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RandiG's avatar

God bless that nurse who gave saline injections!! 🙏🙏🙏

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DogsLife's avatar

Wouldn't we like to know how those 8600 people are faring? Compared to 8600 injected with the real deal..

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Juliann's avatar

I wonder how many DC posers got saline shots.

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L1's avatar

All of them.

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RandiG's avatar

Of course! 😡

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SusanMc's avatar

Same ones who got their ivermectin

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TrustPeace's avatar

An actual control group!! 😅

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Alfred's avatar

Exactly my thought on this.

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Jon Stephenson's avatar

Yes! Of course she may not have been able to give many their second dose of saline as well, not to mention boosters.

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Horizons's avatar

Just this. I'm sure as soon as she was discovered they emergency-airlifted vaccines to each and every one of those people.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

And a good reason to watch your social media postings that be used against you. A shame one can't have an scientific argument on Facebook anymore.

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Gaye's avatar

Facebook is firmly in the anti-science camp. They probably eat fake meat. So.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

and all got jabbed. probably soon facebook is withoutfacebook

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Gaye's avatar

😉 Or assuming survival, maybe About-facebook? 🤣

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SusanMc's avatar

I doubt that; these so-called progressive do-gooders- holier than thou crowd preach do as I say not as I do.

Rules for thee, not for me.

#hypocrites

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InquizitiveOne's avatar

That’s why I left Fb a year ago. I’m anonymous on Twitter now- @InquizitiveOne- hit me up, friends.

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JSR's avatar

Or just delete them.. best move I ever made

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JSR's avatar

I know if you go back on to either Facebook or messenger you have to start the 30 day waiting period to cancel over again 🙄

Your so right.... hotel California

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Copernicus's avatar

Sooo, you can’t go back to see if your account was actually deleted? Because they actually don’t delete, and then will re-activate, so to speak?

I canceled mine as well, and never wanted to go back to verify it is gone (or as gone as possible) for precisely this concern.

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Dee's avatar

I deleted my account. After 2 months I tried to log in to see if it was really deleted, and it was. Although I’m sure my info is still in the possession of FB, which isn’t much since I posted so little personal info. But they have all my connections to other people which is creepy.

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JSR's avatar

You can go back, but you can not sign on, or go back into your account as far as I know

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

I noticed on Samsung Android phones, you can no longer remove the Facebook app.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

😡 i hate that! Google!

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tjsplace's avatar

There are ways to "De-Google" an Android phone. I find that idea intriguing.

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Dr Linda's avatar

Agreed, although in sone ways that’s an oxymoron.

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Janet's avatar

Agreed. Had facecrap once. Even though I had privacy buttons on I’d get all this stuff from people I frankly could not care less about. People who had Facecrap diarrhea. It’s gone now after I rarely posted or liked anything.

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Runemasque's avatar

I wish I could find a way to write to her with my appreciation of her courage.

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Julie's avatar

She kept her oath to do no harm.

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InquizitiveOne's avatar

I’ll bet you she initially gave them but after she started seeing her patients die, she became suspicious. That’s probably a common scenario.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Probably 8600 minus 6 that are alive and well today thanks to nurse T! Standing ovation.

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Unapologetically Me's avatar

Those 8600 humans were then re-injected with the real stuff, by Good Germans.

Bet your bottom Euro on that.

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Linda Sartain's avatar

Every day I wish that some people I know are in the Control group.

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Bobbi's avatar

I am what we call purebloods. Is that what you mean. Vaxx free.

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SadieJay's avatar

Yes. The unpolluted purebloods.

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

If by control group, you mean uninjected, I'm one!

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Linda Sartain's avatar

No, I mean took the shot but got saline. There had to be some batches that were saline for a Control group around the country.

After all, they were a part of an Experiment. And the govt and pharma has lied to us from the start.

I'm saying certain batches were saline.

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Credenda's avatar

Frankly I’d be shocked if there was ever a concern about any “control group”. It would have worked to their disadvantage in any case, and they demonstrated early on that they had no regard for human life. I think it’s more likely that some who escaped injury likely received degraded material.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

If you read the clinical trial info from Pfizer, there are indeed a placebo AND varying dosages released into the wild for the running concurrently Phase 1, Phase 2 and Phase 3 trials. Early on, I saw a post from a nurse in Italy that had figured out the lot numbers. 01 - placebo, 02 - mild dose, 03 - a heavy dose. She's probably dead or at least unemployed by now.

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Scott Kinghorn's avatar

I believe there are batches of the gene therapy that are worse than others and that seems to be where a lot of the injuries are tracked to some how. But I agree with you there are probably some NS batches.

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SadieJay's avatar

This is going to be a dumb question, but what are you talking about?

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Linda Sartain's avatar

No, I mean took the shot but got saline. There had to be some batches that were saline for a Control group around the country.

After all, they were a part of an Experiment. And the govt and pharma has lied to us from the start.

I'm saying certain batches were saline.

I've read that the batches[lots] varied in makeup. Their wasn't consistancy among the batches .

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There was tremendous inconsistency but I recently read an interesting hypothesis … the vials are wildly shelf UNstable like a minute out if the cooler and that s** starts falling apart … I read a theory that perhaps the properly handled vials delivered in tact lethal doses and the compromised doses were less damaging. Interesting … I’ve also read that the LNPs do not coat evenly or easily and perhaps shoddy manufacturing prevented mRNA payloads from being fully delivered to cells … so that bad quality control processes might be SAVING lives this time …

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Gabriella's avatar

Lord, let this be true.

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Gabriella's avatar

I sure hope so for 2 of my adult kids, but they both got 3 shots so some were probably the real shit. Or my one hope & prayers is maybe they chose certain areas/cities that ALL shots were saline…for a control group🙏

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Kitkat's avatar

Although I think Gruesome Gav Newsom got slipped at least one dose of the real deal. As he disappeared for awhile least year and reportedly had Bells Palsy or G-B syndrome. So maybe he's not as golden as he thought he was.

https://www.theburningplatform.com/2021/11/09/gavin-newsom-is-out-of-sight-likely-because-he-has-guillain-barre-syndrome-from-his-booster-shot/

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SB's avatar

Yep, I want to hug her.

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Patricia Woodard's avatar

I hope there were other good nurses who did the same but didn't get caught.

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AM's avatar

Who else is happy when Jeff's column drops right as the coffee is finished brewing? :)

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Dr Linda's avatar

I live sitting down for my first cuppa and find C&C on my in box. The day officially has started

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GoodGrief-239's avatar

My intermittent fasting schedule is run by C&C 😆

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RunningLogic's avatar

That’s like the best things in life coming together all at one time! 😁

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AM's avatar

Exactly!!

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Runemasque's avatar

More about Japanese scientist from yesterday's C and C post :

Japanese professor Masanori Fukushima is a distinguished expert and author who has published articles on biomedical research and translation medicine. He is the director and chairman of the Translational Research Center for Medical Innovation and the Foundation for Biomedical Research and Innovation at Kobe. Masanori has over three decades of experience as an oncologist and to top it off, he is Professor Emeritus at Kyoto University.

In a heated meeting with officials, the Professor gave his opinion on the dangers of Covid vaccines and how science has been supressed:

"Given the wide range of adverse events, billions of lives could ultimately be in danger.

First, the vaccine was scientifically misconceived. So, in 2020 I immediately translated the Chinese guidelines as soon as they arrived from China, to use the steroids as appropriately as possible. So I announced it. But I had no ears to hear me.

However, the Japanese doctors are excellent so I soon realised that the steroids needed to be used immediately and I released the guidelines around June, after which the death rate dropped dramatically. Before the vaccine. So anyone inciting this vaccine without any academic acumen is to be condemned.

