolutely. I don't see too many people advocating isolationism

QE's avatar

How did we ever do it before WWI?

We are dumb, we can't build, we could never do it on our own, diversity is our strength.

What is the point of your comment?

Amy Winans's avatar

Trump is re-aligning us with allies who fit us and the future better, namely sovereign nations, and Donroe Doctrine is key. IE, his Venezuela and Greenland plays. It was noted that this is a key strategy in the game of Risk (we already have Alaska) and the clueless then said, oh the idiot is copying a board game? Uh, no, the inventors of Risk copied a very old defensive strategy that still works. Can also include Panama Canal in that and the cartel nations now wanting our help to fight them, all in our western hemisphere. These things take time but are headed in right direction.

QE's avatar

I get it, but that is not what is going on. We are not becoming isolationist; things are being divided into a multipolar world and Pres. Trump was installed for the transition as well as usher in the final digital dragnet.

China will control their domain with Taiwan ceded, Russia will control their domain with Ukraine ceded and we will control ours with Venezuela ceded.

Our time of hegemony is over unless we throw off the 'debt' that only exists in the minds of those who foisted the system on us.

We were once prosperous using our own resources and tariffs, but it would require giving some of the 'benefits' of sovereignty.

If the bankers rug pull us, we'll actually be back to frontier days but if we divide the world into sectors, things will continue on.

Eventually Israel will take over and usher in their messiah.

Politico Phil's avatar

Good grief, I would love to see the proof that I'm "obviously Muslim". I suppose I only have to disagree with you to be labeled as such. Apparently you've never read any of my comments regarding Bible passages or theology.

Now as to your last statement, I totally agree with this:

(The Brits) "have been grifting off the American taxpayer since 1913, and President Trump has flipped the board. Our country needs to kick both the (alien) Muslims, Feds and the UN out of our nation once and for all".

Amy Winans's avatar

Yeah, I've been reading your comments for a while now and calling you or even thinking of you as a Muslim is def. not something that ever crossed my mind.

MaryAnn's avatar

GG: that is the plan. The trolls can only win by chasing us off.

Stay tuned but just scroll by. It is kind of cathartic.🙏🏻

Cabogirl's avatar

I’m starting to agree. These negative Nannie’s need to go to Blue Sky where everyone will praise them for their deep thoughts and insights. I may just stick to Jeff too.

Ataraxis's avatar

All the trolls are repeating all the same tired and weak lines from the left. No facts.

That’s how you can tell that they’re all an organized op. No one would respond as much as they do if they weren’t being paid to troll.

Jasmine's avatar

It stinks that someone called you a name on here!

But the comment section has become a bit less of an echo chamber, which I think is a good thing. I might be one of the pessimistic ones you're referring to, but I'm desperately trying to get the attention of like-minded people who don't seem to realize what's building in this country. Trump has lost popular support, and badly.

GG's avatar

I don’t have a problem with dissenting opinions. I have a problem with certain people blowing I the comments section with their constant negativity. They post under many other comments, the same thing, over and over. It makes reading the comments dreary. RJ Rambler said I can block them and told me how to do it, and that’s what I’ll do.

KCrail's avatar

Be sure to get earplugs and an eye mask so that you are not offended by another human beings thoughts. Unconditional love means I love you no matter what you think.

QE's avatar

There is no such thing as unconditional love.

There is only love and it comes with conditions.

It is love to not feed delusions.

Reasonable Horses's avatar

Unconditional love includes pity, but it doesn't require unlimited tolerance for insults and willful ignorance. “If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet” (Matthew 10:14). In fact, that can do such people a favor. “So they shook the dust off their feet as a warning to them” (Acts 13:51).

Juju's avatar

Trump has NOT lost popular support “badly” 🙄 That’s a blatant lie

Proberta's avatar

"pessimistic trolls"

OMGosh, this is like C0vid all over again with the anti-vaxx being name-called and shouted down.

JeanR's avatar

Not according to the polls.

Unwoke in Idaho's avatar

So tell us what’s building jasmine? Please, we desperately want to hear your thoughts.

Dana Hope's avatar

I was called a “partisan retard”simply for asking a clarifying question in response to a post with false information. It used to be we could do that here without retaliation.

Juju's avatar

Depends how it was asked. Lately the questions are being worded in a way that is clear they were just trying to plant disinformation and they do it with how the question is worded, in bad faith. Leading the readers before any answer can be given. Some don’t stick around for the answer because the answer wasn’t their goal. Planting false logic and beliefs was.

I’m not saying that’s what your situation was, I’ve just seen that a LOT the past couple weeks.

Also, sometimes the shills and trolls here are so bad, soooo thick, that it’s like batting off an army of hornets, then someone asks a question in the emotional chaos and they get whacked when they otherwise normally would not have. The whacker has just had enough. Usually this community comes here to celebrate these times and enjoy each other during it, and discussing Jeff’s analysis is usually fun and interesting, even with dissenting opinions. But lately that is being sabotaged at a level I’ve rarely seen since pre-election on X. Jeff’s Substack is now on the radar of some very dishonest people and their organizations.

There is NO perfect debating platform where everybody is on their best behavior on social media when paid propagandists intent on destroying this president and our country are thrown into the mix.

Reasonable Horses's avatar

The battle is getting vicious. I think that proves we're winning and the haters know they're losing. They're desperate. That makes me happy : )

Valerie's avatar

I have blocked a couple of the worst offenders and am enjoying the comments much more. Idc about disagreement, but name calling without anything to add to the discussion is obnoxious and I’m over it.

Conservative Contrarian's avatar

It is sad when people revert to such mindless, immature tactics. I think we all receive attempts to insult us but I consider the source & move on. Their opinions are meaningless so ignore them. 🤠

GG's avatar

It’s not just their opinions. It’s the sheer volume of the number of replies. It makes picking out the good ones difficult, especially when you don’t have a lot of time (and I don’t).

