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TriTorch's avatar

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"I was at my son's high school graduation ceremony, sitting alone in the back row. My son was valedictorian, but I was the only family he had. His father had died when he was ten, and we had no other relatives. I watched other graduates surrounded by parents, grandparents, siblings, all cheering and taking photos.

My son kept looking back at me with sad eyes, clearly wishing he had more people there for him. As he walked across the stage to give his valedictorian speech, I heard someone sit down next to me. Then another person. And another.

I looked around and saw five elderly people I'd never met settling into the empty seats around me. One woman leaned over and whispered, 'We're here for your son. What's his name?' 'Tyler,' I said, confused. 'Go Tyler!' she shouted when he took the microphone.

The others joined in, cheering and clapping like proud grandparents. After the ceremony, they came down with me to take photos. They posed with Tyler, hugged him, told him how proud they were. My son was beaming.

As they were leaving, I stopped them. 'Why did you do this? You don't even know us.' An older man smiled. 'We're from the senior center next door. We saw the graduation setup and asked the principal if any students didn't have family coming. He mentioned your son.'

His voice was gentle. 'We all have grandchildren who are too busy to visit us. Today, we got to be grandparents again, and your son got a family cheering for him. Everybody wins.' I hugged each of them, crying.

Tyler still has those photos on his wall. He calls them his 'graduation grandparents,' and he visits them at the senior center every month." 4/4 —Angela T., Tampa, FL

Dan's avatar

Truth. Kids, Grandkids developing a life of their own is inevitable! Yes you will feel abandoned and alone at times. So what is one to do? Become withdrawn and bitter, wallowing in self pity, neglect and negativity? Why not continue to live? Reach out, develop interests, forge new relationships. Not just to benefit others but to enrich our own lives as well! We are all on the same rock hurtling its way through the galaxy and perceptible time itself. Make that present time count even if it is considered an illusion by some. In this moment it’s our tangible reality. A chance to work on our Spiritual being, growth!

Donna in MO's avatar

Our son (who is the social one of our 2 kids) would lament growing up that he didn't have enough cousins. My mom was one of 6 and my dad one of 4 - I had ~50 cousins growing up. On my side one sister passed before marrying and having kids, one was never able to have them and one sister had 2 kids. Hubby has one sister, never married, no kids. So 2 cousins compared to all of mine. But 'family' is who you make it to be. We had a combo grad party with a neighbor whose son was friends with my son, and 50-60 people came - extended families, our friends, their kids, etc.

Dan's avatar

My grandmother was an Irish immigrant, orphaned at 12 in a new country. She was sent to a large family to help with the kids. Grew up and married had 15 children during the Great Depression, 30s. All her sons saw active military service in WW2 and Korea. When she passed at 96 yrs. She left over a hundred Gr children and great Gr children. I have tons of cousins I have only met once or not at all! 😂

Donna in MO's avatar

Well yes, and out of all of mine, I am close to only 2 of them! Another dozen or so I see occasionally. The rest are either far flung geographically and/or have TDS so we no longer talk and 3 have passed away. Most are older than me and I am 60; it got expensive for a while with all of the grad announcements, weddings, showers, etc for their kids. Now their kids are having kids and getting married and such and the cycle is starting over.

INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

having a bunch does not mean much. I had a fair number, but when Gramma moved away from the old house we all lost our 'playground'. I stayed in touch with very few, right now just one, the caregiver of my father since I moved to the US.

Willing Spirit's avatar

Reminds me of a scene in Peggy Sue Got Married. She says to her grandfather, “I never see the cousins anymore now that you and grandma are gone.” And he replies, “I always said it was your grandmother’s apple strudel that held the family together.”

Carol M.'s avatar

And write those ingrates out of the will😂☕️🍪

Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

At times, I get sad and depressed about how little I interact with my nieces and nephews and then I remember growing up as well. How often did I interact with my aunts and uncles? Did I keep records of all the times my parents attended or didn't attend my milestones in life?

To be sure, my brother and sister made it easier for my parents to show up during high school. They were both in the band, both became drum majors, so it was easy for mom and dad to go to games, tailgate with other band parents and get involved in the school culture from that end.

I was more the introvert. I don't even recall trying to find my parents and family in the crowd during graduation. It was over in a blur. And it really didn't mean much to me. Getting the diploma was something I was supposed to do, but what did it mean? That I endured the mediocrity of public school for five years? The best part of high school were the friends I made, fellow inmates in the indoctrination offered by public education.

Did I need anyone to cheer me on for that?

Garden Lover's avatar

I was an extrovert to some degree. I swam, played soccer for a semester, played water polo, was in a couple of plays, sang in choir and performed in honor choir, was valedictorian—in other words, Type A overachiever. LOL However, my mom only occasionally came to a swim meet, and that was usually a big meet and once a year. My dad, who played water polo, only watched one of my games in my entire 4 years of high school. They did, however, come to my theater and choir performances at the high school, and, of course, my graduation. They were very proud of me. I knew this and didn’t really think about them missing all of the other stuff. Most parents didn’t show up to our regular swim meets or water polo games. All of those were during work hours, so I didn’t expect Dad to come. I did ask him to come see that one game (and we trounced the other team), but that was it.

However, when I look through family photos, I, being the youngest, have the least amount of childhood photos of all my siblings. Part of me understands, but part of me is hurt. I know they loved me, I know life just got busy with that many kids, but part of me feels like I was somewhat forgotten as a child, even though I wasn’t. I was very loved. I was lucky.

It was a different time. Now, parents are involved in _every_thing their kids do. Is it better? I don’t know. Maybe. Maybe not.

Why am I responding? Because you’re not alone in this. My parents were much more involved with my older siblings when it came to attending their swim meets/school events. By the time I was involved in all of that, Mom was tired and kind of done.

Is that fair? 🤷‍♀️ It is what it is. It didn’t change how much they loved me. I mean, Mom was so done taxiing us kids around that she pulled me out of school on my birthday to get me my driver’s license. LOL (And, boy, was I ready! LOL)

Honestly, I try to focus on all of the other wonderful memories I have of them. My dad’s been gone for over 20 years now, and my mom only three. I miss them terribly, but I’m grateful for the time I had with them. They did the best they could, and it was better than a lot of parents, in my opinion. So, I’m going to hold on to the memories and their love because there are a lot of times they let me down because they were human.

Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

Thanks for the response.

I imagine we all have criticisms and kudos for our parents. I did have it better than most. As one of those Gen X kids, I was left alone till the streetlights came on during the summer months.

