It's filed—our PREP Act lawsuit; Trump campaign's possible peace plan; good signs in primaries; Bannon gets help from House; Supreme's order days multiply; federal judge blocks Biden giveaways; more.
Lord, please bless Jeff, his family and team, this community, and our future children. This is a big fight - praying you find endless support at every turn!
Signed into law by Dubya on December 30, 2005, while most Americans were at home enjoying their Christmas dinner leftovers and preparing for New Year’s Eve festivities. What a guy! Prayers for you and your team on this crucial lawsuit.
Totally agree…I like to say “two cheeks of the same ass”…means basically the same thing, only not as ‘thoughtful’!
Been saying this since this way before the 2020 election and The Scamdemic. It was never a Democrat - Republican thing…it was a “one giant corrupt Congress” kinda thing…both in The Senate and The House!
The mantra in our U S Congress has been, "Go along to GET along" for probably over 100 years!!! I admire the Freedom Caucus and pray it will be growing in members in the coming years.
I believed he was a decent person. Hah! Was I fooled! Reading Joe Lange's research has opened my eyes to things I DID NOT WANT TO SEE, but now I see the swindlers, hucksters, and traitors as they are - the uniparty deep state, who have nothing but CONTEMPT for We The People. Sickening. But I pray their comeuppance is at hand.
Have you ever read any of Marty Armstrong's newsletters, Fred? The 'powers behind the POTUS throne' asked Marty to 'vet "W" in late 1999 and when he gave his succinct opinion of the 'candidate to be' as being "dumb"....the power wielders countered with, "Yes...we know...but he has the NAME that wins elections"....so there ya go!! It's all about "retaining power" and not abiding by the Constitution or crafting legislation that benefits the MAJORITY of WE THE PEOPLE!!
IMO, this is an important distinction because it was signed by Bush(R) and the R’s were in control of Congress. It shows how the Democrats are not the only problem.
I'm waiting for the smoke to clear and for more insight from people like Jonathan Turley and others who use words like "penumbra" in every day parlance and have a shelf filled with book awards, as well as reaction from Alex Berenson, among others. As I stated in an earlier reply, I see the decision as a highly technical procedural cop-out that didn't address the First Amendment issue or the actual evidence. The dismissal was procedural, not on the merits. Is it really as devastating as it's being interpreted?
I found this paragraph telling:
"The challengers contend that the restrictions that they experienced in the past on social media platforms could be attributed to the defendants and that the platforms will continue to censor their speech. But the court rejects that, saying that the "platforms had independent incentives to moderate content and often exercised their own judgment. To be sure, the record reflects that the Government defendants played a role in at least some of the platforms' moderation choices. But the Fifth Circuit, by attributing every platform decision at least in part to the defendants, glossed over complexities in the evidence."
As I also stated previously, I'm still left wondering whether the decision simply leaves the door open to a new round of narrowly-tailored lawsuits against each individual platform and government defendant. With the tranche of recent disclosures by Elon Musk as reported by Alex Berenson, the door would seem to be open to this possibility.
Sadly the Courts do this all the time. Avoid the glaring Constitutional issues and pick around the edges, ruling on procedural aspects. Coward… so disappointed in Amy, Cooney Barrett and Brett Kavanaugh. We have gotten used to being disappointed by John Roberts. The only decent constitutionalists are Thomas, Alito, and Gorsuch.
You just encapsulated in five sentences, about a 10 minute conversation I had with my husband after learning about the SCOTUS ruling. Five minutes of it was my ranting while simultaneously nosediving down the despair hole. I've pulled out of the nosedive because as much as TPTB including SCOTUS Justices want me to despair and become demoralized, I refuse to succumb to their intentional malice.
My problem with it is - if the states don't have standing ... who _does_? Nobody will be able to "prove" that they were damaged by the government censoring their free speech by pressuring private companies to do the censoring on their behalf. I know the Berenson case is pending and has a chance, but seriously - this was a very clear violation of the first amendment by the executive branch.
I also think had this been the Trump administration defending it would likely have been a 9-0 decision that "no, the government cannot do this". :-/
The average person does. Or even the people who were de-platformed as a result of censorship and lost their livelihoods. That would definitely be considered damaging. I think we need to remember that, while these are private companies, they have become similar to town hall where people come to speak their mind and discuss issues.
Think about the 6-3 Justices. The 3 liberal were an automatic. Coney-Barret has 2 adopted Haitian babies (compromised), Kavenaugh has 2 adopted Irish babies (compromised), Roberts has been more inclined to put ANY case in a lock down because he's a coward (can't be disinvited from the elite cocktail parties) and may have been on Epstein Island.
Admittedly, the majority went through mental gymnastics to find that the plaintiffs did not have Article III standing:
"As already discussed, the platforms moderated similar content long before any of the Government defendants engaged in the challenged conduct. In fact, the platforms, acting independently, had strengthened their pre-existing content moderation policies before the Government defendants got involved. For instance, Facebook announced an expansion of its COVID–19 misinformation policies in early February 2021, before White House officials began communicating with the platform. And the platforms continued to exercise their independent judgment even after communications with the defendants began. For example, on several occasions, various platforms explained that White House officials had flagged content that did not violate company policy. Moreover, the platforms did not speak only with the defendants about content moderation; they also regularly consulted with outside experts."
However, I still see an opportunity for future, perhaps more finely tuned lawsuits against individual platforms and government officials, particularly as additional information regarding government involvement in censorship continues to be released. https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-411_3dq3.pdf
The other, larger, elephant in the room is whether traditional "public forum" analysis should be applied to social media. The argument always has been that social media is owned by private companies and that hey can do anything they want, including restricting speech. That logic seems to be implicit in Murthy as the majority opinion cited independent actions of platforms to censor content.
Missouri Senator Josh Hawley made a compelling argument that social media is the 21st Century version of the "public forum" and for extension of First Amendment protections to social media in his 2021 book, The Tyranny of Big Tech. Earlier, Benjamin Jackson made the following observation in his oft-cited law review article: "[P]ublic communications by users of social network websites deserve First Amendment protection because they simultaneously invoke three of the interests protected by the First Amendment: freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and freedom of association.” (Benjamin F. Jackson, Censorship and Freedom of Expression in the Age of Facebook, 44 N.M. L. Rev. 121, 134 (2014)).
I was waiting for Matt Taibbi's reaction and he delivered, as usual:
"The Supreme Court, irrespective of its partisan construction, has been shrugging at outrages to the Bill of Rights since 9/11. The national security establishment increasingly becoming a black box during that time has made these challenges harder. But kudos to the plaintiffs and their lawyers for attacking anyway, because terms like “traceability” and “nonjusticiable” and “special factors” are all the spy state has in its defense.
They’re wrong, they know it, and thanks to this case, the public knows it too, no matter what reprieve the high court gave them today."
Still, someone needs to develop some highly telling cartoons of the Supreme Court, analogous to the “NixonBurger court cartoon that so bothered the Burger court in 1976. Maybe we could have a conservative contest on this…
I think she’s a silly rich female elitist, who no doubt benefited from DEI to get where she is. And since she’s white and Catholic, she had to boost the DEI credentials by adopting a very dark African daughter and giving her ‘the talk’ about how racist Americans are.
Her Catholic school background would have given her plenty of traditional talking points about government. Unfortunately, she lacks the convictions and without a change of heart, she’s not going to be of much help.
ACB is undoubtedly a highly intelligent jurist based upon her academic credentials and professional background. She has also been portrayed as a constitutional conservative. However, she did write the following in her concurrence in Trump v Anderson:
"The majority’s choice of a different path leaves the remaining Justices with a choice of how to respond. In my judgment, this is not the time to amplify disagreement with stridency. The Court has settled a politically charged issue in the volatile season of a Presidential election. Particularly in this circumstance, writings on the Court should turn the national temperature down, not up."
This is probably why she sided with the majority to dismiss Murthy on Article III standing grounds. This may also be a clue on how she will rule on the immunity case.
Kavanaugh is a coward... but Roberts needs to be investigated... he is deeply compromised, perhaps over some smelly adoption or pedophilia... but some toxic lefty group is pulling his puppet strings.
***Exactly when do we think the government will voluntarily stop shooting up with the ultra-addictive power to coerce businesses and crush free speech???
*No threat to future speech!?
That's like the stock brokers who give that tired line about past performance... but then use past performance to sell you their latest concoction.
I long for the days when the CIA and FBI were agencies that protected American citizens instead of persecuting American citizens. The tides have turned into deadly, poisonous, rip tides when American taxpayer funded agencies are persecuting their own.
you long for what never was. perhaps you long for when you believed that. however at one time the persecuted were fringe activists and minorities that didn't affect the rest of us. now we're all fringe . . .
no speed bump to slow down for or divert around now, Security State can overdrive to INfojam and pre-bunk the cognitive infrastructure to steer proper views toward all issues including limits on "free" speech. The weak-kneed Bare-it has zero concerns, even Gorsuch "respectfully" dissents. Ho-hum, yawn and move merrily along
Comprised, they both have babies from foriegn countries (adopted) under shady circumstanses. Perfect for McConnell to reccomend to naive POTUS, control is evernything.
The Supremes "unjustifiably" refuse to address the threat to the 1st Ammendment.
I can hardly believe the middle judges sided with the leftwing socialist supporters on the 1st Ammendment.
Utterly disgusting. Her reasoning sounds like a 4th grader... seems to distort facts and completely act like the good ole' govy govy really doesn't bring any significant pressure to bear.
He made some bad personnel choices... he was a novice politician and get some corrupt advice from some corrupt assclowns. I think he knows better now and will rely on guys like Bannon and Nunes, maybe even Gorka and DiGenova... to vett his choices...
You liked Barry Obongo and Joe Biden better, moron?
Trump unleashed the plandemic on us, and championed Operation Warp Speed, is still proud of it. He also appointed Bolton, a known psychopath, and gave the keys to Fauci.
Trump is not an epidemiologist... he relied on some very malignant people, Fauci, Birx, etc... he is still making a mistake in not coming out against the Covid death-jabs... he is not perfect, are YOU, ahole?
Back then it was those ‘NeoCon Rhino Republicans’ who are still around, trying to keep running the Republican Party , that were and still are equally culpable!
The first time I remember hearing about the NWO, it was from his papa, George H.W. Bush.
People need to know that the Bush Cabel was behind the DeSantis campaign, which had been planned for several years. He was groomed to fool people into restoring power to the GOPe.
I know JC thinks he’s the cat’s pajamas, but everything is not as it seems.
To paraphrase Tucker Carleson in Australia this week,
…Anyone who would force you to take the COVID Vax, long after its been proven to be neither safe nor effective, I mean, what wouldn't they do to you? They've shown who they are.
Praying that your latest lawsuit is another victory. Substack and suits - that’s what coffee and covid does. This is my favorite line: “the Biden Administration is like an intellectual desert where they bury nuclear waste in discarded Round-Up barrels”. The regime is spreading hazardous radioactive waste around the world. Clean up starts in November.
Absolutely agree. Way to go! Someone has to take the bull by the horns and get some of these no-good, terrible awful laws deleted. Prayers for success and peace for you personally.
On another note, your sense of humor slays me! You always make me laugh at least once.
The Supreme Court on Wednesday rejected a Republican-led effort to sharply limit White House officials and other federal employees from pressuring social media companies to remove posts from their platforms that the U.S. government deems problematic.The Supreme Court on Wednesday rejected a Republican-led effort to sharply limit White House officials and other federal employees from pressuring social media companies to remove posts from their platforms that the U.S. government deems problematic.
Just like the 2020 election cases-states against other states. Literally why we have a SCOTUS, the founders wanted to have a court that could settle disputes between states w/out going to war.
I haven't read any details yet but am wondering if the SCOTUS feels it is up to the media people to refuse to be intimidated. If they do an then are harmed, maybe that is what is needed. Proof of harm as opposed to the "subtle" ways they have done it in the past. That the Twitter Files exposed much of it "may" be enough to halt it... we can only hope.
I appreciate your attempt to spin it into a positive. My concern is that just like both parties in Congress, the FBI and CIA and the Pentagon the Supremes are also complicit in deceiving us. All about $$$$ and control.
I won't argue with you on that. I just keep hoping that we can turn this ship around and find some smoother waters to be able to breathe for a while. I am so tired of the chaos (IMO, not of the making of the right of center people).
Such a disappointment. ScotusBLOG's liveblog said the other Justices thought you can't combine the defendants into one group, nor the plaintiffs, if I recall correctly. Maybe they can refile individually, then, and see what happens. Gorsuch, Thomas, and Alito were the dissenters.
The only way I'd support student loan forgiveness is if all of us who actually worked our butts off and paid our student loans back get a 100% refund, including interest for the years it's been paid. It wasn't easy, but many of us had to work whatever crap job we could get after getting out of college to pay back our loans. We signed a contract. Contracts used to mean something.
Jeff Childers nailed it, allow them to be discharged in bankruptcy like any other consumer debt. Bankruptcy is a complicated process with real consequences so it's not a "get out of jail free" card for irresponsible borrowers. There is some pain involved. The other huge problem is the government guarantee that protects the lender in case the borrower defaults. It's a racket similar to the vaccine indemnity law that protected pharma. The risk isn't held by the industry (lenders in this case) so they behave recklessly and lend hundreds of thousands to people who have shown no ability to pay it back.
Usury is ugly and frankly immoral. Read what the Bible has to say about lenders and borrowers. Read how their were regular jubilees where it was required that debts be forgiven. Yet people will defend multi-billion dollar credit card companies and banks when they entice some foolish twenty-something into racking up tens of thousands in debt. They sneer at these kids forgetting that they were once young and dumb, or maybe these kids weren't blessed with wise parents like they had.
I listen to Dave Ramsey pretty regularly and we follow about 90% of his financial advice. The number of normal people calling in being crushed by student loan debt for worthless degrees is heartbreaking. These people took out these loans in their late teens/early twenties when they had no idea how the world worked. They were preyed upon by lending institutions that targeted them. Should the taxpayer bail them out? No, but why should a lender or the university be protected when they duped these kids into mortgaging their future at age nineteen?
My nineteen year old son is an engineering major at a respected state university, we are cash flowing his tuition (which is very reasonable actually). He lives at home. He gets at least four unsolicited letters a week from banks/credit card companies trying to put him in debt. Because my wife and I are wise, they go straight from the mailbox to the shredder. There is no way in hell we would let these dirtbag companies have even the slightest opportunity to make him just another debt slave. Fortunately also, he attended a biblical Christian high school that used Ramsey material as part of the economics curriculum. So he gets it. Most kids aren't so fortunate.
Older folks, particularly boomers, please think about this; what would you have done if a company offered you hundreds of thousands of loans at age nineteen? Would you have had the wisdom to turn them down? Before you say "of course" please really think about it. Most of us never had the opportunity to rack up this type of debt back then as it wasn't even available to us. Our kids and grandkids are not so fortunate, they are targeted for debt slavery from an early age.
No loan forgiveness, but let them be dischargeable and make the lenders take the hit. Even better, go after the Universities (particularly obscenely expensive private schools) that deceptively marketed worthless degrees to nineteen year old kids while pushing loans on them. What was done to an entire generation was despicable, as usury in clearly condemned in the Bible. And for goodness sakes, stop defending these lenders and understand what happened to many foolish but otherwise well-intentioned kids. These lenders are our common enemy.
I will go a step further: many should not even be in college, much less take out a life-crushing loan to do so.
I have to believe many with loans see themselves as victims, and revel in the attention of their "Oh, poor, pitiful me" laments.
I no doubt am an insensitive lout, but I do not think student loans should be for every subject studied.
I would be 100% A-OK with loans for STEM, accounting, and other worthy societal-important needs. In fact, for a STEM student who maintains at least a 3.0 on core subjects, stays out of (felony) trouble, stays gainfully employed, stays current in IRS obligations, and makes payments on time for 10 years, a full forgiveness of the balance. THEY benefit society, not the slackers with bullspit degrees we see protesting in the streets for the Next Thing.
My idea is to make schools, especially those with huge endowments, underwrite their own loans. This would serve several purposes: to offer degrees that can actually support repayment, to be discerning to whom they offer loans, and to get the government out of the university business. It would also shrink universities because they wouldn’t be offering these crap degrees like women’s studies.
Two of my kids went to Hillsdale. It does not accept any federal funding and therefore does not issue any federal student loans. They offer private loans which they self-fund. My kids had to pay back Hillsdale directly.
Exactly. If these schools knew they'd likely get stiffed on repayment if the degree didn't have a good ROI, they'd be much more selective in who they loaned money. That feedback mechanism is completely missing now.
Most people need some sort of post-high school training to learn a marketable skill. But you are exactly right that it's often not a university degree, for many a trade school, apprenticeship, or the military makes far more sense. Plus if they are going to get a degree it needs to have actual value. Starting salary for a computer engineering major (my son's degree) is $100k/year and his degree will cost us $28k total ($7k/year at a good state university). That is a good value. But it's a hard degree and isn't just goofing off for four years.
I agree that there are plenty of people who feel entitled and that they now believe that they are owed forgiveness. I'm not talking about these people, but those who were foolish, had been lied to that they "were doing the right thing" and conned by a despicable, predatory industry (lenders/education). These people are in big trouble financially, and rather than viewing them all as spoiled brats (though some no doubt are), we should recognize they were manipulated.
When the public school system chose indoctrination over critical thinking, it all fell apart.
Maybe I'm just dark-hearted, but I have zero sympathy for anyone with a bullspit "degree" bought with massive student loans. These Mo Rons KNEW the chances of paying them back with a job in their field was pretty much zero based on those who went before.
Also place blame on the school recruiters and counselors for pushing that nonsense.
Curious how old you are. Although it was a long time ago, I remember how foolish I was at age nineteen. I also had parents that were clueless about money and were always broke. If someone had had offered me a way to get away from it all and attend a swanky university without paying for it now I probably would have jumped at the chance. Nineteen year olds do stupid things, particularly when their parents aren't wise.
Through God's grace, I was never offered that opportunity as most boomers of our age weren't. Most people over fifty really have no idea how the following generations were deliberately preyed upon. We act as if we were somehow wiser when in fact most of us avoided this scenario because it wasn't available to us.
I'm young enough to be impulsive, and old enough to appreciate it. ;-)
Look, few grow up in an environment 100% perfect. I didn't. Fact is that is the human condition for better or worse.
That does not mean idiots get off scott-free for their bad decisions. One Secret of Life is making more good decisions than bad. This is where critical thinking training comes in, and where modern "education" fails.
Life is full of carrots and sticks.
Fortunately, I grew up when education was about learning how to think than what to think.
Either choose which degrees are more important, or make everybody pay off their loans without exceptions. Pain is the best teacher.
I'm still OK that if a student defaults, the loan has to be repaid by the institution that got the $$$. No doubt statistics exist that shows who is most likely to default, and which degrees are most vulnerable to future defaults. That puts the schools in a position to vet future students and institutional offerings.
This goes back to a simple economic axiom: the more you subsidize something the more you get; the leas you subsidize or tax something, the less you get.
You could prolly gut 50% of higher edumacation centers and society wouldn't even notice.
Not scott-free, I'm not arguing for loan forgiveness where taxpayers pick up the tab. I'm saying that these loans should be dischargeable through bankruptcy like any other consumer debt. That should include the legal hassle and consequences of bankruptcy (e.g. having your credit seriously messed up for a period). These people did not repay an obligation and there should be a penalty for that (to teach them a lesson if nothing else).
