I can't find it in PACER yet, but a civil suit was filed to gain access to a state statute that is a Felony Class III for the illegal practice of medicine by a foreign entity or CMS for the jab mandate in Utah (District 10). The Plaintiffs I believe but cannot confirm, are the plastic surgeons with the Craniofacial Foundation of Utah, since at the end of this month they lose the privilege to practice at hospitals for refusing the jab.
The suit is a different attack vector: Bio-warfare, Anit-Trust, Racketeering, Collusion etc. citing Federal statutes or USC. This is the wedge that Dr. David Martin & team needs. This hopefully will open the floodgates rapidly. If courts do not remediate Fraud & the largest enterprise crime in history, then they failed, and the constitution is VERY clear on what needs to happen next.
"The upshot of the calls was that the governor doesn’t seem inclined to veto, fearing that any hospitals that do relax Covid mandates will instantly become litigation targets absent the shield."
So...veto it, Guv, and tell the legislature to come back with better, more flexible and nuanced legislation. Wouldn't be the first time a chief executive said, "Nope, you can do better. DO better."
I can't believe the veto on the hospitals is not going to happen. These people allowed people to die just because the government said so. Who cares if they get opened up to lawsuits! They need to pay for what they did.
I don't understand why a concern over hospitals facing litigation is a valid one. I assume the reason for litigation would be the mistreatment of patients resulting in many cases in death or permanent injury. Shouldn't hospitals and doctors be liable for malpractice and malfeasance? Even if they are following protocols recommended (not legally required) by the CDC--in order to rake in large sums of money? I guess if DeSantis is not willing to veto, a compromise is better than nothing, but it doesn't satisfy me in the least.
Jeff, any thoughts on what you will call the sub stack after Biden gets us out of this mess on the 1st? I was thinking Coffee and HIV? Or Coffee and Myocarditis?
I know for a fact that you have at least one more Coffee and Covid reader. I read it aloud to my husband every morning. I guess he’s more of a C & C listener.
If Biden extended the government emergency, how can the pandemic be declared over? Call it an endemic but keep the emergency in force forever? Sounds like the plan to me. The FDA will approve the mRNA faux vaccine for children, 6 mo.s to 5 years as soon as the SOTU is done. Bank on it. Also, unfortunately, DeSantis is still a politician for all of it.
RE: the probable no go on the veto... Perhaps these hospitals SHOULD be litigated. I mean how many people have died who didn't need to? I know of three people (personally) who were basically killed by three different hospitals in different parts of Florida. Fear of lawsuits is not necessarily a bad thing.
Our side isn't very good at much, is it? Even the governor in shining armor sells out his own supporters. Heaven forbid a business should lose any profits over its atrocities against the population.
Re the risk from injections, "haven’t found evidence" = perhaps what, when I practiced medicine, was the abbreviation we half-jokingly called 'WNL' - it's supposed to stand for 'within normal limits,' but lazy docs might skip that part of the exam, when it then stood for 'we never looked.' Also, absence of evidence =/= evidence of absence.
“Children might be better spreaders of Covid. Maybe. You never know.” 🤣🤣🤣This sums up the CDC’s, FDA’s & NIH’s science throughout Covid. Maybe. You never know!
The Governor is making a mistake. Hospitals will get sued if they are negligent. That's how people are protected from tyranny through medical directives. Hospitals are knowingly killing people. Why is Governor DeSantis more interested protecting big pharma than the people? Unless this bill is vetoed, DeSantis has lost my support forever. I will no longer back politicians that appear compromised. All the tough talk is old. We need strong leadership when it truly counts. Unless you veto the bill DeSantis, all covid related hospital deaths are on you. You will become part of the problem. Do not let this man off the hook!
Hi, I might have missed something, but what about Biden's recent indefinite extension of the national "emergency" as it was going to expire? Was that so it can be done instead on or around the March 1 campaign kickoff? Or will it stay in place so as to not jeopardize any pharma EUAs?
Yeah, well, my "cheap cynicism" (JBP) is in overdrive regarding reasons DeSantis isn't inclined to veto HB7021. Seems I just can't get my pre-frontal cortex to empathize with the hospitalists. I'll have to work on that.