CitizenA's avatar

GG, don’t leave us. We appreciate your input. I haven’t been able to get the BLOCK feature to work for me, so in a notebook I’ve started writing down the names of those that ‘REPEATEDLY’ post obnoxious, hateful, or otherwise views I vehemently disagree with.

Seeing the names sets them in my memory of who to simply scroll past so I don’t waste my time on their dribble. I’m up to 39 troll names on my Ignore List.

Also, as someone else has mentioned… replying to them is a waste of time, (and only results to a greater volume of their posts) as it only feeds the beast … which is their goal.

CHop's avatar

Walking away means they did their job. Don't let them win and don't reply to them. Silence is their biggest irritant...means they are not having an impact. I still get golden info here in the comments. Just got some today with the link of Tierney Real News substack describing the recent conviction of an Iranian hired assassin on Trump.

Leo's avatar

Yes - just don't reply.

Unwoke in Idaho's avatar

Sasha Stone’s sub stack is becoming infested by these insects as well.

CHUCKY's avatar

Go pick a potato in Idaho, dumdum.

Unwoke in Idaho's avatar

Ooh let’s see if the blocking works.

RJ Rambler's avatar

If you get on your computer you can delete them.

CHUCKY's avatar

Guess not, potato picker.

Phillip Zinni III DO FAOASM's avatar

Praying peace and strength and courage for you. Shalom Shalom

Be Well, Be Blessed, Phillip

Graphite's avatar

You can block them!

KCrail's avatar

Critical thinking means we question everything and come to our own conclusions based on our research. Never a reason to go name-calling. We’ve lost the ability to debate in a civil fashion.

Jeff’s take on Iran and Israel seem to parrot the narrative being spun up, rather than any research I have done. Mind control is powerful. Please watch. https://www.bitchute.com/video/XsUoLgQCmV2l

QE's avatar

So, what groundbreaking research have you done? No one can know what is going on over there right now without original sources and things are well beyond being able to reason to the truth.

Proberta's avatar

"...narrative being spun"

And the narrative is ALWAYS the same: The American Military is saving the World.

And Americans believe it.

CHUCKY's avatar

You prefer the pollyanna falsity of lies to the truth, GG.

Alan Davis's avatar

At some point Jeff you should do a deep dive on how bad things are getting in WA State. Just a few bills being passed this year- AG can grant warrants w/o a judge approval, state committee can remove elected sheriffs, new income tax, illegals can become government employees (cops). Blatant tyranny

KB's avatar

Yes, that sheriff bill scares me. I wish more people in this state would pay attention to what is going on.

Uncle Juan's avatar

Yep… my state… where are the manure slinging European farmers when you need them…

SHug's avatar

Wow. That is..... horrible.

Maureen Hanf's avatar

Other blue states appear to be getting the brunt of investigative pressure. I read somewhere that there are quite a few Somali daycares in King County; no idea, i am as far from there as is possible and to be still in Washington state...

Clara's avatar

I agree. I’ve lived here 42 years and I’m ready to leave. Unfortunately, my grandchildren are here and I can’t afford to move anyway. Who knew there was someone worse than Inslee?

Jeff S's avatar

Almost makes me want to move back to California.

Clara's avatar

I was born there, but as a navy brat, I grew up back east in Virginia, Tennessee, and then lived in California during high school school and followed my parents to Washington. It was a different state 45 years ago.

RJ Rambler's avatar

Illinois sucks tax payers to pay for The Hiltons literally!

Crash Pile's avatar

Hyatts, not Hiltons.

Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

This is going to be unpopular, but it’s the truth: this Iran war is unconstitutional and is exactly what the forefathers warned against — and why we escaped from King George in 1776.

There’s are the lessons we should learn from: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/stop-calling-it-the-iran-war-start

Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

It is a necessary war. We are ending the decades-long oppression and global tyranny of the same City of London, who installed and ran the Iranian mullahs.

Jpeach's avatar

The war against the Iranian Terror Regime is also part of a war against the CCP. The CCP is losing allies (Venezuela, Iran, Cuba will be next). The CCP is losing its cheap oil supply. The CCP is witnessing the might and will of the U.S. military. The CCP has been at war with America for decades and is by far the largest direct threat to America.

Richard Whitney's avatar

Brian Berletic predicted this war, and he was right. What he does is read the Brookings Institute 2009 blueprint "Which Path To Persia?" which lays out a blueprint that has been followed by Obama, Trump, and Biden.

We are just past Chapter 2, Part 5, titled "Leave It To Bibi" which advocates getting Israel to start a war that the US can join.

Interestingly, they do consider the possibility that Iran might fight back.

'It would not be inevitable that Iran would lash out

violently in response to an American air campaign,

but no American president should blithely assume

that it would not. Iran has not always retaliated for

American attacks against it.......

However, it is at least equally likely that Iran

would shoot back as best it could. ......

It seems far more likely that Tehran might

choose to respond in kind (roughly) by lobbing ballistic missiles at U.S. bases, oil facilities, and

other high-value targets located in the Gulf states,

Israel, or other U.S. ally states. This contingency

would merit deploying considerable antiballistic

missile defense assets in the region and providing

as much warning to U.S. allies as possible. However, because many Iranian leaders would likely

be looking to emerge from the fighting in as advantageous a strategic position as possible, and

because they would likely calculate that playing

the victim would be their best route to that goal,

they might well refrain from such retaliatory missile attacks."

Written 17 years ago, and yet.......

Mrs. RW

Amy Winans's avatar

Nice find, Mrs. RW. I have to chuckle at how much the Iranians resemble the Mexican cartels at this moment. Impotence lashing out. Do you realize they both have done the same thing? Hitting targets indiscriminately willy nilly like a toddler who doesn't get their way.

