I can't find it in PACER yet, but a civil suit was filed to gain access to a state statute that is a Felony Class III for the illegal practice of medicine by a foreign entity or CMS for the jab mandate in Utah (District 10). The Plaintiffs I believe but cannot confirm, are the plastic surgeons with the Craniofacial Foundation of Utah, since at the end of this month they lose the privilege to practice at hospitals for refusing the jab.
The suit is a different attack vector: Bio-warfare, Anit-Trust, Racketeering, Collusion etc. citing Federal statutes or USC. This is the wedge that Dr. David Martin & team needs. This hopefully will open the floodgates rapidly. If courts do not remediate Fraud & the largest enterprise crime in history, then they failed, and the constitution is VERY clear on what needs to happen next.
"The upshot of the calls was that the governor doesn’t seem inclined to veto, fearing that any hospitals that do relax Covid mandates will instantly become litigation targets absent the shield."
So...veto it, Guv, and tell the legislature to come back with better, more flexible and nuanced legislation. Wouldn't be the first time a chief executive said, "Nope, you can do better. DO better."
I agree with this approach however if vetoed the Marxist dems will initiate a fear and possibly lawfare campaign saying that if Repubs stay in control the Florida Healthcare system will be ruined..you can take that to the bank.
The Marxist dems will always come back with a fear and smear campaign. We need to stop fearing their tactics. It's time for strong fearless leadership. The people are ready for it now. The politicians need to step up. DeSantis is making a huge mistake. This will cost him in the long run. Just watch.
I can't believe the veto on the hospitals is not going to happen. These people allowed people to die just because the government said so. Who cares if they get opened up to lawsuits! They need to pay for what they did.
“We did great” despite lack of an aggressive effective early and sustained campaign and no real attempt to lobby the legislature or identify who to hold accountable. A too-late request to sign a badly written petition when even well written petitions are nearly always a waste of time, often just a fundraising vehicle, and unlike direct contact you never know if or how it was delivered (with a serious face, or with a wink and a nod) …then silence. No request to follow up with direct emails, letters, calls. The plausible minimum appearance of a campaign. Almost as disappointing as DeSantis sucking up to the hospital industry, doing nothing to fix the bill then signing it and offering lame excuses - “they might get sued”. No S, Sherlock, that’s the point. Then this blog saying he may be right and still no request for lobbying pressure even though DeSantis has another day to veto to send it back for fixes or just flat out do the right thing and veto the whole concept.
Yes agree but it's happening all across the country...the CARES ACT signed into law in May '20 incentivizes
1.admitting patients into the hospital based on a bs PCR test designed to give false positives...admitted & + hospital gets $5k courtesy of you the taxpayer
2. If patient has bad symptoms ie difficulty breathing then place patient on Remdisivir at $$$ money per dose which shuts down your renal system
3. If still can't breath place patient on ventilator to blow out lungs and in many cases die - Hospital receives $39k per patient placed on ventilator! Courtesy of the taxpayer.
No other cheaper more effective drugs / treatments are permitted such as hydroxy chloroquine at $1 a dose or ivermectin which are proven effective and FDA approved for 70 years.....
This is unfathomable that the gov pharma tech community can get away with this
Looks like DeSantis reps the hospital lobby now, not us. So much for that +2 thank you campaign. And what does this say about Jeff, who basically did nothing to pressure him, dead silence for weeks, but has been taking his calls?
I wonder if putting hospitals in this position to have to follow FAuci mandates was done to implement complete socialized medicine..........like Canada and England. God help us
I don't understand why a concern over hospitals facing litigation is a valid one. I assume the reason for litigation would be the mistreatment of patients resulting in many cases in death or permanent injury. Shouldn't hospitals and doctors be liable for malpractice and malfeasance? Even if they are following protocols recommended (not legally required) by the CDC--in order to rake in large sums of money? I guess if DeSantis is not willing to veto, a compromise is better than nothing, but it doesn't satisfy me in the least.
