If it's possible, the Trump trial is becoming even more bizarre, and better for the President; and Governor DeSantis signs more laws hemming in the World Economic Forum's "agenda."
“At one moment I might speak concerning a nation or concerning a kingdom to uproot, to tear down, or to make it perish; but if that nation against which I have spoken turns from its evil, I will relent concerning the calamity I planned to do against it. Or at another moment I might speak concerning a nation or concerning a kingdom to build up or to plant it; but if it does evil in My sight by not listening to My voice, then I will relent concerning the good which I promised, to do good to it.” — Jeremiah 18:7-10 LSB
God bless you, Janice, for providing daily Scripture, God’s inspired and authoritative Word, the source of all Truth and the only infallible guide for the Christian faith. It’s the first thing I look for in the comments! ❤️
Interesting passage. So here God is saying if a nation does evil, God reserves the right to NOT do good to it even though He made a promise that He would.
Two things: I believe the Bible teaches that all the promises to ancient Israel were fulfilled by God. But, if you are dispensationalist and you don't believe that, and you believe that there is some future fulfillment, then it could be argued that those promises will not be honored by God because Israel broke Faith many times in the past so we should not be looking for any fulfillment of past promises in the future. Something to think about
I disagree. In God’s eyes, Israel is not just another nation. The fact that the dry bones Ezekiel prophesied about came back together in 1948 and today there is again a nation called Israel is proof of that. The apostle Paul said the promises of God to Israel are irrevocable; even if presently the Jews are enemies to Christians in regards to the gospel, they are ‘beloved’ in regards to the election of their forefathers.
Romans 11:28-29
28 As regards the gospel they are enemies of God, for your sake; but as regards election they are beloved for the sake of their forefathers. 29 For the gifts and the call of God are irrevocable.
Thank you, Willing Spirit. I don’t know if it is because of how people have been taught, or because they simply hate Israel. But the plain Word tells us that His thoughts towards Israel are for their good. That He loves them AND us with an everlasting love. We have trouble comprehending that love.
Not so. I was dispensationalist for 25+ years as that's the default view taught in America in the 20th and 21st century (it's most definitely dying now especially with the Millenial and Zoomer Christians). Almost all your favorite teachers on the radio and TV are dispensationalist so that's the only side you get when in reality this view never existed until Clarence Darby in the mid 1800's and then popularized by the Scofield reference Bible at the turn of the century (that's a very interesting story btw).
Labeling people as dispensationalist and thinking that dismisses them as serious Bible scholars is a dangerous error.
Apparently you were hurt and I’m sorry for that.
I honestly don’t understand all of what is claimed about ‘dispensationalism’. I’m not here to defend any ‘isms’. I don’t follow any man’s programs. Apparently there is a great deal of bias against it.
This must all be very confusing for nonbelievers.
I began reading through the Bible yearly with ‘The One Year Bible’ in 1985 and after continued since then. These days I’m following a daily reading podcast.
This is where my understanding has been formed.
I know that God loves Israel with an undying love. The Bible tells me so.
Good point, but not agreed to by the "christians", most of whom, as you see below, think all non-christians are condemned to hellfire...
They seem to be ok with Israel murdering over 30,000 Gazans, mostly innocent women and kids... in response to an attack by Hamas (that Israel knew well in advance was coming and did nothing to stop it)... that killed around 1,200 jews. Appalling? Sure, both sides.
Now you see why I wish these goofy hypocrites would discuss their mythologies elsewhere... ??
I can understand your frustration. Christians, if any are involved in politics, have been slow to apply their beliefs, ethics, and Biblical principles to the sordid business of politics. Churches can be sordid themselves, too, so there's that. Then you have all the bizarre eschatological theories, around which some have built their entire religion.
In college I shut all of this out and read the Bible to see if there is anything to Christianity at all, which I seriously doubted. I found out the problems lie in ourselves, not in God. Yes, people were being ridiculous, and about so many vitally important things. But that doesn't mean I would have to be that way. I could get it back on track. Such is the intemperate, idealistic optimism of the young. Of course no one can live up to their own standards, let alone the high standards set by a perfect God. We all fail in different ways, but we do fail. But God can work with that. His plan is perfect, and it requires no striving or putting together a puzzle where most of the pieces are missing. God freely gives new life, mercy, and forgiveness to all who accept it as a gift made available through the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.
Some people don't like the fact that there's only one way to God, but seriously no one needs more than that. If a cafeteria-style assortment of religions and gods were available for us all to choose from, we then become our own gods -- and of course mess everything up again and wind up bombing each other, killing, stealing, etc.
The point I make is that there ARE a cafeteria-style assortment of religions and gods that are available for us all to choose from... not only the usual suspects, judaism, christianity, islam (each of which has several to MANY significant variations within, different sects, etc), buddhism, hinduism... native American tribal mythology, shintoism... on and on...
YOU seem to have the similar arrogance (sorry, it IS arrogance) to claim that it is a FACT that there is only one way to "God"... YOUR way. Do all of the rest of the many billions of humans burn in hellfire? Do you realize that the "bible" which you follow (his "plan"?), who knows which of MANY versions you use... has been revised again and again, books added and deleted and the translations of the original writings that became the "bible"... have been massively corrupted for the purpose of power and control over the "sheep"?
Read Biglino's "The Naked Bible"... he translates those original writings... and I strongly assume... that even if you deign to read it... you will deny it any credibility whatsoever... and cling with great fervor and anger... to the mythology that YOU have chosen... and steadfastly deny and condemn all others.... just like THEY do to YOURS... and as you say... "of course mess everything up again and wind up bombing each other, killing, etc..."
Indeed. Humans are often entranced by buzzwords and slaves to seemingly magic syllables. A disturbing trait. Cf. "safe and effective." Taking the word for reality.
On the contrary, dispensationalists are VERY serious Bible scholars when it comes to interpreting the Word within the framework of their dispensational assumptions. For those who have spent their whole lives in that framework of the dispensational matrix, it is a very hard thing indeed for them to swallow the red pill. Every time I present a substantive statement to the contrary, no one ever interacts with my position in any substantive manner. That tells me they do not have a Biblically based rational why my position is wrong, only that they prefer to remain in the matrix because that is simply what they want. The disingenuous weak reed of "Apparently you were hurt..." is not a valid argument.
The church became accustomed to speeches from the holy men on Sundays and a sprinkling of entertainment. It was all about education. Members stuffed their minds with knowledge gleaned from speakers, books, and footnotes. That model has failed because Christianity is trying to relegate itself to the status of a Western religion. Perhaps one day the churches will be like the originals and not lecture halls. There are exceptions, I know.
Some of the best people I know are on that side excursion. It's familiar enough that I've heard everything that could be said. It has seemed to me at times that the focus is more on Israel and Scofield's tale about the end times than on other, more useful lines of inquiry.
Exactly, some great brothers and sisters in Christ. But their vision in this particular regard is very truncated and captured by the decades long matrix of the "end times" narrative. Taking that red pill is exceedingly difficult to the mind. When I began my journey out of that matrix over 40 years ago, I ended up having to take a number red pills to complete the journey... which I suppose I'm still on. In the end, the whole end times narrative is a distraction from Biblical Christianity and divisive of the central tenets of the faith, sidelining the Church as a force in the culture and society. I suppose that is the whole point.
I believe there will be and is a slow awakening going on in the church as a result of the disintegration of our culture. As society deteriorates, people are going to realize that the end times narrative does not offer any real solution to what is happening, not even the "any day now" rapture escape. Contrary to that, Paul said of Christ's kingdom in 1 Cor 15, "25 For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy that will be destroyed is death." Having ascended to the throne, Christ is ruling and reigning now through His body on earth as we are empowered by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.
I completely agree. It seems that Scofieldism was embraced widely in WW2 as people tried to make sense of everything and fear abounded. I was shown a chart of the "end times" that looks like a schematic of an internal combustion engine. The good news is simple enough for everyone to understand. I don't think we are supposed to piece together bits and pieces of the Bible to figure out what Jesus said is unknown. Matt. 24:36. We are about to see in the church a "great awakening" like we are seeing in the entire country. Many churches won't survive it unless they are willing to let go of the cold ashes of their traditions and let God light his fire in them.
You are completely mischaracterizing Christians, who are looking at the signs of the times and are in hopeful expectation of the return of Christ.
Jesus told us what signs to look for. Scripture instructs us to always be ready.
That doesn’t mean we don’t live responsible lives and participate in the well being of our communities. To say that we don’t work to have the Church be a force in the culture and society is wrong and unfair to millions of us.
Do you even believe there’s going to be a second return of Christ, or do you think that’s already fulfilled too?
I am aligned with your comment in that dispensationalism appears by design to make chopped liver out of Scripture. That is, dispensationalism is a kind of Scriptural Woke before the term was even known or thought of. Further more, my view is that Scofield with purpose was 'an operation' designed to weaken whatever was left of traditional Christian Faith doctrine by fracturing the continuity of Scripture. In some circles, the program was and still remains this, liquidate all Christian practice by any means possible.
Also, I looked into Scofield and the New York faux-Semitic lawyer Untermeyer. Regarding this, here is another bizarre story of a man (Scofield) who comes out of nowhere, appears to have no visible means of support yet goes everywhere ... and somehow manages to get published in the prestigious Cambridge Press instantly no problems. It the kind of story I have seen before quite a few times, that of a No Where Man who suddenly like magic appears out of No Where and lands feet first in the pages of history, like certain political figures who get paid some $400,000 a year but end up owning multi-million dollar mansions on little islands and manage some how to have net worths in the millions. My! How do such things happen. How does that little trick work?
Advertising tricks do not fare well on me. For example, drawing a thread to doing well with women to a certain product be hawked never did overly impress me. Similarly, drawing Biblical threads to a certain state run by people of largely non-Semitic but instead Turkomen origins who commit large scale genocide and milk the US Treasury dry using a lobby which should by all rights be required to register as 'foreign agent', this also does not overly impress me. Nor does blind support of anything.
Well said. The modern state of Israel was funded by the Rothschilds. The NWO wants to rein from Jerusalem. The KJV is hard to read, and that's probably driven some people to the Scofield footnotes to figure out what it means.
Reality! This has been the program to side-line and destroy Christianity since the founding of this country. We are now at the end game point where push comes to shove.
Two thousand two hundred American soldiers were killed at Pearl Harbor, we went and killed 3.5 million Japanese, including 100,000 in one night. 2,800 Americans on September 11. We went and killed 400,000 people in Afghanistan and Iraq. We were not accused of genocide.
Below is my comment from April 26. Referencing WWII and subsequent wars, what I described is genocide. Furthermore, I have repeatedly stated that the plandemic was and is a military campaign of the USG DoD of democide/genocide of America and the rest of the West.......................
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SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY:
And here is the crux of the whole matter which Childers only touched on. I don't have the bandwidth to fully address this but I do recognize the problem. Sovereign immunity means there is NO ACCOUNTABILITY for the actions of our top leadership, particularly the POTUS. This means there is NO LAW that governs their behavior.
The solution to this conundrum provided by the writers of the Constitution was the Senate who represented the will of the separate individual sovereign States. This check was done away with in 1913 by the Seventeenth Amendment which provided for the direct election of Senators just like the rest of Congress. Coincidentally, this was the same year the Federal Reserve was established which removed the people's check on Federal spending power. Not a coincidence!
The last time the nation addressed the accountability of Government to a higher power or sovereign was the Declaration of Independence which clearly stated that the State is subject to the Creator of the universe and His Law. Upon this basis, the founding fathers based their right to reject the rule of a despotic government and declare their compact with that government null and void. The failing of the Constitution was not addressing this and providing no mechanism for holding the Fed Gov't accountable to God's Law.
Thus we find ourselves at the point where the "sovereign" USG can bomb into extinction entire civilian populations in WWII, which we did in both Japan and Europe and in nearly every subsequent war they got us involved in, without any repercussions. And now we find ourselves the object of a war being waged upon the American people by the Dept of Defense who are killing us through a medical intervention all enabled and justified under Military Law.
This is the meaning of Sovereign Immunity. There is NO restraint upon the actions of the USG either abroad or at home. Nor is there any possibility of reversing the trends Claude A.I. described.
This is also why our Marxist regime is beginning a narrative to pigeon-hole Christian Nationalism, and all Christianity, as a terrorist threat. This is the reason the Romans crucified Jesus. Jesus said to give unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and to give unto God that which is God's. In Roman law, Caesar own everything and as such Caesar was god. What Jesus said was sedition and treason. And the state killed Him for it.
Im not taking the side of the government in Israel. I have stated in almost all the comments I have made. His Covenant is with the People and the Land.
And if we are grafted into that Olive Tree, we inherit the promises both good and bad. But if we boast against the branches of that tree into which we have been grafted? One of those promises is that He can cut us off.
His divorced Israel for a time, then went back to calling her His Beloved.
When big scriptural ideas make me scratch my
head, I try taking it down to a far smaller bite.
In this case, I think if it as a relatively happily married couple or a parent/child relationship. You may have a huge disagreement or grievance but at the end of the day (or week, LOL!) you come back together.
In your married couple instance, suppose one party had already remarried. That's what ancient Israel did. They were worshipping Baal, and whatever other diety-of-the-month they could find in Canaan.
The book of Hosea tells of the accounts of an adulterous wife (Israel) and a faithful husband (God) and all through Hosea's wife a-whoring ways, he remains married to her under God's guidance.
God has not forsaken Israel, no matter what gods they've chosen to follow. God is faithful to His word, His ways and will NEVER forsake her.
As Jeremiah 31:35-36 states, "Thus says the LORD, who gives the sun for light by day, who sets in order the moon and stars for light by night, who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar—the LORD of Hosts is His name: 36“Only if this fixed order departed from My presence,
declares the LORD, would Israel’s descendants ever cease
I think many are confusing people's hate for Israel as hate for their government. It has nothing to do with their peoples, but rather their murderous government.
The American govt has a historical record of oppressing, alienating, and murdering entire groups of people who don’t align with ‘her views.’ When will boomers realize that WE are the bad guys in all scenarios? It’s like they don’t even see the truth right in front of them!
Like Aloha, I grew up in dispensational churches. That's how I was taught. And "simply hating Israel" was something I was never exposed to. Like most people of my generation, I had nothing but sympathy for Israel. Your either/or is a non-starter. I came to a fuller understanding of God's covenant through an intensive self-study of His entire Word by self-consciously approaching the Word without any preconceived ideas relying only on the promise that if asked the Holy Spirit will open the Word to you. When I was finished, I then examined everything I had been taught and believed in light of what I had learned with only the guidance of the Holy Spirit. I had to swallow a number of "red pills". It was only later that I learned of the "short" history of dispensational theology.
If you want to understand His love, understand His covenant. Jesus and Paul spent a great deal of effort explaining this.
Romans 11 Paul is speaking of ethnic Israel, not Israel as a nation. This is clear from the context and other writings of Paul.
Regarding Ezekiel 38, your interpretation is the dispensational one, a view that was not held until fairly recently by the church.
When I became a Christian in 1990 I was told by dispensationalist teachers that the generation following Israel's rebirth would usher in the rapture. I was told a generation is about 40-45 years old. Well, that would put it about 1995 and here we are 76 years post 1948.
What I think we can agree on is that people like Mike Johnson making United States foreign policy decisions based on his dispensationalist end times views is absolutely insane and quite frankly un-American.
The Land received only sprinkles of rain for 1800 years. Even Mark Twain wrote about it in ‘Innocents Abroad’.
Twain described Israel as a “…desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds—a silent mournful expanse… We never saw a human being on the whole route… There was hardly a tree or a shrub anywhere. Even the olive and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil, had almost deserted the country.”
But as the people began to trickle back in, the rains started falling, gently at first, and as the people tended the Land, it blossomed and bloomed and they now feed as many people in the world as the US .
You cannot unlink the importance of the Land AND the People from His promises to both.
Most people have no idea the TRILLIONS of dollars we send to most nations around the world. Nor do they realize the size of Israel is smaller than NJ, surrounded by a SEAL of Arabs who HATE Israel. At one point, Israel is only 8 (EIGHT!!!) miles wide!!! Surrounded by enemies who are constantly attacking her.
Two thousand two hundred American soldiers were killed at Pearl Harbor, we went and killed 3.5 million Japanese, including 100,000 in one night. 2,800 Americans on September 11. We went and killed 400,000 people in Afghanistan and Iraq. We were not accused of genocide.
Yet, Americans are angry because we send money to protect the only truly free nation in the ME? Because we don’t like their government? And we accuse their government of being corrupt, when we have actual DEMONS running our nation?
And the amount of ‘aid’ we send Israel is a drop in the bucket of what we send the terrorist networks Hamas , Hezbollah, Iran, Iraq and yes…..even the oil-rich nations of the UAE! Obama started ISIS…….
The vast majority of foreign aid to Israel comes right back to the United States. RE: military aid, Israel is oft called the largest American aircraft carrier in the Middle east.
Yes, military aid goes in the pockets of the rich corporations who make bombs, planes, tanks, guns, drones, missiles, etc. The US government takes it from taxpayers and splits it up with rich corporations and foreign nations. And it's really not money, because we have none. It's just hot-off-the-press currency not backed by anything.
If the modern Israel state is blessed by God and raking in the cash growing food (and they are very successful in the tech industry), then why do they need the broke United States to buy their weapons? Would they be more geared toward peace if we weren't loading their guns for them? I don't believe we do it for Israel; we do it for the arms dealers who know how to lobby (pay off) Congress.
The neediest nation I know of and the most deserving is the United States. Do you know the U.S. has people living on the streets, cities overrun with crime and drugs, senior citizens who can't afford food and medicine, and children who are being trafficked? On top of that, the president is senile, the government is crooked, and doctors are giving lethal injections without telling their patients what's in them.
Flipping the question: if you were Israel already making lots of money, would you still say no to the US offering to provide you with weapons for free?
If Israel were I, then yes, I wouldn't take them. But if I am Israel rather than being myself, I'd be wanting to use OPM (other peoples' money) so I could keep mine. You know, the love of money really is the root of all evil.
Israel is still a desert. Rainfall patterns didn't change. The Jews (credit to them) drained the swamps, instilled irrigation, etc. which allowed for it's agriculture. Similiar to CA.
The land promises to Israel were all fulfilled at the peak of Joshua's reign.
You need to do some more research, Aloha. It barely rained there for 1800 years. But the rain returned, whether you want to believe it or not.
Yes, there is still much to do, but the God of Israel has helped His people, Israel, to turn the Land, Israel, into a Land where food aplenty is growing. That was NOT happening until the People came back and were reunited with the Land.
And I very much doubt you know much of anything about their government. The Knesset is one of the hardest governments on the planet to understand. I have studied it, and still scratch my head.
But then I look at our government, which seems to be THE most corrupt on the planet……..and want to gag.
I think Replacement Theology has a hold on a lot of people, causing them to want to turn on Israel. And that is a huge mistake.
I'm not sure we should send military aid overseas. I wouldn't object to humanitarian aid to Israel if needed, but it wouldn't be because there was also an ancient people with the same name as today's country.
Thanks for sharing all that. I do believe that there should be a Jewish homeland. Poor people have been like nomads forever. Perhaps that is why they don't have strong national sentiments or why they have too much liberal say in domestic politics? Historical memories shape the ideas of people for centuries, even millenia.
What is interesting about Islamic Palestinians is that unlike Christians in countries where there is conflict against them, they do not give an inch. They rather die than submit. On the other hand, Palestinian Christians, ancient people there from the time of Jesus, have largely emigrated. The same with ethnic Christians in Turkey, Egypt, and other countries.
History is a fascinatingfactor in sociology. That is why I love RFKJR. He is well studied, a rarity in the American landscape.
If you take into account the fact that there are no ethnic Jews, Israel's quest for additional land doesn't appear to be vindication of any right. The ancient Jews intermarried of their own choice, and against God's orders. They lost their status as a religion and as a nation, though they don't actually acknowledge this.
I believe this generation will usher in end times, though I don’t believe in the rapture. A generation is a changing thing. In Methuselah’s time it was obviously vastly different than now. In the USA, it’s now something like 72.5 years, down from 74ish (thanks to covid vaccines, no doubt). Ed Dowd can give the exact numbers.
In other countries, the generation is slightly different. Which is God going by? I’m guessing Israel’s but in any case, the dry bones of Ezekiel have been put together May of 1948, and we are 76 years in.
I personally compare Trump to the biblical Cyrus and tend to think something huge may happen (albeit quietly or…not) May 18, and there will be hints on the Jewish calendar. I KNOW something big will occur in November. Pay attention to the Jewish calendar.
And consider that God maybe is not going to suck us up like a Hoover, and that a NEW earth will become our dwelling place— with the
I believe almost all of them were already fulfilled. Again, my view might seem strange or foreign but these are what Christians the world over believed for 1900 years and outside of the US still do.
One last point. We are told by dispensationalists that if we as a nation bless Israel (foreign aid) then we ourselves will be blessed. Since we've started being Israel's greatest benefactor in the world, who could actually argue the US has the blessing of God upon it. It's been nothing but decline since I've been alive and the decline is accelerating. So there doesn't appear to be any blessing with giving $ to Israel, in fact quite the opposite.
But if by us supporting and giving $ Israel God is blessing us as a nation then we shouldn't have done such things. I'm just saying, I don't see any blessing or benefit to 'blessing' or showering Israel with $. Also, if the modern state of Israel is the still 'the apple of God's eye" (I used to hear Chuck Smith of Calvary Chapel say that) then He's got their back. They don't need $ from any nation. When Israel prospered in ancient times, they didn't need aid from foreign countries (yes some countries paid tribute or gave gifts but this was not needed for them to be strong and stable) and God didn't require other countries to provide such aid (exempting the once instance where Babylon provided means to rebuild the Temple post exile).
Here's reality: They should be relying on God for their protection, but the people of Israel, for the most part, don't believe in God and almost all absolutely reject Jesus Christ. Israel is a secular state if there ever was one.
You may not know as much about Israel (that’s the truth) as you think you do.
The nation Israel is deep in sin as regards abortion and every other form of unrighteousness. So is the United States of America and almost every other nation on the face of the earth.
God is moving. Judgement is coming. And out of it, a new world is coming, with a special place for the nation of Israel.
There's a "special place" for every human being, but I don't think God deals with a country as a unit. Remember, the modern Israel did not exist at any time when the Bible was written. The modern Israel is filled with people of every religion, including Buddhists.
As is our government. Ours is actually filled with practicing Luciferians. We claimed the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob when we were established as a nation. We too have asked Him to leave our nation and since He will not stay where He is not wanted, He has withdrawn Himself. Their government is in as much of a mess as ours. The only way that they will see Him is when He reveals Himself to them as individuals. And He is doing so. He is also revealing Himself to Muslims, Buddhists…..even Luciferians.
The Israel of old was likewise filled with people who worshipped a variety of false gods.
