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Andrea Leshok's avatar

Late yesterday was the first day this week that we in Wisconsin could go outside because the air quality was so bad. The way it came through doesn't make sense for wildfire smoke. Something just doesn't add up.

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Santini Fan's avatar

Yeah, I’m not buying it either. I told my husband that the news reminds me of the early Covid days when we were subjected to video of people in china dropping dead in the street. I don’t trust this for a minute. Something is being done purposely.

In turn, he offered a good suggestion. Are there any real-time satellite views of these supposed wildfires? I’m guessing not...😡

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LMWC's avatar

I just said the same thing to my husband! Where are the pictures of all these wildfires? People who get all their info from the msm keep saying, “80 million acres burning.” “So far north in the Canadian wilderness they can’t get equipment up there to fight it” “First the fires were in Quebec, now magically in Ontario.” “So dry up there, it’s a tinderbox”, despite heavy rain storms going through. The dead giveaway, the air doesn’t smell like woodsmoke, smells like plastic burning. Very much like the media blanketing when CoVid was dropped.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Well, ain't that just so interesting! A wildfire band straight across the whole blooming country. And the Wash-Oregon border, New Mexico, Arizona, Texas--but surprisingly, I cannot see any along the East Coast north of the Georgia N Carolina border. Isn't that peculiar? Makes me think once again of Catherine Austin Fitts hypothesis (expressed after the Floyd 'mostly peaceful protests' which destroyed so much inner city real estate) of a real estate grab. I had wondered this a.m. if these CA fires might be related to enabling the extraction of more of Canada's huge mineral wealth, especially on the territory of "First Nations People"--maybe also (isn't my shiny hat attractive? 100% pure aluminum--no alloys involved) preparation for 15 minute cities.

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LMWC's avatar

I just viewed your link and all I saw was little 🔥 pics all over Canada supposedly showing thermal hot spots? I am tempted to say, “Big whoop”. If anything, all these little 🔥 across Canada make me more suspicious that we are being gaslit by our governments again.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Good point. You might watch "MrMBB333" channel on YT, the self-described "earth watchman". He posts many reports / stories on weather / forest fires / UAPs and the like, and seems pretty credible.

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LMWC's avatar

Nothing is credible when it does not pass the gut test. My gut told me CoVid was a set up, J6, a set up, the Ukraine most definitely a set up, and many more, “this is insane” acts we’ve been forced to swallow.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

If you’re Christian that’s God given discernment. Comes from submersion in his Word over time.

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barbara ford's avatar

Agree. Anything from a US agency is suspect.

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Fla Mom's avatar

That symbol says it means fires covering >1,000 acres.

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LMWC's avatar

I understand this but I still have not seen one actual picture of the fires burning in eastern Canada. Considering how easy it is to fool everyone with fake pictures, (remember all the pictures of stacked up bodies in Italy and NYC), one would think they would at least spread some of those around, but not even trying, which makes me more suspicious.

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Fla Mom's avatar

And I agree, we should be skeptical of everyone and everything these days.

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Jamie Leigh's avatar

well it does have reports of active fires.

Here's another that I've liked to use

https://www.fireweatheravalanche.org/fire/

But ok it's not like it is live pictures

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LMWC's avatar

Exactly!

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Mary H.'s avatar

I question EVERYTHING these days .

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Befferz's avatar

I mentioned early on on this story (Quebec at that time) that normally Twitter would be full of random people filming & sharing. I did not see a single first hand account.

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LMWC's avatar

We so think alike…

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Ellen's avatar

yes there are. Go to the NASA website.

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

smells like plastic burning up here in Ontario

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Joni's avatar

We are in northwest Ohio and it has smelled like rubber and plastic burning. I’ve had many, many people comment the same thing to me. This isn’t wildfires burning. Plus someone in another county south of us posted pictures of lots of dead fish and many in the process of dying. Something is really going on here. Others commented that they grew up in California and when there were wildfires you would smell smoke like wood burning, not plastic and rubber. The criminality in all this is mind boggling.

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Cynthia Ford's avatar

Smells like rubber and plastic here in Detroit too, but I was in Petaluma, which is the staging area for fire personnel in CA as it doesn't burn, during the CA fires and the air was really chemically and very unhealthy. In that case though it was often wildland/urban interfaces burning, so all the insulation and possessions and building materials in the homes were burning as well as wood. Does make one wonder what is really going on. It might be urban/wildland interfaces and the tentacled leviathan of the MSM is using it to nanny state us and program us for more lockdowns due to what? Pacific Cascadia blowing? Yellowstone volcano? Interdimensional aliens setting things on fire lol ? Nukes? They are up to something, that is axiomatic lol.