I can't find it in PACER yet, but a civil suit was filed to gain access to a state statute that is a Felony Class III for the illegal practice of medicine by a foreign entity or CMS for the jab mandate in Utah (District 10). The Plaintiffs I believe but cannot confirm, are the plastic surgeons with the Craniofacial Foundation of Utah, since at the end of this month they lose the privilege to practice at hospitals for refusing the jab.
The suit is a different attack vector: Bio-warfare, Anit-Trust, Racketeering, Collusion etc. citing Federal statutes or USC. This is the wedge that Dr. David Martin & team needs. This hopefully will open the floodgates rapidly. If courts do not remediate Fraud & the largest enterprise crime in history, then they failed, and the constitution is VERY clear on what needs to happen next.
"The upshot of the calls was that the governor doesn’t seem inclined to veto, fearing that any hospitals that do relax Covid mandates will instantly become litigation targets absent the shield."
So...veto it, Guv, and tell the legislature to come back with better, more flexible and nuanced legislation. Wouldn't be the first time a chief executive said, "Nope, you can do better. DO better."
C'mon, Ron. You know this.
I can't believe the veto on the hospitals is not going to happen. These people allowed people to die just because the government said so. Who cares if they get opened up to lawsuits! They need to pay for what they did.
I don't understand why a concern over hospitals facing litigation is a valid one. I assume the reason for litigation would be the mistreatment of patients resulting in many cases in death or permanent injury. Shouldn't hospitals and doctors be liable for malpractice and malfeasance? Even if they are following protocols recommended (not legally required) by the CDC--in order to rake in large sums of money? I guess if DeSantis is not willing to veto, a compromise is better than nothing, but it doesn't satisfy me in the least.
Jeff, any thoughts on what you will call the sub stack after Biden gets us out of this mess on the 1st? I was thinking Coffee and HIV? Or Coffee and Myocarditis?
I know for a fact that you have at least one more Coffee and Covid reader. I read it aloud to my husband every morning. I guess he’s more of a C & C listener.
If Biden extended the government emergency, how can the pandemic be declared over? Call it an endemic but keep the emergency in force forever? Sounds like the plan to me. The FDA will approve the mRNA faux vaccine for children, 6 mo.s to 5 years as soon as the SOTU is done. Bank on it. Also, unfortunately, DeSantis is still a politician for all of it.
RE: the probable no go on the veto... Perhaps these hospitals SHOULD be litigated. I mean how many people have died who didn't need to? I know of three people (personally) who were basically killed by three different hospitals in different parts of Florida. Fear of lawsuits is not necessarily a bad thing.
Our side isn't very good at much, is it? Even the governor in shining armor sells out his own supporters. Heaven forbid a business should lose any profits over its atrocities against the population.
I see what DeSantis means about the veto opening up hospitals to liability for killing people. But is that really a bad thing?
Re the risk from injections, "haven’t found evidence" = perhaps what, when I practiced medicine, was the abbreviation we half-jokingly called 'WNL' - it's supposed to stand for 'within normal limits,' but lazy docs might skip that part of the exam, when it then stood for 'we never looked.' Also, absence of evidence =/= evidence of absence.
“Children might be better spreaders of Covid. Maybe. You never know.” 🤣🤣🤣This sums up the CDC’s, FDA’s & NIH’s science throughout Covid. Maybe. You never know!
I hope to never see Fauci's rat face ever, ever again.
The Governor is making a mistake. Hospitals will get sued if they are negligent. That's how people are protected from tyranny through medical directives. Hospitals are knowingly killing people. Why is Governor DeSantis more interested protecting big pharma than the people? Unless this bill is vetoed, DeSantis has lost my support forever. I will no longer back politicians that appear compromised. All the tough talk is old. We need strong leadership when it truly counts. Unless you veto the bill DeSantis, all covid related hospital deaths are on you. You will become part of the problem. Do not let this man off the hook!
Hi, I might have missed something, but what about Biden's recent indefinite extension of the national "emergency" as it was going to expire? Was that so it can be done instead on or around the March 1 campaign kickoff? Or will it stay in place so as to not jeopardize any pharma EUAs?
Yeah, well, my "cheap cynicism" (JBP) is in overdrive regarding reasons DeSantis isn't inclined to veto HB7021. Seems I just can't get my pre-frontal cortex to empathize with the hospitalists. I'll have to work on that.