They failed over and over again in attempting to keep the covenants made with God. They sacrificed their children to Molech and practiced ritual sexual perversion.
Outside a faithful remnant, they were not pure by any means and were continuously warned by the many prophets sent to them. They were removed from the land because of their apostasy. The first removal was relatively short before Cyrus freed them to return and rebuild as is told in Ezra and Nehemiah.
Jesus is a Jew. He came to this imperfect, messed up nation. Besides a faithful remnant, he was rejected. And afterwards the Jews were removed again. This last removal has lasted for 2,000 years of suffering that came to a head with Hitler and the Holocaust. Ironically, without the Holocaust, there would be no modern nation Israel. Hitler was made to serve the purposes of God.
According to Peter, a thousand years is like a day to God, so that we should not wonder about the passing of so much time. God exists outside of time.
Israel is beloved by God. And in the end God will be beloved by Israel.
How are they relying on God, when there's only one way to God, through Jesus Christ, whom they reject? Some are relying on a religion, and that's not going to cut it.
The scriptures say the day is coming when the nation Israel will accept the one they had rejected. The story foretold by the Old Testament prophets and explained by the Apostle Paul in Romans is not over.
up your mind and made your own gospel according to
you.
If God tells me He will bless those who bless Israel and curse those
who curse her, I believe it, regardless of what is going on on the
surface. Yea,
they should rely
on him but we, in some
cases, are his hands and feet.
Have you ever heard the joke abt the flood waters rising and the Christian prays for rescue. A fire truck comes along to get him and he won’t get in bc “God has got this. He’s going to rescue me”. The waters get higher so a boat comes along and he won’t get in. Then he’s on his roof and a helicopter comes along. He won’t go. He starts to swim and he’s angry at God for not rescuing him. God looks down and says he tried, via a truck, a boat and a helicopter! He uses US to bless THEM. I for one am continuing to be one that helps, even though I know God doesn’t necessarily need little
old
me. After all, same could be said for multiplying Trump it any of the people we multiply.
I've made up my own gospel by believing what all Christians believed until like 15 minutes ago.
Show me in the NT where it says that those who bless the state of Israel will be blessed and those who curse her will be cursed. I'm excited to this passage.
Do not let these misinterpretations of Scripture mislead you, friend. Cognitive Dissonance will not allow many to discern and understand. These folks refuse to accept that the Old Covenant was fulfilled and only the New Covenant through Jesus the Christ is relevant now. They just cannot let it go, likely because it takes all power away from them. Psalm 118:8
You seriously need to read the entire Bible. The Word says that He knew the end from the beginning. You cannot understand Revelation if you do not understand the beginning. And when you do away with the Covenant, you do away with the need for Yeshua (Jesus).
Gen. 12:3 And I will bless them that bless you and curse them that curse you.
Isaiah 60:12 And those who will not serve you will be utterly destroyed,
perish.
Isaiah 41:11-12 Behold all those who strive with you shall perish. They shall be utterly destroyed. **It goes on quite a bit after this, describing calamities to come to them who hurt Israel.
Matthew 25:34-ff: Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
Who are these brethren? I'm guessing they are Jews...
Understanding who 'Israel' is has been missed by many supposed Christians. Israel is the Church, the Bride of Christ. Only heretical dispensationalists and zionists think that the nation-state called Israel that was established in the 20th Century is the same as the Israel from God's Holy Word.
Any 'Christian' who places Israel above Jesus is blasphemous and an enemy to God. I do not apologize for writing truth, and I welcome debate.
Yes. That's 100 percent it. Don't look at Israel (post WW2 state) as God's people when in fact it is the body of believers who are God's people, call it "spiritual Israel" or just "the church." The new covenant, not the old one, is in effect now. Jesus fulfilled the old one. Christians should rescue, not wait to be rescued.
When Zedekiah was slaughtered in battle with all his sons, his daughters went on and settled Scotland, Ireland and G Britain. When the jews were soundly defeated by the assyrian, they scattered over the Caucasus Mtns. (hence the name Caucasian) and the European countries. Israel is everywhere Israelites are everywhere, but Israel is Israel, too.
I don’t anyone who places Israel before God or Jesus. That’s never even crossed my mind.
I don’t think Israel in the Bible is the bride of Christ. I think Israel is Israel, Jerusalem is Jerusalem, a shining city on a hill, the Jordan River is the Jordan river and all the other places are pretty much who they are except of course, the renamed places like Persia is Iran, I think, and so on. I DO think the USA is sort of “Israel, Jr.”.
Respectfully, I strongly suggest that you try to read Scripture through the lens of the people that wrote it, instead of imposing modern literalism on it. Otherwise, you miss so much of what it is saying. Many times, especially in prophecy, things like "Persia" and "Zion" are not strictly literal - eg, "Babylon" in Revelation should be an obvious example. Taking the figurative as literal is to misunderstand God's revelation.
It's as if someone told you they had "ants in their pants", and you asked what species of ant.
I do believe that Israel is Israel. To us, seems as though God might’ve done a different thing/ gone abt making his beloved country in a different way, but then again, isn’t that just like Him —to do things entirely the opposite of how we’d expect? He ushered in the savior, the eventual King of the Jews by way of a donkey. He offered us eternal
life by sacrificing His only begotten son. He goes about doing things far differently than we.
Precisely. Avi Abelow, who makes the short informational videos for pulseofisrael.com, expresses the frustration of patriotic Israelis at the control the U.S. exerts upon them. They would love total independence.
‘W’ Bush and company did not fight that war for Israel. It was all for their own financial gain.
As for God’s blessing on any nation today, with the exception of some African countries that seem to be practicing Godliness, I don’t know any deserving. I think there’s more of a setting up the scenario for the final drama and God is moving to cause this and that to take place.
I, myself, feel personally very blessed for my lifelong stand for Israel. My 4 children and 13 grandchildren serve the Lord. The youngest was just baptized a few weeks ago.
"Harry S. Truman, the 33rd President of the United States, played a crucial role in the recognition of Israel as a legitimate Jewish state. On May 14, 1948, just 11 minutes after Israel’s declaration of independence, Truman became the first world leader to officially recognize Israel."
And another way:
"Richard Nixon played a crucial role in the 1973 Yom Kippur War, a pivotal moment in the history of Israel. During the war, Israel was caught off guard by a surprise attack from Egypt and Syria, and was facing a dire situation. Nixon, who was the President of the United States at the time, quickly responded to the crisis by ordering a massive airlift of military equipment and supplies to Israel."
Thus says the Lord GOD: O my people, I will open your graves and have you rise from them, and bring you back to the land of Israel. Then you shall know that I am the LORD, when I open your graves and have you rise from them, O my people! I will put my spirit in you that you may live, and I will settle you upon your land; thus you shall know that I am the LORD. I have promised, and I will do it, says the LORD. Ezekiel 37:12-14
Of what other nation has the Lord said, ‘O my people!’
The United States became a major power when it supported the fledgling nation, Israel.
When Great Britain supported the Jewish people with a movement that resulted in the new creation of Israel, they were a world empire. When they betrayed Israel almost immediately after its statehood began, that great empire began to crumble.
The United States has been a false friend to Israel for many decades now, and many in power seek her destruction. There are secret alliances with her enemies and even open gifting of vast sums to Iran, who is the root and support of the terrorist groups that are completely open about their goal to exterminate all Jews.
God is not mocked. He knows what to bless and what to curse.
Read the heartbreak in Jesus words about His longing to shelter Israel.
He indeed fulfilled God’s covenant purposes. He created a new covenant and in the end there will be great rejoicing when Israel repents and mourns the one they have pierced.
We have destroyed our blessings with child/adult porn, abortion, corrupt political leaders, turning away from God, taking Him out of our daily lives. We have turned our back on God. You are taking a snip out of the Bible.
You make a great point, Aloha50. Israel is the Church (Bride of Christ), not the nation-state established after God destroyed Jerusalem. Do not be deceived by dispensationalist heresy. God used Rome to destroy Jerusalem in 70AD as punishment for rejecting Jesus as the Messiah. The establishment of the nation-state of Israel is an affront to God and does not bear His blessing. I welcome debate on this issue...
I think he meant the "Church Invisible" (or whatever terminology one prefers)... it is indeed obvious to anyone who looks that "most churches" are merely social clubs paying lip service to Christ, rather than parts of the real Church. It's one of the perils of living in a society where "Christian" is (or used to be) considered socially positive.
I disagree that the modern state of Israel is an insult to God -- I would merely say that it is a secular nation no different from any other, and not especially blessed by God other than what he does with any other nation based on their actions. However, those who misinterpret secular Israel as ancient Covenant Israel are misreading the scripture and may well be an affront to God if they do so stubbornly rather than in ignorance.
That said, I also think that it's probably a good thing for Jewish people to have a secular state specifically for them to live in, given the continued existence of radical segments of Islam that do quite literally want to genocide all Jews. Part of the rationale for the British creating Israel was to prevent the possibility of Holocaust 2.0.
But the Balfour Declaration (1917) was long before the supposed holocaust, although the number of six million has been used since at least the beginning of the 20th Century. Have you ever seen the newspaper headline from the 1930’s with the headline, “Judea Declares War on Germany”?
Things are not what they seem and yes, history has purposefully been obscured by confusing accounts from multiple sources.
Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 mention the synagogue of satan…those who say they are Jews but are not really Jews.
Understanding this issue begins with discerning the truth about who and what the ‘players’ are.
Pastor Chuck Baldwin is an excellent source for interpreting scriptural prophecy and his website has his sermons available for streaming at
This is a spiritual war and humans are mainly unaware of the manipulation we constantly endure from the spiritual realm. I don’t hate Jews or any other humans, as we are all equal in God’s eyes. Not one people elevated above another, or placed below. We all have Jesus available, because the New Covenant is through His sacrifice and not anything we do or who we are as a culture.
If you read Galatians 3, as you probably have, the church is now Israel and heirs of God's promises to Abraham. It isn't a piece of real estate or an ethnic group that has intermarried itself out of existence.
Ah…..replacement theology. That’s a dangerous, unscriptural teaching.
The ‘church’ was established by Edomites. (Esau and Ishmael’s progeny)
Those who became believers have been grafted into the Olive Tree, but we have been warned against boasting and ridiculing the olive branches that were cut off. Did you know that an olive branch that has become unfruitful can be cut off and lay beside the olive tree for years and STILL be grafted BACK into the tree and produce fruit?
Did you know that’s why His side was pierced?
The olive tree has to be pierced for a WILD olive branch to be grafted in. The implant is placed into the pierced side, of the TREE, then wrapped in linen .
How long before the graft takes hold?
Three days!!! (Resurrection!)
But He said if you boast against the original branch, you are in danger of being cut off yourself.
May that never be!!. Because HE will restore the original branch and it WILL produce fruit.
The Edomites church has taught this lie of replacement theology and it is a Lie, just as Esau and Ishmael told lies is Isaac and then Jacob throughout the Bible, their children and their children’s children are teaching those same lies today.
Well, I don't know any Edomites and they haven't taught me any lies. You can wait for God to give Israel more real estate if you like, but don't miss out on the Kingdom of God.
One day the Pharisees asked Jesus, “When will the Kingdom of God come?”
Jesus replied, “The Kingdom of God can’t be detected by visible signs. You won’t be able to say, ‘Here it is!’ or ‘It’s over there!’ For the Kingdom of God is already among you."
I always return to Mark 12:30-31, New International Version
30 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’[a] 31 The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b] There is no commandment greater than these.”
Sometimes it is pretty easy to see who loves their neighbor or not.
I think maybe she thinks we’re not loving each other because we are debating. Jesus was the most controversial person, who ever walked the earth, but some Christians think we should always be ‘nice’ and never speak our minds.
As for myself, I think the highest form of love of neighbor is to speak the Truth.
Agreed, though to adapt a separate piece of scripture, "do it with gentleness and respect". Or otherwise, don't despise your brother, even when you think he is badly wrong. (I'm apply this to all of us, in reply to you since you brought it up.)
As long as we are criticizing doctrines and facts, and not individuals and motives (unless obviously revealed), it is a good thing to "sharpen" one another.
Willing Spirit, what was the video about? Many people hijack Jonathan Cahn’s videos because he is so well-known, yo make money for themselves. It appears that this is what has happened to this video. (It has happened countless times. The person doing it should be arrested, and he is stealing material. But these thieves do it to other famous people too)
Anyway, I would like to look under Mr. Cahn’s official page and see if this particular video is there.
Any thorough Biblical study of God's covenant quickly reveals that God's promises of judgement are just as important as His promises of blessing. Unfortunately, most of the church today makes no attempt to understand His covenant before they go off making prophetic charts of His blessings. His covenant really isn't that hard to understand but our preconceived notions disallow an objective understand of what the Word is saying.
Starting with the Fall of Adam and Eve in the garden, God's covenant has always been about the redemption and restoration that will be accomplished through the coming of His Messiah. With the coming of the Second Adam, Jesus Christ, the blessings and the curses of God's covenant were fulfilled with His death, resurrection and ascension to the throne at the right hand of the Father to rule and reign till the end of time when the last enemy, Death, will be conquered. Because of Christ's ascension and glorification, Satan fell from heaven to earth like lightening and now the power of the Holy Spirit to redeem all of life empowers His body on earth to carry out the restoration putting all things under His feet. This is the work Christ gave to his church subjecting all evil spirits to His body on earth.
But instead of understanding that the fulfillment of the the Old Covenant promises with the coming of the Messiah requires a change in the administration of God's covenant thus bringing in the New Covenant in Christ's blood, the church still believes the lie that Satan has authority on earth and believes their work is only to wait for Christ to return to rescue them from Satan's rule. The church by and large fails to understand that all the blessings and curses of the Old Covenant were poured out within THE SAME GENERATION between Christ's resurrection and the destruction of Jerusalem and His Temple in 70 AD. The church will not be the salt to society she was meant to be until she regains a thorough understand of the New Covenant that the life, death and resurrection of the Messiah, Jesus Christ, achieved.
Amen Phil, nailed it. Sadly many US Christians have been taught otherwise and even worse have been taught that this view (the one believed by Christians for 1900 years) is 'replacement theology' which is a euphimism for 'racist' or 'anti-semite'.
Right?! There is no such thing as "replacement". There has ever been only one covenant and we see it from Genesis to Revelation. In fact, the Bible is the text of that covenant. When the Son of God came to His own, those that received Him inherited the blessings of the covenant and upon those that rejected Him were poured out the judgement of the covenant as Paul went to great lengths to explain that they were the branches that were cut out of the good olive tree at the same time that the wild olive branches, the Gentiles, were grafted in by their faith in the Messiah.
After reviewing the other comments of today, it became obvious that I should have stated something that I just ASSUMED (you know how that goes) was a given. Apparently, it's not, ie, the Trinity. God is three Persons - Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Jesus is the Second Person of the Trinity, the one and the many. Without that Biblical starting point, there can be no agreement with anything else. That'll teach me to assume.
I was raised on a church pew. My Fatger was a pastor.
I know that time is cyclical, not a straight line, as we have been taught. So I threw out dispensationalism a long, long time ago.
Then I caught on to what you obviously and other still believe…..that your ‘god’ is capricious and changeable and that He does not keep His Word.
My God is the God who made promises to bless the entire world through His people Israel. Not through their government. Through them.
And He has and is keeping that promise.
However the state of Israel, in its current form, came about……it was HIS doing.
He uses men to establish nations. Just as He used men to establish this nation.
But He is not a God Who makes promises that He does not keep. And He promised them that He would take them back. And He did.
His desire for them and for all nations is that each nation would have righteous leaders. But as mankind has proven over and over, we cannot govern ourselves. We need Him to govern us.
He is not capricious.
He is Faithful.
He cannot deny Who He Is.
He, Himself said that He does NOT change. He has not forsaken the people of Israel nor has He forsaken His Land.
The way God kept his promise to bless the entire world through Israel is by the redemptive love and sacrifice of Jesus Christ. Capricious? No. Read 2 Cor. 1:
17 You may be asking why I changed my plan. Do you think I make my plans carelessly? Do you think I am like people of the world who say “Yes” when they really mean “No”? 18 As surely as God is faithful, our word to you does not waver between “Yes” and “No.” 19 For Jesus Christ, the Son of God, does not waver between “Yes” and “No.” He is the one whom Silas,[f] Timothy, and I preached to you, and as God’s ultimate “Yes,” he always does what he says. 20 For all of God’s promises have been fulfilled in Christ with a resounding “Yes!” And through Christ, our “Amen” (which means “Yes”) ascends to God for his glory.
Replacement Theology is a very real teaching and it is very much alive and well.
Dispensationalism is much like Replacement Theology. Based on linear Greek mindset…..which is how most people outside the Middle East think.
Time is cyclical. God is outside of time.
Greek thinking is that ‘this happens, then never happens again. And that’s simply not true.
Any student of history who does not see that history repeats itself is blind in one eye and can’t see out of the other.
Dispensationalism is , in a nutshell beginning |______|_____|_____|end
God sent people who were ‘types and shadows’ of Yeshua……fractals…..such as Joseph, Moses.
The cycle is “Hard times create strong
(I would also say ‘righteous’) men, Righteos men create easy(blessed) times, blessed times created weak men, weak men create hard times. Round and round we go.
He sent a Redeemer. Yeshua….His real name, which means Salvation.
And He will come and set up His Kingdom. Yet, according to the Word, there will still be people who will rebel. Because He said if they do not send representatives to a specific place…..the place where HE placed HIS Name….Jerusalem…..that those nations will get no rain. That’s why I stand for Israel. HE is the one Who said He placed His Name on Jerusalem. He said Jerusalem is His.
It is the Land. It is the people.
The West cannot seem to wrap its head around the fact that something can be more than one thing at the same time .
The flood, for instance, was both a blessing and a curse. A curse because of those with tainted DNA, but a blessing to Noah and to the earth for it was cleansed.
(Unfortunately someone on that boat had tainted DNA. I have a feeling I know who it was, but I can’t prove it).
The judgement that is coming will be a blessing for the righteous (those who exercise right judgement) but a curse for those who have given themselves over to delusion, or whom He has “…..given over to a reprobate mind, to believe a lie, and be damned”.
Here’s sone thing interesting to look at to prove He is still in love with the Land and the people.
Look at the Scriptures re Mt Ebal and Mt Gerizim. One Mountain was cursed, as it still is today. One mountain received a blessing, and it is still blessed today (at least as soon as one nation took control of it)
Now. Look at who has control of those mountains, and then tell me it is no longer the land….or the people.
It’s an interesting study, if you’re willing to do it.
Oh... I don't doubt that there is something called Replacement Theology. That's not my position. And I am beginning to get an idea where you are coming from. The "cyclical time" gave it away. At any rate, I see you have a whole rational for your position (even if it's not Biblically based), so knock yourself out. I'll watch from the sidelines.
It is Biblically based. When you study the Word in the original language, Hebrew, it changes your perspective.
I get why you think it isn’t Biblically based. You don’t study the Word in its original language. You still believe what the CC taught, as Protestants never left that religion behind. The ‘church’ wanted to celebrate the pagan holidays…..one of the sins of Israel was that they didn’t want to be a ‘peculiar’ people. They wanted to do the pagan things.
I get it.
I did ‘sun’ day worship and all those pagan things the ‘church’ was doing.
I had no problems following the “Thou shalt not” commandments. It was the first four I had a problem with, as do most Christians. Especially the Sabbath. Hardest command of all. Yet, it has become our greatest blessing.
So, yeah.
I get that people who believe that His Word has been altered. Done away with refuse to believe His entire Word from the Revelation all the way back to Genesis.
I believe every single word. And that that Word became flesh. I believe it all…..but it has to be studied in context and rightly divided.
Btw, nothing much grows on Mt Ebal, but there are vineyards and villages on Mt Gerizim. His curse still remains on Mt and the blessings returned to Gerizim)
Some of His promises are ‘oaths’ some are ‘vows’. A vow has conditions.
“If you will, then I will…..”
An oath is simply “I will….”
His blessing to Abraham and his descendants are without any conditions. And those blessings remain. An oath. They were translated as the same word, but they are not the same in the original language.
Then I caught on to what you obviously and other still believe…..that your ‘god’ is capricious and changeable and that He does not keep His Word.....................
Sorry... I HAD to break in at this point and laugh - LOL
People have a tendency to put a label on an idea or person, and then they've dispensed with that crazy idea or person. We see it in politics, with labels like "racist," "misogynist," etc. In church groups, "Replacement Theology" tidies everything up and allows it to be shelved, and those people can now be kicked to the curb. Jesus fulfilled the old covenant. He IS the reward promised by God. Disappointing to some, who expected real estate.
Aloha50–Your first paragraph in your first comment answers your own question in the word IF. Many of God‘s promises were/are conditional. So yes, He reserves the right. He is sovereign.
My husband's eschatology has matched yours for decades. It's so vastly different from what is preached in most American churches, that it's hard to wrap my head around. However, as I'm seeing the mounting failures of the American church in general - (false gospels of prosperity & happiness, a total lack of preparedness for the trials ans tribulations we are promised to encounter) - I'm beginning to understand the fact we got this wrong too. The word "rapture" never even appeared in the Bible until the Douay- Rheims version. I'm slowly listening to a sermon series on Revelation that breaks this down. I'm interested to understand!
I don’t believe the word rapture is in any version of the Bible including the Douay-Rheims version. In the New Testament Greek the word harpazo appears which means snatching or catching away….
Heard that Aloha50 argument yesterday from Tiredcitizen. So, “Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundations? Tell me, if you understand” (Job 38:4). Who are you to handcuff God Himself to yesterday? “Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever” (Hebrews 13:8). “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training in righteousness so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work” (2 Timothy 3:16-17). “The ears of those who hear will listen” (Isaiah 32:3).
that whole passage in Job is my favorite guide to orient my place in the universe. I am not "the potter", only "clay. it is enough, and I am at peace in chaos. so.
Also to think about is the fact that Israel, the modern state, is not the same Israel to whom God made promises. If everyone in that country sent in DNA for testing, you wouldn't find a true ethnic Jew descended from Abraham.
Abraham was so long ago that honestly I'd be surprised if a large portion of the earth's population didn't have some degree of descent from him. There's no question that a great many people in modern Israel do trace descent from Abraham, but even in Covenant Israel it was never a question of biological descent - consider Ruth and Rahab as two examples.
(And none of that should be taken to imply that anyone can be part of the "Israel of God" while rejecting Christ. "It is not the children according to the flesh", and all that.)
Good points, TB. The Israelites' intermarriage was widespread and boundless. They abandoned God; the temple was destroyed; they demanded a human king . . . The whole sad story is there so we can see that they are like us. They can't keep the rules because no human being can. They are held up as an example of what NOT to do, and why the sacrifice of Jesus was necessary. The thread of the story is a Savior, not a batch of unruly people. Though they were faithless, God remains faithful.