My dad was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis in his 20's and was told (I found out later) the doctors said he would not live past sixty. Friends and family came from all over the country to celebrate his 60th birthday. He lived to be 67. He walked until he got into a car accident in the late nineties, and then was confined to a wheelchair, but we were doing physical rehab because he wanted to walk again, until he finally gave up following artificial knee replacements that got infected due to his immune-compromised nature.

It was game over then as far as walking was concerned.

My dad stopped taking stairs well before his death, and as his son, I wished we had grown up in the time of smartphones. He used to send me on quests to find the correct tools from the basement, and more often than not, due to tool illiteracy, I would come back with the wrong tools. Imagine if I could have sent me photos attached from my phone to his...would have made the ordeal of finding tools that much easier.

My mom died before he did in 2003 due to lung cancer. She was a lifelong smoker, and it's debatable if she would have lived longer had she stopped smoking as she was a chronic worrier. The smoking helped her cope with the worrying. I got my "worrying" gene from her, often plagued by fear and worry over things that were silly to worry about.

I helped her early and often with my dad, and then I was the one who took her from doctor to doctor to be diagnosed in 2003 until we did a lightning round of diagnosis in Florida, as the symptoms of the cancer became more acute. She was diagnosed with lung cancer just two weeks before her death. Briefly after her death, I made it my mission in life to urge people, if given a choice, get a closed MRI, not an open one. A closed MRI, I was told, would have caught the cancer.

My mom always urged me to find a backup plan when I told her I was an artist. She and my dad were a united front on this, and they were right to do so. At the same time, they sent me weird mixed messages when they became fans of folk art. So, on one hand, telling son he needs to get a backup plan, another side is they collect rustic art that looks like something removed from a dumpster and repurposed as art...

But all in all, a great childhood and adult experience. I got to spend a lot of time with them until the end. Being alone by an executive order made it very non-disruptive for me to take care of them during their last days while my brother and sister had their own families and lives. And I, in turn, was able to arrest my adult development for years.

cat's avatar

Same here re being the younger kid. There are only a few baby photos but a bunch of the older ones. By the time I graduated high school, despite my GPA being higher, my achievements meant nothing as compared to the oldest.

That said, parents were glaringly absent from some things my older siblings participated in, that they should have attended and been proud of. Strange...

Garden Lover's avatar

It was just a different time, and I’m sure my parents missed things that were important to my older siblings, but we tend to remember our own stuff, especially when the oldest siblings are 7 and 8 years older.

PamelaZelie's avatar

I still find it sad that my parents (who loved us dearly) never came to my siblings or my (youngest of 6) school or church activities. I barely knew any cousins; aunts and uncles did not visit. I had to go out into the world to find out how ‘normal’ families interacted.

Camille Swanson's avatar

Family dynamics are an interesting thing. I was one of 6 kids; the only girl with 5 brothers. I recall telling my mother I felt like “Rosemary’s baby” because one of the only photos I could find of me as a newborn was of my three older brothers standing around a bassinet looking down at me in the bassinet but you don’t actually see me, the only girl. However, I give grace to my mom who was clearly overwhelmed having had 4 kids all under 5 years of age. I do think it was a different time for the boomer generation and parents weren’t as involved in every activity their child was involved with. They were busy building a life for their family. My dad was a self employed strawberry farmer and my stay at home mom did his payroll in addition to maintaining a household and 3 unruly older brothers. However, my 3 kids had 22 cousins from my side of the family and great memories and stories to tell their own kids about with the regular family gatherings that we shared. I also think that my Dad was a more present granddad to my kids than he was as a Dad to his own kids, but I am very grateful for the close relationship my parents had with my kids.

Willing Spirit's avatar

“It was a different time. Now, parents are involved in _every_thing their kids do. Is it better? I don’t know. Maybe. Maybe not.”

I think that’s called ‘helicopter parenting’ often a weapon or a competition with divorced parents still at war.

No evidence that it’s beneficial that I can see.

I once saw a limousine pull up in the pickup lane at an elementary school to pick up a poor little rich girl and her friends for the beginning of a sleepover birthday party, probably at a beach house.

I think it’s a big mistake to make children feel like they’re entitled to such attention.

I did always attend my children’s performances if at all possible. If they breathed hard, I tried to be there. But I tried to keep it in proportion to reality.

neener's avatar

I also felt like that about graduation, and High School!

Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

I think many of us did. I remember thinking how weird it was for anyone to tell me they "loved" school.

Willing Spirit's avatar

I have 15 grandchildren and probably half of them or more have graduated high school at this point, for which I can not get excited. I just say, ‘Of course they graduated high school. Look who this country gives doctorate degrees to these days…

Leslie Murphree's avatar

Oh more of this. Angels in disguise. The forgotten generation 😢 are so very worthy & wisdom filled.

Dorota's avatar
5hEdited

Thank you for renewing my faith in people this morning, and cleaning my eyes as well.

Juju's avatar

Darn it Tri. My mascara is running down my cheeks. Your posts are becoming dangerous for me to read with my delicate aging facial skin that is having a hard time combining moisture with this winter dry air. Tsk tsk 😉❤️

So many of us out here don’t have extended families in our lives, some due to abandonment. I’m 60 now, but when I graduated from a large state college at age 23 I was the only student in sight that didn’t have even one person standing there with me. It was the most uncomfortable situation to be in, especially when others asked where my family was and gave me momentary sad eyes when I said I was by myself - and then quickly shuffled on. Lol Most people didn’t like how uncomfortable that made THEM feel so they couldn’t move on fast enough. It was hard walking alone back to my car while I watched the warm, celebratory energy others were having all around me. So I can’t stress enough what a wonderful thing those senior citizens did for that kid. I think I’ll look for ways to copycat their love. Such an excellent idea.

My children don’t have anyone but us but I made sure to make a big brouhaha for our youngest when he graduated last year. My hoots and cheers from my seat in the enormous arena rivaled people who had groups of twenty, I’m proud to say. 😆 He had three more bodies standing with him than I had so that’s one less lonely memory for his life.

NoWay's avatar

My son graduated college last May and I noticed a lot of people looking at their phone etc except when their loved one’s name was called. Then they clapped and cheered. I, and some others too clapped for every one of the 300 plus students and paid attention. Yeah it’s exhausting and LONG but they deserve clapping!

RunningLogic's avatar

Agree. People can be so self centered and rude these days 😕

Wise Old Woman in the Woods's avatar

that made me cry. Happy for you, your son and the graduation parents.

