I was mildly skeptical of certain medical practices before all this. But still saw doctors, hospitals, and modern medicine as a net positive.
The last two years have killed every last particle of faith I had in mainstream medicine. I'd have to think really hard about going to the ER even for broken bones, at this point.
I was mildly skeptical of certain medical practices before all this. But still saw doctors, hospitals, and modern medicine as a net positive.
The last two years have killed every last particle of faith I had in mainstream medicine. I'd have to think really hard about going to the ER even for broken bones, at this point.
They do phone consults. Or find a naturopath (we unlicensed ones aren't as kooky as we are portrayed). Or for basic care, find a good herbalist (many are woke though 🙄)
homeopaths don't do physical exams in the medical sense. they would ask all sorts of questions like "what makes it better?" "what color is your snot?" "what flavor is your snot?" etc. but i agree - i only take on telehelath clients in very special circumstances, and very reluctantly. health care should depend on local resources and be delivered in-person; sadly, people with chronic conditions (most of my own clientele) need a lot of non-local support (generally in the form of nutraceuticals).
My homeopath of 40 years has never done a consult with me that took less than 1.5 hours. It's not 'psychotherapy', it's the recognition that our personal terrain (physical/emotional circumstances), our attitude and state of mind and our bodies are all interlinked.
Psychotherapy is based on one's "personal terrain (physical/emotional circumstances), our attitude and state of mind (because) our bodies are all interlinked."
Once you have a working understanding of the operation of your own body, a respectable doctor is very useful in accessing the health system's utilities.
If you have the ability to discern a lack of respectability, why don't use that discernment and the mind that enabled it to educate and doctor yourself?
A few good books on the subject are all you need for a medical library.
I highly recommend Vitamin K2 and the Calcium Paradox: How a Little-Known Vitamin Could Save Your Life by Kate Rheaume-Bleue and the writings of the late Dr. William D. Kelley, D.D.S., M.S., which are available from drkelley.net
there are direct primary care practices popping all over the pacific northwest, definitely in north idaho. not sure about other places - but that's the magic term. the business model is usually a monthly membership with donations. the goal is to be affordable and to actually serve the community.
The only thing you need from a respectable medic is ordering procedures and tests that you have convinced them are indicated and/or efficacious. Mine had no problem adding a 25(OH)D and hs-CRP to the CBC and metabolic panels he runs on me every year as a part of my Medicare physical. He doesn't really think much of vitamin D3, but he was very impressed with my consistent .4 on the hs-CRP three years running, which assures both of us that I don't have any significant inflammatory issues.
Still not sure I believe in what they're doing, but it sure as heck isn't going to hurt me! Plus I've had really good experience with chiropractors since then, which practice also makes no sense whatsoever to me... but I guess it doesn't matter if it makes sense, as long as it actually works.
What’s interesting about holistic medicine is that is definitely doesn’t work like pharmaceuticals. Take honey for instance. I raise bees and my family hasn’t had allergies for 7 years. It didn’t work right away but over time we have all become immune to pollens because of the honey. A lot of vitamins don’t work right away but over time you have less brain fog or less pain moving around etc. like cats claw is amazing for joint discomfort, but it doesn’t work like motrin within 2 hours. Anyway, I hope you look into it!🥰
If it is, likely he's corrupt and a tool of the medical-industrial establishment. Medical boards have been the bane of ethical medics for the last several years, or longer.
I am with you. I will not go to any doc again. They stole whatever respect I had and trust is not something I will ever give them. Again. It is a whole pile of steaming crap. And...don't even get me started on the blood supply.
If anyone needs a blood transfusion, they will likely get blood tainted with the Wuhan shots as I don't think Red Cross is maintaining separate supplies. If anyone can prove me wrong, please do.
Sadie, totally agree. I was complete homeopath for years, then problems you NEED the system. Breast Cancer. Kidney Stones. Torn Rotator Cuff. I absolutely negotiated all treatments. Best pain relief for me.. ice therapy. But, honest I’d love to think I’d never need a hospital. … trust…. No.
Yes...hubs and I just talked about this. The system ruined my boobs looking for cancer. It was awful. They were almost disappointed in the result. Gross. We just have to take care of ourselves as best we can and be discerning, but when you are in a hospital, you have no choice on who looks at you. Right? And...an older friend just mentioned that the government gives (or gave) 8K towards burial costs if one died of covid. Did you hear that? I know of all the other incentives to get jabbed or be on a respirator or have rundeathisnear, but I hadn't heard that.
