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Josh's avatar

I’m pretty sure I have the covid (not a tester, and never got the shots). This is the first time since 2021. I’m on day 8 of mild fever, chills, and body aches. Also, things taste super salty, so that’s weird. Anyway, all this to say is how thankful I am to have a backbone and to be able to stand up to the largest psyop any government has ever done on its people. I will prevail, eventually 😁

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

You didn’t ask, but here’s advice: elderberry syrup, lots of vitamin C, D3, turmeric, and ivermectin if you can get it. Oh yes, and zinc!

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

And homemade chicken soup!

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I had read many years ago, that the Federal government ran 'lab tests' on the efficacy of homemade chicken broth to boost the immune system. The end result was IT WORKS!! (as if we didn't already know that!!!)

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M. Patrick McCrary's avatar

Which means that the government must have tested antibody levels before and after the subject slurped down their chicken soup so why is that too much to ask of the jabs? Antibody titers are available for all the major childhood vaccines and have spared many from going through revaxing when entering schools, the military etc., so the fact that no agreed standard has been set for the jabs suggests strongly that we've been scammed from the start, (I know...no newsflash here).

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Occam's avatar

Correct - this is the fishy part - being constantly told (and reprimanded) that the shots were helpful, but they DIDN'T EVEN EVALUATE efficacy in any meaningful way.

Crazy how so many people just slurped it all up from these liars.

It's not like there isn't scientific protocol for evaluating these drugs.

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Tio Nico's avatar

who needs labwork? I learned all I needed to know as I persued the true tale about the Princess Cruise liner in Tokyo Harbour. both the early reports when the story broke, and the weeks bearing no news on the matter until it disappeared down the rabbithole where the wierd queen holds reign. Then on to the last report, buried way in the back at the comic section, where the actual important NUMBErS on deaths, length o inphection, severity, and numbers actually inphected were reported. The part to the whole story the "medical eggs spurts" tried so valiantly to bury. I seem torecall deaths in single digits, all in advanced age and signiphicant co-morbidities, numbe inphected in double digits, most mildly so, a small number with pesistent symptoms.

Probably no worse than any normal outbreak with Asian Phlu or similar .

Covid? What, me worry? Are you mad?????? Or do you merely think I am?

Our medical community have done yeoman work at voiding what little trust I once had in their charade.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

EXACTLY, Patrick - the only people buying into the bioweapon jabs are the "brain dead" and if they weren't B.D.'ers PRE jab--they surely are BD'ers NOW!

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Chixbythesea's avatar

FYI:

This is a big deal-

EU admits Coof jab was released for human use w/o safety data.

(Per Discord TV)

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randall stoehr's avatar

The chicken fat molecules deliver the goods.

Fats are the transport system in many cases of remedy.

Do not skim it off the soup.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Aldi ORGANIC BONE BROTH

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Mike's avatar

ahhhhh.....Get a pressure cooker and 2 flats of chicken thighs. put it in the cooker with 2 cups of water. cook for 55 minutes full pressure allow to cool naturally. Open pull the chicken off the bones (I use the meat for dog food, cheap and clean) put the bones back in with 2 additional cups of water. cook for 30 min full pressure. when cooled you'll have lots of liquid gold broth with out any chems!

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Janet's avatar

I’m still queasy about pressure cookers. My mom had one blow up back in the day. What a mess. Scared the crap out of younger me. I use a big slow cooker for bone broth.

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David Nelson's avatar

The reason pressure cookers blow up is one of two: either they boil dry, or some of the contents "reach" the underside of the lid which is also where the bottom of the release vent is, which blocks the vent--DANGER WILL ROBINSON!.

What was it the bumper sticker said: "If the van is a rockin', don't come a knockin'?"

For pressure cookers (canners included), "If the rocker is a rockin', nothin' be a blockin'."

If you can hear the rocker, it's alternately being lifted by the pressure (ever-so-slightly lowering pressure), and falling back onto the vent as a result (causing pressure to build up enough again to raise the weight for another release).

This engineer thinks it's tragic that people won't use pressure cookers because they're afraid of them; they save loads of energy and prepare, and preserve, food in ways other methods can't.

If you take a little time to understand how they work, start with enough water, and keep an ear or eye on the rocker, and treat it like a dangerous tool, it can serve you well.

Having writ that, I got a 2nd-degree burn across my middle because I took the lid off too early. The National Center for Home Canning and Food Preservation, at U.Ga, ORDERS you NEVER to take the lid off the canner UNTIL the pressure has dropped back to ZERO. However, they only RECOMMEND (so my warped thinking went) that AFTER the pressure reaches ZERO, the cooker be allowed to rest some 10 minutes after the pressure weight is removed. I was following the other advice about opening the lid away from me when one of the pint jars imploded sending its contents bouncing off other stuff and out through the narrow gap between the lid and the pot, creating a stripe of "hot-HOT" across my shirt. I wouldn't have been burned if I'd stripped the shirt off immediately, but I was trying to figure out wot happingd? This is NOT a case of ANOTHER pressure cooker casualty, but one of "the exception that proves the rule" that you should familiarize yourself with the recommendations. And then join the ranks of all those forebears who cooked and canned for very good reason.

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CMCM's avatar

I love pressure cookers! I've had one for 56 years since the day I got married....never a problem!

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kittynana's avatar

@Janet- I used to be too for that very reson but the newer safety features make them very safe.

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Lynn46's avatar

I have a new slow cooker my son gave me I haven't used yet. I would like to make my own bone broth. Can you post your recipe, how to? I haven't used a slow cooker in years since my old one cracked. Thanks

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HMC's avatar

An Instant Pot works too - add onion, garlic, celery, carrots (all organic) to the chicken. )I use a carcass after roasting) Cover with water, cook for 3-4 hours. Drian, refrigerate, remove fat layer, and you have broth! (I actually boil my down to concentrate it, then freeze dry,so I always have homemade broth when I want/need it)

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Only for cooking and broth NOT CANNING.

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David Nelson's avatar

+1 on the Ipot. Some even freeze their concentrated broths (cooled) in ice cube trays. I don't know any of them though.

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pretty-red, old guy's avatar

thanks!

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Thank you Mike!

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AngelaK's avatar

Yup, but it is time consuming

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Mike's avatar

well, you're right. For me knowing what I'm eating is worth the time. Bon appetit.

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

Read labels. I believe there are multiple types of msg in the Aldi broth. I believe Trader Joe’s has one that is more clean.

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LJ's avatar

Yes they do. Trader Joe’s Organic Free Range Chicken Broth. I have some on my shelf and just double checked it’s quite pure and tastes good. I think Whole Foods organic one doesn’t have MSG either. Also MSG masquerades under other names. Be careful of anything with “Yeast Extract”. Sadly it’s in almost all processed foods.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Oh NO! NO MSG!!

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Heavy Salt. Many have reactions to MSG.

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Pamela's avatar

Homemade is best because it actually has fat, which we were meant to consume with the meat and broth. Hardly any commercial brands have fat.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Thanks for saying Lcakes.

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AngelaK's avatar

Costco has a good (organic) one.

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

Kettle & Fire makes several clean options.

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RunningLogic's avatar

They’re expensive but really good!

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

Our Costco had the beef version in a 6-pack recently for a very good price.

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

This is starting to read like a wonderful menu!

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Carolyn's avatar

Make your own at home...no canned stuff

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Janet's avatar

Decent bones. Not rotisserie chicken bones or normal grocery bones.

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Peace's avatar

Where do you get your "decent bones"?

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Concerned mom's avatar

Farmer's Market, pastured raised beef or chicken... I got some excellent knuckle bones as well... I make a 24 hr. beef broth on extra low heat in my crock pot, jar & freeze it

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Roger Beal's avatar

My wife's Ashkenazi family called homemade chicken soup "Jewish penicillin".

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Silent scorn's avatar

The joint pain is the worst! But I’ll take it any day over a jab in my body. Get well soon 💙

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Pamela's avatar

Not to mention that you’d have both the jab and the joint pain that way. It’s not either/or, it’s both/and. 😅

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Reelin’ In The Fears's avatar

But only made from free range, organic chicken! I’m not joking about that.

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Sarcastia's avatar

THIS.

Always.

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

💯

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SushiRoll's avatar

plus green tea!

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Melissa S's avatar

And go sit outside in the sunshine, preferably with bare feet on dirt or grass.

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Jeff S's avatar

Accompanied by cat and dog.

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shayne's avatar

And you ground at the same time. I grew up barefoot.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Noooo! I can’t have people who are outside barefoot come into the house unless they wash their feet first! (We have a sink in the garage but we still don’t ever go outside barefoot)

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I NEVER liked going outside barefoot as a child and DEF NOT NOW! I hardly walk around INSIDE barefoot--just prefer some 'footwear' (usually socklets or my very comfortable 'boat shoes'.

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MayBella82's avatar

Morning time is best.

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Dr Linda's avatar

Add nattokinase to destroy tge spike protein. It won’t hurt

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Silent scorn's avatar

This!!

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pretty-red, old guy's avatar

How about Lumbrokinase Dr Linda? Wouldn't that be good for the same thing, maybe better?

and. . . assuming you put a couple or 10 gel caps into the broth before serving.

Will these gel caps of Natto or Lumbro be heated up too high during re-heat causing them to be de-activated or ineffective in some way?

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Dr Linda's avatar

I use lumbrokinase & serrapeptase as well. There has been a lot of data collection on lumbrokinase, however I use it.

Since these are an effective digestion aid, I take it with warm water rather than food substances. Make sense?

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Do you have any remedies for chronic bloating despite regular bowel movements? Sorry, TMI but this is been a problem for a couple months now and very uncomfortable!

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Dr Linda's avatar

Nattokinase & lumbrokinase will help.

Here is an article regarding a different approach

https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/how-dmso-heals-the-gut-and-cures

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

It's related to your diet - I started taking a high-quality probiotic supplement each and every morning BEFORE eating anything. I get mine from Swanson.com - Dr. Stephen Langer's probiotic--here's a link to it on the Swanson website: https://www.swansonvitamins.com/p/swanson-probiotics-dr-stephen-langers-ultimate-16-strain-probiotic-fos-3-2-billon-cfu-60-veg-drcaps

This ended the 'bloats' for me and also improved my 'bathrooming' frequency. What REALLY helped in that 'arena' was eating fresh seedless GRAPES each and every day - now...'nada' problemo!!

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MarshaLouise's avatar

Are you consuming lactose-free dairy? Lactose can be a major cause of bloating. I’ve had two specialists diagnose my lactose-intolerance as pancreatitis. It can get exceedingly painful. I did my own research and remedied that.

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Dr Linda's avatar

I will look at some papers. I had irritable bowel / crohn’s as part of my SLE.

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C. Wilson's avatar

Perfect answer. Anyone can get ivermectin legally now. It's not cheap, but if you are sick.... Also, might be a good idea to get a friend in Texas by Dec 4 when you can get the stuff OTC.

What's wrong with the stupid Florida legislature that WE can't get it here.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Iver is only really useful from day 1-3. Also 100K iu of Vitamin D3.

Cold pressed organic black seed oil wouldn’t hurt.

Those 3 things give viruses (and tumors) a very bad day.

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Kay's avatar

My husband began taking ivermectin on day 10, and I could see his improvement the next day. It even works for the after effects.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

This is not the norm.

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Kay's avatar

I don’t know where you get your information, but I’ve read quite a bit about its ability to work at any point of covid infection. As another commenter pointed out, it is hydroxychloroquine whose effects are limited to early on.

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Fred's avatar

There is good evidence of benefit even later in the course of the disease. Surprised me too.

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Justin's avatar

You're confusing hydroxychloroquine which is only efficacious in the first few days. Ivermectin is good from beginning to (hopefully not) death.

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Lori H's avatar

Correct - Ivermectin for 5-10 days. I took it when I got Covid in 2022 and had a mild case and felt bad only one day, no Covid after effects either. You can order from Dr. McCullough. Or over the counter here in Texas!

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LJ's avatar

McCullough is expensive. Prohibitive for many people. I am sorry but over $300? I have followed McCullough for a long time and do not begrudge he and his associates from making money after they were demeaned, cancelled and even, in some cases de-licensed. But I simply can’t afford. I am in Texas and waiting for Dec 4 when it becomes Over-the-counter. Hopefully some of the conservative towns outside my large city will carry and be willing to dispense. Doubtful my large city liberal pharmacies will offer.

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Fred's avatar

Big fan of Dr. McCullough, but not of his Wellness Company. Expensive; inadequate supply IMO.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

No I’m not actually. The efficacy of Iver diminishes after day 3. So whereas you “can” take it after day 3, without it before day 3, there’s not likely to be much improvement showing due to the Iver.

