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Based Florida Man's avatar

It was supposed to be a battle against the pandemic to protect the people.

It became a battle against the people to protect the pandemic.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

T-shirt or bumper sticker!

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

Tshirt please. In several colors.

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Canny Granny's avatar

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Katherine's avatar

"Medical Freedom" for BOTH Patients and Doctors is the most important issue of our times!

If doctors are forced to watch their patients DIE, because the hospital or that devil Fouci, or FDA, or or some idiot Governor, refuses to let them use Ivermectin, or HCQ or even Vitamin C, for God's sake, what kind of dystopian madness are we living through?!

(Dr. Paul Marik of the FLCCC, the most published Intensivist ever, I believe. His story is horrifying and the poor man still has PTSD from it, seems to me.)

And if any human being cannot choose what is and is not being injected into them or their children, they have NO Right to Life, Liberty or the Pursuit of Happiness, because all vaccines are capable of destroying those three Rights.

I suggest that everyone consider the work of Dr. David Ayoub, (Beyond Thimerosal, on Rumble or Odyssey,) Dr. Sherri Tenpenny, James Lyons Weiler's study of Dr. Paul Thomas's pediatric practice, and the Control Group Litigation's Suvey Study of the vaccinated vs the unvaccinated. Also J.B. Handley's "How to End the Autism Epidemic," and "How Science Lost it's Soul with Autism," by Ken Heckenlively.

Vaxxed l and Vaxxed ll, and all the information from Del Bigtree and the HighWire.

We have a situation where 1/2 of American children are chronically ill, 2/3rds are suffering from anxiety or depression, and 1 in 36 is autistic.

(BTW, Autism spectrum and gender disphoria often go hand in hand, and there is a good argument that it is also a vaccine injury.)

These are catastrophic numbers that will inevitably destroy our nation if it survives the current disaster intentionally created, it appears to me, to break the National State and push us towards a One World Order.

If you would save our nation, help to move people into the Public Eye who will call all the perpetrators out; for that reason

I highly recommend everyone read at least the last chapter of "The Real Anthony Fouci," and mull over the ideas he presents.

We have more than pHarma to face and will need everyone in God's Army to face down this force that has swept across our Nation and the world.

Getting all the OCEAN of money corrupting our political system out post "Citizens United" is another required act, given the situation we are in.

For my part I say:

God Bless all the Truth Tellers, and all the Peacemakers, for they shall be called the Sons and Daughters of God.

Kennedy does not believe perpetual war on humans or viruses is the way to prop up our economy.

And personally I support him, even as a Republican, because ideology matters much less to me than intelligence and moral courage- the kind that makes you take on issues that can destroy a great career in that which you love, just because you know something that is horrible- the level of vaccine injured in our Nation's children, cannot "unknow" it, and Must Do Something, given the truths involved.

Additionally, as a women who has experienced things no man every has or will, I additionally support choice, in the first trimester. So there is that as well.

Difficult topics require thoughtfulness and compassion, not just lockstep ideologies. And watching society dragged, pushed and screaming into utterly insane extremes just shows you that the people in charge are not looking for harmony, peacefulness or reason, but sow division so that they may profit from the ensuing chaos. Let's get smart to that tactic now.

Finally, I was impressed when DeSantis chose Ladapo in Florida. Could we not continue to recruit and push forward the kinds of individuals who will tell the truth, even at high cost to themselves? That is the type of human being I want in my Government, at every single level!

If we could accomplish it, can you imagine the world we would see?

So for me privately, I'm all in for this idea of Jeff's to multiply a man who has been telling truth to power his entire life.

PS- the environmental work he has done also is something I care deeply about, having grown up in the Adirondacks with much first hand experience with the pollution of our waters in New York and my respect for Water Keepers, the world wide organization he helped form is huge.

If you like to fish or hunt, think about it. Florida is different, without large scale industry like the Northeast but the Adirondacks get hit from all sides, Detroit and the Great Lakes' dirty air Canadian industrial pollution and New York City/New Jersey air pollution as well. Our lakes in that region are going sterile from the acid rain, and there's so much mercury in the fish in many of the ones that still have them that they're dangerous for children to eat.

That's not the world I think we should be creating... our Creator expects better, from us.

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GenEarly's avatar

"Of course, RFK Jr has no chance to get the nomination" just as Trump had no chance in 2016.

Then as "The Party" sees RFK Jr could win the nomination ... Do they "Bernie Sanders" him??? or Join/ infiltrate him to defeat Trump??? Bolshevik democRats will flip the ENTIRE VaXXX Scam on Trump, while Absolving Biden's VaXXX Mandates. Commies are very Cunning, Comrades.

Is RFK Jr a Commie??? I think Not, neither was JFK, but they "Deep Stated" JFK and neither Trump or RFK Jr. are immune if the Deep Statist decide it's the only way "Forward" here in the USSA.

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CMCM's avatar

I do believe RFK knows exactly what he's up against. He knows what was done to RFK and his father. They have been after him for a long time because of his views on dangerous vaccines in general. And I'm sure they will try to ruin him because he would not go along with their evil plans.

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AngelaK's avatar

I thank God he opened my eyes to the dangerous plethora of todays childhood vaccine protocol since I now have a grandbaby. I followed him on Instagram where he had many, many young anti covid vaxx followers.

Instagram soon cancelled him and his account was removed by them.

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Monterey's avatar

We never thought our society would become this communistic as to 'disappear' people who were speaking truth in the face of lies--

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Help Needed in KS's avatar

"If doctors are forced to watch their patients DIE, "....sorry, did these doctors have guns at their heads? Yes, they were threatened with loss of license and their livelihood, but they decided to choose $$ over the health of their patients, that's the bottom line. They chose money & murder over the lives of others. Just my opinion.

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Katherine's avatar

Get to know the information- a doctor cannot use a drug, in hospital, if that hospital forbids it's use. Literally. Like they lock it up. He quit. He has sued. He has lost in our corrupt court system which places corporations above human beings in ruling after ruling.

Follow Dr. Paul Marik on FLCCC and their social media platforms. He is the finest man imaginable. He took so much heat his wife left him, but still he fought back every way he could.

Get to know what actually happened. And then DO something about the wickedness that caused it- we are at "all hands on deck" right now!

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CStone's avatar

Thank you for this info.

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Joy sister's avatar

agreed. Nurses too. Those brave medical folks who stood for medical freedom and lost their jobs deserve more credit than those who caved and even shamed others. Many doctors are conditioned to just follow pharma's orders. They know where their $$ comes from. Shameful.

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P Flournoy's avatar

What are you talking about? Many doctors were kicked out of the hospitals they worked in because they tried to help their patients with Ivermectin and other off label meds.

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CStone's avatar

But many complied, and a great many died because of them.

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David A's avatar

Unfortunately he fully supports the fallacy of Climate Change, run by the same WEF globalists that ran global Covid policy, for the same totalitarian reasons.

While recognizing that the merger of international businesses with government is a bad idea, he thinks businesses are the problem, not government. His failure to recognize human nature, codified in law as government, as ever and always enabling evil power over others, is fatal.

Yes, he may split the democratic vote, yet I cannot support a big government democrat, and he is that. The foolish ā€œThis time it will be different ā€œ is just that, foolish.

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Truth Serum's avatar

Have you listened to any of his interviews on the Defender? he's pretty clear headed about the REAL environmental issues that should concern everyone and differentiates between these and the WEF agenda to which he is opposed. Check your sources before posting.

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David A's avatar

I have read HIS book on Global Warming, and seen many of his articles. As he profoundly thinks CO2 is a pollutant, do you have any contrary evidence that he does not?

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Steve's avatar

Hi David,

Listen to RFK’s interview with Dane Wigington from GeoEngineering Watch.

https://spotify.link/0PbDV6U2Nyb

RFK is waking up to the ā€œtruthā€ about the ā€œrealā€ climate change. In addition, watch the video ā€œThe Dimmingā€ if you haven’t already. Feel free to take pot-shots at my suggesting it…having another person wake-up to this reality is worth the potential shaming should you decide to go that route.

https://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/ (Click on the video ā€œThe Dimmingā€ for a real eye opener).

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August's avatar

I’ve listened to him. I still don’t trust him, for the same reason cited by David. RFK JR is a Big Government guy. He’s the prototypical Elitist, how could he not be? Born with a sliver spoon, has never had to worry about money or being heard. I don’t doubt he has good qualities and perhaps even good intentions.

Finally, his membership in The Fabian Society should give one pause.

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Truth Serum's avatar

Proof about the Fabian Society membership? Where's your source?

He's a lawyer and I find him pretty down to earth. Yes, he comes from an illustrious family but he's definitely deeply invested in democracy and exposing the rampant corruption that is plaguing the US and the world right now.

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AJ#2's avatar

The Highwire is a great show. I just do it at 1.5 speed.Also if you don't know there are some great white papers and resources on vaccines on the site.I do not find the site super easy to navigate BTW so always open to tips.

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Tracy F's avatar

Abortion is taking another life. Can’t agree with you on that one but agree 100% on medical freedom. It just can’t include taking another life

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Katherine's avatar

Were you ever a week or two late, after sexual relations?

(For women only!)

If so most likely a child just died and a funeral should be held, by the "life begins at conception" standard.

We should think about our natural responses in that situation I believe.

The studies I've read showed that virtually every matriarchal society in history had herbal remedies to bring a woman's period, if need be, and that only the more aggressive patriarchal societies limited or forbid birth control, female sexuality, and a woman's legal rights including abortion or bringing her period when overdue.

PhD James DeMeo's "Saharasia" is great book on the differences between the them for anyone interested.

However I understand some people truly believe that even an egg fertilized for one second is a person, and yet others truly believe that life begins when you draw your first breath.

I myself believe both are positions are unreasonable, that until the baby "quickens" a women should be able to terminate a pregnancy and also that it is not to be done lightly, or by minors without a parent's knowledge.

I understand that others disagree and I myself am happy that many states are placing limits on abortion as it was taken vastly too far by the extremists. But as a women who has experienced things no man ever will, and who has a firm understanding of biology, I want "choice" to be legal and safe for myself and for my daughter as well.