The harm caused by vaccines is now a worldwide problem. Here is an article recently published, shall we read it? Given the large number of people who have received vaccinations and given the wide range of adverse events, billions of lives could ultimately be in danger.

We urge public health agencies to acknowledge or substantiate the issues raised in this document that are relevant to public health. Recognise them and act accordingly. Also ensure that all individuals make their own decisions on the matter. Medical assistance using this information as a contributing factor in their decision making.

We encourage you to make your own healthcare decisions. I have translated the full text of this document and distributed it, so please read it carefully.

And one more thing: half of them died of cardiovascular and heart problems after vaccination. I’m sure you know this all too well. Alpha, Beta, Gamma…what idiocy…a bunch of incompetent scholars who cannot be called scholars…a total disregard for science and medicine.

This should never happen again. We are a country of science and technology, aren’t we? What the hell…by ignoring science and medicine you are somehow letting the healthcare system collapse. In fact, look at how many sudden cardiovascular deaths there are.

Everyone who has received this vaccine and whose blood pressure has risen is because of the vaccine. Nearly 2,000 people died…but I think this number is much higher. Most of them fall asleep crying. Don’t overlook written reports if anything is found in an autopsy. What are you doing? You can’t help but want to hide it. This is a case of drug harm.

Mr. Kawada suffered greatly. Therefore, we will eradicate drug harm risks at all costs. This country has learned its lesson about drug harm and has become a country that will never suffer drug harm again.

But you forcefully ignore it and you spend trillions of Yen importing vaccines for this country and inciting the population, so it’s not good at all. Last year I thought it would be a problem if this vaccine spread and I decided it was delusional to think a vaccine would fix the pandemic. In professional magazines the misunderstanding has finally come to light and now it is understood how dangerous it is.

Wrap the mRNA into nanoparticles. Every cell engulfs its and the cells transform. This is what I know now. The mechanism is clear. Immediately dissolve the evaluation committee and investigate all cases. This is the conclusion. An investigation into all cases.

And all those who have fallen ill after being vaccinated should not delay informing their medical institution. Don’t be slow. Not sure what will happen. Cardiovascular disease, autoimmune disease, susceptibility to infection and on coming to the brain the nanoparticles are absorbed by the brain. A stupid scientist would say, “they can’t cross the blood barrier, so it’s okay”. I mean I’m not a fool.

It can suppress natural immunity. That’s why it didn’t spread in Japan at first because they had IGa (salivary immunoglobulin A) in their saliva and they have his kind of resistance to the coronavirus. However, due to vaccination, natural immunity has been suppressed.

This is what happened. I don’t think it will subside at all. It will spread more and more. Most people already have post-vaccination infections. The people who have the disease right now are not the ones who haven’t been vaccinate but the ones who have been vaccinated.

The data presented by the Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare speak for themselves. I delivered them all.

Please answer tomorrow. Report it properly to the newspapers and the press and to all of them.

However, now the danger is being reported all over the world."

https://supersally.substack.com/p/japanese-emeritus-professor-at-kyoto?utm_source=substack&utm_campaign=post_embed&utm_medium=web

https://nakedemperor.substack.com/p/professor-emeritus-at-kyoto-university?utm_source=substack&utm_campaign=post_embed&utm_medium=web

https://youtu.be/F2V0PhBf_A0

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Verve's avatar

This destruction of humanity was by design. It’s hard to wrap our minds around such evil intent, but the more we push forward to destroy the vaccine narrative, the more we will need to develop protocols to help those who are affected and tricked into being injured. As more doctors come forward from all corners of the globe, we will create an even larger parallel system of true medical help. I pity the health care providers who jumped in to the jab narrative with both feet. Not sure what their future is. Runmasque you may like to view the recent Dr McCullough and Dr Mahotra presentation from Vacsafety.org recent conference, it was excellent.

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ShortLeggedDog's avatar

There is a great version of this full speech on Dr Malhotra’s you tube channel. I watched it while cooking Thanksgiving dinner. It has cleaner video if you are sharing. This is a great piece to wake up the normies. https://youtu.be/vw7YXUZ1SL0

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Shortleggeddog, totally off subject but did you see my answer about corgis? Yes! Have had them, have one now 😊

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ShortLeggedDog's avatar

Sometimes the app on iOS takes me to the comments section but not to the exact reply post and then I can't find it. Seems to work without issue on the web version.

yay! Best dogs ever!!

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Karen Bandy's avatar

It does act funny sometimes 😉

Corgis act funny sometimes too 🤣

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Verve's avatar

Thank you!

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Crixcyon's avatar

As an anti-vaxxer, I assume ALL vaccines are unsafe. I see no proof otherwise.

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Tracy's avatar

I wasn't an anti-vaxer but really saw no need for them in the past so always refused. Now I'm definitely one. No trust in any of them. We have no clue what's being put in the others now.

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John Bugni's avatar

Multiple books, most of which I have read, supporting your premise. None are safe and effective. NONE!

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Thank you for providing these links. I have a file where I keep all valuable information regarding Covid related material and this is definitely something to add. We need more healthcare professionals who are willing to speak out and educate the masses on what’s going on. It’s hard for me to fathom that so many people remain willfully ignorant, especially those in the healthcare profession. They are without excuse.

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Anne Clifton's avatar

I challenged my now former doctor on this when I got a message saying it was time for a wellness check up. I asked if they are still pushing the vaccines and refusing to accept the reality of the harm. They sent me a link to their website, which had absolute lies about the vaccines. I checked the other two major hospital groups in my area and found they did also. How can I trust doctors who still spew this nonsense?

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Ya can't. The hypocrisy and cowardice of the medical providers knows no bounds.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

You can’t. Look for alternative healthcare and be well informed!

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Credenda's avatar

Wouldn’t it be great to have a doctor like Ryan Cole? Yeah, I know he’s a pathologist but integrity trumps speciality. I trust him.

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Copernicus's avatar

Pathologists are crazy smart people. Crazy smart. And absolutely yes, I don’t care as much about specialty as brains AND integrity.

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John Bugni's avatar

Find a "Functional Physician/Doctor" FLCCC.org will refer you to one by zipcode.

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Runemasque's avatar

I keep a file too. That's why I figured an updated and thorough citation would help. I have a Heroes file for courageous action and another for doctors and professionals speaking out, amongst others. Now, if only my own family would be capable to look at any of this without refusing to even look because Google gave them a fact check which says they shouldn't pay any attention.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

I organized a group of people in my community who are like minded regarding Covid and I send out articles and information with data several times a week. I have alot of the therapeutics on hand and have shared with several friends and family who were caught off guard and needed it. None of them needed to see a physician or go to the hospital and they didn’t have serious co-morbidities so they all recovered. We really need to band together and help each other out in these times.

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Runemasque's avatar

I really admire that you are doing this. I wish to have a better network, but I don't.

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Copernicus's avatar

I struggle with what articles to print for hard copy (will never “go away”) vs save on my PC vs save a bookmarked link. There are so many good items. And often I am reading forums like this on a device and not my PC, and then later it is more effort to look it up on my PC for saving there. Sigh.

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Runemasque's avatar

I am using OneNote for keeping all of my research together by topic. In 2020 I started using Google Docs with different sections, but somehow I am locked out of it now for some violation that I don't understand. So far OneNote works, but I don't think I could print out lots of stuff. I recognize that everything can get easily disappeared.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Interesting how the steroid treatments worked.

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Runemasque's avatar

I don't know, but I figured maybe that was a reference to the budesonide?

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Good point. Here from Dr. Zelenko's work, budesonide is mentioned (page 2 and 3).

https://bird-group.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/vz-protocols-v2-1.pdf

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Debbie Alton's avatar

I miss Dr. Zelenko. His voice saved many.