It works best when you’re in the initial stages with a power punch.

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Janet's avatar

Ivermectin took my symptoms away in 2 days. Mine was influenza A in January.

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rolandttg's avatar

Black seed is great against parasites too, a much underreported problem

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Fred's avatar

Stone et al. (2022) A retrospective analysis was conducted on 34 severe COVID-19 patients who were hypoxic (low oxygen levels) on room air and received an ivermectin-based combination therapy. The study reported that 62% of the patients normalized their oxygen saturation (\(SpO_{2}\)) within 24 hours of receiving the treatment. The authors noted that this contrasted with the decline typically seen in severe COVID-19 cases under standard care.

A Turkish study (2021), though small and single-blind, included severe COVID-19 patients with pneumonia. It found that while oxygen saturation (\(SpO_{2}\)) increased in both ivermectin and control groups, the increase was statistically significantly higher in the ivermectin group after 10 days of follow-up. The study noted a more pronounced reduction in inflammatory markers like C-reactive protein (CRP), ferritin, and D-dimer in the ivermectin group.

Rajter et al. (2021) A retrospective study on hospitalized COVID-19 patients in Florida found that ivermectin treatment was associated with lower mortality. This benefit was especially pronounced in the subgroup of patients with severe pulmonary involvement who required higher levels of oxygen or ventilator support.

Hazan et al. (2022) A study of 24 ambulatory, but severely hypoxic, patients in California who refused hospitalization found that a combination treatment including ivermectin and other agents resulted in an improvement in mean oxygen saturation from 87.4% to 93.1% within 24 hours. The authors reported no hospitalizations or deaths in this group.

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Unapologetically Me's avatar

How does one take the black seed oil. What is your recommendation? (I recently bought some in an Indian market.)

Thank you.

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

We have capsules AND a bottle in liquid form. The liquid tastes awful.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Capsules are a small amount. A teaspoon or tablespoon once a day, down the hatch, with a coffee chaser. Do not go for a strength level lower than 3. Over 5 can be bit much too.

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Dr. Ralph LaGuardia of The Medical Underground Substack says this: "The typical oral dose is one teaspoon (5 ml) of black seed oil daily. You can mix this in yogurt or sprinkle it on salads. My point is you can take it any way you like.

If you are taking it in capsule form, then usually 1,000 mg or one gram a day is a typical dose. Once again, don’t feel locked in, adjust it to your needs."

Here's his Substack on black seed oil:

https://substack.com/home/post/p-141750120

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LJ's avatar

I took about 1t of raw Zhou brand twice a day while sick but I also take 80 other naturals that control inflammation. I do think Zyflamend by New Chapter is excellent for inflammation if you can afford it. And CongaPlex from Standard process. If you can afford it take 2 of each every 4 hours.

I am not a doctor.

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Fred's avatar

It makes perfect sense that IVM should be beneficial during the early viral replication phase. However, there are a few studies (I posted a few links elsewhere and now can't locate them) that show remarkable improvement in oxygen saturation and other benefits even late in the disease course.

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MarshaLouise's avatar

Wow…I thought my 10 - 20K of D3 was high. I read that it kills cancer cells?!

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Chixbythesea's avatar

10iu per day (10K) is good but if you’re feeling something coming on, do 3 days of 100K. I don’t know if it kills cancer but I’m sure cancer doesn’t like it.

Cancers also does not like the autophagy you can get from a 7 day water fast.

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pretty-red, old guy's avatar

how about vit K1 to help the D3?

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Vitamin K2 is the one recommended to accompany D3.

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Mike's avatar

Resolve.health for ivermectin. 2ndsmartestguyintheworld@substack.com

Pure pharmaceutical grade ivermectin in 12mg tabs

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Janet's avatar

Yup. That’s where we get ours. It and Fenben has given my husband 2 clear/remission tests since spring for his bladder cancer.

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RunningLogic's avatar

That’s wonderful!

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Janet's avatar

Thank you! Very grateful. I had saved all the information for the past 2 years—just in case.

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Sarcastia's avatar

Wowzer!!

That's great! Very happy for you both!

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Janet's avatar

Great service too and substantial sale prices often from second Smartest links to the company. It was 35% recently.

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Absolutely! That's where I buy all mine too! And it ships quickly. (Don't you just love that it's called "Petmectin"? LOLOLOL)

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pretty-red, old guy's avatar

Your link must be wrong. . . physical therapy and yoga website, no links for pharma drugs that I can see. . .

https://www.resolvx.health/

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shibumi's avatar

Umm... I'm not sure everyone can get it legally.

And just because states say it's legal, it's not like every pharmacist will dispense it. In Nashville, where it's been legal for a few years, there are only 2 pharmacies that will dispense it, and you have to jump through hoops to get it.

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robren72's avatar

Try Germproof/Ivermectin.com, they sell Ivermectin without a prescription. And their silver spray is amazing! I always keep two bottles on hand for minor cuts or scratches.

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pretty-red, old guy's avatar

that's McCullough's website, the Wellness company. . . which this thread was started with and is looking for alternatives. . . due to cost.

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robren72's avatar

The Wellness company is a different organization, this is the business I was referring to:

https://ivermectin.com/

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C. Wilson's avatar

If they say it is OTC, it's over the counter. Pharmacists have no say. Maybe a drug store won't sell it, but plenty will. The stuff has always been "legal." And, anyone in America can get ivermectin. I've been getting it legally for years.

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shibumi's avatar

https://kesq.com/health/cnn-health/2025/04/24/ivermectin-is-now-available-over-the-counter-in-some-us-states-what-is-it-used-for/

Right now, there's one state where it's OTC. You can get it legally from other countries via the internet/mail, but it's not sitting at the drug store next to the Tylenol.

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C. Wilson's avatar

I'm getting a lot of response. I don't need the stuff. Was able to get it cheaply beginning in 2021 or so. I have all I could want. This may help others.

The problem with it coming in from outside the country is the new tariff situation. Small packages.... I did have one order that got stuck in customs a couple of years ago. I always ordered express shipment with insurance. They just sent another order a different way.

My point isn't Florida. My point is it should be OTC. No Rx. If I need more now, I'll get the horse stuff.

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pretty-red, old guy's avatar

interesting so

Idaho

goofy story featuring the anti-IVM NIH sponsored Leana Wen! as the "source".

Great.

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LJ's avatar

Sadly, in some states they do have a say. In Texas, some years BEFORE the plandemic, scamdemic, a law was passed allowing pharmacists to not dispense meds they had ethical concerns about. The idea was to protect pharmacists who did not want to dispense “The Morning After Pill”. The problem? It also allowed pharmacists to say no to Ivermectin.

I would recommend going outside a large city, many rural areas are much more conservative and willing to NOt follow the idiotic narrative. Also might be best to find one that compounds.

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C. Wilson's avatar

Yes, all of that is true, but if it is designated at OTC, over the counter, then it will be much easier to get. "someplace" in your area will have it. THEY will make a ton of money and the others will fall into line...money talks, BS walks!

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Smatse's avatar

I tried to buy it over the counter at the Maryville, TN CVS in March 2023. They refused to let me buy it without a prescription. This is after TN passed their law to make it over-the-counter. I spoke personally with the pharmacist. So, just because a state passes a law doesn't mean you can buy it like aspirin.

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FloridaTransplant's avatar

What are those two pharmacies? I’m traveling to Nashville next month. What are the hoops?

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shibumi's avatar

I'm not in Nashville; my SIL is. She went to a compounding pharmacy. There are supposedly two in town, I think one on the east side, one on the west side. She had to go in, have a chat with the pharmacist about about the medications she was taking, got her weight, that sort of thing. THEN they made up the IVM for her. Not sure of the price.

You might want to check out 2nd smartest guy in the world on substack; he has a connection to a vet one. That might actually be cheaper, and it's the same as the one for humans. I've bought stuff from the firm he's linked, and it's fine. Plus... FWIW, my husband is a chemist and used to work for a few small pharma companies. It's the same stuff.

This is the link from Diane below:

https://www.resolvx.health/PetMectin

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Diane's avatar

https://www.resolvx.health/PetMectin

$69.95 for 50 tablets of 12 mg

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Joypam's avatar

Jeeeezzzz it’s $7 for 24 6mg tablets in Nicaragua. We go there for the winter and were using Ivermectin before Covid.

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Diane's avatar

Welcome to America, land of the greedy.

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Valerie's avatar

If you buy it from virex.com it’s not too expensive. It’s a ‘veterinarian’ prescription but it’s the 12mg human dose per tablet. And it’s not paste, it’s a tablet.

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Horizons's avatar

That site was hacked and is no longer good. If you go to 2nd Smartest Guy substack, it tells you the new site is ResolvX Health. And the substack sometimes has discount codes.

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Valerie's avatar

I’ve been using virex, I think 2nd smartest guy just changed his affiliation.

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Dr. Richard Moulton's avatar

You CAN get it in Florida (I have) with a prescription sent to a compounding pharmacy. They will even overnight the Ivermectin to you.

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C. Wilson's avatar

Affirmative. What we want is for it to be OTC...like sudafed. Might be behind the counter but no Rx needed- the way it is in most of the world.

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Jeffrey N. Gratton's avatar

Ivermectin: $6 a box in Mexico

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MayBella82's avatar

Symtoms sound like flu. electrolytes are important, sunlight (morning is best) to get your vit D, barefoot to get a little grounding... and sunshine just makes

you feel better. lots of sleep so tge body can foxus on healing.

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C. Wilson's avatar

I'm not sick. Maybe this was supposed to go to someone else?

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MayBella82's avatar

To the person talking about having COVID... symtoms sound like the flu.

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Mrs. Itoldya!'s avatar

I’ve ordered from these guys a few times. Quick shipping, but somewhat confusing order form. So worth it to us. And we do a full week course, every three months of 12mg Iver, 222mg FenBen & 1/2 teaspoon of liquid DMSO, daily.

https://gomedicinecounter.com/

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CStone's avatar

We can’t in Kentucky. Our precious blue governor told drs and pharmacists they would lose their license if they wrote/filled a Rx.

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C. Wilson's avatar

That's why it is important to have it designated as OTC. Over the counter. No Rx needed. Your stupid governor....well, you already know he hates his people and thinks you are stupid.

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Fred's avatar
Sep 20Edited

Vet IVM is identical, widely available, and exactly the same mg/kg dose as the human formulation. Just sayin’; not a recommendation, esp this late in the course. Although…from AI:

Stone et al. (2022) A retrospective analysis was conducted on 34 severe COVID-19 patients who were hypoxic (low oxygen levels) on room air and received an ivermectin-based combination therapy. The study reported that 62% of the patients normalized their oxygen saturation (\(SpO_{2}\)) within 24 hours of receiving the treatment. The authors noted that this contrasted with the decline typically seen in severe COVID-19 cases under standard care.

A Turkish study (2021), though small and single-blind, included severe COVID-19 patients with pneumonia. It found that while oxygen saturation (\(SpO_{2}\)) increased in both ivermectin and control groups, the increase was statistically significantly higher in the ivermectin group after 10 days of follow-up. The study noted a more pronounced reduction in inflammatory markers like C-reactive protein (CRP), ferritin, and D-dimer in the ivermectin group.

Rajter et al. (2021) A retrospective study on hospitalized COVID-19 patients in Florida found that ivermectin treatment was associated with lower mortality. This benefit was especially pronounced in the subgroup of patients with severe pulmonary involvement who required higher levels of oxygen or ventilator support.

Hazan et al. (2022) A study of 24 ambulatory, but severely hypoxic, patients in California who refused hospitalization found that a combination treatment including ivermectin and other agents resulted in an improvement in mean oxygen saturation from 87.4% to 93.1% within 24 hours. The authors reported no hospitalizations or deaths in this group. 

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WIMomof3's avatar

Ok question-

What’s wrong with the old fashioned “horse paste” from Tractor Supply? I know people who’ve used it with great results 🤷‍♀️

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SH's avatar

Some brains can't work out the correct dosage maybe?

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Fred's avatar

2mg/kg is the same in horses and humans (although the more recent recommendation is 0.2-0.4mg/kg or higher.

Under dosage, you will see: 91mcg/lb = 200mcg/kg which is 0.2mg/kg

So, for a 250lb person, 1/5th of the tube which has a stopper for each 250lb of weight

In terms of volume,

0.21oz = 1.26 tsp in the whole syringe; so, each of the 5 markings (for 250lb of weight) should be about ¼ tsp. (doesn’t have to be precise; very safe; usual pill size is 12mg).

Our friend jokes that he just takes a lick off the syringe every time he worms his horses. Ha!