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

I applaud you for thinking for yourself and avoiding the current pro-abortion trend of pushing to keep all abortions legal no matter what the circumstances.

Keeping "quickening" as the point at which a life is considered started and not to be ended seems kind of odd, though. Quickening is an ancient standard, dating to days when we didn't have any better tests. It's a vague standard - a woman who is carrying an extra 60 pounds might never feel a child kick - it happened to a family member of mine. These days it would make more sense to try to time things by when the child's consciousness starts (when brain waves can be measured). That's around 6 weeks after conception (8 weeks after the first missed period). But for political expediency, if I was in charge, I'd abortions freely available for 13 weeks after conception, with carefully crafted exceptions after that.

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Katherine's avatar

I agree with 1st trimester as the standard. Later is something else, but physicians call any pregnancy loss before 20 weeks a miscarriage and after 20 weeks a still birth. There are many rather arbitrary standards however I chose "quickening" because it is a standard that has been around for a very long time.

And does roughly correspond to the first 12 or 13 weeks. I do agree that we have much superior techniques to determine how far along a woman is and we should certainly utilize these advances in science today.

My point was more that older civilizations came to basically the same judgement as our Supreme Court originally did- 1st trimester it's the woman's bodily autonomy that matters. Later on there is a baby to consider also.

And for that reason I and all the women I am close to accept the same basic standard: yes, in the first, special circumstances in the second, and never in the third, except to save the life of the mother or if the child has died.

Women create life, with the help of a man, but it is her life at risk every time she conceives and it is usually the woman, even today, that will raise the child she has brought into the world. Choice is something I believe is necessary, given those truths, and many others as well.

And most people do understand this is not a black or white issue.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Yes, ā€œdifficult topics require thoughtfulness and compassion, not just lockstep ideologies.ā€ Ideologies push for conformity. Decentralized, personal decision-making is the best reflection of ā€œthoughtfulness and compassion.ā€

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OJen's avatar

šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘

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daiva's avatar

It's structurally hateful & raycist & transphobic to say so. Somehow šŸ¤”

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

BFM, you forgot the quotes.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

🤭

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OnTheJump's avatar

Twitter CAN be awesome

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

That should DEF be a tee and bumper slogan--SPOT ON!!!

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Raptor's avatar

Oh my gosh that is the ultimate slogan for truth... For banner welcoming folks into the town of Realsville. Which seems right coming from BASED Florida man.

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richard's avatar

There was no pandemic. The disease was slightly worse than a typical flu season. You can just check the CDC for the death rates over the course of it. We had a slight uptick in May and June and it subsided.

Just because you were fooled doesn't mean everybody was. The reason there was censorship and constant, UNRELENTING propaganda, was to control you. We were not allowed to speak.

This has always been a war against the population.

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Canny Granny's avatar

I’d buy one, BFM!

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Marsali S.'s avatar

One of your best!

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Don’t Forget's avatar

Kennedy is a champion of the Constitution (and an enemy and mortal threat to the deep deep state). He can likely rally ā€œWe The Peopleā€ from every party.

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RandiG's avatar

I agree. Let’s multiply him! He exposed Fauci before it was en vogue!!

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Martha's avatar

For some of us, it is too early to make a decision about multiplying...

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Jason's avatar

I don't want Kennedy in the White House, I want him in the primary.

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luellen l's avatar

I agree. I'm seriously considering changing my party affiliation to Independent so I can vote for him in the primaries!

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Mary Rhode's avatar

I agree, what is his position on life? I can not vote for a pro abortion candidate. I would not support a multiplier for him.

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Credenda's avatar

Yep, if he is pro abortion, pro lgbt special rights and hates fossil fuels and believes in global warming, I’ll pass.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Bobby Kennedy, Jr. is a DEVOUT CATHOLIC--there's no way he would be "pro abortion". He still accepts the Bible as the Holy and Wholly Inspired Word of God.

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DS's avatar

Resident Biden and Nancy Pelosi both claim to be DEVOUT CATHOLIC'S also. How devout are any of them? The Bible is very clear on abortion.

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Donna Ruth's avatar

Sorry. He is pro-abort. Read his bio. His parents and grandparents were devout Catholics.

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Surviving the Billionaire Wars's avatar

Abortion is a state issue, not federal. It's out of the President's jurisdiction.

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Surviving the Billionaire Wars's avatar

Abortion is now a state issue, not federal.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

TRUE. Good point

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JW's avatar

If he were to switch to being a republican, maybe I would be behind him otherwise a democrat will always have democrats, whatever they are, behind him and no way Jose. I wish him well though, smart man.

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ljgrady's avatar

Not so sure that the Republican's are on the best track for this country either. Perhaps a better track, but the "best"??? It is a shame that we have to live within a 2 party system. I like the scenario that if RFK, Jr. doesn't make it as the Democratic Candidate he can switch over to Independent...then lets see all the Non-voters come out of the woodwork! I like Ron DeSantis, but there is much he still needs to experience in order to lead this Country. RFK, Jr. is the best option for these difficult times in my opinion.

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STH's avatar

I need to know more. But he would likely get my vote? We will never have a candidate that we agree on absolutely everything. Priorities I guess.

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OnTheJump's avatar

He participates in many interviews - and is always worth a listen.

YouTube, Rumble are easiest sources to locate him.....or, of course, childrenshealthdefense.org

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Truth Serum's avatar

Read The Real Anthony Fauci. You'll be sold. RFK Jr has ethics and integrity which is unfortunately rare in our politicians these days. He's articulate, thoughtful, compassionate and wants to dismantle this corrupt P3 entity that has been put in place by the globalists. There will be a lot of hit pieces on them; even more than there are already. But the truth is the truth and as more people are suffering from deaths from the jabs as well as adverse reactions this could well be more than a fissure to crack the censorship/propaganda that's been put into place these last 3 years.

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OnTheJump's avatar

He is a man of Integrity, and a Man of the People.

Someone to be trusted.

Not many like THAT queuing up.

Now - or ever.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I have asked several medical professionals who work in VA health care if they have read Robert F. Kennedy's book on Fauci.

They have no idea what I am talking about.

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Truth Serum's avatar

Most MDs do not even read medical research but I would insist that they read the book.

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CStone's avatar

Most MDs won’t even read the insert in the poisonous shots they give to babies, much less the flu/pneumonia/shingles shots.

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Peter GL's avatar

We bought the book back in December to support him, but it is too big and boring to read. Everything I need to know about Fauci I already know!

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Monica's avatar

I read that book in a week. Only the first chapter put me off. I proceeded to 2nd chapter and raced through to the end.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

It is a tough read.

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KBB's avatar

I found it a tough read only because I kept throwing it across the room every few pages, enraged at what it said. In the end it is well worth the effort, just take a break from time to time to allow your blood pressure to return to normal.

I don't support an RFK Jr multiplier, too much D in his DNA. Love his work on vaccines and the environment and look forward to his primary debate with Biden, but I could never vote for him because of his position on other issues.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Agree. I was getting pretty pissed off as I was reading the book.

How did we allow a serial murderer (Fauci) get away with his death and destruction for 40 years?

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Matthew Witt's avatar

What are the other issues? Thanks.

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Truth Serum's avatar

You should read the book. I read it in 4 days on the pdf then read it a second time. It's not boring at all. It's compelling and shocking and will change your thinking about many things. The part of HIV completely changed how I thought about it---that's mid-way in the book. Deep and insightful.

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CMCM's avatar

Why does this NOT surprise me?

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🫣

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Very important to get the truth about the covid bioweapon out.

The normies will have explody heads.

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Peter šŸ”’'s avatar

Despite the 750+ Citations, I had someone tell me "It's his Opinion". Holy cow

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

His book is extremely well documented.

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Steve's avatar

It can only help conservatives with RFK in the race. He’ll definitely split some Donkey votes when he doesn’t get the nomination and runs as an independent. Do it!

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Steve's avatar

Yes…do it El-Jeffe’ do it..!!!!

Fist bump šŸ‘Š

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Paula's avatar

How about we not multiply anyone who seeks to change or do away with any of our rights. He's using "for the children" propaganda to change or take away our 2A.

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Emil's avatar

Kennedy is strong in all the places Trump was weak: deep state and vaccines. He will broaden the political conversation, and in the end, strengthen Trump (by educating him!). And I love his slogan, ā€œFreedom First.ā€

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Not exactly. Trump was strong on illegal immigration 'build the wall' but RFK thinks it's racist to deny any border jumper.

And RFK says black guys are in jail simply because of racism, not that from being far more violent than say hispanic or asians (why aren't they in jail if it's just racism?).

On and on with this guy. Very marxist.

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Agent 1-4-9's avatar

Funny how someone can dodge the propaganda in one area (vaccines) and fall for it in another (global warming). I couldn't see myself voting for Kennedy in the general election, but I can definitely see supporting him in the primaries. I think he will be focused solely on vaccine damage and it will help get that message out.

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Martha's avatar

"Funny how someone can dodge the propaganda in one area (vaccines) and fall for it in another (global warming)."

Exactly ~ šŸ¤¦ā€ā™€ļø. However, based on recent long interviews, he is very aware of the Deep State and will be more than a one issue candidate. His own party will go after him, so it could be very interesting.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Hillary is planning his demise right now.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

LMAO. She needs to just stop and realize her political life is over!

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Jason's avatar

An unfortunate accident.......

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Agent 1-4-9's avatar

She was deeply sorry to hear about his recent suicide.

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Surviving the Billionaire Wars's avatar

His father & uncle were murdered by the deep state. How could he not be aware of the deep state?!?; 😳

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Martha's avatar

I think his definition of the Deep State has expanded far beyond the Military Industrial Complex/CIA...

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Peter GL's avatar

He claimed the election was stolen from Trump! The msm is already using this with the adjective of him spreading 'misinformation ' in order to undermine him.

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Martha's avatar

Hope it's true about the stolen election, but I can't find anything online supporting that claim. Do you have a link/source?