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Michele's avatar

Here are a couple of theories:

https://youtu.be/T3YS-hDsliQ

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Roger Beal's avatar

Here in the N E GA / western NC mountains, the haze is fairly thick, and smells distinctly like wood burning.

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Joni's avatar

Interesting that it can smell differently that far south. Not one person we’ve spoken to in our area/state has said they smell smoke. You have to wonder what is really going on and with the evil coming out of our governments these days, its anyones guess.

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Annie's avatar

NW VA: Thick haze that doesn't smell like wood fire. There's a chemical tinge to the air and many have developed headaches and dizziness in my county.

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deathcap's avatar

GA piedmont here -- it's faint, but the smell I picked up smelled like wood.

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Dave's avatar

Its really not unusual for forest fires to smell like something besides a campfire sometimes

I remember about 10 years ago experiencing a few hours of smoke from a fire in Wisconsin that smelled like burning garbage. It mellowed out to campfire smell a few hours later

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SusanMc's avatar

Moody, Alabama (near Birmingham) had a long smoldering fire supposedly at a landfill; old tires burned & caused people to be ill.

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John Cougar Misanthrope's avatar

I was back in the Detroit area a few weeks ago and it was surreal. Tiny white flakes were observable in the air (I thought I was nuts but my level-headed son confirmed it).

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Dana's avatar

Having had regular forest fire air quality issues in Wa state since 2015, white flakes in the air are a regular occurrence

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nt's avatar

Same in Cali …white flakes all over cars .

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Crazy. What do you think it is?

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John Cougar Misanthrope's avatar

No idea. Growing up in the Detroit suburbs, it wasn't unusual to have air quality issues stemming from the factories downriver. However, I don't recall seeing flakes in the air.

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Gotcha....it could be that since there is so much air pollution already, the particulates are combining. Who knows. Why I'm detoxing as much as possible with diatomaceous earth, fulvic acid, and staying hydrated more than ever.

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David A's avatar

diatomaceous earth. Can that be food grade. Certainly not to be inhaled.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Food grade bentonite clay is something to consider. Fill your glass with water, have a mini whisk at hand, put a teaspoon of clay into the water and whisk like the dickens for about 30 seconds, then drink it right down.

If you put the clay in first and pour water on top of it, you’ll get Play-Doh. Multiple external and internal uses. Stops mosquito bite itch almost instantaneously.

Goes into the intestines to detox and plug leaky gut holes.

I’m using that and MSM (organic sulfur) to cure my long, long running acid reflux and it’s working!

All apple cider vinegar (which obviously works wonders for some) did for me was make the hurting worse.

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Makes sense as our ancestors would also drink water with clay, back when the water wasn't totally polluted. I've taken bentonite and don't mind the taste. Didn't know about the mosquito bite thing though! Wow. Apparently there's also green clay from France that works very well, haven't tried that yet. Where did you get the MSM?

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Where I get everything, Amazon. But I tracked down the supplier online and got a subscription going there as well. I don’t want supply chain issues interrupting my treatment. I’m sure any good natural supplements store would have it. But I’ve lived 72 years, have bought tons of supplements and am just now learning about this one.

https://mountainwellbeing.com/product/organic-sulfur/

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Peace's avatar

Bentonite Clay, hydrated, is with me at all times. Fantastic for cuts or any skin issue. My dog accidentally got her tooth down my cuticle when playing with a ball and it started to get infected. Paste of hydrated Bentonite Clay held in place with plastic wrap pulled the infection right out. Husband cut his hand on glass and thought he might need stitches. Kept it wrapped in bentonite clay for a few days and healed beautifully with minimal scarring.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I’m a believer! I haven’t, thank God, had any wounds to deal with, but I will confidently apply when needed. I think I read someone’s report that they used it to draw out spider venom.

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IR's avatar

Does it have to be in the paste form to work for a mosquito bite?

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Yes, I have a tiny little scoop and dump a bit into my palm and add a few drops of water. Makes fabulous face mask and can be put into the bath to detox externally as well. Good for hair, good for skin, so many uses that I haven’t even explored yet.

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Peace's avatar

I keep a quart jar of hydrated clay on hand at all times. It keeps forever, so why not have it made and ready to go? :)

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Freebird's avatar

Do you drink the bentonite clay on an empty stomach, or does it matter?