They cannot do that now and people are racked with debt for decades based on foolish decisions they made when they were nineteen. Plus they were targeted by predatory lending institutions when they just became adults and had no clue what they were doing. This is what I'm talking about.
This isn't aimed at you as you never said this, but there are a few on here who lump all of these people into categories and "deadbeats" and "whiners". They have zero understanding of what people are going through, how they were manipulated, and how they were set up as debt slaves at age nineteen. No compassion, as if they never made a mistake. They preen sanctimoniously without ever considering that kids do stupid things, many kids have foolish parents who don't know any better, and that these kids were systematically targeted by the industry equivalent of loan sharks.
The Bible talks over and over about debt forgiveness and even had period jubilees where all debts were forgiven. It's called usury, and there's a recognition that a lender does not have the right to suck people into endless debt and hold it over their heads for decades. It's immoral and why we have bankruptcy provisions in the law in the first place.
No debt forgiveness, but allow bankruptcy that throws this back on the lenders. They lent nineteen year olds money for nearly worthless degrees without any regard to ability to repay. This is on them.
This is so true. I was such an idiot when I was a teenager. Even the things I did that seemed noble I mostly did out of self-absorption and righteousness. I once wrote an article about our school paper for a newspaper called (wait for it) The Class Struggle, and the boy who had asked me to do it, kept only my first paragraph and last. I got a call slip to the principal where this boy and my journalism teacher and the principal were yelling at each other. The principal asked if I wrote the Class Struggle article, and I told him no, and he forever thought me a fine upstanding student who didn't yield to peer pressure, but actually I thought the boy's article was poorly written and I fancied myself a fine writer, so I didn't want anyone to think I"d written that crap. Teenager. The boomers tend to forget that they were once that dumb and young.
I look back and just shake my head in disbelief at my behavior. My main priority at age nineteen was sex, drugs, and rock & roll (in that order) and I thank God that no one gave me the opportunity to borrow hundreds of thousands on top of it. Despite my behavior I was a pretty good student (good genes) so it would have been offered had these programs been available back then. Again thank God they weren't as the very idea is absurd, I had zero ability to repay them.
Fortunately I hit the wall at age 23 and was forced to grow up. Being plagued with decades of debt from those years on top of it would have been devastating.
I got a Paralegal degee and Criminal Justice degree at a state school (2014). After paying small payments monthly, I owed 9K. Covid hit and they suspended payments,, but not interest.
I now owe 29 THOUSAND dollars. No shit.
They'll take $85.00 a month for the rest of my life. Not kidding
Having worked in higher ed, most students have no idea about the marketability of their chosen degree, or that a graduate degree may be required to pursue their “passion”.
If colleges/universities did their real mission, teaching the true, the good, and the beautiful, the liberal arts ('artes liberales,' the knowledge needed to be and remain a free people [Latin 'liber' = 'free'], without which we would have no Western Civilization nor Declaration of Independence and Constitution, if they weren't treated like Vo-Tech for 'higher' education, so few would have the desire to go and study those subjects that they would all be downsized appropriately, and the other people could learn a lot through apprenticeships or vo-techs for computers sciences or something.
I agree. Long ago, 'higher education' was turn into a Grift Machine by admissions inflation. I wold have done better learning useful trades. My four years was an utter waste of time. And my real education? I got it on my own by reading. And also, from other people helping me by giving me tips on how to do something.
Limiting to certain degrees is akin to government picking winners and losers, and this has never worked out well in the long run. My kid's spouses, my nephew, and several friend's kids who did take out loans for useful degrees have made incomes that allowed them to pay their loans off pretty quickly. The whiners are generally those who either did a poor ROI calculation on the cost of the degree vs the pay they get for that degree or never finished. It's been a few years, but last I looked, 53% of those who start college don't finish.
Those "whiners" as you call them, made life altering decisions at age nineteen and likely didn't have wise parents to help them out like the people you mentioned probably did. How many nineteen year old are competent to perform ROI analysis? Were you at nineteen? Fortunately, no one in a million years would have loaned me that kind of money when I was nineteen. I was completely unqualified and unprepared to make those kind of decisions.
I have to be honest, this is why the younger generation cannot stand boomers as they seem incapable of understanding how things have changed in forty years.
Even at 19, you should be smart enough to ask yourself how you are going to pay off a loan BEFORE you sign on the dotted line. That is simple common sense, not a complicated ROI analysis.
But I think a lot are just going with the flow; having been told they MUST have a four year college degree to live a good life.
We raised our kids to work for what you want, did not helicopter parent, and still, at HS graduation they were not fully autonomous. But we did insist that they choose a course of study that had market value IF they wanted our help. My mom was one of 6 girls born in the 1920's and 30's and she was the only one of her sisters who did not get married right out of HS. (moved to the 'big city' with some room-mates and got a job, married by dad at age 23, and that was rare to wait that long at the time) I could not even fathom my kids getting married and being self-sufficient at 18. Delayed maturity is definitely a thing.
You would rightly assume that 18 and 19 yo students would carefully consider how they intend to repay their student loans. But I know they don't. Even though the college loan offices talk to students about it and students have to sign documents that indicate they understand, I learned in classes from listening to these kids that the loans are simply shrugged off. It's a time too far away from them to mean anything. They just don't get it. I have wondered if it's because their frontal lobes are not fully developed. Hillsdale and Grove City colleges got it right when they both decided to reject all federal regulation and loan money to students directly. I think doing so means that both schools are fully invested in good teaching and good results from it. I'd like to see their loan payback rates and I'd bet they are close to 100%.
Well, I am gen-x (but go ahead and toss out the OK boomer comment, lol) and I DID do an ROI calculation at 19. My parents didn't go to college, provided zero guidance, and I started out as a biology major. Discovered that a bachelors in biology had very little value in the job market so I switched to business as I wanted to make sure I could get a job without having to go beyond a bachelors.
What has changed:
-College was affordable in the 80's (loans were more rare and harder to get, it's loans that have fueled the increase) - between scholarships and working 2 jobs I was able to cash flow college but I ate a lot of ramen and lived in a dilapidated house with a bunch of roommates and drove a rust bucket car.
-Back then, get a degree, any degree and you will come out ahead was still a reasonable argument. That is no longer the case, as welders, mechanics, plumbers, etc are out-earning many college grads. Kids need to know that.
-Luxury expectations: today's dorms and campus amenities & services are way more luxurious than the standard cinder block closet that passed for student housing 40 years ago. This is baked into the cost.
I am not going to make excuses for this generation of delayed maturity, safe space seeking children who are currently being coddled by a society that seeks to insulate them from the real world and not hold them accountable. Yeah some lose the capable parent lottery but that has been the case since the beginning of time. One of my friends grew up in and out of the foster care system and today has a master's degree and a successful career. Making excuses for people's poor choices at any age does NOT benefit society.
BUT: who decides what 'benefits society'?? Just like a start up business who comes up with a product that customers vote for with their wallets becomes successful, whereas those who think they have the next best thing that it turns out few will pay for will fail, the job market will reward those who bring a valued skill into the marketplace. And it's not just the degree, it's the person - their work ethic, their attitude, and their aptitude. I know people with useless degrees who have been successful despite never using their degree. Heck, an IT degree is obsolete almost as soon as the ink dries on the certificate. Education doesn't end with formal schooling.
But yeah, totally OK with scrapping the loan idea altogether. Give tax credits for scholarship donations if you want to argue that disadvantaged students need help. I'd trust a scholarship vetting process over any Fed program.
Oh for sure. My friend's daughter went $50K into debt for a useless art degree and she will probably die of old age before she ever pays off her loans. She and her hubby have money for ATV's, tattoos and fancy vacations but then whine excessively about the hardship of paying off those loans. Oh and she is not even working right now as she is a stay at home mom with 3 kids. They are living in a house his parents own and are renting to them at $500 a month. Of course she is a leftist.
Yep. And she started out banning my unjabbed friend from seeing her grandkids at first, but then recanted as she needed a babysitter. My friend puts up with a lot of crap from her, she is a saint. My daughter is a lib too, but she has managed to retain some level of sanity, thank goodness.
Maybe the loan maximum could correspond to the average salary of people with a particular degree? Just an idea I am throwing out there that came to mind 🤪
I've thought that a better model for the 4 year undergraduate degree would be that majors could not be declared at all. Instead, students would study in every discipline from math to literature to chemistry over their 4 years and if something emerged as a special interest, a student could go on to earn a masters degree in that discipline. Specialization is what an MA or MS is all about.
I know that of course. But the fact remains that there can be a lot of relatively useless “fluff” among the more useful courses. Maybe there should be different tracks for people who aren’t sure what they want to do or have a desire for a broader liberal arts education.
I could almost agree with you, but it's STEM folks who cry to "Follow The Science!" (TM). Fauci is a STEM person. Science doesn't tell you what is true, what is good, or what is beautiful. The Nazis had science, and look what they did with it. Guess what you study to understand the true, the good, and the beautiful? Liberal arts! (which include math/science). "Liber" is Latin for 'free,' which makes sense when you think of words like liberty. Same word root. In the *really* olden days, the 'artes liberales' were the subjects considered necessary to know and understand in order to be and remain a free people. So philosophy, history, and religion, correctly taught and understood, are really the linchpins for a good society.
In the old days, I agree. Nowadays, I’ll believe they have critical thinking skills when I hear the ideas come out of their mouths. There are people who gave up everything to tell the truth. People just have to choose. “Our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor” were real sentiments, not just words.
Not everybody needs and should go to college and they hard push it in the high schools for everyone to go. I fought back and told the HS that all these kids can't really go and to leae my daughter alone. She can to go college whenever she wants.
Honestly, I went to college, my husband didn't, yet he makes 3-4x what I ever made. Well, TBH, I became a teacher for my family planning and it worked out, but these days I would NEVER go into that field.
Trade school, business running, etc is very lucrative when you need your plumbing or a/c or foreign car fixed.
Trade schools need to be brought back into vogue. It’s difficult to find plumbers, electricians, mechanics, carpenters, etc. not just for businesses but for the average Joe or Jane. If everyone goes to college who are you going to call when your toilet backs up? When your transmission goes out? Time to push to bring back trade schools in your community.
There aren't many good trade schools anymore, but businesses often train you for FREE. Several of my son's friends are doing very well now.
One works at FPL, another repairs commercial a/c's, and another went into the tree trimming business. None went to college or even trade school but they got their butts out there and worked without handouts or expecting something for nothing.
That tide is changing in our district - one of the few things they are getting right. There is a trend nation-wide, towards 'diploma plus' - The premise is that HS students graduate with a traditional HS diploma PLUS what our district calls a 'market value asset'- an industry-recognized certification. In some cases, the students actually work part time in their field of study and get credit for the work they are doing. Local businesses partner with the district and in some cases hire them full time when they graduate. At this point diploma plus is not required but strongly pushed.
My daughter went to private school and then 11th and 12th went to public but into the dual enrollment at the vocational school for cosmetology. She likes it a lot for now and can always do something else later. It is good to have facials... LOL
Our local schools must have this. When our homeschooled son was of the appropriate age, I called the school to find out about the shop classes. They don't teach shop. They don't teach home ec., either. They push those computer-skills 'certifications.' We do have a stellar vo-tech, but you have to 'track' in it, not take a "what any adult should know about wood/metal shop, simple home repairs, and car mechanics" class. And our local food bank director told our homeschool club not to give them flour - "They don't know what to do with it." So instead they buy $4 loaves of bread, I assume.
Well yes, they use employers as the classroom. Practical arts is pretty limited. We have several manufacturers in town who do employ students part time in entry level roles, as well as various small businesses and a few larger ones, and there are a couple of different vo-tech options that are available to students in our district even though they are located in adjacent districts, and then our district has a 'tech academy' where they can do pre-engineering, graphic arts, various HC & IT certs and they just rolled out an aviation track at the local airport (not the main KC airport, it's prop planes and small jets only)
Yeah, if only we could get the district to drop all the DEI crap, finally address the deficiencies in the reading curriculum, and start enforcing the student handbook regarding discipline, it would actually be a very good district. There are some very good people thrown into a bad system.
If you want a guaranteed vocation try garbage (cleaned up title: waste removal) or dead bodies (funeral, cremation, etc) There will always be garbage and dead bodies
If you have college age kids and they are considering student loans, or you are considering Parent Plus loans, *please, please, please* watch this video from Ramsey. It's a documentary on how student loans destroys people's lives. Don't let your kids (or yourselves) fall into debt slavery.
I sat in meetings on our campus when the Director of Admissions referred to students as "customers." The policy regarding admissions was pretty simple: take anyone who walked in the door, pulse optional. All students had to sign documents stating that loan paybacks were not an option. Bottom line: the colleges all got their tuition money. It's all a grift on the part of lenders and colleges.
Ironically, it was Joe Biden, then senator of Delaware, who helped make bankruptcy laws tougher, since he was from a state whose economic was/is primarily bank and credit card company driven.
I graduated from William and Mary in 1997. My all-in cost for those 4 years was about 40K. One year now for an in-state student is around 45K. One year! It’s the most expensive public college in VA these days.
Agreed 100%. In my early 20’s it was hard for me to pay back my loans. I stumbled a few times. I had to borrow money from my Dad at one point. I missed payments, accrued penalties and ultimately negotiated a settlement with the loan company to pay it off at once, which I had to borrow money from a bank to do. But I did it! I paid it off with MY OWN sweat and tears. Then I paid to put my wife and kids through school. I’d want All that money back if everybody else is getting freebies!!
Similar story here… paid mine off even after a bankruptcy in my twenties because it wasn’t allowed to be discharged with the rest of the debt… so I finally paid it off in my late thirties… and this is the reward?
hahahahahahahaha! TRUE! I just told my SIL yesterday do not send your kid to community college because they will
waste more time there. She mentiomed trade school and I highly supported. I told her so much of what they want you to learn is a load of crap. Its a waste of time and money and if you can read write and mutiply then just learn your skill. Done!
In my industry there are crazy entitled people suing coffee companies because they have to pay more for alternative milk in their coffee. ‘It’s discrimination against people who can’t drink cows milk’ (waa waa waa 😩)
Simply put, alt milk costs about double, idiots! It’s simple economics and business 101.
But Equity! Lol. People want something for nothing just because they think they’re entitled to have it.
"There is in fact a manly and legitimate passion for equality that spurs all men to wish to be strong and esteemed. This passion tends to elevate the lesser to the rank of the greater. But one also finds in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to want to bring the strong down to their level, and which reduces men to preferring equality in servitude to inequality in freedom."
Human beings are born with different capacities. If they are free, they are not equal. And if they are equal, they are not free. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
And that's also our education model! For equality, one must level the field by bringing others down to raise others up. Dumbing down, lowering standards, diversity hiring... leads to the OPPOSITE of excellence.
BTW, most of us would like to support your PREP Act suit.
Would you humbly appoint someone to handle a multiplier for your firm?
Doesn't that Alexis de Tocqueville quote describe perfectly why we are where we are, sadly, and why Congress is where it is, while we cry in frustration about the ineptitude and lack of courage not only in Congress but in the general population. Sigh.....
Why are these people suing coffee companies for the milk THEY CHOOSE to put in their coffee. I don't understand. Are these coffee companies forcing people to use certain milk products?
On a related note, what about the lawyers who come up with these crazy lawsuits. Don't they have any shame?
Sorry for long link I don’t know how to shorten. I think the argument is they aren’t really choosing because of their lactose intolerant condition or whatevs. 🙄
Oh my goodness, so it's like a disability? My husband is a celiac (has been for 30 years and has been doing it long before gluten-free became a "lifestyle"). Obviously he has to order gluten free options at restaurants (e.g GF pasta or bread) which always come with an added surcharge. According to the logic of the coffee-drinkers, he could sue?? Insane.
After you copy and paste the link just move your cursor to the end and delete up to the question mark.
Boy, I’m gonna get rich, I’m going to sue coffee makers, ice cream shops, oh, and bread makers, cookie bakers, and pizza companies, cuz it’s their fault I can’t eat regular wheat or dairy, and the subs cost more. The list is incomplete, can’t wait to get started. It does piss me off that I have to pay extra for a gluten-free bun yet I don’t get a discount when I say ‘no cheese’ but life is tough buttercup, suck it up.
Well I would much rather be a “Karen” than a “Dick.” 🤣😂🤣 Actually, I just wish all the name calling and generalizations would stop. There are better ways to insult people.
Btw: I haven’t looked up the YouTube description so not trying to offend.
Right? But in learning to adapt to your own unique circumstances you lose the grand opportunity to play the victim and count yourself among the oppressed.
Snowflakes don’t understand reality because it is too offensive to their fragile egos. Their lust for equity literally severs their understanding of simple economics and business principles.
Why pay more for almond products when cow products are so cheap? Lolol
Why not sue Rolls Royce because their cars aren’t affordable enough for all the illegal immigrants?
Who decides what is equitable these days???
Who decides the most equitable outcomes?
Trump should sue Bragg for not prosecuting equitably.
Equity doesn’t coexist with fairness or justice.
America stands on liberty and JUSTICE for all, not equity.
Snowflakes have been brainwashed. Also, without Christianity a person isn’t taught to be joyful in the good things AND the bad. Happiness and joy are dependent on what’s outside of them rather than knowing true happiness comes from the same place that also provides eternal blessings. Atheism breeds laziness, envy, greed and contempt.
He is pandering to all the "deadbeat" socialists. I would like my mortgage paid off too so how about the government start paying off everyone's homes? Oh right, they would never do that because owning a home is the key to being comfortably wealthy.
Kathleen: How many votes did Ed Gainey buy (at discount) via Bethel AME Church? I understand they have a productive ballot-generating concern there, already building on their 2020 successes in prep for November 2024.
That was one of the churches I emailed when the story broke about the University of Pittsburgh sewing dead/live baby parts on the backs of mice. A special request had gone out for "minority" baby parts.
Bethel AME church never responded to my email...I still have the email I sent.
I remember that scandal and Pitt's response: all regulations were followed, which I took to mean, that Pitt was actually sewing baby parts on the backs of mice. I was on the Pitt faculty at that time at one of their regional campuses. Our local PA representative (Warren County) to the General Assembly tried to bring this to the attention of the state government, but nothing came of it. Do you have any further news of this practice? I live too far from Pittsburgh to have heard of anything; Pitt, of course, has remained silent. Another question I have is whether Children's Hospital is doing trans-gender surgeries, but I haven't been able to confirm it.
Reading that, I'd say you're right. Three years ago, I called CH/Pgh and pretended to be the mom of a 13 yo boy who wanted to transition to being female. I was unable to get any information at all over the phone; they wanted "us' to make an appointment. I would love to get Chris Rufo to focus his spotlight on Children's in Pgh.
The garbage that passes for 'infrastructure' is truly head shaking. We have roads, bridges, dams (see Rapidam dam in MN), and the grid all in dire straits, but hey, lets drop money on shared use paths.
Same here in Mpls. We have one street here where two lane traffic is down to one lane. However, there are two very wide bike lanes. You play Russian roulette driving down that street.
Who actually pays for the electricity for these stations anyway?
They might have to spend a lot of money on consultants, studies, and other grifters before they actually "build" anything, hence the delays and $$$ price tag.