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Linda's avatar

I have read that the elderberry syrup sets of a cytokine storm and is not good to take for covid…. Anyone else know anything about that?

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

I heard that too. When I had the sickness, at first my dr told me to stop it, but I was feeling better, so he said to continue. The most dramatic difference when I had a different strain the second time was a pm then am dose of ivermectin and then 1500 mg of turmeric. Throat stopped hurting.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Growing turmeric, second year in a row. Will be digging when frost takes the leaves.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Tumeric is a blood thinner, i think

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

It's also a grand anti-inflammatory supplement!

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Mike's avatar

You need to exercise care if you are on blood thinners. Ask your cardiologist for correct dosage

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Quiltlady's avatar

There are several foods and supplements that are blood thinners. Ginger is another one. Small amounts are probably okay, but be sure your doctor or Naturopath knows everything you are taking so they can warn you of any interactions to watch for. Fortunately, I am not on any Pharma drugs currently, only supplements.

I do wish that Doctors had more knowledge of things that help and don't harm. But the Investors in Pharma wouldn't make any money if they did that.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I don't take any pharmaceuticals. Just food. But thank you.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Is turmeric a corm or a bulb, ViaVeritasVita? I take it in capsule form combined with "bioperine" (black pepper) for inflammation issues (osteoarthritis mainly).

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Belling the Cat's avatar

It's more of a rhizome I think. I'm growing it and don't know :) but it looks most like ginger (not like a flower bulb and not like a gladiolus corm). (Tropical so even in zone 8 I can't grow in-ground, but so far has worked to overwinter in unheated garage, in large pots.)

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Rhizome. Like ginger (in same family). I bought mine at Whole Foods (the only reason for my going there). The turmeric plants look good, ginger not so much. But I’m new to growing these tropicals. Haven’t really figured out how to use it….just like to have stuff on hand.

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

Be sure to take it with some sort of fat (olive oil in your salad perhaps?) for max absorption.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Two turmeric roots turn into 30 in warm, part sun conditions!

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Hope so. Wasn’t impressed by last year’s production, and never used any of it. But I hadn’t known (my fault!) that it is a jungle plant, so wants not only heat, but shade. Have it in a better place this year. Every year is a gamble with so many growing things.

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Sarcastia's avatar

The leaves are also yummy in soups or as wraps. I love to wrap fish or chicken and bake.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Thank you for those ideas!

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Thank you, Sarcastia—I had read of using the leaves in cooking but had not considered it. Your personal recommendation adds value!

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

Edited that to make it correct.

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LJ's avatar

Elderberry got a bad reputation somewhere and I think some of its detractors gave out misinformation on it. I would recommend checking both FLCCC and greenmedinfo.com for more up-to-date research on Elderberry. What you said is possible however but I have never heard that.

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STH's avatar

Yes I read that too. Black seed oil was what helped me most. I took ivermectin but noticed nothing. I felt better with every dose of BSO

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Chixbythesea's avatar

16 Oz Black seed oil, cold pressed, organic downed in 2-1/2 weeks killed my friend’s kidney tumor.

Iver killed a large brain tumor in a friend of a friend when he couldn’t see a cancer doctor during the height of Covid.

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rolandttg's avatar

Jim Willie just wrote about this. Cancer is a parasite, or sure mimics one, that's why IV, Fen ben , and black seed oil work so well on it

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Agreed. I think it’s loose talk to speak of it as a parasite, but all these aggressive attack microorganisms like the same environment- acid, sugar diet, low immune system, etc.

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Shelle's avatar

Wow, that's amazing! I'm already a huge fan of black seed oil, but use it as a concentrated extract in softgels.

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LJ's avatar

It does seem Black Cumin Seed Oil acts very similar to Ivermectin. But I don’t know the COVID dosing and not all cold pressings seem standardized enough yo know how to dose. Any thoughts for COVId?

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Chixbythesea's avatar

No but take a look. Id still go with a teaspoon or tablespoon. No conflict exists that are known when also taken with other measures like high rise vitamin D3, vitamin C, ivermectin, colloidal silver. Etc

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Elderberry is mostly a benefit due to Vitamin C. It is also a bit of an anti-oxidant like other dark edible berries.

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Karmy's avatar

Elderberry syrup can be taken for 3-5 days then should be stopped to prevent the cytokine storm. That’s my understanding. I’m not a medical professional.

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LJ's avatar

Interesting. I had not heard this. Any research on why it causes?

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lela's avatar

No elderberry! It made my Covid much worse-exacerbates cytokine storm

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Ray Bob's avatar

Janice you left out one important medication, a time proven, time tested, wonder drug, a shot of 10-year-old bourbon ,it's truly a miraculous cure. make sure to get the medical bourbon, that's what my grandmother gave me growing up. And I turned out just fine, I live in a van down by the river. Follow me for more helpful life tips😄😁😆😅

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

I think it was my grandma who said not to take advice from anyone in a van. 🫢

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Ray Bob's avatar

You would be wise to listen to her

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LJ's avatar

🤣😂

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LMWC's avatar

😂

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Vicki's avatar

You can get ivermectin without a prescription if you don't mind horse gel/paste from jeffers.com. 1 click on the dispenser per 50 lbs wt (average up rather than down). Take it with honey and it will be fine ....once a day for 5 days. It will cut the duration of your suffering. My chiropractor/functional medicine dr told me about it and our whole family has been using it whenever we get anything viral. Definitely works if you start in immediately.

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pondering in PA's avatar

There is no need to take the horse paste. Buy the sterile injectable liquid which, though also for horses, meets higher standards. They give this stuff to million dollar race horses. Squirt the appropriate amount into an ounce or two of water and swill it down. You need to do a little research based on your body weight and the concentration of solution to get the correct dosage. It's not expensive at tractor supply and other places.

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Peace's avatar

How's the tast of theijectable liquid iver?

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PamelaZelie's avatar

I have put it in juice and downed it quickly. It’s okay.

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Mike's avatar

2ndsmartestguyintheworld@substack.com. Great resource for ivermectin in 12mg tabs

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shibumi's avatar

I've purchased the tabs via 2nd smartest guy. It's the "easy button."

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Janet's avatar

Same here. No prescription. Some easy sources cost insane $ per tablet. So when it becomes more available OTC be prepared for that surprise. They will want to cash in on it.

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CraigN's avatar

Just got a discount code from them for 20% off.

MAHA20

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Second year in a row birds took all my elderberries. Two years ago they left me some and I made both syrup (delicious) and cordial (not delicious).

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

Since I am lame at growing things, I order the berry kit (big tea bag) from The Elderberry Company. Love it.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

It makes a beautiful shrub. Lately I have done better getting the blossoms—birds aren’t interested at that stage, of course—and making elderflower champagne (hardly more than a soft drink).

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Also, black seed oil. As they say, “It cures everything but death.”

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

Ah yes, i think that was included in the first protocol from my doc when I had the crud in Dec 2020 before we knew about ivermectin.

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LJ's avatar

What was the dosing?

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

I’m sorry I don’t remember. My doc used a protocol similar to the frontline docs if I remember correctly.

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Gargle with it (don't swallow) a few times at the onset of viral infections.

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

That is when I started putting together my “Just in case Box.” It now connects Ivermectin, Scope mouthwash, Nattokinase, and for a while, a particular antacid that they originally thought would help.

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rolandttg's avatar

no on the Scope. cancer books don't like commercial mouthwash. Better to make your own.

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Pierre Kory began recommending it with several other brands because they contained an anti-viral ingredient. You only need to use it a few times at the beginning of a viral infection when it's causing a sore throat. Dr. La Guardia of The Underground Medicine Substack also recommends it.

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LJ's avatar

Long-winded advice follows ignore if ya’ll know more than I do about herbal healing:

Also Use Quercetin and Black

cumin seed oil (not cumin, this is Black Cumin Seed Oil, Zhou brand is good) if you can’t get ivermectin. I am unjabbed , had covid x 9-10 days (2 mos ago), first 2 days only of respiratory infection symptoms (head congested mainly) and intense fatigue and joint pain, the intense fatigue and joint pain lasted about 6-8 extra days but not bad after about 4 days. In other words, it was a nothing burger except the intense 2-day fatigue at the beginning.

Please check FLCCC (sorry they changed their name to IMA I think but I think you can still link from FLCCC), website for dosing on Black Cumin Seed oil and a possible, unknown, interaction with ivermectin (they had posted an interaction early in the scamdemic that it might not be good to take ivermectin together with one of these: Quercetin or Black Cumin seed, I can’t remember which and now cannot find this on their site so maybe it wasn’t a real interaction concern??)

I am not a doctor, risky to take my advice but it did work for me personally. I also take 80 other things (all natural except occasional Benadryl) that might have controlled the inflammation but I attribute my quick healing to these above plus:

CongaPlex from Standard Process. (2 every 4 hrs I think is the dosing on CongaPlex).

My other weapon is Zyflamend, very expensive. For those that can’t afford: try brewing a tea out of green tea, fresh turmeric, fresh ginger, fresh holy basil, fresh oregano, fresh rosemary, and eat raw garlic. If you are really poor, ground organic turmeric isn’t too expensive from Natural Grocers and fresh ginger root is very cheap almost anywhere.

Many naturopaths and functional med doctors also say a very 3 day short course of 50,000 to 100,000 IU’s Vitamin D is helpful but you can get toxicity on Vitamin D if you carry that to extremes, I.e if you do it longer. Again, I am not a doctor. My guess is the 50k vs 100k would be based on body weight and I would NEVER try that on a kid without an MD supervising for toxicity.

My 90 plus year old father did not fare well with Covid (sadly I gave it to him) and so everyone is individual. BUT he did not take as much Zyflamend nor as much Black Cumin seed as

Myself. We were able, sadly took awhile, to get Ivermectin for him and that helped immensely. But I think Covid damaged his lungs.

Ya’ll feel free to give ME advice on his lungs. Other than nebulized glutathione ( I do not know where to obtain), i am not certain how to heal his lungs. We will be consulting soon with naturopath about this.

Sorry for my long-winded reply.

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Foundry Girl's avatar

The glutathione that Dr Mercola (I think it was Dr. Mercola) recommended several years ago for nebulization was TheraNaturals reduced L-Glutathione plus. Get it from TheraNaturals.com. I have not had the need for this but took copious notes just in case. I believe you may need to mix in a little saline which you can get in premeasured plastic vials from Amazon. As I recall another Doc I was following at the time also said it was the only one to use for nebulizing. Same disclaimer as everyone else…not a medical professional, just a freaked out woman with a complete lack of trust in the medical establishment.

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DS's avatar
Sep 20Edited

Also check the ingredients label to see if they have put in bio-engineered products in it.

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IsItJustMe's avatar

Don't forget the quercetin

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

Ah yes, I started taking something else that also had quercetin so I forgot about it. Now I will have to go see what that was. 😌

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MarshaLouise's avatar

You need K2 with that D3, and at least 10K IUs of D3.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Janice, where do you get elderberry syrup? Is it also in capsule form? I agree with all the other meds…you can get Tumeric from the website of Dr.Zelenko as well as Pure Encapsulations I just ordered 400 Ivermectin from India…will have to wait for that!

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Actually if its covid elderberry makes it worse. read this when my husband had it.

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Margot Wooster's avatar

So sorry you’re not feeling well, Josh. I just lifted you up to the Lord in prayer for healing. Read some Bible and good spiritual books, and feel better soon!

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Uncle Juan's avatar

Take your ivermectin!!

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Carol M.'s avatar

If you can, get HCQ and zinc30mg☕️🍪

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

Nebulizing food grade H2o2, diluted with colloidal silver, 2 drops of iodine and 2 drops of DMSO really helped me.

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Linda's avatar

Dr. Bernstein's Food Grade HP lung infection protocol improved with drops of DMSO.

https://takecontrol.substack.com/p/how-to-nebulize-hydrogen-peroxide

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Strong move!

FYI, anyone with COPD could really benefit from your mix too!

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Juju's avatar
Sep 20Edited

All great advice here. I just recovered from a 15 day bout. I only had it once before back in April of 2022 and I wasn’t fully recovered then until day 14. Both times I followed the advice here by taking a proper treatment dose of Ivermectin (.5mg per kg, so that was 36 mg a day for me) but my clueless doctor only prescribed 3mg a day for 7 days 🙄🙄 - once I got the correct dosing my severe sore throat and fever disappeared in a couple hours and never returned. I also took HCQ with 75mg of extra zinc, and Azithromyacin, and I already regularly was taking as a daily norm my NAC, Vitamin D3 with K2, quercetin, and CO Q-10.