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daiva's avatar

The said 'funny' issue has a proper name, that of nobelist physicist Murray Gell-Mann aka the father of quarks 😊

šŸ—Ø Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray's case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. [...Y]ou read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know. ~~Michael Crichton (1942-2008)

epsilontheory.com/gell-mann-amnesia/

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Donna Ruth's avatar

Bad-a-boom!

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Steve's avatar

Here’s your man-made climate change. I heard RFK interview Dane from Geoengineering. You should have a listen if you want to know the truth about how ā€œmanā€ is actually responsible for climate change — only not in the manner in which it’s being sold to the public (CO-2 emissions).

Watch ā€œThe Dimmingā€ and then listen to RFK and DANE WIGINGTON discuss this topic on RFK’s podcast.

https://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/

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Andrea's avatar

Yes, heard and watched. Very good.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Absolutely. Furthermore, his efforts could go a long way to splitting the Dem base. Great tactic.

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Susan's avatar

Yes...the convo will be rich!!!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Like Berenson and ivermectin and also the 2020 election šŸ™„

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CuiBono?'s avatar

My thoughts exactly thank you.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Darn it with the truth! I was all ready to vote for him! I've never voted Dem but now again I have no where to go. Woe woe woe.... The third woe. I'm tired.

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Emil's avatar

He is an Issue candidate: Anti-Corporatism and Deep State, and Vaccine Awareness. I haven’t heard him talk open borders, but I can’t imagine someone could be for open borders and anti-Corporatism at the same time. Guess we’ll see.

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Canny Granny's avatar

Interesting. Thanks for the info. I didn’t know much about him except his vax stance, but figured he’d be liberal because of who he is.

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Credenda's avatar

He is very liberal but has common sense about some things. Still can’t get behind a radical environmentalist. He should stick to vaccines. He’s over his head in other areas. But the Kennedy name still carries weight.

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It's All a Journey's avatar

Don’t be so quick to write him off. He cares about ending the corporate (and government backed) destruction of the environment-- he wants to protect our water , air and land from destructive and toxic chemicals. He’s not pushing for WEF level climate BS , he is standing up against Big Corporations (and government) who don’t care about the little guy and have caused untold amounts of damage over decades to our water and other natural resources. He doesn’t talk out of one side of his mouth , he is very consistent when it comes to speaking out against the destruction that chemicals can do to our bodies, whether it be from vaccines or forever chemicals dumped into water by accountability-free corporations. Caring for our natural resources doesn’t have to be a hot button issue that keeps us polarized-- it can be something that everyone cares about. There is a huge difference between a WEF pushed climate agenda and being a responsible citizen and steward of our God-given earth. Just my two cents. Don’t be so quick to write him off because he ā€œcares about the environmentā€

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Natalie's avatar

I do care about the environment. That's why I'm against Green Energy. It is so destructive to the planet! I love what RFK has done in relation to water purity, but does he support wind and solar power and converting all autos to EVs?

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STH's avatar

Well said L T

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Lisa Ca's avatar

THIS is a different kind of environmemtalism. Interesting!

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Canny Granny's avatar

He seems likeable as a person and to have integrity to his OWN beliefs. The environmental stuff is scary, but if a democrat would win the presidency, I would certainly choose him over all other democrats.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Totally. He's a very good folk in general.

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Copernicus's avatar

I too used to dismiss many of the environmental concerns as overkill. But now I am pretty convinced that these are legitimate concerns. We're being harmed more than we realize, and the impacts are showing up as more and more chronic diseases in both adults and children. It didn't used to be this way.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

YES exactly. Him over other crazies

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Copernicus's avatar

Depends on your definition of liberal.

Liberal in the classic sense of free speech, free association, not oppressing the little guys just because you can (or for any other reasons of course), free debate, and so on.

Or liberal in the modern sense of no rules, now law, every man is right in his own eyes, and we can kill and maim as much as we want those who stand in the way of us getting what we want (eg, abortion, sexual perversion, no police, etc).

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Canny Granny's avatar

I know. I’m keeping an open mind.

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RunningLogic's avatar

The modern sense is more like liberally totalitarian!

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CMCM's avatar

I do wonder if RFK has visited Chicago lately, or Baltimore? Blacks killing blacks in record numbers. That has nothing to do with racism.

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David A's avatar

He will be far more overwhelmed by the deep state then Trump. That had to institute global Covid policy to stop Trump. There is a reason they fear Trump.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Um, Trump was weak on deep state? Really? I disagree

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Emil's avatar

He definitely gets the deep state problem. But he kept aligning himself with deep state people anyway. Bolton, McMaster, Haley, Wray, Milley, that Mad Dog general, etc. It was always an odd paradox to me. Next time around, I hope he will do better looking outside the beltway for his cabinet, because a lot of his inner circle did him no favors and were quick to throw him under the impeachment bus.

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If RFK was elected, unless he towed the leftist/democrat line he will not get much support from congress. And it's certain that most repubs love joey more than they will love RFK.

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Jason's avatar

I think he has the ability to topple Joe in the Primary.

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AngelaK's avatar

Sadly, he has an illness which compromises his voice..a blessed voice of reason. I have followed this man, and find his common sense so encouraging that it can only mean he is blessed by God

I feel that his blessed voice was attacked by the devil for that reason.

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Monica's avatar

He suspects it was an influenza vaccine that took his voice out at age 44. I forgot medical terminology but it is a vax side effect.

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Mary's avatar

Have you heard him recently? His voice is healed.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Wow. This is profound and insightful.

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Canny Granny's avatar

Are you speaking of Congress or the population in general and do you think this Is because Bobby would not go along with all their plans?

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Emumundo's avatar

He knows that CIA killed his dad and his uncle. He’s pretty brave to run.

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Kim's avatar

RFK Jr. was interviewed by Dr. Mercola a week or so ago which I listened to. That was one of the questions brought up by Dr. Mercola. RFK Jr. obviously understands the risk and wants only to bring light to the vaccine issue. My perception was that he knew he wouldn't be the democratic nominee. His run might bring some much needed light to the msm and NPR readers and listeners unless they ignore him like they did Alan Keyes run for presidency a few years back.

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Raptor's avatar

Well, he IS married to Cheryl Hines so it may not be bravery, but simple desperation.

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I agree about him being brave to run. What Dr. Madhava Setty experienced in conversation with Dr. Katie Attwell (a pro-vax Australian) at the World Vaccine Conference this week is telling that Big Pharma will work hard to silence RFK and they have the pocketbook to do so. He shouldn't be nearly as worried about The Clinton's taking him out as he should be about what Pharma would do as they are only interested in silencing him. The below excerpt is from The Defender article https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/world-vaccine-congress/?

Dr. Setty: ā€œSo,ā€ I said, ā€œthe number one disinformation spreader may be running for President of the United States. What do you think should be done?ā€

Dr. Attwell: She smiled uncomfortably and said, ā€œYes, it’s going to be hard to keep him from getting oxygen.ā€

Dr. Setty: In other words, her proposed approach to suffocate the anti-vax spokespersons becomes much harder when they are running for the highest office in the land. I thought she might be willing to reconsider her strategy. She wasn’t.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

He's for open borders, cranking up your taxes for BS green agendas, and a banning of gas cars and cheap energy. Loves him some BLM.

We love his vaccine stance and position that elections are fraudulant. But that's about it.

See more on his site:

https://rfkhumanrights.org/our-core-causes/mass-incarceration

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LuAnne's avatar

I wonder how well he'll be able to speak clearly & effectively. He suffers from spasmodic dysphonia. I've listened to him many times and I'll admit, it can be a challenge to listen to him. It doesn't seem to stop him in any way. I would rather listen to Kennedy than our current incoherent vegetable-in-chief.

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Cheryl Caraglior's avatar

Loved "vegetable-in-chief."

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RunningLogic's avatar

But I feel bad for the poor vegetables we are insulting by calling him that šŸ˜›

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FourWinds's avatar

"Vegetable-in-chief" LOL! Love it!

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Mary's avatar

I heard him interviewed recently. His voice is healed.

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VanLife Views's avatar

LuAnne I thought about that right away

It’s so hard to listen to him screech out a talk. I’m amazed he can actually still talk. I kept thinking over the past two years I would see him do sign language next.

My X FIL has that issue and I think he has to get regular Botox shots or something.

He looses his voice completely and then a day later all good for 3 months

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AngelaK's avatar

😄😄😄

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dar's avatar

LuAnne, please take note, that in the name of cabbages&co everywhere, we protest!

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Michael Miller's avatar

Even though I disagree with many of his positions, it is a huge plus to have a dem candidate with integrity and favoring freedom. Name one other dem candidate who personifies this?

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Michael Miller's avatar

I have one! Tulsi Gabbard.

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JJ's avatar

She is no longer a dem.

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Michael Miller's avatar

I believe she is socialist. Same thing.

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AngelaK's avatar

AND THIS: https://abc7ny.com/robert-f-kennedy-jr-is-running-for-president-2024-election/13092282/

Kennedy has appeared at events pushing the lie that the 2020 presidential election was stolen and with people who cheered or downplayed the insurrection at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

A photo posted on Instagram showed Kennedy backstage at a July 2021 Reawaken America event with former President Donald Trump's ally Roger Stone, former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn and anti-vaccine profiteer Charlene Bollinger. All three have promoted the lie about the 2020 election being stolen.

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Just so you know, Based--this is a foundation dedicated to the "memory" of ROBERT F. KENNEDY--the assassinated Dad of RFK, Jr. and former Attorney General under his brother, JFK. This is NOT the position or group founded by RFK, Jr. Here's a link to HIS group! https://childrenshealthdefense.org/

BTW...most of the Kennedy family is actually chagrined at Bobby, Jr.'s stance on vaccines and corporate medicine policy controlling our "health".

I, myself, am taking a "wait and see" attitude about his campaign for the Democratic nomination. It will be very, very interesting.

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MarianneK's avatar

Yes. The Kennedy family regard RFK, Jr as the "black sheep" of the family I have heard him say. I look forward to the spotlight on vaccines he'll bring to the discussion. The Media will not be able to avoid covering it.

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It’s one way they’ll try to slander him.

It’s started already… they’ll say his own family doesn’t agree with him.