Most people on this thread have no idea what they are talking about.
Not one eh?.
Zephaniah 2: 9 Therefore as I live, saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, Surely Moab shall be as Sodom, and the children of Ammon as Gomorrah, even the breeding of nettles, and saltpits, and a perpetual desolation: the residue of my people shall spoil them, and the remnant of my people shall possess them.
10 This shall they have for their pride, because they have reproached and magnified themselves against the people of the LORD of hosts.
Zecheriah 8: 11 But now I will not be unto the residue of this people as in the former days, saith the LORD of hosts.
12 For the seed shall be prosperous; the vine shall give her fruit, and the ground shall give her increase, and the heavens shall give their dew; and I will cause the remnant of this people to possess all these things.
13 And it shall come to pass, that as ye were a curse among the heathen, O house of Judah, and house of Israel; so will I save you, and ye shall be a blessing: fear not, but let your hands be strong.
Zecheriah 14: 1 ¶ Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
Jeremiah 31 speaks of Israel's restoration - verse 3 states, ....."Yes, I have loved you with an EVERLASTING love; therefore, with lovingkindness I have drawn you"
AND AGAIN:
vs. 34 No more shall every man teach his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the Lord. For I will FORGIVE their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more.”
35 Thus says the Lord, Who gives the sun for a light by day,
The ordinances of the moon and the stars for a light by night,
Who disturbs the sea, And its waves roar (The Lord of hosts is His name):
36 “If those ordinances depart from before Me, says the Lord,
Then the seed of Israel shall also cease from being a NATION before Me forever.”
Sounds to me God has FULLY committed to Israel for as long as we still have the sun and the moon!
NO! The Church is the Bride of Christ. Israel has always been portrayed as "married to God" as the book of Hosea displays. The Church is NOT Israel, no matter how you slice it
I would like to purchase your devotional book when you're ready. Thank you for consistently sharing God's Word in this 'Stack's comment section. I pray that the Lord protects you and blesses you beyond measure, and you are strengthened and encouraged in your ministry to spread the Gospel and share the love of our Father to all, in Jesus' name, amen.
He is sovereign over all, even the Devil. From Luke 4:6 GEN
And the devil said unto him, All this (a) power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is (b) delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.
(a) By this word "power" are meant the kingdoms themselves which have the power: and so this is said using the figure of speech metonymy.
(b) This is surely so, for he is prince of the world, but not absolutely, and is the sovereign of it only by permission and request, and therefore he does not truly say that he can give it to whom he will.
Modern Israel certainly falls in the category of doing evil in God's sight and not listening to His voice. The genocide of the innocent Palestinian civilians is the current transgression by Israel. Yet US House bows down to them and obeys BiBi's order to aid in his mass slaughter. God is love, not prejudice, not hatred, not murder. For those of you who support Israel's heinous crimes, what will you say to God when you face Him? If you condone, deny, encourage or turn a blind eye to the mass murder of God's Palestinian children, how can you hope to enter God's kingdom now or ever? Any mentally ill person can interpret the Bible according to his own delusions, but can any of you honestly say it pleases God to see genocide of people he created out of His own love?
And so it’s ok with you if Israel gets attacked and their citizens murdered, but it’s not ok for them to fight back? And who are any of us to decide at what measure they should stop fighting back? Do you have the intel they do? Are you privy to the inner conversations of Israel defense military? Do you have advanced knowledge and communications of the enemy and their plan? When do you stop fighting back against the enemy who celebrates your slaughter? Maybe Israel should try to reason with the enemy and have them write down a list of their demands and placate to them just like the President of Columbia University just did with the spoiled brats protesting and tearing up their campus and disrupting everything? What a shameful display that was. I was embarrassed for the spineless man in charge who got his nuts handed to him on a silver platter then thanked them for doing it to him. Maybe participation trophies weren’t handed out equally to the bullies demanding their way. 🤔
I find it interesting that people seem to get on the band wagon of Israel committing genocide against innocent people who live amidst the enemy who continues to try and destroy them and celebrate it.
Would you sit and discuss the demands of a gang of meth heads raping women and children? Because if you go in with force surely innocent people might get killed too. War is ugly. All of this is ugly and I’m sure any sane person would agree we wished it weren’t happening. But to call Israel guilty of genocide when you don’t know probably a tenth of the actual facts is egotistical. You think you know? You don’t. You aren’t there. You don’t have the information they deal with and know what they know. None of us does. The war mongers are telling us what they want us to think we know. Pppffttt. Is Israel govt corrupt? I would say yes, just like ours. I’m glad I’m not God because I see no humanly way to sort this out and be the righteous judge that He is.
Well said, Sunnydaze. Also he/she? doesn't understand the history of Palestine and their charter that implicitly states that they want Israel and their people dead. No negotiations, just dead. At least 5 generations of children raised by Hamas, a terrorist organization, to hate with all their might and poison every thought towards the extinction of Israel. They don't want a 2 state solution - and the rest of the region knows that, which is why Egypt and the rest of the UAE have strict laws keeping them out - they don't want them. And, as Brandon OBiden and the Squad are pushing for, If we bring in 100,000 displaced Palestinians into our country, it will most assuredly be de@th to America. It's by design. And states like MN and MI are already doomed.
Exactly. Extinction is the better word to use instead of just “destroy”.
I find people just want their opinion to be right no matter what. Everybody seems to think they know it all.
I suspect even those of us who defend Israel don’t even know the half of what’s really going on. And I’m not advocating for us to send any money to Israel either. I think we can support them w/o sending money we don’t have. And I suspect whatever money gets sent isn’t really going to them or their people anyway. Enter obiden globalist bank account to spread to everyone around who are helping terrorize the world. I try to stay neutral and realize that whatever they do to defend themselves is beyond my pay grade. That’s not to say I am okay with innocent people dying. I’m not. On either side. But I do believe when the enemy cheers and shouts and salivates for your extinction the reply back being nice just won’t work. It’s funny that I don’t hear any of them shouting for Iran and Hamas to stop attacking. 🤔 Only for Israel to stop retaliating. 🙄 I suspect they are unaware by choice or media propaganda that the attacks are still happening, just not shown to the general public. But hey, they should just sit quietly and tend to the wounded day in and day out and be good little martyrs. 🤦🏼♀️
First of all in your irrational rant, you take the tact that many Israel defenders use with your ad hominem attack and twisting of my message. Let me state that I am opposed to any and all attacks on innocent citizens anywhere anytime. Also you have obviously not done your research. You've got your facts all screwed up. Furthermore, how would you feel if it were you and your family being bombed, home destroyed, grandmother assassinated, aid workers bringing food to you murdered? Wouldn't you desperately want the world to care and stop it? I have researched this extensively. I am not connected by religion, political party or any other reason to support one side or another in any conflict. I am on the side of humanitarianism and God's love. Here are just a couple of links if you have the courage to read the truth. https://www.naturalnews.com/2024-04-14-christian-pastor-israel-brutal-occupation-palestine.html, https://www.naturalnews.com/2024-04-26-how-both-israel-and-the-gop-completely-lost-my-support.html God bless!
I actually get my information from a Messianic Jew who is on the ground in Israel hiding in his bunker off and on with his wife and kids who sends reports out hourly since October. He also has done his time serving in the Israeli Army years ago so he knows things I’m guessing you have no idea about. I prefer to get information from the source.
Contrary to what ever you read into my “irrational rant”… the GOP is crap and are traitors. I do not wish for us to send Israel more money we don’t even have. I think there are ways to support that are not financial. I also don’t think you saw past anything to understand that I said any sane person wants this to stop. I don’t wish for any innocent people to be killed. But when you are in a war with an enemy that salivates for your complete extinction you are dealing with a rabid animal not capable of any rationale thought or choices. It’s demonic and influenced by pure evil. But, I’m sure you have the answer to dealing appropriately with all that through your sources. I’m sure your ideas will work if Israel’s corrupt government and the USA’s corrupt government would just listen to you and everyone else who thinks their retaliation to a rabid evil enemy is disproportionate. You’re entitled to your take and so am I. I don’t actually care about being right either. I suspect NONE of us understands the full information because NONE of us has the truth being told to us.
I think you've got it backwards. It is Israeli govt which is salivating for the complete extinction of the Palestinians. Didn't you watch the entire video Jay Horton posted? You commented on it. It certainly validates what I said about the genocide of the Palestinians committed by IDF, not your stance at all. Btw, to base your view of the situation on only one source who supposedly is coming from ground zero is to accept that person's viewpoint alone. I would suggest studying multiple reliable sources before forming an opinion. God Bless!
... if they wanted to genocide the palestinians, it would be a heck of a lot easier to just carpet-bomb the whole region instead of using ground troops and precision strikes on Hamas positions.
As I've said to other posters, positing a conspiracy where the conspirators use inefficient and harder-than-necessary means to achieve their alleged goals is not very plausible.
Like I said, the Israeli gov wants all us to think they are just defending themselves. But thanks to the internet and truthseekers, their dirty secret is coming out.
It's all about deception. The Israeli govt is a master of covering up their crimes and intentions and blaming it on others so they can get US support. Been going on since the formation of Israel and before.
Interesting since you must be privy to top secret intel that the rest of us don’t have access to. Therefore your opinion holds more water than the rest of us who might disagree. It’s ok. Join with the people and tell Israel’s women and children and other innocents that they are retaliating against pure evil too much. Maybe they’ll see it your way and let the ones who are salivating for their death and extinction call the shots. After all, what’s happening to them isn’t as bad as what’s happening to the other people. Maybe they can sit down and talk with the devil about his tactics and talk him off the ledge.
Yeah, apparently you need special intel to understand simple math. Tens of thousands dead on one side of the latest conflict, vs dozens. That would be the definition of disproportionate.
”if My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land.“
Hello Carlos, my brother-in-Christ. In my personal experience, I only recommend the Holy Bible as a reference for learning. I truly believe that anyone can read and understand the 1611 KJV if they are truly seeking God. No offense intended to you, anyone reading, or any other version of God's Word, but my personal experience is that when I truly began seeking/asking/knocking, our Heavenly Father opened my eyes with discernment. God bless you and your house.
Not to start a flame-war or anything (since we sort of got into this once before), but I would suggests that investing effort in understanding the 1611KJV is a waste when highly educated Christian scholars have produced accurate and reliable translations in much more modern English. (For any comment readers who would rather hear this from an expert instead of a random poster, I would suggest searching "Mark Ward" on youtube.)
I like to say that since in utero I was exposed regularly to the King James Version of the Bible, Elizabethean English is my first language. Hence in high school and college, I sailed right through the study of Shakespeare.
Not too many have likely had that experience, so I agree that modern versions will require a lot less work to understand.
TB…yes we’ve had some good dialogue before and I’m glad we did! Your comments are always welcome. I have no reason to disagree with you personally, as I use multiple translations in my own study. I just prefer the 1611 as my primary source and defer to it in any circumstance.
It was difficult for me to understand at one time, until my prayers were answered to open my eyes.
Fair enough. I don't really have a quarrel with anyone reading or studying it for reasons of their own choosing, just with people who want to insist on it as if it was uniquely inspired or that it should be the standard for everyone. (Thus why I question if it's worth learning to understand for those who don't already - IMO the effort would be better spent learning Greek to read it in the original language, given that's the form of words that was actually inspired by God.)
I have to admit that I'm dreading DeSantis' term ending at some point as the FL governor. I don't know that anyone else will be able to do the same or better. I know a lot has to do with the House/Senate as well, but he's been pushing for and signing all sorts of things that a lot of other states would love to see. (Of course, until we get rid of RINOs like Phelan in TX, that won't matter as much, but hoping the primaries smile on us and Dade and his ilk get sent packing.)
I'd say that the case looks good for Trump, but he's still dealing with an "impartial" jury of NY citizens. I know it only takes one person to say "not guilty" but that may still be holding out too much hope for a truly ethical jury.
Well, sometimes it requires actual Republicans/conservatives in the state Congress to get to those points as well. And sometimes you just have RINOs as governors who don't want to take any sort of possible political "risk". That's why you get some "R" governors vetoing good bills that then have to be kicked _back_ to Congress to override. Also why you had many "R" governors staying in masked up and locked down statuses well after that was necessary. (Yeah, it was never necessary, but even after FL led the way there, far too many "R" governors kept up their mask/closure nonsense.)
I’m beginning to think the term RINO is being misused. RINO’s are really people like Gaetz. Republicans have been spineless for basically forever. Those in the Freedom Caucus really carry the Republican title for the campaign funding.
Maybe, but in our case, Phelan fits the definition. Ran as a Republican, worked hard to pass things that Republicans did not and do not want, but were very much on the Democrat wishlist. Also appointed Democrats to key positions (i.e. buying their votes for Speaker). Sadly, I believe he "represents" the Austin area so he has to be over-the-top crazy to get voted out. I think he's got some good opposition in the primary, but we'll see what happens.
I remember when Walkin Lawton was our senator- from 1971-1989. Everyone loved him and thought he did a good job. Then he became governor and when he was enacting policies in the state I remember thinking it must be much easier to be a senator than a governor. I thought he was a disappointing governor. It’s a lot easier to be 1 out of 100 than to be the guy at the top with the responsibility. We needs to order cases of Swords of Damocles so these chuckleheads remember who they work for.
Like AL just to the north...MeMaw hasn't even reigned in powers of the state health officer, Scott Harris, - who is APPOINTED by an unelected State Committee of Public Health (mostly people from the Medical Association of AL). But remember, MeMaw is the one who said we needed to start blaming the spread of Covid on all the unvaccinated folks.🙄
Never mind Scott Harris (SHO) and Superintendent of the State BOE, Eric Mackey, have been associated with a left-wing group pushing radical sexxx ed.
Watch out for AL. They aren't as RED as it may appear.
It’s a happy wonder seeing Florida and Texas competing to out-conservative and out-rollback-woke each other. Florida might be winning, so let’s go, Texas! I like this race and hope it has coattails across the nation.
I am not for lab-made meat, but I do not like passing laws that go against the capitalist system of free markets. Making a law banning the sale of something takes away freedom. If there are people who want to buy that garbage, why should they be not allowed? I think it is a slippery slope. Instead of banning, the law could have been that the lab-meat be labeled as such and that it was not allowed to ever be sold mixed in with beef from American farmers. The labeling could have been legislated to be red in inch tall letters. The product was going to fail on its own with truth in labeling. I just am leery of making laws to ban what I don’t like because the other side can come in and do the same to me…
Your intelligent proposal would fail because the same government that runs the CDC and the NIH, and forces mRNA vaccines on its population, ALSO runs the FDA and thus determines how foods will be labelled. I would not trust any government letter agency to inform me truthfully these days.
I mean, if California can legislate that products must be labelled as "known to the state of California to cause cancer", surely Florida can legislate to label lab-grown meat or mRNA or whatever.
I sort of agree, except that Bill Gates is so heavily invested in pushing this and a myriad of other crap on us in the name of climate change, that an outright ban is preferable. Lab grown meat in vats uses cancer cell lines to grow it. That in itself should make us all wary. And most legislation is written in a way that they can get around what is trying to be accomplished, so “labeling requirements” really won’t be as effective as you think. I for one, do not want to eat this crap, but they’ll find a way to hide it.
Just like the bug ingredients and bio engineered crap they are hiding in food now. You pretty much have to look up everything on your phone to avoid it now. And it’s unavoidable.
I get your point Rose, but in this current "business" environment, there really isn't a pure free market with the huge mega corporations dominating the markets and their own leadership susceptibility to other agendas pushed by other Globalist forces. Until we actually cut our government by 80% or more, DeSantis is taking the necessary immediate steps to combat global elites and their truly demonic agendas.
True. In order to have a truly free market, we need to defund and shut down 80% or more of our federal, state and local governments. Unfortunately, true liberty requires an entire population with the same basic “moral code”, which in the current environment, requires a complete Christian revival, which has previously occurred in our country’s history and coincidentally resulted in a nation that was in turn blessed by God.
I disagree on that one. Offering a completely new food-type to the public that is untested reminds me of the 'safe and effective' lie that was thrown at us and which we couldn't confirm. Let's require testing of its safety and nutritional value before the unsuspecting public gets their fork ready.
Look at GMOS. They don’t have to be labeled, they’re in everything and all the studies show dire consequences for humanity. GRAS- something the government made up so the psychopaths can avoid doing actual safety testing.
100% testing should be done. And yes, the jab was a huge lie complete with propaganda that was designed to do what propaganda does. My concern is just that banning things is only increasing government control.
Gates is making money off his fake meat. Our government is buying (our tax dollars) and giving it to the food banks that give to the poor. It's a write off for Gates.
Problem is many have no clue what they are eating...gmo foods should be banned along with many ingredients. Look around...people are just looking sick!
Was so disappointed when I found out that those big beautiful papayas I fell in love with years ago in Hawaii are now GMO. They are not labeled, so people do not know.
Yep. You are correct. There is nothing - at all - conservative about this bill. When we all sit here and complain about the government "creating markets" and "creating monopolies" and "favoring some businesses over others," this is what it looks like in practice. He is essentially creating a monopoly for the beef producers in his state and enforcing it with threat of government violence. And how much do we want to bet that the beef producer lobby makes some campaign contributions?
Just because it's a product none of us here like (and everyone should be skeptical of), we cheer what is obviously the type of (D) and leftist policy that we yell about everywhere else. It's exactly the same thing. So, we shouldn't cheer. Slippery slopes are real and bigger government is always bigger government at someone else's expense.
I agree, to a point. I’m not a fan of more government regulations or involvement in general but I do think there is a time and place for that. To me it’s kind of more akin to banning the sale of human meat. We don’t object that some people might want to eat human meat so it should be ok to sell it. I also don’t think it should be called meat anyway. It’s not flesh. Maybe call it engineered protein or something. Like formula isn’t called breast milk, because it isn’t the same thing although they try to approximate it as much as they can.
There is a big difference b/w gov't regulation/involvement and straight-up authoritarian banning (esp. if the banning helps your financial or political allies). I think there were options other than basically banning competition, if safety was a genuine concern. Like state testing requirements; composition testing via an approved 3rd party; state warning label requirements as with cigars/cigarettes in some places and pretty much every electronic sold in CA; a luxury tax. I like the labeling/naming ideas.
I also think there's a pretty big moral/ethical difference b/w human meat and lab grown meat. And let's face it, our side is now getting dangerously close to assuming everything we don't know or like is somehow a "woke" or WEF-connected thing. That is not going to be good for the future. We need more innovation and more industry, not less.
Anything that Bill Gates is involved in is not for the good of people. I would expect that human meat would actually be better for than anything the has his hand in. On another note, you can still order it online and have it shipped to you… so are not without means to get it for yourself.
I’m just not sure how well those other options really work, if there is an issue with these products. Maybe ban them until they can prove long term safety. We really have no idea if these “foods” will have any long term negative effects or not at this point. I get that they’re not quite an equivalent of eating human meat but they’re also not your average run of the mill food products. It’s not like they’re banning chicken or tofu to favor beef producers.
And I’m all for innovation but Frankenfoods are not the kind of innovation I think we need most and they likely have more potential to cause harm than others. I would like to see more innovations in agriculture than see engineered artificial food.
I guess at the end of the day, it's an issue of principle for me. I can't get behind authoritarian policies when it comes to products that just haven't proven to be harmful. I also note, they haven't banned the C19 shots, which are proven harmful. Why not take the same stance here and simply advise against the product if they feel it might be dangerous?
Again, I am not a fan of these products, but IMO authoritarianism always leads to unintended problems and runs counter to my overall stance of small, limited gov't (even though I am also guilty of cheering on some authoritarian things at times...).
Thanks for the conversation. I appreciate that you challenge some things and make me think them through.
I completely get that, and tend to want to hold to principles in general too. However, I can also see that there are times when it might be better not to hold fast to a principle for the sake of it. There is probably not going to be a case where you can hold to a principle 100% so there are likely to be points where you are going to decide to draw the line. You’re not comfortable with this particular line and I respect that. I guess we all have different parameters and limits for these kinds of things.
They can only do it to you if you are selling a fake product that hurts the consumer, like gmo seeds. We have all kinds of consumer protection laws. Most recently they failed us selling fake shots to nearly every government in the world. So, I’m glad desantis and Florida are thinking beyond the box and banning the fake stuff.
Now, if they will label it as what it is, composting food stuffs and bugs for people who want meat but won’t eat it due to mental challenges, then we can have another go round I guess.
Pigs have used mRNA "vaccines" for several years now. Have you ever seen any pork labeled to show mRNA is in it? Are you aware that lawsuits have been filed to force this disclosure, which has faced deep pocketed opposition?
FDA will ban natural substances that are healthy if it threatens their owners' profits. Their name is very revealing - Food & Drug Administration - administration of drugs into you...
I was raised with livestock being a part of my childhood. Dairy cattle, hogs, chickens, sheep, and goats. The only mRNA vaccines I was aware of were one they used on poultry and the trials did not go well and they quit using the technology because the animals in the trial group had a very high mortality rate. Hogs go to market many days after chickens do so it is surprising to me to hear that they are using them on hogs (but really is anything surprising these days!!!). But when the tech came out for humans I was like no way Jose! My only statement is that I don’t want the government dictating more things. This is how we got vaccine mandates-the government making choices for us.
I agree with his banning. He is keeping garbage out of our state. If it was healthy and good for you, it would be a different story. If you open the door to this garbage, it will come in one way or another. They will price it so low that those in lower income will buy it regardless of labels…it is another way of harming those less fortunate. If you want to get it, you can still order it online and ship to you.
This reply does not appear to be showing up but I think it was an intelligent response and came through my email. I will leave it anonymous in case the commenter decided to not post it after all: In fact, off the top of my head other options that would have been less draconian and more effective: - requiring a strict set of tests with evidence of safety, purity, and chemical composition provided to the state of FL every year (which would allow this product to be used to 'out' any hidden agenda); - labeling requirements or regulations (e.g., can't call it "beef" in FL, maybe even ridiculous warning labels like cigars have); - a luxury tax that would obviously be paid primarily by limousine liberals. Lots of other less authoritarian options were available to address concerns.
Would everybody, including Jeff, please stop putting apostrophes where they don't belong (eg NDAs, 1970s, bananas, etc). Making a world plural NEVER involves an apostrophe, which is used to denote possession. (as in "an NDA's wording; the wording belongs to the NDA). Please and thank you. So. Acronyms, year groupings, nouns ... simply add the 's' (except for nouns that have alternate spellings for plural forms as in 'families').
Or, on my phone, when I type "Well," it will automatically correct to "we'll." And I always say, out loud (as if it can hear me), "No. I mean to use 'well.'"
Back in my admin days, I could always tell (and still can!) whether someone wrote a memo/letter/email and just sent/posted it, used SpellCheck, or actually proofread their work!