Johnny-O's avatar

Do people not realize how critical the fine minerals are we receive from China are for our war machines? Yes, let's start waging war on them when we don't have the capability to obtain much of these refined minerals elsewhere. This is the type of "strategic" planning going on in the WH. It's utterly idiotic.

John Van Stry's avatar

Everything we get from China exists here. The EPA just won't let us mine it.

Jeannie's avatar

China is the only country that REFINES rare earths. Just having them in a mine isn't enough.

https://rareearthexchanges.com/news/why-separating-and-refining-rare-earth-elements-is-so-difficult-to-scale/

Johnny-O's avatar

First off, I doubt that "everything" exists here. Secondly, thank you for bolstering my comment - it is in the ground and we have no refining capabilities - so, maybe in 5 or 10 years we would see fruit from that, which again, makes pissing china off utterly retarded.

CStone's avatar

Leave, Muslim. Your ayatollahs (PLURAL-😂😂😂😂😂) are dead.

Steve Stevens's avatar

But Trump said we have all of the cards, lol.

Jeannie's avatar

Trump also said he would't start wars but would get us out of foreign interventions, he'd audit Fort Knox, release the Epstein papers, and hold the bad actors from the last administration to account.

I'm not saying he hasn't done good things, but he does exaggerate, flip flop, and listens to the wrong people.

Truk Leppur's avatar

CCP provides us rare earths and fentanyl like the west provided them with opium. To make us addicted and fear disruption of the supplier.

Beckadee's avatar

Rare earth, not fine minerals. There is a difference.

Abiding Dude's avatar

WE are at war with China????

Why are we "warring" on the CCP?

What is the "direct" threat?

Yes, China is carefully watching Trump's humiliation in Iran.

Johnny-O's avatar

Yes, a necessary war for the zionists. They can fight their own war. Trump and MAGA are finished because of this.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

You never know.

If that doesn't happen will you promise to come back here and admit to all the readers that you're never in doubt, but often wrong?

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

I second that challenge.

Johnny-O's avatar

Yes, but don't worry, I that treatment will not be reciprocated upon me if/when I am proven correct. The media and government always lie during war. Israel is heavily censoring the damage they have incurred. Other sources are reporting hundreds of troops being killed. If that is accurate, this administration is done.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

I will. I respect differences of opinion.

Navyo Ericsen's avatar

Sadly opinion is frequently confused with fact.

Susan Seas's avatar

Still waiting for one “you were right” concerning Trumps actions. Seems like TAW Time will tell, Again. These nay sayers never admit they were off the mark.

BD's avatar

And just might those sources be johnny boy?

Michelle Enmark, DDS's avatar

Thank you, Ryan, for writing what many of us were thinking. And no hairsplitting on the details. Yes, there is a fog of war, but I seriously doubt that hundreds of American soldiers are dead and that information is being hidden from the public. This is one point that I would like to see be admitted when determined to be incorrect by those who are spreading it. Commenters here are not the only ones. I’m not sure what is going on with one substack author I follow who is writing articles full of information that is easily found to be false with a quick internet search. It’s very strange and out of character from what this person has put out in the past several years. The internet isn’t always reliable but multiple outlets, even left leaning ones debunking something? It’s compelling.

CraigN's avatar

Better yet, go away after the apology.

RJ Rambler's avatar

DO NOT feed the animals!

Johnny-O's avatar

What is so tragic, are those of you who see all US wars as just and wise and necessary. We are in a good place strategically to win this war for various reasons, and when we do nothing but blindly cheerlead, you help to put sons and daughters in danger. It's shameful.

CStone's avatar

You thought it was just when the Iranian-backed Hamas attacked Israel.

Jeannie's avatar

Are we Israel's goon, or what?

mspring's avatar

"A war for the Zionists" just a little too pat for me. If Israel didn't exist, if the jews were still dispersed through the world, marginalized, persecuted, etc, Iran's mullahs would still call us the great satan. Islam has had enmity to the west and a desire to subjugate the west since it's beginning. They almost conquered Europe a thousand years ago, they have essentially conquered most of Africa, and on the way to reconquering Europe again, a large amount driven by Iran with help of other mideast states. If we are to stop their advances why not work with the only other democracy in the mideast, one who has equal, in some ways better warmaking skills and tech???

Jeannie's avatar

Sunni Islam is the vast majority. Iran is Shia. Who is spreading Islam?

Ottoman Turks are the empire that conquered parts of Europe, and it was Sunni.

Johnny-O's avatar

NOT OUR PROBLEM

Fran Tabor's avatar

Israel is the only country attacked by Iran more than the US of A. Our mistake was electing Jimmy Carter president. He thought the Moslems, being religious,

would be better rulers than the Shaw, who refused to jump every time we said jump. Yet the Shaw was a friend. Not a lap dog, a friend.

CStone's avatar

You accused Israel of being behind the Hamass attack in in 2023. You’re so afraid of a teeny tiny nation. You think Israel runs the world.

Uncle Juan's avatar

I hope you are wrong…

CStone's avatar

He is.

He is a Muslim.

Mykool's avatar

Or: Only a necessary war, facilitated by the City of London, for an Rothschild advancement and Netanyahu wet dream fulfillment of building the Canaanitic third temple?

Politico Phil's avatar

Every time someone tells me it is necessary to go to the other side of the planet and kill some people, the hair raises on the back of my neck and my shoulders start to bow up. The only time it is NECESSARY to defend myself with lethal force is when I am being attacked. This was America's position up until the Lincoln regime when he attacked his own people in 1861.

There will be consequences for our blatant disregard of the Biblical principles of war given in God's Word.

.................................................................................................................................

Food riots by Fall?