And the shared use paths are a joke in winter. My hubby is a runner, and in the winter, snow plows toss the snow from the roads onto the shared use paths, rendering them a minefield of ice boulders and slick spots so he can't even use them. And we get less snow than Detroit where they will be even MORE useless.
The whole thing is utterly delusional like most of the green grift, and the mayor is touting 20 minute neighborhoods, with no sidewalks here and 7 months of winter, and no plowing of side roads until snow gets to 3 feet. No one rides bikes, but Klausy wants the Motor City transmogrified into a hub for Agenda 2030 or something as a sort of showcase. They got funds to transform the park near me, a haven for sex addicts and drug running, into bike lanes, and created a hill, which we call Mt. Gentrification, that has no purpose at all. It is a veneer, an appearance, not rooted in reality at all, and now there's an artist in residence who specializes in "spatial equity" She put up an arch made of recycled stuff, actually sort of a good public education on microplastics, but "spatial equity" isn't that colonialism? They could alleviate poverty, the damage being inflicted by money printing, work on gun violence, or freaking education, which is pride and social emotional learning, but no, bike lanes. This works at Google HQ in Mountain View CA because it maybe rains for a minute in February, but riding bikes in 20 below? They are lobotomized.
Same here - they are putting in 'road diets' to add in bike lanes. Other than recreational cyclists on Saturday mornings I NEVER see a bike in those lanes. It was close to100 degrees here the past several days. It rains a lot in the Spring and Fall. It snows in the winter. I know ONE person, a friend's son, who occasionally bikes to work 2 miles or so away on nice days, to save money but those days are not the norm.
This is all coming down from 'Central Planning.' Here is APWA (American Public Work Assn), which lots of public works directors belong to, go to their meetings, conferences, and webinars and then push the crap on a public that doesn't go to the public works or city council meetings and then wake up one day to find fewer lanes on the roads. https://www.apwa.org/resource/what-you-need-to-know-about-road-diets/ There is also an association for city planners, and the urban land institute, and others who are all singing from the same song book.
Thanks, didn't know that about the PW employees. Typical, though. Central Planning....do these Plans come in 5 year increments, like Uncle Joe's back in the 1930's and 40's?
Oh I just called it that to draw the parallels to the old Soviet Union. Our city updates its comprehensive plan at great expense every 10 years or so. But the ink is barely dry on it before some developer who has much of the council in their pockets shows up looking for a zoning change. Then, yeah, each major department has 5 year plans. They do ask for public input. but it's hard to motivate people to bother to even go online and make a comment. Sigh.
I'm guilty of that too. I moved to a new home last year that has an HOA. The previous owners left some documentation on the HOA, but I haven't bothered to read it. I am starting to wonder what my annual $175 is really paying for, so I'd better dig that stuff out.
You're right about the public being apathetic. People are too "busy" with more personal matters to think about community-wide issues. Which is what government is counting on.
Not a top priority "infrastructure" improvement. I'm certain people within the cities can see what is falling apart around them and they're not impressed either.
A Mercedes is the same as investing in our most important legacy & our future?? Most other 1st world countries pay for educating their youth. The student loan scam in this country benefits the banks & the higher education institutions. The students are victims of this crime. Who can afford to go to college these days? Student loans are often the only way kids can get an education & they are persuaded by the colleges to take the loans. Upon graduation they are strapped with these loans often for a lifetime. We can send billions to other countries but don’t invest in our children. Jeff, is correct with the bankruptcy laws. However, we wouldn’t need them if we valued our children & the future of this country more than a Mercedes.
Was once in a bankruptcy hearing where the judge tore a new one for a lawyer proposing a Ch. 13 Plan for his clients who'd bought two new Mercedes just before filing.
When the lawyer explained that his clients' Mercedes were 'not the expensive ones" I physically flinched in anticipation of the tirade from the bench.
What will flip this on its head is if far more kids start going through trade schools or just starting businesses without going to school! I have 2 degrees and Lord knows I support trades far more. The exception are the fields that require extensive education such as medicine and law to practice.
Lisa Ca, even those used to be based more on the apprenticeship method. Given what's happened to both medical and legal education, both should be largely s__t-canned. (I speak as a retired physician.)
Other countries also tend to restrict far more than we do who can get into universities. And they don’t have sprawling campuses with fancy housing options, all kinds of recreational opportunities and especially sports. Not to mention DEI staff, student loan staff and all the rest of the university bureaucracy. So a lot of things would have to change in our system to make it equivalent to other places in the world and lower costs.
Exactly, RL. Back in the late '70s, I was stunned to find out from my New Zealander friends that only the top 2% of their high school graduates could go to university. (And why? Because it was 'free,' i.e., taxpayer-funded.) They were stunned to find out that Americans can go to college any time they feel like it, throughout life. No wonder we have such socio-economic mobility.
Actually, Kathleen, I did get the sarcasm. My post included it too. I probably am good at sarcasm but try to use it sparingly when someone enlightened me that the definition of sarcasm is to ‘tear flesh.’ I had a friend (doctor) with 2 small children that committed suicide over her school loan debt so I was reactive. I do believe we are on the same page about this & I apologize if I detracted you from the issue at hand. ✌️
I did post the comment a couple of times about how much football coaches get paid - millions of dollars. Oftentimes, more than the university president.
Just a question maybe you or someone else could answer.
Do universities in the UK, France, Germany, etc., have sports teams?
If not, then they are truly focusing on just education.
as a huge fan of sarcasm, sadly I'd say its counterproductive in these often heated, type before you think comment streams. depending of course on what one wants to produce in the first place.
Wow, Merry, I think you're going to get ratio'd, lol.
How about this question: Do you hold the *colleges* to be responsible, at all, for their hugely inflated prices, *way* more than the inflation rate would have them, by miles? And what have they done with this money? They've hired *tons* of administrators at 6-figure salaries, to bureaucrat people to death. And what about the colleges with billion-dollar endowments? Might they be asked to toss in a bit of money, instead of the plumber, electrician, farmer, shopkeeper, waitress? If something is a true 'investment,' no one needs government to do it, because it will pay itself off, just like your own real investments. I value our children and the future of our country so much that I want my fellow citizens to know basic constitutional civics and economics.
If the athletic programs are bringing in millions, then the universities have the $$$ to lower tuition for everyone.
Most of those football coaches earn so much more than the actual president of the university. So, they are hypocrites when they say they focus on education.
Years ago, I remember hearing how much the Pitt football coach earned. Now Pitt is a good school. That is where I earned by BA with the GI Bill, but the average student now struggles to pay tuition.
I would be ok with forgiving the interest and/or reimbursing the interest of those who paid theirs off but I do NOT support what this Biden forgiveness implies - 'free' college. The only reason college costs have grown like a weed for the past 3 decades while the colleges themselves are majoring in grift and bloat is because of this overly generous loan program. People who borrow money need to pay it back, but if the premise of college is that it is a 'public good' why is it OK for the government to make money on it? Especially by charging rates higher than one could get a mortgage for for at least some of those years. It's, in effect, a back door tax. If we really want to get college costs out of the stratosphere, kill the loan program altogether.
BTW, my son had a loan for his last semester (that he promptly paid off) and my daughter had zero loans. We saved what we could in 529 plans, and the kids contributed to the plans from PT jobs in HS, they took gen eds at CC, they worked in college, a lot, and got scholarships. So, they too would be paying taxes that would go to those who did not plan, work, and save. Both of their spouses did have loans that they paid off, so they too are penalized with Biden's plan.
As a parent who put two children through college, as I believed was my obligation, (not without sacrifice), I abhor the so-called loan forgiveness by the Panderer in Chief. It enhances an already bloated sense of entitlement.
I agree Mary-Ann. We did the same for our 2 children. It took some huge financial sacrifices, but our frugality made it possible to offer them a debt free start. Meanwhile, our neighbor’s kids were taking out loans and flying off to Mexico for spring break. When the loans were due, they began the whining that they were victims of the times. Free will and free choice have consequences. There is no escaping that achievement involves sacrifice. It must be one’s own sacrifice and not that of others (fellow taxpayers).
My daughter spent a couple of years at a regional state university 10 years ago. Dorms, meals, amenities, facilities and on campus services were an order of magnitude higher/fancier than they were when I was in undergrad in the 80's. It's a place to get an education, not a resort. All these things contribute to the cost. My son went to a different regional university in another state and it WAS pretty bare-bones, and a lot more affordable. He didn't care - all he did was work, go to class, and hang out with his friends.
I grew up in NYC. In the 70s, the entire City University New York system with all its excellent and various specialized and liberal arts colleges were FREE to its residents. I got a wonderful education at no cost.
I made a comment above about the outrageous administration salaries. And the number of administrators per student. I think professors salaries are pretty high too.
I would even be more ok with professors’ salaries but the admin costs are ridiculous and unnecessary. Although, with the number of professors who are leftists and socialists, maybe their salaries should be limited so education can be “free” or at least cheap. Put your money where your mouth is leftist professors!
And the professors often get by without teaching a lot, as the colleges have come to rely on their adjunct faculty 'helots,' who do a ton of teaching for close to minimum wage, with no benefits.
Yes. I also want a refund for the portion of my Property taxes that went towards my local school district. My child never attended the government, oh sorry, public schools. Why should I have to pay for the education/indoctrination of someone else’s children?
Just wait and see what will happen with the collapse of commercial real estate.
Here in Pittsburgh, the assessments on commercial real estate went down because of vacancies. So the Pittsburgh school district had to give out refunds to the owners of the commercial buildings.
Now they want to come after the homeowners. The school board is calling for reassessments of the home values to drum up more tax money for the money they lost.
Right?? Same here. I am thinking more and more that public schools should be opt in rather than default. If your children do not attend public school or you don’t have children, you don’t pay into the system.
School districts are also not fiscally responsible and they aren’t even able to forecast five years into the future. I lived in one Northern suburb of Chicago. Two perfectly good schools were sold. Maybe three years later there was a boom. They brought asbestos filled trailers onto school grounds and many kids spent their day in one of the trailers while they voted and passed a bond to raise money for the their lack of management. Six years later I moved to another suburb. The High School was bursting at the seams. Kids were housed in the basement. There was an existing unused high school that could have been used, but it would have meant competition in the community. They couldn’t have two football teams. What?! Wouldn’t another school give that many more kids an opportunity for participation in team sports, band, cheerleaders, shake your pom poms, theater, student government, debate, etc. They voted and passed funding once again. Whatever you do though, don’t criticize teachers or nurses. For some reason they are to be revered over all other professions.
I have many teachers in my family (all dedicated and knowledgeable) and have taught as well. I think this putting teachers up on a pedestal is way over the top. It’s almost a cult like adulation in some circles 😕 Yes, some teachers are indeed amazing and make a big difference in their students lives. But some are mediocre or average. Some are lazy, nasty or abusive. The blanket statements about teachers all being heroes makes me roll my eyes every time 🙄
I’m torn on this. I never took out a loan. Never paid for college. I did some school with VA benefits but I have mixed feelings on that.
It’s because my parents taught us a healthy skepticism of the “education” system in general. When we finally went from homeschool to school in the 90’s, my dad would say in the mornings “time to go to indoctrination.”
Yet many kids were raised by parents who believed. And spent their entire childhood and early adult years told over and over and over by parents and schools “go to college to get a good job.” “Follow your dreams, make your reality.” It’s just what’s done. No questions.
It’s a cult. Do we blame kids raised in cults for being a cult member?
So for the people who were never once told otherwise… what do we do with them?
Yes good point. Schools, teachers, administrators, the culture at large all push the idea of college equaling success. And I am often disgusted at how many people with college degrees use that fact to sneer at those who don’t have one as being “uneducated”. That was part of the Covid cult attitude, people who didn’t have a degree or even those who did but in the “wrong” field, could not question those who did. It really burns me up 😡
No one talks about college administrators outrageous salaries and the number of administrators per student. Professor salaries are high too. We need to get those numbers down before we can fix or help the loan problem.
And I would rather see hard-working families helped out with egregious, unpaid medical bills, caused by someone supporting a family getting cancer, a car accident, etc.
Agreed, but who will ever address the absolutely sickening skyrocketing costs of college tuition? State Uni's/ community Colleges are part funded by government... our tax dollars are ALREADY subsidizing college "educations."
I still wouldn’t be for student loan forgiveness!! No one should be expected to take on the burden of someone else’s debts, regardless if it was for education or anything else! I paid for my own college and worked while going to school! These people who are begging for loan forgiveness are probably deadbeats who partied throughout college and have a useless unmarketable degree! Grow up and take responsibility for yourself and your decisions!
What does the lawsuit allege? The PREP act was not poorly conceived- it was a deliberate preparation for mass murder and the “vaccines” were never injections subject to approval in the first place. For that reason, most lawsuits have been dismissed by the courts.
I strongly encourage everyone to read Sasha Latypova’s articles on this issue. Here’s yesterdays for starters:
I believe the fact that the mRNA is not a vaccine would be key in any case. They identified the concoction as a vaccine because people worldwide are familiar with them and it is easy to sell familiarity. A true vaccine uses a very diluted strain of a live virus or alternatively a dead virus. The mRNA has NO virus in it so it was sold under false pretences. Add that to false advertising about ‘safe’ and ‘effective’ and no informed consent regarding possible death and many dangerous side effects and I am amazed this POISON is still being injected into people. It should have been off the market as soon as the VAERS reports came out. I am 🙏 that Jeff gets the PREP act dissolved so Big Pharma gets sued into oblivion.
Correct, and the recent 9th Circuit decision against the LA School District also removes many of the lower courts use of the 1905 SCOTUS Jacobsen ruling to uphold the COVID jab mandates if the plaintiffs (teachers & staff who refused the shot, in this case) can demonstrate that these shots do not stop transmission, which the CDC admitted in July of 2021 & Pfizer & Moderna never even tested for. Credit the great Leslie Manoonkian & her HFDF for supporting the case. They also got the masks removed from airplanes in early 2022.
Incorrect. The Prep Act allows for the creation of any biological without requiring safety, efficacy or approval. The FDA and CDC input was just for show and to help usher the injections through, but completely unnecessary as neither agency has the authority to comment on, much less denounce, a DOD procured agent.
False advertising? Irrelevant. This is not a “medicine” of any kind. It was a government order with all legal mechanisms in place to protect it from any scrutiny. Please read Sasha’s and Katherine Watt’s substacks to understand in particular detail what I am saying. It is not what we’re accustomed to from a legal or procedural stance.
Exactly. I don't know why we keep making excuses for them. All of this was a deliberate, self-conscious, decades long effort to commit mass murder for profit.
Dr. David Martin: Since 2002 coronavirus has been a man-made pathogen: “We have a commercially interested group of sociopaths who want to make money while killing people,” Dr. Martin said, “that’s the bottom line.”...
Intended Consequences: mRNA 'Vaccines' were Designed to Cause Severe Disease and Be Resistant to Antibodies:
Also, Kathrine Watt's Substack. She writes in depth about all the laws passed that lead up to this great debacle, plus what can and cannot be done about it and why.
The lawsuit alleges that the PREP act is unconstitutional for several reasons, as well as that the COVID-19 emergency declaration under the Act is a violation of the APA and therefore should be set aside (even if the constitutional arguments were to fail).
Best news ever! Will pray everyday that you succeed In destroying the PREP Act....blessings to you ...and the warriors KW and SL who have been so instrumental in alerting us to this Hideous Act..totally unconstitutional.
Seriously sir...we the people owe you an enormous debt....
“For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.”
Yes!! If we start out thinking it’s impossible, it certainly will be. No one who ever accomplished anything great or worthwhile set out with the attitude that they could never succeed.
Jeff we can never thank you enough. Can't wait to read your filing. Where there is risk THERE MUST BE CHOICE. I will never get over what this fiasco has done to all of us on so many levels.
I am disappointed, although not surprised, that the VA has made no effort to study how the covid plandemic, and the mitigation efforts, have affected veterans.
For every month of isolation, a veteran's chance of suicide increases.
Probably will take the VA 30 years to acknowledge the problem...just like it took them 30 years to acknowledge that exposure to Agent Orange was deadly.
The military is basically a guinea pig for lots of different 'science' experiments. It's sickening. Plus, they must have lots of good database info on these covid 'vaccines' but that's probably not going to come out for a long time either.
There were a couple of whistleblower who showed data… one was a flight surgeon regarding how it was effecting pilots. They got censored immediately. The military has the information as the military has only two contacts for medical. They will not show the data as it will show that they made a huge mistake.
It’s always way too late , usually when wrongdoing is discovered and there’s nowhere to hide, that they fess up and try to remedy damage. Just like the Camp Lejeune water contamination issues.
On their site it says “If you served at either of these locations between August 1, 1953, and December 31, 1987, you may be eligible for disability and health care benefits”.
Thanks Roger - I can't take the credit for that phrase but also not sure where I heard it. But it makes complete sense to me in the legal paradigm of informed consent (which is the standard in this country).
Well, if you did plagiarize it - even inadvertently - try the Claudine Gay defense. Or the Tracie-Hyphen-Jones Barrett defense. Or the Alade McKen defense. Most of the time, they save the culprit's career!
Good thought Roger. :P But seriously to me it's as common as saying the sun rises in the east. How the hell do we have informed CONSENT with mandates? With risk inherent to products created in less than a year and that have never been used before? It seems like consent would be even more important in that scenario. Where did the med mal legal practitioners go on this issue? Just bizarre to me.
Follow the money ... seems like nearly everyone in the fields has a price, and Big Pharma correctly identified it (using Joe Biden's F-15s as backup to take care of those few pesky noncompliant ethical holdouts).
Thank you for all you do on behalf of freedom, Jeff. Even for those of us not in the States, a step toward freedom anywhere is a gain for all of us. I don't know how you find time to do all that you do.
I know two people who lost loved ones due to the hospital death protocols. When they sought justice, they got nowhere. God Bless you Jeff. Due to your hard fought efforts, there just may be some relief on the horizon.
We lost my brother due to the lockdowns. They neglected to care for him when he had a bowel obstruction and my parents and SIL were not allowed inside to advocate for him. They tried to sue the facility but the health department backed them up and said they had acted appropriately 😡🤬
Very, very sad. I'm very sorry about your brother. I know someone whose 90 yr old mother was in the hospital 1 week before passing and they were not allowed to see her until AFTER she passed. Everyone of these people who did those things needs to be held accountable.
RL, I'm not sure when your brother died, but typically there is a SOL of 3 years for medical malpractice suits and even if the health department signed off on the incident, your family could still ask a plaintiff's lawyer to take a look at the case.
I'm sorry about your brother... it's horrible what's become of some of our hospitals. My elderly, non verbal mother with dementia was in the hospital twice since covid. They essentially were starving her to death. She needs one to once feeding and for fluids. I would go in to her room and the food tray would have been delivered hours ago and was completely out of reach even if she could feed herself. I was disgusted and pray i never need to be hospitalized.
Now I want to remind you, though you know all things, that Jesus, having once saved a people out of the land of Egypt, subsequently destroyed those who did not believe. And angels who did not keep their own domain, but abandoned their proper abode, He has kept in eternal bonds under darkness for the judgment of the great day, just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, having indulged in the same way as these in gross sexual immorality and having gone after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire. Yet in the same way these men, also by dreaming, defile the flesh, and reject authority, and blaspheme glorious ones.