I should note that this second bout last month was difficult and I had to add 100mg Doxycycline/2x day to my daily regimen after about day 10 and once I did that things started to turn a corner. If I ever get this again I will add that sooner. It’s in the Zelenko protocol to take along with Azithromycin when you’re older than 50-60 or have high risk conditions and are facing a severe level of symptoms.

Without this regimen I may have been sick a lot longer, and I know for certain that my symptoms were less severe both times after starting it.

The key to IVM is to start the treatment dose (the higher dose you take when full blown symptoms are present) the first day you have them. It’s ok to take therapeutic/maintenance dosing when you start to think you’re getting sick, but for me the first day I have a sore throat or a fever or any other significant symptom I up it to treatment level and both times when I did that it lowered the severity of all my symptoms. It doesn’t guarantee you will recover faster, and you will still feel lousy, but it makes it MUCH easier to get through it. Twice I’ve experienced the difference before starting it and after. With that virus lessening the severity really matters. (EDIT: I should say “flu” not virus but am using the vernacular we’ve been accustomed to)

Good luck to you!

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Richard Whitney's avatar

I'm surprised you got it twice. I assumed that having it in Feb. 2022 made us immune. I thought that only people who took the shots got it more than once. They must have released a new strain different enough to cause disease again.

We didn't take anything for it. We only knew it was covid because my daughter and son-in-law got it the same day (we had all been together) and he tested for it, and it was positive.

It was pretty mild and only lasted 3 days, but I thought we were safe now.

Mrs. RW

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Juju's avatar

I WAS vaccinated. I got the first month of shots (28 days apart) in April 2021. And yeah, my son who wasn’t vaccinated recovered the first time in 3 days, and never caught it the second time I did. I do think the vaccine makes us more susceptible.

I have also been doing a spike protein detox for the past six months so was surprised I got it so bad again. I’ll remain vigilant in trying everything I can to rid my body of what they put into it.

(Before the scolders scold me and turn this into “well it’s your fault for foolishly accepting the vaccine” convo, know I was unplugged for several years due to family tragedy as well as a needed life saving surgery, so I had NO clue what was going on between 2019 and 2021. I didn’t see a single news program or read a single article during those years - I had no bandwidth left. I was completely oblivious that there was any conflict or concerns. I was following the advice of doctors I was under the care of. I wasn’t given informed consent but rather lied to. I became aware and involved once again in 2022, coincidentally because of discovering the incompetence and lies by the specialists treating my condition at that time. Had I not taken matters into my own hands I wouldn’t have gotten the surgery I needed the way I needed it. So I discovered how compromised our medical institutions were through that situation, and it was a very short walk to understanding what happened during Covid. But not before our youngest son was threatened by his university into getting the first booster. Soon after I became involved and prevented him from getting anymore for ANY reason and prepared documentation for exceptions as well as notarized care instructions for each of us should any of us need hospitalization for any reason in the future. I’m just suffering the consequences of life factors interfering with my ability to get the information I needed at that time back then.)

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Loretta's avatar

I suspect I've had it twice.

No vaxx

I think it morphs enough to make this possible.

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C. Wilson's avatar

It's going around where I live in Florida. Has been for a few months. We started feeling "iffy"- scientific term- and got on Ivermectin. Poof. Gone.

I gifted good sore throat meds and zinc lozenges (Publix has them) to friends who got it. I do NOT give our prescription meds to anyone. Never, nope, sorry you were to stupid to listen to me 3 years ago.

It's a cold. We now wait for the, sorry (not sorry) to say this, snowbirds to flock down and bring their lousy disease du jour with them.

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Gail W's avatar

We're in N.FL so I am glad to have this reminder to stay up to date w/ my VITAMIN D!!

Also have ivermectin on hand in case.

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STH's avatar
Sep 20Edited

Black seed oil (1tsp 4-5xday) helped me more than anything when I had covid in 21’

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Kenneth N. Myers's avatar

Here is an outstanding reference that we have used: https://imahealth.org/protocol/i-care-early-covid-treatment/

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Susan Seas's avatar

We recently moved my Mom into a Senior living community. Week 4 - Covid lockdown :/ not actually that but closed the dinning room and canceled all activities. 🤦🏼‍♀️ Just when she was getting active. Hope you feel better soon!

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Unapologetically Me's avatar

Where is this lockdown occurring?

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Susan Seas's avatar

Montana 😕 it’s one of our big steps to escape this blue ____

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Gail W's avatar

Ivermectin. Vitamin D3. Hydrate. This too shall pass. I've had covid multiple times. No test needed. Flu+intractable headache for multiple days+taste shifts, which persist to this day, unfortunately. 🫤

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

Suggest you investigate (but maybe you already have?) the combination of D3 + K2. K2 provides a mechanism for D3 to enter cells. If you only take D3, much, but not all just the bulk, of what is absorbed through the gut remains circulating in the bloodstream, never getting to cells. Also, cheaper products no son buenos. Also, as you probably already know, sunshine! is the best for natural production of vit D☀️🌞 Have a lovely weekend!

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Abiding Dude's avatar

And do NOT leave out the magnesium! VERY important if taking D3 and K2, both of which are great...

I'd add boron to the mix too.

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Silent scorn's avatar

This combo was recommended to me by an acupuncturist/natureopath.

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

Why am I not surprised at this source? Good on you!

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Politico Phil's avatar

Sounds like the flu (of which I've had many in my 74 years). Wonder why?

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MaryAnn's avatar

Yes Pol Phil—I recently noticed the flu shot is being mischaracterized as a vaccine, just as is the ‘vid shot. Words matter! 🧐

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Fred's avatar

Just spreading the word to forward to F&F who still believe:

“A team of U.S. federal government researchers is warning of a massively elevated risk of stroke among people who have received “vaccines” for the flu and Covid within close proximity.”

https://prd-tsn-main-api.s3.amazonaws.com/article/8e27368f-c320-4d8a-91af-851c9b701d06.pdf

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MaryAnn's avatar

Just had a friend post on Fb he got the combined flu/vid jab with a heart bandaid over the jab spot. 😖

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

And I'll be praying for your healing. As in, first plea just made.

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CMCM's avatar

I never got the shots, nor did those I was around such as adult children and spouses, etc. My daughter was working as a nurse and she got covid and recovered quite fine, never got it again and was assigned to the covid ward as a result. My son got it at college in fall of 2019, said he was pretty sick, but had no after effects. I never knowingly had covid, but this last February when I was getting my yearly blood tests I asked my doctor if I could get a covid antibody test just for the heck of it. So I got the test, and to my surprise it came back positive. I could hardly believe it because in the last 5 years I haven't been sick. I had had a sniffly type mild cold in about November before the test, and my doctor said it likely was from that rather than any kind of residual antibodies from the several years past. I'm so glad I refused those stupid jabs!

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CMCM's avatar

Another note....my daughter in law delivered her son on July 5, 2021. The next day she was diagnosed with covid. The baby didn't get it, and she was only mildly sick.

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Garry Blankenship's avatar

Agree with all the organic advice, but I would add ivermectin. I am thankfully mRNA unvaccinated and contracted COVID once in 2019 and a second time 2023/24. Both very typical influenza experiences in time and discomfort. My "vaccinated" friends average about twice as many "flus", as my history.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

Or you could have a cold/flu.

As far as super salty...which also is a symptom of a cold/flu. But if it continues to persist, I would recommend finding a doctor. My mom, who died of cancer, had an issue with everything tasting super salty. So if it continues far too long, get it looked at?

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But having the same spirit of faith, according to what is written, “I believed, therefore I spoke,” we also believe, therefore we also speak, knowing that He who raised the Lord Jesus will raise us also with Jesus and will present us with you. For all things are for your sakes, so that the grace which is spreading to more and more people may cause the giving of thanks to abound to the glory of God.

— 2 Corinthians 4:13-15 NAS95

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I was doing some surfing on the WWW one Sunday and came upon a wonderful group of INDONESIAN young people singing joyful anthems to our Creator God--outdoors--in the splendid, lush forestry of southeast Asia. I did some further checking online and found that southeast Asia is having a Holy Spirit revival resulting in MANY THOUSANDS of young people turning to faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. Sure bolstered my spirit and just reaffirmed what Scripture says about the "movement of the Holy Spirit"...it is mystical, powerful and cannot be 'controlled' by human interference.

And all His children cried, AMEN!!!

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Graphite's avatar

Amen! Praise the Lord 🙏

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Bill Hammon's avatar

Amen!

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

Today’s Bible reading: Brethren, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of his might. Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we are not contending against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world rulers of this present darkness, against the spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore take the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand, therefore, having girded your loins with truth, and having put on the breastplate of righteousness, and having shod your feet with the equipment of the gospel of peace; besides all these, taking the shield of faith, with which you can quench all the flaming darts of the evil one. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. St. Paul’s Letter to the Ephesians 6:10-17

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Silent scorn's avatar

So appropriate and fitting for these times! 💖🙏

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Jacquijacq's avatar

Donning the armor of God says it all!!!

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Lori's avatar

Connie, how can spiritual hosts of wickedness be in heavenly places? Is this passage talking about Earth being a heavenly place?

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Carlos's avatar

Satan was an Archangel and still have access to heaven as the accuser…

He took 200 angels and started a war in heaven against the almighty.

You, ….and I are the ponds and the price.

Read your Bible. Don’t trust on the preacher.

The book of Revelation is hardly ever preached about it.

Just read chapter one, you’ll understand.

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Lori's avatar

Hi Carlos, I have never seen in the Bible that Satan can go visit Heaven when he wants and I do read the Bible. He started his crap in Heaven and then left.

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Tom's avatar

Read in the Book of Job, satan was in front of the assembly, and in front of God, and God asked him where he had been. He said that he had been walking to and fro on the earth.

He can still be summoned to report to God, but he doesn't dwell in God's presence.

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Lori's avatar
Sep 20Edited

Yes, I read Job twice bc I could not imagine God entering into an agreement with Satan to have at it with dear Job. It pissed me off quite frankly bc God already knew that Job would remain faithful to Him. And when God instructed Abraham to kill Isaac it cut me to the quick. God already knew Abraham would be faithful. I have let God know that both of these incidents are very alarming, brutal and unimaginable. My heart aches for Job and Abraham. And why God would ever want to summon or talk to Satan is beyond me.

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

I believe it means in the spiritual realm. Angels and demons battling.

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Lori's avatar

But where is the Spiritual realm Janice? Does that mean they are allowed in Heaven to battle or does that mean here on earth they are battling or someplace else? I can't fathom God letting demons anywhere near or in Heaven since they made the decision to leave in the first place.

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Concerned mom's avatar

Spiritual realm is all around us, unseen. They can also be in the atmosphere above us...The book of Daniel mentions an angel sent to him who said that the prince of Persia (spiritual being) prevented the angel from getting to Daniel sooner. Michael was sent to help him. The angel further tells Daniel that when he returns to the fight, the prince of Greece will come. Daniel 10:12-21

So we see from this, that evil ( spiritual powers, principalities, rulers) are assigned to regions and even countries... This is why having our armor on is SO important!

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Lori's avatar

Yes, I finished Daniel about one week ago. Did not understand some of it. Prince of Persia and Greece, are they reincarnations from their forsaken earthly life, were they there from the beginning of time? And why use such descripters if these are spiritual beings? I am happy for you that you understand all this but this is such a struggle for some including me. Why can't words be said plainly like that's a demon and that is God's Angel. Thanks for trying to help!

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Ramón Torres's avatar

According to 2 Corinthians 12:2 there more than one level of heavenly places

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Lori's avatar

Hi Ramon, but that does not answer my question:{

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Ramón Torres's avatar

Hi Lori, my understanding is yes, demonic activity comes from second heaven and Earth is first level.

Your first question I think is an invitation from Holy Spirit to go deeper on a beautiful journey. There you will get the receipts. : )

““The secret things belong to the Lord our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our sons forever, that we may observe all the words of this law.”

‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭29‬:‭29‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

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Lori's avatar

Thank you Ramon. I have not heard of a second Heaven. I wonder who occupies that space? Too much mystery, not enough explanation from our Maker. He sure is an enigma. I appreciate you taking the time to answer.

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Tom's avatar

It refers to other planes of existence.

Imagine drawing the earth, with stick figures living upon it, and a moon and stars and what not.

Then take a different sheet of paper, and draw Sheol, or the grave.

Then take another sheet of paper and draw the Abyss.

Then take another sheet of paper and draw the Second Heaven.

Then stack all the sheets of paper. Perhaps the room your standing in with the stack of paper is the Third Heaven.

God the Father is outside of all this creation. Jesus is God within it.

The sheets of paper that are not the earth that we inhabit, are heavenly places. Heavenly doesn't necessarily mean "good," it means not-earth.