If this conflict drags on and spirals out of control, watch out for rising fertilizer prices. The Middle East accounts for 25% of global fertilizer exports. No energy, no food.

https://www.bonnerprivateresearch.com/p/food-riots-by-fall

Politico Phil's avatar

BTW, when was the last time you heard a pastor preach on the Biblical principles of war? Does anyone really think God did not address this in His Revelation? But that would be too inconvenient, wouldn't it?

Uncle Juan's avatar

The mullahs came to power in 1979 because of the CIA coup of 1953 which place a shah in charge, who was a tyrant in his own right…

Middle Easterners have long memories.

Jeannie's avatar

Correct. We have been meddling in Iran and other countries for decades.

Abiding Dude's avatar

Necessary my ass... what threat to America did Iran pose?

What imminent threat (required by our Constitution) justified Trump's unilateral attacks??

Or do you support America being the military arm of zionist Israel?

Jasmine's avatar

This City of London business is the theory that I don't quite understand but find interesting. Do you have any sources to recommend? I've heard about it a bit on Tom Luongo's podcast and on No Agenda.

Beckadee's avatar

https://www.youtube.com/@RichDoesPolitics

Rich has Luongo, E.M. Burlinghame, as well as Susan Kokindo {Promethean Action] on all the time.

https://www.youtube.com/@PrometheanAction

Jasmine's avatar

Thank you! I actually heard Luongo talk with Susan Kokindo in a recent podcast. Interesting stuff. I have a hard time fitting it to what I see in the world, but I'm trying to keep an open mind.

Beckadee's avatar

Watch the Burlinghame 1 hour with Rich I posted below. I actually am not a fan of Luongo. Something about the twirling cigar he always has- lol.

Jasmine's avatar

Listened to about half of it last night. I have to figure out how to fit this into my understanding of the world. I've thought about a lot of stuff, but shipping and insurance is not on that list!

Thanks so much for recommending. As it turns out, Burlinghame was on a podcast that my husband listened to recently, so we had fun comparing notes.

Jasmine's avatar

haha! I don't follow him much but the times I have heard him I've been intrigued because of the City of London stuff.

Have only listened so I had no idea about the cigar 😂

Beckadee's avatar

Rich is a Pakistani, UK based social worker. I like him. He asks questions and then let's his guest go to town!

Beckadee's avatar

E.M. Burlinghame is really interesting and very intense. He's former US military living in Idaho now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzXQvVLIpFM

John Van Stry's avatar

No, it's not.

Because we didn't start it, Iran did.

They declared war on us (that's all it takes) and they have killed thousands, if not tens of thousands, of Americans.

We've been at war with them for 47 years.

Johnny-O's avatar

Please do provide us of evidence that the government of Iran has killed thousands or tens of thousands of Americans. I will wait.

John Van Stry's avatar

Who do you think built all of those IED's? Who do you think blew up the Marine Barracks? Who do you think blew up the Kobar towers?

You're purposefully ignorant.

Johnny-O's avatar

Have you ever heard of the CIA? Have you ever learned about all the terrorist proxies they support in the ME? If only it were as simple as you like to make it out to be.

Susan Seas's avatar

I believe, Rapid Response 47 had quite a list going on Truth yesterday. Maybe start there.

Abiding Dude's avatar

Delusional bullcrap.

Uncle Juan's avatar

The amount killed keeps going up… wow

David Roberts's avatar

The Constitution gave Congress the power to declare war. The Congress passed the War Powers Act, which delegated some of those powers to The Executive. Which they are entitle to do. Thus what he’s doing is not Unconstitutional.

Anne Clifton's avatar

And it's a good thing we don't have to wait for Congress. It's essentially useless.

Jpeach's avatar

Congress is broken and completely compromised.

John Van Stry's avatar

The War Powers act is not constitutional.

The Constitution is about us starting a war. When someone else declares war on the US and prosecutes said war, the US is at war. Congress does not have to declare it, it already exists and the President is free to prosecute it as he sees fit.

Scott's avatar

You asserting its unconstitutionality doesn’t make it so. As of this second, it is constitutional and the law of the land. You not liking it doesn’t make it unconstitutional.

John Van Stry's avatar

You don't understand how any of this works, do you?

Carolyn's avatar

No you are wrong. It is not unconstitutional. Re read the constitution. This is not a war..it is a military operation.

Politico Phil's avatar

"It's not a war... it's a military operation." LOLOL

Johnny-O's avatar

Can you imagine how different this whole thread would be if dipshit Biden or any other democrat started this "military operation?"

John Van Stry's avatar

They DID. MANY TIMES. But you didn't say anything then. Because you're biased and a liar.

Johnny-O's avatar

Bullshit. I'm against war consistently, which means I've been right about it my whole adult life, because they have been losing ventures. Trillions gone, thousands of deaths of our own. Idiotic. Both parties support this bullshit, and they are both evil.

John Van Stry's avatar

You didn't complain about Biden doing it.

You didn't complain about Obama doing it.

You didn't complain about Clinton doing it.

You only complain when a republican does it.

You're not against war, you're just against Republicans.

Politico Phil's avatar

Anyone who engages in ad hominem attacks is not to be taken seriously.

As for bias, there is no one here who is not.

CStone's avatar

You say that every time someone disagrees with you and your butt buddies Zero/Bard……

Do you three live together?

You DID NOT COMPLAIN when Obama dropped bombs all over the world…because he is a Muslim.

John Van Stry's avatar

It's not Ad Hominem when I'm calling out past actions.

CStone's avatar

He is a liar. That is what Muslims do. They and he are perfectly aligned with the demonicRAT Party.

Jules's avatar

The response is way overdue by decades. I was against the Irak war, I am not against this one. Iran was an openly terrorist country that carried out and supported multiple terrorist activities all over the world, and streched out tentacles further and further into our hemisphere.

