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Ron Bergen's avatar

Is it ironic that the same government that perpetrated the biggest fraud of all time is the same guvernembr that now wants to prosecute small business for “fraudulently” getting some of that cash that so many big actors stole shamelessly?

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Ron Bergen's avatar

And when I say “Fraudulently” I mean there were areas where guidance was vague, and people did what they had to to survive, and later found out they had not been in compliance but are getting nailed for it, in spite of the fact that at the time they did the best they knew. (Unlike the big actors, who apparently had no guidelines in the first place, but ignored even the basic moral guidelines.)

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daverkb's avatar

The Covid fraud is the flash trigger to all the tributary fraud, removal of rights, enslavement agenda. It's really One Big Fraud badly in need of prosecutions and severely meted out punishment. And they mean to kill us all.

Edit: Ha! persecutions and prosecutions are two different animals. But Mother Dyslexia don't know the difference!

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Chevrus's avatar

“Deny everything and make counter-accusations”

Dick Cheney

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Oliver Closov's avatar

This should be attributed to Karl Marx.

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Raptor's avatar

I was thinking more along the lines of Fauci. Potato poTAHto.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

same awful people. Does not mater what name it is. I think I would trust Marx more than Cheny to be honest

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

That’s what evildoers do, since the beginning of time. Accuse you of their wrongdoing.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

If the log is in your own eye, deny and see it in others. It's science.

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Truthseeker's avatar

Narcissist 101.

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Heather's avatar

What about all the school boards and colleges that took $. Didn't they just report the City of Chicago and Baltimore took millions for laptops and never purchased a single one for the students. Most also took $ for upgraded HVAC systems that were never replaced. The Boards all got raises and bonuses. Small business are "small" in the scope of the government unmanaged money scam.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Great points!!

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Runemasque's avatar

Which forces us to revise an old saying: be sure to look a gift horse in the mouth. "

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Mrs. McFarland's avatar

To quote my Dear Old Dad , “ FUBAR.”

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Raptor's avatar

Some of the fraud was big. They should be prosecuted. So should the big fraudsters. That is the part worthy of pressing. Big criminals are rarely prosecuted. Big actors are STEALING shamelessly.

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J Boss's avatar

Not just fraud... David Martin... all of the intent for fraud and harms was known to NIH and Fauci in early 2016.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMSz209wV8g

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AngelaK's avatar

To give more IRS type jobs to people who will

then definitely vote democrat

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Bitesandpieces's avatar

I certainly understand the indignation concerning the feds bill - and I’m not being a goody-two-shoes - but two wrongs don’t make a right. Actually Benjamin Rush didn’t actually say that. What he said was “three wrongs won’t make you right.” Either way, we should not condone breaking the law.

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Duckduffer's avatar

Everyone knows one or more than one business owner in their sphere of influence who took PPP loans without any urgent need for the funds. They took them, reserved for them just in case they needed to return the funds, but ultimately got free money. Is that fraud....or is it just wrong?

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Bitesandpieces's avatar

Hmm. Not sure how if it was ultimately “free money” that the gov can make a claim that you committed fraud. Now, there is the conundrum of the government doing whatever it wants. However, to answer your question, if it’s wrong, it’s not right. The perpetrator has to judge himself.

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Essay33's avatar

I know of a attorney who took 2 PPP loans totalling nearly 900k and had them forgiven. I have first hand knowledge of how he didn't use the money to retain single employee, and how he also simultaneously was paid easily that much by one client for doing almost no work (no litigation whatsoever). He's just one of many. It's disgusting.

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Bitesandpieces's avatar

Using one of Jeff’s childerisms, the atty is doing a sprint to the hot place. He’ll have to account.

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Ron Bergen's avatar

That’s right. I’m not condoning anyone who knowingly committed wrong. (And I’m sure there were many.) But somehow I’ll be surprised if the funding goes to charging those liberal schools and establishments that actually deliberately committed fraud.

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Jay Horton's avatar

But Mr. Wong said (to Mrs Wong), "2 Wongs don't make a White" Oh never mind. TGIF! Right on!

Later Jay

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Bitesandpieces's avatar

Correct! They make a little Wong.

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Angus McPherson's avatar

Now Ron, See it from their POV. They expected their Cabal to collect more than they did, and they're bound and determined to get theirs back. The crafty thing is, they do this while assigning more tax revenue to grow the aparatchik.

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The Society of Problem Solvers's avatar

That's your greatest fear? How was it that much different from Occupy Wall Street? The enemy here isn't each other, it is the corruption in our systems. We need to unify against the corruption. These echo chambers are getting us nowhere.

Do you want to unify? https://joshketry.substack.com/p/lets-unify-over-our-biggest-problem

Our biggest problem we face is the corruption of our systems.

Why isn't anyone talking about solutions?

Let's build a decentralized and transparent "4th branch of government" that is 100% built and controlled by the people as a parallel system that holds all of the other branches accountable.

They are using technology to organize against us. We must use it back against those who are corrupting our systems.

Like this:

https://joshketry.substack.com/p/lets-build-a-4th-branch-of-government

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Michael Miller's avatar

As we note that Vladimir Putin is a known assassin, let us remember that George Bush, Osama, and Trump also carried out illegal assassinations.

It is interesting how easy it is for us to point the finger at other countries for offenses that we regularly commit, like, for example, how aggressive China and Russia are.

Who has 700 military bases in other peoples countries? Who is involved in a series of never ending wars which we customarily end up losing?

Our hypocrisy is notable.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Considering that the US government created and funded the coronavirus bioweapon, along with the covid death shot as a bioweapon, hard to deny that the US government are the baddies.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Poppy = JFK assassination

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Annette Huenke's avatar

Much appreciate your observations here, Michael. Indeed. No one is more guilty of murder, resource plundering and wars of aggression than the US.

Putin was an attorney for the intelligence service. Not exactly what comes to mind when one hears the word "agent."

These questions occur to me as I read the comment thread: Has he personally assassinated anyone, or is this term being used more broadly? The three POTUS mentioned above are not commonly referred to as "known assassins." Do we reserve such monikers for America's enemies? Where is the evidence of his enemies falling off balconies? I've heard the claims, too, but where is the evidence? He's been the favorite boogie man of the west for more than two decades.

I've heard Western journalists now living in Russia say that there are more political prisoners in the US than Russia. They also talk about how safe the big cities are. I suspect that myth has more to do with most Americans' ideas of reality in that maligned country than truth. The US has done its best to destroy it from within since the end of WWII, icing that cake with their puppet, Yeltzin.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

The US no longer has the moral authority to criticize any country or person.

US has been bombing the shit of the Middle East for +20 years.

US has been interfering and overthrowing governments for at least 75 years.

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daverkb's avatar

I am glad you took this up. And well said. And certainly any Putin assassination activity was not done by Putin as a KGB officer in the legal department.

Putin is always shaded by the Five Eyes West as being a dictator, a tyrant and authoritarian and so on. However or whatever the case, the incontestable fact is that the Russian Federation is NOT waging 5th Generation Warfare on its own people like the United States, the EU and the rest of the Five Eyes states do. And I submit, Putin's real crimes lie in promoting Russian Orthodox Christian morals and practices, and thwarting the Woke West in its multiple Russian take-overs attempts.

