You can judge a book by it's cover, people that say otherwise are either hopelessly naïve or deliberately trying to disable other's God-given sense of discernment. It's also a favorite tactics among groomers to soften up their targets.
People with face tats, lots of visible piercings, unnatural hair color, wrong sex clothes, gangster clothes, and/or clothes with obscene or anti-social words are making a statement. That statement is that they reject societal norms and the order it brings. I take them at their word and avoid them, and teach my kids the same. I also teach them to constantly be aware of their surroundings and continually evaluate risk. If anything makes them feel uneasy they are to leave immediately and I will always back them up, regardless of whose feelings it hurts.
I'm sure there are some that will say it's judgmental and they are right it absolutely is. God gave us a sense of discernment for a reason though. And in six decades on this planet I've never been mugged, robbed, assaulted, or suffered any of the other indignities the "non-judgmental" seem to regularly experience.
You stated this so well. Absolutely the clothes, piercings and tattoos ARE making a statement. And I use my God-given discernment to recognize and avoid such people. And thank you for the tip about pepper gel. I'll be looking into it.
A couple of years ago there was a study put out that confirmed that people who choose to tat up their bodies actually DO live riskier life styles. I take this under consideration and react accordingly.
True about making a statement with how you present yourself.
However, they are changing societal norms. They would be looney outcasts and homosexuality was shunned in the 50s.
With each generation, they become more hedonistic and tolerant of vile things that are ungodly.
God knows this and will end it.
Titus 1:15 To the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are corrupted and do not believe, nothing is pure. In fact, both their minds and consciences are corrupted.
2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.
I hope the parents sue University of Georgia. We visited there with our daughter in 2019 and it was so incredibly woke. They welcomed all kids with varying sexual orientations, then people of color. If you were white and straight, you weren’t included in the welcome which was at 2/3rds of the room. It was so off putting. They owe the students who pay to go there safety and should have to do serious background checks on all people employed on campus. And if they find crime or illegals, they should not hire them. It’s the least they could do. Her life is gone because University of Georgia along with the Biden Administration didn’t do their jobs.
Brilliantly said. I think maybe another word for this is "instincts". I listen to my gut - my instincts - and so far it has not been wrong (or at least not that I have noticed.) I'd rather be "judgmental" than beaten up, raped, killed, robbed, etc.
I’ve always wished someone would invent a phone case that doubled as a taser or stun gun. I understand that this will never happen due to the fact that it would destroy your phone, but man.... if every woman could have a taser in her hands at all times without it being obvious.... that would be great.
Valerie - we should all be taking self defense classes. I know how to use a gun, but I’m still not comfortable with it. I’m comfortable with “going for the jellies” though. 💪💪💪
Yes, some skilled instruction in self-defense IS a good idea. But one thing I do not understand has been expressed a lot here: many are "uncomfortable" with stronger tools, and some have expressed a real reluctance to having a firearm handy. Some are uncomfortable with a string pepper spray but seem OK with a milder one. A question (rhetorical, no need to answer here, but you can if you want to).. are you more comfortable if the situation confronting you would only make you scared, and less so if it, say, got you a smashed in face, or even a broken leg... or dead? No ne being atacked or serously threatened can know how dedicated the perp is to winning.. nor does anyone know what the perp classifies as "sinning". Sometimes all he wants is to scare you. sometimes he will take what he wants, whether your goods, money, health, car, or life And you will never KNOW until the incident is all over. So WHY worry about harming him more (as with a stronger pepper gel) or less (as with wasp spray) if he really wants your life, or the use of your body for his pleasure? Carry a handgun and KNOW how and when to use it. There are smaller cheaper ones that are still lethal if properly used, are light and small, ad your attacker will ONLY notice that point three eight inch diameter hole into shich he is very anxiously staring.. he won't take the time toread the brand name. Try several, find one that fits YOUR hand and points naturally for YOU. Personally I carry one the same size and calibre as these little cheapies, but it is a precision instrument and very reliable. Yes it cost more.. so what? I started with the cheaper ones. but i am an avid road cyclist and the cheap ones did not fare well in the "tool roll" I carry in the right back pocket on the typical cycling jersey (three pockets across the back low down) In fifteen years of carryig this NO ONE not even the rotten copper harrassing me ever "made" that gun's presence.
SO now you've got the tool... next you MUST learn to be confident and effective with it. I'd start by getting and reading Massad Ayoob's foundational book on the topic, "in the gravest extreme". He will lay out the mindset necesary to always have a deadly weapon with you. He is a retired cop, one of the top firrearms trainers in the nation, an expert witness in every aspect of lethal force actions, and one of the best marksmen out there. I've met the man and worked with him, hes a great guy.
For very low cost high;y effective basic handgu handing course, there is nothing better (unless you have a good froend/close relative who is well versed in guns) than the pistol programme Appleseed present. It is a two day course, you bring yours and over the time you WILL become comfortable and profficient in a very friendly setting, even if you have never fired a gun in your life. Cost for the weekend is I believe will under a hundred bucks. Go to appleseed (no space) info dot org. Webpage popes up, left upper corner click on the events box. Map comes up, click on your or nearby states, Look at the "pistol clinics" but there are other types of events.. rifle, distance,etc. I've been an instructor with this outfit for fifteen years now, so far only in long guns. All volunteer citizens just like yourself. I have not kept track but I'm certain I have worked with at least a thousand folks with rifles, some as young as six years old, and one gentleman who was ninety six. With Mas' book you will have the practical and letal knowledge to conduct yourself wisely, legally, and safely, and with the Appleseed weekend you will then have the practical confidence that results from being comfortable handling and using your chosen defensive tool. You WILL walk about in public witth a level of comfort and confidence that, all by itself, will set you apart as 'this one is NOT a victim". And yet the wisdom to still avoid the risky scenaria when possible. As Mas is famous for saying "any gun will do if YOU will do", and "the best gunfight you will ever be in is the one you avoided".
Tio, thanks for the info! I had no idea. I need to get more involved with events like that. The last time I went to gun training was under Jeff Cooper at Gunsite in 1980. Took the combat handgun and the assault rifle courses. Good times. I'm now in NW FL.
I took Tae Kwon Do when I was in my 30s, and the biggest lesson I learned was how having that capability to take someone out gives you the confidence you need to almost never have to use that power. However, knowledge of your ability gives you strength and power to stand up to someone as necessary and hopefully defuse a situation but you know you can meet force with force if necessary. I would say it's similar with a gun.
It’s not firearms-specific or even (unarmed) self-defense centered, but rather a personal security strategy seminar. I recommend it for everyone, especially women and young children. Each person can choose the “tools” they prefer to defend themselves, but this will get you thinking about all the other aspects of situational awareness and strategies for staying alert. Even if you've taken it before, might be time for a refresher.