One of these is the heavenly place from which the enemy is working.

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Lori's avatar

Thanks Tom. I never knew there was a 2nd and 3rd Heaven. Its the language that is confusing as Heaven or heavenly means good to me and all else bad or negligible. How can God the Father be outside all those levels if He is omnipresent? And He made all of them to begin with bc he created everything. Ugh:{ I really appreciate you trying to break this down. Some of it makes sense and some leaves me with more confusion and ?s. Heavy sigh.

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Concerned mom's avatar

Heavenly places also means atmosphere and bc they're spiritual, we do not see them...

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Lori's avatar

Thank you. I think being in a different "atmosphere" makes some sense. Men and women in the OT and NT have seen and interacted with Angels so some have seen them but here on earth and perhaps not in the atmosphere you talk about. With NDEs, some have come back and said they encountered Angels or heard what they believe was God's voice explaining they need to return to their bodies. Perhaps that is an atmosphere or heavenly place. I think it is.

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Concerned mom's avatar

I believe Paul talks about having been to the 3rd heaven... my understanding is that our immediate atmosphere constitutes the first heaven, our outer atmosphere, the 2nd heaven and Heaven is what Paul called the 3rd Heaven or Paradise 2Corinthians 12:2-4

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Lori's avatar

Well Paul seems confused too. Is the guy alive or dead and only God knows yet he knows him for 14 years. And if the guy is alive why would he be in 3rd Heaven (the real one)? Now I know how the disciples must have felt when Jesus spoke and they did not understand. Heavy subject matter.

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john's avatar

John 8:32  And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.

The good Lord shines light on things, like that below, so that we can spread the truth in spite of all the "official" lies. This Christian was killed because he would not condone genocide.

https://x.com/The1PDP/status/1968783429928919343

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MBJ's avatar
Sep 20Edited

Sure looks like the guy was pointing a gun, but how do you square Charlie getting hit on the front left, by a shooter standing behind and to the right?

(Edited to add: I hate it when the cops “get their man” within a day or two and announce that’s all folks!- I doubt it- but this video also leaves plenty of unanswered questions- I’d like to hear back again two weeks or a month or two)

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john's avatar

What you see is an exit wound, entrance wound is on shooter side of head/neck. This is explained further here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjL-jfCuwQY

Hand gun was likely air-powered (since there was no muzzle flash) and made to look like something else (likely by a state sponsor).

I too dislike all the unanswered questions raised by video, and it is my belief is that God, in this video, is simply telling us we must dig deeper to find truth, and that the govt can't be trusted to do this objectively/correctly for us.

Let's pray that the independent investigative journalists get back to us with some answers as you suggest, not everyone has the courage to face truth. "If we can face it, God can fix it" per a pastor of Catherine Austin Fitts.

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MBJ's avatar

An exit wound, of course. From the secular heretic Substack.

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Judy Ogden's avatar

Btw, miraculously there was no exit wound, according to Charlie’s photographer who was present…🙏

https://x.com/AndrewKolvet/status/1969551427648569633?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

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Lori's avatar

If this video is for real, it is terrifying.

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john's avatar

Although not expert validation, there are no signs of mischief when video is viewed at much slower speed. Also, hand gun was likely air-powered (since there was no muzzle flash) and made to look like something else (likely by a state sponsor).

Charlie Kirk was beginning to notice, and spread the word to young people, that some Zionist actions went against Jesus' teachings. So they had to silence this no-compromise Christian so that TPUSA would not start more openly condemning some Zionist actions.

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Lori's avatar
Sep 20Edited

Hopefully one day will find out who is really responsible for the plan. Bottom line is we lost a fellow Christian who tried to reach across the abyss to the other side for civil discourse. This is a profound loss indeed.

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john's avatar

A profound loss indeed and also, I think, a wake-up call to America to return to God, ask for His forgiveness, and pray for His help to heal our nation.

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Lori's avatar

good luck with that and the libbies. don't hold your breath.

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Tom's avatar

All motives aside, it seems that one frame showed a puff of smoke in the upper left (from the observer's viewpoint) of the object held in the hands of the man in the white T-shirt.

That being said, with AI being what it is, pray for discernment, humble yourself, and don't believe everything you are shown. And don't ascribe a motive without much prayer and reference to the Word.

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john's avatar

Thank you, this sinner humbly prays for discernment and God's help in returning our nation to Him.

Charlie shared concerns for his safety with a few friends after he took a stand against genocide, which I expect was the result of "much prayer and reference to the Word" given his solid Christian character.

All that said, my belief is that God, in this video, is simply telling us we must dig deeper to find truth.

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Concerned mom's avatar

John, is this footage being reviewed by the FBI? Since so many assert that they "have their man" and I, along with many others are not fully convinced...wondering what's coming next...

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john's avatar

Expect the FBI will never objectively look at this footage and other evidence that challenges their weakly-supported narratives, which appear to be part of a massive cover-up (eg, like with 9/11, Oklahoma City, etc).

Standing up for Jesus, no matter what, like Charlie Kirk did is what we all need to do. RFK Jr told Charlie there are things worse than death; for example, having our children live in slavery, because we did not stand up for Jesus.

We all need to pray that revival comes to America soon, sincere widespread prayer is very powerful.

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Concerned mom's avatar

By the looks of Sunday's memorial service and the thousands of posts coming from all over the world, it appears Charlie's death might be the catalyst for the revival we have been praying for, not only in America but world-wide....

What would Charlie have said to this???

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john's avatar

Agree, and expect Charlie would be telling truth to everyone -- it was God that did it, and he just helped us all face truth about Jesus, our society's issues, etc.

I like the way Catherine Austin Fitts' pastor put it about having the courage to face truth, like Charlie did -- "If we can face it, God can fix it".

Like many others, I was fooled into blindly supporting Israel's causes, but this Bible-based documentary changed that from being blind -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN5lvSoICOI

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Concerned mom's avatar

John, here's where we part and I say so long...

I did try to watch your "Bible-based documentary" and got to about minute 40, but I could not stomach any more of this - Bible Twisting, Half truths and completely incorrect interpreting of Scriptural text, Replacement Theology nonsense....

WHO THE HECK is this person who made this garbage that you would believe and swallow it hook, line and sinker??? What are his credentials cuz what I read of his "testimony" & "statement of faith" leaves much to be desired. He is no historian or theologian, no David Jeremiah or John Walvoord, and by his own accounts, someone who has been easily conned, thus no evidence of Godly discernment...

this person threw together some historical facts that anyone with a computer can Google... a few biblical facts that anyone who has read the OT can assert (Abraham was not a Jew... well God called him out of Ur of the Chaldeans - present day Iraq)

Isaac was not an Israelite... no kidding Sherlock...

But to say that Hitler was actually trying to send the Jews back to Israel??? perhaps in small shoe boxes...

This docu-garbage is so full of inaccuracies that I'd have to stop the video every few minutes to list them all

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bebevan's avatar

Beautiful Janice!

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Jeff C's avatar

I wrote on here about ten days ago how my son's immunization religious exception was denied by a major University of California campus. Good news! The university reversed themselves and approved his exception.

Big shout out to the Siri and Glimstad LLP (Aaron Siri's firm) who gave us pro bono assistance in fighting this. Also thanks to ICAN who put us in touch with Siri and Glimstad.

Unsurprisingly this whole process is designed to make the request fail. The request form from the university only leaves lines for about four sentences to answer two questions about the nature of the religious beliefs. This lulled us into a sense of complacency regarding the detail required (intentionally I believe). The attorney advised us not to go nuclear (yet) but that the only way she's seen the request be accepted is with a 4-8 page letter going through one's beliefs in detail.

We resubmitted the form with an accompanying six page letter that explained the nature of Christianity and the importance of scripture, my son's conversion story, the importance of individual accountability, numerous Bible passages on the body being an temple of the Holy Spirit (with personal interpretations), and a discussion of how my son puts those beliefs in practice every day in his life. The approval took about eight days compared to the initial denial which was only three days. They really don't want people to get these.

Thanks again to Siri and Glimstad as I was ready to start threatening lawsuits. The lawyers informed me there may be a time for that but first we need to make the request ironclad in regard to his sincerity. We did that and it worked!

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Tonya's avatar

It's so wrong, though, for the government to presume to examine the sincerity of anyone's religious beliefs. Especially when the government is filled with not only secular, but anti-Christian officials.

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Jeff C's avatar

Agreed. And it's not even "the government" but a bunch of flunkies drunk on power. True believers in the vaccine cause. The very way the form was set up to discourage lengthy responses shows that.

But ultimately our goal was to get the exception, not to destroy the system. It's a top-tier university with a world-renowned engineering program. My son worked very hard to get admitted in the first place, and while I might have been willing to spend a couple years bringing down the system, that's not what he signed up for.

We look at it this way, his beliefs are sincere and he got to write about them to a bunch of people who probably have nit seen the inside of a church in years (if ever). Maybe God will use it to plant a seed.

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Willy-nilly's avatar

The fact that you have to write an essay and explain your beliefs is insane. "I decline for religious reasons or any reasons" should be enough. What do childhood vaccines have to do with 18year olds, at this point? Obviously, you got to adult age somehow and everybody around you has been fine all these years.

They require you be immunized when you apply for green card. It's part of the paperwork. But you can be in the country for years without anybody asking for vaccines status as an immigrant, but once you apply for green card is a different story. Also, city colleges never asked for proof of vaccinations when I attended.

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Jeff C's avatar

There's the world as we'd like it to be and the world as it is.

The law on this is very clear that religious beliefs must be "sincerely held". This stems from the First Amendment and the Civil Rights Act of 1964. So their reasoning is that if someone isn't willing to explain their beliefs in detail then they likely aren't sincere. We may not like it but that's how things work.

Now being "sincere" is not the same thing as being logical. They cannot apply logic tests, use scientific debunking, or attempt to find contradictions in one's religious beliefs. But what they can do is challenge sincerity, the case law is pretty clear on this. And if one is not willing to actively profess their faith in Christ, then how sincere are they really? A sincere Christian should be eager to explain their beliefs to a non-believer.

People rage against stuff outside their control (it isn't fair!) rather than taking the time to understand the law and the reason these exceptions exist in the first place. And frankly, that's why they lose.

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MaryAnn's avatar

Excellent and insightful response. I applaud you and your son getting around these gatekeepers. Best of luck in his education process 🙏🏻

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Wow. Thank you so much! We may be up against this soon!! We’re also in Cali.

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Jeff C's avatar

Thanks and God bless.

The Cal State University system grant an automatic philosophical objection, my older son's request was approved without any trouble.

The University of California system on the the other hand, didn't accept any religious exceptions until forced to via a legal settlement last July with ICAN. Even now they only approve them begrudgingly (as we found out).

It's surprising to me that the two state-run university systems could be so diametrically opposite on this issue but it is what it is.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Remember the UC system is where the west coast “intellectual” elites find their home.

My friends who are heavily (and multi-generationally) involved in UCB are still avid vaxxers.

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Jeff C's avatar

The UC system is the more prestigious of the two (and one of the top systems in the world) so it wouldn't at all surprise me if it was specifically lobbied by pharma to implement vax mandates.

Plus it's a research-heavy institution (unlike the Cal State system) and has lots of ties to pharma. Staking out their turf in the elite system so to speak. The UC mandates weren't implemented until 2017 from what I've found online.

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A.J.'s avatar

UC system was supposed to be a publicly funded aggie/mechanical school, funded mostly with federal land sales and land lease income (mostly in the Calif Central Valley) plus State taxpayer dollars. But, its first Sacramento-appointed leaders quickly morphed in the 1860s with delusions of grandeur of entry into an aristocratic elite global society, by as they call themselves, "Regents," with plenty of enabling Ivory Tower courtiers. All the Cal Regents & Courtiers wanted by the 1860s was to complete socially and academically with the top German and English universities and their royal patrons. Thus, Cal-Berkeley become essentially the first Californian limo-liberal tribe using other's money as wanna-be perpetual elites. And, by the 1930s have depended in a continual flood of federal military cash.

Note, the disgraced former U Michigan president Santa Ono, the former U British Columbia head (where he was such a fan of 15 Minute S.M.A.R.T., "S"for surveillance) cities and endless jab passports, who was recently shot down as a clueless-wokie to head U Florida, just pooped up as the new head of Larry Ellison's eponymous Institution headquartered in Oxford with satellite campuses coast-to-coast in the USA. Ellison, Mr. Ex-CIA, who built the mother of all data server companies in Redwood City just across San Francisco Bay from Cal.

Stanford Education Land Trust

Carnegie Institution

Rockefeller Institution

Ellison Institution

What could go wrong with all of those entities set up initially to shield well-protected Robber Baron's profits?