That always annoys me too! I gloss over Jeff’s typos because I know he has a limited time to write and proofread but see these kinds of errors all over the place and it drives me nuts 😩 (and not nut’s 😆)
Yeah, proofreading's a must (apostrophe here because it's a contraction of "proofreading is"... same as "it's). The crazy thing about "it's" is that when that little word is meant as possessive, we drop the comma. English is complicated!
Seeing “it’s” and “its” used incorrectly is one of my top language pet peeves. Another is seeing “lead” (rhymes with fed) used as the past tense of the verb “lead” (rhymes with feed), instead of the correct “led”. Feed/fed, bleed/bled, lead/led. But then there’s read/read (not red). Ah, English!
THANK YOU!! This punctuation error makes my eyes hurt! Unfortunately, spelling, grammar, and punctuation errors leap off the page, almost like grains of sand irritating my eyes and brain.
On the flip side, if someone who does well at math looked over my math scribblings (plural, just add the "s"), I am sure they (the scribblings) would burn out his/her retinas. 😂🤣
Arithmetic is about the extent of my math skills, decades after having had to do algebra and worse!
But you're right about how writing errors "leap off the page"! I do make these sorts of comments/corrections from time to time, and always get a few deriding me for being so picky or what have you. I just shrug, because they don't have a clue. Actually, it's as if a musician just randomly dropped the rules of musical notation yet still expected others to accurately reproduce the sound he had intended.
Trump...claiming he can't testify because of the gag order. That's a gem. No more fake meat in Florida? Gates isn't a happy camper. And that is great news.
Cohen is probably one of hundreds of DT lawyers. Media always says “Trump’s Lawyer”. Well, DT has an army of them and so it’s not unusual to have a few weirdo employees when you run massive businesses.
The same thing is happening today with regard to Trump Media's auditor being fined by the SEC.
Edit - headlines written to imply Trump media is the reason for the fine, when they are one of many firms audited by BF Borgers. Down in the body of the articles they will write that there is no allegation of wrongdoing against DJT media or Truth Social. But the headline is "Trump Media’s accounting firm charged with ‘massive fraud’".
This is the way, actually. Soft secession. The only hitch is Desantis needs more time and he's done in 2026. Florida needs to make him emporer of the Republic of Florida.
I’m sure Representative Johnson would sound the alarm if too many people moved to Florida. After all, with the weight of so many people, it could snap off and tumble into the ocean.
Flashback: Rep. Hank Johnson (D-Ga.) was afraid that the U.S. Territory of Guam would "tip over and capsize" due to overpopulation. (Johnson expressed his worries during a House Armed Services Committee.)
Bragg is as well versed at justice as he is at the concept of fasting. The trainwreck of scum witnesses called by the Prostitution are proof positive that the MAIN INTENT of this case IS Election Interference (keeping Trump gagged and in court) and to feed Leftist Media and Voters with fuel for their deranged hate so they do ALL they can to take the 2024 Election on behalf of JB and Dems
I truly think that they thought they were in a win-win situation. Even if they lose, they’ve kept PDJT off the campaign trail. They *weren’t* counting on the people actually following the trial and recognizing the circus / political lawfare that it is.
I've previously questioned the existence of the so-called "variants" as being just more psyops. How can there be variants of a laboratory created, synthetic "pathogen" that is replication defective? Somebody answer me that. Dr. David Martin clearly documented that fact. I postulated that the so-called variants are all laboratory created - just like the original - and are being manually dispersed. My guess is that this is easily accomplished via chemtrail spraying. After all, we are no more than a crop to the elite.
The Japanese have figured it out...........................................
JAPANESE SCIENTISTS FIND INDISPUTABLE EVIDENCE THAT ALL COVID VARIANTS ARE MAN-MADE
A stunning Japanese study that has evolved from preprint to peer-reviewed publication suggests that all COVID-19 variants were engineered in biolabs and intentionally released upon humanity. First released in August 2023, the study, conducted by renowned Japanese virologists Professors Atsushi Tanaka and Takayuki Miyazawa of Osaka Medical University and Kyoto University, affirms that the push to keep COVID around is part of a nefarious deep state scheme to remove our individual freedoms and control us.
Interesting, thank you. That explains a lot about this last full year to date. From my first cold in 8 years to a sore throat, to a mild case of shingles, to three more flu/colds to now something female related going on (just tested, non cancerous). It’s been crazy! The sore throat was right after my woke, likely jabbed nephew visited, it was all downhill from there. My husband passed on all those weird cold/flu things. Two business (two flights) trips, and one brew pub evening. Our CPA was there, found out later he was sick too.
Shedding perhaps, chemtrails, likely, they crisscross our skies on a regular basis.
It doesn't seem too implausible that even a lab-created pathogen could mutate once in the wild. That said, the study in the linked article makes a strong argument that at least some variants also came from a lab... most likely it's a mixture of both.
I love living in the United State of Florida ❤️Ending the week on a positive note is awesome. It is also inspiring to see so many college students rising up and showing their patriotism 🇺🇸 Be encouraged! Thank you Jeff.
I'm definitely NOT a Trump guy anymore...but it's hard to argue he isn't being intentionally targeted. It's weaponizing the justice system which is something that is wrong and in a perfect world would blocked.
However, if Trump gets indicted for tearing off the mattress tags in 1998 Hunter deserves a few years in the pen for lying on his 4473 forms and cavorting around with Russian hookers.
Trump didn't have his pants at his ankles while he plays the piano with his ween.
Zelensky has other disgusting vids where he gay dances, thrusting other men while pumping his junk into the camera.
Meanwhile he skims US taxpayer cash for his $75M mansion and other goodies while he sends White Christian men to their deaths by the hundreds of thousands.
There you go again, Benji. Banging on that same drum. He also said that that people could MAKE THEIR OWN CHOICE. He gave them the choice. Remember when he got the virus? He advertised that he was given HCQ and in a matter of 2 or 3 days he was recovered? He didn’t mandate the shots; Biden’s administration did.
"The pandemic no longer controls our lives. The vaccines that saved us from Covid are now being used to beat cancer-turning setback into comeback! You're welcome, joe, Nine month approval time vs 12 years it would have taken you!"
Come on. What’s your point with this blog’s title? And I must ask you which of any person running for any office doesn’t say something that some rival or the media or - yes, even blogs like this - will run with. I am more interested results than words. I don’t care about his hair; I don’t care about his mean tweets; I don’t care about his name-calling; I don’t care about locker room talk: You get the picture.
That’s a good reason. I couldn’t find the date on this though. When did he say this? Recently or when he was still president? Does he still feel this way? If so,that’s concerning for sure…
We recently went on a rant against RFK Jr. being an "anti-vaxxer". He's holding on tight to the miracle vax he feels responsible for. We should all be concerned that he didn't pardon Julian Assange. Both of those things are concerning.
I refused to get Trump's shot and I refused to get Biden's. It's probably one of the worst medical experiments in human history that people in power willingly pushed and people willingly got and castigated their neighbors for not getting.
During allergy season I always make sure my neighbors take allergy meds so mine works.
I'm not agonizing about voting, because I'm not at all sure we will be allowed to vote, or if we are, that the duly elected candidate will actually become president. Or, if the duly elected candidate is Trump, that he won't be assassinated. It appears that Disease X might be on the way, necessitating lockdowns, more mail-in ballots and all that nonsense.
I used to have a trump flag..I got super disillusioned with all the evidence coming out and showing how bad the shots are and trump still supports them.
Come on dude, you're supposed to be better than this.
I hear ya. There is NO WAY I will vote for Biden. I was a democrat but I feel politically marooned since 2021. Bidens sinister threats aimed at those of us who refused the shots and his mandates sealed the deal. I will never forget nor forgive.
I've sent three emails to my local GOP about this website and what their fractal technology could do to clean up voter rolls and also ensure votes don't come from illegal addresses. Response: crickets.
Where's Jeff begging? Any donations are for a informative blog from a expert covid-lawyer's perspective, free for 6 of 7 days a week.
Not comparable to the billions stolen from taxpayers to give to the forever leeching nation of Israel, where a desperate Nuttyahoo (like Biden) needs a war to distract from his personal corruption.
Well, not in perfect world would have been blocked. In the USA with our constitution and rule of law, should have never happened. You are definitely thinking in the right direction.
We have been through our first winter. We live on the side of a hill at the base of the Sapphire mountains. The Bitterroot Valley is considered the “pineapple belt “ of Montana. We have a good solid four seasons. My husband and I grew up in Ohio in the 70s-the 90s. So we’re kind of used to cold snowy winters. But after living in gloomy Washington state, even the winters here are brighter, sunnier. Even though it’s cold. The snow started early last October. Locals said it wasn’t normal. We had a mild November and then in December it got cold. We didn’t see much snow after the freak storm in October until January. Then from January till mid March we had lots of snow. The ground was covered almost that whole time. In February we had a big cold snap where it got down to 25 below zero for a week. Locals say it needed to stay that cold for at least 2 weeks. So apparently that’s normal. We have a tractor, so my husband was able to keep driveway clear. We’re in our 50s and we thought it wasn’t that bad. All the snow in the mountains and everywhere was really beautiful. From what I hear, other parts of the state are colder and much drier. We chose the Bitterroot Valley because it wasn’t as dry or cold.
Even tho we live in commiefornia I am super happy to have met and heard of several families who have oulled their kids out of the indoctrination schools and moved to either homeschool or go Christian, classical teaching! ❤️ We are raising up good Christian leaders for the future.
I have a teacher in the family, she's already totally, supremely uninformed, yet stridently adamant in her viewpoints. Can't defend any of them, so any discussion is terminated with a hyperventilating red faced 'I don't want to talk about politics' reply. Can't ask if she's had the DEI training, wouldn't surprise me that if she has, she took the bait hook, line and sinker. So now fearing if Trump loses she has to fear us going "bloodbath" at a subsequent family gathering, she'll also have to condemn us and the family for the horrible crime of being white.
The globalists have weaponized Islam as they have weaponized postmodernism to achieve their goals. Those shots of kids answering the Muslim call to prayer are just flabberghasting. They desperately want us not to see what the actual forces and interests that are at work and instead focus on one side or the other, the binary. All organizational structures, including nations, really have to be re-evaluated as to that they actually are now, as opposed to how we have been conditioned to think of them.
“At one moment I might speak concerning a nation or concerning a kingdom to uproot, to tear down, or to make it perish; but if that nation against which I have spoken turns from its evil, I will relent concerning the calamity I planned to do against it. Or at another moment I might speak concerning a nation or concerning a kingdom to build up or to plant it; but if it does evil in My sight by not listening to My voice, then I will relent concerning the good which I promised, to do good to it.” — Jeremiah 18:7-10 LSB
God bless you, Janice, for providing daily Scripture, God’s inspired and authoritative Word, the source of all Truth and the only infallible guide for the Christian faith. It’s the first thing I look for in the comments! ❤️
Same! And often times will encourage me to open my Bible and reread the passage again in whole context. Thank you
Interesting passage. So here God is saying if a nation does evil, God reserves the right to NOT do good to it even though He made a promise that He would.
Two things: I believe the Bible teaches that all the promises to ancient Israel were fulfilled by God. But, if you are dispensationalist and you don't believe that, and you believe that there is some future fulfillment, then it could be argued that those promises will not be honored by God because Israel broke Faith many times in the past so we should not be looking for any fulfillment of past promises in the future. Something to think about
I disagree. In God’s eyes, Israel is not just another nation. The fact that the dry bones Ezekiel prophesied about came back together in 1948 and today there is again a nation called Israel is proof of that. The apostle Paul said the promises of God to Israel are irrevocable; even if presently the Jews are enemies to Christians in regards to the gospel, they are ‘beloved’ in regards to the election of their forefathers.
Romans 11:28-29
28 As regards the gospel they are enemies of God, for your sake; but as regards election they are beloved for the sake of their forefathers. 29 For the gifts and the call of God are irrevocable.
Thank you, Willing Spirit. I don’t know if it is because of how people have been taught, or because they simply hate Israel. But the plain Word tells us that His thoughts towards Israel are for their good. That He loves them AND us with an everlasting love. We have trouble comprehending that love.
Not so. I was dispensationalist for 25+ years as that's the default view taught in America in the 20th and 21st century (it's most definitely dying now especially with the Millenial and Zoomer Christians). Almost all your favorite teachers on the radio and TV are dispensationalist so that's the only side you get when in reality this view never existed until Clarence Darby in the mid 1800's and then popularized by the Scofield reference Bible at the turn of the century (that's a very interesting story btw).
Labeling people as dispensationalist and thinking that dismisses them as serious Bible scholars is a dangerous error.
Apparently you were hurt and I’m sorry for that.
I honestly don’t understand all of what is claimed about ‘dispensationalism’. I’m not here to defend any ‘isms’. I don’t follow any man’s programs. Apparently there is a great deal of bias against it.
This must all be very confusing for nonbelievers.
I began reading through the Bible yearly with ‘The One Year Bible’ in 1985 and after continued since then. These days I’m following a daily reading podcast.
This is where my understanding has been formed.
I know that God loves Israel with an undying love. The Bible tells me so.
There is truth in saying that God loves Israel with an undying love.
The issue is in conflating the country that is called Israel with the Israel of the Bible.
100%, correct. Spiritual Israel vs. results of the Balfour Accord. 2 completely different things.
Later Jay
God loves Hamas, too. Everyone, in fact.
Everyone that accepts the sacrifice of His Son.
He does love every single person, and wishes them to be reconciled to Him.
However, it is clear that there is only one way to do that.
"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." - John 14:6
And therein lies the rub and the reason the Marxists/Satanists hate and fear Christianity.
What happens to those who just admit that they don't know?
Or believe differently?
Good point, but not agreed to by the "christians", most of whom, as you see below, think all non-christians are condemned to hellfire...
They seem to be ok with Israel murdering over 30,000 Gazans, mostly innocent women and kids... in response to an attack by Hamas (that Israel knew well in advance was coming and did nothing to stop it)... that killed around 1,200 jews. Appalling? Sure, both sides.
Now you see why I wish these goofy hypocrites would discuss their mythologies elsewhere... ??
I can understand your frustration. Christians, if any are involved in politics, have been slow to apply their beliefs, ethics, and Biblical principles to the sordid business of politics. Churches can be sordid themselves, too, so there's that. Then you have all the bizarre eschatological theories, around which some have built their entire religion.
In college I shut all of this out and read the Bible to see if there is anything to Christianity at all, which I seriously doubted. I found out the problems lie in ourselves, not in God. Yes, people were being ridiculous, and about so many vitally important things. But that doesn't mean I would have to be that way. I could get it back on track. Such is the intemperate, idealistic optimism of the young. Of course no one can live up to their own standards, let alone the high standards set by a perfect God. We all fail in different ways, but we do fail. But God can work with that. His plan is perfect, and it requires no striving or putting together a puzzle where most of the pieces are missing. God freely gives new life, mercy, and forgiveness to all who accept it as a gift made available through the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.
Some people don't like the fact that there's only one way to God, but seriously no one needs more than that. If a cafeteria-style assortment of religions and gods were available for us all to choose from, we then become our own gods -- and of course mess everything up again and wind up bombing each other, killing, stealing, etc.
The point I make is that there ARE a cafeteria-style assortment of religions and gods that are available for us all to choose from... not only the usual suspects, judaism, christianity, islam (each of which has several to MANY significant variations within, different sects, etc), buddhism, hinduism... native American tribal mythology, shintoism... on and on...
YOU seem to have the similar arrogance (sorry, it IS arrogance) to claim that it is a FACT that there is only one way to "God"... YOUR way. Do all of the rest of the many billions of humans burn in hellfire? Do you realize that the "bible" which you follow (his "plan"?), who knows which of MANY versions you use... has been revised again and again, books added and deleted and the translations of the original writings that became the "bible"... have been massively corrupted for the purpose of power and control over the "sheep"?
Read Biglino's "The Naked Bible"... he translates those original writings... and I strongly assume... that even if you deign to read it... you will deny it any credibility whatsoever... and cling with great fervor and anger... to the mythology that YOU have chosen... and steadfastly deny and condemn all others.... just like THEY do to YOURS... and as you say... "of course mess everything up again and wind up bombing each other, killing, etc..."
Are we still pals? 😉 💕
Please point out where I said anything to the contrary.
Simple, isn't it? Yet a "red pill" so hard to swallow for those who have spent their entire lives in the dispensational matrix.
It is the people and the Land that have His everlasting Covenant. Not their government.
Indeed. Humans are often entranced by buzzwords and slaves to seemingly magic syllables. A disturbing trait. Cf. "safe and effective." Taking the word for reality.
Well we'll agree to disagree about the modern state of Israel. Other than that and eschatology we probably agree on everything else.
On the contrary, dispensationalists are VERY serious Bible scholars when it comes to interpreting the Word within the framework of their dispensational assumptions. For those who have spent their whole lives in that framework of the dispensational matrix, it is a very hard thing indeed for them to swallow the red pill. Every time I present a substantive statement to the contrary, no one ever interacts with my position in any substantive manner. That tells me they do not have a Biblically based rational why my position is wrong, only that they prefer to remain in the matrix because that is simply what they want. The disingenuous weak reed of "Apparently you were hurt..." is not a valid argument.
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The church became accustomed to speeches from the holy men on Sundays and a sprinkling of entertainment. It was all about education. Members stuffed their minds with knowledge gleaned from speakers, books, and footnotes. That model has failed because Christianity is trying to relegate itself to the status of a Western religion. Perhaps one day the churches will be like the originals and not lecture halls. There are exceptions, I know.
Agreed.
I’m not at all relating to your imagining that I’m in some matrix and need some red pills.
“In Christ alone, my hope is found…here in the love of Christ, I stand.
Maybe you have a matrix problem. I’m free in Jesus.
There is a huge difference between the Jews and the Zionists. The latter are demonic, IMHO.
It depends very much what you mean by "Zionists", because it seems everyone has their own definition of what that word means.
For instance: according to Hamas, if you think Israel should be allowed to continue existing and not be wiped off the map, you are a "Zionist".
By Zionists, you are referring to the Khazarians?
You're lost, Spirit.
Not lost, just mislead.
Some of the best people I know are on that side excursion. It's familiar enough that I've heard everything that could be said. It has seemed to me at times that the focus is more on Israel and Scofield's tale about the end times than on other, more useful lines of inquiry.
Exactly, some great brothers and sisters in Christ. But their vision in this particular regard is very truncated and captured by the decades long matrix of the "end times" narrative. Taking that red pill is exceedingly difficult to the mind. When I began my journey out of that matrix over 40 years ago, I ended up having to take a number red pills to complete the journey... which I suppose I'm still on. In the end, the whole end times narrative is a distraction from Biblical Christianity and divisive of the central tenets of the faith, sidelining the Church as a force in the culture and society. I suppose that is the whole point.
I believe there will be and is a slow awakening going on in the church as a result of the disintegration of our culture. As society deteriorates, people are going to realize that the end times narrative does not offer any real solution to what is happening, not even the "any day now" rapture escape. Contrary to that, Paul said of Christ's kingdom in 1 Cor 15, "25 For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy that will be destroyed is death." Having ascended to the throne, Christ is ruling and reigning now through His body on earth as we are empowered by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.
I completely agree. It seems that Scofieldism was embraced widely in WW2 as people tried to make sense of everything and fear abounded. I was shown a chart of the "end times" that looks like a schematic of an internal combustion engine. The good news is simple enough for everyone to understand. I don't think we are supposed to piece together bits and pieces of the Bible to figure out what Jesus said is unknown. Matt. 24:36. We are about to see in the church a "great awakening" like we are seeing in the entire country. Many churches won't survive it unless they are willing to let go of the cold ashes of their traditions and let God light his fire in them.
You are completely mischaracterizing Christians, who are looking at the signs of the times and are in hopeful expectation of the return of Christ.
Jesus told us what signs to look for. Scripture instructs us to always be ready.
That doesn’t mean we don’t live responsible lives and participate in the well being of our communities. To say that we don’t work to have the Church be a force in the culture and society is wrong and unfair to millions of us.
Do you even believe there’s going to be a second return of Christ, or do you think that’s already fulfilled too?
You look demonic, Chucky. Might want to look into an exorcism.
And you look retarded, Spirit. Might want to look into getting a clue.
Clearly demonic
Clearly idiotic.
Ah yes. Dispensationalism. Also Replacement Theology. The ‘church’ is filled with many false doctrines and pagan practices.
I pray my children’s eyes open to the Truth that can only be found in His Word.
Best to check for a log in one's eye before trying to remove the mote from your brother's eye.
Hmmm…..that’s interesting since you and Aloha just did that exact thing. Exactly that.
I understand your perspective on that.
I am aligned with your comment in that dispensationalism appears by design to make chopped liver out of Scripture. That is, dispensationalism is a kind of Scriptural Woke before the term was even known or thought of. Further more, my view is that Scofield with purpose was 'an operation' designed to weaken whatever was left of traditional Christian Faith doctrine by fracturing the continuity of Scripture. In some circles, the program was and still remains this, liquidate all Christian practice by any means possible.
Also, I looked into Scofield and the New York faux-Semitic lawyer Untermeyer. Regarding this, here is another bizarre story of a man (Scofield) who comes out of nowhere, appears to have no visible means of support yet goes everywhere ... and somehow manages to get published in the prestigious Cambridge Press instantly no problems. It the kind of story I have seen before quite a few times, that of a No Where Man who suddenly like magic appears out of No Where and lands feet first in the pages of history, like certain political figures who get paid some $400,000 a year but end up owning multi-million dollar mansions on little islands and manage some how to have net worths in the millions. My! How do such things happen. How does that little trick work?
Advertising tricks do not fare well on me. For example, drawing a thread to doing well with women to a certain product be hawked never did overly impress me. Similarly, drawing Biblical threads to a certain state run by people of largely non-Semitic but instead Turkomen origins who commit large scale genocide and milk the US Treasury dry using a lobby which should by all rights be required to register as 'foreign agent', this also does not overly impress me. Nor does blind support of anything.
Well said. The modern state of Israel was funded by the Rothschilds. The NWO wants to rein from Jerusalem. The KJV is hard to read, and that's probably driven some people to the Scofield footnotes to figure out what it means.
yes, our globalist enemies are HQ d in Israel AND Ukraine.
Our government has thrown in with the global renegades who want us to eat crickets, so include Washington D.C. in that.
And Switzerland.
Try the New King James or the 21st Century King James for readability.
I started out with the RSV, then went to the NIV, and now I use the NLT. But they're all good!
Reality! This has been the program to side-line and destroy Christianity since the founding of this country. We are now at the end game point where push comes to shove.
What hypocrisy.
Two thousand two hundred American soldiers were killed at Pearl Harbor, we went and killed 3.5 million Japanese, including 100,000 in one night. 2,800 Americans on September 11. We went and killed 400,000 people in Afghanistan and Iraq. We were not accused of genocide.