I know this sounds silly, but I have begun to notice where all the ‘other’ exits are. In grocery stores and ‘big box’ stores there are so many ways to get out of there is an armed idiot cones in.
That would force a hyperextension in the opposition direction it is designed to go, and that would be excruciatingly painful, and definitely incapacitating.
Self defense has multiple levels. The last being physical fighting which is street fighting. It’s brutal. You must believe you are fighting for your life. These days I am not sure a court would side with a woman defending herself. I think we’re screwed one way or another. I sound like Debbie Downer
In high school, there was this gang of boys continually picking on me ... knocking books out my hands and so on. One day I got fed up and had it out with a guy outside of school. Word must have gotten around because the whole school seem to be out in numbers on the field of contest to witness this gladiatorial contest. I was not the favorite as I was the much smaller guy. But I fought defensively at first, wearing the other guy down. Once I saw his arms dropping, I started belting him with some good hits. And then suddenly something most astonishing and unexpected happened. The antagonist dropped his hands and said, "I have to go to soccer practice now!" That's when I said to myself after all the months of harassment, "You SOB!" And smashed him around but good. It was then that the principal came out, took us to the office and gave us each a week's suspension from school. But guess what? It was worth every bit of it! Because after that ... nobody ever bothered me again.
This should be a lesson to everyone of us who is fed up with the insane calamity going in our once upon a time country now badly in need of reclaiming. That one must FIGHT for one's self or otherwise suffer abuse.
I think of all the soldiers sitting in Leavenworth right now bc they defended themselves against guys def wanting to kill them. Sad state of affairs. Best advice is to try and not put yourself in harms way.
My ex was 6'2" and a big guy. I took a self defense class (not because of him) in which I learned if someone had me from behind in a choke hold, all I had to do was bend over and that would likely be enough to get him off balance and possibly on the ground. So, I came home and told my ex I learned how to put an attacker on the ground. He said I couldn't. I said put me in a choke hold. He did, and I got him just enough off balance to have him stumbling. Had I continued, I could have gotten him to the ground. We were still a couple then so obviously I didn't want to harm him. Never had a chance to use it in real life, thankfully.... knock on wood.
Good job. The element of surprise is a huge advantage. That’s why I encourage people not to practice with people they know. I am glad you haven’t had to use it. But it empowering to know
When I was a little girl my father taught me if someone wants to hurt me then that is no time to fight fair. He taught me how to slam a knee into guy's family jewels, slam a palm or fist into their nose to try to drive the nose bone into the attacker's brain, and if needed poke their eyes out with my fingers. Point: take them down fast so I'd have time to run away. He also drilled me never to let any strangers close enough to grab me. "Don't talk to strangers!" Decades later, I learned our part of the county in those years had many snatch, murder and rape cases of young women and children.
Remember the school bus children buried after being highjacked in Chowchilla, California by rich kids for ransom? Once driving near one of their family homes about the same year as that kidnapping, my Mom and I got broadsided repeatedly by a junker station wagon, nearly pushed off a twisty mountain road by them or their pals. She raced her car after them and scared them off as they tried to do the same for thrills to another car. Lesson: don't just fight for yourself, fight for others, too, never be a scared bystander. Local police and sheriffs could no nothing, they said, because the bashing car had no license plates. Unreal.
A video called “how to say no to rapist” was shown at my school. It was awesome. Wish I could find it again. It stayed with me... so when I had a daughter, I taught her everything I learned in it. Taking martial arts re-enforced those lessons.
A.J. Yes, I remember Chowchilla. I grew up in the Central Valley. But I do not remember there being twisty mountain roads there...it's the valley, right? Flat. And that bus..they buried the whole thing! Can you imagine that now? They would not make the effort now!
They hijacked the bus in the flats near Chowchilla in the Central Valley then drove it to a quarry owned by one of the kidnappers' fathers near Livermore Valley where they buried a van with the children taken from the schoolbus. The kidnappers lived in Portola Valley and Woodside area in the coastal foothills. All are now out on parole. The ringleader, Woods, bribed witnesses to get parole in 2022.
Where some yahoos boys repeatedly broadsided my mother's car, with me in it, was on a twisty mountain road only about 3 blocks away from where the lead kidnapper's family lived in Portola Valley. After the kidnapping publicity died down his family gave their old family house and extensive surrounding land, the "Hawthorns," to an open space organization which has yet to open it to the public.
I hike alone quite a bit and I never go without my Zap hiking stick, (has a hidden taser on it). I got it for extra protection out on the trail. You can get it on Amazon. Last year, on a trail ride in AZ, our group encountered illegals. You never know. I don’t want to be that “one”.
Great idea, I’ve never heard of one. I also hike by myself and sometimes I get a creepy feeling that someone is watching me. Then of course my imagination runs wild. The pepper gel in my pocket isn’t super handy, but a walking stick taser would be. I assume it would work on a cougar?
My niece jogs in Joshua Tree California and she has a key ring weapon and bear spray, due to meth heads. Another tactic I learned a long time ago is to act crazy if you can't escape. Babble, wet your pants, fall down and eat grass or gravel, roll around. Attackers depend on your fear and your reactions (just like Democrats and Big Pharma lol), but if they can't predict you they might just rob you and leave. It is a bit off putting to all but the most perverse if one has wet one's pants.
In the 90’s on the way home late at night, I was going to the last stop on the R train to Bay Ridge.
I got scared of a guy casing me out. I started mumbling and pacing and scratching my head, on the platform. It worked.& that was in such a different time! Before cell phones & the pay phones were Always broken down in the subway.
I’m currently drooling over the Byrna less-lethal pistol. They make a model that is “legal” in California. I’m balking at the price, but I’ll likely suck it up and get the damn thing.
Michigan sucks! Better to be attacked and suffer the consequences? Or I guess Gretchen WHitler would rather people carry and shoot rather than spray? Makes zero sense.
Michigan does suck so massively! Now Governor Witless is advocating people giving illegal immigrants the spare rooms in your house, whom she naturally insists are just asylum seekers and refugees. My feverishly imagined conspiracy theory about this, since the globalists could care how many people they sacrifice, is that Dearborn and Dearborn Heights Muslim extremists will take in Hamas and Hezbollah and other extremists, who will then attack a city in Michigan in a terrorist attack, which she will, having been coached on the script, improve her presidential or national political bona fides with how she handles it. The actual asylum seekers, who are not gang members or human traffickers and pornographers, will be funneled into pride CRT DEI schools and be forced into the childhood vaccine schedule. But I'm stuck like Ground Hog day in imagining worst case scenarios lol.
