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John Henry Holliday, DDS's avatar

I think Ted Nugent is out of line. The truly evil aspect about the Covid shots was how the government lied and told us that our compliance would help save the lives of others. I know many people who went and got "vaccinated" for this very reason. They are good, conscientious people who truly believed they were acting selflessly by rolling up their sleeves. And, let's not forget, far too many churches echoed the government line and encouraged their congregation to accept mRNA into their bodies.

The real Deplorables draw government paychecks.

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Janet's avatar

I guess so but the vitriol I was subjected to by friends??? And family . The shunning. The guilting and other abuses (actually told I would kill them) looks like the actions of a pack of wolves, in sheeps clothing.

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John Henry Holliday, DDS's avatar

I have contempt for those who castigated the unvaxxed. To shun family members over this was/is unconscionable. I shouldn't say it, but I am glad those people took the shot. I hope they are current on their boosters, too.

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Ellen Komorowski's avatar

Unfortunately, these "good, conscientious people who truly believed they were acting selflessly by rolling up their sleeves" were sometimes some of the same people who vilified others for not doing the same. That included the churches who also vilified congregants who didn't tow the line! As a lifelong Christian, I was incredibly disheartened by this cowardly show of bias. Where was their faith over fear? It literally went out the window. So sad!

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John Henry Holliday, DDS's avatar

I echo your comment. To see so many people willingly hate others over a useless vaccine has been positively frightening. Those who vilified others for refusing the shots will answer to God for their hatred.

Hang tough, Ellen. Do not succumb to the hatred surrounding us. Be a light in the world. Help others when the time comes...and it is definitely coming...soon.

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Ellen Komorowski's avatar

I am doing my best not to succumb to all the hatred around, but it is hard. Fortunately, I have never been a grudge holder; with the exception of people like Bill Gates, Anthony Fauci, etc.........

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John Henry Holliday, DDS's avatar

Biden, Wen, too many to list.

Czesc, Ellen!

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Christy's avatar

EXACTLY!!! I was so disheartened seeing Christian’s going along with it.

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Alison Smith's avatar

But that is exactly why they are considered sheep- they went with the crowd and did as they were told. And then fought back if you questioned why they were acting like a sheep. Baaaa...

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Fla Mom's avatar

I think this is as uncharitable an assessment as are those regarding the parents of the students in your school, Alison. My sister, for example, who has previously been far less willing to take conventional medicines than I, reluctantly decided to get the initial series so she could visit her best friend, whose husband had a liver transplant. She believed the very prevalent and public lie about blocking transmission, as did my friend and former medical/public health colleague who let his young sons take the injections. Honest people can find it difficult to believe that others can lie with such facility, and in such a way that affects other people so fundamentally.

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Gigi Gummerson's avatar

My one sister said “why would THEY hold back medications that worked” referring to ivermectin. She still to this day believes it doesn’t work and that the government is telling her the truth. She’s the smartest one in my family, Northwestern Grad has many more accreditations. Also, all her kids feel/talk the same way. Just stunning!

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Julie Ann B's avatar

She may be smart and graduated from a “prestigious” school (those are actually the worst in terms of wokeness) but she lacks critical thinking skills. It was obvious from the onset that there was something very wrong in the response to the “Covid” virus.

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Truthseeker's avatar

I’ve decided…

Courage and Common sense can’t be taught … it’s a matter of innate character and life experiences

And that’s why many many many ‘book smart’ college educated people are missing the mark here.

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Fla Mom's avatar

Smart, honest people often think that other smart people are honest and find it hard to believe they're that sinful and fallen, with the color of their 'water' blacker than others' (alluding to an illustration used to explain the Reformed doctrine of total depravity).

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John Henry Holliday, DDS's avatar

I hear what you're saying, but the government's lies were truly insidious and disarmed the resistance that many felt to the untested vaccines. They didn't blindly follow orders to "vaccinate," they, too, were coerced in a gentler, subtler fashion. It is unfair to call them stupid sheep...just as it's unfair to call those who, under threat of potential penury, took the shot.

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GoodGrief-239's avatar

It really didn’t take much to look into it. To ask questions. To see the psyops. To see the censoring and not say whoa, wait a minute here.