Luna Maximus's avatar

I'm an unwise old man in the Woods, and it did the same to me.

Janice albert's avatar

Amazing doesn’t do this justice!

LHuff8's avatar

Beautiful! Thank you for sharing this wonderful story!

David K Thiel's avatar

You made my heart stumble and my eyes water.

TriTorch's avatar

"Hope" is the thing with feathers -

That perches in the soul -

And sings the tune without the words -

And never stops - at all -

-Emily Dickenson

Leslie Murphree's avatar

My ♥️for birds too TriTorch.

Hope is the thing with feathers 🪶

Blessings to you today for your heart felt shares. We all need them 🥰

Dorota's avatar

Mr. Best Quote for everything!

¡Andrew the Great!'s avatar

Halfway through I couldn't see my computer screen anymore.

neener's avatar

Best story of the year! I am overwhelmed. I want to be a graduation grandparent now!

RunningLogic's avatar

This could be a new nationwide group!

TriTorch's avatar

Perfect! =) Make it so =) =) =)

Copernicus's avatar

With grandparents either estranged or too sick to come (and that sick one {mercifully, hopefully} passed to heaven by the time of graduation, and my spouse now gone, I hope that we have a crowd of surrogate grandparents, aunts, and uncles when our kiddo graduates high school.

Vicki's avatar

Fighting back tears here, Angela! What a touching story. And what a wonderful son youve raised to "give back" in appreciation by continuing to visit these wonderful people....because that's speaking volumes to them as well!

Ellen Batchelor's avatar

Totally made me cry. What a great idea!

CStone's avatar

Okay. I’m not crying…..my eyes are just leaking……I just ….. chopped up an onion ….no…. It must be allergies…….

Now I’m weeping .

It must be something I ate…..the weather maybe…..

Make it stop……. I. Can’t

daverkb's avatar

To the Great Torch:

One of the all time best stories I ever heard!

Thank you ...

Susan V's avatar

What a beautiful story thank you so much for sharing

Kathy Sullivan's avatar

...Before I even read the news today, I just want to say thank you Jeff for taking the time to enlighten us...you are truly a gift!

neener's avatar

Always read Jeff first- the "news" can then be viewed with the correct perspective!

erin's avatar

What a wonderful line-up it is too. :-)

KCwoofie's avatar

All the news that’s fit to print.

Roger Beal's avatar

So Mette-Marit was bored with her official duties as Crown Princess, and turned to Jeffrey Epstein to find, ah, solace.

What other elite female do we recall who expressed similar boredom with official duties?

Why, none other than Michelle Obama, who memorably remarked that being FLOTUS and living in The Peoples' House was like being in jail.

Navyo Ericsen's avatar

Maybe she was upset the house was white.

Cheryl Schroeder's avatar

Awe, thanks for that jewel 😂. This is why I love C&C. I get a humorous laugh at the serious stuff surrounding us, the stuff that makes our blood boil- to laugh is to make me realize that we are all in this together

kittynana's avatar

@Navyo- I nearly spit out my cereal on that one!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

RunningLogic's avatar

Right??? I’m glad I wasn’t eating or drinking when I read that! 🤣🤣🤣

Ray Bob's avatar

Maybe he was upset. I fixed it for you😆

Willing Spirit's avatar

@ Navyo. You know that’s right!

Jeff C's avatar

The most gratifying thing about the Epstein release so far is that it's confirming many of our suspicions that the ruling elite are simply depraved, sociopathic, degenerates who quite literally sold their souls to Satan. No wonder they bankrupted Alex Jones, he had their number way before everyone else. And no we aren't crazy conspiracy theorists, these people are evil.

Epstein's original 2007 federal indictment was part of the release (finally), a horrific 32 felony counts involving 17 minor girls. Those are the charges that federal prosecutor Alex Acosta dropped in exchange for a single state prostitution solicitation charge. Epstein ended up serving his sentence on weekends in a cushy county jail. When Acosta was asked about it later we got the famous "he's intelligence" quote. Now we know exactly how evil the original charges were, and what was swept under the rug.

It truly is incredible how these document confirms virtually everything many of us had long figured out. Perhaps Trump delaying the release was some 5-D chess, I'd like to think so. But Bondi's "the files are on my desk" quote, the "binders" stunt, and Trump's inarticulate statements about it being a "hoax" look terrible in hindsight. Some of the stuff in the documents is hearsay, and needs to be viewed in that context, but that isn't the same thing as a hoax. Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin look awful (unsurprisingly) as they were the biggest pushers of the "hoax" lie.

I suspect PDJT really wanted to protect the public from finding out the truly evil nature of those in charge, like a father protecting a child's innocence. But that ship sailed long ago, we expect to be told the truth no matter where it leads and are tired of the lies.

Juju's avatar
4hEdited

I believe DJT was referring to their use in bringing him down as the hoax, not their existence being a hoax. He was speaking to how the democrats were trying to use them, not for true justice, but solely to try to smear him personally. I also think they planted false evidence in those files during the three months before he took office, and that too would be a hoax.

Richard Whitney's avatar

That actually makes the most sense. The emails and the "tips" are too salacious to be real, and the Trump team most likely didn't realize they were there when Bondi pointed to her desk the first month.

Then when they actually started looking at them, they realized "Uh, oh" and tried to backtrack.

The Biden team stuffing them in the 3 months after the election is right up there with overthrowing the government of Syria and putting in an ISIS leader, blowing up the Russian general looking into the bioweapon labs in Ukraine, and bombing civilians inside Russia......all of which they did in that same 3 months.

Mrs. RW

KC & the Sunshine's avatar

I WISH Bondi would’ve said something like, “It’s on my desk BUT it is a LOT of info, and a LOT of pages. We MUST comb through it carefully to be sure NO victims are harmed or anything of the sort, when we trot it out.

We also MUST be sure that we use EVERY POSSIBLE bit of info we can, as leverage to get others to do our bidding. We don’t want a good tell-all to go to waste.” 😂 📜📑📃

David K Thiel's avatar

I'll give Trump the benefit of the doubt and say what he meant by the files being a hoax is the Democrats saying Trump is in them doing nefarious things.

RunningLogic's avatar

That would make sense especially since if I remember correctly, he linked that statement to the Russia files hoax.

Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

Trump says a lot of things.

David A's avatar

Which is why context is needed and listening is required. Jeff C said one thing I would disagree with, " article also whined that “vaccine skepticism is gaining traction under Trump”— which is a hilarious way of saying “democracy is working.” I would point out that liberty and the foundational principles of the US are working here, not democracy. ( aka two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for lunch)

Willing Spirit's avatar

We are a Republic.