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Yes. Recommended is take immediately upon rising and wait 30 minutes before taking in food or other supplements. I do that and after 30 minutes I do the Bentonite and let that work for an hour before taking other supplements. The Bentonite is only once daily. The ORGANIC sulfur (I use powder or crystals) is three times daily.

I seldom eat before noon. So about midafternoon I do the second dose. Then when I get the first thoughts about eating again, I do dose #3 and by the time I get my dinner prepared, the 30 minutes of waiting time are over.

Here’s some information I’ve used.

From Dr. Axe

Improves Digestive Problems

MSM can help rebuild the lining of the digestive tract and lower inflammatory responses in response to allergic reactions to certain foods.

It’s also useful for helping treat leaky gut syndrome since it can help stop particles from leaching out the gut through small junction openings, where they can enter the bloodstream and ignite an inflammatory response. This is due in part to the sulfur in an MSM supplement, which is important for digestion.

Additionally, MSM supplements seem to help treat hemorrhoids, according to studies. Applying a gel containing MSM along with tea tree oil can reduce pain and swelling caused by hemorrhoids (swollen blood vessels of the rectum that make it hard to go to the bathroom without pain or bleeding).

Bentonite Clay

Gut Detox 1 tsp. of clay 2-4 oz. of water.

Directions Take internally for a full gut detox. Mix 1 tsp. of clay with 2-4 oz. of water. Shake well. Drink mixture once daily. 

*For best results use for 8 weeks as a daily detox regime

Sorry, if it’s a little graphic 🫤

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Willing Spirit's avatar

And it has pretty much eliminated all my joint pain and I’ve had rheumatoid arthritis for many years! It really has worked so well for me.

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Freebird's avatar

Thanks! I've had leaky gut for years and stick to a pretty strict diet, but I've never tried this so I'll definitely give it a try. I'd also read about using L-glutamine to heal the gut and I'm currently trying that. I've heard of bentonite clay for years and actually have some but never gave it a good try. Do you mind saying what brand of MSM supplement you use? It caused stomach upset in the past so I gave up on it. Although MSM alone is highly recommended for joint pain. Thanks again for all the info. And Dr. Axe is good.

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

I drink it first thing or last thing at night. You want to take it away from food so that it can work on your gut.

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Freebird's avatar

Thanks! Do you prefer DE or bentonite clay? and what's the difference?

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Yes. Empty stomach. So for an hour and a half in the morning, I give the ORGANIC sulfur 30 minutes to process, then the Bentonite clay gets an hour before ingesting anything else.

I should say, the sulfur is bitter, but after a few weeks, I hardly even notice it. In the beginning I would have a glass of plain water to drink right after the sulfur. Now I still drink the water, but not in a panic.

And you should drink plenty of water with these products, but I’ve always drank plenty of water and haven’t had to change my habits.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Really doesn’t taste like anything but murky water.

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Yes for certain. I take food grade, 1 tsp per day. Here's a decent site with sources: https://www.theprairiehomestead.com/2014/01/diatomaceous-earth-homestead.html

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

Ever seen a forest fire up close??? They produce WHITE FLAKES of ash...

I'm not saying ALL flakes are ash... But in the case of forest fires, they can produce white ash flakes. (Grew up in Florida where there are control burns regularly).

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Ellen's avatar

Could there have been a local fire in addition to the wildfires??

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Mary H.'s avatar

I have noticed a smoky haze the last few days here in Savannah GA ?

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JW's avatar

The bad air is pretty bad right now here in N. GA.

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Mary H.'s avatar

There is nothing “normal” about this . Makes me wonder where that missing 60,000 lb shipment of ammonium nitrate went?

Taken from post on Twitter : “What does ammonium nitrate do to the atmosphere?

As ammonium nitrate explodes, it produces massive amounts of pollutant gases, including nitrogen dioxide, nitrous oxide and ammonia. Nitrogen dioxide, for example, is extremely toxic, while nitrous oxide is a potent greenhouse gas, having about 300 times the global warming potential of carbon dioxide.”

Scary isn’t it ?

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JW's avatar

Sounds like a plausible theory and yes, scary. I was in CA during the bad fires where it looked like you were on Mars all day, dark and red. I had never experienced anything like that before and this is very, very odd for Georgia. Even after all of these recent storms and lots of wind here it is remaining very smokey. It also seems odd that the smoke is being blown South.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Thanks Roman--have daughter and family of four ( doubled in just one day by twins delivered two weeks ago today!) up there in Ont's BIG city. But she's so busy with these new lives that we've heard from her only twice in these two weeks.