Yes. My mother died in April 2021 and my brother applied for and got about 7000 for expenses. My wife died in Jan 2022 and the death cert was careful not to say covid.
Um...yeah. Can you not discern that SomeDude used those capital letters for emphasis? Would you have "approved" of something like this: "𝒊𝒏competence"?
Yes. I do. It is hard to be so stupid. But, even someone as stupid as I am would have to go to a lot of doctors to find one who is "competent". And, I am healthy. I might have overstated "not going to any doc again." I do have an annual checkup. We have a neighbor who is a doc and we have moved ourselves into his practice. And, we do go to their place for dinner.
I live in a small town, but over the last 20 years I've watched independent doctors be more or less forced to join various medical corporations. I long ago found a husband-wife doctor team who operate their own family medicine office, and they are totally independent. They are religious (Catholic, I think) and wanted to practice medicine according to their faith and without a corporate overlord telling them what to do. They never pushed me to get a covid vaccine and seemed to understand why my family and I refused it. They also said they would be happy to give a prescription for Ivermectin if I wanted it, although they were unsure any local pharmacy would fill it (I found out an independent compounding pharmacy would be happy to fill it!). I'm very grateful and lucky to have such great doctors, but I do see they are less common these days.
A very good point. This is what my former physician's office (affiliated with a large hospital system) advises about the covid vaccines, straight from their website's FAQ section. "The Pfizer vaccine and the Moderna vaccine use mRNA to instruct the cells in your body to make a harmless piece of the “spike protein” found on the surface of COVID-19. Your immune system is tricked into thinking this is a virus and makes antibodies. A live virus is not included in the vaccine. Your body destroys the mRNA and gets rid of it. It doesn’t stay in your body or alter any DNA. The other ingredients in the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are salt, sugar, and fat."
Thanks. I became aware of that site a few months ago. Do you think it is intentional, for nefarious reasons? I have thought that, IF, this is part of a depopulation plan, they couldn't have every single person falling over dead soon after vaccination. If a lot of people seem to be fine, then they can be told side effects are rare and people will continue to get the shots.
Pfizer own clinical trials showed varying dosages being tested (as we are still in phase 3 trials until Mar 2023), including a placebo. There's absolutely no question they are dosing batches differently. They've even pegged the coordination between Pfizer and Moderna to release and distribute "bad" batches at different times/locations, ie, as Pfizer deaths wind down in one area, Moderna deaths will start to rise in another area.
So true. I have had to read and study for myself and I have lost all faith and trust in the medical industry doctors are nothing more than compliance officers they are incapable of independent thought they only follow the guidance/protocol given down from on high. They will follow it even if it means you die.
My cousin (early 70's) had a heart valve problem for decades and finally had it "repaired" as his cardiologist convinced him it was the thing to do. Now, about 15 months later, he is regretting that decision as his health is going south.
Totally agree and I don't trust them not to inject me forcibly or lie and give me the covid jab while saying it's something else. That rules out surgery.
My brother just had his colonoscopy WIDE AWAKE 😳 … he does t trust them to not jab him while he is under! I don’t think I could do that but I absolutely would be a little worried
I understand, but like you, don't know if I could do that. After my last one, I decided I was done with those. I've decided I'm done with mammograms also. At age 70, if I get cancer, where am I going to get treatment if I don't trust anyone? As I say often, I'm in a win win situation because I'm a follower of Christ. "For me to live is Christ and to die is gain."
Do you think I should do the same or should I go back to my former physician, who's affiliated with a large hospital? They just allayed all my fears by pointing me to this comforting information.
"The Pfizer vaccine and the Moderna vaccine use mRNA to instruct the cells in your body to make a harmless piece of the “spike protein” found on the surface of COVID-19. Your immune system is tricked into thinking this is a virus and makes antibodies. A live virus is not included in the vaccine. Your body destroys the mRNA and gets rid of it. It doesn’t stay in your body or alter any DNA. The other ingredients in the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are salt, sugar, and fat."
(I'm being sarcastic. They sent me this info in response to my message telling them I would not be back unless they have faced reality and stopped following the covid agenda.)