She’s totally insane. I told my husband that I certainly hope her vacation home in Elk Rapids has been filled with illegals - she has plenty of room to help out. Me, not so much - only one home and it’s full of kids and animals and guns and ammo.
Has the governor with this great idea offered up any of her assorted spare rooms? She's likely to have multiple spare rooms in her multiple houses. Fill 'em up!!
If engaging with a pistol is legal, I'd want one in MY hand that is not in he category of "less lethal". Bringing ANY firearm into a situation is a game changer, but in the eyes of the law they are all still a firearm, and size means nothing.
IF the situation justifies the introduction of lethal force, engage with LETHAL force and don't play in the sandbox. Under the law you can only bring a firearm into a situation when your life, or someone else's life, is under imminent and grave danger of death or permanent bodily injury. If it ever comes down to some jerk(s) wanting my car keys, wallet, etc, and he is using HIS size/threat of bodily harm, and it looks like "him or me" it will be HIM getting the holes punched. And I will always have the means to do that upin my person. And hope I never have to make that decision.. for fifteen or twenty years now, this has been the case. Never had ti introduce anyone else to "my little friend" and I pray that winning streak cintinues.
Who is going to testify in Court that you life was not in grave danger? It's your word vs. the perpetrator, only he/she won't have a voice will he/she? '-)
I go everywhere with my little friend, in my Flashbang holster. And usually there is a nice knife in my pocket, in case I see a turtle wrapped in a Bud Light 6 pack holder.
I've travelled the world extensively, and I have always maintained it is critical to project the image you are in control and aware of your surroundings. Not out of fear, just common sense.
There have been surveys also where criminals have been shown videos and asked who they would attack and the general consensus was "people who walk 'disorganizedly'" -- not purposefully and not aware.
We’ve literally been taught not to trust our intuition because it’s “profiling” people. In fact, that intuition is very often correct, especially for those of us who are spiritually aware. I’d rather trust my intuition and be wrong then not trust it and be dead.
I was with a group of epidemiologists shortly after 9/11, and one of them virtue-signalled by saying how immoral it would be to be extra suspicious of men from certain Middle Eastern countries. The first outbreak case we all learned was salmonella in the potato salad, from the egg-containing mayonnaise, and in outbreak investigations we always look for foods with known associations with certain pathogens. So I said, "And what would be wrong with that, epidemiologically speaking?" One of the others laughed; no one else had a response. We must always keep an open mind, so as not to miss a surprise, but 'post-judice' (contra 'prejudice') is valuable, as it's just judging (thinking critically) based on experience.
Same with health. If someone in the street or a shop looks really unhealthy - feverish for example, it’s intuitive to avoid them. (Unless of course you’re trained & it’s your job to help). Our instincts down the generations are what got us here. We often know on a gut level how to avoid danger.
That nickname came about when we were among the first, if not the first, to become a 'shall issue' state, meaning that if someone applied for a concealed carry permit it shall be issued unless there is a legal bar to issuance. Before that we were a 'may issue' state. Now we are the last Republican-led state to have true constitutional carry. Our legislature passed permitless concealed carry last year, but not open carry. More states allow open carry than permitless concealed carry; only Illinois, New York, and Florida have bans on open carry (though Florida allows it while camping, fishing, and hunting, or traveling directly to or from these activities). Even California allows open carry in rural areas. There probably are leftover bumper stickers or t-shirts or whatever from back in the day; Florida is shaped roughly like a pistol, and that was used in the graphics.
You could add to the "head on a swivel": "you don't want to be a statistic" or "you don't want your 15 minutes of fame to be over your rape and murder." I bet the GA college student didn't think she'd be headline news this week for all the wrong reasons either. I bet she did that run hundreds of times without incident until she became a statistic...
I wonder though, if someone who is strung out on drugs would even be deterred? Only a bullet would would stop that kind a person; and it would have to be a well placed shot too. If you just graze them or get them in a non lethal spot, they will just keep going, kinda like a zombie…..
What you ask is a good question and the answer is no, you have to keep shooting drug users. Empty your clip because they might keep coming at you. I learned that at my first conceal carry class years ago.
My husband still says as a general rule, empty your clip.
"empty your magazne" is bad advice. It could get you conficted of excessive use f force. the LEGALLY permissible standard is "shoot until the threat is neturalised". If that takes one round, you're done. If it takes ten, you're done. But if he's down and still after one round and you keep firing, it can go VERY badly for you.
Well, yes, with corrupt judges today. Maybe I should have said if you’re going to use a gun, shoot to kill. The situation I was referring to in class was an addict who kept coming at her.
no, don't ever "shoot to kill" ONLY ever shoot to "neutralise the threat"
Shoot to kill says you are trying to kill, which is illegal. Neutralise the threat only means I will not be the one to die here and now. Now if the dirtbag is persistent, won't take STOP to heart, and it takes enough holes poked in him that he dies, oh well.
Righteeoh, there. Before I decided to get one and begin taking it wherever i happen to be, I had some false notionsa bout what I could and could not DO with one of those things. I believe I firs saw one of Mas' books, Graves Extreme I blieve, at a gun show, picked it up nd started browing through. In two minutes i realised I NEED to ucate myself, BEFORE I put myself in that position. The chap at the table said "that's the best book ever written on self defense and firearms.
There was a case somewhere in the midwest some years ago.. near a larger city but not in the heart of it. Seems the coppers had a reason to come calling for the chap who resided there and for no very clearly articulated reasons dcided to do it Rambo style... swat team, bust the door down at oh dark thirty, guns in hand and NOT pointed at the floor. Homeowner had NO CLUE what was up, got blasted out of bed by the noise, grabbed his handy dandy bedside handgun came round the corner just into the livingroom and opened fire. It was dark in there, he could not see very well, all he DID see was a couple of folks shining lights into his face and screaming.... as he was firing. Several men screaming in close quarters is never intelligible. His later claim, never disproven because it could NOT be, was that HE was certain there was an unjustified invasion by armed individuals into his own home. Not one person there could provide any data to the contrary. Thus his statement had to stand. NO ONE in that room but Mr. Homeowner knew what he was thinking. He was charged with murder in the first degree as one of the officers never made it home. It was proven in forensics that the bullet that had killed him came from Homeowner's handgun. At trial the jury had to acquit. Why? Not one shred of evidence supported the concept that the guy KNEW they were cops before he opened fire. He walked away a free man, though he did spend some stretch of time in the ol CrowBar Hotel awaiting trial.
Almost every state protects the occupants of a dwelling from any charges if/when they respond to an unannounced or unwanted entrance to that dwelling by anyone who is not invited or authorised to be there by the occupants. The cops in the incident above thought they had the right to be inside that home and learned the painful way that until they had properly served the warrant they did not.