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Wow! Congratulations Via!!!!

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Would you be at all surprised to learn that she and husband did NOT take the "vax"?

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Good job! Way to keep the family together 😊

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Many thanks!

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Patrish's avatar

Hazy/smoggy in Lancaster PA. Doesn’t smell like wood burning. My friend insists it smells like plastic.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Honestly - I live in Lancaster area - I didn't smell anything unusual - it is hazy - but not "smoky/hazy"--just cloudy (I live about 18 miles WEST of Lancaster proper.

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Deanna Kozarov's avatar

Same in Chicago. I chatted with a Canadian actually who used to work in forestry who told me the west has been battling these wildfires for years and it’s only now since it’s affecting the Midwest/east that we care. They won’t do anything about them. I was shocked she even didn’t think that maybe something else is going on because she’s always f-the government and spoke openly against the vaccines. She did mention her account got suspended and didn’t know why so she had to ask Facebook to reinstate it, so maybe she’s now paranoid to tell the truth on there.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Yep, we on the west coast have been dealing with this for years. The really bad one in Oregon three years ago did smell acrid, but houses did burn.

Maybe now somebody will listen. Pacific Power and Light finally, recently, took blame for the fire 3 years ago. PGE was charged in the Camp fire near Chico Ca.

There are many rumors that the Camp fire was deliberately started by operatives. I saw a lot of footage about that, but of course it’s something we can’t talk about, you know, conspiracy theory or hate speech. 😡

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PamelaZelie's avatar

If you can’t tell the truth on Facebook, why would you ever have an account???

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LMWC's avatar

Bingo!

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

I agree. The level we’re seeing here in West MI is unbelievable. It’s like there’s a house on fire in the neighborhood that is just allowed to burn. We had a wild storm last night and I thought it would blow the smoke away. Nope. It was just as bad, if not worse this morning. It’s curious.

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LMWC's avatar

Mid Michigan, east side and YES!

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Based Florida Man's avatar

This beekeeper fellow investigated the plastic smell and found:

"The forest fire smoke goes up into the atmosphere, and UV light from the sun is causing a chemical process to turn it into formaldehyde and benzyne. Benzyne causes cancer at 4 parts per billion."

https://twitter.com/dc_flake/status/1674542373618044929 70 sec video

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LMWC's avatar

I appreciate your research, but not buying it. The upper Midwest has been dealing with these Canadian wildfires for over 6 weeks now. Winds early on from the north and NE were bringing it down, fires in Quebec. Winds and rains now out of the south and west and still smoke. Somehow the smoke is filtering down and getting caught in the jet stream. Not buying any of it.

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Jeff C's avatar

Have to agree as I've lived with brush fires (in the chaparral) and forest fires (in the local mountains) for my entire life in Southern California, there's at least one or two big ones every year. They have never smelled like anything other than a campfire.

So they need to explain why this is different. Perhaps it's needs to get higher in the atmosphere for this reaction to occur hence the long distance travel to southern parts of the US. But people in Ontario and Michigan are saying the same thing and they aren't that far away.

The days of some egghead handwaving away something completely new and unusual as innocuous are long gone. They lost that trust and will never get it back.

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RandiG's avatar

Laurie,

I’m with you!

My husband said “it’s the jet stream” and I said it makes no sense. I think people WANT to believe these silly ‘explanations’ because WHY would our governments want to kill us, the wildlife, etc.

But, we can always count on government to over play their hand.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

I'm seeing people dispute the wind patterns. Like in TX they're seeing this, and there's no way it's the jet stream doing that.

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A Rose's avatar

I did a quick DuckDuckGo search. Raw (recent results) search seems to back that theory up. Changed the dates to only include results from the years 1995-2000. The only links showing up with regards to smoke turning into formaldehyde are questions about cigarettes and vapes. So, I don't buy this at all.

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A Rose's avatar

By raw search, I mean recent results.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Good sleuthing.

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Gigi Gummerson's avatar

I could make a map like that as well. Where’s the video? We saw a guy jump from space but they can’t show satellite imagery?

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Roger Beal's avatar

BOOM. Please pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Looks like we should all move to NEWFOUNDLAND or the DAKOTAS--HAH!!

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Michele's avatar

No. Just, no.

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

Too bad we can’t just use wind turbines to blow this all back to Canada.

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RandiG's avatar

Andrea,

I’m thinking these ‘wildfires’ are the ‘new’ chemtrails.