It's a lousy excuse. The bad guys will sue hospitals that relax their Covid mandates? What hospital is even thinking about easing those? The "compromise" gives hospitals the legal option to use other protocols, but they still make loads of money for using the CDC one and killing people. It'll be touted as a free-market solution, where patients can choose hospitals that use the better protocols - but good luck finding one willing to leave all that money on the table when they aren't liable for anything.
What other 'new' (though in many ways it's not new, even two years ago, we now know) disease has, two years later, received blanket immunity for following what are, after all, only *guidelines?* The sub-text for the whole issue is, I'm afraid, that hospital systems spend a lot of money on lobbyists. That's who's lobbying for this bill, even though it covers every type of health professional. The Florida Medical Association is not listed as lobbying for it, nor any pharmacy association.
The incremental steps by government to control health care goes back decades. Can the government issuance of dangerous "standards" be litigated? Lawsuits would likely bankrupt hospitals and possibly the underlying corporate entities, BUT, as in today's letter,
"Since hospitals only get liability protection when they follow government published treatment standards, they are legally locked into the CDC’s deadly remdesivir/ventilator combination."
The root cause would appear to be the agencies convened by, or under oversight of, the Government.
WHY should government be issuing mandatory standards for clinical practice of medicine? Clinical specialists in numerous therapeutic areas convene and develop consensus diagnostic and treatment guidelines based on the available clinical research and epidemiological data. The guidelines are published and offered as recommendations and/best practices.
With the fraudulent experts Fraudci, Collins, and others, the government coerced licensing boards and other organizations to revoke privileges of doctors who wanted to treat patients with other protocols supported by anecdotal evidence. They threatened to take away their licenses and to criminally charge those prescribers. The government enlisted social media and "news" outlets to censor favorable reports of early or alternative treatments, and to promulgate the lies about what the vaxx could and could not do. We know that list could go on and on.
HOW and WHEN do we get to lay out these crimes and malfeasance at brandon's doorstep?
Well, generally, as long as a dr can document that he followed The Guidelines, he is able to escape culpability for poor outcomes. So most doctors nowadays are quite content to work within the confines of The Guidelines.
Should there be a bad outcome and one was not following The Guidelines, one opens himself up to malpractice suits.
It’s sad, but true.
Unfortunately Guidelines are no longer viewed as one of several options. 😓
Jeff, any thoughts on what you will call the sub stack after Biden gets us out of this mess on the 1st? I was thinking Coffee and HIV? Or Coffee and Myocarditis?
I see this whole COVID thing bifurcating right now. You have Narrative 2.0 on the one hand, with various entities ending masks, de-emphasizing cases, questioning the efficacy of the vaccines; but there's also a separate, stubborn other side, like Biden continuing the National Emergency (so he doesn't have to end the EUA), or companies still issuing vax mandates, or SOTUS denying hearing vax mandates for health care workers.
I think we'll still be in Coffee & COVID for a while.
Just like Jeff said in the blog......the shift will be to “Coffee & Margaritas” in honor of the governor. That way there will be expanded leeway as to which time of day you can read the daily “infusion”. And therefore, comments will really start to vary the closer to “happy hour” one decides to jump in.
Why change? According to the faux news, and our government experts, covid is coming to the endemic phase. We will now just live with it. So--- how about a refill ( or another round) of coffee and covid?
Coffee & Covid Management (It is, according to blue state grifters, something to live with and MANAGE; they have no intention of having a post-covid world.)
I know for a fact that you have at least one more Coffee and Covid reader. I read it aloud to my husband every morning. I guess he’s more of a C & C listener.
If Biden extended the government emergency, how can the pandemic be declared over? Call it an endemic but keep the emergency in force forever? Sounds like the plan to me. The FDA will approve the mRNA faux vaccine for children, 6 mo.s to 5 years as soon as the SOTU is done. Bank on it. Also, unfortunately, DeSantis is still a politician for all of it.
That's what I am thinking. Biden extended the emergency indefinitely for a reason. We all know getting the vax on the childhood schedule needs to happen to keep their liability shield. And who knows what will be happening in Ukraine to distract us all from more shenanigans.