ā€œHe emerged as one of the leading voices in the anti-vaccine movement, and his work has been described by public health experts and even members of his own family as misleading and dangerous.ā€œ

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Think about what the covid vaccines did to a lathe percent of American families… it divided them into vaxxed and non vaxxed groups. That’s not special to the Kennedy’s!!

That’s a result of the fact that the science on vaccines is FAR from settled.

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I used to be a dem. I lived in Iowa most of my life. In 2008 I registered republican and caucused for Ron Paul. I didn't agree with a lot of his platform, but much of it I did. I wasn't planning to vote for him but wanted his mostly sane and logical voice to be heard by democrats. Republicans supporting Kennedys run is little different.

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I caucused for Ron Paul too. I was living in WA state at the time. Holy moly was I ever hated at the table I sat at. Should have prepared me for the hate I would get in 2020.

I'm glad RFK Jr. has decided to run. Maybe some D's will be persuaded by truth if they can hear it mostly unfiltered. However, there is zero chance that I will vote for him (Not that they count real votes anyway).

I am seriously sick of holding my nose and voting for the lesser of the evils. But what sane person would run for president in this day? Down is up in a big way.

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That site has nothing to do with RFKjr . That is a foundation created in his father’s name , run by his relatives -- that is not Bobby Kennedy Jr’s site or organization . In fact, all those people in that organization try and distance themselves from Bobby because he doesn’t tow their line. Don’t get caught up in misinformation.

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Shawn Pitcher's avatar

Quick inspection shows that this is not "his" site. C'mon Man.

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Carolyn Brouillard's avatar

Seems he's also going with the climate change hoax. But I would love to see him as a Democratic candidate.

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Anne Clifton's avatar

Wrong RFK. From the site: "WHO WE ARE: Led by human rights lawyer and activist Kerry Kennedy, our team of attorneys, issue experts, advocates, entrepreneurs, and writers is united by a commitment to realize Robert Kennedy’s dream of a more just and peaceful world."

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Natalie's avatar

I believe Kerry Kennedy has disavowed RFK's views.

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Anne Clifton's avatar

She's disavowed RFK Jr.'s views. The website seems to be dedicated to his father, who was assassinated. RFK Jr. has stated that his family is not in agreement with his views on vaccines.

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Martha's avatar

Just to clarify: This organization is run by RFK, Jr.'s sister, Kerry. It is said that she has removed/altered some content at her brother's request, which means the site's contents are representative of his views.

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Kalinda's avatar

Isn't this link to an RFK SENIOR site? Founder Ethel Kennedy? That isn't RFK Junior.

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Jackie J's avatar

This was all I needed to discern if I’d vote for him. Thank you.

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It's All a Journey's avatar

Please actually realize that that the linked site has nothing to do with RFK JUNIOR-- that organization was created in honor of his father by KERRY Kennedy. Nothing to do with Bobby or his platform.

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BFM, I have to say, he does have a very good podcast. He has some very informative peeps on and I’ve learned a lot from him.

I do think he is running to raise awareness on very specific issues, which I think is brave. However, I wouldn’t want him in the WH.

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He is a champion of the ā€˜climate change’ crowd. He’s a democRAT. Why would anybody EVER vote for a democRAT after the last 15 years? Why?

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Johnny-O's avatar

Why would anyone vote for Mr Operation Warp Speed?

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Based Florida Man's avatar

The Jab goes on the negative column. So does mean tweets, and hiring deep state types.

On the positive column? Pro America, controlled immigration, make NATO pay it's own way, drill baby drill, on and on.

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I enjoyed the mean tweets...just like a bull in a china shop.

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Raptor's avatar

I thought he was a little too nice with "Sleepy Joe". C'mon man! That's the best you could come up with? Or "Low Energy Jeb"? OK that is true, but there are so many other shady aspects to hit on.

Politeness with thugs got us exactly nowhere. Electing polite-faced people who then stab their own people in the back because they are really a part of the uniparty (meaning a party who works only for the benefit of themselves and their bribers).

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Yes. Tweets allowed Trump to bypass Big Media. He was an expert at it.

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SA's avatar

You cannot be pro America and shut it down, green light a warp sped experimental medical product, and promote that harmful product for years.

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He shut down and warp speeded it on the advice of the heads of ALL medical associations and departments And in conjunction with other countries. His continuing love for the vax has to be addressed for sure. His base hates it. But he did not mandate it and has spoken out strongly against it. The lockdown was supposed to be a quick fix. But the deep state had other ideas.

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Trump didn't mandate the jab only because he wasn't in office when his "beautiful" vax was finally released.

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Johnny-O's avatar

His economy ranks worst of all modern presidents. Plenty of bad check marks

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

Ummm, to clean up Old Joe’s mess. Or give it an honest try anyway.

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Copernicus's avatar

Is he truly a climate change champion? I haven't researched. Speaking about the very real harms of environmental toxins does not equate to climate change proponent.

I would vote for him, if he was running against a RINO Republican. At least Bobby Kennedy understands and stands up for the Bill of Rights and our constitutional freedoms. Watch his interviews with Meghan Kelley.

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I totally agree and I am involved with the Republican Party at the local, district, and state level. I have never voted for a democrat on the national level, but I am thoroughly disgusted with RINO sell outs, think Mike Pence from a born and bred Hoosier!

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He had Dane Wiggington on recently to discuss geoengineering

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Kim's avatar

However, if he is pro-abortion, I will never vote for him! That is my first issue all others rank lower!

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Based Florida Man's avatar

I think you're right on his climate change issues - seems mostly about, corporate dumping and such. Not so much 'co2 from your tailpipe' type. It's actually hard to find good info on his positions.

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Is he pro choice? If so, that’s a hard NO for me on a multiplier.

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NAB's avatar

Absolutely pro-abortion (despite his Catholic faith, sadly).

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Credenda's avatar

Then he’s part of the problem. You can’t pretend to care about ā€œthe children, the children!ā€ and then be in favor of their destruction before birth. This is one multiplier I won’t ever support. Pragmatism cannot trump immorality.

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I never understand the disconnect. Some people simply can't, won't recognize the humanity of the unborn child because of....geography (a baby in the womb v. outside)?

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And it’s not even just their destruction before birth, nowadays they don’t even protect aborted alive children

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AngelaK's avatar

That is seriously above and beyond anything anyone can rationalize about abortion. That is infanticide.

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Johnny-O's avatar

But the purveyor of the poison death shot is worth supporting? Some of you make zero sense .

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CStone's avatar

YOU make no sense. Trump made the advantages of the use Ivermectin and HCQ known, he never MANDATED anything. He was surrounded and attacked for FIVE YEARS.

I would love to see what YOU would have done under the circumstances he was faced with.

You are a one-liner. It does make one wonder if you’re being paid to just harp on ONE line.

You dismiss EVERYthing else he accomplished. PLUS the fact that he woke

up a lot of people.

So tell us, one-liner, Johnny.

What if you were surrounded by enemies who were determined to take YOU down?

I’d be willing to bet you would be tucking your tail between your little legs and running home to your mommy. I doubt that there is another person, mam or woman, who could have accomplish what President Trump did in four years, being constantly, unceasingly under attack from the most evil, demonic people possible.

Tell us. What have you done in your life that could compare?

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I would be a true leader and stand up for truth and justice.

He didn't mandate the shots. Oh well, he only rolled them out and still brags about it. The cognitive dissonance amongst the die hard trump supporters is mind blowing.

Also doled out trillions, growing the deficit faster than any modern day POTUS. But yes, he's just a god send. Oh, and let's not forget the visits to Epstein child rape island.

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IMMORALITY (aka:premarital promiscuity)s a given in todays society, everywhere. Note that entertainment shows it as the norm, but unwanted pregnancy or birth control is never mentioned.

Sex outside of marriage is NEVER mentioned as being a sin.

We cannot fix abortion without fixing that first.

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Natalie's avatar

Do you have a link to that? Unfortunately, many, many Roman Catholics are pro-abortion, so I don't necessarily doubt it, but I'd like to see it for myself.

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Karen's avatar

Too many Catholics are "Catholic in name only". They find excuses to not follow clear Church teaching.

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You may not be aware of neonatal hospice? This is a compassionate alternative for families who are experiencing prenatal or neonatal death, that allows the infant to be born and the family to meet their child and spend time with him or her after birth.

Carrying a child with a devastating physical anomaly is deeply difficult. I cannot even imagine. But are we truly helping the grief when we then tell the mother that it's better that she allow an abortionist to rip her child limb from limb, to crush its skull, or - in the case of later stage abortion - to burn its skin with concentrated salt solution or stop its heart with a digoxin injection - than to offer the life-respecting alternative of neonatal hospice?

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I acknowledge the medical complexity of the example you cite, but it is also a simple issue in that, the baby even with that terrible condition, is still a human being. I am not saying it would be an easy thing to do and it would require strength and support on behalf of the mother, but killing that baby outright is just wrong. But here is the deal, the real pro-abortion zealots won't entertain ANY restrictions on abortion even though many pro-life people would consider an incremental approach to the issue. If you offered a similar ban which is currently in place in most of Europe, I think many pro-life people would welcome it but continue to fight for an outright ban. Pro-abortion advocates, however, refuse to even consider such a thing and that is how I know they are not serious about real solutions.

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Karen's avatar

Do you realize that 95% of prenatal diagnosis are incorrect? I was horrified when I heard that. And, no, the direct killing of innocent life is never warranted.

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Johnny-O's avatar

But Donnie the adulterer is all good, right? Supporting his run against Dems isn't full fledged support you know, right?

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

So it isn’t full-fledged support but why even do it? Why get a viable Democrat in place? I don’t want a Democrat, I don’t believe in what they believe in. Read their party platform.

And really, adulterer is the worst you can say about Trump, while the other side is purposefully ruining our country?

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Trump stands firm that nothing sexual took place between him & the porn female.

Hush $$$ is what individuals, businesses, etc. pay out to end attacks. It’s really extortion. Doesn’t matter if extortionist is a liar or truth teller. It pays to put the extortionist down & out. Happens all the time. How many corporations have paid off whistleblowers or lawsuits that threaten their brand?

How does one prove a negative? Such as I didn’t commence a one-night stand with a loose female....