Russia refuses to be Woke and refuses to be captured by the West. And if it were not for Putin and his backers, and their traditional Russian authoritarian style of government which stops color revolutions and infiltrators dead in their tracks, Russia would have long ago succumbed and become just another failed Woke Western controlled puppet state.

THE TRUTH IS: I now hunger to have the personal freedom which Russians now enjoy in post-Soviet times, including stores reliably shelved with food and homes heated with energy at affordable pricing. I also hunger for a non-predatory, non-looting financial system. I hunger for a government which does not visit continuous civil war on it people. And guess what? Russian actually love Mother Russia without vilifying their neighbors at the drop of a hat!

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Excellent points and opinion. Fully agree.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Fact check: true

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J Boss's avatar

Paraphrasing... "It is not whether you win or lose but how much profit you gain."

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JW's avatar

Didn't another Clinton "friend" just fall to the wayside?

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Jane Teller's avatar

Actually, I think the number of US foreign military bases number closer to 1,000.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

I’m not arguing you are wrong - I just don’t know - who did Trump have assassinated?

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daverkb's avatar

One can go down this rabbit hole if one chooses so, and yeah ... Trump for sure is no Boy Scout and made some large sized mistakes. But he was not a Pedo President, could speak coherent sentences with coherent thought, and he did not start the Woke Ukrainian Proxy War and cause the rest of the world to Walk-Away. And yes, my daily prayer is for Woke to Be Gone.

We are in one hell of a jam. But nonetheless, it is best to weigh things out in good wise measure. Plus side of the ledger versus Minus side of the Ledger.

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TB's avatar

Arguably Suleimani (sp?), though he was in an active war zone and allegedly involved in the war, so can certainly be dismissed by those who want to as "taking out an enemy combatant leader" rather than a "true assassination".

On the flip side, those who hate Trump's guts would likely say that he "assassinated" immigrants by building a wall that stops them from escaping from the definitely-life-threatening-how-dare-you-question-it conditions in their countries of origin.

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Lysias's avatar

What makes Putin a known assassin? What do we know?

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YYR's avatar

Journalists critical of Putin and uncooperative oligarchs tend to fall off very high balconies, for one.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

The U.S. prefers having them ‘commit suicide’ in the most improbable ways or gettIng killed in mugging, where their valuables are not even taken.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Small fatal plane crashes are another U.S. favorite elimination of ‘undesirables who know too much’ technique.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

Even large commercial flights have been taken down to eliminate a person or two, or 100. Like the 100 AIDS scientists on their way to a conference (MH17 crashed in Ukraine). Clinton was at that conference.

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Raptor's avatar

Or get a special surprise in their tea.

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Peter GL's avatar

sort of like what happens to those who oppose the various upstanding citizens here and are found having been committed suicide

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TB's avatar

Plutonium umbrella stabbings for defectors, for example... though I'm not aware of anyone giving evidence that Putin PERSONALLY assassinated anyone. It strikes me as more the Machiavellian solidifying-power type of things as opposed to the regime-change or there's-a-bad-guy-quick-blow-him-up-while-he's-at-a-wedding assassinations the US tends to organise.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Did senator Dianne Frankenstein take the Jab? That's a good way to get shingles.

Or was she smart enough to get the saline. I figure she's a long time insider.

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Celayne Jones's avatar

She probably is one of the small percentage of Americans who are “up to date” on their shots and boosters. BTW, I was called a liar yesterday for posting a comment on a Fox News article about the good senator’s shingles likely being correlated to the endless C19 shots.

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Janet's avatar

I know several seniors “up to date” who have gotten shingles.

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Celayne Jones's avatar

I know an “up-to-dater” who got shingles after covid boosters and a shingles shot. Denied the connection. “It would have been worse”, she said, “without all the shots”. Unprovable, yes, and also pathetic.

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AngelaK's avatar

Doctors are deplorable slaves to big Pharma. In being their slaves, they do not have integrity or uphold the oath not to harm. I always say 'no' because I fear the side effects, to which my PCP will say nothing.

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KGer's avatar

I trust Doctors and Big Pharma about as far as I can spit! The only good Doctors were silenced.

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Janet's avatar

Yup. I refuse those jabs as well. My hubs got the shingles shots after he got shingles. Then months later the JNJ. He stopped cootie jabs after that first

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J Boss's avatar

There isn't a jab left that I would likely take, save anesthesia for critical condition, life saving surgery. Anything else, no thanks!

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Celayne Jones's avatar

The shingles victim I knew was planning to get the second shingles jab to “protect against a recurrence”. I have no idea how that went, but I can guess.

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LS Woodruff's avatar

Love it, cootie jabs!

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Jan Dickmeyer's avatar

Yes and we personally met and talked with a lady who was stricken with it after Jab 2 . Her neurologist was all in on reporting it as a vaccine injury. She had been weeks in rehab and using a walker to attend a concert.

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MsReid's avatar

I believe the curriculum of Communism 101 must include a class called Creative Quips for the Clueless Masses.

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LS Woodruff's avatar

Same. But you cannot get them to understand why they need to stop the jabbing.

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Raptor's avatar

At some point, for your own sanity, you have to dust off your shoes and move on. Dumb caint be undumbied. Haha.

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LS Woodruff's avatar

Agree! So maddening to see people that I used to admire for being 'intelligent' and 'wise' so easily be manipulated and misled.

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Janet's avatar

.. I have an image of those 3 monkeys every time subjects like this come up. While the evil is happening right in front of their faces. To their own families. Precious children. Our country.

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LS Woodruff's avatar

Yes, intense spiritual darkness. Have been praying against it for quite some time now - mainly for it to be lifted from off of my loved ones, but indeed for the world at large also.

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JW's avatar

🙈🙉🙊

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JW's avatar

Many, many I know who are vaxxed ran to get the shingles shot added to their resume. I told them to watch out and they said oh no this is a serious disease that is going around. I know of one person in my life that has had shingles. One of those "believers" I said to use vit D, melatonin and the rest of the benign regimen and she said "but melatonin is a hormone and too scary to use!"

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Celayne Jones's avatar

They’ve seen the TV ads for Shingrex. It’s lurking in ALL ADULTS. Danger Will Robinson!!

Since Covid™️, I’ve known several people who never bothered to get a flu shot or any of the others Pharma re immense for “older adults” pivot to regular shots for everything. The PsyOps is not only about Covid. It’s about instilling fear of everything.

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JW's avatar

Exactly!

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LS Woodruff's avatar

Gads.

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N Springer's avatar

Wait till she finds out D is a hormone and not a vitamin! 🤯

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Celayne Jones's avatar

Wow. Having shingles around the eye can be dangerous to the vision but other than that my understanding is it is “just” extremely painful.

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MaryAnn's avatar

I had a shingles outbreak near my eye, a few years pre-covid. Got meds, ointment right away and it was no big deal. Then I “dutifully” got the first shingles vax (single dose). Then came the “new and improved” two-jab shingles vax, and I was urged to get it but said no thanks. That experience started my jab hesitancy. No more ‘just in case’ meds or jabs—including tetanus, pneumonia, etc. for me.

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Janet's avatar

It’s a horrible disease. My hubs was in terrible pain for over a month. Couldn’t sleep. One friend had it around her eye—that was horrific. My late sister got them often since she was seriously immunocompromised most of her adult life. I hope I don’t get them but I refuse anymore jabs.

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Raptor's avatar

I do.