It will never be over...until the midterms are stolen or called off due to national security reasons? What do you think Russia / Ukraine is all about? Obama Biden love Russia they love the tyranny - In 2014 when the dems were in control there was barely a peep when Russia took out and rolled over the crimea.
That is not hope. I’m done with Trump. He allowed these death shots to be produced in “warp speed”. He is part of this tryanny and ignorance is no excuse.
Right, Trump would Never mandate the shot . But he is playing 4d chess with the enemy, so give him the benefit of the doubt on what he's going through.
I've never heard Himself pushing the vaccines. Others may say he did, but I would parse His words carefully. And not what someone said he said.
He didn't "allow" the shots to be produced. He put together companies who could work together to produce a vaccine. They weren't successful and we still don't have a vaccine. But we are further down the road to getting a vaccine. Bidens people came in and took over. So now the researchers are running scared.
Novavax is soon to have their vaccine attempt approved for use. It's not mRNA. Hopefully it will be effective. One needs to study their info.
But Trump got the ball rolling and is to be commended. Dont believe the propaganda from the Biden adm.
Trump continues to recommend the clot shot to his own supporters. He also promoted the known toxic killer, Remdesivir. It's impossible to defend Trump for being so uninformed about the deadly outcome of his own WARP SPEED vaccine initiative.
Well, I am not holding my breath for Novavax. Remember, folks have been working for DECADES for a safe and effective vaccine against the common cold. They have been unsuccessful. The ferrets died or at least had worse disease after vax than without. Toddlers immunized for RSV in the 60s or 70s ended up sicker than those with no vax. None of those were mRNA shots.
For sure, the mRNA platform has its own issues. But, still have issues of any injected vax producing the wrong category of antibodies for best immunity (they stimulate serum IgG when what is needed is mucosal IgA), antibody-dependent enhancement, and original antigenic sin. See Dr Malone and Geert Vanden Bosche.
RE: the probable no go on the veto... Perhaps these hospitals SHOULD be litigated. I mean how many people have died who didn't need to? I know of three people (personally) who were basically killed by three different hospitals in different parts of Florida. Fear of lawsuits is not necessarily a bad thing.
Our side isn't very good at much, is it? Even the governor in shining armor sells out his own supporters. Heaven forbid a business should lose any profits over its atrocities against the population.
Depends on the lawsuits. It would open up a whole bunch of possible lawsuits and that could drain everything, leaving no hospitals at all. Similarly, it could lead to hospitals doing virtually nothing because of the possibility of being sued because they dared to try anything. Sadly, litigation threats carry more weight than doing their best for the patient. I would like to see more options for the hospitals to use, though. Maybe the compromise will allow for that. I'm following along to see what comes of this.
I'm not a legal expert for sure, but how is this case different from any other thing the hospitals do? They try to heal patients and sometimes make mistakes, and sometimes get sued. The better job they do (e.g. not killing people and listening to their patients), they will probably get sued less. Not an expert though :)
Re the risk from injections, "haven’t found evidence" = perhaps what, when I practiced medicine, was the abbreviation we half-jokingly called 'WNL' - it's supposed to stand for 'within normal limits,' but lazy docs might skip that part of the exam, when it then stood for 'we never looked.' Also, absence of evidence =/= evidence of absence.
“Children might be better spreaders of Covid. Maybe. You never know.” 🤣🤣🤣This sums up the CDC’s, FDA’s & NIH’s science throughout Covid. Maybe. You never know!
The Governor is making a mistake. Hospitals will get sued if they are negligent. That's how people are protected from tyranny through medical directives. Hospitals are knowingly killing people. Why is Governor DeSantis more interested protecting big pharma than the people? Unless this bill is vetoed, DeSantis has lost my support forever. I will no longer back politicians that appear compromised. All the tough talk is old. We need strong leadership when it truly counts. Unless you veto the bill DeSantis, all covid related hospital deaths are on you. You will become part of the problem. Do not let this man off the hook!
Hi, I might have missed something, but what about Biden's recent indefinite extension of the national "emergency" as it was going to expire? Was that so it can be done instead on or around the March 1 campaign kickoff? Or will it stay in place so as to not jeopardize any pharma EUAs?