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Johnny-O's avatar

Poison death shot? Worst economy of any modern president (although Biden will likely top that). Adulterer is the least bad thing he has done.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Totally based answer Johnny.

As Mark Twain noted, it's harder to convince people they've been conned than to con them in the first place.

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Donna Ruth's avatar

Stormy wrote in 2018 it had never happened.

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CMCM's avatar

Yes...I was about to say this too. But to these people persecuting Trump, the facts don't matter. Only their chosen narrative matters.

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Natalie's avatar

While I would love my president to be a saint, we already had that with Jimmy Carter, and you see where that led. God has used flawed characters throughout history, including adulterer King David. I do not equate Trump with David and don't know who I will vote for, but there are many different aspects to morality. George W. Bush seemed like a very moral man; yet he lied about the Iraq War and is responsible for the death of millions of people and the destruction of the Christian community in Iraq. So "morality" is a complicated issue when looking for a president. What I do know is that Trump's policies were the most pro-life of any president in history. By their fruits ye shall know them.

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BOOM. Thank you for that reply. I shake my head at those who rail against Trump’s moral failings. Fer cryin’ out loud, the man was wealthy, powerful, and ā€œfamousā€ for decades before he decided to dip his toe into the cesspool that is presidential politics. Somehow he was supposed to see himself as President in his SEVENTIES and live his young, exciting life as a pious sinless man? Right...

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AJ#2's avatar

Our country is still destroying the Christian communities in Syria and Ukraine.

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Copernicus's avatar

Yep, and it's the former VP leading the charge. Most of the ordinary folks are appalled.

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Marsali S.'s avatar

Very wise, thank you.

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Donna B's avatar

I don’t like it either but just like when Clinton was messing around in the White House (little bit different) everyone said what he does in his private life is between him and his family.

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

It seems to me a bit immoral to ruin a God-given country, to throw people into poverty, to propagandize children, to advance unbiblical agendas.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Bigger than shilling for Big Pharma, locking down the country, and shutting up about ivermectic after receiving a HUGE donation from Pfizer?

I dunno....

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How many aborted children does Trump have?

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AngelaK's avatar

Judge not lest ye be judged...As a New Yorker, who grew up with everything Trump always on the NYC radar, I do think that he has grown in some ways as a human being... and none of us are the same people we were at 18 to 30, as we are after 60. It is called getting older, wiser, less full of worldly lusts and more appreciative of our loved ones.

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Johnny-O's avatar

How many visits to Epstein island?

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Natalie's avatar

RFK is also fighting CBDCs. That is so important! It would be great for that issue to get a national hearing. https://twitter.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1643658603885101073

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Jo's avatar

Before he can rally people from every party, he has to win the Dem primary. And incumbent/institutional Dems don't play fair.

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CMCM's avatar

I'd like to think there are still enough decent, old school Democrats lurking fearfully in the shadows who would come out and vote for someone like RFK instead of the utterly evil monsters that would otherwise be on the Democrat ticket.

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Amanda R's avatar

I worry for him - his family have not got a good track record for avoiding bullets. I would love love love for him to get the nomination - a more genuinely good man you would struggle to find but I do worry for him.

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Genuinely good? Are you aware that he has previously expressed support for jailing people for "climate denial"? He is no exception to the rule that "inside every progressive is a totalitarian screaming to get out". He happens to be right on an issue or two, but that doesn't change his nature.

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Johnny-O's avatar

He also just had on the leading geoengineering figure on his podcast. I think his views have likely evolved.

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SpankinRedAss's avatar

My concern is not primarily about any particular view. Has his penchant for wanting to imprison others for having different opinions changed? Tigers rarely change their stripes.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Agreed. A BIG NOPE ON MULTIPLYING RFK.

Love his vax stance tho. I can't send money to a commie who wants all our money for BS global warming scams. And open borders. And BLM.

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Susan Catherine's avatar

I dunno--I kind of like the idea of the risk that if he loses the Dem nomination to Biden he can run independent thus taking away Dem votes weakening their show. However, there is always the risk that votes get taken away from Rep too...

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Yes he almost had me!! So glad y'all are are saying he REALLY IS A DEM. 😭

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NAB's avatar

Oh, he is clearly a Dem. No doubt. But he could be a serious thorn in the side of the Left if he were to make a serious run.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

And a worse thorn to us.

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Jackie Schroeder's avatar

I agree.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Tactics. Anything to split the Dem base. We gotta be smart.

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Canny Granny's avatar

I like his vax stand, but idk about other issues.

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FROM ARTICLE:

"Kennedy has appeared at events pushing the lie that the 2020 presidential election was stolen and with people who cheered or downplayed the insurrection at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

A photo posted on Instagram showed Kennedy backstage at a July 2021 Reawaken America event with former President Donald Trump's ally Roger Stone, former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn and anti-vaccine profiteer Charlene Bollinger. All three have promoted the lie about the 2020 election being stolen."

https://abc7ny.com/robert-f-kennedy-jr-is-running-for-president-2024-election/13092282/

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Canny Granny's avatar

The election results were questionable.

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CMCM's avatar

You say with great assurance that the 2020 election being stolen is a lie. Please provide evidence that it was NOT stolen.

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AngelaK's avatar

LOL! THAT was from a newspaper article. Please see the link on it.

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

He’s also a Democrat. Read their platform.…because he signs onto it when he decides to run as a Dem. Take any important moral issue in our country right now and see how it aligns with their stance.

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FourWinds's avatar

It appears that way, but I am skeptical. I guess I'm paranoid. However, I really do appreciate how outspoken he's been on the non-vax.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Multiply Kennedy? If he has a chance of splitting the Dem base, then heck yes! They've been trying to split us. Turn the tables on them.

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Barbls's avatar

He is not a champion of the Constitution. His murderous "Uncle Teddy" was instrumental getting the privileged vs unprivileged idea into laws that taxed peter to pay paul and that undermined the idea of opportunity and freedom for all. RFK Jr approves of that.

I agree with his stand on vaxes. Not much else, especially his support for the climate crisis and anti-fossil fuel religions.

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I couldn’t agree more …I think maybe people could underestimate just how appealing a centrist (I should say by comparison to the extremes) is these days .

Especially for Republicans who don’t want to vote Trump šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø

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How ever does someone like John Lansing keep a strait face while declaring such absurdities as ā€œNPR stands for freedom of speech and holding the powerful accountable.ā€ šŸ™„šŸ˜‚......riiight.....i mean really, I laughed so hard......oh yes and after ever other show on NPR you hear in one of those weird soft smiling monotone voices, ā€œBrought to you by the Welcome Trustā€, ā€œBrought to you by the Bill and Melinda Gate Foundation.ā€, ā€œ Brought to you By the Ford Foundation.ā€ Oh standing up to power indeed. Thank you for the laugh!

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

As my mother warned me decades ago, "People will lie to you with their faces hanging out, Kathleen."

Evidence of that truism abounds...

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RunningLogic's avatar

Right?? They are the first to cancel people for wrongthink and screech about ā€œmisinformationā€ šŸ™„ They only support ā€œfreedom of speechā€ for people who agree with them šŸ™„

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Emumundo's avatar

Last time I listened to NPR they were discussing if Facebook does enough to censor misinformation. Does this guy listen to his own station?

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Tonya's avatar

Former NPR CEO Ken Stern didn't recognize the bias at his organization until he got out of his bubble. Here is an excellent 2-part video series about what he experienced:

https://youtu.be/b0qyeFVf7bg

https://youtu.be/Bt2c1hU_k4o

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Shield Maiden's avatar

Thank you Tonya! I will watch later.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Yes, thank you!

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Canny Granny's avatar

I’m beginning to think they really believe that not allowing everyone to speak is free speech. That’s what arrogance does maybe. I can’t fathom it anymore. I’m still astounded that people like this don’t see that they are giving away their children and grandchildren’s birthrights and don’t even realize it.

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SunnyRai's avatar

I came here to write something similar about NPR and all of their $pon$or$ that you mentioned. šŸ˜…

Oh the 'Reality Deniers'.

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Well you are brighter than I was, but to be fair I only started to listen seriously in 2008, before that it was very casual listening in the car during my commute. So from 2008 to 2015, about 7 years I took it in more seriously. Still, it’s a disturbingly rude awakening to realize that what you once counted on for news and ostensibly quality analysis was mostly propaganda and that goes for all mainstream/ corporate and many, many so called alternative media too,( and TV and movies). It’s a real jungle.

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Jenny R's avatar

Yes, I definitely support multiplying Kennedy. I think he really cares about America. I disagree with many of his policies on things like gun rights and abortion. But my impression is that he's sincere and actually cares about the American people, and would be committed to restoring the Republic and taking down the parasitic deep state/entrenched bureaucratic apparatus. If both parties become more populist, the American people are the winners. I wish Kennedy the best.

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He can’t win the presidency, but he may open up discussion of some things that the media won’t now touch. He could well be the cat amongst the pigeons.

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Alice P. Liddell's avatar

And it would be awesome to see him in a debate with Biden.

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Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

biden will never be in a debate. lol He won't remember he is in one.

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Michael Miller's avatar

If biden can win, anyone can win!

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Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

If Biden can ā€œwin,ā€ anyone the Chinese are willing to rig the election for can win.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

81 million totally valid votes, even more than uber-popular Obama. Take that suckers!

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Diana's avatar

Anyone the democrats want to win can win now. That’s for sure Bc elections are not clean.

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Martha's avatar

Undoubtedly, there will be a whole of government/Big Tech/Legacy Media approach to ridiculing/censoring his message...

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Lon Guyland's avatar

Yes, the onslaught will be a sight to behold. I suspect he may not be intimidated. It will further expose the oozing pustule of corruption that characterizes the government /illness-prolongation industry/military/media complex.

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Tess Lively's avatar

For those interested in learning more:

https://www.teamkennedy.com/

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Based Florida Man's avatar

I don't see any info there. Just the donate or volunteer page.

I actually haven't found a good source of his positions. His Wiki page is mostly a hit piece.

