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Christy's avatar

First chickens than solar than farming and before you know it you are anarchist who homeschools, raises their own food, barters, invests in gold and silver, does things w out a permit, live off grid , etc🥰🥰🥰

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RandiG's avatar

The solar crap is a farce. I underwrite massive solar farms. Unless you own the panels, you don’t get the Federal tax credits and frankly, if you don’t, it’s not worth it. SO MANY of my neighbors are getting them installed. I did the math for one of them on a lease. I said this ‘GREAT’ deal will cost you $43,000 over 15 years and you don’t get the tax credit. AND the panels don’t last 20-25 years. More like 7-10 years. And then they go in the landfill. She didn’t go forward.

FYI - not all homeowner insurance companies will insure your home if you put solar panels on them. Do some research if you have them. 🙂

I also underwrite wind farms. Another disaster. But the self climbing cranes they have now to help fix them are pretty cool. 😎

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LuAnne's avatar

Ugh. My husband & I road traveled throughout many states this year. We saw once beautiful land, filled for miles & miles with those wind turbines. Are we destroying our environment for the sake of "climate change". Those turbines also kill many birds. Where are all the environmentalists and animal activists?

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Elliemae's avatar

Yes, we drove from Georgia to Colorado to take some things to our son and it was so sad to see our beautiful land littered with those monstrosity windmills. How did we get here. People are so busy virtue-signaling that they don’t do any research of their own. The information and real studies are all there if you just look. Praying for our nation.

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Dee's avatar

My lefty cousin, who years ago made her young kids watch the Al Gore “Inconvenient Truth” movie, thinks the windmills are beautiful. SMH

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Unapologetically Me's avatar

I was one of those moms who dragged my kid to see this film. So embarrassed.

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Dee's avatar

I admire you for admitting it. I’ve admitted that I was totally wrong about Bush and supporting his “War on Terror,” but my lefty family members who supported Al Gore and the climate change agenda, even when most of it (all?) was BS? Crickets.

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Unapologetically Me's avatar

Ha! I'm Canadian. Had no horse in that show, politically.

I was dragging my kid to films, anti-war rallies and reading a lot of "Buzzfeed" at the time though... 😉

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RandiG's avatar

Indoctrination. I can only imagine what our world will look like in 10-20 years.

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consuelo's avatar

We in central Ohio are being swallowed up by gargantuan warehouse buildings. We have a choice of these warehouses (which i guess pay taxes) or section 8 housing (which consumes our taxes). Now we are getting ginormous buildings for Amazon business. We have certainly lost our country to the Globalists just like we are and will lose our food sources and our lives.

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AJ#2's avatar

PA is like that. Absolutely depressing to drive through.One big truck depot.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

My EJ investment broker says Amazon admits to overbuilding these warehouse and now is laying off employees to try to better hit their financial projections. EJ's stance on Amazon stock has always been buy and HOLD. Now, they aren't nearly as adamant about that. Like Walmart, there's rumors that those massive warehouses are being built to store something other than any kind of tangible product, like things that breath and have pulses. All linked underground, too.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

Surrounding counties to mine did not pass the windmill farms a couple of years ago. I have no idea why it wasn't put forth in my county, maybe due to geological makeup of the majority as we kinda sit in a bowl. On election day, I was talking to an older woman that said she and her husband were meeting with "some windmill folks" about installing several windmills on their 300 ac ranch outside of town. I mentioned the noise, the health impacts, the backwards environmental effects, ruining their solitude with the obstruction of the skyline and sunrises/sunsets, and mostly the massive costs that her family will have to shoulder in 20-25 yrs from now, when she's dead and gone. She was totally unaware of any of those things besides the view. She said all they asked was if they lived full time on the property. Like many older folks, they moved "to town" once they started to age, but still run cattle and plant some crops on the property, paying others to run their operation. I had no idea these companies were soliticing private land owners, especially the elderly. What a perfect "mark" they have set up.

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Freebird's avatar

LuAnne, we live in an area with lots of wind and wide open spaces. They are a horrible blight on miles upon miles of otherwise beautiful prairie or farm land. It’s just sickening that so many people have been sold on this worthless venture.

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Christy's avatar

Environmentalists being hypocrites again? Shocking

🙄🙄🙄

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daiva's avatar

Yup. Psy-ops / propaganda consistently prove horrifyingly effective—be it vaxx, wind & solar, gmo'ed crops, or whatever it's next that tptb conspire to shove down our throats. Most ppl willingly accept 😢

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Christy's avatar

“They” are already pushing bugs🤮🤮🤮

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daiva's avatar

See what emojis you naturally produced? In triplicate no less 👌

Hence I dare propose it'll be a step too far. For here psy-op—however overwhelming—meets deep-seated disgust instinct. Kinda unstoppable force vs immovable object.