AnnieMarie, you bring up a very valid point. Having spent a career as first responder in Jeff's 'favorite' city I learned to evaluate a situation and often 'talk down' a patient so we could administer proper care. Toward the end of my career I saw more of what you mention. Drug addled people that I could not communicate with, 'crazy' people. A very dangerous situation.
In the civilian realm, distance from the threat is your best option. The more distance the better. A knife in the hands of a perp within 20 feet is as lethal as a firearm, maybe more so. I advocate carrying a firearm, as long as you are trained in its use. Simply firing at will until the bangs stop, which many professional and non professionals do, can injure or kill many bystanders. Know whats beyond your target. Anyone remember the police officer that emptied his clip on his own cruiser because an acorn bounced off the roof? Adrenalin is your friend and your enemy.
Is there one single answer for every situation? No. Be alert, avoid dangerous situations if possible, know your exits if inside. Travel in pairs. I will add pray for protection and discernment. I feel bad for families that are forced to live in lawless crowded cities, often with police that are handcuffed by political feel good policies. If they even have funding. The odds are against the law abiding and innocent today. re read todays first topic, and learn from it. I am incensed by this situation, and know those responsible for creating these policies will never face the results of their mandates. Nor find themselves without their own personal protection detail.
I think if you at least take away a pretty crucial sense (sight) it will give you a chance to escape. But you’re correct, I’ve encountered people as a paramedic with the super strength borne of drug use and they are virtually unstoppable.
Where I used to work in Orlando I was the FSO, but the liberal HR didn't want me to give the front desk receptionist a pepper spray, despite several vagrants coming in and bothering her, especially since she knew spanish...(gee, guess where they were from.._) Anyway, I bought her a 2-pack of wasp spray for the pesky bugs.....
another much safer but probably more effective spray is the mechanic's "Brake Cleaner" spray. It leaves no residue whatever, not poisonous like wasp spray, does not violate EPA or hazmat laws when "not used for intended purpose per federal law" like wasp spray/poison does. It is far cheaper, and I know from personal experience that getting that stuff in your eyes HURTS LIKE ALL GET OUT. A blast of that stuff on someone's face WILL have them on the ground for a while. It also works for yellow jackets as I've been out in the yard wrenching, had a can or that stuff handy, was being tormented by the yellowjackets/hornets, and the stuff drops them instantly. then stomp on em. Having had that stuff bounce off a surface and into MY face I know it would incapacitate any thugs as quickly as it has done me.
Been there Tio Nico and agree completely. Cleaning gutters one day and I ran out of wasp spray. Next best thing was the brake cleaner and I was amazed at the effectiveness. Just out of curiosity, chlorinated or non? And yes, I always wear glasses!
Jogging Protection: Dogs are a reasonable alternative. They like to run, are not afraid of strangers, loyal to a fault, and almost never get accused of racism or profiling. They also have fine-tuned discernment.
My daughter is 5’1”. We started young with martial arts...I even did it with the kids so they were excited to do it. I knew I would not be around to protect her forever. I didn’t wordy when she was at college because I knew she could protect herself and she earned her callsign Might Mouse. Tell your daughter to have confidence to protect themselves... pepper spray won’t do anything if they don’t feel confident in using it.
I still walk out in the back 40 of our conservation district here in northern Illinois. I will until I hear for sure that the 1.8 million square feet empty Motorola plant purchased by the DOD is not going to be housing illegal invaders right outside our small town. Not much news about it but a story about medical glove manufacturing. There was some job openings advertised but not now. I’ve only heard of one person who was hired to pack gloves. With such a huge enterprise there should be some kind of hoopla and such going on. Or even land speculation. But house prices haven’t moved much. Still business plots for sale, etc. WE got royally screwed by Motorola who built an analog cell phone factory while the rest of the world was going digital. Stoooooopid.
You can judge a book by it's cover, people that say otherwise are either hopelessly naïve or deliberately trying to disable other's God-given sense of discernment. It's also a favorite tactics among groomers to soften up their targets.
People with face tats, lots of visible piercings, unnatural hair color, wrong sex clothes, gangster clothes, and/or clothes with obscene or anti-social words are making a statement. That statement is that they reject societal norms and the order it brings. I take them at their word and avoid them, and teach my kids the same. I also teach them to constantly be aware of their surroundings and continually evaluate risk. If anything makes them feel uneasy they are to leave immediately and I will always back them up, regardless of whose feelings it hurts.
I'm sure there are some that will say it's judgmental and they are right it absolutely is. God gave us a sense of discernment for a reason though. And in six decades on this planet I've never been mugged, robbed, assaulted, or suffered any of the other indignities the "non-judgmental" seem to regularly experience.
You stated this so well. Absolutely the clothes, piercings and tattoos ARE making a statement. And I use my God-given discernment to recognize and avoid such people. And thank you for the tip about pepper gel. I'll be looking into it.
I’ve used this brand. No complaints.
https://www.sabrered.com/pepper-gel-vs-pepper-spray
This made me chuckle: "I’ve used this brand (of pepper gel/spray). No complaints."
So, did you actually "use" the pepper gel/spray and your recipient had no complaints? My mind went there!
Be certain to look deeply and look into “C to C”!!! My wife did and does!!!!
It’s like those hilarious memes— only
tragically sad.
“You won’t KNOW I’m a heinous criminal, but there will be signs…”
A couple of years ago there was a study put out that confirmed that people who choose to tat up their bodies actually DO live riskier life styles. I take this under consideration and react accordingly.
She was using her God given innate common sense so desperately lacking in modern society. Good for her!
Wisdom from the mouth of babes. Good job Kim!
and the statement is also - I vote democrat
True about making a statement with how you present yourself.
However, they are changing societal norms. They would be looney outcasts and homosexuality was shunned in the 50s.
With each generation, they become more hedonistic and tolerant of vile things that are ungodly.
God knows this and will end it.
Titus 1:15 To the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are corrupted and do not believe, nothing is pure. In fact, both their minds and consciences are corrupted.
2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.
I hope the parents sue University of Georgia. We visited there with our daughter in 2019 and it was so incredibly woke. They welcomed all kids with varying sexual orientations, then people of color. If you were white and straight, you weren’t included in the welcome which was at 2/3rds of the room. It was so off putting. They owe the students who pay to go there safety and should have to do serious background checks on all people employed on campus. And if they find crime or illegals, they should not hire them. It’s the least they could do. Her life is gone because University of Georgia along with the Biden Administration didn’t do their jobs.
Brilliantly said. I think maybe another word for this is "instincts". I listen to my gut - my instincts - and so far it has not been wrong (or at least not that I have noticed.) I'd rather be "judgmental" than beaten up, raped, killed, robbed, etc.