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Tess Lively's avatar

I just checked the box for ā€œI'm interested in learning more about Bobby's vision as President of the United States.ā€ I’m not ready to donate or go all in either, but I’m willing to listen to what he has to say.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

A wiki attack could be a sign his head is on straight. On the other hand, 5g warfare is very good at bait and switch. At any rate, we should hear the man out.

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jjinUK64's avatar

Completely agree with you.

And I don't mind that we don't align 100% on policy. I actually think we need to go back to a time when we chose candidates based on a solid amount of overlap on core values and issues.

Nowadays people get very upset when 'their candidate' goes a different way on any single point they don't agree with. It's a bit silly. If you want to see someone elected that you agree with 100% of the time ...then you need to stand for office. Otherwise, be realistic, and focus on integrity and core values, rather than aiming to agree on an entire buffet of sideline issues.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

The most core of core values is the God given right to life. No other rights matter without that one.

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Johnny-O's avatar

So how do you reconcile supporting the leader of the poison death shot?

You people make very little sense sometimes.

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LuAnne's avatar

Since you obviously have a deep hate for Trump, please enlighten all of us with who you think would make for a good President and why. Oh, and I just love the "you people" peppered in your comment. Nothing says unity like "you people".

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I don't hate Trump, I would vote for him given the chance. Best option on the table, in my view. But I *do think it's ok* to admit that's he's a flawed man in many respects, and he's made some very poor judgement calls (including vaccines).

It's fair enough for people to point that out, and also for them to notice that it might be a contradiction of sorts, in terms of the fact that most of his supporters are staunchly pro-life ...but the jabs are killing people, and now being given to kids, and he's not backed off them at all.

Everyone has flaws, I don't think it makes any sense to pretend 'my team' is perfect. That's the sort of tribalism I think the left have a (deservedly) bad rep for, no?

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Johnny-O's avatar

Uhm, must of us are here due to vaccine, yet many of you will still support the one who pushed it on the world and still brags about it. Those are the"you people" I speak of. No candidate is perfect, but good God I can't fathom voting for the purveyor of the poison death shot

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LuAnne's avatar

Uhm, no. Most of us are here because of the tyrannical mandates which Trump had nothing to do with. He has frequently said he never intended the jabs to be mandated. He has never said no jab, no job. No jab, no entering a public business. No jab, can't enter our country. No jab, no surgical procedure. No jab, can't go to our school or college. Don't even get me started on the mask charade.

I didn't like OWS either but I don't think Trump knew that every power grubbing politician in our country would force it on everyone. Can you imagine if he hadn't done anything? We would all still be locked up in our homes. The whole covid scam was a get-Trump scheme, among other nefarious intentions (mail in ballots being one of them). He didn't have a chance. I'm not saying Trump doesn't have faults...he most definitely does. I dislike how many wives he's had. I disliked how much tweeting and name calling he did. I also think he wasn't very good at appointing the correct people (Barr, Wray, and a few others). Heck, even the Republican held Congress was working against him.

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CarO Lyn's avatar

Johnny-One topic is obviously only here to bash Trump

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Johnny-O's avatar

I'm here regularly, so nice try. Why don't you refute what I say....oh, because you cannot.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Then I'll vote for Trump again if I have to I guess.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Make America Jabbed Again

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Nancy Tait's avatar

The "Men's Prayer"? ☺

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Sharon's avatar

Sincere in his love for gun control and killing babies??! Sounds dangerous to me ;)

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

Don’t forget his ultra left view on climate change. No thanks. I’ll pass.

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John A George's avatar

It would be interesting if his view on climate change shifted and exposed the main cause of it, geoengineering (see https://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/ for more info).

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FedUpInOR's avatar

Agree, if you can’t support the most innocent and helpless among us (unborn babies) then you’ve lost me

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Yep. He's really just another big Lib, but with sane vaccine policy. I love his vax stance, but the rest is straight marxist.

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NAB's avatar

These Marxists always come from super-privileged backgrounds - it's like they have a guilt-complex for which they are trying to make amends. Why can't he just give away his money to a good cause? Go support clean water in Africa or cheap energy for developing countries (and not "renewable" BS options).

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Mel's avatar

Oh, stop. Lol.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

He's got money! He doesn't need mine. Disagree on ABORTION AND GUNS = NOT ON MY LIFE!

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Joe's avatar

I would definitely support a multiplier for RFK. At a bare minimum, his campaign will give the medical freedom movement a lot of publicity. Whether he can win or not really isn't the question...his campaign will be a net positive for the country and the world.

And let's stop letting the perfect be the enemy of the good: RFK Jr is not perfect, and neither is Trump, DeSantis, anyone reading this, nor myself. But let's get behind those who will fight to keep our freedoms, and walk with them as far as we can.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

A big no from me boss.

RFK is great on vaccine policy and somewhat on election fraud. THATS IT.

He's for open borders, massive tax hikes for BS global warming, BLM, etc.

I agree he's trouble for the Dems. Love that part.

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Joe's avatar

I don’t support RFK on everything or even nearly everything. Vaccine policy to me is one of the biggest issue. We have literally poisoned hundreds of millions of people, nearly all children in America, with horribly toxic substances that will mentally, physically and emotionally handicap our children for a lifetime. We aren’t going to have any future, ā€œGreenā€ or not, if we are all autistic. Again DeSantis has problems: new-con light foreign policy....Trump has many problems, not least of all that he is unelectable at this point. I vote libertarian most elections, for what it is worth. I’m no Democrat, but when 8 see the vaccine injured kids in my daughter’s school drooling from the mouth, racing in the hallways, pushing walkers, slowly going paralyzed, etc, it breaks my heart and fills me with anger....so yes, I’ll throw my few bucks and one vote to RFK, or DeSantis or Trump or to anyone who will stand up against this horrific child abuse.

Much respect from Detroit!

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Dr. Colleen Huber's avatar

Well said. Vaccine injury is THE issue.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

RFK says vaccines are terrible for kids, but turns around and supports all forms of abortions. /facepalm

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Joe's avatar

Whether we like it or not, a substantial majority of Americans favor legal abortion with some restrictions.

Right now we have unlimited forced vaccination and close to Unlimited abortions in many states. In the hypothetical RFK Presidency, we would ā€œonlyā€ have abortions and no more forced vaccinations. I’m not saying it’s right, but it’s where we’re at. Republicans lost the most recent Wisconsin supreme court race pretty much on the issue of abortion. Here in Michigan, Republicans lost every single statewide office in control of both chambers of the legislature largely on the abortion issue. Republicans will win exactly 0 races in middle America with a hard line abortion policy whether they are 100% correct or not. That’s simply not where the electorate is

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Copernicus's avatar

Lost... well, until we address election fraud, these issues are more SELECTED than ELECTED.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Joe, here in Oregon too the race came down to abortion. Either that or the state mail-in voting tipped the scales at the very end once again. The republican candidate really didn’t loose by all that much, but just enough.

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CMCM's avatar

People should take a lesson from California. If Republicans are too hard line on abortion in every race, the Democrats will soon control EVERYTHING. California not only has abortion up until the day of birth, they are saying they will fly in people from other states and fund abortions for out of staters as well. There is no longer any hope of Republicans taking California back, the Democrat takeover is too complete, too extensive. Do people care about that happening in every single state eventually? Republicans need to be more strategic about this issue. Since Roe v Wade was struck down, it's now with the states and the states are ready for the taking on this ONE issue.

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Copernicus's avatar

Link please re abortion. Thanks.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Child abuse includes ABORTION!! Which also includes woman abuse!!!

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Johnny-O's avatar

Operation Warp Speed was the ultimate abuse

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Willing Spirit's avatar

And why is Trump unelectable at this point? Dear God in Heaven this ā€˜Trump is done now! Really this time!’ is getting tiresome.

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Joe's avatar

Two issues here. One is would he win a free and fair election and the other one is would he be allowed to take office if he did or will there be manipulation to be election results.

I live in Michigan one of the Midwestern swing states. I am a libertarian. I voted for Trump the last election. I am also a realist. He will have a solid 40 to 45% of the votes but will never break 50% even in a completely free and fair election here. He has been demonized in the media to the extent that any mention of his name to the so-called moderates are independent voters is a kin to mentioning Hitlerā€˜s name. Add onto that the violent pro-abortion mentality here and he cannot win in Michigan. He cannot win in Wisconsin and likely not in Pennsylvania. He would win Ohio, Indiana , Kentucky and have a fighting chance in New Hampshire and that would be it outside of his Deep South support. He would like Georgia. NC is a tossup. As much as I would love to see him win election we also have to be realistic. All of us on substack do not represent anything close to majority in America. Trump has pissed off a lot of independence and suburbanites and he’s not getting that support back. And if it looks like he is getting any support back. It’s easy enough to tweak a few machines here and there to deny him victory.

On the other hand, someone like DeSantis could quite possibly sweep the Midwestern states with the exception of Illinois. Whether he merits it or not, he has a lot more moderate image and is a lot more palatable to a lot of independent and middle of the road voters.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Trump is crushing all others. DeSantis is toast for 2024, so stay in Tallahassee and get that Disney 'reedy creek' deal fixed.

The Dems are a disaster for 2024. Pedo Biden, Obamma's wife, or Gavin newscum. Trump's odds are great (having a fair election is a separate issue).

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Joe's avatar

Trump Is crushing all others amongst Republican primary voters. The general election is a whole other cup of tea. I would

wholeheartedly Support him again as I did last time but we also have to be realistic. On the ground here in Michigan, there’s no way in hell he would ever win the state

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NAB's avatar

BFM - a sincere question: do you think there is any way a Republican can actually win the Presidency? Do you think the Deep State will ever allow it? I just don't see how the "system" allows for an honest election at this point.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

I'm with you. Signs like Biden ordering Trump's arrest, and the intentional crashing of the USD and banking system (to usher in the digital gov money)... chances of fair elections are fading. Hoping for the best, expecting the worst. Like today we're picnicking along the Intercoastal Waterway on a sandbar. For the wife's sake, I won't bring up politics...

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Credenda's avatar

Only if the Republican is an exact replica of a Democrat. In which case it matters not at all.