Just between you and me, this passage is what finally helped me understand and head covering
I Corinthians 11:1-11.
But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God. Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoreth his head. But every woman praying or prophesying with her head unveiled dishonoreth her head; for it is one and the same thing as if she were shaven. For if a woman is not veiled, let her also be shorn: but if it is a shame to a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be veiled. For a man indeed ought not to have his head veiled, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man. For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man: for neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man:
1Co 11:10 for this cause ought the woman to have a sign of authority on her head, because of the angels.
This is about a sign of knowing and allowing our place in Gods design, of men and if women, to ALL of creation in the assembly of mixed worship. It's about gender. It's about design. It's about humility. Saved humanity, and unsaved are testifying to the nature and character of The Creator.
Great comment. As a modern American woman, and as a latecomer to Christianity, I struggle with this.
Friendly edit: "It's about sex." (not 'gender') The word 'gender' was highjacked, specifically to allow claims that "gender is a social construct." Sex, biological sex, is binary, notwithstanding that there are intersex humans born, etc.; they're 'inter' between the two biological sexes. We should take all of our words back, not just this one.
Enoch's book explains this well and how these so called enlightened elite know how to manipulate humanity by the secrets shared to their ancestors by these angels and they continue to use this knowledge against us to this day.
God knows and He will punish. Many are waiting in a torturous environment now till judgement day.
The stories of the Plaintiff's in Jeff's PREP lawsuit are so tragic. So many harmed by the Jabs. These handful of people are just many examples. Like Jeff Jackson, 49 in Lucedale, MS. He was a very active cell phone tower tech, climbing 400 feet up during 12-hour shifts.
His Moderna shot immediately caused his arm to turn purple. "When he woke the next morning, he had what felt like a terrible case of the flu. Within five days his skin began to peel off, a condition that
got worse until he was shedding his own skin as if he had a severe sunburn. The condition covered his whole body, including his face. It was painful, involving lesions and pustules on his armpits and inner
thighs and scabs all over his body. At the same time, his entire body discolored into various shades of pink and purple."
Finally he was diagnosed with lichenoid dermatitis and plaque psoriasis, along with joint disorder causing pain for any movement, and his teeth became brittle, breaking under pressure.
He filed a CICP claim to HRSA in 2022, but they've ignored him...
THUS THIS LAWSUIT. Thanks Jeff Childers for fighting for these people!
So awful what that poor man has been through 😞 And hearing in my mind all of the dismissive and smug responses of “side effects are rare” from the jab apologists makes me even angrier. As long as it didn’t happen to them, oh well, it’s just collateral damage 🙄😡
The History channel had an entire series " Finding Hitler" a few years ago. Many in Argentina remember the Germans there that still had the trappings of Nazis. May still be in the History channel app or History Vault. Excellent series.
Absolutely awful! Can't help but wonder, though, could it be that the poor cell tower tech guy was also harmed by the cell tower radiation as well as the jab, maybe the radiation worsened his jab-induced condition?
Pretty sure he wasn't climbing any towers after the injuries occurred, given how disabled he suddenly became. And there was no sign of harm prior, he remained fit and healthy. So any contribution of EMF would be highly speculative.
My final payment to my student loans was made on the exact day Biden signed the executive order forgiving them. It was a proud day for me personally - took roughly 15 years to pay off. But, I chose to make an investment in myself, and I alone was responsible for that. I would never, ever, have waived that responsibility nor expected others to pay it for me. I wonder how many people have had their loans forgiven when presented the choice - or planned to. It would certainly say a lot about what kind of person they are, and what principles they have, imo.
I just paid off my student loan in February, after 10 years! It was my loan - no one else’s. I knew when I signed the contract it was never going to be forgiven nor should it be. I knew what I signed. Every single person who takes out a student loan is made very aware that this debt does not ever go away until you pay it off or die. It is made very clear. We all willingly signed the contract. My degree did not pay off for me. Yes I am educated because of the classes I took but because of my circumstances I cannot get a job that makes that loan pay for itself. It. Does. Not. Matter. I still took the loan out willingly.
I fully believe that these colleges are pulling a deceptive and dastardly intent to charge students for classes they do not need to take. These degrees are put together full of garbage classes that students have to take and pay for when they have nothing to do with their specialty. It’s a waste of money. It’s a cash grab for these schools and they should be ashamed of themselves. The extra “fees” they charge adds to the deceptive practices. This college degree thing is a scam! I would never go back and redo what I did. Nor would I encourage a young person to do it. The education system is broken and needs to be demolished and rebuilt with common sense. And my degree is in accounting. A worth while degree.
That’s another thing different from universities in other countries that people keep saying cost so much less. You generally (from all of the countries I have experience with at least) focus on a specialization right away and don’t take “general studies” kinds of classes.
There is a lot of truth in what you said about the courses required for a degree (usually gen eds that make a well-rounded student—hard eye roll here). This speaks to meeting accreditation standards, set by the DOE (not sure which bureaucratic entity is responsible). If the degree is not accredited it has diminished value in the job market, (Bible College degrees are often not accredited). Most/all(?) professional licensure agencies require accredited degrees.
And that sense of accomplishment only comes from doing it yourself. Just like people who cheat will never have the satisfaction of having done a job well on their own.
It was what my mom used to say…probably because I was being lazy 🤣🤷🏻♀️ always stuck with me. Maybe she meant that everyone has a gift to use that can help you/others.
My huband used to "claim it." He thought it came from Scripture...
In a word, it cheapens God, our Father. God helps those who call upon Him in earnest, and those who cannot do as others can. He is enough. Claiming otherwise, cheapens His sovereignty.
I tried to claim a house about 20 years ago. Sort of in fun cuz I don’t believe in the name and claim it. But we were wanting to buy a house and it seemed like it could be in our price range if it was for sale. 🤦🏼♀️ God has a sense of humor because the next day I drove past that house and it was on fire. True story! 😂 It burned to the ground. I’ve never claimed anything ever again.
Prayers for overwhelming success on your most important lawsuit and thank you for raising it. It would be wonderful if Trump paid attention and brought it up in the debate including expressing his support for Prep Act abolition. It is indeed a most despicable and harmful "law".
Jeff, may God watch over you and your family. Thank you for fighting the Godly fight with this lawsuit,my family will be praying for a positive outcome.
Ditto on all of the thanks, appreciation, prayers and willingness to fight with such integrity. God bless you in this endeavor. You are a hero in my book.
ERRATA
— Fixed typo, PREP Act passed 2005 not 2015
Lord, please bless Jeff, his family and team, this community, and our future children. This is a big fight - praying you find endless support at every turn!
In Jesus name, I pray. Amen and amen! 🙏✝️🙏
Yes answer our prayers dear Jesus🙏Amen!
''Humanity is about to be tested....... mayankjeptha.substack.com/p/qbpe
AMEN and AMEN!!
Amen.
Signed into law by Dubya on December 30, 2005, while most Americans were at home enjoying their Christmas dinner leftovers and preparing for New Year’s Eve festivities. What a guy! Prayers for you and your team on this crucial lawsuit.
wonder when people will ever ever understand its 2 wings of the same drone that is headed directly for their demise?
Totally agree…I like to say “two cheeks of the same ass”…means basically the same thing, only not as ‘thoughtful’!
Been saying this since this way before the 2020 election and The Scamdemic. It was never a Democrat - Republican thing…it was a “one giant corrupt Congress” kinda thing…both in The Senate and The House!
The mantra in our U S Congress has been, "Go along to GET along" for probably over 100 years!!! I admire the Freedom Caucus and pray it will be growing in members in the coming years.
They're too indoctrinated. It's been going on for too long.
agree
Weird. Takes me back to when my fellow Republicans accused me of BDS (Bush Derangement Syndrome) for opposing DUHbya.
I believed he was a decent person. Hah! Was I fooled! Reading Joe Lange's research has opened my eyes to things I DID NOT WANT TO SEE, but now I see the swindlers, hucksters, and traitors as they are - the uniparty deep state, who have nothing but CONTEMPT for We The People. Sickening. But I pray their comeuppance is at hand.
That would be wunderbar - probably not in my lifetime though!
Do you have a book or resource to recommend?
Joe Lange on Badlands Media. So many who contribute to Badlands are excellent researchers.
same here
Have you ever read any of Marty Armstrong's newsletters, Fred? The 'powers behind the POTUS throne' asked Marty to 'vet "W" in late 1999 and when he gave his succinct opinion of the 'candidate to be' as being "dumb"....the power wielders countered with, "Yes...we know...but he has the NAME that wins elections"....so there ya go!! It's all about "retaining power" and not abiding by the Constitution or crafting legislation that benefits the MAJORITY of WE THE PEOPLE!!
I was blinded by desperate hope until the landslide reelection in 2004. After that, it was a continuous, ‘What the hell!”
PERP Act?
Zing! They probably had that in mind, like naming one of the vaxxes "luciferase" or whatever that was. Sorry, memory not perfect.
Bravo Mr. Childers!
IMO, this is an important distinction because it was signed by Bush(R) and the R’s were in control of Congress. It shows how the Democrats are not the only problem.
Yeah well....there's this:
BREAKING: Supreme Court Deals First Amendment Blow in Murthy v. Missouri – RedState
https://redstate.com/streiff/2024/06/26/murthy-vs-missouri-n2175961
The highest court in the land can not uphold the constitution or our most sacred God given right to free speech.
This country is over....unless.....we take it back. Not sure what that looks like anymore...but I don't think The Founders would recommend tiddlywinks
Who are we kidding
I'm waiting for the smoke to clear and for more insight from people like Jonathan Turley and others who use words like "penumbra" in every day parlance and have a shelf filled with book awards, as well as reaction from Alex Berenson, among others. As I stated in an earlier reply, I see the decision as a highly technical procedural cop-out that didn't address the First Amendment issue or the actual evidence. The dismissal was procedural, not on the merits. Is it really as devastating as it's being interpreted?
I found this paragraph telling:
"The challengers contend that the restrictions that they experienced in the past on social media platforms could be attributed to the defendants and that the platforms will continue to censor their speech. But the court rejects that, saying that the "platforms had independent incentives to moderate content and often exercised their own judgment. To be sure, the record reflects that the Government defendants played a role in at least some of the platforms' moderation choices. But the Fifth Circuit, by attributing every platform decision at least in part to the defendants, glossed over complexities in the evidence."
As I also stated previously, I'm still left wondering whether the decision simply leaves the door open to a new round of narrowly-tailored lawsuits against each individual platform and government defendant. With the tranche of recent disclosures by Elon Musk as reported by Alex Berenson, the door would seem to be open to this possibility.
Total cop out. Very good post. You're on point.
This country is in grave peril if the Supreme Court can not hold up the constitution.
The last and final institution that could be somewhat "trusted"...can no longer be trusted.
It's a beat down honestly no matter how any of our stack authors try to "dress" it.
We have our work cut out for us. I have no choice other than to "fight" for my children's future.
It's going to be a long battle. We should accept that imo.
And like President Trump says, “Never quit!”
Our quitting is their goal.
This decision by SCOTUS is very concerning, but we can't roll over and die. We have children and Grandchildren to fight for. ❤️🇺🇲❤️🇺🇲❤️🇺🇲
Absolutely. This is where the toughies will be separated from the wimps.
AGREE!!!!
Sadly the Courts do this all the time. Avoid the glaring Constitutional issues and pick around the edges, ruling on procedural aspects. Coward… so disappointed in Amy, Cooney Barrett and Brett Kavanaugh. We have gotten used to being disappointed by John Roberts. The only decent constitutionalists are Thomas, Alito, and Gorsuch.
You just encapsulated in five sentences, about a 10 minute conversation I had with my husband after learning about the SCOTUS ruling. Five minutes of it was my ranting while simultaneously nosediving down the despair hole. I've pulled out of the nosedive because as much as TPTB including SCOTUS Justices want me to despair and become demoralized, I refuse to succumb to their intentional malice.
YEEHAW you. We can't get demoralized-we've got a country to save.
Yes! For our children and Grandchildren! And ourselves!❤️🇺🇲❤️🇺🇲❤️🇺🇲
Hope is our weapon.
they realize they are just as susceptible to being suicided as anyone else
We need patriots who, like Patrick Henry, love liberty more than life.
My problem with it is - if the states don't have standing ... who _does_? Nobody will be able to "prove" that they were damaged by the government censoring their free speech by pressuring private companies to do the censoring on their behalf. I know the Berenson case is pending and has a chance, but seriously - this was a very clear violation of the first amendment by the executive branch.
I also think had this been the Trump administration defending it would likely have been a 9-0 decision that "no, the government cannot do this". :-/
The average person does. Or even the people who were de-platformed as a result of censorship and lost their livelihoods. That would definitely be considered damaging. I think we need to remember that, while these are private companies, they have become similar to town hall where people come to speak their mind and discuss issues.
Think about the 6-3 Justices. The 3 liberal were an automatic. Coney-Barret has 2 adopted Haitian babies (compromised), Kavenaugh has 2 adopted Irish babies (compromised), Roberts has been more inclined to put ANY case in a lock down because he's a coward (can't be disinvited from the elite cocktail parties) and may have been on Epstein Island.
Sorry can't go there. If the case was purely moot on standing, they could have decided to just not accept it and let it go.
Admittedly, the majority went through mental gymnastics to find that the plaintiffs did not have Article III standing:
"As already discussed, the platforms moderated similar content long before any of the Government defendants engaged in the challenged conduct. In fact, the platforms, acting independently, had strengthened their pre-existing content moderation policies before the Government defendants got involved. For instance, Facebook announced an expansion of its COVID–19 misinformation policies in early February 2021, before White House officials began communicating with the platform. And the platforms continued to exercise their independent judgment even after communications with the defendants began. For example, on several occasions, various platforms explained that White House officials had flagged content that did not violate company policy. Moreover, the platforms did not speak only with the defendants about content moderation; they also regularly consulted with outside experts."
However, I still see an opportunity for future, perhaps more finely tuned lawsuits against individual platforms and government officials, particularly as additional information regarding government involvement in censorship continues to be released. https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-411_3dq3.pdf
The other, larger, elephant in the room is whether traditional "public forum" analysis should be applied to social media. The argument always has been that social media is owned by private companies and that hey can do anything they want, including restricting speech. That logic seems to be implicit in Murthy as the majority opinion cited independent actions of platforms to censor content.
Missouri Senator Josh Hawley made a compelling argument that social media is the 21st Century version of the "public forum" and for extension of First Amendment protections to social media in his 2021 book, The Tyranny of Big Tech. Earlier, Benjamin Jackson made the following observation in his oft-cited law review article: "[P]ublic communications by users of social network websites deserve First Amendment protection because they simultaneously invoke three of the interests protected by the First Amendment: freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and freedom of association.” (Benjamin F. Jackson, Censorship and Freedom of Expression in the Age of Facebook, 44 N.M. L. Rev. 121, 134 (2014)).
Did the court discuss the massive amount OF CIA & FBI new hires?
Facebook, Google, and Twitter all had weirdly huge numbers of (presumably) former spooks
I was waiting for Matt Taibbi's reaction and he delivered, as usual:
"The Supreme Court, irrespective of its partisan construction, has been shrugging at outrages to the Bill of Rights since 9/11. The national security establishment increasingly becoming a black box during that time has made these challenges harder. But kudos to the plaintiffs and their lawyers for attacking anyway, because terms like “traceability” and “nonjusticiable” and “special factors” are all the spy state has in its defense.
They’re wrong, they know it, and thanks to this case, the public knows it too, no matter what reprieve the high court gave them today."
Still, someone needs to develop some highly telling cartoons of the Supreme Court, analogous to the “NixonBurger court cartoon that so bothered the Burger court in 1976. Maybe we could have a conservative contest on this…
No argument there. ACB in particular does not come across as the constitutional strict constructionist that Trump, among others, portrayed her to be.
As I’m sure, was portrayed to Trump that she was.
I think she’s a silly rich female elitist, who no doubt benefited from DEI to get where she is. And since she’s white and Catholic, she had to boost the DEI credentials by adopting a very dark African daughter and giving her ‘the talk’ about how racist Americans are.
Her Catholic school background would have given her plenty of traditional talking points about government. Unfortunately, she lacks the convictions and without a change of heart, she’s not going to be of much help.
ACB is undoubtedly a highly intelligent jurist based upon her academic credentials and professional background. She has also been portrayed as a constitutional conservative. However, she did write the following in her concurrence in Trump v Anderson:
"The majority’s choice of a different path leaves the remaining Justices with a choice of how to respond. In my judgment, this is not the time to amplify disagreement with stridency. The Court has settled a politically charged issue in the volatile season of a Presidential election. Particularly in this circumstance, writings on the Court should turn the national temperature down, not up."
This is probably why she sided with the majority to dismiss Murthy on Article III standing grounds. This may also be a clue on how she will rule on the immunity case.
I do believe there’s potential in the raw material of her background and that she is highly intelligent. Just not sure what’s motivating her.
Kavanaugh is a coward... but Roberts needs to be investigated... he is deeply compromised, perhaps over some smelly adoption or pedophilia... but some toxic lefty group is pulling his puppet strings.
The beatings Kavanaugh took in the confirmation hearings gave him Stockholm Syndrome.
We need to intensely pray for Kavanaugh and Comey Barrett.
There’s potential there beneath the damaged surfaces. I think they were both raised right.
I agree with your comment, although the like button isn’t cooperating right now.
Total cop-out.
***Exactly when do we think the government will voluntarily stop shooting up with the ultra-addictive power to coerce businesses and crush free speech???
*No threat to future speech!?
That's like the stock brokers who give that tired line about past performance... but then use past performance to sell you their latest concoction.
Hope you are correct in your assessment
I long for the days when the CIA and FBI were agencies that protected American citizens instead of persecuting American citizens. The tides have turned into deadly, poisonous, rip tides when American taxpayer funded agencies are persecuting their own.
you long for what never was. perhaps you long for when you believed that. however at one time the persecuted were fringe activists and minorities that didn't affect the rest of us. now we're all fringe . . .
We get the government we deserve. Vigilance and industry of oversight was neglected for far too many years of ‘bread and circuses’.
“What, me worry?”
Government by consent of the governed.
or we could grow up into responsible adulthood and govern ourselves.
no speed bump to slow down for or divert around now, Security State can overdrive to INfojam and pre-bunk the cognitive infrastructure to steer proper views toward all issues including limits on "free" speech. The weak-kneed Bare-it has zero concerns, even Gorsuch "respectfully" dissents. Ho-hum, yawn and move merrily along
They're a disgrace
Not to worry, Ryan. Our Great American Freedom Machine (aka the Constitution) will surely protect us, right?
Right?
You have a very entertaining way of saying things.
SCOTUS: Slimy Cowards Of the Unbearable Shit-show
https://open.substack.com/pub/billricejr/p/this-news-is-not-good?r=3dcv2&utm_medium=ios
So disappointing! ACB and Kavanaugh have been complete cowards.
We need to pray for their acquisition of courage.
Comprised, they both have babies from foriegn countries (adopted) under shady circumstanses. Perfect for McConnell to reccomend to naive POTUS, control is evernything.
The dissenting opinion is right...
The Supremes "unjustifiably" refuse to address the threat to the 1st Ammendment.