That entire statement is nothing more than a hope and some of it flat out proven wrong long ago and the rest intentionally misleading. First of all, supposedly the engineered spike code lacks an infective ability, cannot bind to ace2 but I’ve read the code includes extra uracil as binders which might, through inflexibility, incapacitate for binding … but … unintentionally (?) also may shield against polymerase breakdown which could cause these molecules to NOT be “immediately destroyed”. The truth is WE DONT KNOW. Secondly sars cov2 spike protein is quite cytotoxic as a fragment, no nucleocapsid necessary. Thirdly, fat and sugar are nutritive, we do not describe injection fillers this way … unspeakable bull****. They flat out think we are morons.
I have multiple medical issues so unfortunately, I have a LOT of doctors. I have two allergists including a mast cell specialist, two gastroenterologists, two neurologists…I could go on. I also worked in nursing before my health caused me to “retire” early. So suffice it to say, I came into this with a pretty good working knowledge of the system as a whole and how to discern doctors bad or biased attitudes from the get go. I knew how to advocate for myself and was pretty guarded but believed my doctors at least cared about my personal case and health as a whole. I definitely don’t believe that about most of them now because of what I’ve been through with them. The majority have shown they are just bureaucratic hags and care more about policy than patient and I adjust my conversations accordingly depending on whom I’m seeing. It’s been such an eye opener and shame because some of these doctors I’ve been with for over 15 years and my primary care was actually my coworker for almost that long as well. Their “groupthink” has now only made me 10x more educated and more guarded about my care. Obviously I’m only human and I’m dealing with a lot but, I try not to let them get anything past me or manipulate me about anything. I’ve called my specialists out on their lies, one doctor literally told me because I wasn’t jabbed, if I caught COVID, there was nothing that could be done for me…despite the fact that monoclonal antibodies were abundant at that time. Yeah, I didn’t let that one go that day. No one brings the jab up anymore but, during earlier days I used to go prepared to each appointment with a binder of evidence and my particular talking points for why I’m not getting the shot incase they tried to divert topic of appointment. I shouldn’t have had to do this, I’m a patient who has anaphylaxis that has reacted to past vaccines, that should have been enough for them to accept no as an acceptable answer but, I just always went ready. I always bring notes to my appointments, I need them to remember what I want to talk about that day but I find that referring to them keeps doctor on topic too.
And after some 15 years of doctoring, has your health improved? This is what I cannot stomach about the medical system. You go into it with some medical issue and they want to keep you a patient for life never figuring out what to do to cure your ills. Hope you do find some solutions.
This is a bit of a loaded question. I was born with a genetic connective tissue disorder called Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome (EDS) for which there is no “cure”. However, for me, this treatment is more physical therapy approaches and avoidance behaviors. I don’t even have an EDS specialist because frankly, one doesn’t exist. I have Dysautonomia/POTS which is very common to develop in those with EDS as it damages nerves and autonomic system. That damage unfortunately is permanent. I also have Mast Cell Activation Syndrome, again very common in those with EDS/POTS, and I also have Crohn’s disease. People like to use the word “cure” in disorders that will never go away but for the grace of God, but for which remission is definitely a more appropriate word and able to be achieved. It isn’t always achieved unfortunately but, you just keep working at it. I work more towards dealing with the root causes of my symptoms, food intolerances, chemicals, toxins, etc., not exposing myself to things that will flare my symptoms/disorders. The best I have been able to do is make sure my doctors understand that this is a two way street, they do not run the show and dictate what and or how I decide to treat things. I’ve been extremely disappointed with their COVID group think and lapse in help they’ve been for a mask related injury I had (long story), that’s where they are policy over patient but, for my disorders I’ve done mostly ok with my team on leading my care and working together for the most part as a team.
I am so sorry for your ills. I need to stop complaining. But, you are so astute. They have made you this way and you have great value to others because of what you go through on a daily basis. Wow. All the best to you. :)
To me, a frightening aspect is that -- except for Big Pharma, most of the staff are NOT in it for the money. I'm on three "primary prevention" medications, all generic. Nobody's making a mint off my statin, hypertension med, or the baby aspirin. The Covid-19 (EUA) products without exception, are paid directly by the government. Although sky-high drug prices are an issue, the worst problem in my opinion are the incentives and mandates influencing doctors. For example, Doc probably gets some type of incentive pay to keep Old Doorknob on the primary prevention "recommended" from CDC/WHO/FDA/etc. But those "suggestions" are often mandates, and Doc risks discipline, dismissal or even civil and criminal penalties. In many cases, what our medical care now consists of are decisions made by a committee far away that will affect thousands or millions, and underling doctors have little autonomy but instead feel forced to follow those "guidelines."