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CMCM's avatar

Newsom has completed the ruination of California. As you see he has been quite the busy bee in other states including Florida. He is primed and ready to help take over the rest of America.

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Monica's avatar

Great comment re: no future at all if we are all autistic. Even if ā€œonlyā€ one in 35 male children are autistic, there are not enough public or private funds available to accommodate roughly 60 years of 24/7 care. Not to mention that the currency is about to be seriously devalued!

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TIM's avatar

I agree...I've seen enough Kennedys , Clintons, Bushs, Bidens and Obamas....theyve all took enough of our money

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Credenda's avatar

Our freedoms begin with the right to be born, to even HAVE a life. If we keep killing our children, giving them to Molech, then God will judge us with righteous judgement. RFK is a decent man in many ways but he will not fight for the most essential freedom. Without this, it’s all hypocritical.

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Kate Selfridge's avatar

Maybe an unpopular comment but I like RFK Jr. Call me crazy but I’m open to hear what he has to say.

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Wheaton's avatar

I think it’s good news with no downside like Jeff said. I still prefer DeSantis but Democrats I know want anyone but Biden and Kamala.

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Elaine H's avatar

I hope we can come up with someone besides desantis because he’s doing a great job here. Not sure he could accomplish what he’s doing as president.

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

But why give the Dems a viable candidate? (Because he’s still a Dem, after all. Read their party platform)

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Wheaton's avatar

I agree Kate, however at this rate, it will be stolen again so no matter what, we are stuck with Biden. At least Kennedy can expose some truth. I have heard Trump speak of his 3 point plan to fix voting to make it fair, but if the governors don’t get on board, there is nothing Trump can do, so in that case, we have no chance.

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none none's avatar

I'd be more willing to support him if he ran as an Independent

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

I think party platforms are a fair place to begin sorting out candidates, but the overwhelmingly Republican Texas House has total disregard for the state GOP platform and reelected a flaming rino to speaker. We need to look beyond team colors and evaluate candidates on stuff they hide during campaigns, such as the content of their character.

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

Good point.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

I'm with you. I support several of his issues, like vax policy and election fraud.

Unlike Biden, et all, who I disagree with on all their positions.

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Donna B's avatar

I hear ya! I would love to see a debate between RFK, Jr. and Biden or Trump. Finally the information about the jabs and the damage it’s done would be out in the open.

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Nancy Tait's avatar

I'm with you, Kate. Who cares about being popular? After all, he wrote The Real Anthony Fauci. I didn't see anyone else doing that. 😘

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Robert Kennedy Jr. for 2024

Oh my gosh, the apnews is saying he's a nutter:

"But more than 15 years ago, he became fixated on a belief that vaccines are not safe. He emerged as one of the leading voices in the anti-vaccine movement, and his work has been described by public health experts and even members of his own family as misleading and dangerous."

(his sister disagrees on his anti-vax stance, so don't vote for him...LOL)

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"His anti-vaccine charity, Children’s Health Defense, prospered during the pandemic, with revenues more than doubling in 2020 to $6.8 million"

(see? he's a grifter. don't vote for him!)

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"Kennedy has repeatedly invoked Nazis and the Holocaust when talking about measures aimed at mitigating the spread of COVID-19, such as mask requirements and vaccine mandates. "

"released a book in 2021, ā€œThe Real Anthony Fauci, full of falsehoods"

"promoted unproven COVID-19 treatments such as ivermectin"

"promoted the lie about the 2020 election being stolen."

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Well, if the Dems are gonna win, then let it be him! But, he'll get the same treatment as the other 2 Kennedys if he gets near the top.

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Tonya's avatar

"...his work has been described by public health experts and even members of his own family as misleading and dangerous."

As if the seal of approval from public health "experts" and the Kennedy family should mean something to us.

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CarO Lyn's avatar

Don’t forget Grandpa Kennedy had his aunt lobotomized.

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Lon Guyland's avatar

Yeah ā€œfull of falsehoodsā€. I bet they can’t name one.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Ugh it just burns me up to read all the BS these smarmy sycophants write!! 😔

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Based Florida Man's avatar

If they were real news, they'd say 'regarding the controversial topic of election fraud'. But nope, to them the 'science is settled'. LOL

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AngelaK's avatar

Thsts it! They deliberately word their headlines and articles in ways to influence the reader. Where are the same garbage articles about all of Biden's stupid gaffes and actions like they do for Trump, Desantis, Kennedy, and anyone else they find a conservative threat.

ANSWER: There never are any!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Exactly.

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Healingroze Earthwise's avatar

Maybe he will disperse the democrat’s votes enough that the republican candidate can win. How many times has that been used against the conservatives in this country??? The deep state probably won’t let it get that far. 😢

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NAB's avatar

Damn you, AP, don't make me defend this guy!

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walk2write's avatar

🤣🤣🤣

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Getting trashed by NPR and the AP is a solid endorsement in my book. Of course, that 5g warfare thing lurks in everything they report, but it makes him far more interesting. Let’s hear the man out.

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AngelaK's avatar

Lord have mercy! Good men all.

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King Cavalier II's avatar

Robert F. Kennedy Jr Ā©

@RobertKennedyJr

The collapse of U.S. influence over Saudi Arabia and the Kingdom's new alliances with China and Iran are painful emblems of the abject failure of the Neocon strategy of maintaining U.S. global hegemony with aggressive projections of military power. China has displaced the American Empire by deftly projecting, instead, economic power. Over the past decade, our country has spent trillions bombing roads, ports, bridges, and airports. China spent the equivalent building the same across the developing world. The Ukraine war is the final collapse of the Neocon's short-lived "American Century." The Neocon projects in Iraq and Ukraine have cost $8.1 trillion, hollowed out our middle class, made a laughingstock of U.S. military power and moral authority, pushed China and Russia into an invincible alliance, destroyed the dollar as the global currency, cost millions of lives and done nothing to advance democracy or win friendships or influence.

reuters.com/business/energ.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Wow, lots of truth leaking out there. Someone's in big trouble.

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Kittykat's avatar

Reuters has already disappeared that page.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

And there we go.

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Copernicus's avatar

😲

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Who could have IMAGINED Revelation happening here and now?!

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CMCM's avatar

That reuters page is now gone. Did RFK write this?

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Ok, so, not comment related, but I have to ask about your user name. I’m guessing you are a fan of King Charles Cavaliers? We are partial to them, so I noticed your name right away. Beautiful dogs!

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King Cavalier II's avatar

Haha! Yes they are beautiful and truly wonderful dogs, but my Texan mother swore that she has never heard of the dog when she named me after my father (I am KCII) whose name was shortened & changed when he joined the Army/Aircorp in the late 1930’s.

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Credenda's avatar

Yes, I love cavaliers, even though they are little shedding machines.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

People ask if corgis shed. I say ā€˜twice a year ... Jan-June, July-December’. šŸ˜‰

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Oh wow! Haha. Oops. I’m sorry. The name just hit me because we have a KC Cavalier. It is actually a fantastic name! I love it! Sounds like royalty. šŸ˜‰

I read your comment too and liked that as well šŸ˜‰

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King Cavalier II's avatar

Thank you and - not at all- as you might imagine it’s not the first time. It does make online dating a bit- uhmmm- interesting.šŸ˜‚šŸŽ‰

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Sunnydaze's avatar

šŸ˜‚ šŸ˜‚ šŸ˜‚

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Do you have money? I have a daughter. šŸ¤£šŸ¤­šŸ˜µā€šŸ’«

OH I'm so glad my dating search is over!! I PRAY FOR YOU ALL!

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King Cavalier II's avatar

Lol! Well, yes, but she has to be over 45 just to ride on the back of my scooter.

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Carrie Barth's avatar

Good morning Coffee and Covid Jeff Childers!

I am a Republican freshman Kansas House Representative for District 5 and yesterday we overrode the democrat Governor’s veto, 80 to 40 in the House for Fairness in Women’s Sports and the Senate 28-12.

Yesterday was a good day being able to protect female athletes.

I was raised playing sports, and I am raising two competitive athletic girls.

This is an important issue not only in Kansas got across the globe.

In a few weeks, we will most likely be voting on a veto override for the Women’s Bill of Rights, defining what a biological female is.

Today is the last day for conference committees for bills getting through. We have multiple health freedom bills that are stuck and hoping that our leadership will give these health Freedom Bills a chance...some of them I have cosponsored.

I thoroughly enjoy the daily emails. Keep up the good work!

For Freedom!

Representative Carrie Barth

Kansas House District 5

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Jeff Childers's avatar

Great job Kansas! Such good news to see red legislatures overriding weak/blue governors. Let us know if we can help.

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Credenda's avatar

THIS is the kind of person we should be multiplying!

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FourWinds's avatar

Thank you. Hoping the same happens in Ohio.

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Harold Saive's avatar

Thanks for dropping in with all that great news, Carrie.

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Michelle Childers's avatar

Amazing!!! Congratulations and thank you for your courage to stand up for women’s rights!

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Kudos and more power to you, Carrie! It’s refreshing to find a representative representing, listening, and talking to the people and not hiding in committee meetings. We could use 150 just like you in the Texas House. Come on down!

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Dick Davis's avatar

Thank you

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

VA denies medical care to veterans not wearing a mask.

(Gonna keep posting this until those totalitarians wake up and stop the insanity.)

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Based Florida Man's avatar

VA was always a total scam.

Just send the vets to regular hospitals.

Then we don't need all these gov workers, which are usually the least performers.

I wonder if there's a lawsuit against the VA that we could multiply?

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Some VAs are better than others. Woe to a veteran who lives near a crappy one.

The atmosphere and attitude seemed to be better at the VA when Trump was President.

The worst government employees are the ones who work in DC. I was stationed in DC and never saw a lazier bunch of folks. At quitting time, they could be in the middle of a pen stroke, and would practically run you over in their sprint to the elevator. There was one GS-15 female who thought the sailors were her moving company in the office. I had to explain to her that if a sailor gets hurt at work, it could end their career. Told her to hire a real moving company to assemble and move furniture that arrived in the office spaces.

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My son in the USMC (Sgt.) says "PFC stands for Perfect for Cleaning." LOL

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CMCM's avatar

It's full of affirmative action hires.