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JW's avatar

Or prednisone.

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SadieJay's avatar

Someone on here, the other day, when Jeff posted the Died Suddenly link said that there were some inaccurate portrayals, such as those dropping dead that could be tied to events that had nothing to do with the pandemic. They said it was a mistake and that it causes lack of credibility. But, at least they are talking about it.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

"at least they're talking about it."

Agreed, Sadie. I'm highly skeptical of Stew Peters, but yours is a very good point. At least it is getting airplay, and maybe some normies will look into the dangers of the death jab.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

But, by including footage such as the removal of a clot from a beating heart that was from 2018, it severely damaged the entire antivax movement and the reputations of all involved. Steve Kirsch's defense is "don't throw out the baby with the bath water". Well, any journalist putting out any information should realize that including misinformation in something that runs against the narrative, will be found and exposed. "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me". In today's time, no one knows what to believe anymore. As a follow up to Stew Peters "snake venom in the water" theory, (which really turned many people off, as that theory is fraught with unexplainable holes), there's rumblings that Stew is controlled opposition, and these things are done on purpose, to get others to dismiss the entire idea. Like a counter psy-op. I was sorely disappointed that ANY misinformation or untruths were included in the show. I mean, there's plenty of true factual information that's out there, proven beyond doubt, there's no reason to pad the story, unless you're just looking for shock value. And dishonest shock value allows the fact-checkers some pretty good ammo to take the entire story down and reach the people who need to be reached.

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Dr Linda's avatar

Thank you for this! Very well presented

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Politico Phil's avatar

Thank you for your post. Everyone go to the nakedemperor link provided by Runemasque and scroll down to the second video, 2.4 minutes long. Not to be missed. Fukushima goes OFF and leaves no stone unturned.

https://nakedemperor.substack.com/p/professor-emeritus-at-kyoto-university?utm_source=substack&utm_campaign=post_embed&utm_medium=web

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lynn's avatar

wish this would happen in USA

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RunningLogic's avatar

Wow. Powerful.

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DAM on the beach's avatar

Thank you for sharing that, running logic. 

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RunningLogic's avatar

Can’t take credit for it 😉 That goes to Runemasque!

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Jon Stephenson's avatar

Thanks for this. I didnt realize at first that most of this is a transcript of the Dr's video.

I love it, but honestly his speech sounds a little disjointed. I'm assuming it comes off better in the original Japanese.

E.g. "Most of them fall asleep crying. Don’t overlook written reports if anything is found in an autopsy. What are you doing? You can’t help but want to hide it. This is a case of drug harm."

Most of them fall asleep crying. So Japanese, I don't know what it means, but I love it!

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

Yeah, sometimes it's tough to translate perfectly. I still understood what he was saying. God bless him! So strong!

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

Thank you for this

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Christy's avatar

First chickens than solar than farming and before you know it you are anarchist who homeschools, raises their own food, barters, invests in gold and silver, does things w out a permit, live off grid , etc🥰🥰🥰

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RandiG's avatar

The solar crap is a farce. I underwrite massive solar farms. Unless you own the panels, you don’t get the Federal tax credits and frankly, if you don’t, it’s not worth it. SO MANY of my neighbors are getting them installed. I did the math for one of them on a lease. I said this ‘GREAT’ deal will cost you $43,000 over 15 years and you don’t get the tax credit. AND the panels don’t last 20-25 years. More like 7-10 years. And then they go in the landfill. She didn’t go forward.

FYI - not all homeowner insurance companies will insure your home if you put solar panels on them. Do some research if you have them. 🙂

I also underwrite wind farms. Another disaster. But the self climbing cranes they have now to help fix them are pretty cool. 😎

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LuAnne's avatar

Ugh. My husband & I road traveled throughout many states this year. We saw once beautiful land, filled for miles & miles with those wind turbines. Are we destroying our environment for the sake of "climate change". Those turbines also kill many birds. Where are all the environmentalists and animal activists?

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Elliemae's avatar

Yes, we drove from Georgia to Colorado to take some things to our son and it was so sad to see our beautiful land littered with those monstrosity windmills. How did we get here. People are so busy virtue-signaling that they don’t do any research of their own. The information and real studies are all there if you just look. Praying for our nation.

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Dee's avatar

My lefty cousin, who years ago made her young kids watch the Al Gore “Inconvenient Truth” movie, thinks the windmills are beautiful. SMH

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Unapologetically Me's avatar

I was one of those moms who dragged my kid to see this film. So embarrassed.

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Dee's avatar

I admire you for admitting it. I’ve admitted that I was totally wrong about Bush and supporting his “War on Terror,” but my lefty family members who supported Al Gore and the climate change agenda, even when most of it (all?) was BS? Crickets.

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Unapologetically Me's avatar

Ha! I'm Canadian. Had no horse in that show, politically.

I was dragging my kid to films, anti-war rallies and reading a lot of "Buzzfeed" at the time though... 😉

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RandiG's avatar

Indoctrination. I can only imagine what our world will look like in 10-20 years.

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consuelo's avatar

We in central Ohio are being swallowed up by gargantuan warehouse buildings. We have a choice of these warehouses (which i guess pay taxes) or section 8 housing (which consumes our taxes). Now we are getting ginormous buildings for Amazon business. We have certainly lost our country to the Globalists just like we are and will lose our food sources and our lives.

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AJ#2's avatar

PA is like that. Absolutely depressing to drive through.One big truck depot.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

My EJ investment broker says Amazon admits to overbuilding these warehouse and now is laying off employees to try to better hit their financial projections. EJ's stance on Amazon stock has always been buy and HOLD. Now, they aren't nearly as adamant about that. Like Walmart, there's rumors that those massive warehouses are being built to store something other than any kind of tangible product, like things that breath and have pulses. All linked underground, too.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

Surrounding counties to mine did not pass the windmill farms a couple of years ago. I have no idea why it wasn't put forth in my county, maybe due to geological makeup of the majority as we kinda sit in a bowl. On election day, I was talking to an older woman that said she and her husband were meeting with "some windmill folks" about installing several windmills on their 300 ac ranch outside of town. I mentioned the noise, the health impacts, the backwards environmental effects, ruining their solitude with the obstruction of the skyline and sunrises/sunsets, and mostly the massive costs that her family will have to shoulder in 20-25 yrs from now, when she's dead and gone. She was totally unaware of any of those things besides the view. She said all they asked was if they lived full time on the property. Like many older folks, they moved "to town" once they started to age, but still run cattle and plant some crops on the property, paying others to run their operation. I had no idea these companies were soliticing private land owners, especially the elderly. What a perfect "mark" they have set up.

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Freebird's avatar

LuAnne, we live in an area with lots of wind and wide open spaces. They are a horrible blight on miles upon miles of otherwise beautiful prairie or farm land. It’s just sickening that so many people have been sold on this worthless venture.

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Christy's avatar

Environmentalists being hypocrites again? Shocking

🙄🙄🙄

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daiva's avatar

Yup. Psy-ops / propaganda consistently prove horrifyingly effective—be it vaxx, wind & solar, gmo'ed crops, or whatever it's next that tptb conspire to shove down our throats. Most ppl willingly accept 😢

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Christy's avatar

“They” are already pushing bugs🤮🤮🤮

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daiva's avatar

See what emojis you naturally produced? In triplicate no less 👌

Hence I dare propose it'll be a step too far. For here psy-op—however overwhelming—meets deep-seated disgust instinct. Kinda unstoppable force vs immovable object.