Willing Spirit's avatar

Trump says a lot of things every single day and far into the night.

Jeff C's avatar

Yeah I agree, that was why I said his use was inarticulate. However, several neocons took that hoax quote and ran with it.

Aegeandreams's avatar

Elites need to be De-lites. These "royal" families are truly twisted and foul.

Joanie Higgs's avatar

I suppose the most charitable excuse we could give Donald and Pam would be that they were just trying to "buy time" until the files could best be targeted/weaponized. I only hope that was the reason.

Donna in MO's avatar

Could be any number of reasons. Early on I suspected that he used the potential release of the files as leverage to get people to toe the line or do what he wanted them to. As it dragged on and the calls got louder to release them, I presume that is was just a big distraction, lots of time and taxpayer dollars tied up in redacting all those documents where they could be instead investigating other things. Ultimately it seems like it's more just an opportunity to confirm what many of us already knew. and still skeptical that there will be any real consequences for any of this, at least in this country. Have spent zero hours digging into any of it, but have not heard of any members of Congress brought up??

The Great Resist's avatar

They’re reportedly still working on another three million files still to be released. Maybe they’re saving the best for last?

Merry McIntyre's avatar

It might have been egging the Left on so that they would demand that the files be released. BOOM!

RunningLogic's avatar

Yes, now they can’t really backtrack after all of their raging about releasing the files!

Willing Spirit's avatar

A very Art of War thought.

Joanie Higgs's avatar

That too, yes... but at such a cost to the rest of us, feeling so betrayed.

Willing Spirit's avatar

Speak for yourself. I’ve never felt betrayed by Trump.

Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

To me, it looks like the big story here is how wide and broad scope of this scandal is. It is staggering. And maybe why there was such reluctance (and still is)...too much disruption, so much corruption, and it's "too big to fail together" "too big not to fall apart." Maybe that was the impetus for the global push, is they (those involved as well as those who wanted to see justice) saw the writing on the wall, and the only way such corruption could stand is if it were all together.

America first, means that it too share bear what it needs to of this scandal, as well it should. And all that is gonna shake should shake out of this.

Sir Jeff Morency, Ph.D.'s avatar

On REDACTED (YouTube), they showed strong evidence that Epstein snuck out the back of the prison and a look-a-like was hung in his place.

Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

Would that she was actually in jail & praying that she someday will be in jail!

Janice albert's avatar

Good grief - you literally took the words out of my mouth!!!

Could be true…🤔

Veranda Vamp's avatar

Last night I viewed the movie “Melania.” The contrast between the America-loving, self-disciplined, focused Melania and the America-hating, lazy, clueless Michelle Obama was perfectly exposed. The mainstream media is doing everything in its power to discredit “Melania” movie, but audiences have given it well-deserved high praise. The inside view of the White House, Blair House, Mar-Lago as well as the soundtrack make the movie an absolute treat!

Willing Spirit's avatar

Circumstances prevent me from seeing it at the theater. As soon as it hits streaming, I will see it!

Veranda Vamp's avatar

I think a lot of people are waiting for streaming…hopefully the Globalist-dominated streaming services (Netflix, especially) will be compelled to offer this delightful documentary which is a paen to excellence and self-discipline! The music is great! Starts off with aerial view of Melania’s SUV heading to Mar-Lago and Rolling Stones’ song, “Give me Shelter…” It’s clear, the Trumps MEAN IT! You’ll love it!

Willing Spirit's avatar

I finally canceled Netflix since they can’t stop grooming children.

Amazon Prime offers some movies still in theaters or very recently released and I’m hoping Melania shows up soon.

Veranda Vamp's avatar

What do you think of Hulu?

Willing Spirit's avatar

I don’t use Hulu, so can’t say. I know my younger son does and has a lot of purchased movies on there.

I just know Netflix was recently outed for producing child grooming programs, even in the current environment of growing awareness of the dangers.

Willing Spirit's avatar

Does Hulu do producing? I’ve thought it was just a streaming platform for movies, t.v. produced elsewhere.

Veranda Vamp's avatar

Good point! I keep thinking we’ll also cancel Netflix.

Willing Spirit's avatar

I have not missed it at all.

shibumi's avatar

"all they have to do is look the other way while their elites worship Moloch"

At this point, I think that the vast majority of those in power --politics and corporations-- worship Satan/Moloch/ Lucifer. It would explain so much about our very broken world.

Janet's avatar

I bet that gardening thing was fake too. So entitled.

Willing Spirit's avatar

You know that’s right!

KC & the Sunshine's avatar

Perhaps the crown princess or whatever her temporary title is, will be somewhat less bored now that her son has been accused of rape. Surely there’s a lot of back and forth, paperwork, lawyers to contact and so on that may peak her interest.

Willing Spirit's avatar

They say, ‘Be careful what you ask for…’

Skeptical Actuary's avatar

We can be thankful the Michelle Obama didn't want to live in the White House. Otherwise she probably would have consented to run for president after Biden was sacked in 2024, and she might have won.

Jeff S's avatar

Big Mike was like Big Sam in Gone With The Wind.

Roman S Shapoval's avatar

We need to stop the "Vaccines" being deployed in the air right now and sprayed on farmland...never been a better time to connect with a local farmer, and support geoengineering prohibition bills in your state.

Marty Kiner's avatar

It’s going to take more than state level legislation. Florida passed the bill already. I can honestly say it’s gotten worse since the bill passed. Right now there’s not a cloud in the sky. By this afternoon it will be completely overcast and gloomy. It happens every day. We need the EPA and the Agriculture Secretary to join together with the military and stop all the spraying nationwide.

Clara's avatar

No bill passed in the communist state of WA so when you can see the sky it is crosshatched. Sickening.

BelleTower's avatar

Clara, my conservative brother lives in WA with his family … our mother was born and raised in WA and it pains me to see what it has become.

Roman S Shapoval's avatar

fighting this right now in AZ - the state legislature here in Phoenix had a few bills that Senator Fink introduced trying to ban geoengineering...I blasted out emails to all my subscribers letting them know about updates, so hopefully we got a lot of votes. Wish us luck (:

Garden Lover's avatar

Fingers crossed for you guys.

Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Thank you! We're also fighting Flock AI cameras...have you heard of those?

Garden Lover's avatar

Yeah, it’s not going to happen in CA either. They were happy to let close to 20k homes burn. They don’t care about the “little” people.