They have so much blood on their hands killing Americans and influencing other brainwashed religious killers everywhere else.

Barbls's avatar

The truth is that the President is the Commander in Chief of the US military, according to the Constitution. The truth also is that the POTUS is informing Congress according to the law that Congress passed.

You may not agree with the actions against Iran, but they are legal and Constitutional.

Richard Whitney's avatar

James Madison wrote the first draft of the Constitution and he explains why your point is mistaken. The cowardly Congress of 1972 might have passed a law giving away their duties, but that doesn't make it Constitutional.

"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department. Beside the objection to such a mixture of heterogeneous powers: the trust and the temptation would be too great for any one man: not such as nature may offer as the prodigy of many centuries, but such as may be expected in the ordinary successions of magistracy. War is in fact the true nurse of executive aggrandizement. In war a physical force is to be created, and it is the executive will which is to direct it. In war the public treasures are to be unlocked, and it is the executive hand which is to dispense them. In war the honors and emoluments of office are to be multiplied; and it is the executive patronage under which they are to be enjoyed. It is in war, finally, that laurels are to be gathered, and it is the executive brow they are to encircle. The strongest passions, and most dangerous weaknesses of the human breast; ambition, avarice, vanity, the honorable or venial love of fame, are all in conspiracy against the desire and duty of peace."

James Madison

Mrs. RW

Barbls's avatar

I supposes SCOTUS will have to settle whether Congress has the Constitutional authority to grant limited war powers to the Executive, and through statutes that are not full declarations of war, as it has done in various ways since 1800. In recent history, no one has challenged the authority of the Presidents (all of them since 1972) who have acted under the authority of the War Powers Act until now, so a lot of precedent has been set.

As to the desire of Presidents to wield extraordinary power, that is not a state of mind limited to them. Not by a long shot.

Richard Whitney's avatar

Yes, and our Founding Fathers realized that and made it impossible. Or so they thought.

But then came the post WW2 presidents, and the cowardly Congresses.

Mrs. RW

Jeff C's avatar

Iran had this coming, as Trump correctly pointed out they have been bullies for decades and eventually a bully picks on the wrong person and gets his ass kicked. Unlike the US and Israel, they couldn't back up their actions with credible force.

The real question here was if this was wise and in the best interests of the American people. I'm highly skeptical of both but it entirely depends on how this thing turns out. If it wraps up in a few weeks with a friendly government in place then Trump will be totally vindicated. The last thirty years of forever wars in this part of the world suggests it won't.

The only real argument against this war is that it was bad policy and bad for America. I happen to think it is bad, but time will tell. Harkening back 250 years is nonsensical, it's not 1776 when people fight each other with muskets. This stuff about killing the holy leader of Islam is also nonsense, Khameini was a butcher responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands. If anyone deserved to die it was him.

Parsing the Constitution is a pointless waste of time, it won't convince a single person. Just as blaming it all on "the Joooos" is a waste of time, and inane, low-IQ stuff. I happen to think our relationship with Israel is bad for the US, but so what? Ultimately this war will turn out good or bad for the US and that's what counts.

Turmp has about a month to demonstrate it's good for the US. If that doesn't happen this will hang around the administrations neck like an albatross and the GOP will get shellacked in the next election. The last two years of Trump's presidency will be non-stop impeachments.

Margot Wooster's avatar

Jeff, your last paragraph is why I think President Trump would never have risked something like this Iran op if he didn’t know MUCH MORE than we know at this point. Somehow I think victory in this will lead to an end to the Ukraine/Russia conflict, and many more great things.

Jeff C's avatar

He absolutely knows much more than us and he's been right far more often than he's been wrong. That's why we all need to exercise some humility, common sense, and let this thing play out for a bit.

My main concern is not that we'll lose as of course we'll win. The concern is that PDJT has been fed a bunch of happy talk about this being a cake walk and that the regime would immediately collapse. If this is still going on four months from now, with Iran indiscriminately firing missiles, the Straight of Hormuz closed, and oil at $100+/barrel then the GOP will be absolutely destroyed in November. With good reason I might add. Trump's last two years will be an ineffective disaster.

He took a huge risk here (mainly on behalf of a foreign country BTW), I sure hope he knows what he's doing.

We know fanatic ideologs like Lindsay Graham, Mark Levin, Mike Huckabee, and even Netanyahu himself have his ear. I have no doubt every one of these despicable people would blatantly lie to the PDJT about this. We know Mossad runs influence operations and disinformation campaigns on half of Congress and no doubt PDJT himself. We know the US has been repeatedly manipulated in wars against our interests that were much more difficult than originally portrayed. There is a history here.

I hope you are right but this all seems incredibly reckless to me unless PDJT was 100% sure he was getting good information. I don't see how that could be.

Politico Phil's avatar

Thank you Jeff C for a few rational thoughts in a sea of emotional hyperbole.

Jeff C's avatar

Thanks Phil, it's something isn't it? On one hand you have the Jewish zealots and nutty Christian Zionists who insist it's God's will that the US military facilitate the Jewish religion and building of the Third Temple. Not only is it heretical for a Christian to advocate this, but it's just insane policy. These people openly practice idolatry toward a secular, foreign country and believe in the racial superiority of an ethnic group. It is delusional, completely contrary to the Gospel, and an invented belief system. Yet this is what they were taught and they have never spent any time or critical thought to see if it withstands scrutiny.

On the other hand you have people (like Massie and Rand Paul) who live in a delusional Libertarian fantasy land that completely discounts human nature. There are actually bad people out there and they occasionally do need to be dealt with. Add in the groypers who attempt to whip everyone into a frenzy and are clearly acting in bad faith. Nick Fuentes is talking about how the US would have been better off with Kamala. WTF? Yes our relationship with Israel is a large net negative (IMO) but there are countless other important issues besides that.