Yeah, well, my "cheap cynicism" (JBP) is in overdrive regarding reasons DeSantis isn't inclined to veto HB7021. Seems I just can't get my pre-frontal cortex to empathize with the hospitalists. I'll have to work on that.
I can't find it in PACER yet, but a civil suit was filed to gain access to a state statute that is a Felony Class III for the illegal practice of medicine by a foreign entity or CMS for the jab mandate in Utah (District 10). The Plaintiffs I believe but cannot confirm, are the plastic surgeons with the Craniofacial Foundation of Utah, since at the end of this month they lose the privilege to practice at hospitals for refusing the jab.
The suit is a different attack vector: Bio-warfare, Anit-Trust, Racketeering, Collusion etc. citing Federal statutes or USC. This is the wedge that Dr. David Martin & team needs. This hopefully will open the floodgates rapidly. If courts do not remediate Fraud & the largest enterprise crime in history, then they failed, and the constitution is VERY clear on what needs to happen next.
Please share cause # once it hits PACER. Thanks!
"The upshot of the calls was that the governor doesn’t seem inclined to veto, fearing that any hospitals that do relax Covid mandates will instantly become litigation targets absent the shield."
So...veto it, Guv, and tell the legislature to come back with better, more flexible and nuanced legislation. Wouldn't be the first time a chief executive said, "Nope, you can do better. DO better."
C'mon, Ron. You know this.
I agree with this approach however if vetoed the Marxist dems will initiate a fear and possibly lawfare campaign saying that if Repubs stay in control the Florida Healthcare system will be ruined..you can take that to the bank.
The Marxist dems will always come back with a fear and smear campaign. We need to stop fearing their tactics. It's time for strong fearless leadership. The people are ready for it now. The politicians need to step up. DeSantis is making a huge mistake. This will cost him in the long run. Just watch.
New: https://off-guardian.org/2022/02/23/letter-to-ron-desantis/
He's as corrupt as any other https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/why-every-congressperson-and-senator?r=19pn6t&utm_source=url
Look at a past bill this authoritian passed
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/sep/9/florida-anti-riot-law-is-unconstitutional-federal-/
I can't believe the veto on the hospitals is not going to happen. These people allowed people to die just because the government said so. Who cares if they get opened up to lawsuits! They need to pay for what they did.
Isn’t there a way to get around hospital protection?? Some lawyer will figure out a way. How does the Nuremberg Code fit into this??
“We did great” despite lack of an aggressive effective early and sustained campaign and no real attempt to lobby the legislature or identify who to hold accountable. A too-late request to sign a badly written petition when even well written petitions are nearly always a waste of time, often just a fundraising vehicle, and unlike direct contact you never know if or how it was delivered (with a serious face, or with a wink and a nod) …then silence. No request to follow up with direct emails, letters, calls. The plausible minimum appearance of a campaign. Almost as disappointing as DeSantis sucking up to the hospital industry, doing nothing to fix the bill then signing it and offering lame excuses - “they might get sued”. No S, Sherlock, that’s the point. Then this blog saying he may be right and still no request for lobbying pressure even though DeSantis has another day to veto to send it back for fixes or just flat out do the right thing and veto the whole concept.
Yes agree but it's happening all across the country...the CARES ACT signed into law in May '20 incentivizes
1.admitting patients into the hospital based on a bs PCR test designed to give false positives...admitted & + hospital gets $5k courtesy of you the taxpayer
2. If patient has bad symptoms ie difficulty breathing then place patient on Remdisivir at $$$ money per dose which shuts down your renal system
3. If still can't breath place patient on ventilator to blow out lungs and in many cases die - Hospital receives $39k per patient placed on ventilator! Courtesy of the taxpayer.
No other cheaper more effective drugs / treatments are permitted such as hydroxy chloroquine at $1 a dose or ivermectin which are proven effective and FDA approved for 70 years.....
This is unfathomable that the gov pharma tech community can get away with this
3. If patient still
I understand but if DeSantis stops it in his state it will set the precedence for the rest of country.