Cheryl Schroeder's avatar

I see them daily in Texas, heck everywhere (state) I go I see them and have for many years now. They are getting worse. It HAS to be government/military sanctioned to be this pervasive 😡😡

TDawg's avatar

I’m right at the border in Folkston Ga, and I see the trails all the time here and in Fl. 😡😡😡

Dr Jen | Syringa Wellness's avatar

What if it is the military, running experiments... They do have that milvax unit still, don't they?

Marty Kiner's avatar

I’m not sure I understand what you’re getting at? Im sure military is included and needs to stop “experimenting” on us!

Cheryl Schroeder's avatar

That’s for the members of the military. A program for them

Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Good point - not sure...

Fish Whistle's avatar

Marty, I see cerulean blue skies in Jax all the time now that the FL legislature passed the "no spraying" / contrails bill. Our skies are no longer the silvery grey they have been for so long. If it is not raining, I am outside daily for most of the day. Today is a beautiful, clear, cerulean blue sky day...just chilly...

Further, aircraft contrails, if there are any at all behind aircraft are usually short and do not linger long. As they are simple moisture, a byproduct of the combustion of alcohol based aviation fuel, at altitude, at temperature... that's it. Your gas powered car does the same thing on gas or ethanol. The FL plan is working! It is plainly visible by looking outside and upward at the sky!

Marty Kiner's avatar

Thank you I know the difference between contrails and chemtrails. Maybe your skies are clear in Jax but in Sarasota they are not!

shayne's avatar

Same in Kansas.

Garden Lover's avatar

It makes you wonder if the reason it’s been so cold and even snowed in Florida is because of all of the spraying. (Actually, I don’t wonder at all.)

VelvetStitching's avatar

A big hearty AMEN to that! STOP the spraying NATIONWIDE!!! I never thought I would love crystal clear skies SO MUCH! Your description of what happens is true!

To me this is even more restrictive than the mandatory mask wearing of 2020 - 2022!

(and what all IS really in that aerosol spray anyway!?)!!! 😱😬

ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Was it 5 years ago? when some state university ag program excitedly talked about/showed its work on breeding lettuces with vaccines in them--you can eat your vaccines! Which just pushed me even closer to exclusively growing "heritage varieties".

Garden Lover's avatar

Which pisses me off. This should be illegal AND include jail time.

Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Yes I think you're right Via...I remember that news headline. Who wouldn't ? (:

william howard's avatar

find Waldo & you will find Zeldin

Janice albert's avatar

And the chemtrails!!!

Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Yes exactly Janice - currently fighting to support anti-chemtrail legislation that is being introduced in Arizona, and spreading nationwide awareness on this and EMF. Feel free to subscribe if you want to stay updated (:

Cheryl Schroeder's avatar

There has been a real push for legislation in the states. Texas where I live is working on it but if Florida has already passed legislation against it, why does it continue? My thoughts are it is military intervention for perhaps security over various bases like they do in San Diego and they can’t share it with us. If not, then it is truly nefarious. I do know when I see them the rain & clouds come and the weather folks don’t know until the last minute 😂

Marty Kiner's avatar

Because federal airspace is their playground and states can’t regulate it

Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Yes that is correct - the feds claim they own anything above 1000 feet I believe. Although it's officially ending according to Harvard scientists..it will still go on in secret until people take action en masse. Need to detox for now as much as possible.

Marty Kiner's avatar

There’s a # to report them but it “requires “ so much info it’s a joke. When you see them there is zero info on FlightRadar24 to identify them.

Keith Jajko's avatar

The dumping of billions of geoengineered mosquitoes is occurring daily on Hawaiian islands right now. The feds secretly started it, and now the state is getting involved with trying to dump *more*. It's insane. See the Hawaii Unites nonprofit which is trying to fight the secret behemoth behind this. They sure could use donations; I could not think of a more David vs. Goliath than this situation.

PS: Monsanto has a massive secret operation here on Maui, just north of Kihei. They have robot watch dogs patrolling the property. As Jeff might say, just sayin'.

James Goodrich's avatar

It’s amazing the things people seem to forget. Towards the end of Bill Clinton’s first term he began raising money for his 2nd term by selling off high tech computer, missile and nuclear technology to China. For a million dollar contribution to his campaign, collected by a man named Johnny Chung, Bill sent 3 super computers to China. These were supposed to be used for “domestic” purposes, but we watched on satellite them go right into military facilities. These computers gave Beijing the technology to pinpoint targets in the U.S., which was something they never had. He continued to sell off technology to them pairing the computers with missile technologies and nuclear technologies. By the time Hillary got around to selling 1/3 of our uranium production to Russia the Clintons had selling out America down to a science. This I believe was the beginning of all of the treasonous politicians that sold America out. And you can bet Joe Biden took the game plan to a new level, using old Bill and Hillary treasonous acts as a template for him and his family to make their fortune by selling out America.

How could we forget Al Gore receiving checks in a white envelope in a Buddhist temple for the Clinton-Gore reelection campaign.

Traitors, Bill and Hillary should be the first ones to be hung by the neck. J.Goodrich

Deb's avatar

Agree 💯!!!!

Nothing will ever change until someone is made an example! Starting at the top!

Just hold people accountable! I believe that is all the average American citizen is asking for! As we all know, they work for us, not the other way around!

James Goodrich's avatar

You’re 1000% right Deb. They investigated Bill and Al and let them both off. There was a man I forget his name that had to approve the sale of those computers that went to China. He said no way are you crazy? Bill got the decision making process switched from that person who said no to I believe his name was Joe Brown who allowed the transfer. Joe Brown like so many others got “Arkansided” when his plane crashed into the side of a mountain. (Never forget Vincent Foster).

Janice albert's avatar

One I didn’t know about - I am sure there are more…

Merry McIntyre's avatar

My cousin was a close friend of Ambassador Christopher Stevens murdered at Benghazi. My cousin was an alumnus of the US Naval Academy, a Marine, a JAG officer with the rank of Lt. Colonel. He had a high position at the State Department, was assigned positions in Moscow, Vienna & participated in the Oslo Accords. He was a great guy, humble, intelligent & fun. He was also devastated by Chris’s death & held Hillary responsible & expressed his views. He died 4 years after Chris from a heart attack. As a Marine he was fit & I have often wondered if he was taken out. He was buried at Arlington National Cemetery with full military honors. My family was stunned by his death as I remain today. The Clintons have blood on their hands.