My cautious bets are on the latter though 😊

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AJ#2's avatar

We were just driving through Northern New England and saw lots of solar panels in fields, wetlands and edges of forests . Can't imagine how many months of the year they produce electricity and and how can anyone look at them and not see how they will disrupt the environment on which they are located. And yes the silence of environmentalists on the bird chopper fans is also deafening. Willful blindness.

That is super interesting about the underwriting.Thanks for sharing!

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KW NORTON's avatar

Passive solar, not active solar. Passive solar is a real thing which stands in contrast to the active solar, wind farm, iPads on wheels nonsense.

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SYFY's avatar

It's easy enough (and way cheaper) to make your own. My grandpa did it back in the 80's using wiring, black paint, and crushed soda cans (as the majority of the project). Worked just fine for him back then.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

[old man voice] What's that you say? Waaaay back in the '80's, by crikey? I remember them days - I was all growed up and had a real job or two."

Jeez, you make it sound like there were still dinosaurs roaming the Earth back then. (There were, but we called them "The Rolling Stones.")

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Karen Bandy's avatar

🤣 when people now say, you know, 20-30 years ago, my mind jumps back to the 70’s and 80’s, not 2000!😁

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

I relate so much to that statement! It's like there's a couple of decades that just don't exist in my non-mathematical brain!😆😆 The only thing that helps is that I had kids in the 80s, so I just have to remember how old they are, to keep track!

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Karen Bandy's avatar

I have to remember some big milestones to remember too! And Talking Heads and Devo! 🤣

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daiva's avatar

😂 Still over here, 'em dinosaurs a-roaming'!

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Julie's avatar

Oooh, I'd love to have the directions on how to make that! 😎

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Christy's avatar

Oh absolutely. We are not connected to the grid and our house is on solar, we own everything. Totally agree the whole solar thing connecting to the grid is a hoax!!!

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RandiG's avatar

Scam! More wealth transferred!

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SB's avatar

Thank you for that info. I didn't realize that if you paid to install them that you don't own the panels. So, you are only paying $43k for installation?

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RandiG's avatar

The $43k was to LEASE them. So, you’d pay your electric bill (my neighbor said it wouldn’t be higher than $140 to provide ‘base load’) PLUS your lease. She said it was about $240 a months for 15 years to lease. 🙄 So, I showed her $240 X 180 months = $43,200 in total payments. $240 PLUS your electric bill if $140 = $380. And her electric bills were not that high. I said when your electric bill exceeds $500, then come back and talk to me.

I swear, these sales people scare the older people into thinking the world is ending for fossil fuel and they MUST buy solar. Meanwhile, the leasing company gets all the tax credits! 🤬

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

With many many days over 100F last summer, I had 3 consecutive months of >$500 electric bills.

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RandiG's avatar

Fred, what is your average bill, not in the summer months?

Here are things to think about, for what it’s worth:

1) do you want to mount these panels on your roof? If you can put them in a field, if you have room, that’s a better bet.

2) how old is your house? Was it built to higher codes to handle the increased weight of the load?

3) check with your homeowners insurance if they’ll even continuing covering your home once the panels are installed. Many carriers have experienced increased fire loads with these panels. And faulty installation has been an issue, as well. Liberty Mutual will not cover a home with solar panels. If they are your carrier and you didn’t tell them about the installation, they will deny your claim if you have a loss. Be mindful of the cascading effects of what you do to your home with insurance. 💡

4) if you lease the panels and stop paying, they will come and remove them. That might be a problem.

5) what will happen if you sell your home? Will this be a + or a -?

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Based Florida Man's avatar

This is the way.

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Christy's avatar

Been doing it for 10 years. Now I know why farmers outlive everyone. Lol. It’s hard work and you are so much healthier 💜

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SB's avatar

Isn't that what the leftist hippies did back in the day? My husband is from CA and we lived there several years. I remember him always talking about anyone north of San Fran as the crunchy granola types. I guess we've also switched roles in this area, we are now the hippies, just as republicans used to always be the ones with big banks in their pockets and now it is the dems.

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KW NORTON's avatar

Yes the crunchy granola types north of San Francisco did sometimes embrace passive solar. But they embraced it an anemic fashion. Those they could well have supported they did not. The crunchy granola revolution fell to a lack of inner strength and a rejection of personal responsibility.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Yup, I miss the flower children of the 60s.

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SadieJay's avatar

Freaks, I tell ya. Just freaks. Thinking they could be self sufficient and schools are evil. Such nonsense! >s<

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Christy's avatar

Lol. My family thought we were nuts🤣

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NeoBob's avatar

Think how cool the earth would be without all those chicken farts.

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RandiG's avatar

Jeff, I’ll be your first customer to buy any eggs or chicken from your ranch. The thought of eating lab grown meat (approved by the FDA) is disgusting. 🤢 I’d rather chew ground glass!! 👍

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You must have to be built on farm life. Every animal I raised ended up with a name and I realized I could never eat. So, I thought, well fish aren't very prone to names, so I had a pond dug and stocked it. Then I started naming them too...I had this really big catfish. Oh well.

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🤣 you named them all wrong! The pigs are Bacon, Loin, BBQ, the cows are Filet Mignon, Delicious, Italian Beef and the chickens are SweetnSour, Nugget, etc. And outting them in the freezer helps loose the attachment, i never could eat the goat though. 😜

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Jaye's avatar

My husband, a city kid, had a friend in college who raised cattle. He innocently asked what she'd named them and was told "First Semester, Second Semester..."

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DogsLife's avatar

Yeah, my neighbors -real farmers- had those kind of names. I spent too much time looking in eyes and talking to them. The neighbors were much busier than me. (I even gave my two heifers last names on one slow day. Ruby and Pearl became Ruby Slippers and Pearl Buttons and they will always be so.) One of the roosters that had to go stayed in the freezer, along with a leg of Patrick the ram, until I moved. Never could...never.

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When I was a child, I was given a brown feathered pet chicken to take care of. She was precious. I carried her around, and she would follow me, to be petted.

My chicken mysteriously "flew away" one day. Broke my heart. Next day, my mom made chicken. Didn't make the connection until I was older.

Came home from school one day and my adorable white pet rabbit was hanging upside down by his back legs, on a branch of our plum tree. He blinked at me.

My dad was sharpening a knife. I screamed and begged amd pleaded with him. He laughed.

I ran to the pond and cried myself to sleep. Hid in the tall weeds until dark.

The following day my mom served up a skinless "chicken" but I was not so easily fooled that time. I refused my plate of dinner.

That was over 54 years ago. Some childhood trauma is never forgotten.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Dang, that's heavy. Thanks for sharing.

We really should say a deep felt prayer of thanks every time we consume an animal.

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CarO Lyn's avatar

45 years ago, living on a farm in far western Kansas I raised two pigs. Named them Pork and Beans. They were quite delicious.

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Christy's avatar

Lol when we first moved to the farm the kids named the animals. That didn’t last long.

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Kim's avatar

Absolutely, as one raised on a farm, I never had a problem eating them!

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JW's avatar

We also have an egg crew of 15 girls. We did get 20 chicks, cornish cross breed, and raised them for food. They are not personality birds and you feed them for 6 to 8 weeks and then must process them as they grow so large they cannot move around. These are what you buy in the stores. We purchased a plucking machine that removes feathers in 29 seconds. We know what our chickens ate so we know what we eat. Takes a little getting use to but is much safer than what the large producers sell you. Nothing is better than free range eggs!

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Gigi Gummerson's avatar

My friend delivers eggs to me every couple of weeks, I just LOVE getting these beautiful eggs, the colors are crazy! I now get the Green Eggs and Ham...my favorite are the green ones❤️

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Freebird's avatar

I WISH we could have chickens! I’d love to raise them and have my own eggs. We live in the country with so many predators, foxes and coyotes - we’d have to build a fortress for hens!