I can hardly believe the middle judges sided with the leftwing socialist supporters on the 1st Ammendment.
Utterly disgusting. Her reasoning sounds like a 4th grader... seems to distort facts and completely act like the good ole' govy govy really doesn't bring any significant pressure to bear.
Yes, we have to keep an eye on everybody. The war machine and big Pharma seem to have taken over both parties.
Its called the Uniparty and it was built to overcome and destroy the US Constitution.
there are no 2 parties. there is only an illusion of choice
President Trump is taking over the traitorous GOP. That’s why Paul Ryan and co. are losing their collective minds.
Patriots built the GOP. The globalists seized and perverted it. The fight is to get it back.
Starting a whole new party is an arduous and expensive task that the country is not up to at this time in history.
Honestly wasn't thinking of Trump but the last 44 years of working my ass off to elect GOP pols who did nothing they promised.
Trump is the same.
Give me a break.
Where in Israel is the American embassy now?
And consider:
Trump did the following:
1) stopped ISIS cold
2) EO stopping the drug companies from charging medicare more than what they charged foreign countries
3) EO forcing hospitals to disclose their prices
4) Move the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem
5) ENERGY INDEPENDENCE for the first time in my lifetime of 70 years, and record low energy prices
6) Started no new wars 6A) Abraham Accords, bringing peace to the middle east instead of war
7) Elimination of regulations, required to eliminate 8 to add a new one
8) Cut Taxes across the board
9) Increased the individual tax credit eliminating the need to file more complicated returns
10) Started the space force, sorely needed today
11) Replaced NAFTA with an agreement better for American workers
12) Put tariffs on china, starting the process of moving American production out of the enemy’s land
13) Brought back massive amounts of money saved in foreign countries
14) Withdrew from the farce know as the Paris Climate Accords
15) Withdrew from the Iran deal
16) Increased the $$$ of the average family by over 5K
17) Started the process of fixing the VA
18) Increased the spending by other NATO countries
19) Killed the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP)
20) Created several million jobs, actual creation not bafflegab bullshit
21) Economic growth rates were going up, somewhere around 4% before the marxist killed the economy with the scam chinaVirus
22) Lowest rate of unemployment ever, across the board for blacks, hispanics, asians, veterans, etc.
23) Opened ANWAR and had the Keystone pipeline being constructed
There is much more of course. Makes your pathetic attempt to paint Trump poorly look just like it is.
Your TDS is making you look foolish.
Thank you for this review of the things President Trump did for America!
This is the short list. There’s one out there that’s a few pages long.
And he did this while under constant attack from Democrats and the Republican establishment.
Good points, but Trump's support of the corrupt, evil jews is NOT a good thing.
Jews are not corrupt and evil any more than Americans or any other nation are corrupt and evil. They are individuals with individual lives.
Fred, I respectfully disagree. Review Willing Spirit's review. ❤️🇺🇲
How did Biden work out for you, Karen? You like him better?
Trump had a great 4 years... despite the constant attacks, traitor RINOs and the corrupt swine Fauci and Birx, and the turds of the WHO, CDC, FDA.
AGREE
So... no difference between Trump's 4 years and Biden's disaster?
Wake up.
President Trump is taking over the traitorous GOP. That’s why Paul Ryan and co. are losing their collective minds.
Patriots built the GOP. The globalists seized and perverted it. The fight is to get it back.
Starting a whole new party is an arduous and expensive task that the country is not up to at this time in history.
"President Trump is taking over the traitorous GOP. That’s why Paul Ryan and co. are losing their collective minds."
By pushing swamp creatures like Gov. Larry Hogan, Bill Barr, Kevin McCarthy?
Just because you don’t understand the back room poker doesn’t mean Trump’s making bad moves.
It might be a bit more complicated than you think.
He made some bad personnel choices... he was a novice politician and get some corrupt advice from some corrupt assclowns. I think he knows better now and will rely on guys like Bannon and Nunes, maybe even Gorka and DiGenova... to vett his choices...
You liked Barry Obongo and Joe Biden better, moron?
Trump unleashed the plandemic on us, and championed Operation Warp Speed, is still proud of it. He also appointed Bolton, a known psychopath, and gave the keys to Fauci.
Pfizer would not sign on with Operation Warp Speed because there were guidelines and regulations they wouldn’t accept.
So many holes in your TDS claims.
That was recently stated in congressional hearings.
Dump on Trump all you please. He is the people’s choice.
You are a yeasty moron.
Trump is not an epidemiologist... he relied on some very malignant people, Fauci, Birx, etc... he is still making a mistake in not coming out against the Covid death-jabs... he is not perfect, are YOU, ahole?
You prefer Biden/Obongo, idiot?
Need I remind you of Trump's self-proclaimed "greatest accomplishment"?
Need I remind you that you have an enormous log in your eye.
It’s caused by TDS and sadly, there is no known cure.
Watch out for your innards with all that stored hatred.
Things aren’t going your way.
You are a low imbecile Karen to blame Trump for Big Pharma's corruption.
Why don't you go spoon with Niqqer Jamaal Bowman, he needs your love now...
agree totally, same bird/different wings
Excellent point.. Both Parties sold us out..
And they continue to sell us out.
agree
And yet, the stupid people continue to vote GOP, "cuz it would be SO much worse!"
Thereby ensuring that it *will* get so much worse.
President Trump is taking over the traitorous GOP. That’s why Paul Ryan and co. are losing their collective minds.
Patriots built the GOP. The globalists seized and perverted it. The fight is to get it back.
Starting a whole new party is an arduous and expensive task that the country is not up to at this time in history.
Retaking the GOP is the better business plan.
AGREE
Sure, eunuch... the GOP and Trump are much worse than the Pretendency of Joke Biden, certified imbecile, criminal, liar and traitor?
And you, ahole, call others "stupid"?
President Trump is taking over the traitorous GOP. That’s why Paul Ryan and co. are losing their collective minds.
Patriots built the GOP. The globalists seized and perverted it. The fight is to get it back.
Starting a whole new party is an arduous and expensive task that the country is not up to at this time in history.
Retaking the GOP is a much better business plan.
Humans are the problem watch out for them🤪😂
Back then it was those ‘NeoCon Rhino Republicans’ who are still around, trying to keep running the Republican Party , that were and still are equally culpable!
Father we ask for your hand to touch each person involved in this lawsuit.
Give them wisdom, guidance and discernment for each word, each action and each decision they make. Give them courage to follow your perfect will.
We thank You Lord!
Amen
Yes!!! Amen and amen. That how I prayed this morning.
Amen!
Amen
Godspeed!
Jeff,
Is there a way the C&C Army can do a multiplier to support your Prep Act lawsuit?
Now that's a good idea!!
This was one of your best yet. Can't wait to share with some who will truly appreciate it.
Huh, same year that the student load debt trap was enacted I think.
GW Bush signed both.
bingo
‘W’ is the slimiest snake in the grass ever!
"New world order"-W. Before we knew how incidious it was. I remember hearing that speech and saying-what?
The first time I remember hearing about the NWO, it was from his papa, George H.W. Bush.
People need to know that the Bush Cabel was behind the DeSantis campaign, which had been planned for several years. He was groomed to fool people into restoring power to the GOPe.
I know JC thinks he’s the cat’s pajamas, but everything is not as it seems.
Those envelopes at the funeral.....
I <3 Seldon!
Thanks Jeff!!
To paraphrase Tucker Carleson in Australia this week,
…Anyone who would force you to take the COVID Vax, long after its been proven to be neither safe nor effective, I mean, what wouldn't they do to you? They've shown who they are.
Praying that your latest lawsuit is another victory. Substack and suits - that’s what coffee and covid does. This is my favorite line: “the Biden Administration is like an intellectual desert where they bury nuclear waste in discarded Round-Up barrels”. The regime is spreading hazardous radioactive waste around the world. Clean up starts in November.
This ⬆️!! Let’s ALL multiply our collective prayers for success!
Absolutely! Power of prayer 🙏
Matt 18:20 "For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them.”
Talk about a multiplier!!
Mrs. "the Knife"
🙏❤️
YES!!!!
Absolutely!! 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
❤️❤️❤️❤️
Absolutely agree. Way to go! Someone has to take the bull by the horns and get some of these no-good, terrible awful laws deleted. Prayers for success and peace for you personally.
On another note, your sense of humor slays me! You always make me laugh at least once.
Yes!
From your lips to God’s ears!!!!!!
"Coffee and CanDo." "Coffee and Confidence."
I shudder reading: November.
Have zero confidence in our elections
Absolutely - VOTE HARDER.
Yes, we should all join in this prayer for a successful outcome. 🙏
“Blessed is the man that trusteth in the LORD, and whose hope the LORD is.”
(Jeremiah 17:7)
Praying for your suit to be successful and immune to the vagaries of judges and the lies of the enemy.
Yesssss
Amen!!!!
⚠️JUST IN ⚠️
The Supreme Court on Wednesday rejected a Republican-led effort to sharply limit White House officials and other federal employees from pressuring social media companies to remove posts from their platforms that the U.S. government deems problematic.The Supreme Court on Wednesday rejected a Republican-led effort to sharply limit White House officials and other federal employees from pressuring social media companies to remove posts from their platforms that the U.S. government deems problematic.
It’s already illegal for government to interfere with free speech; SCOTUS need not render additional limitations provided in the Constitution.
Dismissed on standing. Nothing else.
Not on merits of the case-on standing.
Just like the 2020 election cases-states against other states. Literally why we have a SCOTUS, the founders wanted to have a court that could settle disputes between states w/out going to war.
We have chicken shit Justices on SCOTUS.
I haven't read any details yet but am wondering if the SCOTUS feels it is up to the media people to refuse to be intimidated. If they do an then are harmed, maybe that is what is needed. Proof of harm as opposed to the "subtle" ways they have done it in the past. That the Twitter Files exposed much of it "may" be enough to halt it... we can only hope.
I appreciate your attempt to spin it into a positive. My concern is that just like both parties in Congress, the FBI and CIA and the Pentagon the Supremes are also complicit in deceiving us. All about $$$$ and control.
I won't argue with you on that. I just keep hoping that we can turn this ship around and find some smoother waters to be able to breathe for a while. I am so tired of the chaos (IMO, not of the making of the right of center people).
Such a disappointment. ScotusBLOG's liveblog said the other Justices thought you can't combine the defendants into one group, nor the plaintiffs, if I recall correctly. Maybe they can refile individually, then, and see what happens. Gorsuch, Thomas, and Alito were the dissenters.
It’s not over! No fat lady has sung.
The only way I'd support student loan forgiveness is if all of us who actually worked our butts off and paid our student loans back get a 100% refund, including interest for the years it's been paid. It wasn't easy, but many of us had to work whatever crap job we could get after getting out of college to pay back our loans. We signed a contract. Contracts used to mean something.
Jeff Childers nailed it, allow them to be discharged in bankruptcy like any other consumer debt. Bankruptcy is a complicated process with real consequences so it's not a "get out of jail free" card for irresponsible borrowers. There is some pain involved. The other huge problem is the government guarantee that protects the lender in case the borrower defaults. It's a racket similar to the vaccine indemnity law that protected pharma. The risk isn't held by the industry (lenders in this case) so they behave recklessly and lend hundreds of thousands to people who have shown no ability to pay it back.
Usury is ugly and frankly immoral. Read what the Bible has to say about lenders and borrowers. Read how their were regular jubilees where it was required that debts be forgiven. Yet people will defend multi-billion dollar credit card companies and banks when they entice some foolish twenty-something into racking up tens of thousands in debt. They sneer at these kids forgetting that they were once young and dumb, or maybe these kids weren't blessed with wise parents like they had.
I listen to Dave Ramsey pretty regularly and we follow about 90% of his financial advice. The number of normal people calling in being crushed by student loan debt for worthless degrees is heartbreaking. These people took out these loans in their late teens/early twenties when they had no idea how the world worked. They were preyed upon by lending institutions that targeted them. Should the taxpayer bail them out? No, but why should a lender or the university be protected when they duped these kids into mortgaging their future at age nineteen?
My nineteen year old son is an engineering major at a respected state university, we are cash flowing his tuition (which is very reasonable actually). He lives at home. He gets at least four unsolicited letters a week from banks/credit card companies trying to put him in debt. Because my wife and I are wise, they go straight from the mailbox to the shredder. There is no way in hell we would let these dirtbag companies have even the slightest opportunity to make him just another debt slave. Fortunately also, he attended a biblical Christian high school that used Ramsey material as part of the economics curriculum. So he gets it. Most kids aren't so fortunate.
Older folks, particularly boomers, please think about this; what would you have done if a company offered you hundreds of thousands of loans at age nineteen? Would you have had the wisdom to turn them down? Before you say "of course" please really think about it. Most of us never had the opportunity to rack up this type of debt back then as it wasn't even available to us. Our kids and grandkids are not so fortunate, they are targeted for debt slavery from an early age.
No loan forgiveness, but let them be dischargeable and make the lenders take the hit. Even better, go after the Universities (particularly obscenely expensive private schools) that deceptively marketed worthless degrees to nineteen year old kids while pushing loans on them. What was done to an entire generation was despicable, as usury in clearly condemned in the Bible. And for goodness sakes, stop defending these lenders and understand what happened to many foolish but otherwise well-intentioned kids. These lenders are our common enemy.
I will go a step further: many should not even be in college, much less take out a life-crushing loan to do so.
I have to believe many with loans see themselves as victims, and revel in the attention of their "Oh, poor, pitiful me" laments.
I no doubt am an insensitive lout, but I do not think student loans should be for every subject studied.
I would be 100% A-OK with loans for STEM, accounting, and other worthy societal-important needs. In fact, for a STEM student who maintains at least a 3.0 on core subjects, stays out of (felony) trouble, stays gainfully employed, stays current in IRS obligations, and makes payments on time for 10 years, a full forgiveness of the balance. THEY benefit society, not the slackers with bullspit degrees we see protesting in the streets for the Next Thing.
My idea is to make schools, especially those with huge endowments, underwrite their own loans. This would serve several purposes: to offer degrees that can actually support repayment, to be discerning to whom they offer loans, and to get the government out of the university business. It would also shrink universities because they wouldn’t be offering these crap degrees like women’s studies.
Two of my kids went to Hillsdale. It does not accept any federal funding and therefore does not issue any federal student loans. They offer private loans which they self-fund. My kids had to pay back Hillsdale directly.
Very wise to go to Hillsdale!! they won’t be eating up a lot of propaganda
I think Grove City in PA also refuses federal funding.
Yes. Grove City began its fight when it refused to abide by Title 9.
Thanks.
Exactly. If these schools knew they'd likely get stiffed on repayment if the degree didn't have a good ROI, they'd be much more selective in who they loaned money. That feedback mechanism is completely missing now.
Most people need some sort of post-high school training to learn a marketable skill. But you are exactly right that it's often not a university degree, for many a trade school, apprenticeship, or the military makes far more sense. Plus if they are going to get a degree it needs to have actual value. Starting salary for a computer engineering major (my son's degree) is $100k/year and his degree will cost us $28k total ($7k/year at a good state university). That is a good value. But it's a hard degree and isn't just goofing off for four years.
I agree that there are plenty of people who feel entitled and that they now believe that they are owed forgiveness. I'm not talking about these people, but those who were foolish, had been lied to that they "were doing the right thing" and conned by a despicable, predatory industry (lenders/education). These people are in big trouble financially, and rather than viewing them all as spoiled brats (though some no doubt are), we should recognize they were manipulated.
When the public school system chose indoctrination over critical thinking, it all fell apart.
Maybe I'm just dark-hearted, but I have zero sympathy for anyone with a bullspit "degree" bought with massive student loans. These Mo Rons KNEW the chances of paying them back with a job in their field was pretty much zero based on those who went before.
Also place blame on the school recruiters and counselors for pushing that nonsense.
Curious how old you are. Although it was a long time ago, I remember how foolish I was at age nineteen. I also had parents that were clueless about money and were always broke. If someone had had offered me a way to get away from it all and attend a swanky university without paying for it now I probably would have jumped at the chance. Nineteen year olds do stupid things, particularly when their parents aren't wise.
Through God's grace, I was never offered that opportunity as most boomers of our age weren't. Most people over fifty really have no idea how the following generations were deliberately preyed upon. We act as if we were somehow wiser when in fact most of us avoided this scenario because it wasn't available to us.
I'm young enough to be impulsive, and old enough to appreciate it. ;-)
Look, few grow up in an environment 100% perfect. I didn't. Fact is that is the human condition for better or worse.
That does not mean idiots get off scott-free for their bad decisions. One Secret of Life is making more good decisions than bad. This is where critical thinking training comes in, and where modern "education" fails.
Life is full of carrots and sticks.
Fortunately, I grew up when education was about learning how to think than what to think.
Either choose which degrees are more important, or make everybody pay off their loans without exceptions. Pain is the best teacher.
I'm still OK that if a student defaults, the loan has to be repaid by the institution that got the $$$. No doubt statistics exist that shows who is most likely to default, and which degrees are most vulnerable to future defaults. That puts the schools in a position to vet future students and institutional offerings.
This goes back to a simple economic axiom: the more you subsidize something the more you get; the leas you subsidize or tax something, the less you get.
You could prolly gut 50% of higher edumacation centers and society wouldn't even notice.
Not scott-free, I'm not arguing for loan forgiveness where taxpayers pick up the tab. I'm saying that these loans should be dischargeable through bankruptcy like any other consumer debt. That should include the legal hassle and consequences of bankruptcy (e.g. having your credit seriously messed up for a period). These people did not repay an obligation and there should be a penalty for that (to teach them a lesson if nothing else).
They cannot do that now and people are racked with debt for decades based on foolish decisions they made when they were nineteen. Plus they were targeted by predatory lending institutions when they just became adults and had no clue what they were doing. This is what I'm talking about.
This isn't aimed at you as you never said this, but there are a few on here who lump all of these people into categories and "deadbeats" and "whiners". They have zero understanding of what people are going through, how they were manipulated, and how they were set up as debt slaves at age nineteen. No compassion, as if they never made a mistake. They preen sanctimoniously without ever considering that kids do stupid things, many kids have foolish parents who don't know any better, and that these kids were systematically targeted by the industry equivalent of loan sharks.
The Bible talks over and over about debt forgiveness and even had period jubilees where all debts were forgiven. It's called usury, and there's a recognition that a lender does not have the right to suck people into endless debt and hold it over their heads for decades. It's immoral and why we have bankruptcy provisions in the law in the first place.
No debt forgiveness, but allow bankruptcy that throws this back on the lenders. They lent nineteen year olds money for nearly worthless degrees without any regard to ability to repay. This is on them.
And there it is - a "three-peat."
Standing ovation slow clap from my house.
This is so true. I was such an idiot when I was a teenager. Even the things I did that seemed noble I mostly did out of self-absorption and righteousness. I once wrote an article about our school paper for a newspaper called (wait for it) The Class Struggle, and the boy who had asked me to do it, kept only my first paragraph and last. I got a call slip to the principal where this boy and my journalism teacher and the principal were yelling at each other. The principal asked if I wrote the Class Struggle article, and I told him no, and he forever thought me a fine upstanding student who didn't yield to peer pressure, but actually I thought the boy's article was poorly written and I fancied myself a fine writer, so I didn't want anyone to think I"d written that crap. Teenager. The boomers tend to forget that they were once that dumb and young.