How soon should we expect to see a Bezos Institution to shield his profits from data storage and human-buying-patterns data mining? Such nice data "storage" contracts he got from the Pentagon.

Read Tony Platt's new book "The Scandal of Cal" for more details on how a simple A&M university morphed into a cheap whore for big government and big biz tidal waves of cash.

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Willy-nilly's avatar

So no paperwork required for "system grant an automatic philosophical objection"?

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Probably a simply box to check.

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Concerned mom's avatar

We also went through this several times, as my children sought religious exemptions at work. Thankfully, Pastor Jack still has the letter we've used this many times on his website at Calvarycch.org towards the bottom of the initial page, labeled Vaccine exemption form. We copied, and pasted the appropriate parts to answer the questions that the employers were asking. Peggy Hill from the Healthy American suggests that you stay short and on topic and don't go off script. If you're requesting religious exemption, don't talk about political beliefs, etc... So that's what we did, and my children got their exemptions as recently as a couple of months ago. (I'm shocked the hospitals are still requiring them here in CA!)

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Jeff C's avatar

We used Pastor Jack's letter as the outline for his initial submission that was rejected. We are long time Calvary Chapel people and have been to his church.

As the lawyers explained to me, the UC system wants to deny these and will look for any excuse to do so. Their premise for denial is that it's not evident the belief is "sincere". The CRA of 1964 and the case law all use the word sincere. They don't tell you this, but the student must demonstrate sincerity by showing a consistent pattern of behavior that they really do walk the walk.

In fact, it looks to me like they try to trick people into not doing this by only allowing space for a few sentences on the form. I suspect they do this, then deny it as insufficient evidence of sincerity, and figure people will give up after that. The lawyer told us to immediately file an amended submission with the detailed response. I was skeptical, but to my surprise they accepted if without question for review.

I see some people on here talking about it's an "outrage" that the government has to approve their religious beliefs. But that's not what happened at all. I'm 100% sure that no one on the exception board agreed with my son's beliefs as he pretty much said that God's creation is perfect and it's only the hubris of man that makes us think we can improve it. But there was no doubt about his sincerity as he walked them though how he has lived his life.

Again it boils down to knowing the law, why the exception exists in the first place, and how the game is played. Fortunately my son is very sincere in his religious beliefs so the letter was easy to write. A lot of people just huff and puff though which is why it doesn't work out for them.

God bless and good to read Pastor Jack's letter worked for you. His scripture references were excellent, and we expanded upon them in the letter.

Edit: BTW, I completely agree don't talk about political beliefs, safety studies, vaccine injury or any of that stuff. When it comes to a religious exception that stuff is not only irrelevant, but it can be used to demonstrate insincerity (i.e. it's not truly a *religious* objection but something else). That's what I mean about knowing the law.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

That’s great! ❤️❤️❤️

I really like her!

Are you in the OC?

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Sharon's avatar

I’m in OC as well and so far my granddaughters Christian school has looked the other way regarding vaccines - a true blessing!

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Concerned mom's avatar

yes... been here almost 20 yrs. now

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Tonya's avatar

Like Paul being brought before Agrippa and Felix and Festus.

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Jeff C's avatar

Wow, we just went over this at church a few weeks ago and the comparison never even dawned on me. Great point!

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Michael Framson's avatar

Jeff, You have a very positive, healthy attitude and nice to read. Thank you.

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Jeff C's avatar

All glory to God, my brother.

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Freedom Fox's avatar

Yep. Playing against a dealer and his stacked deck. Proving sincerity of religious beliefs to Atheists who've rejected the existence of God.

Understand that to *them* the more sincere we are about believing in a fairy tale is proving to *them* how delusional and stupid *they* think we are. If thought sufficiently delusional and stupid they may take pity on us.

May the Lord take pity on their broken souls.

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Lynne Morris's avatar

I look at the atheist thing differently. I think that if you are devoid of faith you cannot possibly grasp the implications thereof. It is similar to a dentist trying to lecture about quantum physics.

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Freedom Fox's avatar

I think what you're saying is the same thing. Different analogies.

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Chloe Zapata's avatar

But why should a person need to have a religious reason not to have poison forced on them in the first place.

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MM's avatar

I completely agree with you; consent is a requirement for all medical procedures and yet you cannot consent under duress. But for some reason, when it comes to this issue, rules and ethics no longer apply.

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Tonya's avatar

I agree that no one should need an exemption because mandates should not exist.

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Graphite's avatar

My body, my choice! Anyone? 🧐

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Roger Beal's avatar

It's not just wrong, it is illegal (at the federal level at least). Where can we review the standards the authorities use to guide their decisions? Answer: Nowhere.

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Ingrid's avatar

The government can’t…Supreme Court has already thoroughly established that in the past. It was a private (or perhaps state) institution…though with the amount of federal funding these universities receive I don’t understand how they can call themselves private…but I believe that is where states rights become involved… I personally don’t believe ANYONE should be forced to take ANY medical/psychological “care”…be very careful…THINK ABOUT IT!!! It’s a VERY slippery slope!!!! The implications are TREMENDOUS!!!!! Unfortunately, we’ve already crossed the line…AND in less than 100 years after the holocaust…So much for never forgetting.

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MM's avatar

I am going to have to go through this with immigration (I’m Canadian, married my wonderful American husband two years ago) so your son’s story helps to steal my resolve. Thank you for sharing.

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Susan Seas's avatar

Well good, but infuriating. Only Jesus gets to judge my belief.

My husband was given the exception UNTIL they had to go back into building. THEN he was a risk to others and lost his job. 🙄

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Jeff S's avatar

Wow. Hope all is better now.

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Susan Seas's avatar

As of Tuesday things are returning to normal but some activities are canceled due to people’s fear of leaving their rooms 😞 Luckily my Mom isn’t.

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Lori's avatar

because of what they put you and your son through, screw their acceptance of the exemption. I would not set foot on that POS californication so called university and certainly would not give them a dime knowing that they are putting people of faith through this. it is vile and malevolent.

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Beckadee's avatar

That is awesome Jeff!

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RunningLogic's avatar

So glad to hear this good news!! Thanks for the update! Siri and Glimstad have truly been a godsend to so many people who have dealt with these mandates!

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Politico Phil's avatar

The psyops ain't over.

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Elizabeth G's avatar

Hi Jeff - first, congratulations!! And if you haven’t talked to a voice for choice advocacy yet, please do so they can learn from your win and share it with other families (like me!). Aaron Siri is amazing!

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Graphite's avatar

That is a long way from 'informed consent'! 🧐

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Lorita's avatar

Love it, thank you Lord!

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CherylBray's avatar

Well done!

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Steve Stevens's avatar

Congratulations!

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Robin's avatar

Good morning, C&C family! Asking for prayers as my daughter is looking for employment. She recently completed her PhD in Biomathematics. The job market to tough! Open to hearing ideas. Blessings to you all! Hug often, say I love you everyday, and sprinkle grace throughout your day!

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Juju's avatar

I will add that to my daily C&C family prayers. You all prayed for my son when he was facing this same situation, and I have prayed in return each day for those of you who have let us know you were facing it too. I actually started a journal to keep track of prayers for others, something I’ve never done before. Your daughter was added just now.

I know for my son he had to move away from applying solely to the big name popular companies and it was a smaller specialized company that offered him a job. Yeah he settled for a lower starting salary than his masters degree commands, but thankfully we are not a wealthy family so what was offered was truly a blessing to him anyway. But it took him 7 months of sending out “thousands” of resumes. (I put quotes because I’m unsure if that was hyperbole on his part and hundreds just felt like thousands.) He also worked with a headhunter that actually led to his new position. He was getting nowhere on his own steam and effort.

Let’s pray that God blesses Robin’s daughter and works in the hearts of those considering her resume, those choosing if she gets an initial “digital” interview, and those who actually have the pleasure of meeting her in person. So much rides on the video interviews these days and I think that’s crazy, but it is what it is.

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Lori's avatar

I wonder why with all the people on C&C and all their business contacts, that recommendations can't be given directly or known job needs offered here. We have well connected people here with diverse work backgrounds. We should network amongst ourselves and other like-minded substacks.

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Roger Beal's avatar

^^^ THIS ^^^

And I suspect Jeff would not even charge a fee for each successful placement!!

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RunningLogic's avatar

I would love to see this kind of thing too!

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Starsky's avatar

Hi Juju, Where did your son find a headhunter? I am also job searching 7 months now and no forward movement. I have worked with recruiters and agencies, but no clue how to locate a headhunter and the ones on LinkedIn appear to be total scams. (“I’ll rewrite your resume for $500….”) My background is in creative and I have management level experience.

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Juju's avatar

Ok he said to do an internet search for headhunting “firms”.

The one he found WAS from Linked In but it wasn’t advertised that way. He had no idea they were headhunters. The “firm” just advertised a position as if they were the company themselves. He responded to that job posting and that’s how he got connected to them. When he didn’t get the job that they advertised they continued to work with him from there on.

But he said you can find these firms on your own if you search for them, and no they don’t ask for $ for any of their services, not even resume help. They get their commission when they land you a job.

He also said there is some difference between staffing agencies and recruiting firms. The latter works for the employer, not the applicant, and usually are in-house. A staffing agency gets a commission when they find you a job. However smaller companies will work with recruiting firms outside of their company to find qualified applicants so it does get confusing. Many recruiting firms will specialize in a particular field too. He said to just keep looking and weed out any that expect a fee up front as you are correct … they are leeches.

I just did an internet search for “how to find a reputable headhunting firm” and there were several interesting articles explaining how they work, how companies find them, and how applicants find them.

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Juju's avatar

My suddenly exhausted son trying to get used to the demands of a 9-5 job is still in bed this Saturday morning 😆, but as soon as he wakes up I’ll ask him and edit this reply for you.

(I find it kind of funny that the demands of his degree and long hours to complete assignments and then going to a part time job to earn his rent not getting home until 1 am didn’t prepare him for this rigor. 😆 However I was like him after graduation and I think the structure change threw us both off as we enjoyed the flexibility of each day and not a routine schedule. 🤷🏼‍♀️ )

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RunningLogic's avatar

I think you hit the nail on the head about the structure change being the culprit. It really does make a difference.

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Loretta's avatar

This is my son, graduated December and is an architect.

He thought the insanity/exhaustion of work would diminish with a "just 40 hours a week" job.

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Gary T's avatar

The trick to using a headhunter is having them find you, and they find you by searching LinkedIn. They are doing a computer search though(obviously), not a human searching, so, in your profile add every word you can think of that is related to the type of job you want or what you think a company HR person might ask a headhunter to find for them. The kind of stuff that might already be in your resume(I put my resume as my profile). Put all the software brand names you have worked with, all the types of software, any brand name tools of the trade, find out what names or acronyms people use in the industry and work them into your human readable sentences. Put all the certifications and various regulatory rules you've had to follow. like "21 CFR Part 210" or whatever. A headhunter spends their time trying to connect a person who wrote some searchable words down with another person that wrote the same stuff, its up to you to dazzle them in the interviews. If you are doing it right, when a job becomes available you'll get contacted(be sure they can email you) by multiple headhunters for the same job.

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Robin's avatar

Thank you, Juju! I will pass on all of this information on to her. And you are spot on, I think a recruiter will be the next step. Blessing to you!

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

And prayers you shall have (or rather, your daughter shall have). She may well become a direct recipient of Mr. Trump's move yesterday. Fun Fact (as they say): 1977, in the economic hang-over from Nixon recession, my husband, just out of graduate school (physics), could not find a job. Our church began to pray for him. One week later (if I recall correctly), his mother, 250 miles away, found an ad in the classifieds (remember them?); he applied, got the job. Worked there 10 years, then began his own fiber optics R&D company, still running it. 2010, my new son-in-law, newly immigrated to N. America, Ph.D., could not find any work. This time again, our church began to pray for him. Very shortly afterward, a job arose. With his name on it. The power is indeed mighty. (And I'm tacking on a plea that your daughter be able to start a family)

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rolandttg's avatar

Duly impressed with the grad degree in physics. Physics was easily the most difficult course I ever took

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I never even took Physics for Poets (as the introductory course was known at my alma mater). Nor in high school.

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Robin's avatar

Hello ViaVeritasVita, Thank you for your prayers!! And I love your testimony. God is good. She had my first grandchild in Feb 2024. And in the current economic times, she needs a job and she is hoping it can be 100% remote. Just crunching numbers :) Have a lovely week.

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

Robin, I don’t even know what that is, but I am asking the Lord to open the right door and direct her through.

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Robin's avatar

Thank you, Janice!

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Robin's avatar

How is the grandbaby?