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JW's avatar

We live in N GA mountains and have every kind of chicken eating creature. We made a coop with an auto door and small wire siding . We used foam caulking in all cracks to keep snakes and minks out. Then built a 4 board pen around the coop and put hogwire on it all the way up. Then we trained our 3 german shepherds to protect them. Years have gone by and the only loss was an escaped rooster that an owl had for dinner, or we assume an owl. Ways to critter proof.

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Freebird's avatar

You built a great fortress! 😂

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JW's avatar

You really do need a fortress but once done it is great.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

I'm currently fighting off a hawk stalking my chickens. Yesterday, he dropped SOMEONE ELSE'S CHICKEN in my yard! I was floored and have no idea where this chicken came from. This morning, I heard my rooster giving his "alert" crow, looked out the window and this hawk is literally sitting on the top of the run fence! Hubs has a high powered pellet rifle and tagged him good. He didn't kill it, but we doubt he'll be back. I really recommend getting a rooster, if possible. As long as they aren't aggressive to humans, they are great protectors of their ladies. So far, my boy has done a great job.

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Kim's avatar

We did and it works!

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Jill's avatar

That's fine, you don't want to eat egg-layer chickens anyway. They are literally a different breed than meat chickens. There's only like 2lb of meat on a egg-layer bird vs. 5lb on a meat bird. And it's much tougher due to being 2+ years old...

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Willing Spirit's avatar

They go in the stew pot for dumplings

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Kim's avatar

Yes, it works. The crockpot does wonders!

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

In tough times, meat is meat. It's the way you cook it that makes a huge difference.

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Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

My hens hatch several broods of eggs every summer. The pullets are kept for eggs and the roosters go in the pot. I don’t fry them because they are tougher than store bought chickens, but I run them through the pressure cooker, eat them with dumplings or casseroles, then use the bone broth for soups.

Chicken is chicken. That stuff the FDA is trying to feed us is poison.

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Douglas A Corrigan's avatar

First rule of farming. Don't name your animals. They are not pets they are food.

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Diane C.'s avatar

Yup, when we had chickens for a few years, I couldn't eat chicken anymore. They have funny personalities; One-eyed Wilma was my favorite. The rooster, though, was darn right ornery. But he sure protected the hens.

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I have chickens, raised from day old chicks. I view them as loving breakfast producers now. I love them, they all have names and I'm constantly protecting them from predators, mainly the damn federally protected hawks. My chickens are literally spoiled rotten and I spend a lot of time, too much really, tending to them. They eat all of our leftovers and I get the "imperfect" fruit and veggies boxes from our grocery store. I hate to cook, but spend an inordinate amount of time slicing, dicing and shredding this produce into bite sized pieces. The extra gets frozen in single layers, then bagged so distribution later will be easier pouring the pieces out like cereal rather than one big frozen glob. BUT, I know that if push comes to shove, they could possibly/will probably become dinner one day. This would indeed make me very sad but knowing they lived their best life and ate a good diet would help. There's a disconnect that I HAD to put in place in my mind before I even got them. I read a book called "One Second After" about an EMP hitting earth, where the people traded their pets (dogs) for food as they couldn't eat their own. I want(ed) a cow, but my husband knows and I know I'd become too attached. I would literally starve to death before I ate my dogs, they are like my children.

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NAB's avatar

I would take the trade off for fresh eggs. As I get older, I definitely have less need for animal protein (but I do love eggs and cheese).

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JW's avatar

Feel the same way. Commercial farms are less than humane. We thank the lord and the chickens for what they have given us. Not something you ever get use to but part of life.it is def humbling.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

I'm clicking the like button on these posts but half the time it doesn't work. This has been a great thread.

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Runemasque's avatar

25 million poultry were destroyed for avian flu. Alarm was raised that supposedly wild birds were spreading it too. Where I live in Minnesota, there was much talk about whether inspectors could use this flu to come on your property and order destruction of your chickens. Not much further leap to see a justification to outlaw hunting of birds. This would open the way for the fake chicken meat. We can now see how credible this scenario is after the recent plandemic .

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Christy's avatar

I see a huge migration over the next few years contingent of red and blue states.

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Terry C's avatar

Obviously, none of those "scientists" have watched any "Star Trek" series. Otherwise, they would know better than to mess with a wormhole, even a model one.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

👆🤣

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Sweettea71's avatar

In regards to the Brunson case it’s sad that this is considered a Hail Mary. If I had either committed fraud or broke the law and 2 years later someone proved it I’d go to jail. The fact politicians, especially at the Federal level, have a different set of rules is ridiculous.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Amen brother/sis

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Kim's avatar

I agree!

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Lee Muller's avatar

Today is the day. Share with all Georgia voters. Make the most of what we can.

Three take-aways for the Georgia Senate Runoff: Herschel Walker's stand for health freedom contrasts Raphael Warnock's recent "not voting"

https://leemuller.substack.com/p/georgia-senate-runoff-herschel-walkers

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Jon Stephenson's avatar

I thought it was 12/6?

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Lee Muller's avatar

Yes you are right Tuesday, 12/6. Thank you for pointing that out. Sorry, I'm too eager. Please please vote, thank you.

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Jon Stephenson's avatar

Wish I lived in GA so I could vote. Maybe I could go there and vote anyway, Democrat style!

I have to admit, I don't have much faith in GA voters or the voting system there. Hope I'm wrong.

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Lisa Liberty's avatar

Finally some news (even if it the news results in, we’re not sure) about shedding infecting the unvaccinated. I’m assuming more research will be conducted. But hey, for now I’m happy the virus is “unstable” on the outside of bodies. As far as the possibility it can transfer via smooching, I’ve read where on dating sites, women are not being honest about being vaccinated. Soon we might see an increase in sales for those special green lights used to detect nano particles (or is it magnetic particles) in the blood stream. Great! More division in society!!

The nurse injecting saline, rather than the vaccine, God bless her! She deserves the cover of Time Magazine. She single handedly saved lives. She’s very brave!!

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Anne Clifton's avatar

My goodness! Having to worry about that and also having to ask, "Have you always been a woman (or man, as the case may be). It's a brave new world, indeed.

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NeoBob's avatar

Late to the shedd thread - I swear that my big covid infection occurred after a dinner-at-home with freshly boosted mother-in-law in October 2021. All three in my family had flu symptoms the very next day. Wife and daughter (who incidentally had a hard time with H1N1 a decade ago) recovered quickly. I went on to have a classic hard case of the 'rona (not test verified though...). I was hanging out mostly with unvaxxed folks at the time, so the contact tracing would lead to suspicion. Are there any other anecdotes out there? I"m nervous I have mRNA or vax spike in my 57-yr old body and that I might not have mounted a full 'natural' immune response through wild infection.

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Anne Clifton's avatar

I wish we knew the answer. There's so many potential ramifications and all our esteemed "experts" will say is, don't worry, they're safe and effective.

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Christy's avatar

I feel so bad for my kids! As if dating wasn’t hard enough!

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Politico Phil's avatar

Yeah. Use to be I only had to ask if she had a boyfriend. Now I have to add, Do you have a girlfriend? This is getting to be too much.

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Jon Stephenson's avatar

If I were dating, the jab and overall attitudes about covid would be essential first date questions. If she's not clearly on Team Reality, it would be "nice to have met you!"

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Unapologetically Me's avatar

I'd ask that question from the outset. No "first date" if they get the answer wrong...

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Jon Stephenson's avatar

That would save time and trouble, for sure. The original comment was Lisa Liberty said women are lying about jab status on online dating sites, so you might not get good info prior to meeting. Anyone can say she is unjabbed, but a few minutes of in person conversation about covid and jabs will reveal if she is genuine or not.