What all these people have in common is that they have never had to actually accomplish anything important. They have never managed a complex task, exercised risk mitigation, navigated task trades, persuaded smart, informed people on the pros/cons of decisions, and had to execute to cost/schedule milestones. They just react emotionally to every stimulus and make one bad decision after another. They are like children in their emotional development.

Those of us that actually have done this stuff (and are responsible for the outcome) know that emotional reactions almost always make things worse. Now, my highest priority in life is that my kids (and future grandkids) inherit the best possible future they can. That takes a plan, it takes rationale decision making, and it takes sacrifices on my wife's and my part. Emotional hysteria about things outside our control not only isn't helpful, it is counter-productive.

Politico Phil's avatar

Spot on Jeff. Politics and religion - a bad mixture when the average Christian has no idea how God's Law applies to that subject. All of which is indicative of the poor theological state of the American church that we can be so mislead by the Zionist political movement and call it Biblical.

daverkb's avatar

Thanks for the lucidity. It is a relief to read some clear headed thinking, something that makes sense for a change.

CStone will never face up to the Israeli state sponsored genocide, the heinous Mossad, the Epstein/Israeli blackmailing operation, the Israeli capture of the American government, and the entirely unholy, un-Godly lie which is the Israeli state.

CStone's avatar

And yet neither you nor politico nor johnzero cand out against the mix rats when they attacked Israel.

We heard from families and friends that are in Israel right now, and they are having to practically live in bomb shelters because of your RAT Party’s love of Muslims.

Jeff C's avatar

You are acting unhinged, we've talked about this before and you admitted it. Please don't do this to yourself, it's bad for your own mental health and unpleasant for those around you.

Get off the internet and take a walk outside, enjoy God's wonderful creation. You don't deserve to be miserable like this. God is good, my friend.

Richard Whitney's avatar

I worry about Democrats coming in also, and for that reason. They will try to impeach Trump again, and we'll have to go through that absolute bs again.

I like JD better, so that is the silver lining, but I realize that if I like JD, the Deep State hates him, so I think they would take him out first, the way they did Agnew in the day.

His life will be in danger.

Mrs. RW

CStone's avatar

Marco Rubio is ten times a better candidate than Vance. Vance is not ready.

Johnny-O's avatar

Narco Neocon Rubio? The one Trump used to excoriate for his neocon ways? That one?

Richard Whitney's avatar

I disagree. JD is intelligent and principled and calm.

He will make a great president.

Mrs. RW

Juju's avatar

Well thought out and reasonable comment highlighting both sides of the argument. THIS is what I come here for. Thank you!

Careful Jeff C, you will be considered dangerous behaving balanced. The opposition in our country do NOT want balanced analyses, anywhere. That’s why they are here in this Substack now….

Navyo Ericsen's avatar

About King George (Hanover): The UK has had a continual succession of German monarchs ever since. The name Windsor came into being during WWI to downplay the original German name of Saxe-Coburg und Gotha, which sounds awkward considering they were at war with cousin Wilhelm in Germany.

Janine Melnitz's avatar

You are absolutely correct. This war is going sideways fast and cheerleading for the chaos of Iran is ridiculous. We are losing our allies in the Middle East and Trump’s coalition is breaking up fast. We will likely lose both a house in the Senate in November. I hope I’m wrong.

Doohmax's avatar

Relax...You are wrong.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

Im generally a libertarian so I am almost always against conflict. However, im old enough to have figured out that Iran’s regional strategy relies on a multilayered system of coercion:

- ballistic missiles

- proxy militias

-maritime intimidation

- nuclear brinkmanship

Does that sound like a threat?

I suppose we could just drop pallets of cash instead of bombs....

Bottom line:

I've come to the conclusion this action is a net benefit because I believe the alternative to this action is more risky than trying to dismantle a theocracy that believes the infidel has no right to live.

Johnny-O's avatar

Then you are old enough to remember the Iraq war. Same lies, same bullshit. Rinse and repeat.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

Yes. And im ashamed I supported that war for almost a year, not least of which is the trillions spent on it and the death of Americans, but also the panic after 9/11 combined 22 agencies into a gigantic sprawling bureaucracy at the DHS, giving us an unaccountable colossal blob of pencil-pushers who create mission creep for job security without a coherent mandate.

Plus I hate having to deal with a cacophony of barking from trolls at TSA when I fly....;)

Jeannie's avatar

GWB hurt this country in a terrible way with the Patriot Act.

Richard Whitney's avatar

The Patriot Act, the Military Commissions Act, Homeland Security, and the PREP Act.

That is when we lost our republic.

Mrs. RW

CStone's avatar

You finally made a sensible statement.

What a surprise.

Abiding Dude's avatar

"...the infidel (goyim) has no right to live."

Ever read the jew talmud?

Anne Clifton's avatar

How are we losing allies??? Even the other Middle Eastern countries are supporting us.

Jeannie's avatar

The ones hosting our military that are now losing their oil production and economies?

Bahrain and others aren't too happy now.

Juju's avatar

🤣 Their displeasure is with Iran, not the U.S.

Richard Whitney's avatar

Saudi Arabia had to send troops to put down the rebellion in Bahrain.

This is going SO well.

Mrs. RW

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

You are right in that you are wrong. No evidence of losing our allies in the ME, that MAGAis cracking up,or that MAGA will lose both the House and Senate.

Janine Melnitz's avatar

We will know in a few months. I do hope I am wrong.

Jasmine's avatar

I agree

And I also hope to be wrong

Lydia Garrisi's avatar

Wow Janine it seems like you haven’t read any of Jeff Childers posts…

Janine Melnitz's avatar

The problem is, I have read his posts. It's delusional to think Trump is playing 4D chess. This is a huge quagmire and to think this is going well...is delusional.