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She’s adorable and beautiful and just an all-around cutie pie. That’s my totally unbiased assessment. 😄And watching my daughter being a mama. Wow!!!

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Verve's avatar

Robin if you can scroll down and see my post it will give you a little more insight into what is going on in the industry. I would recommend that your daughter look to some of the defense companies or defense contractors who require that you be an American citizen in order to get the necessary security clearances- they *want* to hire US citizens as opposed to the other tech companies. My daughter is still looking a year later. Best of luck and lots of prayers in Jesus' Holy Name.

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On that note, there’s a young American innovator named Anduril. He is a creative inventor now selling to the defense industry. He’s the first new contractor in decades and is coming up with cutting edge technologies. He may be interested. You never know until you try.

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Verve's avatar

Thank you for this! I was not aware of him!

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Robin's avatar

Hi Verve, I do not think she has thought of defense contractors. That is a great idea. Thank you for your prayers and I will pray for your daughter. Blessing for a beautiful week.

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Kenneth N. Myers's avatar

Robin. I’m not familiar with the field of Biomathematics and I’m sure it’s your daughter’s passion. My own field is in Applied Mathematics. I found that it provided a unique and necessary mathematical foundation in many different challenging opportunities presented to me over the years. I also found that true “Applied Mathematicians” are quite uncommon. Assuming your daughter will compromise on her research passions and is interested in more than teaching and research, I would recommend that she sell her skills as an Applied Mathematician (breadth) with a depth in her PhD dissertation research. That will open many more doors and opportunities and not implicitly limit her to her area of dissertation research. You should be so proud of her! Good luck!!

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Robin's avatar

Good evening, Kenneth, I am blown away! Thank you so much for your kindness and for your thoughtful reply. I have read it and re-read it. And I have passed it to my daughter. Thank you again so much. ~Robin

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Robin's avatar

Hi Kenneth, I will pass this on to my daughter. I am very proud of her. This momma’s heart hurts for her as she gets no replies at all from her job search or can not get pass the AI score to even have her resume in play. Have a beautiful week.

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Kenneth N. Myers's avatar

Hi Robin, Prayers for your daughter's job search. I thought that I'd share some ideas just in case she hasn't gone down those paths yet. She should seek out a mentor on the business side (and maybe one on the academic side) and use them. They are great for bouncing ideas around, opening doors, getting advice, collaborating with and having someone in the field that listens to you. One of my son in laws frequently talks to the former CEO of the company he works at - he gets frank, honest and constructive and useful advice. Research each job opportunity and direct her skill set to its problems that she will uniquely solve. Put those in a tailored resume and use the mapping through the process for that opportunity. Solving their problems like no-one else can. I think that once your daughter maps her current skill set to opportunity needs, she will free up even more ideas of where should could work. Technical people always understate their capabilities and accomplishments. It's in their wiring. Encourage her to honestly but generously list them (I could list a pile just looking at what a biomathematician is and that would not list her own individual attributes, accomplishments and experience). Don't forget the publications, reports, patents (applications too), etc. If she hasn't yet gotten a linkedIn account, I would recommend that. Companies use them to search for and approach potential candidates.

What I looked for in a new employee: Ability to apply knowledge and background to solve our unique problems; aggressive desire to learn; initiative; strong communication skills; strong critical thinking skills; strong team and leadership skills, integrity and character.

I asked "grok" about AI scores since I had never encountered one of those. It has some actionable advice to consider:

What Are AI Scores in Job Searches?

AI scores in job searches refer to numerical or ranked evaluations generated by artificial intelligence tools during the recruitment process. These scores help employers quickly assess and prioritize candidates by analyzing resumes, applications, and other submitted materials against job requirements. They are a key feature of AI-powered applicant tracking systems (ATS) and resume screening software, which automate much of the initial hiring funnel to handle high volumes of applications efficiently.How AI Scores WorkParsing and Analysis: When a candidate submits a resume or application, AI tools use natural language processing (NLP) to extract key elements like skills, experience, education, keywords, and even soft traits (e.g., communication style from cover letters).

Matching and Scoring: The AI compares these elements to the job description, assigning a score based on alignment. Factors often include:Keyword matches (e.g., specific tools or certifications).

Relevance of experience (e.g., years in a role).

Location or other criteria.

Scores are typically on a scale (e.g., 0-100 or percentile rankings), with higher scores indicating better fits.

Ranking and Filtering: Candidates are ranked by score, and those below a threshold (e.g., 70%) may be auto-rejected. This reduces manual review time for recruiters.

For example, tools like Phenom's Dynamic Fit Score generate scores based on skills, experience, and location, allowing recruiters to "pinpoint the best candidates" without scanning every profile. Similarly, platforms like HiPeople and Vervoe assign scores for resume-job matches, prioritizing top scorers.Benefits for Employers and Job SeekersFor Employers: Speeds up screening (e.g., from hundreds of resumes to a shortlist of 10-20), reduces bias by focusing on objective data, and improves hire quality by emphasizing relevant skills.

For Job Seekers: Provides transparency in some tools (e.g., LinkedIn's match score shows how well your profile fits a job, reducing low-match applications by 10%). However, it encourages optimizing resumes with job-specific keywords to boost scores.

Potential Drawbacks and Biases

While efficient, AI scores aren't perfect:Bias Risks: Studies show biases in scoring based on perceived race, gender, or names. For instance, large language models favored white-associated names 85% of the time over Black-associated ones, and male names over female ones. Intersectional biases (e.g., Black male vs. white male names) amplify this.

Over-Reliance on Keywords: Scores may penalize creative resumes or overlook transferable skills, favoring ATS-optimized formats.

Job Market Impact: As AI floods hiring with automated applications, it overwhelms recruiters, leading some to reject AI-generated content outright (e.g., 57% of hiring managers oppose AI for interview answers).

Tips for Job Seekers to Improve Your AI ScoreTailor resumes with exact job description phrases.

Use tools like LinkedIn's AI features or ChatGPT for keyword optimization.

Focus on quantifiable achievements (e.g., "Increased sales by 20%" vs. vague descriptions).

Test with free AI resume scanners to simulate scoring.

In summary, AI scores streamline job searches but require careful use to avoid inequities. As of 2025, they're standard in most large-scale hiring, with ongoing improvements to reduce biases.

God Bless!

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Margot Wooster's avatar

Praying for your daughter, Robin!

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Jacquijacq's avatar

When my daughter graduates college and couldn’t find a job I prayed to St Cajetan asking him to pray for her. She found a great job. I did the same for my nephew. If I remember correctly, St Cajetan sought donations to help the poor train for vocations and his efforts are the roots of the Bank of Naples. 🙏🏼

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Robin's avatar

Thank you, Jacquijacq!

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SB's avatar

Yea, it’s a really tough market. Hoping with interest rate cuts, things will start improving 1st quarter next year. Has she looked into analyst roles? They like math people. Can she take a teaching role at a college? Let me think on it. Idk how to find you again so reply to this comment so I have an email chain (I get emails for comment replies)

Btw, I just got a job offer last week. I’m a software engineer for medical devices. I had honestly almost given up for this calendar year.

Also, if she finds a smaller company she likes, tell her to try to establish a relationship somehow. Email someone there and express interest and ask for a lunch convo or such. That’s how I landed the job. They reached out a year ago but that job wasn’t “right” but the VP still wanted to talk to me. When I saw the company had posted a role on linked in, I emailed the VP directly.

Oh and tell her to find me on linked in: Sarah Boyce, PhD, tm wearing a tangerine colored shirt. Tell her to message me that she’s robins daughter from C&C post.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Love the C&C networking here!! 😊

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Robin's avatar

Thanks , Sarah. I will have her reach out. You are a gem!

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Robin's avatar

Hi Sarah, thank you so much for your thoughtful reply. Yes, let's connect!

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Retired RN's avatar

🙏 for your daughter to find employment, Robin

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Robin's avatar

Thank you so much, Retired RN!

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Is she applying to biomed firms in Cali?

She could also check out “MedImpact.” They are all about math and stats as regards healthcare. Not exactly biomed math but you never know.

They like smart people

Biomathematics sounds like an area CDC research would like.

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Robin's avatar

Hi Chixbythesea, I will pass this on to her. Typically, she would have a post doc for a couple of years. However, with the NIH grants being cut, the post doc was not funded. Thanks again. Have a beautiful week.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

You too! Thank you.

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Romimiva's avatar

Done 🙏

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Robin's avatar

Bless you, Romimiva! Have a beautiful week!

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Loretta's avatar

I have a growing prayer list of those looking for work. She's now included!

Let us know when she gets out so I can also give thanks.

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Robin's avatar

Thank you, Loretta!

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Delightful Designs's avatar

"The short version is, this problem didn’t develop in a day, and it won’t be fixed in a day. The Committee appears to be carefully building an unassailable scientific record before pulling the plug."

The fact that anyone is even LOOKING at the problem is wonderful to me! For so many years no one would even LOOK. I don't expect it all to be fixed in a day, I am overjoyed it's even getting looked at at all.

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

Amen!

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Jeffrey N. Gratton's avatar

I LOVE that pharma reps had to sit for the ACIP presentation

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Jx Franko's avatar

Jeff, episode 450 of Mike Rowes “the way I heard it” aired a couple days ago and I listened to it yesterday, guess what? He reads your substack and references it in his discussion with Elaine Culotti.

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Sarcastia's avatar

kewell!

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Verve's avatar

HB1!!!!!!!!! Had to comment before I could even finish reading the whole C&C post. My daughter 28 was shoved out of a biomedical engineering job of 5 years and 3 medical device PATENTS under her belt in favor of an HB1 who was paid a fraction with no medical or pension benefits. She has been looking for work for a YEAR!! Her former employer- a well known Pharma company in NYC did their best to sabotage her reputation in the most obvious and ridiculous ways to try to demoralize her and force her to quit, but she held on for dear life and they finally had to lay her off with minimal severance, but not before noting in her file that she was "fired" for poor performance (they eventually retracted that so she could get unemployment- she threatened to sue). The only thing left for these young American engineers is to beg for hourly gig work from start ups who are all just looking for HB1s. And a huge chunk of these startups are actually just fronts for the big name tech companies who don't want to offer fair pay and benefits. It's been humiliating and demoralizing for her because they love to meet with them, get their ideas, put them through a ridiculous number of interviews and then hire their own foreign colleagues anyway. It's a complete joke.

One more thing that I firmly believe-- these companies forced their employees to get jabbed. They are well aware of the damage- the cancer, the strokes, heart attacks and sudden death. Of course they don't want to pay for their medical benefits-- it's beyond evil.

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Jeff S's avatar

I went through the same nonsense more than once in Silicon Valley. Eventually, I just quit and went to other companies. Good luck to all 'o youse!

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Chixbythesea's avatar

She should look into a new innovator named Anduril.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Oh wow! Thank you for sharing your daughter’s experience! I hope she finds a great job soon 🙏

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Robin's avatar

Oh Verve, I am so sorry this happened to your daughter. I will pray for her!

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Verve's avatar

Thank you so much and she says thank you as well - we know the power of prayer!!

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Steve Stevens's avatar

We have an evil government!

Do you think the $100,000 fee will solve the problem?

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Verve's avatar

Of course not. They will find a loophole and work around but it has put a spotlight on the agony that American tech professionals are experiencing. The country at-large was completely unaware of this until now. The tech giants will need to have their own Bud Light moment - there will be a small sector of American tech that will have the moral clarity to rebuild this sector with American employees and it will be our duty to support them in this endeavor.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

They’ll pay the $100K and pay the foreign worker even less. Though, this might get old if Trump renews the fee annually.

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SB's avatar

As long as trumps admin is in charge, they can slow walk all h1b visas. Yea, the annual fee per employee might help but making the whole process untenable will end it. Companies aren’t going to pay an extra $100k every year and pay someone else to jump threw all the hoops if the hoops become impossible to get thru.

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SB's avatar

All while their business is at a standstill

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Chixbythesea's avatar

I saw that. Trump just made a low pay mandate for them as well. We’ll see what happens.

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Yuri Bezmenov's avatar

New York Governor Kathy Hochul got another COVID booster. Then she endorsed the Zohrantifada, who declined to endorse her back. Glad the administration is protecting American workers and jobs from H1B scammers.

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

I zoomed in on that booster photo…I didn’t see a needle in that vial 💉 🤷‍♀️. If she actually got the booster, I’m pretty sure she’ll be down w the Covid in a few short days…

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

That whole thing has been exposed as faked, it was an op. She didn't get any booster. And why would she still be promoting that in 2025? She is evil, and has endorsed the communist Mamdani for mayor of NYC.