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Karen Murphy's avatar

I have two good friends who got shingles after the jab. Guess I’m a liar too.

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Celayne Jones's avatar

“It’s a coincidence!” /sarcasm

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Jay Horton's avatar

NO DARN IT!!!!! Climate Change. Can't you guys get on the bandwagon with this?

Later Jay

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Jon Stephenson's avatar

I've read numerous places there is a jab/shingles immune connection. I'm not surprised surprised pincushion ignoramuses hang out on Fox comment section.

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Susan In Kansas's avatar

I took the shingrex AND the flu shot together in 2019. Last flu shot I ever got. I was sick for a week. REALLY REALLY REALLY SICK. wish I knew then what I know now. Live and learn.

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Danielle V. Naptastik's avatar

Can you believe there’s a black box warning on the NEWBORN “vitamin K” shot? It’s not just a vitamin obv.

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Shelle's avatar

Where could I find it?

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Celayne Jones's avatar

You learned! So different from so many.

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Annie's avatar

Shingles shots are being pushed heavily in my area which has a high percentage of covidiots. So I am sure there's a correlation.

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LS Woodruff's avatar

Thank you for posting this! I so hope that more can be awakened.

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Annie's avatar

At this point your go to answer to any and all shots should be NO! Unless it is a shot of rum or tequila. 😆 lol.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Your doctor won't tell you about the dangers.

I just stumbled upon this warning back in 2021 when I saw a link to the FDA warning on a website.

Lots of folks never heard about it.

Guillain-Barre Syndrome is an autoimmune disease. It can cause partial or complete paralysis. Complete paralysis like you end up in a nursing home wearing a diaper, eating mashed up food, and wishing for death to put you out of your misery.

Besides, there are antivirals that treat shingles.

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Celayne Jones's avatar

I’m not surprised either, although some commenters seem to get it.

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Annie's avatar

At this point encourage all these grifters and globalist to get every shot available. Need to send them on their way sooner rather than later.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

when you are called a liar nowadays, means you got it right.

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Satan's Doorknob's avatar

I did a quick search and can't find any news item that claimed Feinstein had taken the shots. For what it's worth. Here's a fact probably a bit more reliable: the virus that causes shingles (same as chickenpox, oddly) is one of many viruses that can reside in the body long-term apparently causing no problems, but can later be activated for whatever reason.

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Jon Stephenson's avatar

I can't imagine she didn't.

-California

-senior citizen

-democrat

-politician and dumber than average politician even before dementia

-dementia, probably not making her own decisions anyway.

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Janet's avatar

When people early on in the vax campaign would ask if I had the jab I would look exasperated and remark “Hey, I’m an old granny—what do YOU think”? Smile and carry on.

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Janet's avatar

The chicken pox vax over the years has interfered with the natural boosting adults would have had when most kids got chicken pox. So shingles erupt when older because we have lost that immunity. In a nutshell.

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AngelaK's avatar

My daughter had chicken pox as a child and got shingles at a stressful time in 2021. She did not have the covid vaccine. So my conclusion is that it can happen to anyone for any reason. Though they say if you had the chickenpox vaccine ( (1990 and later) you will not get shingles because the virus is not lying dormant in your body.

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Janet's avatar

My daughter had C-pox as a teen in 1985. No pox vax then. As years go by, I as a senior lose some immunity boosting I might have gotten before the jab by kids with C-pox but now I don’t because most kids get the vax now. I think that’s why so many seniors are getting shingles.

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AngelaK's avatar

Well lets hope we dont get it!!

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SB's avatar

Yes, it typically gets activated when your immune system is weakened.

Begs the question what the jabs have left in the system to be activated at some future point.

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Raptor's avatar

Or how long your immune system continues to be eroded. And why.

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Raptor's avatar

Well hello Satan's Doorknob. So nice to see you in the comment section again.

But. I prefer to believe that she is knocked up with her vaccine and is enjoying the consequence she herself forced on the American people. She is getting off easy.

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Politico Phil's avatar

My son sent me a Twitter post yesterday describing how she beat shingles in 2 day by using Red Light Therapy.

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Janet's avatar

I wonder if infrared sauna would do the same thing. My functional medicine doc has that available. Thanks for the tip.

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Politico Phil's avatar

I believe that is an entirely different wave length. I've had red light therapy for a knee injury and there is no heat sensation. The red light machine that was used costs $40K and produces two different wave lengths. The therapy only takes a few minutes.

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Janet's avatar

Cool. I plan to research that red light. It’s mentioned a lot in my unconventional health spaces. I want to find a place that offers it.

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Celayne Jones's avatar

The only place near me (rural/small college town) that has infrared sauna has a sign in the window “mask required”. Ugh.

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Raptor's avatar

Well, it was probably someone who knew you could get endless shingles from just a dose or two. ; /

Wear it like a badge Celayne.

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AngelaK's avatar

How would you be a liar?! That was your opinion. Opinions don't lie or not lie..unless you are a liberal demoncrat.

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Celayne Jones's avatar

I guess I have the wrong information. I usually avoid commenting on articles anywhere but certain Substack pages. Too many crazies.

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SadieJay's avatar

Seriously...she is a Franken-Fossil. How long will all these relics totter about on spindly legs pretending to be coherent? How much more has to happen before people wake up and take back what is rightfully theirs? The swamp dwellers in dresses and underwear with schlong pouches from the Target lingerie section to the suitcase stealing circus freak in charge of nuclear waste, this country is now THE laughingstock of the entire world, right down to the blackmail of Biden by you-know-who. Everyday it is something new and more revoltingly unhinged.

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Janet's avatar

I’m old and I’m sick and tired of being shoved around by geriatrics who some brag they’ve never sent an email or who would flunk their driving test. Retire already. Take the massive riches they have accumulated in MY government and book a one way ticket to where they really belong—and I’m not talking Florida. I’m sure Satan requires fully jabbed status morons.

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Jay Horton's avatar

Well, the people of Florida thank you for that but maybe she will "take a wrong turn at Albuquerque".

Later Jay

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Janet's avatar

🤣🤣🤣.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

She looks like Betty Rubble with that hairdo.

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Celayne Jones's avatar

I knew she reminded me of someone

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I'm showing my age for writing that comment!

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Celayne Jones's avatar

Betty is timeless. Dianne, meh, not so much.

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SadieJay's avatar

If we don't laugh, we will cry cry cry!!

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Mrs. McFarland's avatar

OMG! It is Betty Rubble!!! 😂😂😂😂

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RunningLogic's avatar

🤣🤣🤣🤣

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AngelaK's avatar

Try finding a good job in your educated field of expertise after the age of 50. It is nearly impossible and if you want to work, you will even be lucky if home depot hires you. Why should these people have the priveledge others do not!😡

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OnTheJump's avatar

Was a time when "experience" mattered more than your "family tree", or your gender dysphoria issues.

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OnTheJump's avatar

" How long? " Likely as long as we keep ELECTING them, I suppose.

Great argument, wouldn't you say, for 'Term Limits' .

And the circus freak stealing suitcases - STELLAR appointment.

But certainly not the only one, in the age of hiring on basis of " Equity Agenda " over " Merit Hire " ....... can hardly wait to see his next awesome, multi-pronouned hire. 🏳️‍⚧️

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MsReid's avatar

We have our doubts about the medical community NOW. Just wait a few years for all those doctors coming out of Equity Agenda Based medical schools to begin their literal "practices"..... on US.