Hypocrisy? Really? We may not have been accused of genocide but a rose by any other name is still a rose.
And yet you have never accused the US of genocide.
Below is my comment from April 26. Referencing WWII and subsequent wars, what I described is genocide. Furthermore, I have repeatedly stated that the plandemic was and is a military campaign of the USG DoD of democide/genocide of America and the rest of the West.......................
Politico Phil
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SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY:
And here is the crux of the whole matter which Childers only touched on. I don't have the bandwidth to fully address this but I do recognize the problem. Sovereign immunity means there is NO ACCOUNTABILITY for the actions of our top leadership, particularly the POTUS. This means there is NO LAW that governs their behavior.
The solution to this conundrum provided by the writers of the Constitution was the Senate who represented the will of the separate individual sovereign States. This check was done away with in 1913 by the Seventeenth Amendment which provided for the direct election of Senators just like the rest of Congress. Coincidentally, this was the same year the Federal Reserve was established which removed the people's check on Federal spending power. Not a coincidence!
The last time the nation addressed the accountability of Government to a higher power or sovereign was the Declaration of Independence which clearly stated that the State is subject to the Creator of the universe and His Law. Upon this basis, the founding fathers based their right to reject the rule of a despotic government and declare their compact with that government null and void. The failing of the Constitution was not addressing this and providing no mechanism for holding the Fed Gov't accountable to God's Law.
Thus we find ourselves at the point where the "sovereign" USG can bomb into extinction entire civilian populations in WWII, which we did in both Japan and Europe and in nearly every subsequent war they got us involved in, without any repercussions. And now we find ourselves the object of a war being waged upon the American people by the Dept of Defense who are killing us through a medical intervention all enabled and justified under Military Law.
This is the meaning of Sovereign Immunity. There is NO restraint upon the actions of the USG either abroad or at home. Nor is there any possibility of reversing the trends Claude A.I. described.
This is also why our Marxist regime is beginning a narrative to pigeon-hole Christian Nationalism, and all Christianity, as a terrorist threat. This is the reason the Romans crucified Jesus. Jesus said to give unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and to give unto God that which is God's. In Roman law, Caesar own everything and as such Caesar was god. What Jesus said was sedition and treason. And the state killed Him for it.
Im not taking the side of the government in Israel. I have stated in almost all the comments I have made. His Covenant is with the People and the Land.
And if we are grafted into that Olive Tree, we inherit the promises both good and bad. But if we boast against the branches of that tree into which we have been grafted? One of those promises is that He can cut us off.
The People and the Land.
Not the government.
I agree with what you posted.
His divorced Israel for a time, then went back to calling her His Beloved.
When big scriptural ideas make me scratch my
head, I try taking it down to a far smaller bite.
In this case, I think if it as a relatively happily married couple or a parent/child relationship. You may have a huge disagreement or grievance but at the end of the day (or week, LOL!) you come back together.
In your married couple instance, suppose one party had already remarried. That's what ancient Israel did. They were worshipping Baal, and whatever other diety-of-the-month they could find in Canaan.
The book of Hosea tells of the accounts of an adulterous wife (Israel) and a faithful husband (God) and all through Hosea's wife a-whoring ways, he remains married to her under God's guidance.
God has not forsaken Israel, no matter what gods they've chosen to follow. God is faithful to His word, His ways and will NEVER forsake her.
As Jeremiah 31:35-36 states, "Thus says the LORD, who gives the sun for light by day, who sets in order the moon and stars for light by night, who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar—the LORD of Hosts is His name: 36“Only if this fixed order departed from My presence,
declares the LORD, would Israel’s descendants ever cease
to be a nation before Me.”
I understand what you're saying. Technically, Israel forsake God. I agree that he never gives up on anyone.
I think many are confusing people's hate for Israel as hate for their government. It has nothing to do with their peoples, but rather their murderous government.
although it is really up to the Israelis to protest their evil government
And what about our murderous government?
What about it? I'm not a fan of our murderous gov either.... Or any other for that matter.
The American govt has a historical record of oppressing, alienating, and murdering entire groups of people who don’t align with ‘her views.’ When will boomers realize that WE are the bad guys in all scenarios? It’s like they don’t even see the truth right in front of them!
As a Boomer, I endorse your comment.
I don’t consider you a Boomer, Phil. You may qualify with your birthdate, but your discernment sets you apart.
I know, it is frustrating.....sigh. Since Mao, the US by far and away is the global leader in death, injury, and displacement of others.
Sadly true. Sadly because I'm an American.
as it is up to us! As the Students are doing ;)
If they were really students. But most are not. Most are paid actors. Paid to stir up chaos all summer.
Like Aloha, I grew up in dispensational churches. That's how I was taught. And "simply hating Israel" was something I was never exposed to. Like most people of my generation, I had nothing but sympathy for Israel. Your either/or is a non-starter. I came to a fuller understanding of God's covenant through an intensive self-study of His entire Word by self-consciously approaching the Word without any preconceived ideas relying only on the promise that if asked the Holy Spirit will open the Word to you. When I was finished, I then examined everything I had been taught and believed in light of what I had learned with only the guidance of the Holy Spirit. I had to swallow a number of "red pills". It was only later that I learned of the "short" history of dispensational theology.
If you want to understand His love, understand His covenant. Jesus and Paul spent a great deal of effort explaining this.
Romans 11 Paul is speaking of ethnic Israel, not Israel as a nation. This is clear from the context and other writings of Paul.
Regarding Ezekiel 38, your interpretation is the dispensational one, a view that was not held until fairly recently by the church.
When I became a Christian in 1990 I was told by dispensationalist teachers that the generation following Israel's rebirth would usher in the rapture. I was told a generation is about 40-45 years old. Well, that would put it about 1995 and here we are 76 years post 1948.
What I think we can agree on is that people like Mike Johnson making United States foreign policy decisions based on his dispensationalist end times views is absolutely insane and quite frankly un-American.
It is the people, yes.
And yes, it is the land.
They are inextricably linked.
The Land received only sprinkles of rain for 1800 years. Even Mark Twain wrote about it in ‘Innocents Abroad’.
Twain described Israel as a “…desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds—a silent mournful expanse… We never saw a human being on the whole route… There was hardly a tree or a shrub anywhere. Even the olive and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil, had almost deserted the country.”
But as the people began to trickle back in, the rains started falling, gently at first, and as the people tended the Land, it blossomed and bloomed and they now feed as many people in the world as the US .
You cannot unlink the importance of the Land AND the People from His promises to both.
Most people have no idea the TRILLIONS of dollars we send to most nations around the world. Nor do they realize the size of Israel is smaller than NJ, surrounded by a SEAL of Arabs who HATE Israel. At one point, Israel is only 8 (EIGHT!!!) miles wide!!! Surrounded by enemies who are constantly attacking her.
Two thousand two hundred American soldiers were killed at Pearl Harbor, we went and killed 3.5 million Japanese, including 100,000 in one night. 2,800 Americans on September 11. We went and killed 400,000 people in Afghanistan and Iraq. We were not accused of genocide.
Yet, Americans are angry because we send money to protect the only truly free nation in the ME? Because we don’t like their government? And we accuse their government of being corrupt, when we have actual DEMONS running our nation?
And the amount of ‘aid’ we send Israel is a drop in the bucket of what we send the terrorist networks Hamas , Hezbollah, Iran, Iraq and yes…..even the oil-rich nations of the UAE! Obama started ISIS…….
The vast majority of foreign aid to Israel comes right back to the United States. RE: military aid, Israel is oft called the largest American aircraft carrier in the Middle east.
Yes, military aid goes in the pockets of the rich corporations who make bombs, planes, tanks, guns, drones, missiles, etc. The US government takes it from taxpayers and splits it up with rich corporations and foreign nations. And it's really not money, because we have none. It's just hot-off-the-press currency not backed by anything.
If the modern Israel state is blessed by God and raking in the cash growing food (and they are very successful in the tech industry), then why do they need the broke United States to buy their weapons? Would they be more geared toward peace if we weren't loading their guns for them? I don't believe we do it for Israel; we do it for the arms dealers who know how to lobby (pay off) Congress.
Who knows? Can we trust our gvt anymore in what they are really doing vs what they tell us?🤷
Not even a little bit.
Why does ANY nation need our help?
But if ANY nation deserves it, Israel does. The people gives the world far more in return than any nation has ever given them.
The neediest nation I know of and the most deserving is the United States. Do you know the U.S. has people living on the streets, cities overrun with crime and drugs, senior citizens who can't afford food and medicine, and children who are being trafficked? On top of that, the president is senile, the government is crooked, and doctors are giving lethal injections without telling their patients what's in them.
Flipping the question: if you were Israel already making lots of money, would you still say no to the US offering to provide you with weapons for free?
If Israel were I, then yes, I wouldn't take them. But if I am Israel rather than being myself, I'd be wanting to use OPM (other peoples' money) so I could keep mine. You know, the love of money really is the root of all evil.
America has much to answer for. The lunatic running this country for the past 50 years, are just that lunatics.
END ALL FOREIGN AID, not just to Israel. Good?
Israel is still a desert. Rainfall patterns didn't change. The Jews (credit to them) drained the swamps, instilled irrigation, etc. which allowed for it's agriculture. Similiar to CA.
The land promises to Israel were all fulfilled at the peak of Joshua's reign.
You need to do some more research, Aloha. It barely rained there for 1800 years. But the rain returned, whether you want to believe it or not.
Yes, there is still much to do, but the God of Israel has helped His people, Israel, to turn the Land, Israel, into a Land where food aplenty is growing. That was NOT happening until the People came back and were reunited with the Land.
And I very much doubt you know much of anything about their government. The Knesset is one of the hardest governments on the planet to understand. I have studied it, and still scratch my head.
But then I look at our government, which seems to be THE most corrupt on the planet……..and want to gag.
I think Replacement Theology has a hold on a lot of people, causing them to want to turn on Israel. And that is a huge mistake.
And then they ripped out the Palestinians' thousand year old olive groves and planted pine forests in the middle of the desert.
I'm not sure we should send military aid overseas. I wouldn't object to humanitarian aid to Israel if needed, but it wouldn't be because there was also an ancient people with the same name as today's country.
Interesting points, CStone.
Thanks for sharing all that. I do believe that there should be a Jewish homeland. Poor people have been like nomads forever. Perhaps that is why they don't have strong national sentiments or why they have too much liberal say in domestic politics? Historical memories shape the ideas of people for centuries, even millenia.
What is interesting about Islamic Palestinians is that unlike Christians in countries where there is conflict against them, they do not give an inch. They rather die than submit. On the other hand, Palestinian Christians, ancient people there from the time of Jesus, have largely emigrated. The same with ethnic Christians in Turkey, Egypt, and other countries.
History is a fascinatingfactor in sociology. That is why I love RFKJR. He is well studied, a rarity in the American landscape.
If you take into account the fact that there are no ethnic Jews, Israel's quest for additional land doesn't appear to be vindication of any right. The ancient Jews intermarried of their own choice, and against God's orders. They lost their status as a religion and as a nation, though they don't actually acknowledge this.
This interview with Megan Basham on the war on Christianity is worth watching. I’ll find a different link if this is paywalled. https://tuckercarlson.com/uncensored-megan-basham/
And this one with a minister in ID
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-tucker-carlson-podcast/id1719657632?i=1000652669741
Saw that - was excellent.
I believe this generation will usher in end times, though I don’t believe in the rapture. A generation is a changing thing. In Methuselah’s time it was obviously vastly different than now. In the USA, it’s now something like 72.5 years, down from 74ish (thanks to covid vaccines, no doubt). Ed Dowd can give the exact numbers.
In other countries, the generation is slightly different. Which is God going by? I’m guessing Israel’s but in any case, the dry bones of Ezekiel have been put together May of 1948, and we are 76 years in.
I personally compare Trump to the biblical Cyrus and tend to think something huge may happen (albeit quietly or…not) May 18, and there will be hints on the Jewish calendar. I KNOW something big will occur in November. Pay attention to the Jewish calendar.
And consider that God maybe is not going to suck us up like a Hoover, and that a NEW earth will become our dwelling place— with the
lion and the lamb lying down together.
As David Hocking once commented regarding pre tribulation rapture;
"If I'm wrong I'll change my mind".
Time will tell. What is prophesied by God will take place.
I suppose you might as well just throw out all the books of the Old Testament prophecies as you don’t believe they apply any longer.
I believe almost all of them were already fulfilled. Again, my view might seem strange or foreign but these are what Christians the world over believed for 1900 years and outside of the US still do.
How do you read the words of Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jeremiah, Zechariah, Joel, Amos, etc. and see them as fulfilled? That doesn’t make sense to me.
And Christians for 1900 years weren’t seeing the signs of the end.
And I think you might be surprised at what Christians outside the U.S. believe.
End times are interpreted differently by different Christian traditions because Revelation is so confusing.
All we know for sure is this stanza from the ancient Creed (credo of faith) from the early church at the council of Nicea:
'And he will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and His Kingdom shall have no end...
...We look for the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come. '
'
Of course that doesn't make sense to you. You took the blue pill.
And again, "if you don't agree with me then you don't believe the Bible." Really?
In that same promise HE said that a vail should be in their eyes.
That’s why they can’t see Meshiac so far…..they will claim for HIM soon enough
Key word: irrevocable.
Exact Promise of the coming of the Messiah
Jonathan Kahn
The timing of the nation of Israel
https://youtu.be/Q8gjGLaKsBM?si=rvgT7_zW-H7Xj9uA
One last point. We are told by dispensationalists that if we as a nation bless Israel (foreign aid) then we ourselves will be blessed. Since we've started being Israel's greatest benefactor in the world, who could actually argue the US has the blessing of God upon it. It's been nothing but decline since I've been alive and the decline is accelerating. So there doesn't appear to be any blessing with giving $ to Israel, in fact quite the opposite.
We were greatly blessed, as was Israel. But then we started offering babies to Moloch, which Israel also did.
Remember? 60’s. And the decline became an avalanche.
But if by us supporting and giving $ Israel God is blessing us as a nation then we shouldn't have done such things. I'm just saying, I don't see any blessing or benefit to 'blessing' or showering Israel with $. Also, if the modern state of Israel is the still 'the apple of God's eye" (I used to hear Chuck Smith of Calvary Chapel say that) then He's got their back. They don't need $ from any nation. When Israel prospered in ancient times, they didn't need aid from foreign countries (yes some countries paid tribute or gave gifts but this was not needed for them to be strong and stable) and God didn't require other countries to provide such aid (exempting the once instance where Babylon provided means to rebuild the Temple post exile).
Here's reality: They should be relying on God for their protection, but the people of Israel, for the most part, don't believe in God and almost all absolutely reject Jesus Christ. Israel is a secular state if there ever was one.
Look into the Messianic Judaism movement. You can’t paint all the people of Israel with one broad stroke.
Check out pulse of Israel online. Read Caroline Glick.
They are all about relying on God for their protection. And I agree wholeheartedly with that.
But when there is talk about all the aid the U.S.gives Israel, I have to wonder about how fair it is to portray them like welfare recipients.
These are damned smart people, brainiest in the world. Are we to believe they have contributed nothing of value in their alliance with the U.S.?
I am not about ‘showering’ Israel with money. (Though there seems to be a disproportionate concern about that in comparison to other nations).
I am about the land is theirs and standing with them in their fight against their annihilation.
You may not know as much about Israel (that’s the truth) as you think you do.
The nation Israel is deep in sin as regards abortion and every other form of unrighteousness. So is the United States of America and almost every other nation on the face of the earth.
God is moving. Judgement is coming. And out of it, a new world is coming, with a special place for the nation of Israel.
There's a "special place" for every human being, but I don't think God deals with a country as a unit. Remember, the modern Israel did not exist at any time when the Bible was written. The modern Israel is filled with people of every religion, including Buddhists.
As is our government. Ours is actually filled with practicing Luciferians. We claimed the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob when we were established as a nation. We too have asked Him to leave our nation and since He will not stay where He is not wanted, He has withdrawn Himself. Their government is in as much of a mess as ours. The only way that they will see Him is when He reveals Himself to them as individuals. And He is doing so. He is also revealing Himself to Muslims, Buddhists…..even Luciferians.
The Israel of old was likewise filled with people who worshipped a variety of false gods.
They failed over and over again in attempting to keep the covenants made with God. They sacrificed their children to Molech and practiced ritual sexual perversion.
Outside a faithful remnant, they were not pure by any means and were continuously warned by the many prophets sent to them. They were removed from the land because of their apostasy. The first removal was relatively short before Cyrus freed them to return and rebuild as is told in Ezra and Nehemiah.
Jesus is a Jew. He came to this imperfect, messed up nation. Besides a faithful remnant, he was rejected. And afterwards the Jews were removed again. This last removal has lasted for 2,000 years of suffering that came to a head with Hitler and the Holocaust. Ironically, without the Holocaust, there would be no modern nation Israel. Hitler was made to serve the purposes of God.
According to Peter, a thousand years is like a day to God, so that we should not wonder about the passing of so much time. God exists outside of time.
Israel is beloved by God. And in the end God will be beloved by Israel.
How are they relying on God, when there's only one way to God, through Jesus Christ, whom they reject? Some are relying on a religion, and that's not going to cut it.
The scriptures say the day is coming when the nation Israel will accept the one they had rejected. The story foretold by the Old Testament prophets and explained by the Apostle Paul in Romans is not over.
It sounds as though you’ve made
up your mind and made your own gospel according to
you.
If God tells me He will bless those who bless Israel and curse those
who curse her, I believe it, regardless of what is going on on the
surface. Yea,
they should rely
on him but we, in some
cases, are his hands and feet.
Have you ever heard the joke abt the flood waters rising and the Christian prays for rescue. A fire truck comes along to get him and he won’t get in bc “God has got this. He’s going to rescue me”. The waters get higher so a boat comes along and he won’t get in. Then he’s on his roof and a helicopter comes along. He won’t go. He starts to swim and he’s angry at God for not rescuing him. God looks down and says he tried, via a truck, a boat and a helicopter! He uses US to bless THEM. I for one am continuing to be one that helps, even though I know God doesn’t necessarily need little
old
me. After all, same could be said for multiplying Trump it any of the people we multiply.
I've made up my own gospel by believing what all Christians believed until like 15 minutes ago.
Show me in the NT where it says that those who bless the state of Israel will be blessed and those who curse her will be cursed. I'm excited to this passage.
Do not let these misinterpretations of Scripture mislead you, friend. Cognitive Dissonance will not allow many to discern and understand. These folks refuse to accept that the Old Covenant was fulfilled and only the New Covenant through Jesus the Christ is relevant now. They just cannot let it go, likely because it takes all power away from them. Psalm 118:8
Amen and thank you. God bless
You seriously need to read the entire Bible. The Word says that He knew the end from the beginning. You cannot understand Revelation if you do not understand the beginning. And when you do away with the Covenant, you do away with the need for Yeshua (Jesus).
There are several.
Gen. 12:3 And I will bless them that bless you and curse them that curse you.
Isaiah 60:12 And those who will not serve you will be utterly destroyed,
perish.
Isaiah 41:11-12 Behold all those who strive with you shall perish. They shall be utterly destroyed. **It goes on quite a bit after this, describing calamities to come to them who hurt Israel.
Matthew 25:34-ff: Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
Who are these brethren? I'm guessing they are Jews...
The Jews are 'the least' in this world?
Understanding who 'Israel' is has been missed by many supposed Christians. Israel is the Church, the Bride of Christ. Only heretical dispensationalists and zionists think that the nation-state called Israel that was established in the 20th Century is the same as the Israel from God's Holy Word.
Any 'Christian' who places Israel above Jesus is blasphemous and an enemy to God. I do not apologize for writing truth, and I welcome debate.
Yes. That's 100 percent it. Don't look at Israel (post WW2 state) as God's people when in fact it is the body of believers who are God's people, call it "spiritual Israel" or just "the church." The new covenant, not the old one, is in effect now. Jesus fulfilled the old one. Christians should rescue, not wait to be rescued.
Very well stated!
When Zedekiah was slaughtered in battle with all his sons, his daughters went on and settled Scotland, Ireland and G Britain. When the jews were soundly defeated by the assyrian, they scattered over the Caucasus Mtns. (hence the name Caucasian) and the European countries. Israel is everywhere Israelites are everywhere, but Israel is Israel, too.
@Special Ted - I didn't read far enough before commenting! 👍
I don’t anyone who places Israel before God or Jesus. That’s never even crossed my mind.
I don’t think Israel in the Bible is the bride of Christ. I think Israel is Israel, Jerusalem is Jerusalem, a shining city on a hill, the Jordan River is the Jordan river and all the other places are pretty much who they are except of course, the renamed places like Persia is Iran, I think, and so on. I DO think the USA is sort of “Israel, Jr.”.
Respectfully, I strongly suggest that you try to read Scripture through the lens of the people that wrote it, instead of imposing modern literalism on it. Otherwise, you miss so much of what it is saying. Many times, especially in prophecy, things like "Persia" and "Zion" are not strictly literal - eg, "Babylon" in Revelation should be an obvious example. Taking the figurative as literal is to misunderstand God's revelation.
It's as if someone told you they had "ants in their pants", and you asked what species of ant.
But just who is the real "Israel" of the Bible? Rothchild's gift of land through the Balfour Declaration?
I do believe that Israel is Israel. To us, seems as though God might’ve done a different thing/ gone abt making his beloved country in a different way, but then again, isn’t that just like Him —to do things entirely the opposite of how we’d expect? He ushered in the savior, the eventual King of the Jews by way of a donkey. He offered us eternal
life by sacrificing His only begotten son. He goes about doing things far differently than we.
Yes.
If financial aid is your only measure of what it means to bless, you might be mistaken in your analysis.
What else is there? Fighting wars for them (attacking Iraq) could still be construed as foreign aid it just includes American blood as well.
If our financial aid is tied by the State Department to the implementation of immoral agendas, I would hardly call that a blessing.
Precisely. Avi Abelow, who makes the short informational videos for pulseofisrael.com, expresses the frustration of patriotic Israelis at the control the U.S. exerts upon them. They would love total independence.
‘W’ Bush and company did not fight that war for Israel. It was all for their own financial gain.
As for God’s blessing on any nation today, with the exception of some African countries that seem to be practicing Godliness, I don’t know any deserving. I think there’s more of a setting up the scenario for the final drama and God is moving to cause this and that to take place.
I, myself, feel personally very blessed for my lifelong stand for Israel. My 4 children and 13 grandchildren serve the Lord. The youngest was just baptized a few weeks ago.
And a miracle 14th is due next month!
And we all enjoy exceptional health and we’re all good looking to boot!
Here's one way:
"Harry S. Truman, the 33rd President of the United States, played a crucial role in the recognition of Israel as a legitimate Jewish state. On May 14, 1948, just 11 minutes after Israel’s declaration of independence, Truman became the first world leader to officially recognize Israel."