Ok but, let’s go with the vaccines, the problem is that physicians do get incentives from health insurance plans for giving shots. “Efficiency bonus” or “quality of care” bonus. If they get a certain percentage of their patients vaccinated, they get a bonus. I can remember the doctors in my office having contests to see who could rack up the most flu shots in a season. We nurses used to keep count. There was an article where a pediatrician tried to downplay these bonuses as a nothing burger because he said, insurance companies wouldn’t offer incentives to boost numbers of something that would hurt the well-being of children when they are the ones not only footing the bill for the vaccine in the first place, but would also have to foot the bill if the child became vaccine injured. That wouldn’t make sense they said. So, it’s not a conflict of interest, they’re saving lives they said. Ah….but they are footing the bill! They just aren’t calling them or admitting they are vaccine injuries. How many children are developing Crohn’s and POTS and ME/CFS and food allergies and countless other autoimmune and chronic issues that they now require long term care for that they will never tie to their vaccine protocol? I shudder to think. The COVID shots, now that the cost has been rolled over to insurance plans, will have these same bonuses however, I would not be surprised that even when the government alone was paying for them, insurance companies made an actuarial decision that they would potentially lower their costs so substantially (you know, from the winter of death and despair or whatever Biden promised the unjabbed) that they gave doctors bonuses for giving them. Physicians also do still get biased by drug companies to prescribe their meds. It had slowed down to the drug lunch/dinner by the time I left the office but, an article in 2020 said that for every $1 spent on a doctor, they got a $2.64 back in revenue for a 164% return in investment. In years past when they were actually buying doctors football game tickets and taking them out on the town so to speak, this number was a 200-1700% return. So it may only be a free meal, but when you rack up those free meals it’s still like getting a bonus. I used to love Panera and Olive Garden days. All they have to do is prescribe Lipitor and check no substitute permitted. I think that is happening way less now though. Too many consumers are aware of cost saving generics now and insurances have gotten a lot more staunch with their preferred drug lists. Yes, doctors also have specific guidelines they are told by their state to follow. Here in Maine we had the 5210 program for kids with posters all over the walls and gave each well child a free book. You’re not wrong about the premise that decisions are lots of times made for us by committees, boards, etc. looking at us as a collective rather than what is best for us as an individual patient. I have a problem when the doctors are so indoctrinated or set in following a policy that they will actually harm a patient or blatantly do what’s not in their best interest just to save their license or reputation etc. What’s the point of being a doctor then?
I am at the point of wanting to learn wilderness medicine just to avoid that ER trip. The problem is that you need to practice your skills or you forget them.
Same. I could see the system was not perfect but I routinely went to bat in public discussions, defending the role big pharma plays in R&D ... no more. I am firmly anti pharma. My kids and husband too, they’ve lost our family
I've never trusted them and hardly used them at all.
To the point that in the 1990s I considered having "no heroic measures, do not resuscitate, no organ donations" tattooed on my abdomen so they couldn't pretend not to see it after a car wreck or some other involuntary admission incident.
Now I have an even greater distrust and expectation of them pulling funny business.
I never got one... And back then the injection status wasn't a concern.
Nowadays, yes, I'd probably modify it to add "No insurance and I refuse to pay for any medical procedures. Do not vaccinate under any circumstances, I have a lawyer and know how to use it."
Of course I can't afford a lawyer either, but they don't need to know that
Ya, I thought the same until I broke my wrist this summer! Lol! Literally I can deal with cancer myself but a broken bone took me to medical treatment. It was unsatisfactory in the EXTREME!! Five hour wait in emergency while they "triaged" a bunch of snotty nosed babies and toddlers. Thank the gods that's over with now!! Lol!
Contemporary. Still remember that moment back in the '80s when I "just happened" ;) to be listening to that mid afternoon radio talk show. The guest noted, "It's *expensive* to stay healthy! But it's a hell of a lot *more* expensive to get sick."
Instant conversion, like the road to Damascus.
The extra expense feeding health in many ways over the course of nearly 40 years has been so worth it.