I’ve always wished someone would invent a phone case that doubled as a taser or stun gun. I understand that this will never happen due to the fact that it would destroy your phone, but man.... if every woman could have a taser in her hands at all times without it being obvious.... that would be great.
Valerie - we should all be taking self defense classes. I know how to use a gun, but I’m still not comfortable with it. I’m comfortable with “going for the jellies” though. 💪💪💪
Yes, some skilled instruction in self-defense IS a good idea. But one thing I do not understand has been expressed a lot here: many are "uncomfortable" with stronger tools, and some have expressed a real reluctance to having a firearm handy. Some are uncomfortable with a string pepper spray but seem OK with a milder one. A question (rhetorical, no need to answer here, but you can if you want to).. are you more comfortable if the situation confronting you would only make you scared, and less so if it, say, got you a smashed in face, or even a broken leg... or dead? No ne being atacked or serously threatened can know how dedicated the perp is to winning.. nor does anyone know what the perp classifies as "sinning". Sometimes all he wants is to scare you. sometimes he will take what he wants, whether your goods, money, health, car, or life And you will never KNOW until the incident is all over. So WHY worry about harming him more (as with a stronger pepper gel) or less (as with wasp spray) if he really wants your life, or the use of your body for his pleasure? Carry a handgun and KNOW how and when to use it. There are smaller cheaper ones that are still lethal if properly used, are light and small, ad your attacker will ONLY notice that point three eight inch diameter hole into shich he is very anxiously staring.. he won't take the time toread the brand name. Try several, find one that fits YOUR hand and points naturally for YOU. Personally I carry one the same size and calibre as these little cheapies, but it is a precision instrument and very reliable. Yes it cost more.. so what? I started with the cheaper ones. but i am an avid road cyclist and the cheap ones did not fare well in the "tool roll" I carry in the right back pocket on the typical cycling jersey (three pockets across the back low down) In fifteen years of carryig this NO ONE not even the rotten copper harrassing me ever "made" that gun's presence.
SO now you've got the tool... next you MUST learn to be confident and effective with it. I'd start by getting and reading Massad Ayoob's foundational book on the topic, "in the gravest extreme". He will lay out the mindset necesary to always have a deadly weapon with you. He is a retired cop, one of the top firrearms trainers in the nation, an expert witness in every aspect of lethal force actions, and one of the best marksmen out there. I've met the man and worked with him, hes a great guy.
For very low cost high;y effective basic handgu handing course, there is nothing better (unless you have a good froend/close relative who is well versed in guns) than the pistol programme Appleseed present. It is a two day course, you bring yours and over the time you WILL become comfortable and profficient in a very friendly setting, even if you have never fired a gun in your life. Cost for the weekend is I believe will under a hundred bucks. Go to appleseed (no space) info dot org. Webpage popes up, left upper corner click on the events box. Map comes up, click on your or nearby states, Look at the "pistol clinics" but there are other types of events.. rifle, distance,etc. I've been an instructor with this outfit for fifteen years now, so far only in long guns. All volunteer citizens just like yourself. I have not kept track but I'm certain I have worked with at least a thousand folks with rifles, some as young as six years old, and one gentleman who was ninety six. With Mas' book you will have the practical and letal knowledge to conduct yourself wisely, legally, and safely, and with the Appleseed weekend you will then have the practical confidence that results from being comfortable handling and using your chosen defensive tool. You WILL walk about in public witth a level of comfort and confidence that, all by itself, will set you apart as 'this one is NOT a victim". And yet the wisdom to still avoid the risky scenaria when possible. As Mas is famous for saying "any gun will do if YOU will do", and "the best gunfight you will ever be in is the one you avoided".
Thank you for posting ... a few Appleseed events are happening over the next few months within 5 miles of my house. I am definitely will be attending.
Tio, thanks for the info! I had no idea. I need to get more involved with events like that. The last time I went to gun training was under Jeff Cooper at Gunsite in 1980. Took the combat handgun and the assault rifle courses. Good times. I'm now in NW FL.
I took Tae Kwon Do when I was in my 30s, and the biggest lesson I learned was how having that capability to take someone out gives you the confidence you need to almost never have to use that power. However, knowledge of your ability gives you strength and power to stand up to someone as necessary and hopefully defuse a situation but you know you can meet force with force if necessary. I would say it's similar with a gun.
The NRA teaches an aptly titled “Refuse to Be a Victim” course:
https://rtbav.nra.org/. Suggest you find one near you!
It’s not firearms-specific or even (unarmed) self-defense centered, but rather a personal security strategy seminar. I recommend it for everyone, especially women and young children. Each person can choose the “tools” they prefer to defend themselves, but this will get you thinking about all the other aspects of situational awareness and strategies for staying alert. Even if you've taken it before, might be time for a refresher.
I know this sounds silly, but I have begun to notice where all the ‘other’ exits are. In grocery stores and ‘big box’ stores there are so many ways to get out of there is an armed idiot cones in.
I counted 28 exits in our WM the other day.
I’ve taken them, but I’m physically unlikely to overpower a grown man, but yes I agree.
Valerie - at least you’d go down fighting. And a man does not expect a woman to glue herself to him so she can throttle his trachea.
An anatomy teacher told us that if you can break someone’s clavicle, you can effectively incapacitate him.
Kicking a knee in (force the knee to move in the opposite direction that it is intended to move) can temporarily incapacitate someone.
That would force a hyperextension in the opposition direction it is designed to go, and that would be excruciatingly painful, and definitely incapacitating.
Or dislocate a shoulder…
Self defense has multiple levels. The last being physical fighting which is street fighting. It’s brutal. You must believe you are fighting for your life. These days I am not sure a court would side with a woman defending herself. I think we’re screwed one way or another. I sound like Debbie Downer
I learned a lesson early.
In high school, there was this gang of boys continually picking on me ... knocking books out my hands and so on. One day I got fed up and had it out with a guy outside of school. Word must have gotten around because the whole school seem to be out in numbers on the field of contest to witness this gladiatorial contest. I was not the favorite as I was the much smaller guy. But I fought defensively at first, wearing the other guy down. Once I saw his arms dropping, I started belting him with some good hits. And then suddenly something most astonishing and unexpected happened. The antagonist dropped his hands and said, "I have to go to soccer practice now!" That's when I said to myself after all the months of harassment, "You SOB!" And smashed him around but good. It was then that the principal came out, took us to the office and gave us each a week's suspension from school. But guess what? It was worth every bit of it! Because after that ... nobody ever bothered me again.
This should be a lesson to everyone of us who is fed up with the insane calamity going in our once upon a time country now badly in need of reclaiming. That one must FIGHT for one's self or otherwise suffer abuse.
