Well why don’t YOU do something instead of just criticizing those who are? Don’t just expect everyone else to think of ideas and ways to fight and then complain about how nothing is working.
Well why don’t YOU do something instead of just criticizing those who are? Don’t just expect everyone else to think of ideas and ways to fight and then complain about how nothing is working.
Does commenting about how plan A didn't work, doing it more won't work, and plan B should be peaceful separation count as doing something? Or an idea, or something to fight for?
I think the 'itch' that has everyone scratching here is impatience. I know I feel it. I went back and listened to the Alex Jones interview with Dr. David Martin which put everything in context for me. I think because Dr. Martin was talking to Alex rather than a large audience like his speeches in the EU, he said some things that I have not heard him say before. " … This is World War III, that’s not hyperbole, it just comes in a different form...” That kind of put it in context for me. This is a big war and it's going to get uglier. But, as he describes, we are winning and the enemies weight is shifting to their back foot.
There are groups that have been working all along on the idea of secession. This is a very real outcome or solution. We may even see secession movements within blue states such as Oregon. This is something we can work toward and put some effort in. Seceding from the USG will not be easy and there needs to be more awareness of this developed.
Also, let me point out that the First Adam gave dominion over the earth to Satan at the Fall. The Second Adam, God the Son incarnate, paid the price and with His ascension to the throne, Satan fell to earth like lightning, and all dominion, power and authority was given to Him who now sits on the throne as King of kings and Lord of Lords. Satan may be god to the enemy but he is not god of this world. He is now nothing more than a squatter who is dug in deeper than an Alabama tick on a wart hog and it is our JOB as the Body of Christ on earth to evict Satan from this world through the power of the Holy Spirit which has been given to us for this purpose.
So... We have to take the longer view of our Lord and Savior and understand that this is a major battle in a war that has been going on since His incarnation.
"Parallel"...interesting choice of words. I think we are already starting to see an organic parallel society develop with people voting with their feet and moving to "freedom states" like FL and TX. As this grows, the politicians will be dragged along kicking and screaming. At some point, it will necessarily reach a watershed and become a formalized separation.
Chief among the latter IMO is the contractual guarantees made by the current federal government of SSA payments and Medicare benefits, to retirees who in good faith have paid into both accounts for decades. If this nation splits into Blue and Red parts, does anyone expect either one to be able to, or even willing to, honor those contractual payment commitments?
Y'all remember what Confederate States' scrip was worth in 1867? Or for that matter, what individual US states' scrip was worth across state lines in, say 1820?
Astute observation. The phrase "not worth a Continental" comes to mind in our first revolt against empire (which succeeded). Same experience with the Confederate scrip in our second revolt against empire (which failed). Of course, this is prolly going to happen regardless as the USG approaches financial insolvency before the end of this decade. The fiat USD is exponentially going worthless as wealth flees the USD in favor of the gold backed currency of the rising southern BRICS block.
Not really. Imo you need to propose alternatives and take action yourself also. Simply criticizing everyone else’s initiatives doesn’t really help move anything in the right direction.
If you think peaceful separation is the best plan, what are you doing to take action in favor of this?
Moved on already. Like many I don't read C&C much anymore. Do you notice the echo chamber has fewer people making more comments?
Jeff still has good stories, but the delusional cheerleading is too much for a daily dose anymore. The topic choices are interesting, the style is humorous but the rationality is gone and the fans are tribal and predictable.
I think we're going to "win", but I also think it could take at least a generation. And that's exactly my biggest concern; do we have the intestinal fortitude, tenacity and commitment to see it through? I think we have to be realistic about time frames, lest we get discouraged and give way to apathy.
We've named the problem and the "enemy"...but we have not come to terms with how long this is going to take imo.
Well why don’t YOU do something instead of just criticizing those who are? Don’t just expect everyone else to think of ideas and ways to fight and then complain about how nothing is working.
Does commenting about how plan A didn't work, doing it more won't work, and plan B should be peaceful separation count as doing something? Or an idea, or something to fight for?
I think the 'itch' that has everyone scratching here is impatience. I know I feel it. I went back and listened to the Alex Jones interview with Dr. David Martin which put everything in context for me. I think because Dr. Martin was talking to Alex rather than a large audience like his speeches in the EU, he said some things that I have not heard him say before. " … This is World War III, that’s not hyperbole, it just comes in a different form...” That kind of put it in context for me. This is a big war and it's going to get uglier. But, as he describes, we are winning and the enemies weight is shifting to their back foot.
https://expose-news.com/2024/06/22/since-2002-coronavirus-has-been-man-made/
There are groups that have been working all along on the idea of secession. This is a very real outcome or solution. We may even see secession movements within blue states such as Oregon. This is something we can work toward and put some effort in. Seceding from the USG will not be easy and there needs to be more awareness of this developed.
Also, let me point out that the First Adam gave dominion over the earth to Satan at the Fall. The Second Adam, God the Son incarnate, paid the price and with His ascension to the throne, Satan fell to earth like lightning, and all dominion, power and authority was given to Him who now sits on the throne as King of kings and Lord of Lords. Satan may be god to the enemy but he is not god of this world. He is now nothing more than a squatter who is dug in deeper than an Alabama tick on a wart hog and it is our JOB as the Body of Christ on earth to evict Satan from this world through the power of the Holy Spirit which has been given to us for this purpose.
So... We have to take the longer view of our Lord and Savior and understand that this is a major battle in a war that has been going on since His incarnation.
Well said Phil. Think parallel society or complete separation.
Later Jay
"Parallel"...interesting choice of words. I think we are already starting to see an organic parallel society develop with people voting with their feet and moving to "freedom states" like FL and TX. As this grows, the politicians will be dragged along kicking and screaming. At some point, it will necessarily reach a watershed and become a formalized separation.
Secession offers benefits and problems.
Chief among the latter IMO is the contractual guarantees made by the current federal government of SSA payments and Medicare benefits, to retirees who in good faith have paid into both accounts for decades. If this nation splits into Blue and Red parts, does anyone expect either one to be able to, or even willing to, honor those contractual payment commitments?
Y'all remember what Confederate States' scrip was worth in 1867? Or for that matter, what individual US states' scrip was worth across state lines in, say 1820?
Astute observation. The phrase "not worth a Continental" comes to mind in our first revolt against empire (which succeeded). Same experience with the Confederate scrip in our second revolt against empire (which failed). Of course, this is prolly going to happen regardless as the USG approaches financial insolvency before the end of this decade. The fiat USD is exponentially going worthless as wealth flees the USD in favor of the gold backed currency of the rising southern BRICS block.
Not really. Imo you need to propose alternatives and take action yourself also. Simply criticizing everyone else’s initiatives doesn’t really help move anything in the right direction.
If you think peaceful separation is the best plan, what are you doing to take action in favor of this?
Of course it is. But you were a dick about.
Move on dude. We all make mistakes.
You did. It happens.
Moved on already. Like many I don't read C&C much anymore. Do you notice the echo chamber has fewer people making more comments?
Jeff still has good stories, but the delusional cheerleading is too much for a daily dose anymore. The topic choices are interesting, the style is humorous but the rationality is gone and the fans are tribal and predictable.
i get what you're saying. don't get me wrong.
I think we're going to "win", but I also think it could take at least a generation. And that's exactly my biggest concern; do we have the intestinal fortitude, tenacity and commitment to see it through? I think we have to be realistic about time frames, lest we get discouraged and give way to apathy.
We've named the problem and the "enemy"...but we have not come to terms with how long this is going to take imo.
or maybe it comes down to what our Framers would've done long ago....blow it all up?