I look back and just shake my head in disbelief at my behavior. My main priority at age nineteen was sex, drugs, and rock & roll (in that order) and I thank God that no one gave me the opportunity to borrow hundreds of thousands on top of it. Despite my behavior I was a pretty good student (good genes) so it would have been offered had these programs been available back then. Again thank God they weren't as the very idea is absurd, I had zero ability to repay them.
Fortunately I hit the wall at age 23 and was forced to grow up. Being plagued with decades of debt from those years on top of it would have been devastating.
I got a Paralegal degee and Criminal Justice degree at a state school (2014). After paying small payments monthly, I owed 9K. Covid hit and they suspended payments,, but not interest.
I now owe 29 THOUSAND dollars. No shit.
They'll take $85.00 a month for the rest of my life. Not kidding
No kidding...
Having worked in higher ed, most students have no idea about the marketability of their chosen degree, or that a graduate degree may be required to pursue their “passion”.
If colleges/universities did their real mission, teaching the true, the good, and the beautiful, the liberal arts ('artes liberales,' the knowledge needed to be and remain a free people [Latin 'liber' = 'free'], without which we would have no Western Civilization nor Declaration of Independence and Constitution, if they weren't treated like Vo-Tech for 'higher' education, so few would have the desire to go and study those subjects that they would all be downsized appropriately, and the other people could learn a lot through apprenticeships or vo-techs for computers sciences or something.
I agree. Long ago, 'higher education' was turn into a Grift Machine by admissions inflation. I wold have done better learning useful trades. My four years was an utter waste of time. And my real education? I got it on my own by reading. And also, from other people helping me by giving me tips on how to do something.
Limiting to certain degrees is akin to government picking winners and losers, and this has never worked out well in the long run. My kid's spouses, my nephew, and several friend's kids who did take out loans for useful degrees have made incomes that allowed them to pay their loans off pretty quickly. The whiners are generally those who either did a poor ROI calculation on the cost of the degree vs the pay they get for that degree or never finished. It's been a few years, but last I looked, 53% of those who start college don't finish.
Those "whiners" as you call them, made life altering decisions at age nineteen and likely didn't have wise parents to help them out like the people you mentioned probably did. How many nineteen year old are competent to perform ROI analysis? Were you at nineteen? Fortunately, no one in a million years would have loaned me that kind of money when I was nineteen. I was completely unqualified and unprepared to make those kind of decisions.
I have to be honest, this is why the younger generation cannot stand boomers as they seem incapable of understanding how things have changed in forty years.
Even at 19, you should be smart enough to ask yourself how you are going to pay off a loan BEFORE you sign on the dotted line. That is simple common sense, not a complicated ROI analysis.
But I think a lot are just going with the flow; having been told they MUST have a four year college degree to live a good life.
We raised our kids to work for what you want, did not helicopter parent, and still, at HS graduation they were not fully autonomous. But we did insist that they choose a course of study that had market value IF they wanted our help. My mom was one of 6 girls born in the 1920's and 30's and she was the only one of her sisters who did not get married right out of HS. (moved to the 'big city' with some room-mates and got a job, married by dad at age 23, and that was rare to wait that long at the time) I could not even fathom my kids getting married and being self-sufficient at 18. Delayed maturity is definitely a thing.
You would rightly assume that 18 and 19 yo students would carefully consider how they intend to repay their student loans. But I know they don't. Even though the college loan offices talk to students about it and students have to sign documents that indicate they understand, I learned in classes from listening to these kids that the loans are simply shrugged off. It's a time too far away from them to mean anything. They just don't get it. I have wondered if it's because their frontal lobes are not fully developed. Hillsdale and Grove City colleges got it right when they both decided to reject all federal regulation and loan money to students directly. I think doing so means that both schools are fully invested in good teaching and good results from it. I'd like to see their loan payback rates and I'd bet they are close to 100%.
We have a few ‘entitled’ generations, who just expect to be bailed out and cleaned up after. Consequences don’t occur to them.
Well, I am gen-x (but go ahead and toss out the OK boomer comment, lol) and I DID do an ROI calculation at 19. My parents didn't go to college, provided zero guidance, and I started out as a biology major. Discovered that a bachelors in biology had very little value in the job market so I switched to business as I wanted to make sure I could get a job without having to go beyond a bachelors.
What has changed:
-College was affordable in the 80's (loans were more rare and harder to get, it's loans that have fueled the increase) - between scholarships and working 2 jobs I was able to cash flow college but I ate a lot of ramen and lived in a dilapidated house with a bunch of roommates and drove a rust bucket car.
-Back then, get a degree, any degree and you will come out ahead was still a reasonable argument. That is no longer the case, as welders, mechanics, plumbers, etc are out-earning many college grads. Kids need to know that.
-Luxury expectations: today's dorms and campus amenities & services are way more luxurious than the standard cinder block closet that passed for student housing 40 years ago. This is baked into the cost.
I am not going to make excuses for this generation of delayed maturity, safe space seeking children who are currently being coddled by a society that seeks to insulate them from the real world and not hold them accountable. Yeah some lose the capable parent lottery but that has been the case since the beginning of time. One of my friends grew up in and out of the foster care system and today has a master's degree and a successful career. Making excuses for people's poor choices at any age does NOT benefit society.
Boomers love to complain about the Millenials, but who raised them?
Yup. A LOT is because of bad parents.
What parent in their right mind would allow the spawn of their loins to take out loans on degrees that are inherently bullshit?
In a way forcing idiots to pay off their loans is a better edumacation than the degree they sought.
Plus, Darwinism. Win.
Good point. I did a fine job with mine, but I’m exceptional in that regard.
Jeff C., you keep making the argument for putting the age of majority back to 21, where it was for so long.
I disagree fully.
Fact is some education benefits society better than others, some not at all, and some actually harm society.
That is critical thinking and common sense, not DEI-think.
Either pick and choose which offer a societal good, or get out of the loan business totally, and allow banks to do normal vetting.
BUT: who decides what 'benefits society'?? Just like a start up business who comes up with a product that customers vote for with their wallets becomes successful, whereas those who think they have the next best thing that it turns out few will pay for will fail, the job market will reward those who bring a valued skill into the marketplace. And it's not just the degree, it's the person - their work ethic, their attitude, and their aptitude. I know people with useless degrees who have been successful despite never using their degree. Heck, an IT degree is obsolete almost as soon as the ink dries on the certificate. Education doesn't end with formal schooling.
But yeah, totally OK with scrapping the loan idea altogether. Give tax credits for scholarship donations if you want to argue that disadvantaged students need help. I'd trust a scholarship vetting process over any Fed program.
If nobody else steps up to separate the wheat from the chaff, I will happily do the job.
Of course the individual matters. But it seems "certain" individuals with "certain" degrees are more prone to complaining and default than others.
Oh for sure. My friend's daughter went $50K into debt for a useless art degree and she will probably die of old age before she ever pays off her loans. She and her hubby have money for ATV's, tattoos and fancy vacations but then whine excessively about the hardship of paying off those loans. Oh and she is not even working right now as she is a stay at home mom with 3 kids. They are living in a house his parents own and are renting to them at $500 a month. Of course she is a leftist.
I bet she took the covid DeathVax too.
Yep. And she started out banning my unjabbed friend from seeing her grandkids at first, but then recanted as she needed a babysitter. My friend puts up with a lot of crap from her, she is a saint. My daughter is a lib too, but she has managed to retain some level of sanity, thank goodness.
Banning grandma from seeing the kids because she is unjabbed?
There is a special place in hell for someone to do that...
I think Your friend is not a saint. She sounds more like a cowardly door mat, who doesn’t want to lose her daughter’s supposed affection.
I’ve made waves a time or two with my four off-spring and the host of grands they’ve given me.
“Mama/grandma don’t put up with crap!”
They may have had hurt feelings for a little bit, but they always come around.
Maybe the loan maximum could correspond to the average salary of people with a particular degree? Just an idea I am throwing out there that came to mind 🤪
You can switch majors, though, and often don't choose a major until junior year.
I've thought that a better model for the 4 year undergraduate degree would be that majors could not be declared at all. Instead, students would study in every discipline from math to literature to chemistry over their 4 years and if something emerged as a special interest, a student could go on to earn a masters degree in that discipline. Specialization is what an MA or MS is all about.
I know that of course. But the fact remains that there can be a lot of relatively useless “fluff” among the more useful courses. Maybe there should be different tracks for people who aren’t sure what they want to do or have a desire for a broader liberal arts education.
But that would require common sense, something the Feds have very little of.
I could almost agree with you, but it's STEM folks who cry to "Follow The Science!" (TM). Fauci is a STEM person. Science doesn't tell you what is true, what is good, or what is beautiful. The Nazis had science, and look what they did with it. Guess what you study to understand the true, the good, and the beautiful? Liberal arts! (which include math/science). "Liber" is Latin for 'free,' which makes sense when you think of words like liberty. Same word root. In the *really* olden days, the 'artes liberales' were the subjects considered necessary to know and understand in order to be and remain a free people. So philosophy, history, and religion, correctly taught and understood, are really the linchpins for a good society.
Not all STEM folks are Fauci's.
In fact, I'd ague the minority.
Fauci is a bureaucrat drunk on power and money.
Most STEM people have a ton of critical thinking and know bullshit when they see it, even though expressing as much might get them cancelled.
In the old days, I agree. Nowadays, I’ll believe they have critical thinking skills when I hear the ideas come out of their mouths. There are people who gave up everything to tell the truth. People just have to choose. “Our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor” were real sentiments, not just words.
Agree...good points.
Not everybody needs and should go to college and they hard push it in the high schools for everyone to go. I fought back and told the HS that all these kids can't really go and to leae my daughter alone. She can to go college whenever she wants.
Honestly, I went to college, my husband didn't, yet he makes 3-4x what I ever made. Well, TBH, I became a teacher for my family planning and it worked out, but these days I would NEVER go into that field.
Trade school, business running, etc is very lucrative when you need your plumbing or a/c or foreign car fixed.
Trade schools need to be brought back into vogue. It’s difficult to find plumbers, electricians, mechanics, carpenters, etc. not just for businesses but for the average Joe or Jane. If everyone goes to college who are you going to call when your toilet backs up? When your transmission goes out? Time to push to bring back trade schools in your community.
There aren't many good trade schools anymore, but businesses often train you for FREE. Several of my son's friends are doing very well now.
One works at FPL, another repairs commercial a/c's, and another went into the tree trimming business. None went to college or even trade school but they got their butts out there and worked without handouts or expecting something for nothing.
Agree.
That tide is changing in our district - one of the few things they are getting right. There is a trend nation-wide, towards 'diploma plus' - The premise is that HS students graduate with a traditional HS diploma PLUS what our district calls a 'market value asset'- an industry-recognized certification. In some cases, the students actually work part time in their field of study and get credit for the work they are doing. Local businesses partner with the district and in some cases hire them full time when they graduate. At this point diploma plus is not required but strongly pushed.
My daughter went to private school and then 11th and 12th went to public but into the dual enrollment at the vocational school for cosmetology. She likes it a lot for now and can always do something else later. It is good to have facials... LOL
I have a friend whose daughter just did the same. Lots of options besides pushing all kids towards college.
Our local schools must have this. When our homeschooled son was of the appropriate age, I called the school to find out about the shop classes. They don't teach shop. They don't teach home ec., either. They push those computer-skills 'certifications.' We do have a stellar vo-tech, but you have to 'track' in it, not take a "what any adult should know about wood/metal shop, simple home repairs, and car mechanics" class. And our local food bank director told our homeschool club not to give them flour - "They don't know what to do with it." So instead they buy $4 loaves of bread, I assume.
Well yes, they use employers as the classroom. Practical arts is pretty limited. We have several manufacturers in town who do employ students part time in entry level roles, as well as various small businesses and a few larger ones, and there are a couple of different vo-tech options that are available to students in our district even though they are located in adjacent districts, and then our district has a 'tech academy' where they can do pre-engineering, graphic arts, various HC & IT certs and they just rolled out an aviation track at the local airport (not the main KC airport, it's prop planes and small jets only)
That is encouraging.
Yeah, if only we could get the district to drop all the DEI crap, finally address the deficiencies in the reading curriculum, and start enforcing the student handbook regarding discipline, it would actually be a very good district. There are some very good people thrown into a bad system.
If you want a guaranteed vocation try garbage (cleaned up title: waste removal) or dead bodies (funeral, cremation, etc) There will always be garbage and dead bodies
If you have college age kids and they are considering student loans, or you are considering Parent Plus loans, *please, please, please* watch this video from Ramsey. It's a documentary on how student loans destroys people's lives. Don't let your kids (or yourselves) fall into debt slavery.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7krdoXswQA
I sat in meetings on our campus when the Director of Admissions referred to students as "customers." The policy regarding admissions was pretty simple: take anyone who walked in the door, pulse optional. All students had to sign documents stating that loan paybacks were not an option. Bottom line: the colleges all got their tuition money. It's all a grift on the part of lenders and colleges.
Ironically, it was Joe Biden, then senator of Delaware, who helped make bankruptcy laws tougher, since he was from a state whose economic was/is primarily bank and credit card company driven.
I could not "like" this post enough. Every doggone word - especially the part about the sin of usury.
I graduated from William and Mary in 1997. My all-in cost for those 4 years was about 40K. One year now for an in-state student is around 45K. One year! It’s the most expensive public college in VA these days.
"These lenders are our common enemy" -what he said!!!
Later Jay
Agreed 100%. In my early 20’s it was hard for me to pay back my loans. I stumbled a few times. I had to borrow money from my Dad at one point. I missed payments, accrued penalties and ultimately negotiated a settlement with the loan company to pay it off at once, which I had to borrow money from a bank to do. But I did it! I paid it off with MY OWN sweat and tears. Then I paid to put my wife and kids through school. I’d want All that money back if everybody else is getting freebies!!
Similar story here… paid mine off even after a bankruptcy in my twenties because it wasn’t allowed to be discharged with the rest of the debt… so I finally paid it off in my late thirties… and this is the reward?
You think that’s an insult, wait until this motherfucker grants amnesty to 35 million illegals.
It’s even more insulting to the millions of LEGAL immigrants to America. 🇺🇸
Absolutely
Yes.
No kidding.
It’s an insult, yep
Me too!
However, I'd want my money back just for the fact that the education was a bunch of knowledge about nothing.
Sue them instead!
Exactly. Econ and gov’t degrees here and I am a carpenter. Lol. But I paid ‘em off anyway!
Success is not earning a bunch of money but how you live your life.
But it’s a lot better to cry in a Mercedes than a Corolla!
The smell of a leather interior is soothing.
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Absolutely. Rewards those warm-hearted corporations!
Bingo🎯
hahahahahahahaha! TRUE! I just told my SIL yesterday do not send your kid to community college because they will
waste more time there. She mentiomed trade school and I highly supported. I told her so much of what they want you to learn is a load of crap. Its a waste of time and money and if you can read write and mutiply then just learn your skill. Done!
I taught elementary on and off for 30 years while raising my children.
Public ed is BS and knowing what I know now, a bunch of lies.
If you want to learn about something then just do it.
Since I didn't depend on the money, I left over the masks.
I still have some good teaching years left in me, but not in public. Maybe I will do small homeschool groups in the future.
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I want to buy a Mercedes but I don't think I should have to pay for it. /s
Biden is just pandering to the deadbeats.
Pittsburgh mayor - super Dem and BLM supporter - had his student loan "forgiven."
No doubt done on purpose by the Biden regime.
In my industry there are crazy entitled people suing coffee companies because they have to pay more for alternative milk in their coffee. ‘It’s discrimination against people who can’t drink cows milk’ (waa waa waa 😩)
Simply put, alt milk costs about double, idiots! It’s simple economics and business 101.
But Equity! Lol. People want something for nothing just because they think they’re entitled to have it.
"There is in fact a manly and legitimate passion for equality that spurs all men to wish to be strong and esteemed. This passion tends to elevate the lesser to the rank of the greater. But one also finds in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to want to bring the strong down to their level, and which reduces men to preferring equality in servitude to inequality in freedom."
Alexis de Tocqueville
And this from Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn:
Human beings are born with different capacities. If they are free, they are not equal. And if they are equal, they are not free. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
And that's also our education model! For equality, one must level the field by bringing others down to raise others up. Dumbing down, lowering standards, diversity hiring... leads to the OPPOSITE of excellence.
BTW, most of us would like to support your PREP Act suit.
Would you humbly appoint someone to handle a multiplier for your firm?
I went to the donate link and donated an amount ending in 2. Everyone can do that.
https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/s/get-involved
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Done!!!
Yes duh. Silly me.
Hmmm...this would explain Kagan and Sotomayor.
Pretty sure they're hovering around a college dropout level of intelligence.
Sorry, not good enough for a job of that capacity.
And Her Honor KBJ who is not a biologist and cannot identify her own sex.
Oh shoot...HOW IN THE WORLD DID I MISS HER.
she's definitely operating at a 10th grade level
Doesn't that Alexis de Tocqueville quote describe perfectly why we are where we are, sadly, and why Congress is where it is, while we cry in frustration about the ineptitude and lack of courage not only in Congress but in the general population. Sigh.....
Such a brilliant man, so many astute observations in his writings!!
This is so spot on!
it's called communism
Why are these people suing coffee companies for the milk THEY CHOOSE to put in their coffee. I don't understand. Are these coffee companies forcing people to use certain milk products?
On a related note, what about the lawyers who come up with these crazy lawsuits. Don't they have any shame?
Sorry for long link I don’t know how to shorten. I think the argument is they aren’t really choosing because of their lactose intolerant condition or whatevs. 🙄
Oh my goodness, so it's like a disability? My husband is a celiac (has been for 30 years and has been doing it long before gluten-free became a "lifestyle"). Obviously he has to order gluten free options at restaurants (e.g GF pasta or bread) which always come with an added surcharge. According to the logic of the coffee-drinkers, he could sue?? Insane.
Yep. Where does it end?
No personal responsibility anymore. Sadly there are lots of these kinds of people who would rather make society responsible for their conditions.
After you copy and paste the link just move your cursor to the end and delete up to the question mark.
Boy, I’m gonna get rich, I’m going to sue coffee makers, ice cream shops, oh, and bread makers, cookie bakers, and pizza companies, cuz it’s their fault I can’t eat regular wheat or dairy, and the subs cost more. The list is incomplete, can’t wait to get started. It does piss me off that I have to pay extra for a gluten-free bun yet I don’t get a discount when I say ‘no cheese’ but life is tough buttercup, suck it up.
Or “Get a helmet.” To quote Candace Owens 😍
I like that one.
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lol
Hey!! Thanks for that tip Karen!
Omg, I thought you were being nasty and calling her a 'karen'.
Forgive me Karen. Your name is beautiful and it must be so hard these days. I hate that racially charged epithet. 😒
Yesterday I was on my last nerve. Tucker’s latest broadcast about racism, DEI, etc, he listed Karens too.
Not Elite Liberal White Women, but Karens. Look at the Utube description.
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You didn’t have to apologize ❤️
Well I would much rather be a “Karen” than a “Dick.” 🤣😂🤣 Actually, I just wish all the name calling and generalizations would stop. There are better ways to insult people.
Btw: I haven’t looked up the YouTube description so not trying to offend.