I could agree more. There is a price for freedom. Good job
Thank you.
I love your story. Love. It.
Thanks!
I think of all the soldiers sitting in Leavenworth right now bc they defended themselves against guys def wanting to kill them. Sad state of affairs. Best advice is to try and not put yourself in harms way.
My ex was 6'2" and a big guy. I took a self defense class (not because of him) in which I learned if someone had me from behind in a choke hold, all I had to do was bend over and that would likely be enough to get him off balance and possibly on the ground. So, I came home and told my ex I learned how to put an attacker on the ground. He said I couldn't. I said put me in a choke hold. He did, and I got him just enough off balance to have him stumbling. Had I continued, I could have gotten him to the ground. We were still a couple then so obviously I didn't want to harm him. Never had a chance to use it in real life, thankfully.... knock on wood.
Good job. The element of surprise is a huge advantage. That’s why I encourage people not to practice with people they know. I am glad you haven’t had to use it. But it empowering to know
You mean, you can’t have children either??
?
You don’t need to overpower…one good kick right where they live, so to speak
When I was a little girl my father taught me if someone wants to hurt me then that is no time to fight fair. He taught me how to slam a knee into guy's family jewels, slam a palm or fist into their nose to try to drive the nose bone into the attacker's brain, and if needed poke their eyes out with my fingers. Point: take them down fast so I'd have time to run away. He also drilled me never to let any strangers close enough to grab me. "Don't talk to strangers!" Decades later, I learned our part of the county in those years had many snatch, murder and rape cases of young women and children.
Remember the school bus children buried after being highjacked in Chowchilla, California by rich kids for ransom? Once driving near one of their family homes about the same year as that kidnapping, my Mom and I got broadsided repeatedly by a junker station wagon, nearly pushed off a twisty mountain road by them or their pals. She raced her car after them and scared them off as they tried to do the same for thrills to another car. Lesson: don't just fight for yourself, fight for others, too, never be a scared bystander. Local police and sheriffs could no nothing, they said, because the bashing car had no license plates. Unreal.
A video called “how to say no to rapist” was shown at my school. It was awesome. Wish I could find it again. It stayed with me... so when I had a daughter, I taught her everything I learned in it. Taking martial arts re-enforced those lessons.
A.J. Yes, I remember Chowchilla. I grew up in the Central Valley. But I do not remember there being twisty mountain roads there...it's the valley, right? Flat. And that bus..they buried the whole thing! Can you imagine that now? They would not make the effort now!
They hijacked the bus in the flats near Chowchilla in the Central Valley then drove it to a quarry owned by one of the kidnappers' fathers near Livermore Valley where they buried a van with the children taken from the schoolbus. The kidnappers lived in Portola Valley and Woodside area in the coastal foothills. All are now out on parole. The ringleader, Woods, bribed witnesses to get parole in 2022.
Where some yahoos boys repeatedly broadsided my mother's car, with me in it, was on a twisty mountain road only about 3 blocks away from where the lead kidnapper's family lived in Portola Valley. After the kidnapping publicity died down his family gave their old family house and extensive surrounding land, the "Hawthorns," to an open space organization which has yet to open it to the public.
I used to teach those class.
Nice, although if you did that up here in Canada, they would charge you for assault - welcome to clown world.
You really need to leave that place…all together!!
Exactly!!!
I carry a fanny pack whenever and wherever I can. I LOVE your idea!!!!
I hike alone quite a bit and I never go without my Zap hiking stick, (has a hidden taser on it). I got it for extra protection out on the trail. You can get it on Amazon. Last year, on a trail ride in AZ, our group encountered illegals. You never know. I don’t want to be that “one”.
Great idea, I’ve never heard of one. I also hike by myself and sometimes I get a creepy feeling that someone is watching me. Then of course my imagination runs wild. The pepper gel in my pocket isn’t super handy, but a walking stick taser would be. I assume it would work on a cougar?
I’ve never had to use it, thankfully, but demonstrating it to friends has made their dogs scared with the zapping electricity.
Yes, thankfully. So you can use it more than once and practice with it! Cool!
Don’t fuk with cougars (aka Mountain Lions). Avoid if at all possible. Noise and numbers mitigate.
And make yourself big!
Thank you, so much, for the info.
I’m going to buy one!
I’m sure, as I’ve been told, those illegals were only “Dreamers.” So they certainly posed no threat. Not like those “Dreamers” at UGA.
My daughter has a very loud whistle thing. VERY LOUD, She's Birdie it is called.
Me too and I only walk back where the owls hoot and I get bothered by curlews and redwings.
This site has several self defense options. My daughters carry some of these items everywhere they go.
https://www.sportsmansguide.com/productlist?k=self%20defense
Valerie … I have a dummy cell phone taser. It’s a “thing”.
I agree!!
My niece jogs in Joshua Tree California and she has a key ring weapon and bear spray, due to meth heads. Another tactic I learned a long time ago is to act crazy if you can't escape. Babble, wet your pants, fall down and eat grass or gravel, roll around. Attackers depend on your fear and your reactions (just like Democrats and Big Pharma lol), but if they can't predict you they might just rob you and leave. It is a bit off putting to all but the most perverse if one has wet one's pants.
In the 90’s on the way home late at night, I was going to the last stop on the R train to Bay Ridge.
I got scared of a guy casing me out. I started mumbling and pacing and scratching my head, on the platform. It worked.& that was in such a different time! Before cell phones & the pay phones were Always broken down in the subway.
Good performance art! Nice touch that lice scratching.
Lived in Bensonhurst in the 80's. Rode the "B" train. :)
That’s were the Christmas lights were!
where
I remember discussing this with a friend and her older brother when we were young! Act crazy 😆 I hope I remember if ever needed!
Also https://shop.hero.us.com for non-lethal self-defense. Pepper ball and gel options.
Use code JESSE for discount. Ads on The Jesse Kelly radio program. I purchased both HERO non-lethals. Happy with decision.
I’m currently drooling over the Byrna less-lethal pistol. They make a model that is “legal” in California. I’m balking at the price, but I’ll likely suck it up and get the damn thing.
I'm interested in the Byrna too. I have never in my life used a gun so I'm wondering how you get proficient with the Byrna and how it all works.
Of course, illegal in MI. Can carry a concealed gun, but not pepper gel.
Per a retired Bay City PD officer and confirmed by the legislation, yes, most people can carry and use pepper gel in MI. http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(i5r2w02yvqr40530upnn0adn))/mileg.aspx?page=GetObject&objectname=mcl-750-224d
Thanks!
Michigan sucks! Better to be attacked and suffer the consequences? Or I guess Gretchen WHitler would rather people carry and shoot rather than spray? Makes zero sense.
