I’m wondering if the cooling of the Atlantic has anything to do with the Hunga Tonga volcano Jeff told us about in 2022. It increased the water temp significantly when it happened - 2 degrees I think I remember - so could it just be adjusting back to normal now? I know the volcano was in the Pacific and this is the Atlantic, but the article said it raised ocean temps worldwide.
On those lines, to expand your theory a little wider, the eruption could have raised ocean temperatures, which melted sea ice, which quickly cooled the oceans. Beautiful symmetry.
Well, yes, if the "experts" are baffled then CERTAINLY normies wouldn't have clue! Right? Oh the psychologist effects of using the term "experts" really does a number of folks.
Sharon, if you can figure out how to direct message me in SubStack (I tried to message you, but couldn’t figure it out, though I have done it in the past), do so &! Will f/u on your interest in being a poll watcher. If not, here is my email: rgrkimber@gmail.com
I do love asking people that raise climate concerns if they’ve heard of Hunga Tonga! I golfed with an energy executive at PG&E Saturday. He’s working on innovative energy solutions to reduce carbon… never heard of it! I asked him if he thought that was odd given that we never stop talking about climate change here. We googled Hunga Tonga on the 5th tee box together. He didn’t have much to say after that.
next time ask him if he knows how much CO2 is in the atmosphere - most don't know that it amounts to a measly 4 one hundredths of 1%, which is tiny but the killer is that up to 95% is naturally occurring which there isn't much anyone can do about - then ask if he really believes that removing what amounts to a rounding error (1 one hundredth of 1%) wrt the composition of the atmosphere, of CO2 is really gong to have any effect on the climate - anyone with a brain will acknowledge that it is unlikely but those true believers will still claim that CO2 is the problem
Wasn't all the CO2 contained in trees the reason Gates was going to cut down all the trees and bury them so they didn't add to the rising heinous CO2 level? What a moronic concept!
Forbes has an article about it, "Chop down the forests to save the planet? Maybe not a crazy as it sounds." but it's behind a paywall.
When some highly credentialed individual or organization works to suppress an idea with the old chestnut "But we have not seen any evidence that...." experts (and all of us) would to well to remember that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Of course there is the willful refusal to look for evidence or to acknowledge evidence. While not actively lying, this refusal is nevertheless a deliberate act of deception with the same intent to mislead and manipulate.
Well, I happened to be sitting here eating breakfast when C&C popped up, so I was super quick this morning. But don’t despair, there’s another chance tomorrow. 😉😀
The scientists at the time that volcano erupted said it would probably raise our global temperatures for at least five years. There was so much water vapor and nowhere for it to go. The ocean cooling is definitely fascinating!
I remember! And they also said that the rise in ocean temps caused the air temps to go up… water vapor in the atmosphere. But scientists are still baffled.
I was thinking of the volcano and also wondering about the shifting sections in the Atlantic. I can't remember what was happening with them, though. Anyone? Anyone?
I’m wondering if the cooling of the Atlantic has anything to do with the Hunga Tonga volcano Jeff told us about in 2022. It increased the water temp significantly when it happened - 2 degrees I think I remember - so could it just be adjusting back to normal now? I know the volcano was in the Pacific and this is the Atlantic, but the article said it raised ocean temps worldwide.
On those lines, to expand your theory a little wider, the eruption could have raised ocean temperatures, which melted sea ice, which quickly cooled the oceans. Beautiful symmetry.
Yes! You mean, like… nature being nature? Ebbs and flows, synchronicity.
exactly.
And yet the "experts are baffled" I'm thinking maybe the dumbing down of society has been going on longer than we thought. Just saying.
"Experts are baffled" about where they will get their next research grant now that "boiling oceans" are looking like a dead end.
Yes! See my comment above for more dumbing…..
Huzzah! A reemergence of the "Snowball Earth" global cooling fear-porn psy-op garbage-science I witnessed in the mainstream news of the 1970s.
Well, yes, if the "experts" are baffled then CERTAINLY normies wouldn't have clue! Right? Oh the psychologist effects of using the term "experts" really does a number of folks.
Homeostasis is wonderful
The symmetry comes from NATURE - humankind didn't 'interfere' in this scenario!
Sharon, if you can figure out how to direct message me in SubStack (I tried to message you, but couldn’t figure it out, though I have done it in the past), do so &! Will f/u on your interest in being a poll watcher. If not, here is my email: rgrkimber@gmail.com
I am e-mailing you RIGHT NOW, Roger!!