Janice albert's avatar

I am so very sorry for your enormous loss. I feel anger and sorrow from that horrendous event and still grieve for those left to fight alone. I, for one, will NEVER forget her traitorous act and hope that she will pay the price here or in her next life.

PatrioticMama's avatar

Totally agree, Hillary has blood on her hands over Benghazi! My sister in law was at one time briefly married to the father of one of those four brave military guys killed in that horrendous betrayal. That dad spent years trying to bring Hillary to accountability.

Dianna b's avatar

Oh yes, and let's not forget right after she lost the presidential election the donations to the Clinton Foundation suddenly and unexpectedly dried up. While Secretary of state several foreigners made donations to the Clinton Foundation and one ended up on our National security Council. At that time ABC covered the story and he was suddenly removed. I'll have look up the names. There are so many examples.....that's why I knew I would never vote for her. Watched them for many years in action.

James Goodrich's avatar

Just as the Biden’s did including Hunters art painting business!🙄🙄🤔🤔

Janice albert's avatar

But he can’t pay child support…

The Great Resist's avatar

His artistic talent isn’t appreciated so much anymore.

Janice albert's avatar

It only has value to him…

GregWA's avatar

A suggested edit for your post: "Traitors Bill and Hillary should be the first ones hung by the neck."

Free in Florida's avatar

Just to lighten things up a bit - I have an “edit” for both of you.

Pictures are hung

People are hanged.

😃

shayne's avatar

I'll take your hanged, and up you drawn and quartered.... 😉😏

Free in Florida's avatar

Shayne, I am shrieking!!! Good one!

Aegeandreams's avatar

and I will up that to Dexterized.

kittynana's avatar

@Free- "Cakes get done. People get finished or through." _Sr. Mary Wilma, my second grade teacher. I have never, ever forgotten that.

Jeff S's avatar

My second grade teacher was great, too. I was in her class for four years.

Juju's avatar

🤣🤣🤣

kittynana's avatar

@Jeff S- HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Free in Florida's avatar

Hey Kittynana,

It’s amazing the influence some of the good teachers had and some of the small things we remember. Agree totally.

Graphite's avatar

So what does 'hung like a donkey' mean? 🤔 Is that something to do with poor hanging of a picture?

Janice albert's avatar

I have a list that Karma missed…🤔

Aegeandreams's avatar

that is actually too kind for them. slow and exacting should be their demise, just as they did to the american people those years in office.

neener's avatar

Instead of deposition, the rack!

James Goodrich's avatar

Done Thank You GregWA

TDawg's avatar

Don’t forget renting out the Lincoln Bedroom

James Goodrich's avatar

Just look at the last 3 Democrats presidents (Clinton, Obama and Biden) the sleazy scumbag way they sold out America to profit beyond anyone’s wildest imagination personally! Ilhan Omar, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Ssnders are just a few additional traitors that come to mind.

TDawg's avatar

There’s a guy who goes by the moniker Political Moonshine. He has a series about what he calls Dynastic Bush. Bush 41 was pure evil and was the planner behind everything we see today. He had help of course. From Satan, Kissinger, (I digress), Rothschild, (again) and all the other evil SOB’s out there planning the destruction of the US. Look up Moonshine . Smart guy. Attorney from Oregon. Great series on Covid as a construct of enterprise fraud also.

BelleTower's avatar

These people are no good but I do not like to limit lists of no good people to democrats … we have some fine examples of our own starting with the bushes and Cheneys. Horrifying if you look into it … you may not want to …

James Goodrich's avatar

Mitch McConnell is another one that sold America out to the Chinese. He personally profited taking money out of American Businesses accounts, billions and billions. He himself had a serious case of TDS. He did keep Merrick Garland out of the Supreme Court but then helped vote him in as Attorney General, what a God awful mistake that was…

Johnny-O's avatar

But the constant dish of the day here is partisan cake. Pay no attention to the evil doers in our own party!

Aegeandreams's avatar

those 3 are an abomination to our country. the only reason obama got in was bc of his skin color. he had nothing else to bring to the table.

Cheryl Schroeder's avatar

I DO remember how he was under China’s control- I remember that Jonny Chung deal - caught red handed. But Bill was very slippery and always was corrupt, and he got away with it. It should have stopped the corruption right then, but maybe it was only the American people that cared? Apparently the current government didn’t.

James Goodrich's avatar

That Johnny Chung frequented the White House I think over 20 times. This was why Biden did his treasonous deals at his house in Rehoboth Beach. He learned from the Clinton’s mistakes…

Julie Ann B's avatar

Would love to see them publicly hung!

Aegeandreams's avatar

the clintons are truly demonic. I mean that literally. They both are sickening and vile. may they rot not in peace and when under 6 feet of dirt, we can piss on their graves.

Tonya's avatar

If only the Dems would recognize that it was Obamacare that CAUSED (or exacerbated) the affordability crisis in health care, then Obama's legacy would be just as bad as the other 3 recent Democrat U.S. presidents.

JasonT's avatar

His legacy is just as bad, worse even, but legacy media is not yet ready to acknowledge that fact; and likely never will be.

🌱Nard🙏's avatar

I think it’s coming. I hope it’s coming. Please let it come!

Melissa MB's avatar

Part of his legacy is all the demonic judges we have. He did a great job of changing our nation and it’s gonna take quite a while to undo what he did. But Trump is up to the task.

Alan Devincentis's avatar

Well, hes black. Sort of.

Deb's avatar

I believe they know that truth... that Obamacare is a farce! They will never admit to it being their baby and continue to push the lie that the Republicans are the ones who are going to deny care and grandma is going to die! Our legislators need to be made to have a backbone and call it out for what it is!!!!

Julie Ann B's avatar

Obama himself is a farce! So is whiney Big Mike!

Janice albert's avatar

You are correct - I can’t remember a pair of whiners like them!

Julie Ann B's avatar

They’re just miserable people who despise our country!

Pat Wetzel's avatar

They need to be forced to use it. And pay for it out of their own pockets.

Bard Joseph's avatar

The Drug Trust controls all. Even Trumprx.

Skenny's avatar

Someone deserves some kind of award or recognition for Obamacare. At the time it was designed and implemented, healthcare in the US was already so screwed up that it took a Herculean effort to make it worse. Against all odds, they succeeded.

Jeff S's avatar

Bath House Barry, The Exalted One, is beyond reproach.

Aegeandreams's avatar

only bc of his color. he has nothing else to put forth.

Jeff S's avatar

Caramel. Nice color.

Alan Devincentis's avatar

Hes half white. Anybody ever mention that?