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Unapologetically Me's avatar

A few minutes of on-line questioning, by me, would have the vaccinated liar running for cover and blocking me. 😉

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Unapologetically Me's avatar

She was brave and thoughtful but didn't save any lives, when all the dust settled.

No doubt those who were originally injected with saline were eventually re-injected with the real drug, then boosted, then re-boosted.

She tried though.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Yeah, but her conscious is clear and she delayed the day she would lose her paycheck by quitting out of an unwillingness to kill people. I commend her.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

You should see the prices for "unvaxed" sperm. It's the new Bitcoin!😆😆

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Jon Stephenson's avatar

Seriously? How much? I have some of that. 🤣

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Penny Olson's avatar

My Naturopath has found signs of mRNA in me with the testing they do. Neither my husband nor I have taken the shot. The drops we take for treatment are set up to attempt to get it out of our bodies but not certain yet if it is working. We have 5 adult children. All but one of them & their families have taken the shot, including their children. We are sad for them. Also my brother & his wife are gleefully shot & boosted. He is now dealing with a skin condition that the conventional MD he sees is saying is possibly an autoimmune condition. Hmmmm.....

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Heather B's avatar

Penny it is so hard and sad to watch pro-vax family members deal with the consequences of their choices. My older sister and husband are dealing with severe Covid (again) as well as a Parkinson’s diagnosis for my brother in law after their second “booster” (Covid 13 days after shots!). You would think the stroke he had right after their FIRST booster would have been enough of a warning. They also both got Covid after their first booster. I have repeatedly begged her to stop getting the shots but “her doctor told her she should get the vaccine”. At this point she is just another sheep and I don’t think I can help her.

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Politico Phil's avatar

My son who is a PhD in pharmacology is director of specialty therapies. You would not believe the number of neurological cases from the jab that continually come across his desk. Since no one is reporting the statistics, it is impossible to know the magnitude of the suffering the jab is producing but I would bet that neurological disorders would give cancer and heart attacks a run for first place.

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Christy's avatar

My dad passed and her health has gone down the tube, and my sister still gets the boosters😢

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RandiG's avatar

Christy, my dad is on hospice after the booster. He has very late stage dementia. Very sad.

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Penny Olson's avatar

A neighbor's cousin ended up in the hospital for 8 days with covid but she couldn't understand that after having had the full shot series, all the boosters, the pneumonia shot & the flu shot that maybe, just possibly it had anything to do with all those fake, harmful immunity products. It is so very sad for sure, Heather.

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Cyn's avatar

Can you please share which test your naturopath used to determine evidence of mRNA? Thank you!

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GoodGrief-239's avatar

And specifically what test does your naturopath use to detect mRNA?

And specifically what are the drops?

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Penny Olson's avatar

I'm sorry I haven't answered before now. I seldom come on the . I can't think of the name of the piece of equipment that they use & I have lost the paper I had that describes it. All I can say is it is through a chiropractic clinic here in MN. The drops are from a base product that they make up to match what it is that is showing up in their testing. That's about all I can tell you. Sorry, it's not much help. Oh, this kind of care is being provided by others out in AZ somewhere too but I have no information other than that.

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GoodGrief-239's avatar

Interesting. I’m in Minnesota! Do you know what clinic?

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NeoBob's avatar

Late to the shedd thread - @Penny. How did you test for mRNA? I swear that my big covid infection occurred after a dinner-at-home with freshly boosted mother-in-law in October 2021. All three in my family had flu symptoms the very next day. Wife and daughter (who incidentally had a hard time with H1N1 a decade ago) recovered quickly. I went on to have a classic hard case of the 'rona (not test verified though...). I was hanging out mostly with unvaxxed folks at the time, so the contact tracing would lead to suspicion. Are there any other anecdotes out there? I"m nervous I have mRNA or vax spike in my 57-yr old body and that I might not have mounted a full 'natural' immune response through wild infection.

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Politico Phil's avatar

That really gets me - when they are gleeful about getting jabbed.

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Mark York's avatar

CHICKEN COOP...I've been raising chickens for decades. Not so many now...only have 50 or so...If I had to limit my suggestions to ONE valuable comment it is...AUTOMATIC DOOR!!! That way, just in case your coffee is late (LOL!) your chickens won't suffer! AAANNNNDDD...Just in case you get TOO MUCH COFFEE and don't realize it's bedtime...your feathered entertainment won't wind up on some nocturnal predator's dining table!!! ENJOY!

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Yes, raising animals is an everyday, morning and evening job plus becoming your own vet. Farmers are not stupid ppl and are the backbone of a civilized country. We prefer to mind our own business and families.

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Freebird's avatar

I’d love to have chickens, but the predators around here aren’t just nocturnal. I looked out one morning to see a Fox jump up onto the top of our 5’ chain link fence and nonchalantly walk the length of it like a cat. We had a lot of them this year and the cottontail bunny population is greatly decreased. We set traps but were pretty much “out foxed”! 😂

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JW's avatar

🤣

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JW's avatar

We have used the automatic doors and they are a chicken life saver.

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Out of all the things I've done and purchased for my chickens, the auto-locking automatic door takes first place, by far. Seconded by a remote camera. No more getting up at the crack of dawn or worrying about who will tend them if we were to overnight else where. And checking on them is easily done remotely, just for my piece of mind. Now that the weather is getting colder and wetter, I appreciate my auti door even more.

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JW's avatar

Great idea on the remote camera. That will be next.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Thanks for the information on and analysis of the Brunson case, Jeff. I appreciate having your professional take on it.

Agree with your thoughts on the fake meat, generally anything man-made is inferior to what nature produces. And very often comes with side effects or other issues.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

As a retired litigator who's been involved with a couple of Supreme Court cases, I'm surprised that Jeff has ANY hope whatsoever for the Brunson. Yeah, I get that it is highly remarkable they could get this far, but I'd bet my kids' 401k's that it won't get heard at all.

It's a ridiculous farce.

Better chance that Jesus returns and installs Himself as the Chief Justice than that Brunson survives.

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So. Brothers from Utah without formal legal training (for whatever that's worth) had sufficient knowledge about a particular law created by Congress that demands investigation by Congress into lawful complaints submitted to Congress.

The Congress decides to "boot" this responsibility and in so doing violate the law and their oaths citing, oh, I don't know..."insurrection?"

I'll bet the vast majority of those losers in Congress lack any knowledge of this law -- as does the vast, vast majority of lawyers in this country.

So. Instead of lawyers from all over the country "descending" on Congress demanding they follow their own law and investigate, three "ordinary" men from Utah take up the task -- come what may. Instead of a flood of such cases coming from all over the country from uncountable numbers of lawyers truly dedicated to their oaths and the Constitution, three "ordinary" men from Utah invest the time and money and effort and intellectual capital to craft 𝑶𝑵𝑬 case that sits on the Supreme court calendar for conference on -- of all days -- Jan 6, 2023.

While I understand being "measured" in our optimism for any just outcome of this case, lawyers across this country should be mortified at their own ignorance of this law and their inaction. Should those of us who pray and hold out hope that justice will be done in this case have our prayers and hopes answered, it would be no stretch to suggest that the ensuing ignominy that falls upon this country's legal profession will have been 𝒆𝒂𝒓𝒏𝒆𝒅 just like which has befallen those in the medical profession.

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Latest update on the Brunsen case - SCOTUS is set to have a confrence on (of all dates!) 1/6/23

https://rumble.com/v1yclhk-surrender-u.s.-sovereignty-with-loy-brunson-and-josh-reid-unrestricted-trut.html

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

That's just the point - these non-lawyers have zero understanding of the law (but obviously did a helluva lot of work to get a Petition filed with the Supreme Court.)