Looks like DeSantis reps the hospital lobby now, not us. So much for that +2 thank you campaign. And what does this say about Jeff, who basically did nothing to pressure him, dead silence for weeks, but has been taking his calls?
or is it about collapsing our current healthcare system and the hospitals took the money without thinking it thru................
Hospitals murdered people and they thought it through. DeSantis helped them do it
I wonder if putting hospitals in this position to have to follow FAuci mandates was done to implement complete socialized medicine..........like Canada and England. God help us
I don't understand why a concern over hospitals facing litigation is a valid one. I assume the reason for litigation would be the mistreatment of patients resulting in many cases in death or permanent injury. Shouldn't hospitals and doctors be liable for malpractice and malfeasance? Even if they are following protocols recommended (not legally required) by the CDC--in order to rake in large sums of money? I guess if DeSantis is not willing to veto, a compromise is better than nothing, but it doesn't satisfy me in the least.
It's a lousy excuse. The bad guys will sue hospitals that relax their Covid mandates? What hospital is even thinking about easing those? The "compromise" gives hospitals the legal option to use other protocols, but they still make loads of money for using the CDC one and killing people. It'll be touted as a free-market solution, where patients can choose hospitals that use the better protocols - but good luck finding one willing to leave all that money on the table when they aren't liable for anything.
Yes, it sounds like an excuse to me. That's what malpractice insurance is for.
What other 'new' (though in many ways it's not new, even two years ago, we now know) disease has, two years later, received blanket immunity for following what are, after all, only *guidelines?* The sub-text for the whole issue is, I'm afraid, that hospital systems spend a lot of money on lobbyists. That's who's lobbying for this bill, even though it covers every type of health professional. The Florida Medical Association is not listed as lobbying for it, nor any pharmacy association.
The incremental steps by government to control health care goes back decades. Can the government issuance of dangerous "standards" be litigated? Lawsuits would likely bankrupt hospitals and possibly the underlying corporate entities, BUT, as in today's letter,
"Since hospitals only get liability protection when they follow government published treatment standards, they are legally locked into the CDC’s deadly remdesivir/ventilator combination."
The root cause would appear to be the agencies convened by, or under oversight of, the Government.
WHY should government be issuing mandatory standards for clinical practice of medicine? Clinical specialists in numerous therapeutic areas convene and develop consensus diagnostic and treatment guidelines based on the available clinical research and epidemiological data. The guidelines are published and offered as recommendations and/best practices.
With the fraudulent experts Fraudci, Collins, and others, the government coerced licensing boards and other organizations to revoke privileges of doctors who wanted to treat patients with other protocols supported by anecdotal evidence. They threatened to take away their licenses and to criminally charge those prescribers. The government enlisted social media and "news" outlets to censor favorable reports of early or alternative treatments, and to promulgate the lies about what the vaxx could and could not do. We know that list could go on and on.
HOW and WHEN do we get to lay out these crimes and malfeasance at brandon's doorstep?
Well, generally, as long as a dr can document that he followed The Guidelines, he is able to escape culpability for poor outcomes. So most doctors nowadays are quite content to work within the confines of The Guidelines.
Should there be a bad outcome and one was not following The Guidelines, one opens himself up to malpractice suits.
It’s sad, but true.
Unfortunately Guidelines are no longer viewed as one of several options. 😓
Hospitals have the power through the Federal government. The people have nothing.
Agree! And they can take all the money they raked in from the Feds to pay those families. They made tons!
Jeff, any thoughts on what you will call the sub stack after Biden gets us out of this mess on the 1st? I was thinking Coffee and HIV? Or Coffee and Myocarditis?
you could just do Coffee Post-COVID. we will have years and years of recriminations and lawsuits.
Coffee and Climate Change?
Legal Grounds
Good one!!
Made me lol
Coffee and CLOWNS
Muddy Waters
Java Jeff
China Brew
Wu Brew
nice!