I agree, it makes no sense. I live in northern CA and they showed the fires burning. They really think we’ll believe ANYTHING. 😡

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Katrina the Hurricane's avatar

Yeah the air quality numbers are bad with a haze in the air in the TN valley today too. But we are also under a heat advisory. So many people on the news are hyperventilating about the heat--like it’s abnormal for this time of the year. Cmon, people! It’s summertime in the South! Nothing abnormal about temps in the 100s at all. Heck, I think it was an abnormally mild April and May--for which I am extremely grateful--cuz usually the heat starts in one of those months.

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deathcap's avatar

There have only been 10 days where the high has passed 100 in Knoxville since 1990. Note that most of these are associated with heatwaves in 2012 and 2007.

2012-07-01, 2012-06-30, 2012-06-29, 2007-08-23, 2012-06-28, 2007-08-16, 2007-08-24, 1995-08-16, 1993-07-28, 1993-07-08.

Investigate the data yourself. https://xmacis.rcc-acis.org/

It's not unheard of, nor is it accurate to say there is no historical precedent for these -- the 1950s and 1930s had a few 100 degree days, with the 1930s literally being famous for being a stupidly hot and dry decade (dust bowl, anyone?)

But it's inaccurate to say that 100 degree days are "nothing abnormal". It's definitely unusual.

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Katrina the Hurricane's avatar

I respect your data dive. In retrospect, my comment is derived from my past which was mostly lived in Texas. Much hotter summers there than the TN valley where I live now.

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deathcap's avatar

Yeah I lived in Corpus Christi for three years. 100 degree days there? Irritating but not that weird. Heck during that 2012 heatwave that pushed the thermometer to 100 in Knoxville (I grew up in Knoxville), Corpus had 26 days in a row with temps over 100. Thank god for the sea breeze otherwise it would have been completely awful.

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Katrina the Hurricane's avatar

Yeah, I grew up in Houston. What a hot, humid mess it was. We didn’t have the luxury of a sea breeze. When I married a career Army aviator and we would change duty stations, I would always ask someone from that duty station about the weather there. If they said it was humid, I would always ask, “Houston humid?” If they just stared at me, I knew they had never experienced Houston humidity. You’ll never sit in a steam sauna (or understand why others do) if you’ve spent any time in Houston. Also spent 4 years stationed at Fort Hood in the late 90s. I just looked up the historical summer data for nearby Waco for July 1998, and it was 100+ for 28 days that year. Whew! Just roasting! Don’t miss it!

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Willing Spirit's avatar

This is why Texas and Florida pioneers were the toughest of the tough. No AC, earliest days no real windows or screens to keep the bugs out. Rattle snakes, water moccasins, gators (in Florida anyway), panthers, wild cats, bears…those were some strong people. And I’m proud to be a descendant from both places.

My paternal grandpa (I never saw him-he would have been 90 something by the time I was born) was the product of a short lived marriage.

Story was a widower from Texas decided to relocate to the Florida Panhandle with several children. He met and met a widow with several children, my great grandmother. It didn’t work out because of apparently serious disputes between the children and the Texans went back to Texas. After that my grandpa was born. 1850s, I think. He never laid eyes on his pa and had to support himself and his widowed mother from an early age, as the siblings all drifted off. A very early age, working at a grist mill, grinding corn into meal and was largely paid in cornmeal. His mother tied rags onto his feet in the winter because he had no shoes. He never went to school and was illiterate.

At some point he received a letter with instructions from Texas saying the father had died and he was in the will. He didn’t go. It was too far to travel. Horse and buggy, stagecoach days.

He had landed a really good job supervising a turpentine still, destroying the virgin pines that covered north Florida, stretching from Pensacola in the west to Jacksonville in the east.

Nothing good had come thus far fro Texas and he saw no need to go. Who knows what would’ve been there?

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Willing Spirit's avatar

And married a widow. My grandpa was legitimate and carried his father’s name.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

And we think we have it hard.

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Katrina the Hurricane's avatar

Very interesting family history! My mom’s family came from west Texas. Her dad owned a horse and cattle ranch. They were all tough as nails. My dad came from a large family (he was one of 10 kids) of sharecroppers. He was 1/8 Cherokee. Mom and dad were raised to be resilient and taught us kids to be so as well. But I never learned to fry chicken or can vegetables--some skills I may wish I had learned if the apocalypse materializes soon. Haha!

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Willing Spirit's avatar

We have grit!

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Celayne Jones's avatar

I am in western Wisconsin where they air smells like burnt plastic.

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Michele's avatar

Some good speculation on Really Graceful, here:

https://youtu.be/T3YS-hDsliQ

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