I know a lot of lay people think this treason theory is a slam dunk, but it's just anything but that.

Even IF someone slips LSD into the Supreme Court's drinking water and they voted to hear this pile of crap, there's absolutely no legal way (as Jeff hints) that the Supreme Court has the power to do what they want it to do, which is to "un-do" the elections and prosecute the cheaters for treason. They just don't have that power.

Mark my words: these guys worked very hard and got very lucky to get a case filed. That's a billion miles away from convincing anyone on the SC to actually hear the thing. I predict the vote is 9-0 to ignore this thing.

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The fundamental point of the case rests on the fact that nearly 400 members of the United States Congress broke the law and their oaths. They did this by voting to dispense with their duty to investigate lawfully-submitted complaints to it regarding the election.

Stated differently, assuring "fair and honest" elections provides the basis for the law. The basis of the 𝒄𝒂𝒔𝒆 is Congress's failure to follow it -- 𝒏𝒐𝒕 "un-doing" the election. This law provides as a penalty for failing to follow it removal from office. The Brunsons didn't provide for this remedy! "Lawmakers" did -- and they "booted" -- their own law!!

Had Congress done its duty and found that the over 100 complaints of election "irregularities" 𝒂𝒍𝒍 had no merit, (cough, cough) then the nation would have the assurance it has a right to -- that the federal election was "fair and honest." And none of us would have ever heard of Loy or Raland Brunson.

The country's lawyers could remain inert against the ongoing Constitutional violations started in 2020 and watch in peace as yet more violations of it and basic human rights get imposed on nation via the vaxxine mandate of the Congressionally-assured "fair and honest" election that brought us that corrupt parasite from Delaware.

P.S. Your sanctimony and disparagement toward this subject and the Brunsons really is unbecoming, Fred.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Your initial statement is incorrect - this case is not based on Congress breaking a law - it's based on the stretch that their oaths to defend the Constitution were violated. It's a YUGE leap to jump from pledging to defend the Constitution, to you failed to defend the Constitution because you had a difference of opinion about the validity of an election outcome.

You say "This law provides as a penalty for failing to follow it removal from office." Entirely untrue. Cite the law to me. No such law exists.

I believe as much as anyone does that the election was rigged. There absolutely was election fraud, I don't doubt it in the least. But the People do not and never have had the power to elect the president of the United States. That's solely the Electoral College's job.

You can say what you want about my "sanctimony and disparagement" but I've always understood that the average person understands almost nothing about our Constitutional Republic.

This case has ZERO basis to go forward. It won't. Mark my words: 9-0 against hearing it.

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

You're right -- to a point. I was wrong -- to a point. I spoke to one of the Brunson brothers yesterday and got myself straightened out from the source.

The question is not about the validity of an election outcome per se. It is about a duty to investigate lawful complaints that pertain to allegations of 𝒆𝒍𝒆𝒄𝒕𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝒊𝒏𝒕𝒆𝒓𝒇𝒆𝒓𝒆𝒏𝒄𝒆 that had serious implications related to national security. Not vote counting per se.

Let's say the Congress does its duty, investigates, and they find sufficient evidence to prove foreign interference. We then have a national security issue, a possible state of war, and, lastly, an election issue.

If the above happens and Congress finds insufficient evidence to prove foreign interference and proves through its investigation that the electronic voting system is 100% secure and everybody's vote counted as cast, it would prove that at no time was national security at risk, election integrity has been proven, and the election stands. No foreign interference, no treason, no state of war, no election issue.

So, Fred, you contend the above does not pertain to federal officials' oath of office? That the above falls outside their duty to "protect and defend?" That not undertaking this investigation does not violate their oath?

OK.

As for your point about "the people" not having the power to elect the President? Who said they did? "Everybody knows," Fred, that in our constitutional republic voters vote to elect electors who then vote to elect the President. Come on, man!

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

I should have expanded on my Electoral College reference. It was too laconic to be understood. What I meant to imply was that the election fraud that occurred was at the state level popular elections, and not the EC. There was no vote fraud at the Electoral College, which is the only body that actually chooses our President - not the popular votes.

That said, there's no *legal* duty for Congress to investigate anything, whether or not they took an Oath to defend the Constitution. Their oath of office is ceremonial, not legal.

If this were not the case, the winning party could simply charge the losing party with violating their oaths every time the government switched parties. This is the stuff of Banana Republics - or used to be.

Ergo, they haven't "adhered to an Enemy" much less committed Treason (which by the way, can only be charged when our Republic has formally declared war on an Enemy.)

Nor does the Supreme Court have any power to un-do an election that has been decided by the Electoral College, and subsequently certified and accepted by Congress.

For these reasons, the Brunson case has no legal basis whatsoever - no matter how frustrated the American people are with the rampant frauds in our elections and holding offices in our houses of Congress.

I am in complete agreement with you that the popular votes were fraudulent. They obviously were, it seems to me. But that opinion does not equate with a legal requirement that Congress investigate anything. There's simply no such requirement in any federal statute I'm aware of.

Which brings up a problem (and perhaps a potential solution I mentioned in another thread yesterday.) The federal government ordinarily has zero Constitutional authority to oversee elections - even those for federal office. That's completely the jurisdiction of the states themselves.

The evil genius of the election stealing Democratic Party is that by corrupting elections they theoretically are beyond the scope and reach of the federal authorities. The only authorities they need to fear are run by their own Democratic (or RINO) state officials. So the Dems cheated their way to controlling our federal offices by corrupting our state offices. It's almost like the Achille's heel ejection port on the Death Star, if you'll excuse the silly popular reference.

However, the Voting Rights Act was enacted in the 1960's to fix another Democratic corruption - though one based on race instead of party. Prior to the VRA, state Democratic poll officials made it practically impossible for Southern blacks to vote. There was no way to address these racial disparities because the Feds had no power over elections.

Today I hear many people on the right warning us not to "federalize" elections. OK. But wasn't the Voting Rights Act effective at preventing race-based election fraud? Why shouldn't we adopt the same tactics?

We have to fix local election fraud, or else this nation is finished. It may well be too late. The "proton torpedo" may already have been launched.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

Please use the term "Democrat" and "Democratic" correctly. There's absolutely nothing democratic about the Democrat party and their ilk.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Yup, I agree with your description. The election fraud is really quite simple. It's the electronic voting machines. They need to be eliminated. Paper ballots only, hand counted. Simple solution actually. Florida had fair elections this year due to the election reforms laws that were passed here (I believe we are the only state to have done so). The total vote was counted in one night. Thus the only state where the red wave was "visible".

But your conclusion may still happen:...We have to fix local election fraud, or else this nation is finished. It may well be too late. The "proton torpedo" may already have been launched... There is a division taking shape between the Bolsheviks, who control the Fed Gov't and many of the state and local gov'ts, and the people and states that remember what it means to be American. The people are already dividing themselves by leaving the Woke states and moving to the free states. Conversely, unhappy woke people who live in free states are moving to states where they are "free" to practice their Wokeism. As the Woke states and the Fed gov't go increasingly broke, eventually the free states will have to cut ties out of self-preservation or their productivity will be taxed to support the unproductive Woke governments. I don't know if this can be reversed. I do not believe the Bolsheviks will voluntarily give up power in 2024. They will entirely steal the election or they will not hold elections at all based on same national emergency they create which would prolly begin next year. I do not put anything past these people.

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Politico Phil's avatar

The average person may know nothing about the application of our Constitution but they are increasingly aware that there "is a rat in Philadelphia" and they are increasingly feeling disenfranchised and powerless/meaningless, though they are unable to identify the source of their frustration. If nothing else, events like this unlikely case will serve to give some concrete expression to the frustration American citizens are experiencing. The case may go nowhere but continual efforts like this may serve to galvanize and coalesce a public movement against the evil that has taken our government.

