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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

What many arrogant woke westerners fail to consider is that even though they may not have the nuclear arsenal of the US yet, Russia has a lot of tactical, ground-level weaponry that is far superior to the US. You're becoming quite the weapons expert Jeff!

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

The problem with Russias is their reliability is questionable.

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Heather Candy's avatar

As is that of Ukraine, UK, US, Canada (my country), EU, Australia....ie. the West - along with the rest of the world, of course.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

The west doesn’t have a habit of committing widespread genocide.

Around 100 million people were Murdered by democide Last century. Most of those were under the hammer and sickle flags.

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Peter GL's avatar

if you count all the unborn children that could have been born but for abortion, isn't that another form of genocide? Weren't the Nazi and Kemalist genocides western and NOT under the hammer and sickle flags?

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Heather Candy's avatar

I do understand that totalitarianism (in various forms) is responsible for millions of deaths, and despise totalitarian political systems. But the West has engaged in many so-called "good wars" that have killed many innocents, destroyed nations, and created dependency. ("do things our way, elect our approved people, accept our rules, our medical experiments, etc, or else" - has a hint of totalitarianism (or maybe you could call it bullying?) about it, no?

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daverkb's avatar

The collective West is now under a Marxist totalitarian rule. It is totally evil. And it's an evil we all too politely call Woke, but at least we have a general idea as to what that means.

As for the Death Count, I have to wonder. If all deaths were counted (abortion, deaths through decades of intentional health degradation, covid deaths in hospitals, jab deaths, manufactured war deaths, etc.) it is possible that US Woke led empire has already eclipsed previous totalitarian regimes.

It is very difficult for people to accept horrors of totalitarianism. The bullying of domestic populations and that of countries is merely the expression of the will to totalitarian conquest. Even 'covid' is conquest on multiple levels.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Succinct and to the point.

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Bgagnon's avatar

"Good wars" or proxy wars and false flag ops.

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Politico Phil's avatar

A hint? The Founders set up a self-governing constitutional republic which was replaced with an imperial republic in 1860 when the proto-Nazi Abraham Lincoln waged unlimited warfare upon half of America resulting in the deaths (conservatively estimated) of 700,000 Americans when the population of America was a tenth of the size it is today. (Understand "unlimited" means all civilians are targets, not just combatants.) Ever since that war, the imperial USG has been engaged in expanding a foreign empire through the use of UNLIMITED warfare upon foreign peoples. This is the practice of democide, plain and simple. It is extremely disingenuous of the USG to constantly use the atrocities committed by foreign regimes as a means to characterize our foreign wars as righteous and justified. Matt 7:5 "Hippocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck out of your brother's eye."

For a reality check, consider that in the Vietnam War, 2 million civilian Vietnamese, 1.3 million Vietnamese soldiers and 58 thousand Americans were killed. That's just one war.

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daverkb's avatar

Yes, and now the totalitarian super-agency wages unlimited time horizon warfare on its own people ... and in part sustaining their efforts on the backs of their enslaved populations. It's gotten so unacceptably pathetic.

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Politico Phil's avatar

"Unlimited time horizon warfare"....wow, that just brought it into focus and names the unseen terror that I could not put my finger on.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

That is absolutely true: Communists are the most-effective murderers in history.

That said, I believe you're overlooking our abilities to kill as well. How many Vietnamese did we kill? It was definitely in the millions. Same with Korea and WW2. NOTE: I AM NOT SAYING THERE IS A MORAL EQUIVALENCE.

But we killed - what? - 3.5 million Iraqis? What was the justification for that?

Just because we not as prolific as the Commes, we shouldn't get a free pass for the millions we killed.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

The US didn't kill millions of Iraqis. Nobody has ever been able to prove that. And no, sanctions banning weapons didn't lead to millions of Iraqis dying. It's a code pink myth that's been recirculated so many times it's passed off as fact.

Korea? Look at how South Korea is today vs North Korea.

South Korea is a beacon of liberty while North Korea is known as the "hermit kingdom".