And just using some common sense…you can’t go outside? You can’t go surfing or hiking? You have to wear a mask outside?

My hiking group lost a paying member when they required people attending the hike to be vaccinated or wear a mask. 🤦‍♀️

It really proved how weak our society as a whole is.

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Roger Beal's avatar

What you said. Plus recall it was safe - h3ll, it was encouraged - to riot with one's AntiFa and BLM pals.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Well, I think you're both right. Bottom line is Americans as a whole have become a weak and compliant society. This is a wake up call as John Henry notes below to regard Gov't with extreme skepticism.

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Trilby's avatar

Only weak-minded people believed the lies!

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John Henry Holliday, DDS's avatar

Dr. McCullough did. So did Dr. Malone.

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CMCM's avatar

The one that particularly surprised me was Dr. Malone. I can't believe he didn't know better.

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John Henry Holliday, DDS's avatar

Yes, I am a bit suspicious of him. On his Friday Funnies Substack post this past Good Friday, he posted a truly blasphemous, vile cartoon about someone baking Jesus a Crucifixion cake, iirc.

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Fla Mom's avatar

I watched Dr. McCullough on a video saying that he found vaccinated COVID patients to be easier to manage than unvaccinated. He seems to say different now, though. And Dr. Malone is vaccinated (as Dr. McCullough may be).

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Politico Phil's avatar

I only hope a significant percentage of the shots were past the expiration date and inert. Or had been sitting out too long at room temperature....I suspect that happened a lot.

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Politico Phil's avatar

But not totally "inert". Even though the protein part of the shot may have broken down because it wasn't kept at 0 degrees, the toxic heavy metals in the shot will still wreck havoc on the body.

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

Love your name

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John Henry Holliday, DDS's avatar

Thanks! I have a bad feeling that we'll be forced to emulate Doc's skills with firearms to defend our freedoms.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Military grade psy-ops. This needs to be run to ground as much as the kill-shot itself. Everyone involved right up to Gen Milley needs to be prosecuted for crimes against humanity AND treason...and then hung before live TV.

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Christy's avatar

Please tell me one government that looks out for its citizens.

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John Henry Holliday, DDS's avatar

Ours used to. Not any more.

The people I know who smelled a rat from the very start were those that grew up in European communist countries and were used to governments lying to citizens. This is a lesson that we need to learn. It's probably too late for millions of Americans.

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JW's avatar

I liken the vaxxers more to lemmings who follow the leader over the cliff to sure death. They see the cliff ahead which they normally would not go near but the masses make them follow.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Sheep will follow the leader off a cliff as well….it’s an accurate description.

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John Henry Holliday, DDS's avatar

Those who skipped to the vax center and happily got jabbed, well, they got sheared.

Same with us. Many unjabbed stood on principle. Many others were too lazy to even bother thinking about getting the shot.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

So how were you and I smart enough to not comply? Because we're not sheep. We've learned to not trust Fox news or uninformed pastors. People with critical thinking skills are who have figured this out.

How about this example: "Guns are prohibited; turn in those who have them". Would you defend those who go along as "well, they just didn't know better".

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GoodGrief-239's avatar

For me, I don’t watch tv news so that gave me a head start.

My church is not part of the sheeple and fought the Governor to stay open, albeit with attendance restrictions. They increased the number of their services to go all weekend to accommodate everyone and never ever preached what to do about the vaccine or not. Only preached God’s word.

So please don’t lump all churches into this. Where people choose to attend church and the explosion of the mega church is a definite indicator of leading up to the problem…people not being discerning about what is being taught by their mainline evangelical mega church only teaching what their itching ears want to hear.

Total lack of discernment and wisdom.

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Tory's avatar

Discernment. 💯

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Ellen Komorowski's avatar

I think the bottom line is that one should never take medical advice from a pastor, a technocrat (Bill Gates), a celebrity, a sports hero or from an actual medical professional without doing your due diligence and researching. Always follow your gut!

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John Henry Holliday, DDS's avatar

The people who got the shot out of a misguided belief that they were protecting others are victims. They were conned. I direct my ire at the conman, not the victim.