Aegeandreams's avatar

who cares? that half does not show through. I don't care what color you are if you can bring excellence to the job.

Aegeandreams's avatar

Obama sux and we all know it. His legacy is already shi*. The only thing he brought to the White House was color. Other than that, he got nothing.

shibumi's avatar

But "color" was enough for a lot of whites with guilt. They probably still feel proud they voted for him.

Aegeandreams's avatar

very true and I say guilty for what? such nonsense. don't care what color you are. if you can do the job with excellence bring it or sit your ass down.

Cabogirl's avatar

..and Obama gets royalty payments from Obama Care STILL!!! Thousands $$$$$

SHug's avatar

Much as I do not care for any of the Obamas, this is incorrect Cabogirl.

the claims originated from a satirical website. A search of the US Patent and Trademark Office database showed no registered trademark for "Obamacare" or the name "Obama."

I checked several sites and this was the clearest one - https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.36YQ762

Cabogirl's avatar
3hEdited

Wow. That’s interesting. Thank you for that information. I followed up and read it. Thank you.

Bard Joseph's avatar

No one controls the Drug Trust.

Neil Kellen's avatar

Today's email from Trump to Denmark's leader:

I'm so sorry your neighbor got implicated in the Epstein scandal; and to think there are still millions of documents yet to be released. Shall we talk about Greenland again?

Cabogirl's avatar

OMgoodness I am laughing my head off. This is hysterical .. is it really true?

Quiltlady's avatar

Kind of makes you want to be very careful what you say in an e-mail.

Loretta's avatar

If you notice...so many are experiencing schadenfreude over quite a number or people that had some small "skirmish" some months in advance of humiliation.

TriTorch's avatar

These never-ending torrents of bad news - Epstein, ICE, Voting Etc. - is a demoralizing military tactic used to take down societies, and it is being fully deployed here.

Obama explains the lengths they are going to: "You just have to flood a country's public square with enough raw sewage, you just have to raise enough questions, spread enough dirt, plant enough conspiracy theorizing that citizens no longer know what to believe. Once they lose trust in their leaders, in mainstream media, in political institutions, in each other, in the possibility of "truth", the games won."

Who is behind this? All is brought to you by - and serves the interests of - the 1% who own and control the media and most of the government:

Here is well over a dozen Fox, CBS, ABC, & NBC local news stations all reading an identical script sent down from their singular overlord to crash & burn alternative media in order to enhance the Oligarchy’s Overwhelming threat to our democracy:

https://substack.com/@tritorch/note/c-208406729

Ultimately we are not consuming news. We are consuming a product manufactured by the richest men in human history, and that product is designed to do one thing: keep us so busy fighting our neighbors that you never notice the chains being fastened around our wrists.

Given that sad situation, I think we should put much of our emphasis back where it matters: God, family, & community, because:

"God did not give us the Book of Revelations so that we would build bomb shelters in the back yard. He gave us this Book so we'd build bigger tables and invite our friends and neighbors over and tell them about Jesus."

mspring's avatar

That, of course, assumes that one actually reads/listens to the corp media. I rely on Jeff to do that distasteful job and extract the humor for us. Thank you Mr. Childers for your boldness, valor and selflessnes in taking on such dangerous work! In fact, i can't remember the last time I actually watched an ABC, CBS, NBC news broadcast. Or Fox tv for that matter. I do listen to Fox on siriusXM while driving, tho, mostly business channel. We no longer need them to get news, and they are no longer much good at telling the news anyway.

Margot Wooster's avatar

Good post, but in the quote at the end, please remove the “s” from the book of Revelation. THE Revelation, not plural.

TriTorch's avatar

Thank you for the heads up. That was written from a cell phone with autocorrect off.

Margot Wooster's avatar

You’re welcome. I enjoy your comments.

Cabogirl's avatar

I don’t watch it or read all this sewer info. I only read Jeff’s posts at this point and frankly that’s all I need or want to know !

Skenny's avatar

I made the point elsewhere in the comments that "Biden" is properly presented in quotation marks. The term "news" should be presented likewise, at least with respect to corporate media.

Tom's avatar

This, right here. Point out what they're doing.

And close your comment with Jesus!

Bard Joseph's avatar

"Thus the Drug Trust, while maintaining the Stalinist Communist Government in Russia, simultaneously maintained a Communist back up regime in the United States, the Trotskyite Movement, in case the Stalinist regime should fall."

Eustace Mullins

Murder By Injection.

LMWC's avatar

Dan Bongino on his opening podcast yesterday talked of the media. They write the narrative and go looking for a story and witnesses to corroborate the narrative. I have said for a long time the media floods us with sewage with no interest in providing positive solutions.

CaplT's avatar

When one prays for all deeds done in darkness to be brought to light and cut away, one needs to be thankful not fearful when it happens. Without the investigations/ discoveries the political cancers grow.

Aegeandreams's avatar

Our friends and neighbors already know about Jesus. It is the literal demons among us in skin suits that we need to avoid. And we know who they all are.

Skenny's avatar

To be 100% accurate, references to "Biden" as President should be placed in quotations, since he never actually reported to work in that capacity.

Navyo Ericsen's avatar

Biden is actually of German descent. His real name is Otto Pen.

Skenny's avatar

That is certainly an acceptable reference, along with "The Presidency known as 'Biden'."

Julie Ann B's avatar

I also like to call him Bidumb!

Skeptical Actuary's avatar

I usually say "the Biden administration" as a neutral way of referring to those in power in that time. It doesn't piss off Democrats (at least not much) and it doesn't give credit to Biden as being president.

Skenny's avatar

Valid. But I much prefer pissing off Democrats.

Navyo Ericsen's avatar

Brandon is my other go-to.

Margot Wooster's avatar

Chuckle! That’s a good one.

RunningLogic's avatar

You’re on a roll this morning!! 😆🤣

Navyo Ericsen's avatar

That was thanks to the great Chris Bray.

JasonT's avatar

It's spelled: pResident.

Marty Kiner's avatar

I’m going to use that if I speak of him

Bard Joseph's avatar

He's a 33rd degree Mason.

Top dog in the World Order.

No news of him lately. Odd.

Aegeandreams's avatar

Who are you referring to Bard?

AM Schimberg's avatar

Never actually voted in the position either.

kapoore's avatar

My big prayer is that Leslie Manookian's lawsuit against LAUSD makes it to the Supreme Court. It’s really not about the teachers being forced to take a vaccine that didn’t prevent disease and didn’t prevent catching the disease; it’s about whether the government can force a person to take a therapeutic (like a vaccine that is not a vaccine). According to the latest verdict in the case, yes, they can if they had good intentions and didn’t know any better. But in the opposing opinion, this violates bodily autonomy, that right to own your own body. Wouldn’t it be great to get rid of that opinion. We are not slaves.