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AngelaK's avatar

I know a 40 year old very liberal young woman obstetrician. She said she would be glad to do gender altering surgeries. And I couldnt understand how their conscience allowed them to do abortions!

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Politico Phil's avatar

Simply a complete lack of any moral belief system.

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Celayne Jones's avatar

That’s why I’m avoiding medical “care”. It’s a disaster.

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Peter GL's avatar

Not just term limits but age limits. You must be a certain age before being elected, there ought to be an age when you must hang it up. Otherwise we are left being led by senile citizens oops meant senior citizens

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T Kosse's avatar

I celebrated years ago when California put in term limits. Sadly, it didn't make a damn bit of difference. The California legislature is still as screwed up as it has always been.

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DogsLife's avatar

The base problem is the unelected perennial staffers running the show in every district for every single representative in States and DC. Case in point: Fetterman sponsoring legislation and "signing" letters while dead or disabled beyond the ability the make such determinations. And his "Chief of Staff" blocking any attempt to get actual proof of life from Fetterman. It's a grand mess and will only change when these federal and state employees lose their positions with the very same term limits that need be imposed on their frontmen. But I'm daydreaming.

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Jon Stephenson's avatar

Makes you wonder how much work members of congress personally do even under normal circumstances.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Fetterman's COS used to work for Harry Reid.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Ugh 😡🙄

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DogsLife's avatar

Now I'm beginning to wonder how old the staffers are! They could easily be replaced with AI, if they aren't already.

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Tory's avatar

Term limits

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KGer's avatar

Did you see the Canada Hershey ad campaign featuring transgender woman Fae Johnstone…..words escape me!

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SadieJay's avatar

It was pretty scary. I can make all sorts of comments on the chocolate spin, but I will just leave it there.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Hershey also fired unjabbed workers.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

A Franken-fossil!! 😂 😂 THAT made me laugh!

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Tory's avatar

🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Tory's avatar

Truth... a geriatric ward in DC

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Holly C's avatar

Yep, surprised the article didn't make note of the fact that shingles is one of the "recognized but rare" side effects of the jab.

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Celayne Jones's avatar

Pfizer doesn’t allow that in the articles

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Kitkat's avatar

I thought Gruesome Newsom was a saline participant, but sure looks like he got the "Droopy face" back in 2021. So who knows...maybe these folks aren't as important to their Overlords as they think.

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Annie's avatar

Many who thought they were important will find out that they are useful idiots to be thrown away when their usefulness to their master is over. Satan loves to humiliate his minions. Evil only brings misery even to the evil doers.

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RunningLogic's avatar

💯

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Jon Stephenson's avatar

I don't think any politicians got fake shots. Only some of the scientists and pharma execs, like Fauci and Bourla, who knew enough to know the danger.

I don't believe any politicians are smart enough to fake it.

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Politico Phil's avatar

I agree but.... Out of the 535 Congressmen, how many of them have suffered from the shot or SADS? It's a conundrum.

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Jon Stephenson's avatar

Most estimates I've seen are about 7% with significant vax injury societywide, 30+% with "minor" injuries.

R rep. Nancy Mace said publicly she was injured recently. Haven't seen her leading any pitchfork mobs since.

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Celayne Jones's avatar

The only one I’ve seen admit it is a congressman from South Carolina.

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Annie's avatar

Let's hope so. Many of the politicians are complicit with these mandates etc. Toadies should pay big time for selling out to the cabal and big pharma.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Exactly right. All are expendable and some, like Fauci, will be sacrificed as scapegoats. Even the President: I seriously suspect he is not the same person who use to be a Senator. I don't know what he is right now. He may not even be human. It's a mystery.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

She’s 89 friggin years old! What are these people drinking? The rumors about the ‘ghastly fountain of youth’ keeping them going are more believable by the day.

There are likely parties on both sides of the aisle, who want her gone. This country has turned into something mortifyingly horrible😖🤮

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Seriously- this is why there MUST be term or age limits. I’m OK with 3 terms but for ALL my life Finstein has been in office!

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Jaci's avatar

She is an insider who profited handsomely by buying up former USPS sites.

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Shari Ray's avatar

Shingles on the rise💉

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daverkb's avatar

Based Florid Man! One of the few Americans who knows how spell Dianne's last name correctly!

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Raptor's avatar

I am going to assume (for my own pleasure) that she was jabbed. Let the rest of her life be dominated by shingles neuropathy!

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Sheri veley's avatar

She would have at least gotten her free shingles shot. So she wouldn't get shingles. Isn't that how it works?

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“Therefore My people shall know My name; therefore in that day I am the one who is speaking, ‘Here I am.’”

How lovely on the mountains

Are the feet of him who brings good news,

Who announces peace

And brings good news of happiness,

Who announces salvation,

And says to Zion, “Your God reigns!”

Listen! Your watchmen lift up their voices,

They shout joyfully together;

For they will see with their own eyes

When the Lord restores Zion.

Break forth, shout joyfully together,

You waste places of Jerusalem;

For the Lord has comforted His people,

He has redeemed Jerusalem.

The Lord has bared His holy arm

In the sight of all the nations,

That all the ends of the earth may see

The salvation of our God.

— Isaiah 52:6-10 NASB1995

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

THANK YOU, Janice, for always interjecting with the HOLY WRIT!!

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Jen's avatar

I completely agree with you, it is really quite sad that Putin becomes the voice of reason against our own ghastly group of perverts running our country. Anyone else getting really, really tired of having their stomach turn every time we have to look at our "leaders"? Come on guys, let's put the adults back in charge in America. Surely we can find some people in this country with a shred of moral decency. There are 300 million of us.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

I'd be down for a trade of Biden with Putin. Putin at least has his crap together.

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Jen's avatar

Isn't it even sad that we can have this debate? And weigh the pros and cons of both? Our president is so terrible that we can seriously even have this discussion. I would venture to say, in the history of this country we have not had a more corrupt and incompetent president than this one.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Fully agree!

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Tory's avatar

agree!

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JW's avatar

And everyone thought Nixon was horrible!

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Jen's avatar

I read this really interesting article about Nixon...it seems like the Deep State took him down because he wouldn't back off trying to find out who really killed JFK? I am not sure how true that is, but I thought it was really interesting. Because all I've ever heard my whole life is that he was so terrible, etc. etc. This was an interesting take on it.

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Celayne Jones's avatar

Interesting. I would not be surprised, considering how they are still not releasing documents related to events of 59 years ago for “security reasons”.

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Barbls's avatar

Monica Crowley worked for and admired him. She's the first person I ever heard talk about that. https://youtu.be/nHttS6Qrlvo

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Nixon was the first POTUS I voted for in 1968 at the age of 22 (you had to be 21 back then to vote in national elections). He was not a "bad" POTUS--a bit narcissistic--but so many strong leaders are! I would believe the acronym agencies took him out--the "elder Bush" was head of the GOP back then and advised "Tricky Dick" to "resign". He later became Director of the CIA (I wonder how many young people know that). The Bushes are part of the "neocon crowd" and worse!

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Celayne Jones's avatar

He was a Boy Scout next to what we’ve got now. And he wasn’t senile.

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Barbls's avatar

I would not be down for that trade. They're both sick puppies.

