There is a big difference b/w gov't regulation/involvement and straight-up authoritarian banning (esp. if the banning helps your financial or political allies). I think there were options other than basically banning competition, if safety was a genuine concern. Like state testing requirements; composition testing via an approved 3rd par…
There is a big difference b/w gov't regulation/involvement and straight-up authoritarian banning (esp. if the banning helps your financial or political allies). I think there were options other than basically banning competition, if safety was a genuine concern. Like state testing requirements; composition testing via an approved 3rd party; state warning label requirements as with cigars/cigarettes in some places and pretty much every electronic sold in CA; a luxury tax. I like the labeling/naming ideas.
I also think there's a pretty big moral/ethical difference b/w human meat and lab grown meat. And let's face it, our side is now getting dangerously close to assuming everything we don't know or like is somehow a "woke" or WEF-connected thing. That is not going to be good for the future. We need more innovation and more industry, not less.
Anything that Bill Gates is involved in is not for the good of people. I would expect that human meat would actually be better for than anything the has his hand in. On another note, you can still order it online and have it shipped to you… so are not without means to get it for yourself.
I’m just not sure how well those other options really work, if there is an issue with these products. Maybe ban them until they can prove long term safety. We really have no idea if these “foods” will have any long term negative effects or not at this point. I get that they’re not quite an equivalent of eating human meat but they’re also not your average run of the mill food products. It’s not like they’re banning chicken or tofu to favor beef producers.
And I’m all for innovation but Frankenfoods are not the kind of innovation I think we need most and they likely have more potential to cause harm than others. I would like to see more innovations in agriculture than see engineered artificial food.
I guess at the end of the day, it's an issue of principle for me. I can't get behind authoritarian policies when it comes to products that just haven't proven to be harmful. I also note, they haven't banned the C19 shots, which are proven harmful. Why not take the same stance here and simply advise against the product if they feel it might be dangerous?
Again, I am not a fan of these products, but IMO authoritarianism always leads to unintended problems and runs counter to my overall stance of small, limited gov't (even though I am also guilty of cheering on some authoritarian things at times...).
Thanks for the conversation. I appreciate that you challenge some things and make me think them through.
I completely get that, and tend to want to hold to principles in general too. However, I can also see that there are times when it might be better not to hold fast to a principle for the sake of it. There is probably not going to be a case where you can hold to a principle 100% so there are likely to be points where you are going to decide to draw the line. You’re not comfortable with this particular line and I respect that. I guess we all have different parameters and limits for these kinds of things.
There is a big difference b/w gov't regulation/involvement and straight-up authoritarian banning (esp. if the banning helps your financial or political allies). I think there were options other than basically banning competition, if safety was a genuine concern. Like state testing requirements; composition testing via an approved 3rd party; state warning label requirements as with cigars/cigarettes in some places and pretty much every electronic sold in CA; a luxury tax. I like the labeling/naming ideas.
I also think there's a pretty big moral/ethical difference b/w human meat and lab grown meat. And let's face it, our side is now getting dangerously close to assuming everything we don't know or like is somehow a "woke" or WEF-connected thing. That is not going to be good for the future. We need more innovation and more industry, not less.
Anything that Bill Gates is involved in is not for the good of people. I would expect that human meat would actually be better for than anything the has his hand in. On another note, you can still order it online and have it shipped to you… so are not without means to get it for yourself.
Order fake meat you mean? Yeah I guess that is true.
I’m just not sure how well those other options really work, if there is an issue with these products. Maybe ban them until they can prove long term safety. We really have no idea if these “foods” will have any long term negative effects or not at this point. I get that they’re not quite an equivalent of eating human meat but they’re also not your average run of the mill food products. It’s not like they’re banning chicken or tofu to favor beef producers.
And I’m all for innovation but Frankenfoods are not the kind of innovation I think we need most and they likely have more potential to cause harm than others. I would like to see more innovations in agriculture than see engineered artificial food.
I guess at the end of the day, it's an issue of principle for me. I can't get behind authoritarian policies when it comes to products that just haven't proven to be harmful. I also note, they haven't banned the C19 shots, which are proven harmful. Why not take the same stance here and simply advise against the product if they feel it might be dangerous?
Again, I am not a fan of these products, but IMO authoritarianism always leads to unintended problems and runs counter to my overall stance of small, limited gov't (even though I am also guilty of cheering on some authoritarian things at times...).
Thanks for the conversation. I appreciate that you challenge some things and make me think them through.
I completely get that, and tend to want to hold to principles in general too. However, I can also see that there are times when it might be better not to hold fast to a principle for the sake of it. There is probably not going to be a case where you can hold to a principle 100% so there are likely to be points where you are going to decide to draw the line. You’re not comfortable with this particular line and I respect that. I guess we all have different parameters and limits for these kinds of things.