Sadly true. My retired high school sciences teacher hubby got flack from admin because he corrected spelling and grammar on the science work handed in. (Teaching after 2001) He was one happy ex teacher when he retired. The big problems for him were admin and parents (these days). Back when he began in the 70’s parents generally backed the teachers. Admin was ALWAYS a problem.
Sadly true. My retired high school sciences teacher hubby got flack from admin because he corrected spelling and grammar on the science work handed in. (Teaching after 2001) He was one happy ex teacher when he retired. The big problems for him were admin and parents (these days). Back when he began in the 70’s parents generally backed the teachers. Admin was ALWAYS a problem.
I do know good, ethical, moral school teachers but I also know of very bad ones. And I also know for a fact of all the illicit sex going on either between school employees or teachers/administrators and parents of students and other configurations. Right now a friend is distressed because her son's wife is conducting an affair with an elementary school teacher (man) at her kid's school and divorcing her husband and they have 3 little kids. This is just one situation. I know personally of many. And the previous Supt.. at our local brainwashing institute/school was having sex with a number of teachers. My friend who taught there informed me And I attended public school as did my kids and now some of my grandkids so I am aware of the crap that goes on in the schools.
Yup. Schools are just another microcosm of basic human behavior. No justification but they are no bastions of truth nor morality. Like most organizations including churches. The nasty is our children are in there.
I can attest to this as well lol. Worked in one elementary school my entire career and my first day there I was alerted to the sexual goings on between the married science teacher and a married classroom teacher. Oy didn’t need to know this on first day! Well, for the next 27 years I witnessed secret meetings under the stairs between married teachers with other married teachers, a young married woman with two babies hooking up with the Single gym teacher from one of our satellite schools and having a baby with him, the principal fooling around with his assistant, it went on and on and everyone knew of everyone’s business. It was like a soap opera. We had bad teachers and assistants come to work high, stealing from each other’s rooms, stealing from drugstore down the block, hitting kids, sleeping on the job, etc
Right now, in the school we get taxed/reamed for, an assistant principal of 20 some years who also coaches/coached girls' basketball has been arrested at school by Sheriff's deputies, jailed, bailed out, and will finally stand trial for a sexual affair with a girl basketball player 2 or 3 years ago. He was caught then but the truth did not fully come out then and he was kept on by the super who is now also being sued. They always cover for each other cuz who knows when the coverer will also need cover. Oh, the crime and corruption in all schools.
My mom, my aunt, both sisters, several cousins, and now my daughter in law are all (or have been) public school teachers. Watching them, the most obvious thing is that we don’t pay teachers nearly enough to do the difficult work that teaching has become. Asking someone who makes $40,000 a year (and needs a master’s degree to advance) to just do planning on evenings and weekends is not the answer. But most of the funds go to top heavy administrations, and yes, ridiculous diversity garbage.
If teachers earned a better salary, more high quality people would enter the profession and the resulting competition would drive out the riffraff who can’t spell or use correct grammar or who have affairs with coworkers or go into teaching simply because they get summers off and don’t actually like kids or teaching. But we have to start by gutting administrative overhead. And then stop expecting teachers to also be social workers or substitute parents or police officers.
Newly retired NYC special ed teacher. If I knew then what I know now, I wouldn’t have busted my behind to have the perfect class with the perfect lesson plan. The Admin was always up our butts for perfection and Data. They only cared about numbers and stats and drove us bonkers. I didn’t have the thick skin like some and took a lot of the BS personally and seriously. We were required to work occasional weekend mornings for Parent workshops as well as late nights for conferences. I worked many hours planning and preparing on weekends and even summers off I was always researching and looking for new material. I’ve been hit, bitten and attacked by many a student and verbally abused by strung out crazy parents. Have called child welfare services on a few for abuse and was told to hide when that parent came looking for me. Had plenty of nightmares and missed out on a lot of fun with my own family cause I was so busy with work. Gave myself migraines, carpal tunnel, frozen shoulder and bulging discs from the job. I now have Adrenal Fatigue which my Dr says took years to get and will take a long time to correct. I am currently working on detoxing my life!
You have my respect and admiration. Have you ever read the books of Charlotte Iserbyt, John Gatto, Dean Gotcher, or a book titled Educating For The New World Order? Also a book by the late Maureen Heaton. These people tipped us off years ago about what we see happening now.
My pleasure. Here for you and others (please pass it on if you think it useful) is some info by Dean Gotcher. His explanation of Diaprax explained to me much of what I saw going on in the government schools. Our daughter was tricked into a "gifted" class at Bexley elementary/junior high. Presented to us as academic enrichment, this "pull-out" class, in lieu of Social Studies (which is also rotten) was really Diaprax/brainwashing using special materials such as Harry Stottlemeier from Montclair State Uni. and a guy named Lippman and also Jr. Great Books, offshoot of Great Books Foundation from University of Chicago and a couple of Socialists/Commies. I could speak for an hour about Bexley's lies to me.
Yes. Our experience not enough money or respect considering the education needed. The dedication. My hubby corrected papers way into the night. He worked hard to teach. But problems in schools were writ large and included teachers, sadly, during the pandemic snd I heard several say they didn’t want to be around the “child plague rats”. Yes one said that. Online was fine with them. Of course results vary everywhere. If I was to do it again I would homeschool. Unless education gets its act together.