Personally, I attribute my unvaccinated status to not watching TV. Fear of the "deadly virus" was stoked ceaselessly for months everywhere we turned. I feel pity for those manipulated into getting injected. I have nothing but contempt who wished death upon the unvaxxed. I have nothing but a seething contempt for those behind this evil.

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Trilby's avatar

No! That's the thing right there! They thought-- and still think!-- that they were the good people because they were obedient. I'm a renegade and I despise obedient people.

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M VARR's avatar

I don't think there has ever been a successful civilization composed of renegades.

Like it our not, much of our survival depends on some of those obedient people you despise.

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Christy's avatar

They can be obedient all they want. My problem is when they force their obedience on me!!!!

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Fla Mom's avatar

I hope you held fast to that philosophy when raising your children, lol, but somehow I'm skeptical.

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Donna in MO's avatar

There is a fine line between teaching kids to think for themselves and letting the inmates run the asylum. I battled that constantly when raising mine.

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Donna in MO's avatar

I get what you are saying. But on the whole 'our society' has become too lazy and compliant. We cry 'there ought to be a law'.... when some problem or injustice surfaces. More laws = more opportunity for tyranny. 'Compassion' is a gov check vs volunteering, donating and working to give people a 'hand up' Sometimes helping people is letting them fall flat on their faces so they can learn a lesson - too many of my friends bail out their adult kids financially from stupid decisions, which leads to entitlement. Most of them are not even grateful. They deflect blame. We the people have been content to let someone else worry about the problems - Netflix, pot, social media - opiates for the masses vs civic engagement, critical thought and looking at the big picture as to where all this is taking us. A lot woke up in 2020, and a lot more still need to get there. But if we don't fix the 'baaaaa' problem, we will be right back there again before we know it.

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Hard Cider Shed's avatar

I don't know about Ted, but I do know many who took the Jab to be able to be with loved ones and only wanted to protect others (and themselves, I am sure). I had a "check" in my spirit early on and stand firm when I hear that small still voice, but must admit that I thought very hard about my invalid sister and what that choice might do to her at the height of the fear mongering rhetoric. Thank God she has survived through everything so far. So, all to say, bless you who were inclined to receive the shot/s so you could be with loved ones. May you stay healthy.

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John Henry Holliday, DDS's avatar

Glad to hear that.

That the government would prey on people's good nature ("Do it to protect others.") is positively satanic. These are truly evil people we are dealing with. There is no way that they will relinquish power via the electoral process. Prepare yourself, HCS.

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Notyours's avatar

I fear I expect this too. The Reset didn't happen with the shots. They have so far been unable to provoke a violent reaction that they could use to shut down the election. Why not now cheat to win which would in all likelihood provoke said reaction. Crackdown, bust some heads, and as they've seen, many will fall into line...

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John Henry Holliday, DDS's avatar

I think you're right, Notyours. The eerily prescient Bill Gates, a couple of weeks ago, mentioned that he sees a civil war erupting over a contested election. So that means it's coming.

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Notyours's avatar

Much like I am eerily prescient that a beer will be opened around 1700, or that Pb is as valuable as Au or Ag...

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John Henry Holliday, DDS's avatar

I am sitting on a fortune of Pb...

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Donna in MO's avatar

One of the many tough situations this morass presented us with. Had a few knock down drag out fights with my mom over my refusal to be jabbed in order to be around her (but she needs me as I do almost all of her shopping and errand running, and dr appts, she is practically an invalid but does still live on her own) I just told her if she got the big C I would hook her up with a Frontline Dr and it would be OK. Not sure she would be cooperative in that but so far she has not had Covid although she did get the first 2 jabs. Held off on the booster as she had a lot of skin problems (I blame the jabs) so her regular Dr told her to wait. Now says she wants to get that first booster. but not sure where that is even available now and I am not going to help her find it. She watches CNN and does not listen to me re: the shots.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Much to the point of this whole thread is Robert Malone's substack from 2 days ago. Not to be missed!

Robert Malone's substack:

So you ask, “why didn’t more physicians stand up and object?”

Because the entire profession has been subjected to the most aggressive and coordinated propaganda, censorship, and defamation campaign the modern western world has ever seen.

https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/censorship-and-defamation-weapons?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

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