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AngelaK's avatar

Putin is the most sane politician in the world today. More of a statesman. It is a pity that our involvement in Ukraine in 2014, and now in telling Zelensky not to discuss peace at the very beginning, brought him to the point of no return.

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Barbls's avatar

When you're comparing cancerous tumors, kind of silly to say one is a better tumor than the other.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

EXACTLY - be careful what you wish for, Based Florida Man!

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Based Florida Man's avatar

I follow the Ukraine war like I do the scamdemic. Have seen a lot of Putin presentations and backgrounds. Florida Stands With Vlad.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Sounds like your info is from Western Sources. Propaganda like the covid scam and everything else.

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YYR's avatar

No! Putin is mouthing the words that he knows mainstream Americans want desperately to hear. He's just trying to create division here. He's all-in for ending the world if we try to end Russia, so Russia can be reborn better and more dominant in the next world. Beware.

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AngelaK's avatar

That isnt true. I have been following him for years. He used to admire our 'God fearing' country. In Russia, a few years back, he started being perplexed at how we were changing. Now he is downright disgusted. Remember, he singlehandedly helped Russia transition back to a faith centered country from the revolting atheist nightmare it was for 70 years.

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Politico Phil's avatar

After 70 years of total USSR tyranny and then the chaos that followed the fall of the USSR, the people were ready to get back to the basics of life and faith. And so was the Orthodox Church. America had an opportunity to make a new friend and trading partner but our Neo-Cons wanted a perpetual enemy. So this is where we find ourselves....

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Tory's avatar

Thank you.. I was mixed on their history. However, our nation is shamefully funding woke education and celebrating. You may think we were on commission. Sank very fast on the moral compass of faith.

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

👍👍👍

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Jen's avatar

That's really interesting, I did not know that. Thank you for sharing. It is hard for me to root against anybody who is trying to move us back towards faith centered countries...we need it so very badly.

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

Thank you, AngelaK.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I think that’s true, he’s just using it as a propaganda opportunity but our country has given him the opportunity on a silver platter 😕

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Tory's avatar

This is definitely his opportunity! We hand it to him.

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

I have my doubts about that -- Putin "all-in for ending the world..."

If that is the case, then to be fully honest, we'd have to admit that Putin joins Israel in its willingness to end the world. Israel has said so publicly via the "Samson Option." Ironically, by announcing this "option," Israel admitted to having a nuclear arsenal: https://archive.org/details/Sampson_Option

Some allege JFK's opposition to Israel's nuclear weapons development -- and direct statement to Israel about further U.S. aid being dependent on their shutting it down -- played a role in the loss of his life. Israel denied Dimona...but it seems that might have been a bit disingenuous.

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Jay Horton's avatar

Shut the money off there and find out who's the friend. Just my observation don't shoot the messenger.

Later Jay

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

No worries with me on that front, Jay. Your point is well taken, and mine about Israel's reaction about Dimona and their being "a bit disingenuous" I said with tongue in cheek...

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Politico Phil's avatar

LOL... The Putin/USSR mania narrative is stuck on RE-PEAT.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Is that CNN or BBC you're basing that on?

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Lisa Ca's avatar

LOL. I’m starting to think the same!

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MaryLS's avatar

The problem is getting them elected with all the sophisticated cheating mechanisms available.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Yeah, but that's assuming we can get them elected...Right?

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Tory's avatar

Working on it. Mom4Liberty.

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Jen's avatar

I love Moms4Liberty!!! We're doing good things here in SC.

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Politico Phil's avatar

God bless them. In this whole war, women have really risen as warriors across this country, including several of our own like Shethinksliberty and Katherine. I have been amazed by the response. Just as in my Celtic history, when men don't respond to the threat, the women will step in and God help the opponent for they will fight to the finish.

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Tory's avatar

Sad it such a push…

Geez

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Tory's avatar

Sad... he is correct.

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OnTheJump's avatar

" The real covid fraud is in the government and in big pharma. ............ GOVERNMENT CREATED THE MORAL HAZARD IN THE FIRST PLACE. "

🎯

Isn't our government responsible, ultimately, for oversight ? If the ball got dropped, we KNOW who has 'fumble-fingers'.

......... and SO MANY balls been dropped, it seems.

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YYR's avatar

Honestly, as soon as "covid relief" was announced in 2020, I saw all this coming. The connected would get free money while the little guy got screwed. Tale as old as time.

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Peter GL's avatar

That's right, go after the small business that can't afford the billions they need to defend themselves, but leave the big pockets that support you to do as they please. And at the same time use the trillions you are printing to give jobs to your DEI supporters for the next election. Great system we have here

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Politico Phil's avatar

Look, we got to understand this is all part of the agenda to subjugate America beginning with the average Joe Blow and the average small business. They don't give a d... about fraud. That's an excuse to impose tyranny under the color of law.

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Tory's avatar

Totally

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RunningLogic's avatar

It was truly outrageous that they forced businesses to shut down 😡🤬 It made so many be tempted by the bailout money 😞

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David A's avatar

Now all the "Government oversight is directed at political enemies, which is precisely why the blogger revenue tracker bill must go down, and is I think far more dangerous than Jeff mentions.

...https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/vindicated-friday-march-3-2023-c/comment/13272051

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JW's avatar

Maybe this is where they got the idea for that tv game show The Wall.

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OnTheJump's avatar

ahhh.......Pachinko Plus, lol.

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Jack Clary's avatar

Why not take all that contaminated dirt from the train wreck and dump it on the souther border with detailed signs of it contamination and we won’t have to build a wall. Cross over at your own risk, get cancer and die. Just a thought...

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RunningLogic's avatar

I vote Martha’s Vineyard to save it from climate change when the ocean rises 😛

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Peter GL's avatar

interesting how all the climate change whiners have nothing to say of how and where to dispose of the contaminated soil. A few years ago NYC tried to sell off its garbage (simple, non-lethal stuff), put it on a barge and sent it away. Nobody wanted it, not even if they were paid for it.

This is beginning to sound like Three Mile Island all over again

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Lisa Ca's avatar

I like this idea

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Sunnydaze's avatar

So I read the actual Florida bill and correct me if I’m wrong but it would require bloggers to register with the state so they could be monitored. I found it shameful that it was stuck in the middle of the boring bill, but I’m convinced that was to ensure it went unnoticed. And it says a lot about the Republican RINO…ehem Senator who wrote it! I think we need to let HIM know this bill is unacceptable. I have no problem with having to disclose your financial backers, but that’s it. Not being monitored and having to register with the state. This seems waaaaay out of bounds. Am I missing something? I thought we had a Constitutional right to free speech? Why should bloggers have to pay for that right to free speech? Why is criticizing a govt official something that should be monitored? This is under the guise of stopping misinformation? Sounds like fakebook and the rest all over again under different packaging. What am I missing?

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Jeff Childers's avatar

You make the valid First Amendment argument, but as I read the (admitted imprecise) text, only bloggers paid to write about Florida elected officials would be subject to the disclosure requirement. Other bloggers would be unaffected. Again, if I understand the language.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Unaffected for now. Precedent setting.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I appreciate your optimism, and obviously your interpretation and expert law understanding, and I’m so glad you addressed it this morning.

However, as we have continually watched happen…give any govt an inch and they will take 10 miles and as much more as they can. We cannot allow them to take any more.

I also don’t think that just because a blogger is paid (private sector) they should be subject to the government because they criticize that government. Why must the government get a piece of every single pie? Look no further than cryptocurrency. They can’t tax that blogger more…so let’s call it a “fine” for not registering.