And another way:
"Richard Nixon played a crucial role in the 1973 Yom Kippur War, a pivotal moment in the history of Israel. During the war, Israel was caught off guard by a surprise attack from Egypt and Syria, and was facing a dire situation. Nixon, who was the President of the United States at the time, quickly responded to the crisis by ordering a massive airlift of military equipment and supplies to Israel."
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Thus says the Lord GOD: O my people, I will open your graves and have you rise from them, and bring you back to the land of Israel. Then you shall know that I am the LORD, when I open your graves and have you rise from them, O my people! I will put my spirit in you that you may live, and I will settle you upon your land; thus you shall know that I am the LORD. I have promised, and I will do it, says the LORD. Ezekiel 37:12-14
Of what other nation has the Lord said, ‘O my people!’
The United States became a major power when it supported the fledgling nation, Israel.
When Great Britain supported the Jewish people with a movement that resulted in the new creation of Israel, they were a world empire. When they betrayed Israel almost immediately after its statehood began, that great empire began to crumble.
The United States has been a false friend to Israel for many decades now, and many in power seek her destruction. There are secret alliances with her enemies and even open gifting of vast sums to Iran, who is the root and support of the terrorist groups that are completely open about their goal to exterminate all Jews.
God is not mocked. He knows what to bless and what to curse.
Read the heartbreak in Jesus words about His longing to shelter Israel.
He indeed fulfilled God’s covenant purposes. He created a new covenant and in the end there will be great rejoicing when Israel repents and mourns the one they have pierced.
We have destroyed our blessings with child/adult porn, abortion, corrupt political leaders, turning away from God, taking Him out of our daily lives. We have turned our back on God. You are taking a snip out of the Bible.
So perhaps doling foreign aid out would be included in that list of evils...
perhaps, but the only country I would give foreign aid to Israel. Super simple. :-)
You make a great point, Aloha50. Israel is the Church (Bride of Christ), not the nation-state established after God destroyed Jerusalem. Do not be deceived by dispensationalist heresy. God used Rome to destroy Jerusalem in 70AD as punishment for rejecting Jesus as the Messiah. The establishment of the nation-state of Israel is an affront to God and does not bear His blessing. I welcome debate on this issue...
I think you mean ‘His people’, because the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob hasn’t been in most ‘churches’ in a very long time.
I think he meant the "Church Invisible" (or whatever terminology one prefers)... it is indeed obvious to anyone who looks that "most churches" are merely social clubs paying lip service to Christ, rather than parts of the real Church. It's one of the perils of living in a society where "Christian" is (or used to be) considered socially positive.
I’m not smart enough to find my comment that you are correcting, but I agree with your assessment of the modern church.
I disagree that the modern state of Israel is an insult to God -- I would merely say that it is a secular nation no different from any other, and not especially blessed by God other than what he does with any other nation based on their actions. However, those who misinterpret secular Israel as ancient Covenant Israel are misreading the scripture and may well be an affront to God if they do so stubbornly rather than in ignorance.
That said, I also think that it's probably a good thing for Jewish people to have a secular state specifically for them to live in, given the continued existence of radical segments of Islam that do quite literally want to genocide all Jews. Part of the rationale for the British creating Israel was to prevent the possibility of Holocaust 2.0.
But the Balfour Declaration (1917) was long before the supposed holocaust, although the number of six million has been used since at least the beginning of the 20th Century. Have you ever seen the newspaper headline from the 1930’s with the headline, “Judea Declares War on Germany”?
Things are not what they seem and yes, history has purposefully been obscured by confusing accounts from multiple sources.
Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 mention the synagogue of satan…those who say they are Jews but are not really Jews.
Understanding this issue begins with discerning the truth about who and what the ‘players’ are.
Pastor Chuck Baldwin is an excellent source for interpreting scriptural prophecy and his website has his sermons available for streaming at
chuckbaldwinlive.com
This is a spiritual war and humans are mainly unaware of the manipulation we constantly endure from the spiritual realm. I don’t hate Jews or any other humans, as we are all equal in God’s eyes. Not one people elevated above another, or placed below. We all have Jesus available, because the New Covenant is through His sacrifice and not anything we do or who we are as a culture.
If you read Galatians 3, as you probably have, the church is now Israel and heirs of God's promises to Abraham. It isn't a piece of real estate or an ethnic group that has intermarried itself out of existence.
Ah…..replacement theology. That’s a dangerous, unscriptural teaching.
The ‘church’ was established by Edomites. (Esau and Ishmael’s progeny)
Those who became believers have been grafted into the Olive Tree, but we have been warned against boasting and ridiculing the olive branches that were cut off. Did you know that an olive branch that has become unfruitful can be cut off and lay beside the olive tree for years and STILL be grafted BACK into the tree and produce fruit?
Did you know that’s why His side was pierced?
The olive tree has to be pierced for a WILD olive branch to be grafted in. The implant is placed into the pierced side, of the TREE, then wrapped in linen .
How long before the graft takes hold?
Three days!!! (Resurrection!)
But He said if you boast against the original branch, you are in danger of being cut off yourself.
May that never be!!. Because HE will restore the original branch and it WILL produce fruit.
The Edomites church has taught this lie of replacement theology and it is a Lie, just as Esau and Ishmael told lies is Isaac and then Jacob throughout the Bible, their children and their children’s children are teaching those same lies today.
Well, I don't know any Edomites and they haven't taught me any lies. You can wait for God to give Israel more real estate if you like, but don't miss out on the Kingdom of God.
One day the Pharisees asked Jesus, “When will the Kingdom of God come?”
Jesus replied, “The Kingdom of God can’t be detected by visible signs. You won’t be able to say, ‘Here it is!’ or ‘It’s over there!’ For the Kingdom of God is already among you."
Matt. 17:20-21
Things are all going to
go wayyyy downhill before things get tidied up. Because your house is needing some TLC, doesn’t mean it’s falling down.
I always return to Mark 12:30-31, New International Version
30 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’[a] 31 The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b] There is no commandment greater than these.”
Sometimes it is pretty easy to see who loves their neighbor or not.
Not sure the point you're making, please clarify.
I think maybe she thinks we’re not loving each other because we are debating. Jesus was the most controversial person, who ever walked the earth, but some Christians think we should always be ‘nice’ and never speak our minds.
As for myself, I think the highest form of love of neighbor is to speak the Truth.
Agreed, though to adapt a separate piece of scripture, "do it with gentleness and respect". Or otherwise, don't despise your brother, even when you think he is badly wrong. (I'm apply this to all of us, in reply to you since you brought it up.)
As long as we are criticizing doctrines and facts, and not individuals and motives (unless obviously revealed), it is a good thing to "sharpen" one another.
Jesus was no pushover! He hated hypocrisy. The Lamb & the Lion.
Willing Spirit, what was the video about? Many people hijack Jonathan Cahn’s videos because he is so well-known, yo make money for themselves. It appears that this is what has happened to this video. (It has happened countless times. The person doing it should be arrested, and he is stealing material. But these thieves do it to other famous people too)
Anyway, I would like to look under Mr. Cahn’s official page and see if this particular video is there.
I believe it’s called The Timing of the Nation Israel.
The video is no longer available
due to a copyright claim by Jonathan Cahn. (I LOVE Jonathan Cahn! If I could get
everyone to read the bible and THE HARBINGER, I’d be beside
myself!)
Sorry!
No worries!
Any thorough Biblical study of God's covenant quickly reveals that God's promises of judgement are just as important as His promises of blessing. Unfortunately, most of the church today makes no attempt to understand His covenant before they go off making prophetic charts of His blessings. His covenant really isn't that hard to understand but our preconceived notions disallow an objective understand of what the Word is saying.
Starting with the Fall of Adam and Eve in the garden, God's covenant has always been about the redemption and restoration that will be accomplished through the coming of His Messiah. With the coming of the Second Adam, Jesus Christ, the blessings and the curses of God's covenant were fulfilled with His death, resurrection and ascension to the throne at the right hand of the Father to rule and reign till the end of time when the last enemy, Death, will be conquered. Because of Christ's ascension and glorification, Satan fell from heaven to earth like lightening and now the power of the Holy Spirit to redeem all of life empowers His body on earth to carry out the restoration putting all things under His feet. This is the work Christ gave to his church subjecting all evil spirits to His body on earth.
But instead of understanding that the fulfillment of the the Old Covenant promises with the coming of the Messiah requires a change in the administration of God's covenant thus bringing in the New Covenant in Christ's blood, the church still believes the lie that Satan has authority on earth and believes their work is only to wait for Christ to return to rescue them from Satan's rule. The church by and large fails to understand that all the blessings and curses of the Old Covenant were poured out within THE SAME GENERATION between Christ's resurrection and the destruction of Jerusalem and His Temple in 70 AD. The church will not be the salt to society she was meant to be until she regains a thorough understand of the New Covenant that the life, death and resurrection of the Messiah, Jesus Christ, achieved.
Amen Phil, nailed it. Sadly many US Christians have been taught otherwise and even worse have been taught that this view (the one believed by Christians for 1900 years) is 'replacement theology' which is a euphimism for 'racist' or 'anti-semite'.
Right?! There is no such thing as "replacement". There has ever been only one covenant and we see it from Genesis to Revelation. In fact, the Bible is the text of that covenant. When the Son of God came to His own, those that received Him inherited the blessings of the covenant and upon those that rejected Him were poured out the judgement of the covenant as Paul went to great lengths to explain that they were the branches that were cut out of the good olive tree at the same time that the wild olive branches, the Gentiles, were grafted in by their faith in the Messiah.
After reviewing the other comments of today, it became obvious that I should have stated something that I just ASSUMED (you know how that goes) was a given. Apparently, it's not, ie, the Trinity. God is three Persons - Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Jesus is the Second Person of the Trinity, the one and the many. Without that Biblical starting point, there can be no agreement with anything else. That'll teach me to assume.
Replacement theology is dangerousness.
A label without substance.
Not really.
I was raised on a church pew. My Fatger was a pastor.
I know that time is cyclical, not a straight line, as we have been taught. So I threw out dispensationalism a long, long time ago.
Then I caught on to what you obviously and other still believe…..that your ‘god’ is capricious and changeable and that He does not keep His Word.
My God is the God who made promises to bless the entire world through His people Israel. Not through their government. Through them.
And He has and is keeping that promise.
However the state of Israel, in its current form, came about……it was HIS doing.
He uses men to establish nations. Just as He used men to establish this nation.
But He is not a God Who makes promises that He does not keep. And He promised them that He would take them back. And He did.
His desire for them and for all nations is that each nation would have righteous leaders. But as mankind has proven over and over, we cannot govern ourselves. We need Him to govern us.
He is not capricious.
He is Faithful.
He cannot deny Who He Is.
He, Himself said that He does NOT change. He has not forsaken the people of Israel nor has He forsaken His Land.
My grandfather was a faithful country pastor of Christ in the Disciples of Christ denomination.
Since you say you disavow dispensationalism, what do you call your viewpoint?
You do have a tendency to mischaracterize others without understanding them... quite consistently too.
And you don’t?
I didn't characterize your position. I simply described my position which no one has yet tried to refute.
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The way God kept his promise to bless the entire world through Israel is by the redemptive love and sacrifice of Jesus Christ. Capricious? No. Read 2 Cor. 1:
17 You may be asking why I changed my plan. Do you think I make my plans carelessly? Do you think I am like people of the world who say “Yes” when they really mean “No”? 18 As surely as God is faithful, our word to you does not waver between “Yes” and “No.” 19 For Jesus Christ, the Son of God, does not waver between “Yes” and “No.” He is the one whom Silas,[f] Timothy, and I preached to you, and as God’s ultimate “Yes,” he always does what he says. 20 For all of God’s promises have been fulfilled in Christ with a resounding “Yes!” And through Christ, our “Amen” (which means “Yes”) ascends to God for his glory.
Exactly.
BTW, you still haven't given any substance to your label in spite of your protestation, "Not really."
The label without substance…..
Replacement Theology is a very real teaching and it is very much alive and well.
Dispensationalism is much like Replacement Theology. Based on linear Greek mindset…..which is how most people outside the Middle East think.
Time is cyclical. God is outside of time.
Greek thinking is that ‘this happens, then never happens again. And that’s simply not true.
Any student of history who does not see that history repeats itself is blind in one eye and can’t see out of the other.
Dispensationalism is , in a nutshell beginning |______|_____|_____|end
God sent people who were ‘types and shadows’ of Yeshua……fractals…..such as Joseph, Moses.
The cycle is “Hard times create strong
(I would also say ‘righteous’) men, Righteos men create easy(blessed) times, blessed times created weak men, weak men create hard times. Round and round we go.
He sent a Redeemer. Yeshua….His real name, which means Salvation.
And He will come and set up His Kingdom. Yet, according to the Word, there will still be people who will rebel. Because He said if they do not send representatives to a specific place…..the place where HE placed HIS Name….Jerusalem…..that those nations will get no rain. That’s why I stand for Israel. HE is the one Who said He placed His Name on Jerusalem. He said Jerusalem is His.
It is the Land. It is the people.
The West cannot seem to wrap its head around the fact that something can be more than one thing at the same time .
The flood, for instance, was both a blessing and a curse. A curse because of those with tainted DNA, but a blessing to Noah and to the earth for it was cleansed.
(Unfortunately someone on that boat had tainted DNA. I have a feeling I know who it was, but I can’t prove it).
The judgement that is coming will be a blessing for the righteous (those who exercise right judgement) but a curse for those who have given themselves over to delusion, or whom He has “…..given over to a reprobate mind, to believe a lie, and be damned”.
Here’s sone thing interesting to look at to prove He is still in love with the Land and the people.
Look at the Scriptures re Mt Ebal and Mt Gerizim. One Mountain was cursed, as it still is today. One mountain received a blessing, and it is still blessed today (at least as soon as one nation took control of it)
Now. Look at who has control of those mountains, and then tell me it is no longer the land….or the people.
It’s an interesting study, if you’re willing to do it.
Oh... I don't doubt that there is something called Replacement Theology. That's not my position. And I am beginning to get an idea where you are coming from. The "cyclical time" gave it away. At any rate, I see you have a whole rational for your position (even if it's not Biblically based), so knock yourself out. I'll watch from the sidelines.
It is Biblically based. When you study the Word in the original language, Hebrew, it changes your perspective.
I get why you think it isn’t Biblically based. You don’t study the Word in its original language. You still believe what the CC taught, as Protestants never left that religion behind. The ‘church’ wanted to celebrate the pagan holidays…..one of the sins of Israel was that they didn’t want to be a ‘peculiar’ people. They wanted to do the pagan things.
I get it.
I did ‘sun’ day worship and all those pagan things the ‘church’ was doing.
I had no problems following the “Thou shalt not” commandments. It was the first four I had a problem with, as do most Christians. Especially the Sabbath. Hardest command of all. Yet, it has become our greatest blessing.
So, yeah.
I get that people who believe that His Word has been altered. Done away with refuse to believe His entire Word from the Revelation all the way back to Genesis.
I believe every single word. And that that Word became flesh. I believe it all…..but it has to be studied in context and rightly divided.
But I can see that you don’t want that.
At least not now.
Btw, nothing much grows on Mt Ebal, but there are vineyards and villages on Mt Gerizim. His curse still remains on Mt and the blessings returned to Gerizim)
Some of His promises are ‘oaths’ some are ‘vows’. A vow has conditions.
“If you will, then I will…..”
An oath is simply “I will….”
His blessing to Abraham and his descendants are without any conditions. And those blessings remain. An oath. They were translated as the same word, but they are not the same in the original language.
Then I caught on to what you obviously and other still believe…..that your ‘god’ is capricious and changeable and that He does not keep His Word.....................
Sorry... I HAD to break in at this point and laugh - LOL
People have a tendency to put a label on an idea or person, and then they've dispensed with that crazy idea or person. We see it in politics, with labels like "racist," "misogynist," etc. In church groups, "Replacement Theology" tidies everything up and allows it to be shelved, and those people can now be kicked to the curb. Jesus fulfilled the old covenant. He IS the reward promised by God. Disappointing to some, who expected real estate.
And it does exist. That has been proven in this conversation.
This conversation is indeed a good demonstration.
Aloha50–Your first paragraph in your first comment answers your own question in the word IF. Many of God‘s promises were/are conditional. So yes, He reserves the right. He is sovereign.
The key, I think, is understanding that "Israel" isn't on a map. What God promised to Israel has been promised to those who are in Christ.
"And now that you belong to Christ, you are the true children of Abraham. You are his heirs, and God’s promise to Abraham belongs to you." Gal. 3:29
Agree
My husband's eschatology has matched yours for decades. It's so vastly different from what is preached in most American churches, that it's hard to wrap my head around. However, as I'm seeing the mounting failures of the American church in general - (false gospels of prosperity & happiness, a total lack of preparedness for the trials ans tribulations we are promised to encounter) - I'm beginning to understand the fact we got this wrong too. The word "rapture" never even appeared in the Bible until the Douay- Rheims version. I'm slowly listening to a sermon series on Revelation that breaks this down. I'm interested to understand!
I don’t believe the word rapture is in any version of the Bible including the Douay-Rheims version. In the New Testament Greek the word harpazo appears which means snatching or catching away….
God bless you on your journey. He'll lead you to the truth as He has your husband.
Heard that Aloha50 argument yesterday from Tiredcitizen. So, “Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundations? Tell me, if you understand” (Job 38:4). Who are you to handcuff God Himself to yesterday? “Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever” (Hebrews 13:8). “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training in righteousness so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work” (2 Timothy 3:16-17). “The ears of those who hear will listen” (Isaiah 32:3).
that whole passage in Job is my favorite guide to orient my place in the universe. I am not "the potter", only "clay. it is enough, and I am at peace in chaos. so.
Amen. Sets me right down on my knees.
In 1948 a Nation was born in a day….
More promising than that?
Clock is ticking now.
Also to think about is the fact that Israel, the modern state, is not the same Israel to whom God made promises. If everyone in that country sent in DNA for testing, you wouldn't find a true ethnic Jew descended from Abraham.
Abraham was so long ago that honestly I'd be surprised if a large portion of the earth's population didn't have some degree of descent from him. There's no question that a great many people in modern Israel do trace descent from Abraham, but even in Covenant Israel it was never a question of biological descent - consider Ruth and Rahab as two examples.
(And none of that should be taken to imply that anyone can be part of the "Israel of God" while rejecting Christ. "It is not the children according to the flesh", and all that.)
Good points, TB. The Israelites' intermarriage was widespread and boundless. They abandoned God; the temple was destroyed; they demanded a human king . . . The whole sad story is there so we can see that they are like us. They can't keep the rules because no human being can. They are held up as an example of what NOT to do, and why the sacrifice of Jesus was necessary. The thread of the story is a Savior, not a batch of unruly people. Though they were faithless, God remains faithful.
Most people on this thread have no idea what they are talking about.
Not one eh?.
Zephaniah 2: 9 Therefore as I live, saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, Surely Moab shall be as Sodom, and the children of Ammon as Gomorrah, even the breeding of nettles, and saltpits, and a perpetual desolation: the residue of my people shall spoil them, and the remnant of my people shall possess them.
10 This shall they have for their pride, because they have reproached and magnified themselves against the people of the LORD of hosts.
Zecheriah 8: 11 But now I will not be unto the residue of this people as in the former days, saith the LORD of hosts.
12 For the seed shall be prosperous; the vine shall give her fruit, and the ground shall give her increase, and the heavens shall give their dew; and I will cause the remnant of this people to possess all these things.
13 And it shall come to pass, that as ye were a curse among the heathen, O house of Judah, and house of Israel; so will I save you, and ye shall be a blessing: fear not, but let your hands be strong.
Zecheriah 14: 1 ¶ Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
As discussed previously in this thread, the promises made to Israel now belong to the church. Galatians 3:29
Jeremiah 31 speaks of Israel's restoration - verse 3 states, ....."Yes, I have loved you with an EVERLASTING love; therefore, with lovingkindness I have drawn you"
AND AGAIN:
vs. 34 No more shall every man teach his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the Lord. For I will FORGIVE their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more.”
35 Thus says the Lord, Who gives the sun for a light by day,
The ordinances of the moon and the stars for a light by night,
Who disturbs the sea, And its waves roar (The Lord of hosts is His name):
36 “If those ordinances depart from before Me, says the Lord,
Then the seed of Israel shall also cease from being a NATION before Me forever.”
Sounds to me God has FULLY committed to Israel for as long as we still have the sun and the moon!
Yes, and the church is Israel. Read Galatians 3.
NO! The Church is the Bride of Christ. Israel has always been portrayed as "married to God" as the book of Hosea displays. The Church is NOT Israel, no matter how you slice it
Thanks for sharing your views.
This morning I was reading chaps 24 -28. Yup.
I was searching for verses about God’s sovereignty for a devotional book I am writing, and this passage leapt out at me.
Let us know when u finish your book! I’d love to read it!
Currently persuading one daughter who is a busy professional artist to get me some artwork while I finish up the research. 😁
I would like to purchase your devotional book when you're ready. Thank you for consistently sharing God's Word in this 'Stack's comment section. I pray that the Lord protects you and blesses you beyond measure, and you are strengthened and encouraged in your ministry to spread the Gospel and share the love of our Father to all, in Jesus' name, amen.
Thank you very much.
He is sovereign over all, even the Devil. From Luke 4:6 GEN
And the devil said unto him, All this (a) power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is (b) delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.
(a) By this word "power" are meant the kingdoms themselves which have the power: and so this is said using the figure of speech metonymy.
(b) This is surely so, for he is prince of the world, but not absolutely, and is the sovereign of it only by permission and request, and therefore he does not truly say that he can give it to whom he will.
Unless, of course, the devil lied about all of that.
Somehow I get the idea that our God could figure that out.
In fact, he did. He took what was behind Door No. 2.
The word of the Lord strikes again! Blessings
Modern Israel certainly falls in the category of doing evil in God's sight and not listening to His voice. The genocide of the innocent Palestinian civilians is the current transgression by Israel. Yet US House bows down to them and obeys BiBi's order to aid in his mass slaughter. God is love, not prejudice, not hatred, not murder. For those of you who support Israel's heinous crimes, what will you say to God when you face Him? If you condone, deny, encourage or turn a blind eye to the mass murder of God's Palestinian children, how can you hope to enter God's kingdom now or ever? Any mentally ill person can interpret the Bible according to his own delusions, but can any of you honestly say it pleases God to see genocide of people he created out of His own love?