Lydia Garrisi's avatar

Huge quagmire? I don’t mean this rudely but how old are you? Ukraine was a huge quagmire. Iraq and Afghanistan were awful huge quagmires. Vietnam as well. Someone is delusional here and it’s not Jeff Childers or the majority of his readers/commenters.

Jeannie's avatar

It's only been a few weeks, but it has all the signs of becoming a quagmire, and one that will devastate Western economies.

How old are you? I'm 70, so I remember Viet Nam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Bosnia, Serbia, Libya etc...quite well. All had bad impacts, but nothing like this will be.

Look at a map. Any "Allies" we have depend on importing food and other supplies that must pass through the Straight of Hormuz. They export oil through there. This will shock the supply chain.

You could go around Saudi Arabia to the West instead, but then you have to go between Houthis and Somalis.

Juju's avatar

Blocked this account. It helps to review their account and activity. When I see they like all the posts by the KNOWN trolls and propagandists, that’s enough for me to not have their blatant b.s. “declarations” (because that’s all they are) cluttering my enjoyable morning read.

Margot Wooster's avatar

You might want to check out Promethean Action (Susan Kokinda and Barbara Boyd) and Joe Lange on X

Johnny-O's avatar

Yep, the board of peace members are not exactly thrilled about this.

RJ Rambler's avatar

"Please. What a stupid narrative. Get out of here." 🎯

Margot Wooster's avatar

Losing our allies? What are you talking about?? Pres. Trump said on TS early this morning “ Iran, which is being beat to HELL, has apologized and surrendered to its Middle East neighbors, and promised that it will not shoot at them anymore. This promise was only made because of the relentless U.S. and Israeli attack. They were looking to take over and rule the Middle East. It is the first time that Iran has ever lost, in thousands of years, to surrounding Middle Eastern Countries. They have said, “Thank you President Trump.” I have said, “You’re welcome!”

Politico Phil's avatar

Unconditional Surrender

COMMENT: Marty, you have shown us that history repeats because human nature never changes. Trump just demanded total surrender from Iran. President Franklin D. Roosevelt, first publicly demanded the unconditional surrender of Germany on January 24, 1943, at the end of the Casablanca Conference. The Actual Surrender was signed on May 8, 1945 (V-E Day). Over 2 million soldiers died after that demand.

It never fails.

ANSWER: When faced with a similar situation, no matter who is in power, they will say and do the same thing.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/uncategorized/unconditional-surrender/

Phillip Barker's avatar

There are an amazing number of crazed rapscallion's propaganda, even on C&C, and a number of coy bots and subversives to boot. Compromised is the operative word, in my view. Sad...

Alan Devincentis's avatar

This war was started by Iran 47 years ago. About time it was decided.

Amy Winans's avatar

Well, then, blame Congress. They ceded their control a LONG time ago. They've let too many modern presidents off the hook. Plus, Congress is virtually paralyzed right now. It's Orange Man Bad even if he cured cancer. They might could be dropping bombs on us and the Dems in Congress would not give him the ok.

Scott's avatar

Like Vietnam Iraq etc.

laura-ann Knox's avatar

It's not a war. Read up, my druggist

Joanie Higgs's avatar

Couldn't resist being first to hit the like button :^)

Gary's avatar

What is it with these politicians like Cornyn?? Hasn't made enough money yet? Can't stand giving up power over others? Want to die in office so they get a fancy funeral on TV? Enough already. Why is it OK to have a "staffer" wheel you into session, put your finger on the button they like to vote? Cornyn Is not exactly a good republican anyway. He needs to go home.

CHop's avatar

If you die in office, the family gets a gratuity death benefit payout and half the members salary so remaining in office. In addition, if they are compromised, others have motivation to keep them in office.

Skenny's avatar

TDS is mutating. After the recent Tranny Derangement Syndrome outbreak, Tehran Derangement Syndrome is now spreading contagiously. MSM hardest hit.

Johnny-O's avatar

How is that Trump Deification Syndrome working out?

Skenny's avatar

More good days than bad when you're on the winning team. Which losing teams are you on? Tranny, illegals, MSM, Hollywood, or just generally left-leaning?

Johnny-O's avatar

No, I'm on team Freedom. Enjoy team Zionism.

Ataraxis's avatar

Antisemitism is the best marker for insanity.

Politico Phil's avatar

That is the exact same smear used by the left when their only retort was to call everyone 'racist'. You are no different.

Johnny-O's avatar

Zionism and Judaism are not the same thing. Try your childish smears elsewhere.

Tori's avatar

BS...they are, and you can't and won't defend any fictional distinction.

Politico Phil's avatar

I see we are getting the same 'reactions' that we get from BNN when we criticize the Ukrainian war... I mean almost verbatim. It's so silly, you can't even take offense but only laugh at it. War hysteria produces identical results regardless which war you're talking about.

Ataraxis's avatar

Antisemitism is the best marker for insanity.

CStone's avatar

Do you have a ‘boy’ in your home?

Bard Joseph's avatar

Paging Freud.

How long have you thought this.

Could be a side effect of mass hypnosis.

Ataraxis's avatar

Antisemitism is the best marker for insanity.

Tori's avatar

Sigh...hiding behind the *zionism* disguise for Jew-hatred....

Ataraxis's avatar

Notice how the two trolls had to instantly respond to my reply. And both of their responses were weak.

Shine a light on an antisemite and they don’t like it.

The truth hurts.

Jeannie's avatar

You don't have to be an antisemite to oppose zionism. That is not a weak response, and it is the truth.

Are you a fake Christian who doesn't believe Christ fulfilled the promise in the Old Testament? You think we have to support the state founded in 1949, because of the Old Testament?

The Messiah came, He said He fulfilled to Old Covenant and is the New Covenant.

