But they call us guys too. If we’re out to dinner and the waiter calls us guys my husband belligerently says ‘she’s not a guy’ or asks ‘does she look like a guy?’ The kid cringes in befuddlement, and I cringe but not so much anymore. I almost said it the other night when out with a girlfriend. That’s progress!
The plural noun "guys" is well established as a gender-neutral term. I wouldn't necessarily have the nerve to say it to his face, but I think your husband should lighten up about that.
I'm in my late 30s and (maybe this is a PNW thing) have definitely called any group of people that I'm a part of "guys," regardless of their gender makeup since my teens. Heck, I called my group of girlfriends or sisters "guys!" It's definitely not a modern thing.
Yea, I get that but just because it’s become part of our lexicon doesn’t mean it’s always appropriate. Picture the 20 something calling the 60+ ladies out to lunch ‘guys’. I think it’s kinda disrespectful. Ironic that those kids also criticize us for not using the correct pronouns.
The other day I walked up to two people, one a trans pretending to be a women, and the other a straight man. I started my sentence with “hey guys”. The trans wasn’t offended. It’s just a conversational greeting, not literal. Your husband got a cringe because he humiliated the kid, training him that he can’t speak like a normal person in public.
No need to make a personal attack. That’s the cheap shot. Of course you can make assumptions.. never implied you couldn’t. You are making a judgement on her that’s is unsupported. That’s all. Free speech rocks! So do you…
But they call us guys too. If we’re out to dinner and the waiter calls us guys my husband belligerently says ‘she’s not a guy’ or asks ‘does she look like a guy?’ The kid cringes in befuddlement, and I cringe but not so much anymore. I almost said it the other night when out with a girlfriend. That’s progress!
The plural noun "guys" is well established as a gender-neutral term. I wouldn't necessarily have the nerve to say it to his face, but I think your husband should lighten up about that.
I'm in my late 30s and (maybe this is a PNW thing) have definitely called any group of people that I'm a part of "guys," regardless of their gender makeup since my teens. Heck, I called my group of girlfriends or sisters "guys!" It's definitely not a modern thing.
Lighten up Francis....
Yea, I get that but just because it’s become part of our lexicon doesn’t mean it’s always appropriate. Picture the 20 something calling the 60+ ladies out to lunch ‘guys’. I think it’s kinda disrespectful. Ironic that those kids also criticize us for not using the correct pronouns.
Not kinda, but definitely disrespectful
Only in course, crude society do you refer to women as “guy” if you take your logic to its end, we will be calling mixed groups “dick heads”
If you’re looking for something to be upset about, chances are good that you’ll find it.
If you’re looking for some reason to accept disrespectful language and actions, you’ll usually find it.
I bet you are fun at parties too.
I’m usually not invited. Wonder why? Lol! Oh, well
True
The other day I walked up to two people, one a trans pretending to be a women, and the other a straight man. I started my sentence with “hey guys”. The trans wasn’t offended. It’s just a conversational greeting, not literal. Your husband got a cringe because he humiliated the kid, training him that he can’t speak like a normal person in public.
Maybe he was secretly offended. So much so, he will be asking you out on a date.
No need to make a personal attack. That’s the cheap shot. Of course you can make assumptions.. never implied you couldn’t. You are making a judgement on her that’s is unsupported. That’s all. Free speech rocks! So do you…
Huh? Was this meant for someone else?
Sorry. Lol Got lost…. Senior moment. My apologies
😆 been there, like every other day or two!
That’s not progress. It’s just yankee rudeness.