They can learn to drink it black
Right? But in learning to adapt to your own unique circumstances you lose the grand opportunity to play the victim and count yourself among the oppressed.
Or make it at home? 🤦🏼♀️
So can everyone else!
"Don't [those lawyers] have any shame?"
No, they don't. Many lawyers don't. I thank God for the honest ones.
https://dailycoffeenews.com/2024/06/21/ohio-woman-sues-biggby-coffee-over-non-dairy-milk-pricing/?utm_source=Roast+Magazine+%26+Daily+Coffee+News&utm_campaign=07c3c7a5d6-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_6_14_2018_8_20_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_8f24fab631-07c3c7a5d6-15970441
How about if the coffee shops don't offer any alternative creamers at all??
No one likes the HF Corn Syrup of Creamora? That crap is powerful chemical powder
Black coffee is an option.
THAT'S RACIST!
I thought the milk was racist.
It's so hard for me to keep up.
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Ha
Snowflakes don’t understand reality because it is too offensive to their fragile egos. Their lust for equity literally severs their understanding of simple economics and business principles.
Why pay more for almond products when cow products are so cheap? Lolol
Why not sue Rolls Royce because their cars aren’t affordable enough for all the illegal immigrants?
Who decides what is equitable these days???
Who decides the most equitable outcomes?
Trump should sue Bragg for not prosecuting equitably.
Equity doesn’t coexist with fairness or justice.
America stands on liberty and JUSTICE for all, not equity.
Snowflakes have been brainwashed. Also, without Christianity a person isn’t taught to be joyful in the good things AND the bad. Happiness and joy are dependent on what’s outside of them rather than knowing true happiness comes from the same place that also provides eternal blessings. Atheism breeds laziness, envy, greed and contempt.
I have to just shake my head and roll my eyes. I've never had a poker face.
Yes.
The 'participation trophy' generation writ large.
He is pandering to all the "deadbeat" socialists. I would like my mortgage paid off too so how about the government start paying off everyone's homes? Oh right, they would never do that because owning a home is the key to being comfortably wealthy.
"You will own nothing and be happy" is the goal.
Kathleen: How many votes did Ed Gainey buy (at discount) via Bethel AME Church? I understand they have a productive ballot-generating concern there, already building on their 2020 successes in prep for November 2024.
That was one of the churches I emailed when the story broke about the University of Pittsburgh sewing dead/live baby parts on the backs of mice. A special request had gone out for "minority" baby parts.
Bethel AME church never responded to my email...I still have the email I sent.
I remember that scandal and Pitt's response: all regulations were followed, which I took to mean, that Pitt was actually sewing baby parts on the backs of mice. I was on the Pitt faculty at that time at one of their regional campuses. Our local PA representative (Warren County) to the General Assembly tried to bring this to the attention of the state government, but nothing came of it. Do you have any further news of this practice? I live too far from Pittsburgh to have heard of anything; Pitt, of course, has remained silent. Another question I have is whether Children's Hospital is doing trans-gender surgeries, but I haven't been able to confirm it.
Here is the article from "The Federalist."
https://thefederalist.com/2021/05/07/university-of-pittsburgh-uses-taxpayer-funded-aborted-babies-for-medical-research/
Pretty much crickets on sewing the dead/live baby parts onto the backs of mice at the University of Pittsburgh. Local news never touched the story.
I was alerted to the fact by a story posted on "The Federalist."
I suspect "yes" on Children's Hospital doing surgeries.
UPMC Children's Hospital of Pittsburgh offers LGBTQIA+ care to youth under 18 and up to 26 years old.
Our care doesn't stop at the age of 18 or 26. At the right time, the care team will help you move to adult care."
https://www.upmc.com/services/lgbtqia#:~:text=We%20offer%20transgender%20surgery%20and,female%20(trans%20feminine)%20people.
Reading that, I'd say you're right. Three years ago, I called CH/Pgh and pretended to be the mom of a 13 yo boy who wanted to transition to being female. I was unable to get any information at all over the phone; they wanted "us' to make an appointment. I would love to get Chris Rufo to focus his spotlight on Children's in Pgh.
Agree.
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when abortion facilities give you lemons....
Who knew that selling alive and dead baby parts could be so lucrative?
Look at the voter pandering in Detroit . Unbelievable. https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2024/06/26/biden-department-of-transportation-awards-66-9-million-for-michigan-infrastructure-projects-2024/74209698007/
The garbage that passes for 'infrastructure' is truly head shaking. We have roads, bridges, dams (see Rapidam dam in MN), and the grid all in dire straits, but hey, lets drop money on shared use paths.
Our previous mayor in Pittsburgh cared more about creating bike lanes than repairing bridges that happen to collapse.
Same here in Mpls. We have one street here where two lane traffic is down to one lane. However, there are two very wide bike lanes. You play Russian roulette driving down that street.
Pittsburgh is an old city with narrow streets...just not wide enough for both to coexist.
Cause they want to force people to bike and walk instead of take their cars maybe? 😕
Yes.
Can they "build" shared use paths faster than EV charging stations?
Who actually pays for the electricity for these stations anyway?
They might have to spend a lot of money on consultants, studies, and other grifters before they actually "build" anything, hence the delays and $$$ price tag.
And the shared use paths are a joke in winter. My hubby is a runner, and in the winter, snow plows toss the snow from the roads onto the shared use paths, rendering them a minefield of ice boulders and slick spots so he can't even use them. And we get less snow than Detroit where they will be even MORE useless.
Was the water in Flint, MI ever fixed?
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The whole thing is utterly delusional like most of the green grift, and the mayor is touting 20 minute neighborhoods, with no sidewalks here and 7 months of winter, and no plowing of side roads until snow gets to 3 feet. No one rides bikes, but Klausy wants the Motor City transmogrified into a hub for Agenda 2030 or something as a sort of showcase. They got funds to transform the park near me, a haven for sex addicts and drug running, into bike lanes, and created a hill, which we call Mt. Gentrification, that has no purpose at all. It is a veneer, an appearance, not rooted in reality at all, and now there's an artist in residence who specializes in "spatial equity" She put up an arch made of recycled stuff, actually sort of a good public education on microplastics, but "spatial equity" isn't that colonialism? They could alleviate poverty, the damage being inflicted by money printing, work on gun violence, or freaking education, which is pride and social emotional learning, but no, bike lanes. This works at Google HQ in Mountain View CA because it maybe rains for a minute in February, but riding bikes in 20 below? They are lobotomized.
Same here - they are putting in 'road diets' to add in bike lanes. Other than recreational cyclists on Saturday mornings I NEVER see a bike in those lanes. It was close to100 degrees here the past several days. It rains a lot in the Spring and Fall. It snows in the winter. I know ONE person, a friend's son, who occasionally bikes to work 2 miles or so away on nice days, to save money but those days are not the norm.
Road Diets? Isn't the very word "diet" fat-shaming? I can't keep up with the BS anymore.
This is all coming down from 'Central Planning.' Here is APWA (American Public Work Assn), which lots of public works directors belong to, go to their meetings, conferences, and webinars and then push the crap on a public that doesn't go to the public works or city council meetings and then wake up one day to find fewer lanes on the roads. https://www.apwa.org/resource/what-you-need-to-know-about-road-diets/ There is also an association for city planners, and the urban land institute, and others who are all singing from the same song book.
Thanks, didn't know that about the PW employees. Typical, though. Central Planning....do these Plans come in 5 year increments, like Uncle Joe's back in the 1930's and 40's?
Oh I just called it that to draw the parallels to the old Soviet Union. Our city updates its comprehensive plan at great expense every 10 years or so. But the ink is barely dry on it before some developer who has much of the council in their pockets shows up looking for a zoning change. Then, yeah, each major department has 5 year plans. They do ask for public input. but it's hard to motivate people to bother to even go online and make a comment. Sigh.
I'm guilty of that too. I moved to a new home last year that has an HOA. The previous owners left some documentation on the HOA, but I haven't bothered to read it. I am starting to wonder what my annual $175 is really paying for, so I'd better dig that stuff out.
You're right about the public being apathetic. People are too "busy" with more personal matters to think about community-wide issues. Which is what government is counting on.
We need a "Road Positivity" movement, STAT!
Not a top priority "infrastructure" improvement. I'm certain people within the cities can see what is falling apart around them and they're not impressed either.
A Mercedes is the same as investing in our most important legacy & our future?? Most other 1st world countries pay for educating their youth. The student loan scam in this country benefits the banks & the higher education institutions. The students are victims of this crime. Who can afford to go to college these days? Student loans are often the only way kids can get an education & they are persuaded by the colleges to take the loans. Upon graduation they are strapped with these loans often for a lifetime. We can send billions to other countries but don’t invest in our children. Jeff, is correct with the bankruptcy laws. However, we wouldn’t need them if we valued our children & the future of this country more than a Mercedes.
Can't resist this anecdote.
Was once in a bankruptcy hearing where the judge tore a new one for a lawyer proposing a Ch. 13 Plan for his clients who'd bought two new Mercedes just before filing.
When the lawyer explained that his clients' Mercedes were 'not the expensive ones" I physically flinched in anticipation of the tirade from the bench.
That would have made for an entertaining YT video.
What will flip this on its head is if far more kids start going through trade schools or just starting businesses without going to school! I have 2 degrees and Lord knows I support trades far more. The exception are the fields that require extensive education such as medicine and law to practice.
You mean the medical field requires an education???? 😝
Not from what we’ve seen during the last few years.
Lisa Ca, even those used to be based more on the apprenticeship method. Given what's happened to both medical and legal education, both should be largely s__t-canned. (I speak as a retired physician.)
As a retired attorney, I completely agree.
Other countries also tend to restrict far more than we do who can get into universities. And they don’t have sprawling campuses with fancy housing options, all kinds of recreational opportunities and especially sports. Not to mention DEI staff, student loan staff and all the rest of the university bureaucracy. So a lot of things would have to change in our system to make it equivalent to other places in the world and lower costs.
Lot of those university college coaches earn millions of $$$ per year.
https://www.collegetransitions.com/blog/highest-paid-college-football-coaches/
Yep KJ and then a pervs try to rape the female athletes or cheerleaders….andnothing happens .
Sorry for topic change …
Topic change is good...and unfortunately true.
Coverups galore with the sports "stars" at colleges and universities.
Gotta keep those football $$$$ rolling in.
Exactly, RL. Back in the late '70s, I was stunned to find out from my New Zealander friends that only the top 2% of their high school graduates could go to university. (And why? Because it was 'free,' i.e., taxpayer-funded.) They were stunned to find out that Americans can go to college any time they feel like it, throughout life. No wonder we have such socio-economic mobility.
Agree.
My sarcasm on wanting to own a Mercedes was lost on you.
Actually, Kathleen, I did get the sarcasm. My post included it too. I probably am good at sarcasm but try to use it sparingly when someone enlightened me that the definition of sarcasm is to ‘tear flesh.’ I had a friend (doctor) with 2 small children that committed suicide over her school loan debt so I was reactive. I do believe we are on the same page about this & I apologize if I detracted you from the issue at hand. ✌️
OK.
I did post the comment a couple of times about how much football coaches get paid - millions of dollars. Oftentimes, more than the university president.
Just a question maybe you or someone else could answer.
Do universities in the UK, France, Germany, etc., have sports teams?
If not, then they are truly focusing on just education.
I've found that sarcasm is tricky in text. needs an emoji of some sort.
Well, I did put /s after my comment.
Maybe I should type out the word (sarcasm) after it instead?
as a huge fan of sarcasm, sadly I'd say its counterproductive in these often heated, type before you think comment streams. depending of course on what one wants to produce in the first place.
Wow, Merry, I think you're going to get ratio'd, lol.
How about this question: Do you hold the *colleges* to be responsible, at all, for their hugely inflated prices, *way* more than the inflation rate would have them, by miles? And what have they done with this money? They've hired *tons* of administrators at 6-figure salaries, to bureaucrat people to death. And what about the colleges with billion-dollar endowments? Might they be asked to toss in a bit of money, instead of the plumber, electrician, farmer, shopkeeper, waitress? If something is a true 'investment,' no one needs government to do it, because it will pay itself off, just like your own real investments. I value our children and the future of our country so much that I want my fellow citizens to know basic constitutional civics and economics.
People shouldn't complain about the cost of college until this nonsense stops.
College football coaches that earn millions of dollars.
https://www.collegetransitions.com/blog/highest-paid-college-football-coaches/
In defense of the coaches, it's the athletic programs that bring in millions, in many cases, so the tail now wags the dog.
If the athletic programs are bringing in millions, then the universities have the $$$ to lower tuition for everyone.
Most of those football coaches earn so much more than the actual president of the university. So, they are hypocrites when they say they focus on education.
Years ago, I remember hearing how much the Pitt football coach earned. Now Pitt is a good school. That is where I earned by BA with the GI Bill, but the average student now struggles to pay tuition.
Unsurprisingly, the athletic programs think the money they brought in should largely remain in the athletic programs.
Some of us paid cash as we went and that wasn't easy either. Where's our reimbursement?
Why are we talking about reimbursing anyone for their own financial decisions anyway? This is so stupid.
What about those that worked our asses off so we didn’t have to take out loans in the first place?
I would be ok with forgiving the interest and/or reimbursing the interest of those who paid theirs off but I do NOT support what this Biden forgiveness implies - 'free' college. The only reason college costs have grown like a weed for the past 3 decades while the colleges themselves are majoring in grift and bloat is because of this overly generous loan program. People who borrow money need to pay it back, but if the premise of college is that it is a 'public good' why is it OK for the government to make money on it? Especially by charging rates higher than one could get a mortgage for for at least some of those years. It's, in effect, a back door tax. If we really want to get college costs out of the stratosphere, kill the loan program altogether.
BTW, my son had a loan for his last semester (that he promptly paid off) and my daughter had zero loans. We saved what we could in 529 plans, and the kids contributed to the plans from PT jobs in HS, they took gen eds at CC, they worked in college, a lot, and got scholarships. So, they too would be paying taxes that would go to those who did not plan, work, and save. Both of their spouses did have loans that they paid off, so they too are penalized with Biden's plan.
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Loans are the invisible chains that holds the world captive. They’ve been used since the dawn of time in ancient Babylon: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/spiritual-sundays-freedom-vs-slavery
Like Dave Ramsey says, borrower is slave to the lender.
usery... They were able to control kings and countries.
I have't but will watch the podcast. Looks spot on.
As a parent who put two children through college, as I believed was my obligation, (not without sacrifice), I abhor the so-called loan forgiveness by the Panderer in Chief. It enhances an already bloated sense of entitlement.
I agree Mary-Ann. We did the same for our 2 children. It took some huge financial sacrifices, but our frugality made it possible to offer them a debt free start. Meanwhile, our neighbor’s kids were taking out loans and flying off to Mexico for spring break. When the loans were due, they began the whining that they were victims of the times. Free will and free choice have consequences. There is no escaping that achievement involves sacrifice. It must be one’s own sacrifice and not that of others (fellow taxpayers).
Make college affordable again!
Easily done: get rid of all DEI administrators and at least half of those who remain after that.
My daughter spent a couple of years at a regional state university 10 years ago. Dorms, meals, amenities, facilities and on campus services were an order of magnitude higher/fancier than they were when I was in undergrad in the 80's. It's a place to get an education, not a resort. All these things contribute to the cost. My son went to a different regional university in another state and it WAS pretty bare-bones, and a lot more affordable. He didn't care - all he did was work, go to class, and hang out with his friends.
I grew up in NYC. In the 70s, the entire City University New York system with all its excellent and various specialized and liberal arts colleges were FREE to its residents. I got a wonderful education at no cost.
I made a comment above about the outrageous administration salaries. And the number of administrators per student. I think professors salaries are pretty high too.
I would even be more ok with professors’ salaries but the admin costs are ridiculous and unnecessary. Although, with the number of professors who are leftists and socialists, maybe their salaries should be limited so education can be “free” or at least cheap. Put your money where your mouth is leftist professors!
And the professors often get by without teaching a lot, as the colleges have come to rely on their adjunct faculty 'helots,' who do a ton of teaching for close to minimum wage, with no benefits.
Here in Pittsburgh, some adjunct faculty are being represented by the United Steelworkers union.
The adjunct are truly taken advantage of by the administration.
Coaches that earn millions in salary.
https://www.collegetransitions.com/blog/highest-paid-college-football-coaches/
Yes. I also want a refund for the portion of my Property taxes that went towards my local school district. My child never attended the government, oh sorry, public schools. Why should I have to pay for the education/indoctrination of someone else’s children?
Just wait and see what will happen with the collapse of commercial real estate.
Here in Pittsburgh, the assessments on commercial real estate went down because of vacancies. So the Pittsburgh school district had to give out refunds to the owners of the commercial buildings.
Now they want to come after the homeowners. The school board is calling for reassessments of the home values to drum up more tax money for the money they lost.
I have a radical thought: cut your government budgets and live with it like the rest of us!
There you go, making sense again.
Right?? Same here. I am thinking more and more that public schools should be opt in rather than default. If your children do not attend public school or you don’t have children, you don’t pay into the system.
I used to think that an educated populace benefited all of us, so supporting the schools was a win/win. No more.
School districts are also not fiscally responsible and they aren’t even able to forecast five years into the future. I lived in one Northern suburb of Chicago. Two perfectly good schools were sold. Maybe three years later there was a boom. They brought asbestos filled trailers onto school grounds and many kids spent their day in one of the trailers while they voted and passed a bond to raise money for the their lack of management. Six years later I moved to another suburb. The High School was bursting at the seams. Kids were housed in the basement. There was an existing unused high school that could have been used, but it would have meant competition in the community. They couldn’t have two football teams. What?! Wouldn’t another school give that many more kids an opportunity for participation in team sports, band, cheerleaders, shake your pom poms, theater, student government, debate, etc. They voted and passed funding once again. Whatever you do though, don’t criticize teachers or nurses. For some reason they are to be revered over all other professions.
I have many teachers in my family (all dedicated and knowledgeable) and have taught as well. I think this putting teachers up on a pedestal is way over the top. It’s almost a cult like adulation in some circles 😕 Yes, some teachers are indeed amazing and make a big difference in their students lives. But some are mediocre or average. Some are lazy, nasty or abusive. The blanket statements about teachers all being heroes makes me roll my eyes every time 🙄
Same here. But when they’re not really educated and mostly just indoctrinated, the value is gone.
I’m torn on this. I never took out a loan. Never paid for college. I did some school with VA benefits but I have mixed feelings on that.
It’s because my parents taught us a healthy skepticism of the “education” system in general. When we finally went from homeschool to school in the 90’s, my dad would say in the mornings “time to go to indoctrination.”
Yet many kids were raised by parents who believed. And spent their entire childhood and early adult years told over and over and over by parents and schools “go to college to get a good job.” “Follow your dreams, make your reality.” It’s just what’s done. No questions.
It’s a cult. Do we blame kids raised in cults for being a cult member?
So for the people who were never once told otherwise… what do we do with them?
Yes good point. Schools, teachers, administrators, the culture at large all push the idea of college equaling success. And I am often disgusted at how many people with college degrees use that fact to sneer at those who don’t have one as being “uneducated”. That was part of the Covid cult attitude, people who didn’t have a degree or even those who did but in the “wrong” field, could not question those who did. It really burns me up 😡
GI Bill paid for my education.