Melissa S's avatar

Good intentions negating bodily integrity? That reminds me of a scene from the John Candy/Eugene Levy/Meg Ryan film, "Armed & Dangerous" where the Levy character, a lawyer defending a Charles Manson type says about the criminal's crimes, "He didn't mean it." https://youtu.be/52qzfoSMqEA?si=N_fgkYBGDbFO5tLd

Skeptical Actuary's avatar

The existing precedent, 1905's Jacobsen v. Massachusetts, says a state can make a person choose between taking a vaccine or leaving the state.

I'm not sure if the decision made a reference to the opt out fine of $5 or not.

It really does need to go to the US Supreme Court.

Aegeandreams's avatar

any teacher could have walked away from taking the jab. their was no gun to their heads.

yes, lose a job but find another. but save your life.....

AngelaK's avatar

Most believed that the vaccine was saving their lives. The propaganda was strong, from politicians, to doctors, to media, to clergy.

Aegeandreams's avatar

which goes to prove the ability for cautious and critical thinking is nil in our country sadly enough.

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

✝️✝️✝️

Then the large crowd from the Jews learned that He was there. And they came, not because of Jesus only, but that they might also see Lazarus, whom He raised from the dead. But the chief priests planned to put Lazarus to death also; because on account of him many of the Jews were going away and were believing in Jesus.

— John 12:9-11 LSB

✝️✝️✝️

Their hearts of stone could not see that Jesus could just raise him up again.

✝️✝️✝️

“Even from eternity I am He,

And there is none who can deliver out of My hand;

I act and who can reverse it?”

— Isaiah 43:13 LSB

✝️✝️✝️

JasonT's avatar

There is a long history of killing the inconvenient.

ItsMeAgain's avatar

Update: My mother and m-i-l are now with God. I appreciate everyone's prayers for them and also for our families. 💔😢🙏

Peace be with you!

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

Oh I'm sorry. May the Lord comfort you all as only He can.

RunningLogic's avatar

I’m so sorry for your loss 😞 Praying for peace and comfort 🙏

Aegeandreams's avatar

And in the end, those same Jews turned on our Lord, got PP to execute Him and screamed for Barrabas instead.

neener's avatar

The book of John is my absolute favorite of the whole Bible. Thank you for your daily reminders that God is in control!

Sir Jeff Morency, Ph.D.'s avatar

Mine too, but the 1st verse is not translated correctly from the original Hebrew. It should read "In the beginning was the Plan, and the Plan was with God, and the Plan was God's."

Peter GL's avatar

Ha ha, "The Clintons spent 30 years as Democratic royalty" coming from the party that has been screaming NO KINGS

🌱Nard🙏's avatar

Hollywood, the Clintons, and the Obamas. That’s American Royalty.🤢

Peter GL's avatar

and as we are seeing, compliments of the Epstein files, true royals, both blue-blooded and partisan, are falling

Skeptical Actuary's avatar

To be fair, you have to add the Bushes. Thankfully Donald Trump stomped on Jeb Bush's hopes.

SB's avatar

Excellent point

Dr Linda's avatar

Another random thought: my mad dog demo relatives & friends always blame their Trump hatred on how he treats women.

None of them discuss Clinton and his total disregard and loathing of women.

RunningLogic's avatar

Yes!! And Doug Emhoff and Andrew Cuomo (until his fall from “grace” at least, they loved him before then), and so many others! They pretend to be supporters of women but they’re often users and abusers behind the scenes 😡

Dr Linda's avatar

I can’t tell you how many times I have brought that up.

🌱Nard🙏's avatar

They never do…and praise Hilary for STANDING BY HER MAN.

Aegeandreams's avatar

2 heads are better than one when it comes to demons. And hilary is a demon and I mean that literally.

PamelaZelie's avatar

When at least she “didn’t stay home and bake cookies!”

It still angers me when she insulted mothers who chose raising children to working OUTSIDE the home.

neener's avatar

I believe I was busy baking cookies, or gardening, when she made those comments.

🌱Nard🙏's avatar

I absolutely was. Literally pulling a baking sheet of cookies out of the oven while a picture of tea was seeping on my counter. I can’t begin to tell you how angry I was.

Aegeandreams's avatar

Offer your relatives cigars next time there is a political discussion.

Jeff S's avatar

"Shouldn't a gentleman offer a lady a Tiparillo?"

Jeff S's avatar

CA GOV Newsom also "likes" women. Two at a time. [Who doesn't?]

Juju's avatar

Is he one of the two? 🤣

RunningLogic's avatar

Well he is quite the narcissist (in the classical Greek mythology sense), his love for himself exceeds his love for anyone else, so I can see that 😑

Ed Thorrens's avatar

Blessings to all of you faithful friends and stewards of the common sense!

Charlotte's avatar

I would think that Harvard, especially after the last Epstein data dump, would want to keep their head down low. They gave Epstein a faculty position!

Bard Joseph's avatar

They are loaded by the deep state already.

Take away their tax exemption, like all foundations.

taxpayer's avatar

Alternatively, give federal tax exemptions to the rest of us.

BelleTower's avatar

Maybe they wanted to but the NYT had other ideas?

RunningLogic's avatar

That’s kind of what it sounds like from Jeff’s post.

YourGalapagosGullfriend's avatar

Off topic, but do we need to start an initiative to annoy Thune and Co via every outlet available (phone, social media, passenger pigeon, etc) about the SAVE Act, to light fires under their lily-livered feet?

Free in Florida's avatar

Gullfriend - YES!

The phone number for the Capitol is -

(202) 224-3121

Just ask for South Dakota and then Senator Thune if you get automated answering machine at the Capitol number. You will be connected to the office.

Pamela Nunez's avatar

John Thune’s direct number in Washington is 202-224-2321.

Beckett's avatar

I believe we do. I’m not sure what’s holding him back but we need to apply more pressure than whatever it is

Juju's avatar

He was stating there was a lot of important issues on the docket to get to and the SAVE act would extend things and they just didn’t have the time. Translation: we will do anything to avoid having to pass it.

The fact that he thinks ANYTHING else on the docket is more important than securing elections is appalling.

YourGalapagosGullfriend's avatar

Good to know. When we call, we can call him out on that sentiment.