And so it’s ok with you if Israel gets attacked and their citizens murdered, but it’s not ok for them to fight back? And who are any of us to decide at what measure they should stop fighting back? Do you have the intel they do? Are you privy to the inner conversations of Israel defense military? Do you have advanced knowledge and communications of the enemy and their plan? When do you stop fighting back against the enemy who celebrates your slaughter? Maybe Israel should try to reason with the enemy and have them write down a list of their demands and placate to them just like the President of Columbia University just did with the spoiled brats protesting and tearing up their campus and disrupting everything? What a shameful display that was. I was embarrassed for the spineless man in charge who got his nuts handed to him on a silver platter then thanked them for doing it to him. Maybe participation trophies weren’t handed out equally to the bullies demanding their way. 🤔
I find it interesting that people seem to get on the band wagon of Israel committing genocide against innocent people who live amidst the enemy who continues to try and destroy them and celebrate it.
Would you sit and discuss the demands of a gang of meth heads raping women and children? Because if you go in with force surely innocent people might get killed too. War is ugly. All of this is ugly and I’m sure any sane person would agree we wished it weren’t happening. But to call Israel guilty of genocide when you don’t know probably a tenth of the actual facts is egotistical. You think you know? You don’t. You aren’t there. You don’t have the information they deal with and know what they know. None of us does. The war mongers are telling us what they want us to think we know. Pppffttt. Is Israel govt corrupt? I would say yes, just like ours. I’m glad I’m not God because I see no humanly way to sort this out and be the righteous judge that He is.
Well said, Sunnydaze. Also he/she? doesn't understand the history of Palestine and their charter that implicitly states that they want Israel and their people dead. No negotiations, just dead. At least 5 generations of children raised by Hamas, a terrorist organization, to hate with all their might and poison every thought towards the extinction of Israel. They don't want a 2 state solution - and the rest of the region knows that, which is why Egypt and the rest of the UAE have strict laws keeping them out - they don't want them. And, as Brandon OBiden and the Squad are pushing for, If we bring in 100,000 displaced Palestinians into our country, it will most assuredly be de@th to America. It's by design. And states like MN and MI are already doomed.
Exactly. Extinction is the better word to use instead of just “destroy”.
I find people just want their opinion to be right no matter what. Everybody seems to think they know it all.
I suspect even those of us who defend Israel don’t even know the half of what’s really going on. And I’m not advocating for us to send any money to Israel either. I think we can support them w/o sending money we don’t have. And I suspect whatever money gets sent isn’t really going to them or their people anyway. Enter obiden globalist bank account to spread to everyone around who are helping terrorize the world. I try to stay neutral and realize that whatever they do to defend themselves is beyond my pay grade. That’s not to say I am okay with innocent people dying. I’m not. On either side. But I do believe when the enemy cheers and shouts and salivates for your extinction the reply back being nice just won’t work. It’s funny that I don’t hear any of them shouting for Iran and Hamas to stop attacking. 🤔 Only for Israel to stop retaliating. 🙄 I suspect they are unaware by choice or media propaganda that the attacks are still happening, just not shown to the general public. But hey, they should just sit quietly and tend to the wounded day in and day out and be good little martyrs. 🤦🏼♀️
First of all in your irrational rant, you take the tact that many Israel defenders use with your ad hominem attack and twisting of my message. Let me state that I am opposed to any and all attacks on innocent citizens anywhere anytime. Also you have obviously not done your research. You've got your facts all screwed up. Furthermore, how would you feel if it were you and your family being bombed, home destroyed, grandmother assassinated, aid workers bringing food to you murdered? Wouldn't you desperately want the world to care and stop it? I have researched this extensively. I am not connected by religion, political party or any other reason to support one side or another in any conflict. I am on the side of humanitarianism and God's love. Here are just a couple of links if you have the courage to read the truth. https://www.naturalnews.com/2024-04-14-christian-pastor-israel-brutal-occupation-palestine.html, https://www.naturalnews.com/2024-04-26-how-both-israel-and-the-gop-completely-lost-my-support.html God bless!
And then you have this cooking on the back burner:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUiu6mcgk88
Later Jay
Interesting. And behind them both is obummer. And behind him is???
That's the $64K Question.
Later Jay
Yes, the entire US Government is Israel's puppet.
I actually get my information from a Messianic Jew who is on the ground in Israel hiding in his bunker off and on with his wife and kids who sends reports out hourly since October. He also has done his time serving in the Israeli Army years ago so he knows things I’m guessing you have no idea about. I prefer to get information from the source.
Contrary to what ever you read into my “irrational rant”… the GOP is crap and are traitors. I do not wish for us to send Israel more money we don’t even have. I think there are ways to support that are not financial. I also don’t think you saw past anything to understand that I said any sane person wants this to stop. I don’t wish for any innocent people to be killed. But when you are in a war with an enemy that salivates for your complete extinction you are dealing with a rabid animal not capable of any rationale thought or choices. It’s demonic and influenced by pure evil. But, I’m sure you have the answer to dealing appropriately with all that through your sources. I’m sure your ideas will work if Israel’s corrupt government and the USA’s corrupt government would just listen to you and everyone else who thinks their retaliation to a rabid evil enemy is disproportionate. You’re entitled to your take and so am I. I don’t actually care about being right either. I suspect NONE of us understands the full information because NONE of us has the truth being told to us.
I think you've got it backwards. It is Israeli govt which is salivating for the complete extinction of the Palestinians. Didn't you watch the entire video Jay Horton posted? You commented on it. It certainly validates what I said about the genocide of the Palestinians committed by IDF, not your stance at all. Btw, to base your view of the situation on only one source who supposedly is coming from ground zero is to accept that person's viewpoint alone. I would suggest studying multiple reliable sources before forming an opinion. God Bless!
... if they wanted to genocide the palestinians, it would be a heck of a lot easier to just carpet-bomb the whole region instead of using ground troops and precision strikes on Hamas positions.
As I've said to other posters, positing a conspiracy where the conspirators use inefficient and harder-than-necessary means to achieve their alleged goals is not very plausible.
Like I said, the Israeli gov wants all us to think they are just defending themselves. But thanks to the internet and truthseekers, their dirty secret is coming out.
https://binkylarue.substack.com/p/the-october-7-2023-hamas-attack-was
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUiu6mcgk88
It's all about deception. The Israeli govt is a master of covering up their crimes and intentions and blaming it on others so they can get US support. Been going on since the formation of Israel and before.
Yep what has Palestine spent all their aid money on this past decade? Improving their citizens’ lives?
Israel's response is wildly disproportionate.
Interesting since you must be privy to top secret intel that the rest of us don’t have access to. Therefore your opinion holds more water than the rest of us who might disagree. It’s ok. Join with the people and tell Israel’s women and children and other innocents that they are retaliating against pure evil too much. Maybe they’ll see it your way and let the ones who are salivating for their death and extinction call the shots. After all, what’s happening to them isn’t as bad as what’s happening to the other people. Maybe they can sit down and talk with the devil about his tactics and talk him off the ledge.
Yeah, apparently you need special intel to understand simple math. Tens of thousands dead on one side of the latest conflict, vs dozens. That would be the definition of disproportionate.
Bibi and Mossad likely played a very big role in 9/11.
https://hillmd.substack.com/p/fight-club-movie-reveals-redacteds
Keep us posted on the devotional. Always looking for good Bible based daily devos.
Would appreciate your prayers for guidance in the completion and publishing phases. Thank you!
Will add you to my prayer list🙏🏻
”if My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land.“
II Chronicles 7:14 NKJV
https://bible.com/bible/114/2ch.7.14.NKJV
And the clock keeps ticking….
That promises to Israel’s don’t apply to anyone else that doesn’t claim them.
We need first to repent if we are hoping for a change and blessing.
I do recommend “The Harbinger “ by Jonathan Cahn. And the sequel too.
The clock hasn’t stopped at all for America.
Hello Carlos, my brother-in-Christ. In my personal experience, I only recommend the Holy Bible as a reference for learning. I truly believe that anyone can read and understand the 1611 KJV if they are truly seeking God. No offense intended to you, anyone reading, or any other version of God's Word, but my personal experience is that when I truly began seeking/asking/knocking, our Heavenly Father opened my eyes with discernment. God bless you and your house.
Not to start a flame-war or anything (since we sort of got into this once before), but I would suggests that investing effort in understanding the 1611KJV is a waste when highly educated Christian scholars have produced accurate and reliable translations in much more modern English. (For any comment readers who would rather hear this from an expert instead of a random poster, I would suggest searching "Mark Ward" on youtube.)
I like to say that since in utero I was exposed regularly to the King James Version of the Bible, Elizabethean English is my first language. Hence in high school and college, I sailed right through the study of Shakespeare.
Not too many have likely had that experience, so I agree that modern versions will require a lot less work to understand.
TB…yes we’ve had some good dialogue before and I’m glad we did! Your comments are always welcome. I have no reason to disagree with you personally, as I use multiple translations in my own study. I just prefer the 1611 as my primary source and defer to it in any circumstance.
It was difficult for me to understand at one time, until my prayers were answered to open my eyes.
Psalm 118:8
Fair enough. I don't really have a quarrel with anyone reading or studying it for reasons of their own choosing, just with people who want to insist on it as if it was uniquely inspired or that it should be the standard for everyone. (Thus why I question if it's worth learning to understand for those who don't already - IMO the effort would be better spent learning Greek to read it in the original language, given that's the form of words that was actually inspired by God.)
Well stated!
One of my favorites
The key to it all.
I have to admit that I'm dreading DeSantis' term ending at some point as the FL governor. I don't know that anyone else will be able to do the same or better. I know a lot has to do with the House/Senate as well, but he's been pushing for and signing all sorts of things that a lot of other states would love to see. (Of course, until we get rid of RINOs like Phelan in TX, that won't matter as much, but hoping the primaries smile on us and Dade and his ilk get sent packing.)
I'd say that the case looks good for Trump, but he's still dealing with an "impartial" jury of NY citizens. I know it only takes one person to say "not guilty" but that may still be holding out too much hope for a truly ethical jury.
Jeff Childers for Governor!!
Matt Gaetz
I'm a big fan. I hope he doesn't fumble and become another RINO like the others.
We can only nope and pray he do3snt wear a mask that will drop like other rinos.
From FL
And why don’t other Republican governors just follow his playbook?
Well, sometimes it requires actual Republicans/conservatives in the state Congress to get to those points as well. And sometimes you just have RINOs as governors who don't want to take any sort of possible political "risk". That's why you get some "R" governors vetoing good bills that then have to be kicked _back_ to Congress to override. Also why you had many "R" governors staying in masked up and locked down statuses well after that was necessary. (Yeah, it was never necessary, but even after FL led the way there, far too many "R" governors kept up their mask/closure nonsense.)
I’m beginning to think the term RINO is being misused. RINO’s are really people like Gaetz. Republicans have been spineless for basically forever. Those in the Freedom Caucus really carry the Republican title for the campaign funding.
Maybe, but in our case, Phelan fits the definition. Ran as a Republican, worked hard to pass things that Republicans did not and do not want, but were very much on the Democrat wishlist. Also appointed Democrats to key positions (i.e. buying their votes for Speaker). Sadly, I believe he "represents" the Austin area so he has to be over-the-top crazy to get voted out. I think he's got some good opposition in the primary, but we'll see what happens.
Phelan in a runoff is a good sign they're waking up in Beaumont. Even if he wins, he'll be hard-pressed to get his mis-speakership back. Let's hope.
Mr Schott
I think I would be concerned about the California vote in Tejas....
Just looking at for a few states away.
Later Jay
I remember when Walkin Lawton was our senator- from 1971-1989. Everyone loved him and thought he did a good job. Then he became governor and when he was enacting policies in the state I remember thinking it must be much easier to be a senator than a governor. I thought he was a disappointing governor. It’s a lot easier to be 1 out of 100 than to be the guy at the top with the responsibility. We needs to order cases of Swords of Damocles so these chuckleheads remember who they work for.
The good conservative people of Florida voted in a Super majority of Republicans in the state legislative offices, along with DeSantis.
I’m sure there are many Republican governors who wish fervently that they had that kind of cover and backing.
Like AL just to the north...MeMaw hasn't even reigned in powers of the state health officer, Scott Harris, - who is APPOINTED by an unelected State Committee of Public Health (mostly people from the Medical Association of AL). But remember, MeMaw is the one who said we needed to start blaming the spread of Covid on all the unvaccinated folks.🙄
Never mind Scott Harris (SHO) and Superintendent of the State BOE, Eric Mackey, have been associated with a left-wing group pushing radical sexxx ed.
Watch out for AL. They aren't as RED as it may appear.
Because they have contempt for us...and they're p*ssy's?
Hopefully someone will step up for you. We are lost here with one bad one after another
Well said, Barbara. We are lost in Oregon, with little hope for change.
Agreed. Until we can get rid of mail in voting we are doomed
Only in government leadership are we lost … there are so many dynamic churches and strong believers here.
But God … 👍🏼
Kat Cammack
Good one Chloe.
Later Jay
It’s a happy wonder seeing Florida and Texas competing to out-conservative and out-rollback-woke each other. Florida might be winning, so let’s go, Texas! I like this race and hope it has coattails across the nation.
I think the tide has changed. I really think Florida has several years of voting conservative even after DeSantis has to vacate the governors mansion.
We've had a lot of like minded folks move down here since c19.
I've never felt better than now about Florida's future.
From your keyboard to God’s eyes!
I am not for lab-made meat, but I do not like passing laws that go against the capitalist system of free markets. Making a law banning the sale of something takes away freedom. If there are people who want to buy that garbage, why should they be not allowed? I think it is a slippery slope. Instead of banning, the law could have been that the lab-meat be labeled as such and that it was not allowed to ever be sold mixed in with beef from American farmers. The labeling could have been legislated to be red in inch tall letters. The product was going to fail on its own with truth in labeling. I just am leery of making laws to ban what I don’t like because the other side can come in and do the same to me…
Your intelligent proposal would fail because the same government that runs the CDC and the NIH, and forces mRNA vaccines on its population, ALSO runs the FDA and thus determines how foods will be labelled. I would not trust any government letter agency to inform me truthfully these days.
Since food looks like it will be the next bioweapon, pushed down our gullets this time, I’d say we need to start dismantling the DOD.
Good call Janet — it already is…
https://open.substack.com/pub/chemtrails/p/90-of-cheese-contains-pfizer-product?r=1b99c1&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
Exactly
I mean, if California can legislate that products must be labelled as "known to the state of California to cause cancer", surely Florida can legislate to label lab-grown meat or mRNA or whatever.
I sort of agree, except that Bill Gates is so heavily invested in pushing this and a myriad of other crap on us in the name of climate change, that an outright ban is preferable. Lab grown meat in vats uses cancer cell lines to grow it. That in itself should make us all wary. And most legislation is written in a way that they can get around what is trying to be accomplished, so “labeling requirements” really won’t be as effective as you think. I for one, do not want to eat this crap, but they’ll find a way to hide it.
Just like the bug ingredients and bio engineered crap they are hiding in food now. You pretty much have to look up everything on your phone to avoid it now. And it’s unavoidable.
All the more reason to never eat packaged food. Eat real food.
Right. I mean, there is flour made out of crickets, but it doesn’t say cricket flour. It says acheta powder.
Just read about cricket powder. One review was from a vegan who gives it to his/her cat. Call PETA!🤢
I get your point Rose, but in this current "business" environment, there really isn't a pure free market with the huge mega corporations dominating the markets and their own leadership susceptibility to other agendas pushed by other Globalist forces. Until we actually cut our government by 80% or more, DeSantis is taking the necessary immediate steps to combat global elites and their truly demonic agendas.
If we had a free market, incandescents would still be available.
True. In order to have a truly free market, we need to defund and shut down 80% or more of our federal, state and local governments. Unfortunately, true liberty requires an entire population with the same basic “moral code”, which in the current environment, requires a complete Christian revival, which has previously occurred in our country’s history and coincidentally resulted in a nation that was in turn blessed by God.
And dishwashers, showers, washing machines, and toilets that worked.
I wish the items that are not milk, meat, etc., were prohibited from using those words in advertising or labeling.
Like "processed cheese food". mmmm Velveeta!
I opened my boyfriend’s refrigerator once and in it he had 6 cases of Budweiser and a box of velveeta.
. I looked at him and said- ironically the beer is the healthiest thing in your refrigerator.
Lolol! Sounds like my bachelor days!
Thank the good Lord he blessed me with a saint as a wife!
American cheese is another
Much better solution than rewarding campaign contributors with a statewide, government-protected monopoly.
I disagree on that one. Offering a completely new food-type to the public that is untested reminds me of the 'safe and effective' lie that was thrown at us and which we couldn't confirm. Let's require testing of its safety and nutritional value before the unsuspecting public gets their fork ready.
Look at GMOS. They don’t have to be labeled, they’re in everything and all the studies show dire consequences for humanity. GRAS- something the government made up so the psychopaths can avoid doing actual safety testing.
100% testing should be done. And yes, the jab was a huge lie complete with propaganda that was designed to do what propaganda does. My concern is just that banning things is only increasing government control.
We can be judicious in our 'just banning'. Reminds me of those who yell book banning when we try to keep pornographic books away from kids.
Yes, like we don’t allow human meat to be sold, or spoiled meat. It’s not a free choice or free market for those and I’m fine with that limitation.
Gates is making money off his fake meat. Our government is buying (our tax dollars) and giving it to the food banks that give to the poor. It's a write off for Gates.
Ghate$ likes to "legally" game the system and makes mucho $$$$. He needs the $$$ to keep the Beltway gang happy.
Problem is many have no clue what they are eating...gmo foods should be banned along with many ingredients. Look around...people are just looking sick!
Agree but not generally a fan of the “protect people for their own good” school of thought.
Yes it's a slippery slope.
Just look at the consequences of the patriot act.
Was so disappointed when I found out that those big beautiful papayas I fell in love with years ago in Hawaii are now GMO. They are not labeled, so people do not know.
Yep. You are correct. There is nothing - at all - conservative about this bill. When we all sit here and complain about the government "creating markets" and "creating monopolies" and "favoring some businesses over others," this is what it looks like in practice. He is essentially creating a monopoly for the beef producers in his state and enforcing it with threat of government violence. And how much do we want to bet that the beef producer lobby makes some campaign contributions?
Just because it's a product none of us here like (and everyone should be skeptical of), we cheer what is obviously the type of (D) and leftist policy that we yell about everywhere else. It's exactly the same thing. So, we shouldn't cheer. Slippery slopes are real and bigger government is always bigger government at someone else's expense.
I agree, to a point. I’m not a fan of more government regulations or involvement in general but I do think there is a time and place for that. To me it’s kind of more akin to banning the sale of human meat. We don’t object that some people might want to eat human meat so it should be ok to sell it. I also don’t think it should be called meat anyway. It’s not flesh. Maybe call it engineered protein or something. Like formula isn’t called breast milk, because it isn’t the same thing although they try to approximate it as much as they can.
There is a big difference b/w gov't regulation/involvement and straight-up authoritarian banning (esp. if the banning helps your financial or political allies). I think there were options other than basically banning competition, if safety was a genuine concern. Like state testing requirements; composition testing via an approved 3rd party; state warning label requirements as with cigars/cigarettes in some places and pretty much every electronic sold in CA; a luxury tax. I like the labeling/naming ideas.
I also think there's a pretty big moral/ethical difference b/w human meat and lab grown meat. And let's face it, our side is now getting dangerously close to assuming everything we don't know or like is somehow a "woke" or WEF-connected thing. That is not going to be good for the future. We need more innovation and more industry, not less.
Anything that Bill Gates is involved in is not for the good of people. I would expect that human meat would actually be better for than anything the has his hand in. On another note, you can still order it online and have it shipped to you… so are not without means to get it for yourself.
Order fake meat you mean? Yeah I guess that is true.
I’m just not sure how well those other options really work, if there is an issue with these products. Maybe ban them until they can prove long term safety. We really have no idea if these “foods” will have any long term negative effects or not at this point. I get that they’re not quite an equivalent of eating human meat but they’re also not your average run of the mill food products. It’s not like they’re banning chicken or tofu to favor beef producers.
And I’m all for innovation but Frankenfoods are not the kind of innovation I think we need most and they likely have more potential to cause harm than others. I would like to see more innovations in agriculture than see engineered artificial food.
I guess at the end of the day, it's an issue of principle for me. I can't get behind authoritarian policies when it comes to products that just haven't proven to be harmful. I also note, they haven't banned the C19 shots, which are proven harmful. Why not take the same stance here and simply advise against the product if they feel it might be dangerous?
Again, I am not a fan of these products, but IMO authoritarianism always leads to unintended problems and runs counter to my overall stance of small, limited gov't (even though I am also guilty of cheering on some authoritarian things at times...).
Thanks for the conversation. I appreciate that you challenge some things and make me think them through.
I completely get that, and tend to want to hold to principles in general too. However, I can also see that there are times when it might be better not to hold fast to a principle for the sake of it. There is probably not going to be a case where you can hold to a principle 100% so there are likely to be points where you are going to decide to draw the line. You’re not comfortable with this particular line and I respect that. I guess we all have different parameters and limits for these kinds of things.
Yes!
They can only do it to you if you are selling a fake product that hurts the consumer, like gmo seeds. We have all kinds of consumer protection laws. Most recently they failed us selling fake shots to nearly every government in the world. So, I’m glad desantis and Florida are thinking beyond the box and banning the fake stuff.
Now, if they will label it as what it is, composting food stuffs and bugs for people who want meat but won’t eat it due to mental challenges, then we can have another go round I guess.
On anything else, fine, not “ food”. Our country is poisoning us like no other country.
Excellent point Rose.
Pigs have used mRNA "vaccines" for several years now. Have you ever seen any pork labeled to show mRNA is in it? Are you aware that lawsuits have been filed to force this disclosure, which has faced deep pocketed opposition?
FDA will ban natural substances that are healthy if it threatens their owners' profits. Their name is very revealing - Food & Drug Administration - administration of drugs into you...
I was raised with livestock being a part of my childhood. Dairy cattle, hogs, chickens, sheep, and goats. The only mRNA vaccines I was aware of were one they used on poultry and the trials did not go well and they quit using the technology because the animals in the trial group had a very high mortality rate. Hogs go to market many days after chickens do so it is surprising to me to hear that they are using them on hogs (but really is anything surprising these days!!!). But when the tech came out for humans I was like no way Jose! My only statement is that I don’t want the government dictating more things. This is how we got vaccine mandates-the government making choices for us.
I agree with his banning. He is keeping garbage out of our state. If it was healthy and good for you, it would be a different story. If you open the door to this garbage, it will come in one way or another. They will price it so low that those in lower income will buy it regardless of labels…it is another way of harming those less fortunate. If you want to get it, you can still order it online and ship to you.
Ditto. I live in live in Florida. Would never touch the stuff but have been thinking the same thing. I think this legislation was a mistake.