No one talks about college administrators outrageous salaries and the number of administrators per student. Professor salaries are high too. We need to get those numbers down before we can fix or help the loan problem.
Here is a list of coaches who earn millions of $$$.
https://www.collegetransitions.com/blog/highest-paid-college-football-coaches/
When Ilived in NV, the local school system had more administrators than teachers.????????????
And all of the perks and niceties. Some places are more like a resort 😕
Exactly!!
And I would rather see hard-working families helped out with egregious, unpaid medical bills, caused by someone supporting a family getting cancer, a car accident, etc.
Agreed, but who will ever address the absolutely sickening skyrocketing costs of college tuition? State Uni's/ community Colleges are part funded by government... our tax dollars are ALREADY subsidizing college "educations."
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I still wouldn’t be for student loan forgiveness!! No one should be expected to take on the burden of someone else’s debts, regardless if it was for education or anything else! I paid for my own college and worked while going to school! These people who are begging for loan forgiveness are probably deadbeats who partied throughout college and have a useless unmarketable degree! Grow up and take responsibility for yourself and your decisions!
I suggest a C&C multiplier to support your PREP Act lawsuit. Can we do this?!!
What does the lawsuit allege? The PREP act was not poorly conceived- it was a deliberate preparation for mass murder and the “vaccines” were never injections subject to approval in the first place. For that reason, most lawsuits have been dismissed by the courts.
I strongly encourage everyone to read Sasha Latypova’s articles on this issue. Here’s yesterdays for starters:
https://open.substack.com/pub/sashalatypova/p/breaking-news-pfizer-lied-bad-pfizer?r=biv2x&utm_medium=ios
I believe the fact that the mRNA is not a vaccine would be key in any case. They identified the concoction as a vaccine because people worldwide are familiar with them and it is easy to sell familiarity. A true vaccine uses a very diluted strain of a live virus or alternatively a dead virus. The mRNA has NO virus in it so it was sold under false pretences. Add that to false advertising about ‘safe’ and ‘effective’ and no informed consent regarding possible death and many dangerous side effects and I am amazed this POISON is still being injected into people. It should have been off the market as soon as the VAERS reports came out. I am 🙏 that Jeff gets the PREP act dissolved so Big Pharma gets sued into oblivion.
Correct, and the recent 9th Circuit decision against the LA School District also removes many of the lower courts use of the 1905 SCOTUS Jacobsen ruling to uphold the COVID jab mandates if the plaintiffs (teachers & staff who refused the shot, in this case) can demonstrate that these shots do not stop transmission, which the CDC admitted in July of 2021 & Pfizer & Moderna never even tested for. Credit the great Leslie Manoonkian & her HFDF for supporting the case. They also got the masks removed from airplanes in early 2022.
Thanks for that background. Lots going on worldwide in the fight against Pharma and Globalization. They work side by side.
This is not about mandates though- this case has nothing to do with any of this.
Incorrect. The Prep Act allows for the creation of any biological without requiring safety, efficacy or approval. The FDA and CDC input was just for show and to help usher the injections through, but completely unnecessary as neither agency has the authority to comment on, much less denounce, a DOD procured agent.
False advertising? Irrelevant. This is not a “medicine” of any kind. It was a government order with all legal mechanisms in place to protect it from any scrutiny. Please read Sasha’s and Katherine Watt’s substacks to understand in particular detail what I am saying. It is not what we’re accustomed to from a legal or procedural stance.
Exactly. I don't know why we keep making excuses for them. All of this was a deliberate, self-conscious, decades long effort to commit mass murder for profit.
Dr. David Martin: Since 2002 coronavirus has been a man-made pathogen: “We have a commercially interested group of sociopaths who want to make money while killing people,” Dr. Martin said, “that’s the bottom line.”...
Intended Consequences: mRNA 'Vaccines' were Designed to Cause Severe Disease and Be Resistant to Antibodies:
https://karenkingston.substack.com/p/intended-consequences-mrna-vaccines-ac3
Also, Kathrine Watt's Substack. She writes in depth about all the laws passed that lead up to this great debacle, plus what can and cannot be done about it and why.
Yes, agree!
The lawsuit alleges that the PREP act is unconstitutional for several reasons, as well as that the COVID-19 emergency declaration under the Act is a violation of the APA and therefore should be set aside (even if the constitutional arguments were to fail).
I’m in. Your PREP Act lawsuit is critically important.
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Agree!
A Veteran's issue RFK jr was tweeting about yesterday
Exposing ICER’s Anti-Veteran Campaign Against MDMA-Assisted Therapy
https://x.com/WeHeroicHearts/status/1805246958765765069
Thanks for posting.
Yes!!!
I agree! We need them to have plenty of funds to win this case.
Yes!
Absolutely.
Best news ever! Will pray everyday that you succeed In destroying the PREP Act....blessings to you ...and the warriors KW and SL who have been so instrumental in alerting us to this Hideous Act..totally unconstitutional.
Seriously sir...we the people owe you an enormous debt....
“For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.”
Isaiah 9:6 NKJV
https://bible.com/bible/114/isa.9.6.NKJV
I wish there was a “love” button. One of my favorite passages.
This is a POWERFUL passage, because here you can see the real divinity of Jesus!
Jesus = Wonderful
Jesus = Counselor
Jesus = Mighty God
Jesus = Everlasting Father
Jesus = Prince of Peace
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Praying for the Lord’s gracious favor and a victorious outcome for your PREP Act lawsuit!!
I think it’s appropriate to repost the poem from the other day—courage and perseverance, Jeff and dear C&C fam!
It Couldn’t Be Done
BY EDGAR ALBERT GUEST
Somebody said that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!
Somebody scoffed: “Oh, you’ll never do that;
At least no one ever has done it;”
But he took off his coat and he took off his hat
And the first thing we knew he’d begun it.
With a lift of his chin and a bit of a grin,
Without any doubting or quiddit,
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it.
There are thousands to tell you it cannot be done,
There are thousands to prophesy failure,
There are thousands to point out to you one by one,
The dangers that wait to assail you.
But just buckle in with a bit of a grin,
Just take off your coat and go to it;
Just start in to sing as you tackle the thing
That “cannot be done,” and you’ll do it.
^^love it. Along the same lines, the only people who ever change the world are the ones crazy enough to think they can (paraphrasing Steve Jobs)!
Yes!! If we start out thinking it’s impossible, it certainly will be. No one who ever accomplished anything great or worthwhile set out with the attitude that they could never succeed.
Learned helplessness is something "they" have been trying to instill in the people for a very long time.
Indeed, very true.
Manifesting is a powerful thing that cuts both ways. Positive thoughts bring positive outcomes.
Indeed!
Amen!
Jeff we can never thank you enough. Can't wait to read your filing. Where there is risk THERE MUST BE CHOICE. I will never get over what this fiasco has done to all of us on so many levels.
I am disappointed, although not surprised, that the VA has made no effort to study how the covid plandemic, and the mitigation efforts, have affected veterans.
For every month of isolation, a veteran's chance of suicide increases.
Probably will take the VA 30 years to acknowledge the problem...just like it took them 30 years to acknowledge that exposure to Agent Orange was deadly.
The military is basically a guinea pig for lots of different 'science' experiments. It's sickening. Plus, they must have lots of good database info on these covid 'vaccines' but that's probably not going to come out for a long time either.
DoD will delete that database of harms.
There were a couple of whistleblower who showed data… one was a flight surgeon regarding how it was effecting pilots. They got censored immediately. The military has the information as the military has only two contacts for medical. They will not show the data as it will show that they made a huge mistake.
It’s always way too late , usually when wrongdoing is discovered and there’s nowhere to hide, that they fess up and try to remedy damage. Just like the Camp Lejeune water contamination issues.
On their site it says “If you served at either of these locations between August 1, 1953, and December 31, 1987, you may be eligible for disability and health care benefits”.
1987 is over 30 years ago!
On an Island CORRECTION: ... the Camp that formerly identified itself as “Camp Lejeune”.
Woke Pentagon rewriting history.
Well, it is a federal government controlled administration. It’s in the name. So yeah, they won’t do anything that might stain Mr. poopy pants
Mr. Pedo Poopy Pants.
"Where there is risk, there must be choice."
That is a quote for the ages. Thanks, AM.
Thanks Roger - I can't take the credit for that phrase but also not sure where I heard it. But it makes complete sense to me in the legal paradigm of informed consent (which is the standard in this country).
Well, if you did plagiarize it - even inadvertently - try the Claudine Gay defense. Or the Tracie-Hyphen-Jones Barrett defense. Or the Alade McKen defense. Most of the time, they save the culprit's career!
Good thought Roger. :P But seriously to me it's as common as saying the sun rises in the east. How the hell do we have informed CONSENT with mandates? With risk inherent to products created in less than a year and that have never been used before? It seems like consent would be even more important in that scenario. Where did the med mal legal practitioners go on this issue? Just bizarre to me.
Follow the money ... seems like nearly everyone in the fields has a price, and Big Pharma correctly identified it (using Joe Biden's F-15s as backup to take care of those few pesky noncompliant ethical holdouts).
Yep exactly. What a cretin.
Thank you for all you do on behalf of freedom, Jeff. Even for those of us not in the States, a step toward freedom anywhere is a gain for all of us. I don't know how you find time to do all that you do.
Yes!
I know two people who lost loved ones due to the hospital death protocols. When they sought justice, they got nowhere. God Bless you Jeff. Due to your hard fought efforts, there just may be some relief on the horizon.
We lost my brother due to the lockdowns. They neglected to care for him when he had a bowel obstruction and my parents and SIL were not allowed inside to advocate for him. They tried to sue the facility but the health department backed them up and said they had acted appropriately 😡🤬
Very, very sad. I'm very sorry about your brother. I know someone whose 90 yr old mother was in the hospital 1 week before passing and they were not allowed to see her until AFTER she passed. Everyone of these people who did those things needs to be held accountable.
It’s really inhumane and even criminal, the negligence and disregard 😢
RL, I'm not sure when your brother died, but typically there is a SOL of 3 years for medical malpractice suits and even if the health department signed off on the incident, your family could still ask a plaintiff's lawyer to take a look at the case.
My SIL had worked in it but from what I heard she hadn’t made any progress 😕 It was in NY state so not a very favorable location 😕
I'm sorry about your brother... it's horrible what's become of some of our hospitals. My elderly, non verbal mother with dementia was in the hospital twice since covid. They essentially were starving her to death. She needs one to once feeding and for fluids. I would go in to her room and the food tray would have been delivered hours ago and was completely out of reach even if she could feed herself. I was disgusted and pray i never need to be hospitalized.
Thank you. I’m so sorry about your mother’s experiences too. It’s both heartbreaking and infuriating.
I'm certain we ALL have at least one person or two who SUFFERED and even died due to this PLANDEMIC...
Mom who went untreated and died ... Sister who was treated with a ventilator and died...
Friend diagnosed with cancer early in the month and died before that month was over...
Friend whose lower eye lid drooped (like a well known politician) ... Various children at school with heart problems ...
Niece diagnosed with brain tumors ... Niece diagnosed with skin ulcers ...
Cousins with all kinds of illnesses... AND the list goes on and on......
Now I want to remind you, though you know all things, that Jesus, having once saved a people out of the land of Egypt, subsequently destroyed those who did not believe. And angels who did not keep their own domain, but abandoned their proper abode, He has kept in eternal bonds under darkness for the judgment of the great day, just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, having indulged in the same way as these in gross sexual immorality and having gone after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire. Yet in the same way these men, also by dreaming, defile the flesh, and reject authority, and blaspheme glorious ones.
— Jude 5-8 LSB
Just between you and me, this passage is what finally helped me understand and head covering
I Corinthians 11:1-11.
But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God. Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoreth his head. But every woman praying or prophesying with her head unveiled dishonoreth her head; for it is one and the same thing as if she were shaven. For if a woman is not veiled, let her also be shorn: but if it is a shame to a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be veiled. For a man indeed ought not to have his head veiled, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man. For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man: for neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man:
1Co 11:10 for this cause ought the woman to have a sign of authority on her head, because of the angels.
This is about a sign of knowing and allowing our place in Gods design, of men and if women, to ALL of creation in the assembly of mixed worship. It's about gender. It's about design. It's about humility. Saved humanity, and unsaved are testifying to the nature and character of The Creator.
Great comment. As a modern American woman, and as a latecomer to Christianity, I struggle with this.
Friendly edit: "It's about sex." (not 'gender') The word 'gender' was highjacked, specifically to allow claims that "gender is a social construct." Sex, biological sex, is binary, notwithstanding that there are intersex humans born, etc.; they're 'inter' between the two biological sexes. We should take all of our words back, not just this one.
Enoch's book explains this well and how these so called enlightened elite know how to manipulate humanity by the secrets shared to their ancestors by these angels and they continue to use this knowledge against us to this day.
God knows and He will punish. Many are waiting in a torturous environment now till judgement day.
The stories of the Plaintiff's in Jeff's PREP lawsuit are so tragic. So many harmed by the Jabs. These handful of people are just many examples. Like Jeff Jackson, 49 in Lucedale, MS. He was a very active cell phone tower tech, climbing 400 feet up during 12-hour shifts.
His Moderna shot immediately caused his arm to turn purple. "When he woke the next morning, he had what felt like a terrible case of the flu. Within five days his skin began to peel off, a condition that
got worse until he was shedding his own skin as if he had a severe sunburn. The condition covered his whole body, including his face. It was painful, involving lesions and pustules on his armpits and inner
thighs and scabs all over his body. At the same time, his entire body discolored into various shades of pink and purple."
Finally he was diagnosed with lichenoid dermatitis and plaque psoriasis, along with joint disorder causing pain for any movement, and his teeth became brittle, breaking under pressure.
He filed a CICP claim to HRSA in 2022, but they've ignored him...
THUS THIS LAWSUIT. Thanks Jeff Childers for fighting for these people!
So awful what that poor man has been through 😞 And hearing in my mind all of the dismissive and smug responses of “side effects are rare” from the jab apologists makes me even angrier. As long as it didn’t happen to them, oh well, it’s just collateral damage 🙄😡
And countless others have suffered so much for government malfeasance.
This is nothing less that what Nazi Dr Mengele did!! They ALL deserve the same end 🔥
Except that Dr. Josef Mengele escaped to South America.
He was never punished.
Thank you for the name correction. 😁 And he is being judged in Gods wrath. Who was it that helped him escape?!
Thank you very much for sharing this horrid historical fact.
It was probably the US and the Vatican who helped him escape.
Operation Paperclip.
The History channel had an entire series " Finding Hitler" a few years ago. Many in Argentina remember the Germans there that still had the trappings of Nazis. May still be in the History channel app or History Vault. Excellent series.
Exactly!
Agreed… the stories are heartbreaking…. Hopefully Justice for all injured and killed will result and the PREP act and 1986 NCVIA vaccine injury act which does nothing to protect the injured and everything to protect big harma will be overturned with no possible appeal… then I read this breaking news… the Supreme Court dismissing the right to free speech in the Biden v Missouri case… https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2024-06-26/supreme-court-social-media?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1R0Yhunx-VS3KG0Tj70pObBFWsE-DXp341H1roIp_rKqpSLbNhScMbB-k_aem_Yf0tSse210APnEMLqwGfCA… worrying….
Absolutely awful! Can't help but wonder, though, could it be that the poor cell tower tech guy was also harmed by the cell tower radiation as well as the jab, maybe the radiation worsened his jab-induced condition?
Pretty sure he wasn't climbing any towers after the injuries occurred, given how disabled he suddenly became. And there was no sign of harm prior, he remained fit and healthy. So any contribution of EMF would be highly speculative.
This ⬆️
My final payment to my student loans was made on the exact day Biden signed the executive order forgiving them. It was a proud day for me personally - took roughly 15 years to pay off. But, I chose to make an investment in myself, and I alone was responsible for that. I would never, ever, have waived that responsibility nor expected others to pay it for me. I wonder how many people have had their loans forgiven when presented the choice - or planned to. It would certainly say a lot about what kind of person they are, and what principles they have, imo.
I just paid off my student loan in February, after 10 years! It was my loan - no one else’s. I knew when I signed the contract it was never going to be forgiven nor should it be. I knew what I signed. Every single person who takes out a student loan is made very aware that this debt does not ever go away until you pay it off or die. It is made very clear. We all willingly signed the contract. My degree did not pay off for me. Yes I am educated because of the classes I took but because of my circumstances I cannot get a job that makes that loan pay for itself. It. Does. Not. Matter. I still took the loan out willingly.
I fully believe that these colleges are pulling a deceptive and dastardly intent to charge students for classes they do not need to take. These degrees are put together full of garbage classes that students have to take and pay for when they have nothing to do with their specialty. It’s a waste of money. It’s a cash grab for these schools and they should be ashamed of themselves. The extra “fees” they charge adds to the deceptive practices. This college degree thing is a scam! I would never go back and redo what I did. Nor would I encourage a young person to do it. The education system is broken and needs to be demolished and rebuilt with common sense. And my degree is in accounting. A worth while degree.
That’s another thing different from universities in other countries that people keep saying cost so much less. You generally (from all of the countries I have experience with at least) focus on a specialization right away and don’t take “general studies” kinds of classes.
There is a lot of truth in what you said about the courses required for a degree (usually gen eds that make a well-rounded student—hard eye roll here). This speaks to meeting accreditation standards, set by the DOE (not sure which bureaucratic entity is responsible). If the degree is not accredited it has diminished value in the job market, (Bible College degrees are often not accredited). Most/all(?) professional licensure agencies require accredited degrees.
Tptb truly control us.
And that sense of accomplishment only comes from doing it yourself. Just like people who cheat will never have the satisfaction of having done a job well on their own.
Good for you! My son has been paying for about 10 years…God helps those that help themselves, that’s what my parents used to tell me.
Actually God helps everyone especially those who cannot help themselves...I mean, we are all breathing.
Wrong. If God only helped those who help themselves, WE WOULDN'T NEED HIM.
It was what my mom used to say…probably because I was being lazy 🤣🤷🏻♀️ always stuck with me. Maybe she meant that everyone has a gift to use that can help you/others.
I feel like it means that we can’t just sit back and do nothing, expecting God to take care of everything without making any effort ourselves.
My huband used to "claim it." He thought it came from Scripture...
In a word, it cheapens God, our Father. God helps those who call upon Him in earnest, and those who cannot do as others can. He is enough. Claiming otherwise, cheapens His sovereignty.
I tried to claim a house about 20 years ago. Sort of in fun cuz I don’t believe in the name and claim it. But we were wanting to buy a house and it seemed like it could be in our price range if it was for sale. 🤦🏼♀️ God has a sense of humor because the next day I drove past that house and it was on fire. True story! 😂 It burned to the ground. I’ve never claimed anything ever again.
Prayers for overwhelming success on your most important lawsuit and thank you for raising it. It would be wonderful if Trump paid attention and brought it up in the debate including expressing his support for Prep Act abolition. It is indeed a most despicable and harmful "law".
May our prayers keep you strong during this fight against what is, truly, a tyrannical government.
Jeff, may God watch over you and your family. Thank you for fighting the Godly fight with this lawsuit,my family will be praying for a positive outcome.
Ditto on all of the thanks, appreciation, prayers and willingness to fight with such integrity. God bless you in this endeavor. You are a hero in my book.