I went outside to do yard work to clear my head and the only thing that seemed more clear is that everything about this stinks like censorship and control and We The People need to make sure it goes no further.

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Raptor's avatar

Yeah, I am not down with registering either. I'm undecided on disclosure especially in light of the implications for ones livelihood should you dare to say anything that sounds sane.

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SadieJay's avatar

I do not want the hassle of reporting any income from a blog because it invites the IRS into your life in a big way. My opinion is free, and it always has been. Even if you don't ask for it. And...if you want to pay me, then I have a rock, under a tree where you can leave my cash. Until they do away with it. That's how they are going to get us all in the end.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Ya this whole thing stinks of more big government encroaching on citizen free speech and trying to find more ways to squeeze cash from the hard working fingers of citizens. Then calling it a “fine” for not letting the machine monitor us.

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Raptor's avatar

Remember back like under Obama they had a secret snitch on your neighbor, friends, mom and dad who disagree with his policies?

And on the other side of the aisle (sort of. pretended to be a conservative) the invention on homeland security. For our sake.

Just like having to register ANYTHING with the government. Somewhere along the way we have forgotten that we can tell them to p*ss right off. Slowly but surely, thread by thread then piece by piece we will be left with "you will own nothing and be happy".

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Lisa Ca's avatar

I agree with you on this.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Ya I thought of that too. I’d be possibly open to a donor list and beyond a limit maybe? I’m not sure. There has to be a compromise that achieves the Senators objective IF it doesn’t alter freedoms of speech and others protected rights such as that, and help the donors list be more transparent in light of the corruption we are seeing that is clearly funded by criminals with anti American agendas. How to strike that balance. Idk.

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Raptor's avatar

Exactly. I think there might be a way you can say that something is a paid promotion. How much you divulge about the payer...? We live in Cancel Culture where every little thing you say like "I think schools should open" will get you the ax. Lip sinc a rap song 10 years ago and no more position on Gator football roster (cowards). I guess the cancel can go both ways. Quite a few people are not Bull Gators now because of the nonsense.

I digress.

Shoulda just hit on the heart button.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

😂

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OnTheJump's avatar

That's good - because otherwise, it sounds a bit too much like what, tragically, is going on with our neighbors to the North, courtesy of trudeau.

And in some cases, with our very own DOJ. (When Garland isn't guarding the hen house - or so he would claim.)

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Loved watching him squirm--twice--under Sen Hawley's questioning

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OnTheJump's avatar

Loved watching him squirm under SEVERAL of these guys' inquiries - but Hawley's inquisition was especially enjoyable.

I couldn't help but think that Garland HAD to be thinking "time to retire" as he sat thru THAT !

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Jay Horton's avatar

Yep, I bet he has a cardboard box full of Maalox.

Later Jay

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David A's avatar

Jeff, I think it is far more dangerous than you suppose, and here is why...https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/vindicated-friday-march-3-2023-c/comment/13272051

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Steve Miller's avatar

If that is the case, it is well hidden as the verbiage says:

286.31 Blogger registration and reporting.—

139 (1) As used in this section, the term:

140 (a) “Blog” means a website or webpage that hosts any

141 blogger and is frequently updated with opinion, commentary, or

142 business content. The term does not include the website of a

143 newspaper or other similar publication.

144 (b) “Blogger” means any person as defined in s. 1.01(3)

145 that submits a blog post to a blog which is subsequently published.

"(c) “Blog post” is an individual webpage on a blog which

148 contains an article, a story, or a series of stories.

149 (d) “Compensation” includes anything of value provided to a

150 blogger in exchange for a blog post or series of blog posts. If

151 not provided in currency, it must be the fair-market value of

152 the item or service exchanged.

153 (e) “Elected state officer” means the Governor, the

154 Lieutenant Governor, a Cabinet officer, or any member of the

155 Legislature.

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Raptor's avatar

I could see bloggers and video makers being paid to write or speak for candidates up for election during a time window close to election having to disclose on the blog post or in the video who is sponsoring the item. At least at first glance.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I have no problem with people having to disclose who is funding them.

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Peter GL's avatar

If you, the accomplished lawyer, cannot understand the language, what hope does the simple layman have?!?

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YYR's avatar

What happened to "truth in advertising?" Remember when "articles" paid for by sponsors had to contain "paid content" disclaimers in magazines? Every article or news presenter should be under the same rules. "This site received HHS funding" or "this satirical website received campaign funds from X" for posts about said topic.

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

I read the bill, too, Sunnydaze. Our friend, SadieJay, emailed me last night with this story.

As I read it, it seems to equate getting paid as a blogger to write and have published articles related to the Florida Executive and Legislative branches with being a paid lobbyist. The requirements around reporting -- dates, names, compensation, web addresses, etc. on an electronic government database -- sure sounds like registering as a lobbyist to me. Except you're not.

I agree with Jeff that this bill is unlikely to go anywhere. It is still outrageous, though. I'm calling Brodeur's office today to ask for "clarification." Very unlikely one of our intrepid public servants will pick up the phone, but who knows? Maybe today will be my lucky day -- or theirs. :)

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Sunnydaze's avatar

That is great. SadieJay and I communicated about it this morning 😉

However, as I read the bill the definition of “blogger” needs to be defined then. Because the way I read it it includes everyone who “blogs” and posts articles from other people. They are throwing a lasso out and hoping to catch every single person that posts a political criticism of an elected official. Isn’t that what the 1st amendment is supposed to protect? This is nothing more than more grab for control. Everything in my spirit is wrenching over at this. I do hope it goes no where, but the fact he wrote it and filed it tells us a lot about Republican Rinos and Florida. Freedom is fragile (especially in Florida because it has a huge target on it) and we cannot turn away for one single second or they (all of them) will snatch it away.

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

I hear you! This bill needs a lot more defining of its terms, including "blogger."

Zack did say its intent is to target paid content that advocates on behalf of an organization via a piece directed to or about a political figure in the Executive or Legislature. Yet, again, I hear you re where this could go...

I think I will follow up via email to ask if Senator Brodeur experienced an instance of being attacked (or praised) by an organization via written content. If the organization solicited the content, paid someone to do it, and then paid that person anonymously, that could be seen as a form of lobbying without the current laws about lobbying applying to that person. This bill would change that.

Right now, it leaves alone you and me ripping new ones on the Governor or anyone else via Comments sections or our own newsletters. The slippery slope is that that could change...

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RunningLogic's avatar

Good points.

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SadieJay's avatar

I would love for you to "make their day". I sure have had enough. Weasely weasels everywhere.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I would love to be able to listen in on THAT conversation! 😬

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

I called, and as expected, had to leave two VMs -- one in his district office and the other in Tallahassee. Uh, Senator Brodeur, this is Me calling from northwest Florida. I am calling to get clarification and confirmation on your bill, SB 1316.

As I read it -- the 116 additional lines of code -- it seemed to equate blogging about FL Executive and elected Legislative members and getting paid for it with lobbying. Is that a correct interpretation?

Also, I would love to understand more about the legislation, in particular what prompted it. I'd be very grateful to hear back from you or someone from your office with help on my questions. As I am sure you know, your bill is getting a lot of attention on social media...and blogs...of course.

Thanks a bunch. Hugs and kisses.