Jewish people are fine with me. The US being influenced by AIPAC to make us responsible for protecting Israel, no matter what they do, is zionism.

Politico Phil's avatar

Being on the 'winning' team is not the point. However, being morally right is the whole point.

Skenny's avatar

Being morally right is the best way to win. Trannies, MSM, Hollywood, and the illegal immigration racket are morally wrong.

Conservative Contrarian's avatar

I noted said mutation a few days ago, Trump's Delusional Sycophants.

Politico Phil's avatar

I like Trump Divine Syndrome... that works too.

Abiding Dude's avatar

Do you think this good woman is "deranged"? Or just a truth-teller... unlike Jeff?

https://karenkwiatkowski.substack.com/p/war-on-iran-pentagon-after-action?

Delightful Designs's avatar

"The point is that, after a year of evidence, President Trump has earned a little latitude. We already know there’s a plan. We should assume the plan is working until it’s clear that it isn’t."

LET THE MAN WORK!! He's really getting a LOT done!

Bard Joseph's avatar

The budget deficit?

Social Security?

Military spending?

Abiding Dude's avatar

Like his support and funding of Israel's genocide and land thefts in Gaza?

300,000+ innocent murdered, justified by a Oct 7 false flag?

Yep... that's a LOT

BelleTower's avatar

Heard an interesting point yesterday … with the straight of Hormuz affectively in US control, China’s oil supply may be pinched to point of making it an awkward moment to invade Taiwan etc. Trump is not a dummy. I don’t know much else but of that I am sure.

Aaron's avatar

Our carrier strike group moved out another 1000km from the straight? Why didn't Jeff report on that? If we are "winning" why did our Navy turn tail? I'm sorry to report that Jeff is doing a small country's propaganda here on the daily. He showed us one country's drop in attacks. What about the other hits Iran gets through on the daily. All the GCC countries and Israel have tight censorship. None of us truly know whats happening. Centcom admitted our group moved back. If we are winning why do we need a UK ship to help protect from attacks? How about all the high tech early warning radars we have definitely lost? I suggest you sycophants read or watch what former military leaders such as LT Col Wilkerson are saying about all this. I'm not implying we are losing, but things are definitely not what this hasbara barf is implying either....

Beckadee's avatar

UK ship is going to Cyprus to protect UK base. Not the Strait of Hormuz.

Jeannie's avatar

Iran took out our radar in the GCC countries. Where's the report on that?

I've seen multiple articles about it, and Grok confirmed.

https://x.com/Globalsurv/status/2029128807756570777

Jerri Hinojosa's avatar

The paragraph immediately after the UAE table states the percentage decrease throughout the region.

Aaron's avatar

You are correct in the reported volume. Iran doesn't appear to be at war with the GCC. They could have just been letting them know that they have the ability to do it. The attacks potentially got through from us sending assets somewhere else in the region? What did that show those countries? When the rockets Do fly,our assets are spent somewhere else. Instead of what those gulf countries are paying for. Our bases have definitely been hit repeatedly! The straight is still pinched off for now.... How long will China let this go? Do we want that war too?? We still almost every day, come up with a new excuse why we are even there? This same hasbara has been all my life, over 50 years, about Iran. No one before was DUMB enough to try This. We had over 100k troops, air superiority and the US behind all the lies then.... This could be a massive economic hit around the world and a huge gamble..We shall see but don't ever forget the first casualties in war is always the truth.

Bard Joseph's avatar

Straight not closed to China.

Iran controls the Strait with missiles.

Aaron's avatar

LMFAO. Jeff closed the comments to paid only...LOL LoL his hasbara is now only for his ardent followers of the cult. We can now truly see what is happening here. Things are spinning out of control and the messages have to be tightened up and aligned. He says today that we are going to send in Spec Ops when we cannot control the straight? Holy crap you people buy into this? Oil at 200 is good for us? Strap on your seatbelts because he acts like this is just one refinery down. He failed to mention that we also struck the average Iranians water supply last night because that is what good Christians do. Now the buffoon just gave a green light for Iranians to respond in kind..What happens when more refineries are hit that aren't Iranian? This billionaire was used against the world to usher in the NWO plan for 2030 while religious cult worshipping sheep cheer it on believing they are part of a 4d chess plan. God bless those who know better. The rest of you good luck

Conservative Contrarian's avatar

I'm glad, it's like a sycophant parade; very revealing, not very flattering tho. 🤠

Also, earlier on X I saw a post claiming last night/this morning Special Ops attempted to land on the island but several were killed and the rest retreated. I can't verify but the claims are out there.

Do people really think the number of dead Americans is still less than 10? I suspect many do.

C. Wilson's avatar

I asked AI this question:

"What in the last 50 years has been the highest price for a barrel of oil? Then convert it to today's pricing figuring in inflation."

Here is the answer with the source. Took about 2 seconds. Folks, we aren't even close now.

"The highest price for a barrel of oil in the last 50 years was $147.27 per barrel for West Texas Intermediate (WTI) crude oil in July 2008, driven by peak oil fears and speculation.

When adjusted for inflation to June 2025 dollars, this price is equivalent to $186.22 per barrel. This remains the highest inflation-adjusted price in the historical record, surpassing other major peaks such as the 1979–1980 surge and the 2022 spike following Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

Nominal peak: $147.27 (July 2008)

Inflation-adjusted peak (June 2025): $186.22

Source: InflationData.com, historical oil prices chart (updated July 15, 2025"

Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

That was a terrible year for my family. Fuel prices nearly broke us. 😕

Conservative Contrarian's avatar

It always amazes me to witness seemingly intelligent people believe and repeat as fact, press releases from countries that impose strict censorship on news and photos. Sure, go ahead and believe them, why would they lie?

Same for NGO think-tanks.