This reply does not appear to be showing up but I think it was an intelligent response and came through my email. I will leave it anonymous in case the commenter decided to not post it after all: In fact, off the top of my head other options that would have been less draconian and more effective: - requiring a strict set of tests with evidence of safety, purity, and chemical composition provided to the state of FL every year (which would allow this product to be used to 'out' any hidden agenda); - labeling requirements or regulations (e.g., can't call it "beef" in FL, maybe even ridiculous warning labels like cigars have); - a luxury tax that would obviously be paid primarily by limousine liberals. Lots of other less authoritarian options were available to address concerns.
Excellent points!
Would everybody, including Jeff, please stop putting apostrophes where they don't belong (eg NDAs, 1970s, bananas, etc). Making a world plural NEVER involves an apostrophe, which is used to denote possession. (as in "an NDA's wording; the wording belongs to the NDA). Please and thank you. So. Acronyms, year groupings, nouns ... simply add the 's' (except for nouns that have alternate spellings for plural forms as in 'families').
One of my favorite grammatical peave's. 😁
"peeves" (I see what you did there!)
You're trolling, right? It's "peeves", darling! 😉
Lolol
One more to add to the list:
“Led”, not “lead” when used as a past tense of “lead”. 🙄
Nothing can be worse than mixing up “went” and “gone”. And inserting “of” in a sentence as in “I wish I had of called you first.”
The apostrophe was a troll, but the misspelling was unintentional. 😁
😂😆
Curtis, hahaha!
All true, but I also know autocorrect loves to commit this grammatical error.
I call it spell wrecker.
😂🤣 Good one!! I am going to have to remember that one!
Mrs. "the Knife"
Better than p*cker
lol
I think autocorrect should be thrown into the dustbin!
A friend of mine says it's from Satan.........
Could be something to that.
Later Jay
🤣
I much prefer the "underline it in red but don't automatically change it" version that I get on desktop.
Perfect.
You can disable it. But then you are on your own. 😉
I find it more a nuisance than a help!
Every time I type “were” (including just now!) autocorrect tries to change it to “we’re”. Same with days of the week. So annoying!
Or, on my phone, when I type "Well," it will automatically correct to "we'll." And I always say, out loud (as if it can hear me), "No. I mean to use 'well.'"
I have the opposite problem. I want “we’re” and get “were!”
How about THAR when you try to type "that".
That's my biggest peeve....just sounds so stupid!
Back in my admin days, I could always tell (and still can!) whether someone wrote a memo/letter/email and just sent/posted it, used SpellCheck, or actually proofread their work!
Mrs. "the Knife"
That always annoys me too! I gloss over Jeff’s typos because I know he has a limited time to write and proofread but see these kinds of errors all over the place and it drives me nuts 😩 (and not nut’s 😆)
Jeff is not the only intelligent professional doing this... it has become almost standard use these days, the aggravation of which I share with you!
I’ve found one cannot determine intelligence by spelling/grammatical errors.
I certainly hope Einstein got his theory correct and didn’t have an error 😂
Ditto and amen!
Mrs. "the Knife"
Somebody call Mr. Language Person!
(Anyone else remember those hilarious Dave Barry columns?)
No but it sounds right up my alley; I'll look that up!
Please be kind when reminding...I might be a project for you...:)
They used to run his column in our local paper back in the day. Lots of LOLOL!!!
Thank you SO much! I'd love to add a couple of suggestions re commas ....
How about PARAGRAPHS!
I remember those! Here's one substacker who uses them, and very well: https://open.substack.com/pub/jupplandia/p/the-self-love-in-group-hate?r=q4die&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
Also James Delingpole. Love his writing.
Jeff isn't writing essays, though so he's cleared of blame here.
I have a hard time reading a post without paragraphs.
Sometimes I skip it out of principle.
Go for it!
Thank's for the reminder!
Welcome!
Thanks. I needed that. 😀. I hate finding those apostrophes on my tiny device anyway.
🤜
Didn’t know there was a fist bump. Thanks!
🤜🤛
😉
Better!
✔️
Although, since it became a thing to avoid shaking hands - ack, germs! - I may not find it too useful.
Agreed.
The autocorrect does it for me & I forgot to proofread
Yeah, proofreading's a must (apostrophe here because it's a contraction of "proofreading is"... same as "it's). The crazy thing about "it's" is that when that little word is meant as possessive, we drop the comma. English is complicated!
Seeing “it’s” and “its” used incorrectly is one of my top language pet peeves. Another is seeing “lead” (rhymes with fed) used as the past tense of the verb “lead” (rhymes with feed), instead of the correct “led”. Feed/fed, bleed/bled, lead/led. But then there’s read/read (not red). Ah, English!
So "it is" should be "it's"?
Yes. Where as "its fur" has no apostrophe, even though the fur belongs to "it" so it normally should.
Thank you!
What's the other exceptions?
Well, "yours" and "ours" come to mind. Theirs, too. No apostrophes.
Yeah I remember those.
But no apostrophes with pronouns?
Sure: he's (he is) she's (she is)
THANK YOU!! This punctuation error makes my eyes hurt! Unfortunately, spelling, grammar, and punctuation errors leap off the page, almost like grains of sand irritating my eyes and brain.
On the flip side, if someone who does well at math looked over my math scribblings (plural, just add the "s"), I am sure they (the scribblings) would burn out his/her retinas. 😂🤣
Mrs. "the Knife"
Arithmetic is about the extent of my math skills, decades after having had to do algebra and worse!
But you're right about how writing errors "leap off the page"! I do make these sorts of comments/corrections from time to time, and always get a few deriding me for being so picky or what have you. I just shrug, because they don't have a clue. Actually, it's as if a musician just randomly dropped the rules of musical notation yet still expected others to accurately reproduce the sound he had intended.
Someone has had too many coffee's today...or not enough.
You don't think punctuation matters, eh? COFFEES NOT COFFEE'S
I've had just the right amount of coffee as usual, thanks.
I do know that commas matter - "Let's eat, grandma!" vs. Let's eat grandma!" And commas can get expensive! https://proofed.com/writing-tips/5-expensive-comma-typos-history/
Great example... like the book "Eats, Shoots, and Leaves"!
Let's all replace our 4.5 readers with 1.0 readers.
And, yes, the apostrophe belongs. ROFL
You replied to my comment but I don’t see even on apostrophe in my comment???
What comment, Rose? I don't see it or a reply from me. My original comment was a stand alone to everyone at large.
Thanks for the chuckle, Dave! I love the image of that "heap of apostrophes".
Trump...claiming he can't testify because of the gag order. That's a gem. No more fake meat in Florida? Gates isn't a happy camper. And that is great news.
Maybe he can use sign language. He would still be technically gagged.
The ACOG turned their back on the obvious harm to pregnant women. Disgusting 🤮. https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/american-college-obstetricians-gynecologists-push-covid-shots-pregnant-women/
That group is plain evil. Arguably the leader of the current child sacrifice program.
Yes sadly
Yes so many push useless and even harmful interventions on pregnant or laboring women and treat them like science experiments and cash cows 😡
Brandon is not your bro, are you in Florida?
No the Great Lakes 😬
That is truly disgusting. I hope OBs are brave enough to at least support a womans right to say no.
Cohen is probably one of hundreds of DT lawyers. Media always says “Trump’s Lawyer”. Well, DT has an army of them and so it’s not unusual to have a few weirdo employees when you run massive businesses.
The same thing is happening today with regard to Trump Media's auditor being fined by the SEC.
Edit - headlines written to imply Trump media is the reason for the fine, when they are one of many firms audited by BF Borgers. Down in the body of the articles they will write that there is no allegation of wrongdoing against DJT media or Truth Social. But the headline is "Trump Media’s accounting firm charged with ‘massive fraud’".
Good point.
Go Trump! Go DeSantis! It's great to start the weekend on a positive note!
I ❤️ my Governor.
Wish Florida could become its own country and DeSantis its President!
We can’t all move to FL 😭 I am hoping FL is the example showing what the whole country is going to look like in 2025! I’m glad DeSantis is back 😄
Maybe the conservative southern states can secede?
We tried that once and it didn’t end well.
🤷
Right! We need to stop giving ground and make a stand!
It was at one time! Well, a tiny part for just a couple months.
"The Republic of West Florida, officially the State of Florida, was a short-lived republic for 2+1⁄2 months in 1810."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_West_Florida
We read that in a homeschool history lesson a while back! 😁
I learn all kinds of things from this substack! Now I know that the Republic of West Florida wasn't in the place we call "Florida."
This is the way, actually. Soft secession. The only hitch is Desantis needs more time and he's done in 2026. Florida needs to make him emporer of the Republic of Florida.
It may yet happen.
Where would we put the capital?
Orlando is too libby. I was gonna say Gainesville but it's even more so.
Cross that bridge when we come to it!
I’m sure Representative Johnson would sound the alarm if too many people moved to Florida. After all, with the weight of so many people, it could snap off and tumble into the ocean.
Flashback: Rep. Hank Johnson (D-Ga.) was afraid that the U.S. Territory of Guam would "tip over and capsize" due to overpopulation. (Johnson expressed his worries during a House Armed Services Committee.)
😉
What, that we may all move to Florida?! 😆 /r
Hahaha
Bragg is as well versed at justice as he is at the concept of fasting. The trainwreck of scum witnesses called by the Prostitution are proof positive that the MAIN INTENT of this case IS Election Interference (keeping Trump gagged and in court) and to feed Leftist Media and Voters with fuel for their deranged hate so they do ALL they can to take the 2024 Election on behalf of JB and Dems
Perhaps all Bragg is trying to accomplish is to keep Trump off the campaign trail for a few months leading up to November?
I truly think that they thought they were in a win-win situation. Even if they lose, they’ve kept PDJT off the campaign trail. They *weren’t* counting on the people actually following the trial and recognizing the circus / political lawfare that it is.
I think it’s because a felony conviction will keep PDT from becoming POTUS, even if he is elected. Jeff has yet to weigh in… happily waiting…
Maybe. I’d be more concerned about a D controlled House deciding that an “insurrectionist” could be barred from the presidency.
Oh, what interesting times we live in,
A felony conviction is no impetus to running for POTUS. We've had people run who were IN Federal Prison.
They kept Joepedo off the campaign trail snd look what happened. 😬
That first sentence made me 😆🤣
I've previously questioned the existence of the so-called "variants" as being just more psyops. How can there be variants of a laboratory created, synthetic "pathogen" that is replication defective? Somebody answer me that. Dr. David Martin clearly documented that fact. I postulated that the so-called variants are all laboratory created - just like the original - and are being manually dispersed. My guess is that this is easily accomplished via chemtrail spraying. After all, we are no more than a crop to the elite.
The Japanese have figured it out...........................................
JAPANESE SCIENTISTS FIND INDISPUTABLE EVIDENCE THAT ALL COVID VARIANTS ARE MAN-MADE
A stunning Japanese study that has evolved from preprint to peer-reviewed publication suggests that all COVID-19 variants were engineered in biolabs and intentionally released upon humanity. First released in August 2023, the study, conducted by renowned Japanese virologists Professors Atsushi Tanaka and Takayuki Miyazawa of Osaka Medical University and Kyoto University, affirms that the push to keep COVID around is part of a nefarious deep state scheme to remove our individual freedoms and control us.
https://thehighwire.com/editorial/japanese-scientists-find-indisputable-evidence-that-all-covid-variants-are-man-made/
Yes. If they can make the newest vax, they can make the variant.
Interesting, thank you. That explains a lot about this last full year to date. From my first cold in 8 years to a sore throat, to a mild case of shingles, to three more flu/colds to now something female related going on (just tested, non cancerous). It’s been crazy! The sore throat was right after my woke, likely jabbed nephew visited, it was all downhill from there. My husband passed on all those weird cold/flu things. Two business (two flights) trips, and one brew pub evening. Our CPA was there, found out later he was sick too.
Shedding perhaps, chemtrails, likely, they crisscross our skies on a regular basis.
Thanks for the link Phil. You never disappoint.
Hello from Oregon!
Bizarre isn’t it? I’m rarely sick with a cold or the flu. Odd that you’ve had stomach flu continually.
I get that jabbers are getting sick, not fair that we are!! On we go! 🙃 Hope your friend’s eye problem resolves!
Bio nano weapons
It doesn't seem too implausible that even a lab-created pathogen could mutate once in the wild. That said, the study in the linked article makes a strong argument that at least some variants also came from a lab... most likely it's a mixture of both.
Dr. David Martin documented from their own patents that the lab created thing is "replication defective."
I love living in the United State of Florida ❤️Ending the week on a positive note is awesome. It is also inspiring to see so many college students rising up and showing their patriotism 🇺🇸 Be encouraged! Thank you Jeff.
I'm definitely NOT a Trump guy anymore...but it's hard to argue he isn't being intentionally targeted. It's weaponizing the justice system which is something that is wrong and in a perfect world would blocked.
However, if Trump gets indicted for tearing off the mattress tags in 1998 Hunter deserves a few years in the pen for lying on his 4473 forms and cavorting around with Russian hookers.
So you are writing in Zelensky?
The great pianist. He's got my vote!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbmZrzN3WFE
Awww, jeez! I’ve heard about this (of course), but never actually seen it. Now I can’t unsee it. 😳
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Guve7Y856kY&pp=ygUbdHJ1bXAgbW90b3Jib2F0ZWQgZ2l1bGlhbm5h
Ouch! Harsh burn!
People make fun of Zelenskyy for doing what actors do while Trump did the exact same thing.
Hypocrisy much?
Trump didn't have his pants at his ankles while he plays the piano with his ween.
Zelensky has other disgusting vids where he gay dances, thrusting other men while pumping his junk into the camera.
Meanwhile he skims US taxpayer cash for his $75M mansion and other goodies while he sends White Christian men to their deaths by the hundreds of thousands.
Nope, sitting it out.
Are you writing in Putin?
So you’re voting for Sleepy Joe? It’s Trump or Biden, those are the choices…
Staying home =Biden. RFK=disaster.
Not correct at all.
People repeatedly say we should stay out of the Ukraine war despite the fact without aid Ukraine will lose and Russia will win.
People say things like "I hope both teams have fun", "they're both corrupt!" "Zelensky has **insert number** mansions!"
Why does suddenly that not apply to the race?
Trump is a covid vaccine pushing narcissist who claims it's the best ever.
Why does the narrative change when it's convenient for you?
I’m not voting for Biden either.
Saying how disgusted I am with trump doesn’t mean I’m voting for Biden
What disgusts you about Trump? Just curious.
https://i.postimg.cc/kGW270Pr/IMG-3552.jpg
See above.
Trump loves the clot shot and claims
It’s the best ever.
There you go again, Benji. Banging on that same drum. He also said that that people could MAKE THEIR OWN CHOICE. He gave them the choice. Remember when he got the virus? He advertised that he was given HCQ and in a matter of 2 or 3 days he was recovered? He didn’t mandate the shots; Biden’s administration did.
This entire blog exists because of the covid vaccine trump created.
Trump says the shot is the best ever. Why don't we look at what Trump says?
https://i.postimg.cc/kGW270Pr/IMG-3552.jpg
"The pandemic no longer controls our lives. The vaccines that saved us from Covid are now being used to beat cancer-turning setback into comeback! You're welcome, joe, Nine month approval time vs 12 years it would have taken you!"
What does that sound like?
Come on. What’s your point with this blog’s title? And I must ask you which of any person running for any office doesn’t say something that some rival or the media or - yes, even blogs like this - will run with. I am more interested results than words. I don’t care about his hair; I don’t care about his mean tweets; I don’t care about his name-calling; I don’t care about locker room talk: You get the picture.
If you were as adamant about Fauci…
That’s a good reason. I couldn’t find the date on this though. When did he say this? Recently or when he was still president? Does he still feel this way? If so,that’s concerning for sure…
We recently went on a rant against RFK Jr. being an "anti-vaxxer". He's holding on tight to the miracle vax he feels responsible for. We should all be concerned that he didn't pardon Julian Assange. Both of those things are concerning.
*He recently went on a rant
I know plenty of people who don't think Julian Assange should be pardoned. And Bradley Manning's sentence should not have been commuted.
It was within the last few months, not while he was president. Hard to believe it's been 4 years since the last election. Geez.
Dang, that IS concerning! I’m proudly UN vaxxed, and no president is going to make me get a jab…so what’s your plan for the election?
Sitting it out.
I have no plans to vote for either party.
I refused to get Trump's shot and I refused to get Biden's. It's probably one of the worst medical experiments in human history that people in power willingly pushed and people willingly got and castigated their neighbors for not getting.
During allergy season I always make sure my neighbors take allergy meds so mine works.
I agree with you there. But I’m not sure about not voting…
Exactly. I see another schlep around with the lesser of 2 evils.
Or I can refuse to vote for either evil.
I'm not agonizing about voting, because I'm not at all sure we will be allowed to vote, or if we are, that the duly elected candidate will actually become president. Or, if the duly elected candidate is Trump, that he won't be assassinated. It appears that Disease X might be on the way, necessitating lockdowns, more mail-in ballots and all that nonsense.
Well, if any of those things happen, we can always go to Washington, DC and appeal for redress of grievances.
/sarcasm-off
Come what may, I refuse to place my hope in men.
There is that. I guess I’ll know in November.
I used to have a trump flag..I got super disillusioned with all the evidence coming out and showing how bad the shots are and trump still supports them.
Come on dude, you're supposed to be better than this.
I hear ya. There is NO WAY I will vote for Biden. I was a democrat but I feel politically marooned since 2021. Bidens sinister threats aimed at those of us who refused the shots and his mandates sealed the deal. I will never forget nor forgive.
I just want both sides to have fun :)
https://www.jillstein2024.com/
I do like some of her positions, like 'don't ban tiktoc' and 'stop the gaza genocide'. Pretty all the rest is LGBT and green nonsense.
Actually, I don't think how any of us vote will matter. See: https://www.omega4america.com/
I've sent three emails to my local GOP about this website and what their fractal technology could do to clean up voter rolls and also ensure votes don't come from illegal addresses. Response: crickets.
Maybe assuming your GOP folks understand what you sent is the problem? Are you giving them too much credit?😉😉
Well, I guess postcards and robocalls are the tried-and-true method...
Or Netanyahu?
A solid choice. He knows how to run things.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2010/7/18/netanyahu-us-easily-manipulated
"Netanyahu was dismissive of the United States, calling it easily manipulated.
“I know what America is,” Netanyahu said. “America is a thing you can move very easily, move it in the right direction. They won’t get in the way.”
This is important! Thanks BFM! the unfortunate part is that they are doing it with such ease.
Later Jay
Maybe he's voting for Putin!
Rootin for Putin!
Citizen Satirist, yes. I have no doubt.
Russian covid vaccines when mandated are safe, of course.
Netanyahu would do a better job.
You planning on voting for Putin?
Another corrupt leader like Biden, running his country into the ground.
He's great at leeching funds from others tho.
To be fair, Jeff is still begging for donations on C&C and covid has been going on for 4 years now.
Hardly corrupt. He's a pretty good leader.
Where's Jeff begging? Any donations are for a informative blog from a expert covid-lawyer's perspective, free for 6 of 7 days a week.
Not comparable to the billions stolen from taxpayers to give to the forever leeching nation of Israel, where a desperate Nuttyahoo (like Biden) needs a war to distract from his personal corruption.
Well, not in perfect world would have been blocked. In the USA with our constitution and rule of law, should have never happened. You are definitely thinking in the right direction.
Have you seen O'Keefe's latest video? It may or may not change you're mind but... God Bless those brave citizen undercover ops.
It is sad that with all the EVIDENCE in plain sight nothing at all will happen to anyone involved!!
Meanwhile in Michigan, teachers and other professions are forced into those DEI and gender confused trainings. I'm glad we left that state.
https://youtu.be/8kCt2BK5RtA?si=rew1vuEjozeRQOG0
We left Washington state for those reasons and many more. So far Montana hasn’t been too bad…
I’m from Montana and stuck in WA to stay near grandchildren. Hopefully one day we can either get out of here or won’t need to escape. 😁
Me too Susan! The day the grandkids get to the age where they don’t have time for us, we’re outta commie WA.
Stuck in Oregon due to finances and long to be near grandchildren in Cali.
We did the same as well as being closer to the grandchild. Landed in Helena. You?
I’m in Helena as well!
Have you been through a winter? And is it true that there are huge climate differences in different parts of the state? Kids are considering…
We have been through our first winter. We live on the side of a hill at the base of the Sapphire mountains. The Bitterroot Valley is considered the “pineapple belt “ of Montana. We have a good solid four seasons. My husband and I grew up in Ohio in the 70s-the 90s. So we’re kind of used to cold snowy winters. But after living in gloomy Washington state, even the winters here are brighter, sunnier. Even though it’s cold. The snow started early last October. Locals said it wasn’t normal. We had a mild November and then in December it got cold. We didn’t see much snow after the freak storm in October until January. Then from January till mid March we had lots of snow. The ground was covered almost that whole time. In February we had a big cold snap where it got down to 25 below zero for a week. Locals say it needed to stay that cold for at least 2 weeks. So apparently that’s normal. We have a tractor, so my husband was able to keep driveway clear. We’re in our 50s and we thought it wasn’t that bad. All the snow in the mountains and everywhere was really beautiful. From what I hear, other parts of the state are colder and much drier. We chose the Bitterroot Valley because it wasn’t as dry or cold.
Hope that helps
Thank you SO much! 💐❤️
Even tho we live in commiefornia I am super happy to have met and heard of several families who have oulled their kids out of the indoctrination schools and moved to either homeschool or go Christian, classical teaching! ❤️ We are raising up good Christian leaders for the future.
I have a teacher in the family, she's already totally, supremely uninformed, yet stridently adamant in her viewpoints. Can't defend any of them, so any discussion is terminated with a hyperventilating red faced 'I don't want to talk about politics' reply. Can't ask if she's had the DEI training, wouldn't surprise me that if she has, she took the bait hook, line and sinker. So now fearing if Trump loses she has to fear us going "bloodbath" at a subsequent family gathering, she'll also have to condemn us and the family for the horrible crime of being white.
Love it when I am first to Love C&C!
Right behind!!
It's going to be a great day Dr. Linda....:)
Indeed, it is!
I never received today's email. I had to actually go to the C&C website MANUALLY, then click on today's post. Can you imagine? I need a rest now.
I hope you had a nice rest. : )
The Truth about the Gaza Riots tearing through US campuses
They’re calling for the destruction of America.
https://pulseofisrael.com/2024/05/03/truth-gaza-riots-campuses/
The globalists have weaponized Islam as they have weaponized postmodernism to achieve their goals. Those shots of kids answering the Muslim call to prayer are just flabberghasting. They desperately want us not to see what the actual forces and interests that are at work and instead focus on one side or the other, the binary. All organizational structures, including nations, really have to be re-evaluated as to that they actually are now, as opposed to how we have been conditioned to think of them.
Quick, send more money to Israel!
The Fed is printing as fast as it can, hang on a sec.
But they also want Uber Eats to deliver their paid-for school meals. True loons.
probly why Joeschmo endorses them