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Anne Clifton's avatar

I'm really intrigued by RFK Jr. entering the race. While pessimistic about anything good coming of the 2024 election, I will continue to hope. I think I will totally lose hope if we follow Canada's depravity and try to pass a similar bill making it illegal to even express an opinion about said depravity. I'll say it again, what's happening with the sexualization of our children is demonic. It's an attack on the family and a defiant blasphemy (is that redundant?) against God. It's doomed to fail, but we will be made miserable until, in God's timing, He makes all things right. Even so, come quickly, Lord Jesus!!

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Based Florida Man's avatar

That photo of that group of Mayo Clinic masked doctors was funny, the dudes have beards which totally defeat mask usage. If aerosol-Ebola was floating around, would they feel safe? Course not. More proof that covid has always been a scam.

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

And that highly-edu-macated "healthcare professionals" comprise a very dangerous cohort that lives among us.

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Yahoo's avatar

Kenny is great at children’s health defense. But a democrat is a democrat. He will still do the climate hoax and wealth redistribution ... I won’t multiply him. He may be a saner democrat but he still must believe in kill the unborn, indoctrinate 4 year olds and up into thinking men pretending to be women is normal and that it is ok to cut off your body parts .... if he didn’t believe the core platform he would have run as an independent versus a democrat.

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jjinUK64's avatar

He's not really a nutter about climate issues - his main focus in this space has been corporate malfeasance with respect to things like unsafe disposal of dangerous waste / pollutants ...it dovetails in with his other health-focused views.

He's also not a wokey, and not pushing any trans or CRT silliness. He's essentially a 1980s democrat. If he can pull the Dems back in his direction he will be doing the country a huge favour.

I think he knows full well that he can't win, but what he can do is move the Overton window on these huge issues like pharma corruption, and govt/private sector collusion and corruption. The DNC will kill his run (as they did with Bernie and Tulsi), but he could lob a few potent grenades before they take him out, and get some really important conversations going.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I agree with your last paragraph and it does seem like he’s not on the side of the woke, but I still have concerns about his stances on certain issues that for me are vitally important. Still, opening up the conversation would definitely be a very good thing.

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jjinUK64's avatar

Yes, fair point.

I'd like to see people like him lob some grenades into the Kingdom of Woke, and disrupt some of the stale DNC groupthink. If he can start pulling the Democrats back to a more sensible (less nihilistic and overtly destructive) agenda, then he would be true American hero in my book.

I still wouldn't vote Democrat — I'm not a leftist on either fiscal or social issues, and I think we will need hardcore small-government-conservative leadership for at least a decade just to roll back the cr*pfest we are currently stuck in, and get the ship on an even keel.

Having said that, a sane, intelligent, principled opposition is *essential* to the functioning of the two party system. If one or both parties go rogue, the whole thing falls apart as there's nobody holding power to account. Which is what's happened. The R's became lazy and corrupt swamp creatures, and the D's became radicalised lazy and corrupt swamp creatures. In the background, hidden hands seized power and looted the casino. The conservatives need to return to fiscal and moral probity, and the left need to clean house and return to the role of finding ways to help the working classes obtain social mobility and prosperity. Just my two cents.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I agree, that would be helpful.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Sane? Abortion? a medical Dr?

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Johnny-O's avatar

Lots of traffic about abortion

Trumps clot shot killed and maimed many millions

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Yeah, you said that. Over and over again kinda botlike.

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jjinUK64's avatar

Are you saying that RFK Jnr is insane, because he's pro-choice?

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Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

I agree with you, I don't know for a fact his politics other than non vaccine, which I admire, but he is a democrat and I no longer trust them. I haven't gotten to the point that they are all evil, I just don't trust them. Probably never will after these past years, and all that is coming out. I don't trust politicians period, but dems least of all.

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Dr Linda's avatar

I trust politicians as much as I trust doctors. I hate the idea of voting for the lesser of 2 evils. That seems wrong to this simple minded being

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Really? How would you ever find someone to vote for?

Our Lord Jesus Christ is King, not a presidential candidate.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Agreed. At least Kennedy has several good positions, like vax policy and election fraud.

Unlike Biden or Schumer, who I disagree with on every single policy.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yeah those are also my sticking points šŸ˜• I appreciate a lot about him but don’t understand how he can be for certain freedoms but not others.

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jjinUK64's avatar

I get that. But I do think it's worth giving it a shake, and then looking at it again sideways. let me try out this argument on you...

It's not so much 'would we personally vote for RFK Jnr?' — that answer is likely no, for any conservative, due to what you said — a few core sticking points of fundamental philosophy.

BUT, the USA's two party system only functions when it is truly adversarial and engaged in meaningful debate (which it currently is not; Congress is like a creche for misfit brats, and meanwhile all the real power is looting the casino in the background).

So... setting aside the "Would I personally vote for him?" question, instead consider the question... "Which kind of Democrat party is best for America; the Biden / Clinton cartel style of party, or the RFK Jnr old-school Democrat style of party?"

To that question, it seems obvious to me that the latter is preferred. If he can drag the lunatics on his side back out of the insane asylum and towards the middle, and if he can shine a light on some of the swampy corruption, then he is the right choice. The right choice for the *Democratic* party (not for R voters), but he's the sort of Democrat that Republican's should be cheering on, in my view. He is at least a principled and sane opponent.

Imagine how much better the laws emanating from Congress would be if the right were sending Rand Paul types, and the left were sending RFK Jnr types. The quality of the debate and ethics would improve instantly, and the country could get back on the right track. I really hope he and the last few sane Democrats can hijack the discourse on their side, and drag it somewhere better. Good luck to him!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes, I agree, you make some good arguments. Still, I am somewhat reluctant to put my money towards that effort, I am on the fence about whether to give to him rather than to someone more in need and more aligned with my values.

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jjinUK64's avatar

Yes, agreed.

I wouldn't, personally, donate financially, because I reserve my cash for people I really feel aligned with (a rarity!). But I would certainly be willing to do non-financial other things to "amplify" RFK, so to speak. Things like discussing him in the online and offline venues that are part of my life.

It's a weird situation, because normally we would all just follow our own people. But currently federal politics is a giant bipartisan swamp of corruption, with a host of mercenary banking/corporate interests in the background.

So in this instance, I will support *anyone* who has integrity and recognises the real problems; the scale and nature of them. Anyone who wants to take on that corrupt power base is a warrior I will back, for the most part.

Whilst RFK Jnr is certainly not naturally 'my people', I genuinely think he is the other side's version of principled man [rare!]. If we rewound politics by 50yrs, and chose a principled guy from each side... RFK Jnr could be the Democratic guy, with principles. The fact that his own party find him so awkward and objectionable is to me, a good sign. The R's felt the same about Trump. But they were out of step with the public on that.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes, that makes sense to me too.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I know, right?

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Jo McEvoy's avatar

He would have to address where he stands on these issues VERY early.

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Johnny-O's avatar

But you will support trump, whose clot shot till out killed and maimed many many millions??

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Yeah, you said that. Over and over again kinda botlike.

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Johnny-O's avatar

Because nobody will respond to it in a meaningful way.....because you can't square that circle friend.

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Steph D's avatar

I’m not keen on any candidate that is pro-abortion or pro-enviro alarmist. But I do think Kennedy’s platform would at least bring the Covid tyranny to the forefront of the political conversation.

The democrats in my husband’s family only watch state-approved media and I don’t think they have any idea about what the other half of the country is so upset about. My sister-in-law had no idea that drag queens were performing in front of children in libraries and schools. Baffling!

Additionally, I wouldn’t mind watching the debate between Kennedy and Biden, that would definitely require a box of popcorn or even an ice cream cone.

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Alice P. Liddell's avatar

What really perplexes me about drag queens performing in front of children in libraries and schools is that if a woman wore the same costume (for example, a sequined leotard and high heels) and wanted to do a similar performance it would not be allowed.....there would be outrage. How does it make it "acceptable" for a man dressed as a female to do it?

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NAB's avatar

Alice, Alice, Alice. There you go, talking sense and asking a reasonable question. Just shut up, bigot and clap for the man, uh, woman in her leotard. :)

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RunningLogic's avatar

Exactly!!

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Isn't that crazy?

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Michelle Childers's avatar

šŸ’Æ

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RunningLogic's avatar

Agree.

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nymusicdaily's avatar

RFK multiplier and campaign are a bad idea. campaigning is a 24/7 job and would distract RFK from his lawsuit vs. brandon and his CHD activities. CHD might well be compromised: no more mike yeadon, no more catherine austin fitts.

plus, no way the DNC allows a RFK victory. they got plenty of practice with bernie.

all the grassroots resistance against the plandemic and lockdowns has been from republicans. everything. putting RFK or any dem in the WH would legitimize the DNC and that would be catastrophic. assuming we get a 2024 election (big if), we have a historic chance to knock out the dem party for good and allow a sensible liberal constituency to emerge from its ashes. having a republican congress and president would be an enormous help to all the freedom fighters on the ground.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Good points.

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Neil Kellen's avatar

Chicago's Brandon, and most other liberals, don't seem to have a clue about how business insurance works. Every year when you apply for renewal you are required to provide your loss runs for analysis. And guess what happens to businesses that have experienced lots of losses? They get turned down - no more insurance. No insurance, no business.

You are also required to divulge information on settled or pending lawsuits. So if you have an employee that gets mugged (or killed as just happened in SF) and a good lawyer can tie it to the employer (happened in the work parking lot, walking to a meeting with a client,...) and you get sued and or settle guess what? A few of those events and you get turned down. No insurance, no business.

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AM's avatar

Hey Neil what does reality have to do with progressive ideological fantasies? šŸ™„šŸ¤£

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Janet's avatar

Like those Far Side comics of a dog thinking while looking at his owner while he bloviated. Blah blah blah. That’s what progs hear.

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

Not to mention, that idiot is clearly not thinking of those who are dependent on these "fat-cat" businesses that he wants to plunder out of existence. . . . When there are no employers, there are no jobs, no retail locations at which to eat or shop.

He's screwing his own constituency to achieve his personal agenda. Typical Marxist.

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