OK, I didn't actually include that last part.

I remained polite throughout, repeated my name and phone number, and said good-bye.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Please keep us posted!

Also lol to the hugs and kisses 😆 Although with some of these people, if you had actually said that, you might have gotten a personal meeting with them 🙄

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

😂😂😂 𝙍𝙞𝙜𝙝𝙩?

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SadieJay's avatar

Which end??

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Sunnydaze's avatar

😂

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I’m planning to call too!

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

Please do! I just got a call back from "Zack" in Senator Brodeur's office. Good conversation. He confirmed my interpretation of this as similar to having lobbyists register. Senator Brodeur's thinking is that the public has a right to know if an organization or website solicited and compensated a writer/blogger to advocate on its behalf. I agreed saying that given the last three years of all of us being subjected to "vested interests," I can see the Senator's point in saying that the public has a right to know who's writing for whom and how much $$$ they were paid to do so.

I shared that this has caused grave concern and asked if the Senator has considered the "moral hazard" or downside of this legislation. Zack said he had and that the bill will get much more review. We got into more detail and it was a good conversation. Zack said they're being "inundated" with calls and emails. Said I believed it.

Then for good measure, threw in that I'd be in Tallahassee on Tuesday to advocate on behalf of SB 222, the Protect Medical Freedom bill. Does the Senator support that? Zack said he was unsure if the Senator had had a chance to read the bill (1,500 already submitted), but that he does support the right of people to make their own medical choices. Great, I said...There are millions of us who are going to be keeping on eye on that one...

Do call, Sunnydaze...

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I did! Although not as eloquently as you, I’m sure 😂

I said,

I’m a resident of central Florida. (Gave contact info)

I would like further clarification on senate bill 1316 which you must know by now is getting a lot of pushback from citizens and bloggers. First, this appears to be a clear 1st amendment violation and at a time when governments all over the country and big tech have stripped Americans of their right to free speech, this bill is suspect to say the least.

At a time when the federal and state governments are coming after citizens financially and calling them “fines” for non-compliance I would think you would have thought long and carefully about what message this bill would send to your constituents.

Please have someone contact me and further clarify why you would seemingly go after bloggers in the private sector in this manner. And by definition, blogger doesn’t seem to be limited to specific lobbyists but rather ordinary citizens reporting news worthy information, sharing political information about what our governments are actually doing and voicing criticism of elected officials on behalf of the citizenry in Florida, since our media tyrants and censors refuse to do so.

Thank you for your time.

Hugs and kisses. 😉

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Lisa Ca's avatar

This is good. And I actually fully agree with the intent because how many times have we been saying (for the past 5 years!) “follow the money”. The truth is it DOES matter. And food for thought - it really isn’t FREE speech if you are being paid for it. Sorry. Its a job. FREE is me posting right here with my comments and no incentives.

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RunningLogic's avatar

That sounds like an interesting and productive conversation!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Please let us know what happens!

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Let us know if you every hear ANTHING (either written or spoken) from your "esteemed" Senator Brodeur.

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

I did hear back from his office and I shared what his legislative aide said in another comment. (My senator is Doug Broxson.) It was a good conversation.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Did they explain in detail what this bill would contain and why it was drafted in the first place?

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Roger Beal's avatar

AND: When will DeSantis state his stand on this? What has the potential Trump-alternative POTUS candidate to say about leftard-style censorship in the "free state" of Florida, even if said censorship appears to be limited in scope? Thinking about the camel's nose.

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Karmy's avatar

I saw a clip yesterday of a police officer telling Trump supporters outside of a DeSantis book signing that DeSantis said anyone wearing Trump gear had to go. What was that about?

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Based Florida Man's avatar

It was private property of the shopping center. They had to move to the sidewalk (public property).

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Thanks! I saw the clip and asked questions too because unfortunately we only see the clip they want us to see - I wanted to see the follow up for clarity of what really happened.

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RunningLogic's avatar

That sort of manipulation happens all of the time so you are right to ask questions! Context and full disclosure are important!

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

Do I understand correctly that the book store barred entry based on the T shirt? IOW, those with the T shirts had to remain outside this public accommodation, denied fair and equal access to the "private company" acting as a public accommodation?

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Jaci's avatar

Not sure, but just like wearing a satanic-shirt to church...

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

A church is exempt from public accommodation laws that bar discrimination. IOW, a church 𝒄𝒂𝒏 discriminate.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

It just seems to me that it would make one seem far more credible if they just announced their payouts but I absolutely do not like “registering”.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

The difference between Patrick Wohajn, busted pedo gay mayor and the other pedo mayor, Pete Buttybutt, is that Patrick didn't actually interact with little kids (that we know of).

Whereas Pete actually purchased a pair of baby boys that he somehow allowed to possess.

How is this even allowed?

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OnTheJump's avatar

KEY point ... that we KNOW of. Will NOT be surprised if there is a butt, sorry, BIT, more to this story.

This sort of thing has GOT to stop - and if I see another Twit vid with little kids at a 'Drag' show.............

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YYR's avatar

Then don't look at the drag and bondage demons dancing for babies and toddlers in the Daily Mail yesterday. 🤮

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SB's avatar

Well, he did say Pete was his mentor...

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Starsky's avatar

Anyone notice that it’s always little boys they purchase?

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

Did you read the horrible story of the two ‘married’ gay guys who were arrested for raping their two sons, I think they were around ages five and nine. When gays were allowed to adopt was a sad day indeed.

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YYR's avatar

It was worse, they were pimping the boys out and their standard of living increased dramatically after they got custody. It was such a sad, sick story, I weep for those sweet boys.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Ugh truly disgusting 🤮

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Raptor's avatar

I believe you are talking about William and Zachary Zulock from GA. But I could be wrong. There are enough examples to go around and it isn't just gay guys. Mothers pimping out the children they gave birth to. It makes the men of Sodom beating down the door to get to the two strangers in town so they could rape them look sorta tame.

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OnTheJump's avatar

That IS a horrible story, and like other commenters here, I hurt for those poor boys.

But - suggesting that " When gays were allowed to adopt was a sad day indeed. " may be going a bit too far.

I have known several guys throughout my career that were gay, and in what they would call a "loving relationship", some married to their same-sex partner. And while it perhaps strikes a heterosexual person as "odd" - it does me, to a degree - but if they chose to adopt, I would be all for it.

That said - there are many involved in heterosexual relationships that should NEVER have had children .... or been permitted to adopt.

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Chevrus's avatar

Yeah that is definitely not gonna age well. I mean there is already a precedent in the public eye, right?

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Bubblehead's avatar

Those two were not grabbing "beers" - After thinking about it, I had to look into the sun to burn the actual image of their "beer grabbing" out of my mind!

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Outrageous! These poor babies 😥. Evil they call good and good they call evil…

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Laura Hayes's avatar

Regarding McCarthy’s proposed bill, he forgot perhaps the biggest one:

A parent’s God-given right to make any and all healthcare/medical decisions for their child, minus any government interference, coercion, cost, or penalty.

In other words, vaccine requirements/mandates for children to attend school, attend daycare, receive government assistance, be fostered, or be adopted, are egregiously wrong. A simple “no thank you” should always suffice when an individual or parent wants to decline or refuse any medical treatment or procedure, including vaccination, for oneself or one’s children.