My cautious bets are on the latter though 😊

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AJ#2's avatar

We were just driving through Northern New England and saw lots of solar panels in fields, wetlands and edges of forests . Can't imagine how many months of the year they produce electricity and and how can anyone look at them and not see how they will disrupt the environment on which they are located. And yes the silence of environmentalists on the bird chopper fans is also deafening. Willful blindness.

That is super interesting about the underwriting.Thanks for sharing!

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KW NORTON's avatar

Passive solar, not active solar. Passive solar is a real thing which stands in contrast to the active solar, wind farm, iPads on wheels nonsense.

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SYFY's avatar

It's easy enough (and way cheaper) to make your own. My grandpa did it back in the 80's using wiring, black paint, and crushed soda cans (as the majority of the project). Worked just fine for him back then.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

[old man voice] What's that you say? Waaaay back in the '80's, by crikey? I remember them days - I was all growed up and had a real job or two."

Jeez, you make it sound like there were still dinosaurs roaming the Earth back then. (There were, but we called them "The Rolling Stones.")

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Karen Bandy's avatar

🤣 when people now say, you know, 20-30 years ago, my mind jumps back to the 70’s and 80’s, not 2000!😁

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

I relate so much to that statement! It's like there's a couple of decades that just don't exist in my non-mathematical brain!😆😆 The only thing that helps is that I had kids in the 80s, so I just have to remember how old they are, to keep track!

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Karen Bandy's avatar

I have to remember some big milestones to remember too! And Talking Heads and Devo! 🤣

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daiva's avatar

😂 Still over here, 'em dinosaurs a-roaming'!

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Julie's avatar

Oooh, I'd love to have the directions on how to make that! 😎

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Christy's avatar

Oh absolutely. We are not connected to the grid and our house is on solar, we own everything. Totally agree the whole solar thing connecting to the grid is a hoax!!!

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RandiG's avatar

Scam! More wealth transferred!

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SB's avatar

Thank you for that info. I didn't realize that if you paid to install them that you don't own the panels. So, you are only paying $43k for installation?

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RandiG's avatar

The $43k was to LEASE them. So, you’d pay your electric bill (my neighbor said it wouldn’t be higher than $140 to provide ‘base load’) PLUS your lease. She said it was about $240 a months for 15 years to lease. 🙄 So, I showed her $240 X 180 months = $43,200 in total payments. $240 PLUS your electric bill if $140 = $380. And her electric bills were not that high. I said when your electric bill exceeds $500, then come back and talk to me.

I swear, these sales people scare the older people into thinking the world is ending for fossil fuel and they MUST buy solar. Meanwhile, the leasing company gets all the tax credits! 🤬

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

With many many days over 100F last summer, I had 3 consecutive months of >$500 electric bills.

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RandiG's avatar

Fred, what is your average bill, not in the summer months?

Here are things to think about, for what it’s worth:

1) do you want to mount these panels on your roof? If you can put them in a field, if you have room, that’s a better bet.

2) how old is your house? Was it built to higher codes to handle the increased weight of the load?

3) check with your homeowners insurance if they’ll even continuing covering your home once the panels are installed. Many carriers have experienced increased fire loads with these panels. And faulty installation has been an issue, as well. Liberty Mutual will not cover a home with solar panels. If they are your carrier and you didn’t tell them about the installation, they will deny your claim if you have a loss. Be mindful of the cascading effects of what you do to your home with insurance. 💡

4) if you lease the panels and stop paying, they will come and remove them. That might be a problem.

5) what will happen if you sell your home? Will this be a + or a -?

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Based Florida Man's avatar

This is the way.

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Christy's avatar

Been doing it for 10 years. Now I know why farmers outlive everyone. Lol. It’s hard work and you are so much healthier 💜

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SB's avatar

Isn't that what the leftist hippies did back in the day? My husband is from CA and we lived there several years. I remember him always talking about anyone north of San Fran as the crunchy granola types. I guess we've also switched roles in this area, we are now the hippies, just as republicans used to always be the ones with big banks in their pockets and now it is the dems.

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KW NORTON's avatar

Yes the crunchy granola types north of San Francisco did sometimes embrace passive solar. But they embraced it an anemic fashion. Those they could well have supported they did not. The crunchy granola revolution fell to a lack of inner strength and a rejection of personal responsibility.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Yup, I miss the flower children of the 60s.

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SadieJay's avatar

Freaks, I tell ya. Just freaks. Thinking they could be self sufficient and schools are evil. Such nonsense! >s<

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Christy's avatar

Lol. My family thought we were nuts🤣

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NeoBob's avatar

Think how cool the earth would be without all those chicken farts.

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