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shayne's avatar

In the 80's in NZ, my doctor told me, no vaccines for babies before 3 months. Here in the US, our doctor almost tore a stip off me when I didn't have our kids vaccinated in the hospital after they were born. I waited 3 months. I thought his head was going to explode. I walked out and never went back.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Doc was counting on those sweet, sweet Big Pharma kickbacks.

(The Chris Craft's not paying for itself.)

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WIMomof3's avatar

Literally. My pediatrician neighbor had a big shiny new boat in her driveway shortly after the launch of the covid vaxx. Thanks Pfizer!

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daverkb's avatar

I've been wondering for a long time this. Why during the C19 Terror Campaign was Oz and NZ the most totalitarian of all places ... or so it seems, with extreme responses more extreme than all of the states in the US save a few like New York, California, Massachusetts, etc.

It was real bad in the West, but the Aussies and New Zealanders seemed 'over the top'. Am I wrong? If not, what accounts for this?

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Fla Mom's avatar

And Canada, too. All have the history of being subjects, not citizens. We think we're alike, but stubborn liberty-loving Americans have, so far held out, though we've retreated quite a bit.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

I think your first sentence is spot on!

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Based Florida Man's avatar

It was really strange how Oz and Nz went full totalitarian.

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shayne's avatar

The Prime Minister then, Jacinda Ardern, was all in for the WEF. She was awful. A previous PM, Helen Clark, who now works for the UN, was her mentor. I couldn't believe how badly NZers and Aussies were treated by their governments. In NZ it was jab or job, everyone had to have the covid shot or they lost their jobs. I have a wonderful friend who now has aggressive cancer because she was forced to take it. I had planned a trip home in early 2020, before covid, but had to cancel because to get in the country, every incoming flight of people had to spend 2 weeks in quarantine being tested almost every day. Once out of quarantine, the government required visitors to check in on an ap while in country. The people of NZ HATE Jacinda Ardern.

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daverkb's avatar

Glad to hear that and also to know that Jacinda got bounced out. I consider the Collective West to be nothing more than a totalitarian police state. It's human tragedy pure and simple. (thanks for the info)

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TiredCitizen's avatar

They were the test countries along with China.

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Danielle's avatar

Because they could. We have fewer legislated freedoms than the US. Also both were the perfect test and study areas. No land borders with any other country. Could both be perfectly isolated.

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daverkb's avatar

Thanks. For sure, New Zealand and Australia were fiercely, intensely targeted. And it also may be that how the population is densely concentrated which makes for an easier managed targeting.

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shayne's avatar

There's just over 5 million people in NZ. Auckland, Wellington and Christchurch are the main centers. Auckland now has about 1.4 million people, but the rest of the country is mildly populated. It's not as dense as it may seem. Loads of farms, small towns and beach communities. Many retired people fled the cities for their beach properties during covid. Compare the land size with say, Japan or Britain and their populations, NZ's population is small by comparison.

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