I see this whole COVID thing bifurcating right now. You have Narrative 2.0 on the one hand, with various entities ending masks, de-emphasizing cases, questioning the efficacy of the vaccines; but there's also a separate, stubborn other side, like Biden continuing the National Emergency (so he doesn't have to end the EUA), or companies still issuing vax mandates, or SOTUS denying hearing vax mandates for health care workers.
I think we'll still be in Coffee & COVID for a while.
“Coffee with Jeff!”
Coffee & Cancer?
Coffee & Communism
Just like Jeff said in the blog......the shift will be to “Coffee & Margaritas” in honor of the governor. That way there will be expanded leeway as to which time of day you can read the daily “infusion”. And therefore, comments will really start to vary the closer to “happy hour” one decides to jump in.
🤣☕️🍹
How about Coffee and Sanity?
Cigarettes and Swine Flu :)
Coffee and WW3
COFFEE. & HIV - some say it is spliced into Covid 19 ? by WIV EHA & NAIAD?
Why change? According to the faux news, and our government experts, covid is coming to the endemic phase. We will now just live with it. So--- how about a refill ( or another round) of coffee and covid?
Coffee & Covid Management (It is, according to blue state grifters, something to live with and MANAGE; they have no intention of having a post-covid world.)
Welcome to the world of government terrorism of Oregon hostages.
I know for a fact that you have at least one more Coffee and Covid reader. I read it aloud to my husband every morning. I guess he’s more of a C & C listener.
I read it aloud to my husband too!
If Biden extended the government emergency, how can the pandemic be declared over? Call it an endemic but keep the emergency in force forever? Sounds like the plan to me. The FDA will approve the mRNA faux vaccine for children, 6 mo.s to 5 years as soon as the SOTU is done. Bank on it. Also, unfortunately, DeSantis is still a politician for all of it.
That's what I am thinking. Biden extended the emergency indefinitely for a reason. We all know getting the vax on the childhood schedule needs to happen to keep their liability shield. And who knows what will be happening in Ukraine to distract us all from more shenanigans.
It will never be over...until the midterms are stolen or called off due to national security reasons? What do you think Russia / Ukraine is all about? Obama Biden love Russia they love the tyranny - In 2014 when the dems were in control there was barely a peep when Russia took out and rolled over the crimea.
We can hope Trump will "run" in 2024 but what's to prevent a repeat of the 2020 election theft?
That is not hope. I’m done with Trump. He allowed these death shots to be produced in “warp speed”. He is part of this tryanny and ignorance is no excuse.
Trump got fooled by Fauci and Birx. But don't forget, Trump would never mandate the shot
Right, Trump would Never mandate the shot . But he is playing 4d chess with the enemy, so give him the benefit of the doubt on what he's going through.
I've never heard Himself pushing the vaccines. Others may say he did, but I would parse His words carefully. And not what someone said he said.
He didn't "allow" the shots to be produced. He put together companies who could work together to produce a vaccine. They weren't successful and we still don't have a vaccine. But we are further down the road to getting a vaccine. Bidens people came in and took over. So now the researchers are running scared.
Novavax is soon to have their vaccine attempt approved for use. It's not mRNA. Hopefully it will be effective. One needs to study their info.
But Trump got the ball rolling and is to be commended. Dont believe the propaganda from the Biden adm.
Trump continues to recommend the clot shot to his own supporters. He also promoted the known toxic killer, Remdesivir. It's impossible to defend Trump for being so uninformed about the deadly outcome of his own WARP SPEED vaccine initiative.
I’ve been watching the Novavax closely, but the so-called “nanoparticles” they include in the formulation has me wondering about it too.
There really are no effective vaccines. What you get in exchange is usually worse than what you think your vaccinating against.
Well, I am not holding my breath for Novavax. Remember, folks have been working for DECADES for a safe and effective vaccine against the common cold. They have been unsuccessful. The ferrets died or at least had worse disease after vax than without. Toddlers immunized for RSV in the 60s or 70s ended up sicker than those with no vax. None of those were mRNA shots.