Michigan does suck so massively! Now Governor Witless is advocating people giving illegal immigrants the spare rooms in your house, whom she naturally insists are just asylum seekers and refugees. My feverishly imagined conspiracy theory about this, since the globalists could care how many people they sacrifice, is that Dearborn and Dearborn Heights Muslim extremists will take in Hamas and Hezbollah and other extremists, who will then attack a city in Michigan in a terrorist attack, which she will, having been coached on the script, improve her presidential or national political bona fides with how she handles it. The actual asylum seekers, who are not gang members or human traffickers and pornographers, will be funneled into pride CRT DEI schools and be forced into the childhood vaccine schedule. But I'm stuck like Ground Hog day in imagining worst case scenarios lol.
She’s totally insane. I told my husband that I certainly hope her vacation home in Elk Rapids has been filled with illegals - she has plenty of room to help out. Me, not so much - only one home and it’s full of kids and animals and guns and ammo.
SHE is the one needing an asylum.
Has the governor with this great idea offered up any of her assorted spare rooms? She's likely to have multiple spare rooms in her multiple houses. Fill 'em up!!
In case anyone prefers "plain English" about the laws: https://www.pepper-spray-store.com/pages/michigan-laws
If engaging with a pistol is legal, I'd want one in MY hand that is not in he category of "less lethal". Bringing ANY firearm into a situation is a game changer, but in the eyes of the law they are all still a firearm, and size means nothing.
IF the situation justifies the introduction of lethal force, engage with LETHAL force and don't play in the sandbox. Under the law you can only bring a firearm into a situation when your life, or someone else's life, is under imminent and grave danger of death or permanent bodily injury. If it ever comes down to some jerk(s) wanting my car keys, wallet, etc, and he is using HIS size/threat of bodily harm, and it looks like "him or me" it will be HIM getting the holes punched. And I will always have the means to do that upin my person. And hope I never have to make that decision.. for fifteen or twenty years now, this has been the case. Never had ti introduce anyone else to "my little friend" and I pray that winning streak cintinues.
Who is going to testify in Court that you life was not in grave danger? It's your word vs. the perpetrator, only he/she won't have a voice will he/she? '-)
I couldn’t find any reference to a gel product, only sprays on this site.
Wow what a great idea! Looks like an American mind and ingenuity behind this .
We have a byrna air gun and like it. The only downside is it’s too bulky to conceal easily. Oh and it’s expensive.
I bought a Byrna for my daughter.
Eric- Do you know if you can take the .5oz one on a plane in your purse? Or will tsa confiscate it?
No!
I go everywhere with my little friend, in my Flashbang holster. And usually there is a nice knife in my pocket, in case I see a turtle wrapped in a Bud Light 6 pack holder.
Save the turtles!
🙏🏼🤣
Your wife is blessed to have a husband who loves and protects her.
I've travelled the world extensively, and I have always maintained it is critical to project the image you are in control and aware of your surroundings. Not out of fear, just common sense.
There have been surveys also where criminals have been shown videos and asked who they would attack and the general consensus was "people who walk 'disorganizedly'" -- not purposefully and not aware.
Totally agree. Situational awareness. Not perfect but def the first step.
Eyes up and scanning surroundings, etc.
It helps to carry "purposefully" a stick or an umbrella - anything that looks like a weapon if one is at all slightly infirm or slow.
Excellent advice.
We’ve literally been taught not to trust our intuition because it’s “profiling” people. In fact, that intuition is very often correct, especially for those of us who are spiritually aware. I’d rather trust my intuition and be wrong then not trust it and be dead.
I was with a group of epidemiologists shortly after 9/11, and one of them virtue-signalled by saying how immoral it would be to be extra suspicious of men from certain Middle Eastern countries. The first outbreak case we all learned was salmonella in the potato salad, from the egg-containing mayonnaise, and in outbreak investigations we always look for foods with known associations with certain pathogens. So I said, "And what would be wrong with that, epidemiologically speaking?" One of the others laughed; no one else had a response. We must always keep an open mind, so as not to miss a surprise, but 'post-judice' (contra 'prejudice') is valuable, as it's just judging (thinking critically) based on experience.
I agree.
Same with health. If someone in the street or a shop looks really unhealthy - feverish for example, it’s intuitive to avoid them. (Unless of course you’re trained & it’s your job to help). Our instincts down the generations are what got us here. We often know on a gut level how to avoid danger.
Florida is The Gunshine State. Now that would be a superb bumper sticker.
That nickname came about when we were among the first, if not the first, to become a 'shall issue' state, meaning that if someone applied for a concealed carry permit it shall be issued unless there is a legal bar to issuance. Before that we were a 'may issue' state. Now we are the last Republican-led state to have true constitutional carry. Our legislature passed permitless concealed carry last year, but not open carry. More states allow open carry than permitless concealed carry; only Illinois, New York, and Florida have bans on open carry (though Florida allows it while camping, fishing, and hunting, or traveling directly to or from these activities). Even California allows open carry in rural areas. There probably are leftover bumper stickers or t-shirts or whatever from back in the day; Florida is shaped roughly like a pistol, and that was used in the graphics.
If for no other reason, that’s why we love it here!! Click- Bang!!
Always pack when I run.
You could add to the "head on a swivel": "you don't want to be a statistic" or "you don't want your 15 minutes of fame to be over your rape and murder." I bet the GA college student didn't think she'd be headline news this week for all the wrong reasons either. I bet she did that run hundreds of times without incident until she became a statistic...
Knees bent, head on a swivel.
Pepper spray is effective; makes them stand still to rub their eyes.
I wonder though, if someone who is strung out on drugs would even be deterred? Only a bullet would would stop that kind a person; and it would have to be a well placed shot too. If you just graze them or get them in a non lethal spot, they will just keep going, kinda like a zombie…..
What you ask is a good question and the answer is no, you have to keep shooting drug users. Empty your clip because they might keep coming at you. I learned that at my first conceal carry class years ago.
My husband still says as a general rule, empty your clip.
"empty your magazne" is bad advice. It could get you conficted of excessive use f force. the LEGALLY permissible standard is "shoot until the threat is neturalised". If that takes one round, you're done. If it takes ten, you're done. But if he's down and still after one round and you keep firing, it can go VERY badly for you.
Well, yes, with corrupt judges today. Maybe I should have said if you’re going to use a gun, shoot to kill. The situation I was referring to in class was an addict who kept coming at her.
no, don't ever "shoot to kill" ONLY ever shoot to "neutralise the threat"
Shoot to kill says you are trying to kill, which is illegal. Neutralise the threat only means I will not be the one to die here and now. Now if the dirtbag is persistent, won't take STOP to heart, and it takes enough holes poked in him that he dies, oh well.