Sadly true. My retired high school sciences teacher hubby got flack from admin because he corrected spelling and grammar on the science work handed in. (Teaching after 2001) He was one happy ex teacher when he retired. The big problems for him were admin and parents (these days). Back when he began in the 70’s parents generally backed the teachers. Admin was ALWAYS a problem.
I do know good, ethical, moral school teachers but I also know of very bad ones. And I also know for a fact of all the illicit sex going on either between school employees or teachers/administrators and parents of students and other configurations. Right now a friend is distressed because her son's wife is conducting an affair with an elementary school teacher (man) at her kid's school and divorcing her husband and they have 3 little kids. This is just one situation. I know personally of many. And the previous Supt.. at our local brainwashing institute/school was having sex with a number of teachers. My friend who taught there informed me And I attended public school as did my kids and now some of my grandkids so I am aware of the crap that goes on in the schools.
Yup. Schools are just another microcosm of basic human behavior. No justification but they are no bastions of truth nor morality. Like most organizations including churches. The nasty is our children are in there.
I can attest to this as well lol. Worked in one elementary school my entire career and my first day there I was alerted to the sexual goings on between the married science teacher and a married classroom teacher. Oy didn’t need to know this on first day! Well, for the next 27 years I witnessed secret meetings under the stairs between married teachers with other married teachers, a young married woman with two babies hooking up with the Single gym teacher from one of our satellite schools and having a baby with him, the principal fooling around with his assistant, it went on and on and everyone knew of everyone’s business. It was like a soap opera. We had bad teachers and assistants come to work high, stealing from each other’s rooms, stealing from drugstore down the block, hitting kids, sleeping on the job, etc
So glad I retired early!!
Right now, in the school we get taxed/reamed for, an assistant principal of 20 some years who also coaches/coached girls' basketball has been arrested at school by Sheriff's deputies, jailed, bailed out, and will finally stand trial for a sexual affair with a girl basketball player 2 or 3 years ago. He was caught then but the truth did not fully come out then and he was kept on by the super who is now also being sued. They always cover for each other cuz who knows when the coverer will also need cover. Oh, the crime and corruption in all schools.
My mom, my aunt, both sisters, several cousins, and now my daughter in law are all (or have been) public school teachers. Watching them, the most obvious thing is that we don’t pay teachers nearly enough to do the difficult work that teaching has become. Asking someone who makes $40,000 a year (and needs a master’s degree to advance) to just do planning on evenings and weekends is not the answer. But most of the funds go to top heavy administrations, and yes, ridiculous diversity garbage.
If teachers earned a better salary, more high quality people would enter the profession and the resulting competition would drive out the riffraff who can’t spell or use correct grammar or who have affairs with coworkers or go into teaching simply because they get summers off and don’t actually like kids or teaching. But we have to start by gutting administrative overhead. And then stop expecting teachers to also be social workers or substitute parents or police officers.
Newly retired NYC special ed teacher. If I knew then what I know now, I wouldn’t have busted my behind to have the perfect class with the perfect lesson plan. The Admin was always up our butts for perfection and Data. They only cared about numbers and stats and drove us bonkers. I didn’t have the thick skin like some and took a lot of the BS personally and seriously. We were required to work occasional weekend mornings for Parent workshops as well as late nights for conferences. I worked many hours planning and preparing on weekends and even summers off I was always researching and looking for new material. I’ve been hit, bitten and attacked by many a student and verbally abused by strung out crazy parents. Have called child welfare services on a few for abuse and was told to hide when that parent came looking for me. Had plenty of nightmares and missed out on a lot of fun with my own family cause I was so busy with work. Gave myself migraines, carpal tunnel, frozen shoulder and bulging discs from the job. I now have Adrenal Fatigue which my Dr says took years to get and will take a long time to correct. I am currently working on detoxing my life!
You have my respect and admiration. Have you ever read the books of Charlotte Iserbyt, John Gatto, Dean Gotcher, or a book titled Educating For The New World Order? Also a book by the late Maureen Heaton. These people tipped us off years ago about what we see happening now.
Thank you 🙏
I will look into these authors/books.
My pleasure. Here for you and others (please pass it on if you think it useful) is some info by Dean Gotcher. His explanation of Diaprax explained to me much of what I saw going on in the government schools. Our daughter was tricked into a "gifted" class at Bexley elementary/junior high. Presented to us as academic enrichment, this "pull-out" class, in lieu of Social Studies (which is also rotten) was really Diaprax/brainwashing using special materials such as Harry Stottlemeier from Montclair State Uni. and a guy named Lippman and also Jr. Great Books, offshoot of Great Books Foundation from University of Chicago and a couple of Socialists/Commies. I could speak for an hour about Bexley's lies to me.
http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/brainwashing/dialectic-gotcher.htm
Diaprax - Practicing the Dialectic
Lynn Stuter also wrote about Diaprax as used by government rats and others. Look it up.
Yes. Our experience not enough money or respect considering the education needed. The dedication. My hubby corrected papers way into the night. He worked hard to teach. But problems in schools were writ large and included teachers, sadly, during the pandemic snd I heard several say they didn’t want to be around the “child plague rats”. Yes one said that. Online was fine with them. Of course results vary everywhere. If I was to do it again I would homeschool. Unless education gets its act together.
Ohio teachers are quite well paid. And administrators even more so.
Exactly. Retired special Ed school teacher here. The Admin was the problem, not the students!