For sure, the mRNA platform has its own issues. But, still have issues of any injected vax producing the wrong category of antibodies for best immunity (they stimulate serum IgG when what is needed is mucosal IgA), antibody-dependent enhancement, and original antigenic sin. See Dr Malone and Geert Vanden Bosche.
hillary sold russia our uranium back when she was in power
Keeping in mind that “Cookies” Nuland was at the Maidan Square where marksmen were shooting both sides…..
"If Biden extended the government emergency, how can the pandemic be declared over?"
EXACTLY!
Pandemic is code for Agenda 2030
Agree, how can the pandemic be declared over when the government emergency has been extended with no end date? What are they up to?
RE: the probable no go on the veto... Perhaps these hospitals SHOULD be litigated. I mean how many people have died who didn't need to? I know of three people (personally) who were basically killed by three different hospitals in different parts of Florida. Fear of lawsuits is not necessarily a bad thing.
it's going to happen, eventually.
It must happen!
Our side isn't very good at much, is it? Even the governor in shining armor sells out his own supporters. Heaven forbid a business should lose any profits over its atrocities against the population.
I am VERY disappointed in the Commander, regardless of his "reasons".
I’m disappointed in the “general” too. This lobbying campaign was a joke. Smells like a game.
I see what DeSantis means about the veto opening up hospitals to liability for killing people. But is that really a bad thing?
Depends on the lawsuits. It would open up a whole bunch of possible lawsuits and that could drain everything, leaving no hospitals at all. Similarly, it could lead to hospitals doing virtually nothing because of the possibility of being sued because they dared to try anything. Sadly, litigation threats carry more weight than doing their best for the patient. I would like to see more options for the hospitals to use, though. Maybe the compromise will allow for that. I'm following along to see what comes of this.
I'm not a legal expert for sure, but how is this case different from any other thing the hospitals do? They try to heal patients and sometimes make mistakes, and sometimes get sued. The better job they do (e.g. not killing people and listening to their patients), they will probably get sued less. Not an expert though :)
Re the risk from injections, "haven’t found evidence" = perhaps what, when I practiced medicine, was the abbreviation we half-jokingly called 'WNL' - it's supposed to stand for 'within normal limits,' but lazy docs might skip that part of the exam, when it then stood for 'we never looked.' Also, absence of evidence =/= evidence of absence.
WNL 🤣
“Children might be better spreaders of Covid. Maybe. You never know.” 🤣🤣🤣This sums up the CDC’s, FDA’s & NIH’s science throughout Covid. Maybe. You never know!
"Science!", they exclaimed.
"Shut up!", they explained.
I hope to never see Fauci's rat face ever, ever again.
Maybe he died unexpectedly in his sleep. 😉😋
There’s no way he really got jabbed.
Lol! A girl can dream!
Maybe they shipped him off to work in a lab in China.
He's on his way out. Retirement or death or both. God has heard the prayers. This mass murderer will be facing the final judgment soon.
The Governor is making a mistake. Hospitals will get sued if they are negligent. That's how people are protected from tyranny through medical directives. Hospitals are knowingly killing people. Why is Governor DeSantis more interested protecting big pharma than the people? Unless this bill is vetoed, DeSantis has lost my support forever. I will no longer back politicians that appear compromised. All the tough talk is old. We need strong leadership when it truly counts. Unless you veto the bill DeSantis, all covid related hospital deaths are on you. You will become part of the problem. Do not let this man off the hook!
Perhaps you should email his office?
Hi, I might have missed something, but what about Biden's recent indefinite extension of the national "emergency" as it was going to expire? Was that so it can be done instead on or around the March 1 campaign kickoff? Or will it stay in place so as to not jeopardize any pharma EUAs?
Probably more so they can keep the EUA going. :/
Yeah, well, my "cheap cynicism" (JBP) is in overdrive regarding reasons DeSantis isn't inclined to veto HB7021. Seems I just can't get my pre-frontal cortex to empathize with the hospitalists. I'll have to work on that.
could be because they are destroying the practice of medicine? driving good doctors out of the field?
Guessing that protecting monied interests is more expedient than saving human lives.
Well, he was "inclined" to veto it before he didn't. Like Kerry Cohen was against the war before he was for it.