Guess I better brush up on my legal rights and limitations.
Righteeoh, there. Before I decided to get one and begin taking it wherever i happen to be, I had some false notionsa bout what I could and could not DO with one of those things. I believe I firs saw one of Mas' books, Graves Extreme I blieve, at a gun show, picked it up nd started browing through. In two minutes i realised I NEED to ucate myself, BEFORE I put myself in that position. The chap at the table said "that's the best book ever written on self defense and firearms.
There was a case somewhere in the midwest some years ago.. near a larger city but not in the heart of it. Seems the coppers had a reason to come calling for the chap who resided there and for no very clearly articulated reasons dcided to do it Rambo style... swat team, bust the door down at oh dark thirty, guns in hand and NOT pointed at the floor. Homeowner had NO CLUE what was up, got blasted out of bed by the noise, grabbed his handy dandy bedside handgun came round the corner just into the livingroom and opened fire. It was dark in there, he could not see very well, all he DID see was a couple of folks shining lights into his face and screaming.... as he was firing. Several men screaming in close quarters is never intelligible. His later claim, never disproven because it could NOT be, was that HE was certain there was an unjustified invasion by armed individuals into his own home. Not one person there could provide any data to the contrary. Thus his statement had to stand. NO ONE in that room but Mr. Homeowner knew what he was thinking. He was charged with murder in the first degree as one of the officers never made it home. It was proven in forensics that the bullet that had killed him came from Homeowner's handgun. At trial the jury had to acquit. Why? Not one shred of evidence supported the concept that the guy KNEW they were cops before he opened fire. He walked away a free man, though he did spend some stretch of time in the ol CrowBar Hotel awaiting trial.
Almost every state protects the occupants of a dwelling from any charges if/when they respond to an unannounced or unwanted entrance to that dwelling by anyone who is not invited or authorised to be there by the occupants. The cops in the incident above thought they had the right to be inside that home and learned the painful way that until they had properly served the warrant they did not.
AnnieMarie, you bring up a very valid point. Having spent a career as first responder in Jeff's 'favorite' city I learned to evaluate a situation and often 'talk down' a patient so we could administer proper care. Toward the end of my career I saw more of what you mention. Drug addled people that I could not communicate with, 'crazy' people. A very dangerous situation.
In the civilian realm, distance from the threat is your best option. The more distance the better. A knife in the hands of a perp within 20 feet is as lethal as a firearm, maybe more so. I advocate carrying a firearm, as long as you are trained in its use. Simply firing at will until the bangs stop, which many professional and non professionals do, can injure or kill many bystanders. Know whats beyond your target. Anyone remember the police officer that emptied his clip on his own cruiser because an acorn bounced off the roof? Adrenalin is your friend and your enemy.
Is there one single answer for every situation? No. Be alert, avoid dangerous situations if possible, know your exits if inside. Travel in pairs. I will add pray for protection and discernment. I feel bad for families that are forced to live in lawless crowded cities, often with police that are handcuffed by political feel good policies. If they even have funding. The odds are against the law abiding and innocent today. re read todays first topic, and learn from it. I am incensed by this situation, and know those responsible for creating these policies will never face the results of their mandates. Nor find themselves without their own personal protection detail.
Sorry for the long rambling post.
I think if you at least take away a pretty crucial sense (sight) it will give you a chance to escape. But you’re correct, I’ve encountered people as a paramedic with the super strength borne of drug use and they are virtually unstoppable.
Where I used to work in Orlando I was the FSO, but the liberal HR didn't want me to give the front desk receptionist a pepper spray, despite several vagrants coming in and bothering her, especially since she knew spanish...(gee, guess where they were from.._) Anyway, I bought her a 2-pack of wasp spray for the pesky bugs.....
My husband’s receptionist (small dental practice) keeps wasp spray under her desk too! When those pesky bugs can walk in anytime…
another much safer but probably more effective spray is the mechanic's "Brake Cleaner" spray. It leaves no residue whatever, not poisonous like wasp spray, does not violate EPA or hazmat laws when "not used for intended purpose per federal law" like wasp spray/poison does. It is far cheaper, and I know from personal experience that getting that stuff in your eyes HURTS LIKE ALL GET OUT. A blast of that stuff on someone's face WILL have them on the ground for a while. It also works for yellow jackets as I've been out in the yard wrenching, had a can or that stuff handy, was being tormented by the yellowjackets/hornets, and the stuff drops them instantly. then stomp on em. Having had that stuff bounce off a surface and into MY face I know it would incapacitate any thugs as quickly as it has done me.
Been there Tio Nico and agree completely. Cleaning gutters one day and I ran out of wasp spray. Next best thing was the brake cleaner and I was amazed at the effectiveness. Just out of curiosity, chlorinated or non? And yes, I always wear glasses!
The squeaky wheel - and the thug - gets the grease?!
There has been some instances of illegal Espanyol-Flies around here..they all have the Biden stamp of approval!!!
yep....and then a swift kick to the Jerry Nadlers and they're on the ground crying for momma
“…the Jerry Nadlers”
LMAO 😄
Pretty sure HE doesn’t actually have any though
You’re right!!!😂😂😂😂
I canNOT believe a woman married him.
and don't forget Nadler's famous quote, "It's only a myth"
Time for every woman to buy a ring taser.
What's that phrase?
Better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.
If we do not exercise our 2A rights, we lose them.
Don't cede the territory to fear. It is OUR nation.
Jogging Protection: Dogs are a reasonable alternative. They like to run, are not afraid of strangers, loyal to a fault, and almost never get accused of racism or profiling. They also have fine-tuned discernment.
Yes, fine line between 'head on a swivel' and being 'accepting of differences'.
My Greek grandmother used to say (direct translation: "have 14 eyes").
I don't know why '14', but the meaning is the same as the swivel remark.
My daughter is 5’1”. We started young with martial arts...I even did it with the kids so they were excited to do it. I knew I would not be around to protect her forever. I didn’t wordy when she was at college because I knew she could protect herself and she earned her callsign Might Mouse. Tell your daughter to have confidence to protect themselves... pepper spray won’t do anything if they don’t feel confident in using it.
I still walk out in the back 40 of our conservation district here in northern Illinois. I will until I hear for sure that the 1.8 million square feet empty Motorola plant purchased by the DOD is not going to be housing illegal invaders right outside our small town. Not much news about it but a story about medical glove manufacturing. There was some job openings advertised but not now. I’ve only heard of one person who was hired to pack gloves. With such a huge enterprise there should be some kind of hoopla and such going on. Or even land speculation. But house prices haven’t moved much. Still business plots for sale, etc. WE got royally screwed by Motorola who built an analog cell phone factory while the rest of the world was going digital. Stoooooopid.