I do love asking people that raise climate concerns if they’ve heard of Hunga Tonga! I golfed with an energy executive at PG&E Saturday. He’s working on innovative energy solutions to reduce carbon… never heard of it! I asked him if he thought that was odd given that we never stop talking about climate change here. We googled Hunga Tonga on the 5th tee box together. He didn’t have much to say after that.
next time ask him if he knows how much CO2 is in the atmosphere - most don't know that it amounts to a measly 4 one hundredths of 1%, which is tiny but the killer is that up to 95% is naturally occurring which there isn't much anyone can do about - then ask if he really believes that removing what amounts to a rounding error (1 one hundredth of 1%) wrt the composition of the atmosphere, of CO2 is really gong to have any effect on the climate - anyone with a brain will acknowledge that it is unlikely but those true believers will still claim that CO2 is the problem
I don’t understand peoples problems with trees. Trees photosynthesize oxygen. Do they not like breathing?
Wasn't all the CO2 contained in trees the reason Gates was going to cut down all the trees and bury them so they didn't add to the rising heinous CO2 level? What a moronic concept!
Forbes has an article about it, "Chop down the forests to save the planet? Maybe not a crazy as it sounds." but it's behind a paywall.
YES...and Billy Boy is a RABID SOCIOPATH AND EUGENECIST!
Do you have any references for your co2 info? Would love to have it handy!!
visit the CO2 Coalition web site
Plants take in CO2 to grow. They grow with the C (carbon) and breathe out the O2 (oxygen). We need plants for oxygen and plants need us for carbon.
Maybe throw in that zero of Al Gore’s predictions came true from his “documentary movie”
That’s the way to have the convo.
So.....he was baffled!
Suddenly and unexpectedly!!
😂
LOL
LOVE IT, Dan - good show!!
I’m wondering how many times “experts” have been “baffled” since the existential threat of global cooling became global warming became climate change.
I'm starting to think the "experts" live in a constant state of "bafflement"!!
You could almost say the definition of being an expert requires them having a certain percentage of bafflement time 😑
Isn't "bafflement" a box to check on the DEI page of a resume?
Or cognitive dissonance
What I really don’t understand is how can anyone trust an “expert “ that is constantly baffled.
Amen!
I'm bout ready to identify as an expert
Do it! I identify as sane...
When some highly credentialed individual or organization works to suppress an idea with the old chestnut "But we have not seen any evidence that...." experts (and all of us) would to well to remember that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Of course there is the willful refusal to look for evidence or to acknowledge evidence. While not actively lying, this refusal is nevertheless a deliberate act of deception with the same intent to mislead and manipulate.
Yes!
🎯
Or since autism and type 2 diabetes have exploded. Just… baffled.
Well, those are obviously caused by climate change. I say that in jest. But everything imaginable is being attributed to climate change. By "experts".
Mathematical interpretation:
If > in expert bafflement, then > in research funding.
🤣 Perfect proof of the baffle factor.
Agreed. Oceanic circulation is global.
Thank you. I am a massage therapist, not a scientist, so wasn’t 100% sure about that, although it makes sense.
I was going to get on here and say this very thing! You beat me to it.
Well, I happened to be sitting here eating breakfast when C&C popped up, so I was super quick this morning. But don’t despair, there’s another chance tomorrow. 😉😀
The scientists at the time that volcano erupted said it would probably raise our global temperatures for at least five years. There was so much water vapor and nowhere for it to go. The ocean cooling is definitely fascinating!
I remember! And they also said that the rise in ocean temps caused the air temps to go up… water vapor in the atmosphere. But scientists are still baffled.
I was thinking the same thing.
A common sense thought, but common sense has gone bye bye in recent years. :)
I’ve thought the same.
I thought the same thing.
Interesting. Forgot about that.
plus the dying of the coral reefs, I think have something to do with ocean temps. However, lol, I am not an expert.
In Hawaii they outlawed some sunscreens because the sunscreens were killing the reefs.
That's EXACTLY the premise I proposed to myself this morning - glad to see there are others "following the critical thinking 'dots'"!!
Cooling doesn’t meet the “Green new scam”…https://theconversation.com/tongas-volcanic-eruption-could-cause-unusual-weather-for-the-rest-of-the-decade-new-study-shows-231074
I was thinking of the volcano and also wondering about the shifting sections in the Atlantic. I can't remember what was happening with them, though. Anyone? Anyone?
I don’t remember that, but it certainly an intriguing concept.
Of course it does