The Constitution guarantees this God-given right when it states that a parent has the right to direct the care, education, and upbringing of their child. Unfortunately, this guarantee has been violated time and again, to the immense detriment of parents, children, and families everywhere. It is well past time that these violations are addressed, and remedied.

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YYR's avatar

"Medical decisions" is not limited to vaccines. Add abortion pill, abortion, chest binders, hormones, and puberty blockers.

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Susan Stephens's avatar

YES YES YEA

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Alan Davis's avatar

Brilliant ‘Maybe it was the Senate Fairy! There’s a legend that the Senate Fairy will do all your work for you that day, if you leave out on your desk a blank paper containing only an unregistered Ukrainian bank account number. So, you never know.’ 😂😆

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RunningLogic's avatar

This made me laugh so hard!!! 😆🤣

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Annie's avatar

Apparently there are a lot of "faeries " in government. They are nastier than ever.

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Mum’s The Word's avatar

Jeff, you’re awesome! However, I live in OH. Our senators are JD Vance and Sherrod Brown, a dude I’m not so fond of. I would like to think Ohioans wouldn’t elect Fetterman unlike our neighbors in Pennsylvania.

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Jeff Childers's avatar

Thanks, fixed. (Was still thinking about E. Palestine.)

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Lisa Vee's avatar

Yes-- I live in PA, and (unfortunately) our Senators are the installed Uncle Fester-man and Casey. May I add that I find it rather frustrating that all talk of the E. Palestine derailment only mentions the impact to folks in Ohio, when the disaster site is located on the Ohio/PA border. The impacts in PA have been far-reaching and largely overlooked. (Thank you for all you do-- I'll now step down off of my soap box.)

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Buying Liberal Tears's avatar

Fetter Man hat trick - Not working for OH, not working for PA and triggering!

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Notyours's avatar

I'm yet to be convinced that we in PA elected Fetidman...

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Mary H.'s avatar

He wasn’t elected , he was “selected “

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Peter GL's avatar

pity they didn't select my dog

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Mum’s The Word's avatar

Oh me too!

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Cathy's avatar

I too am in Pa and feel exactly as you. Not convinced at all

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

PA cheated.

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LMWC's avatar

PA didn’t “elect” Fetterman either. Ohio is sitting where PA, MI, IL, and MN have already gone. They are next in the sights.

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Jon Stephenson's avatar

None of those were as red as OH is now. OH used to be quite purple, but got more red. Kind of unique. They really need a good desantis-like governor to cement it in, though.

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LMWC's avatar

DeWine is the small “r” governor. He is purple at best. Before Whitmer, Michigan had Republican Rick Synder. And a solid Republican legislature. They were one and the same, and here we are now with no hope of going back. That is where Ohio is headed.

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HeatherSXfan's avatar

Except he wasn't elected, he was positioned. Curious who is pulling his strings.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

His wife will take over his seat. All going according to plan.

PA Gov. Shapiro will appoint her to fill the Senate seat.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Was coming here to note that typo too.

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Cathy's avatar

I’m from Pa and I most assuredly did not vote for Fetterman. I can only assume we have more idiots in Pa than I realized.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

PA cheated.

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Bubblehead's avatar

Maybe yinz could come on over to PA and vote with us - I understand that none of the election officials here will ever notice, and if they did, they would never utter a peep!

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LMWC's avatar

I’m from Michigan which had the 2020 election publicly hijacked, and never fixed. Our conservative Legislature couldn’t certify that disputed on so many levels, fast enough. The 2022 had all the things put in place to assure that Michigan would forever go forward just like Illinois and Minnesota and never see honest conservative anything in elections going forward. PA is on the same trajectory.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

No self-respecting kidnapper would ever think of actually kidnapping your crazy granny killing governor.

She would be tossed from the kidnapping van in 5 minutes tops.

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LMWC's avatar

O Henry. 😉

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Dead people are especially welcome to vote in Pennsylvania elections.

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Cinghale's avatar

As a PA resident and voter I must remind you that Fetterman was not legitimately voted in, there are plenty of examples of voter fraud and other shenanigans.

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Notyours's avatar

Just hiding his condition until after early voting had started was fraudulent enough. I'm sure the usual nonsense just sealed it.

But honestly, that anyone considered him before that is mind-blowing, to Cathy's nearby point.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Pennsylvania cheated.

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Jon Stephenson's avatar

"Maybe his still-unexplained neck lump separated from his body and is taking care of things at the office while Fetterman is in rehab"

Today's hearty laugh 😃 !

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Chevrus's avatar

I refer you to the film How To Get Ahead in Advertising....it’s hilarious. The protagonist has a lump on his shoulder which eventually be comes a head and takes over his life....

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💙 Local Clarity 💛's avatar

😆 i was spitting out my coffee reading about Fetterman. Heff, you are savage and I love that about you

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RunningLogic's avatar

The government going after small and medium sized businesses for fraud likely means they are going to make it political, you can bet that institutions like Harvard and The Kennedy Center won’t be among those pursued.

Surprised A&M and Carnegie Mellon scientists are saying something contrary to the government line! But good for them!

The pedo mayor is disgusting and what galls me is that the headline and stories mostly avoid mentioning his party and affiliations. You can bet if it was a Republican pastor, those facts would be highlighted and repeated!!

Coffee spitting moment of the day:

—Maybe it was the Senate Fairy! There’s a legend that the Senate Fairy will do all your work for you that day, if you leave out on your desk a blank paper containing only an unregistered Ukrainian bank account number. So, you never know.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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OnTheJump's avatar

Heck, RunningLogic - if the "pedo mayor" was Republican, it would be the FIRST WORD of EVERY related story:

"REPUBLICAN MAYOR Patrick Wojahn has been arrested for ....................... "

You can count on that.

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Steve's avatar

Drop the 🎤 n Kovi — spot on!!

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RunningLogic's avatar

💯

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Steve's avatar

Bada-bing…bada-bang…nailed 🔨 it…!!!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yup. Spot on!

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OnTheJump's avatar

Upon further review - some of these stories do not even mention, anywhere in their article or news piece, that he is a Democrat.

Truly unbelievable.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I noticed that too, and unfortunately, it’s all too believable 😕

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J Boss's avatar

"Surprised A&M and Carnegie Mellon scientists are saying something contrary to the government line!"

Old Ag, Class of '85 here. I have been angered and embarrassed with my almamater ever since they gave JFK hit accomplice Bush the elder a library. Learned after that of their role as a direct pipeline to the CIA. And during COVID, nearly everything from the school and particularly the medical researchers has been fully in line with the narrative (save Dr. McCullough, who they canceled).

"Texas A&M is among the most conservative public universities in America, with a student body well to the right of its peers at other schools. Its traditions of military service and commitments to agriculture and mechanical sciences (the original meaning of A&M) connect it to meritocratic invention."

https://americanmind.org/salvo/how-texas-am-went-woke/

Sad days.

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Julie's avatar

When I started reading yesterday about Fettermans high level of productivity while in the big house for severe depression, I thought, isn’t that possibly illegal to be doing stuff while incapacitated. we don’t even know what’s really going on with him.

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Bubblehead's avatar

I appears we are now in a world where "illegal" and "legal" apparently have no meaning to politicians! These people have given themselves complete immunity to anything that is illegal.

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ItsMeAgain's avatar

Yes! Even a POA cannot act as official representative in matters of his job. Something stinks in the state of PA!

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