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Politico Phil's avatar

What I want to know is where the F*** are our lawyers?

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

You're a man after my own heart, Phil. ❤️❤️❤️

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Let's hope it has the effect you mention in your last sentence.

I fear instead that this ignorant pile of crap case will only serve to further alienate the well-meaning but ignorant of the law public, and drive them further underground when it inevitably craters on Jan. 6

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Politico Phil's avatar

All I know is we must continually and loudly point out what is so wrong about what is happening. But it is a very difficult proposition when the enemy literally controls the mass media. I would not worry about alienating a few wilting daisies in the public. If they can't appreciate what is happening, they wouldn't be of any help anyway. This is a war and looking for the perfect legal case is not going to accomplish anything. We have to keep fighting loudly and crudely if necessary. There is a reason for Stew Peters style. We are always letting the opposition set the terms of the debate. Think about it. They ALWAYS control the playing field cuz we're always on the defensive. It's ridiculous. We have to reject their presuppositions, vividly describe them for the evil they are and proclaim the truth. People recognize truth when they hear it. There is no common ground with evil. When we compromise, we lose. The Rep party under the RINOs have always used this tactic to control the party. We have to put the enemy on the defensive and force them to defend their position. We do not have to defend our position. We are in the right. Truth defends itself. Evil cannot stand under scrutiny. There is a division coming and we should welcome it and illuminate it. This is not a legal debate. This is a war.

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Politico Phil's avatar

From the rooftops! Bullhorns!!

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Anastasia's avatar

Dear Mr. Childers. Will the jab mandate for healthcare workers end when the president ends the Covid emergency? Or will it remain in perpetuity because the Supreme Court upheld it? My high school junior would like to study nursing but the jab is a dealbreaker. Thanks for any advice!

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DogsLife's avatar

If I may, as a (retired) RN, seeing what has happened to healthcare, I suggest your teen consider naturopathy instead. There is a greater ability to help people, using natural remedies instead of doctors' prescriptions. ND (naturopathic doctors) are going to be in great demand. A nursing license will always be subject to governing authorities and employment contingent on employers' rules.

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Bubblehead's avatar

Asking for a friend who is pretty much fed up with their PCP. How can a person find an ND?

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Me too. Just turned 60, haven't wasted much time or money on doctors and the med establishment (wife is a RN, so I see it purely as a revenue stream.)

But I am strongly averse to going anywhere near the medical industry after what we've seen.

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Freebird's avatar

I go to a DO whose practice is very naturopathic. Maybe it’s just him, because his dad was a chiropractor and he grew up with the naturopathic influence. But ask people in your community.

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DogsLife's avatar

Start at naturopathic.org or https://naturemed.org/find-an-nd/ I found mine through church.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

I just wish these docs took regular health insurance. I looked into a popular (just about only) facility last year and the beginning consult was around $400. Then they had some sort of "membership" that was far outside my budget. We have paid health insurance through our retirement system but it's not really a benefit if they will only pay allopathic doctors.

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DogsLife's avatar

It's a shame people have been forced into health insurance plans through their employer. Do they even allow workers to opt out? I believe prior to WWII, people could purchase health insurance, or any other kind of insurance, without outside influence. Once employers began offering it as "a benefit" to attract workers, it started going downhill and here we are now.

I made the decision to cancel health insurance after the "UnAffordable Care Act" increased my monthly premium x3 and more than doubled the deductible to $8000. I did the math and chose to bank that money instead and pay for care as needed. (It's amazing how little I actually needed to see a doctor - outside of the rare emergency.) I did join Liberty Healthshare for the catastrophic possibility (low monthly fee and I chose a deductible I could afford).

Now I don't have any coverage. I don't ever intend to go to a hospital of my own volition, ever again. (Refusing to ever be injected, I wouldn't expect them to help me anyway.) I pay as I go and it's proven to be a lot less than health insurance with no managed care hoops or governmental entanglements. So, while the "out of pocket" fees seem high at first glance, they are a lot less in the long-run and you don't have your records being scoured by insurers and the federal government.

It's definitely worth it. The hard part is breaking free of the system which has intentionally scared us to pieces with the fear of a potential catastrophic illness. Should that day come, I'm prepared to leave this life post haste and any debts can be paid with all I leave behind. And good riddance.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Thank you so much. I will look into it.

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Copernicus's avatar

You might ask the staff at a local natural foods store or vitamin type place.

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J Boss's avatar

The future of health care has two choices: sustainable suppression of chronic illnesses often caused by the system and naturopathic treatments.

People that want experts to tell them what to do will stay out. People that want to feel better will seek the alternative.

The govt and big pharma will attempt to AGAIN discredit naturopathic doctors.

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Jon Stephenson's avatar

Not a lawyer, but I think hospitals and schools can have a jab mandate regardless of federal policy if they want, unless courts rule against them.

Without court rulings, whether institutions keep their mandates long term will be case by case. However, many hospitals do approve exemptions (which they are supposed to by law, but who obeys the law these days). If she is willing to stand her ground and take a risk, she may be able to pursue nursing even with mandates in place.

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Amy Hines's avatar

I’d like to know as well.

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Tonya McKinney's avatar

Regarding vaccine shedding, I am not sure how it happens but I know of two anti-Mnra friends who were with a vaccinated friend all weekend on a trip in 2021. The two “unvaccinated” friends both got Bell’s palsy the next week. I don’t know if they shared drinks but definitely no kissing was going on lol.

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The Shepherd knows's avatar

I’m afraid there might be something to this shedding. I worked in a busy pharmacy along side coworkers who got vaxed and boosted. Every time they got their jab, myself and a friend (un vaxed) would get mild flu like symptoms for a day or two.... we became leery of the shedding but were told it was impossible. 🙄

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daiva's avatar

Impossible --> laughably improbable --> could be --> likely --> we always knew it to be true! 🤷

🗨 Not being able to see the mechanism is a very poor reason for doubting something. ~~Brian Josephson, Welsh theoretical physicist Nobelist

😉

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Copernicus's avatar

Well, my understanding was that this sort of technology has been proposed (?? used ??) to spread birth control amongst wild rodents.

Also, how do we know that the mR N A that is shed is NOT still packaged in its little lipid envelopes? That would make it more stable, at least for a short while.

Also, it’s weird that the temperature requirements for the actual needles were loosened after the initial rollouts? No idea the reasons. But, if legit, could suggest the mR N A is actually more stable at a wider range of temps. 🤷🏼‍♀️ I am skeptical… but still, worth considering.

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NeoBob's avatar

Late to the shedd thread - I swear that my big covid infection occurred after a dinner-at-home with freshly boosted mother-in-law in October 2021. All three in my family had flu symptoms the very next day. Wife and daughter (who incidentally had a hard time with H1N1 a decade ago) recovered quickly. I went on to have a classic hard case of the 'rona (not test verified though...). I was hanging out mostly with unvaxxed folks at the time, so the contact tracing would lead to suspicion. Are there any other anecdotes out there? I"m nervous I have mRNA or vax spike in my 57-yr old body and that I might not have mounted a full 'natural' immune response through wild infection.

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daiva's avatar

Kinda points-of-order advice: you better copy-paste this on next alive thread 🙂 Given a chance, knowledgeable folks here will happily rain you w/ tips & tricks, I'm beyond sure.

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NeoBob's avatar

I know. I just can't keep up with this glorious newsletter. I'll try to do better. Thx.

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daiva's avatar

Try to find a byte of solace in the fact you're a far cry from alone 😁

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Politico Phil's avatar

No "mights" about it. All of THEIR promises are lies.

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