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Politico Phil's avatar

So, is SK a success because of an American war or is NK a hell-hole because of American hostility. Likewise, why has Cuba been a hell-hole all these decades? Maybe the way the USG has always blacklisted Cuba all this time? It's the chicken and the egg question. Of course, none of that would have happened if we hadn't been involved as an imperial power to begin with and instead minded our own business.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

North korea is a hell hole because of it's own policies. It's a communist country.

Feel free to visit.

Cuba is the same way.

Of course, best be on your best manners and praise kim and cuba otherwise you'll get thrown in with Otto Warmbier.

104% of people in North Korea agree that Kim is the best leader and everyone else is evil.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Well "Duh!"

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JuQu's avatar

Who are you kidding? Besides yourself?

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daverkb's avatar

I not longer respond to certain Troll-like nonsense. To do so it like talking to a wall, an exercise in utter futility.

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JuQu's avatar

Sorry. I was responding to Benji.

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daverkb's avatar

I know ... that name you mention is my reference point for "like talking to a wall' and 'and 'an exercise in utter futility'. Certain people (not you) are there only to disrupt with nonsense arguments which we are supposed to pretend to take serious. And if they were never responded to the silence would be deafening.

Sorry ... guess I was not clear.

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JuQu's avatar

Thanks. I agree with you, but sometimes I can’t resist.

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daverkb's avatar

Well then, it's the same here. Hard to resist. And the Troll Brigade was over the top Troll Fool in this instance. Ridicule probably is the best weapon in the arsenal.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Russia is busy genociding Ukraine today.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Did you kneel and kiss General Milley's ring?

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Did you kiss Putin?

Russia is committing genocide. They're also losing the war.

Supporting Ukraine does not equate with supporting Miley (Who I do not).

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Politico Phil's avatar

He is your supreme commander next to the Pedo King.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Reminder: 449 days into the 3 day war.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

He's not. He's the chairman of the joint chief. There is no current "Supreme commander", nor is there a title. The only time there is a "Supreme commander" or anything close to that is during war time to which we are not in a war.

The "pedo king" is your president, too.

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Politico Phil's avatar

You misspelled it. It's "supreme" with a lower case s. Bet you still don't get it.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Communism did one thing better than the west-slaughter, disease, famine, and suffering.

The Chinese experiment is an absolute red flag on the idea of giving government complete control.

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Politico Phil's avatar

And what do you think is going on in the US today while you keep the public distracted with a proxy war in Europe?

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Thankfully we have folks like you to remind us how George Soros made taquitos unavailable at the QukTrip

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Politico Phil's avatar

Apparently you need a lot of reminding.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Remind me again.

I am capable of multitasking. I can support aid to Ukraine and Nato's response to Russian imperialism while blasting and fighting Biden's agenda here at home.

I know it's hard for you to understand, but circles don't always run together.

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daverkb's avatar

I question this. Or maybe it's more a question as to reliable for what. For example, I totally rely upon the Western NATO/US complex to murder, main, destroy, lie, censor, lock-down, coerce and to abuse us in every conceivable way. And the Russians are up to a point far more reliable on telling us the truth. And even on telling us how insidiously depraved and demonic the West has become. More truth these days comes out of Russia than almost any other place. India also has a much more reliable media complex than does the West, save alternative Internet media sites. And by the way, nothing is perfect.

In the US, I am living in an inverted universe. Good is bad, and bad is good. Truth is lies, and lies are truth. Boys are girls, and girls are boys. It's so mad that one must flee and refuse to dwell in the demented world of depravity.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

One side is committing genocide.

Meanwhile, you live in the west.

The Russians are far less truthful. If you truly believe that then get the Sputnik shot. They say it has no recorded side affects and is safe and effective.

Yuri Bezmenov would be embarrassed.

Remember, Russia claimed victory over Ukraine on February 26th. They're still fighting.

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

I agree with you - it's crazy, and I think humans may go extinct much faster due to the tech and cognitive devolution that follows.

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