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Kim Malinowski's avatar

IF she really got it; her TDS will spike quickly and feverishly effect her!

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Linda's avatar

I did the same - and didn’t see it, either.

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Juju's avatar

Even if it had a needle it could have been saline.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

1:45 pm Sept 16. My goodness.

https://www.outkick.com/analysis/new-york-governor-posts-covid-booster-photo-social-media

Will Cain: New York Gov. Kathy Hochul is determined to show her constituents, Americans, and the world that she is scientifically illiterate, incapable of understanding risk, benefit or immunity.

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Lisa Runquist's avatar

She is probably getting funding from the pharmas in exchange for the photo op.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Thank you so much Dave—just read it aloud to husband as well. Why not a real shot with saline……

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Tom's avatar

Sometimes "they" display that they are lying so that people will accept the lie.

Having been shown enough evidence that it is a lie, people will reject the evidence.

This elicits compliance with such people.

Then, all people so deceived will be more susceptible to future deception, having created a bias in their own mind.

This is a practice of the occultist, and they call it "revelation of the method." They believe that it enhances their "magick."

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Goodness me. That’s really weird.

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Tom's avatar

Their wickedness is weird. It's uncanny.

Glory to the Lord, who has defeated them!

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Our friend just got another shot in order to be allowed to see the grand baby. I’m sure the mom is getting them. I just hope they aren’t asking for them for the baby.

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shibumi's avatar

These people are insane. Of course they're getting the baby vaxxed.

Stories like that are all over Reddit, and almost everyone on that platform support vaxxing to the maxx.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Book smart but no common sense. I still don’t understand how all the heavy science types go for the “believe the science” nonsense. Which has not been tested using the scientific method. It’s loony or perhaps just satanic. God has put scales on their eyes like pharaoh etc…. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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Based Florida Man's avatar

So frustrating isn't it.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

And very weird!!!

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Uncle Juan's avatar

It’s the weekend! But I am retired, so everyday seems the same… except Sunday!

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SteelJ's avatar

Something seems missing on Sunday. I think Jeff's system is the best on substack. Those of us who don't pony up appreciate those who do and they deserve extra! I do pay for some cheaper stacks, as we all should.

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Casey Jones's avatar

Jupplandia and Sasha Stone.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Eugyppius and Gato Malo are my faves.

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john's avatar

Am retired and Christian, and today seems vastly different because of discovering this telling truth wrt Christian martyr Charlie Kirk.

https://x.com/The1PDP/status/1968783429928919343

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Based Florida Man's avatar

It's unfortunate Jeff is already going along with the public take on who the killer was (a democrat?? you mean a patsy?).

Thanks for the additional info on what may have the real reason Kirk had to be taken out.

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john's avatar

This explanation, starting at 5:39, makes the most sense to me for why Charlie Kirk was killed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVvDjbh4kdA

It is up to us Christians to keep it from taking 10 more years to get the "anything is okay, even things against Jesus' teachings" Zionists from controlling America. Pray older Christians find the courage to stop turning a blind eye to Zionist atrocities.

Am just humbly passing along some good finds found by others. .

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SA's avatar

I was coming here to say the same. It’s very disappointing. Some say that there have been threats to those with a large following to not dig into this. Follow the narrative.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Stop it! We had the discussion about Antifa creeps on here causing division and confusion a few days ago, ‘John’.

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Ruth H's avatar

I watched that video breakdown and it was all about nothing. Movements deemed signals. Someone holding a gun with people beside him just calmly standing by. No, it wasn’t a gun. There’s no flash from the muzzle. Looks like he was faking a picture of Charlie right before.

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Bard Joseph's avatar

He died for his faith?

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john's avatar

His faith was so strong that it would not let him support the genocide. So they silenced him, couldn't allow him to spread the truth to the world's young people. .

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shibumi's avatar

I don't know if we'll ever know why he was killed-- or even who killed him. His faith? His politics? Both? Neither, aka "something else?"

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john's avatar

Charlie Kirk was beginning to notice, and spread the word to young people, that some Zionist actions went against Jesus' teachings.

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Bard Joseph's avatar

Bingo. He was a total creation by them and funded big time.

His days were numbered.

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john's avatar

Yes

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Jeff S's avatar

I have a friend who lives everyday like it's her birthday. And she seems to be happy all the time!

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I'm retired, but husband is not, so weekends still feel like weekends.

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Jeff S's avatar

That's good? Or bad?

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Didn't understand your meaning until I began to answer. I'm happiest when he's home, so....and he--now 76-- has no plans of ever retiring. On my asking about this he said, "Why would I? I get to do what I want to every day." And what is that, she asked? "Invent things".

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Jeff S's avatar

I didn't invent this, but it's fun anyway:

Astrophil and Stella 1: Loving in truth, and fain in verse my love to show

By Sir Philip Sidney

Loving in truth, and fain in verse my love to show,

That she, dear she, might take some pleasure of my pain,—

Pleasure might cause her read, reading might make her know,

Knowledge might pity win, and pity grace obtain,—

I sought fit words to paint the blackest face of woe;

Studying inventions fine her wits to entertain,

Oft turning others' leaves, to see if thence would flow

Some fresh and fruitful showers upon my sunburn'd brain.

But words came halting forth, wanting invention's stay;

Invention, Nature's child, fled step-dame Study's blows;

And others' feet still seem'd but strangers in my way.

Thus great with child to speak and helpless in my throes,

Biting my truant pen, beating myself for spite,

"Fool," said my Muse to me, "look in thy heart, and write."

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Up my alley much? I devoted three courses in college to 16th and 17th Century English literature.

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Jeff S's avatar

Haha. I majored in English, with concentration in English Lit. Great stuff. Especially John Donne and Edward de Vere, the 17th Earl of Oxford, who wrote as Shakespeare.

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Tom's avatar

"Invent things"

Now I'm intrigued . . .

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I'm intrigued too! But I don't understand any of it.

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Emumundo's avatar

I recently saw a Mike Rowe podcast where he was interviewing Elaine Culotti. Several times during the interview he talked about reading Jeff Childers!!! Congrats Jeff, word is getting out!

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Ayn's avatar

Says a lot that the first person I heard about the H1-B changes from was my Trump-skeptical Gen-Z coder son; he was elated. Game changer for the industry. But wake up, U.S. education system: you're going to have to start actually teaching math again.

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Steenroid's avatar

We really don’t deserve DJT. Amazing what common sense can accomplish. The immigration changes are so obviously just common sense.

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Delightful Designs's avatar

Disagree, America DOES deserve DJT. What we DIDN'T deserve was the people who set us on the track to train wreck.

I look forward to seeing what happens in this country as the debris is cleared and we can start using our potential again.

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Gail W's avatar

Maybe the accurate statement is that DJT DOESN'T DESERVE US.

He had a very nice life and didn't have to do what he's doing -- and PUT HIMSELF THROUGH what he has gone through!!

But he did. For America and for Americans. ❤️

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Eternal Vigilance

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Freedom Fox's avatar

Yeah...definitely beats every alternative we've had for decades. That said yesterday's Q&A he had in White House left me with that Black Pill taste in my mouth. Taking in some C&C Hopium to help make the bitter go away for a bit.

Trump doubled-down on his OWS love, lauded it for saving the world. Said it has critics but Pfizer showed him evidence of how great it was. Next question asked why he keeps RFK Jr around who questions it. Trump replied that he likes to have an "opposing" voice around.

Opposing. Which to me means RFK Jr at HHS is Trump keeping his friends close and his enemies closer. Thud. The sound of my hopes meeting with reality gravity.

That's what RFK Jr's HHS leadership is up against. Big pHarma's best bet was positioning their shill Susie Wiles as the single biggest influence inside his administration.

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Gail W's avatar

I cannot LOVE this man ENOUGH!! BEST president ever. 🇺🇸❤️🇺🇸❤️

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Politico Phil's avatar

I can only observe that - apparently - God didn't think we deserved Charlie Kirk. Something to reflect on.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

IMO, Trump is doing many really great things...

But his full support, arming and funding of Israel's mass slaughter and land thefts in Gaza will taint his Presidency and himself forever.

His continued support, funding and arming of Ukraine is also incredibly foolish... but not nearly as despicable.

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Robert Belcastro's avatar

What is this business of saying a person is "unalived"??? What's happening with our language?? Whose making this changes? This is dangerous censorship!!!

When Communists take over a country, one of the first things they do is start changing definitions of key words. Go along with that and you are courting Communism. Please stop it! When a person's body stops operating, they are dead. If someone made the body that way the English word for it is Killed. Let's proudly reclaim our language!

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Dolce Far Niente's avatar

Saying "unalived" is a result of social media algorithms tagging the word "killed" or "murdered".

So that one's posts are not lost in moderation, people resort to typing "k*lled" or "mur*ered or "unalived".

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Robert Belcastro's avatar

K*lled or mur*ered is far more honest a statement. Unalived is just mealymouthed blubbering that is meaningless. Again, changed vocabulary. How to get to and stop the algorithms tagging? A person does that. It isn't the machine. We need to find a way to effectively get to the PERSON who is alive there and making these decisions and keystrokes that make the algorihms.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

In a way, using the term adds extra significance to the message since it also points out the censorship issue at the same time.

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Jeff S's avatar

Yes. Er, no. Er, yes.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

IMO, the word “unalived” does not roll off the tongue and is clearly a disruptive alternate to the regular terminology.

All words with the “un” prefix are like this unless the base word also starts with “n.”

To me, it jumps up and down about its own irregularity, the way suicide is described by two shots to the back of the head.

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Lynne Morris's avatar

That is true. But those algorithms are programmed by the folks RB identified.

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Lebo Von Lo-Debar's avatar

For example, "The unhoused individual suffered a severe case of rapid lead poisoning do to the sudden insertion of lead into their cranium, without consent, resulting in the individual becoming unalive."

Is that what you mean Mr. Belcastro?

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Lebo Von Lo-Debar's avatar

I used to be in the Military and I would like to tell some of the things I did in the military, but if I told you, then the government would have to unalive me.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

The interesting connotation with the word “unhoused” is simply a person without a home- could be for a variety of reasons.

“Homeless” has a connotation of, “woe is me, I’m searching for a home…” Often not true at all among the unhoused population.

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Lebo Von Lo-Debar's avatar

I did not create the language I just humoratized it. Apparently, it is my "new right" as an American Citizen to just make up nonsensical words as if they are seriously real words, hence "humoratized," which means "to make fun of f-tardery."

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Chixbythesea's avatar

They do this all day long in Germany with their language. As someone who studies the English language and its roots, I actually have no problem with this. It’s fun to do word play and can generate additional richness to written language, etc. I even enjoy slang used well.

However, nomenclature still has its purpose and utility.

If you’re tawk’n ‘bout Law, U better use the rite words ‘n shit or you’ll lose. 😂😂😂

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Jeff S's avatar

That is not funny. It's hilarious!

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Loretta's avatar

Huh. And here I am just taking it as tongue-in-cheek as is Jeff's way. Silly me. I should have read something "deeper" in it.

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SuezCanal's avatar

"Dangerous censorship"? That's a bit hyperbolic.

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Michael Miller's avatar

Fabulous progress in immigration, and restoration of medical sanity. Now let’s end Ukraine war by turning off the $ spigot (our hard earned $) and while we are at it, all “foreign aid”. Let those with sympathies write a check.

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Bard Joseph's avatar

Give us your huddled tired and hungry masses and gold card billionaires.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

How about de-funding Israel and ending the mass-slaughter in Gaza?

WTF is Trump doing, being the prime financial and arms supporter of the vicious Zionist swine in Israel?

Small wonder he is suppressing and mocking the Epstein files... and bending over for the evil roach Netanyahu!

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Sua Sponte's avatar

How many more baby steps or whacks at the pinata does it take before we get tribunals, trials and accountability for trying to kill us all with mandated mRNA gene therapy clot shot injection jabs? They experimented on us without informed consent!

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Lynne Morris's avatar

Gotta educate the jury pool first. It would be disastrous to try one of these people and have a jury walk them. Right now wa-a-ay too many people still believe the lies.

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Bard Joseph's avatar

I'm sure it was on the top of the agenda with King Charles and Bank of England

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Yes, his kissing the asses of both King Chuckie and Starmer was a humiliation for America.

Both of those guys are cockroaches.

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David Cashion's avatar

Many many more

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Mary G's avatar

As a tech worker I lovingly acknowledge and am grateful for the many wonderful Indian colleagues I have had the pleasure to work with and remain friends with. With that said, I am sooooo happy about the new HB1 policies. There is hope for my children and their children and all the young people and people in their 50s and 60s who are really struggling to find work in tech. I voted for this. 🎉

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