And now's where I really start to sound alternatively anecdotey. Fractured a wrist (first broken bone ever) about a decade ago. Skipped the ER, it was a Sunday. Knew the only thing they could offer for the simple fracture was an x-ray, immobilization and medication for pain and possibly anti inflammatory. Let me tell you, too, the pain-o-meter was at least 8/10. I applied #2 above, skipped #3 and applied pranic healing (somehow, through waves of nausea due to pain). Couldn't get squeezed in to orthopedic office schedule til Tues. Saw a PA because the MD surgeon didn't have space on his schedule. Looking at films PA said, this is going to need surgery. Applied hard cast, scheduled to see MD a week later. Pranic healing applied daily - through a network of healers. A week later, MD has a look at 1 week old films and films from 20 minutes earlier and says, Yeah we'll have to do surgery but I'm booked at least two weeks out. New hard cast, office visit scheduled in a week, pranic healing continued to be applied daily in the interim. New films at next visit (now 16 days from date of injury) and MD says, Well I'm not jumping out of my shorts to do surgery. !! Projected 6-8 weeks in a cast plus a year of rehab. Short story, with first daily pranic healing, then 4-5x/wk for about 3 weeks, then diminishing frequency, no surgery needed, I was out of a cast in a total of 5 weeks, back to 90-95% full function in ~8 months.
The Creator has given us gifts we have only begun to discover. So much information suppressed for millennia. Even Yeoshoua the Nazarene said (imperfect translation) All these things I do, you shall do and more.
The Great Awakening is multi level. We can't even conceive what awaits. What a time to be alive and awake on planet Earth!
And, the cool thing is stuff that looks like body parts is the food that helps those body parts. Like a walnut looks like your brain and it helps your brain. Very overlooked!!
I get it. But... every time my dad's been hospitalized for trauma (a lot!), mom's had to go with him, sleep in his room, and basically act as as his bodyguard, because every dang time, doc looks at his chart, sees his medication history, calls the neurologist, and tries to put him back on seizure meds that he hasn't taken in decades (he no longer has seizures). Those meds are dangerous, highly addictive, he doesn't need them, and the side effects are so awful he'd rather die than take them again. And the docs DO NOT LISTEN and do not respect his wishes. Over the years, we've had to drag in our pastor, a TV station friend, and a lawyer, to keep the med-pushers at bay.
So, yeah, he needed major surgery and the hospital was the only place to get it-- but we had to defend him from unnecessary interventions the whole time, and then spend months fighting the resulting billing fraud (where they bill us anyway for treatments he refused, doctors he didn't see, private rooms he didn't get-- it feels vengeful rather than merely incompetent).
Hospitals need to lose their monopoly power. They use the "we're the only people who can do an emergency appendectomy or save you after a car accident" thing to justify so much of the evil they do. It's a hostage situation at this point. They need to be stripped down to where trauma is the *only* thing they do, because everything else is covered by small inpatient facilities all over the place. Maternity hospitals are still a thing in other parts of the world. They're safer than regular hospitals, and more pleasant. No reason we couldn't have a small, friendly, 10-bed hospital in every neighborhood, that could deal with your appendix, your gallbladder, your pancreatitis, that electrolyte imbalance...
I was mildly skeptical of certain medical practices before all this. But still saw doctors, hospitals, and modern medicine as a net positive.
The last two years have killed every last particle of faith I had in mainstream medicine. I'd have to think really hard about going to the ER even for broken bones, at this point.
I have a homeopathic doc. What a difference!!!
I wish I could find a homeopathic doctor in my area. I am done with the others. I won't listen to anything they say ever again.
They do phone consults. Or find a naturopath (we unlicensed ones aren't as kooky as we are portrayed). Or for basic care, find a good herbalist (many are woke though 🙄)
How does one do a proper physical examination over the phone?
homeopaths don't do physical exams in the medical sense. they would ask all sorts of questions like "what makes it better?" "what color is your snot?" "what flavor is your snot?" etc. but i agree - i only take on telehelath clients in very special circumstances, and very reluctantly. health care should depend on local resources and be delivered in-person; sadly, people with chronic conditions (most of my own clientele) need a lot of non-local support (generally in the form of nutraceuticals).
I've never heard homeopathy couched as psychotherapy.
My homeopath of 40 years has never done a consult with me that took less than 1.5 hours. It's not 'psychotherapy', it's the recognition that our personal terrain (physical/emotional circumstances), our attitude and state of mind and our bodies are all interlinked.
Psychotherapy is based on one's "personal terrain (physical/emotional circumstances), our attitude and state of mind (because) our bodies are all interlinked."
I lucked out and had a friend who went and got her doctorate.
She got a doctorate in what?
Homeopathic medicine. That’s not the actual name lol the real name is too fancy.
Why would a doctorate in that be required or desirable?
Once you have a working understanding of the operation of your own body, a respectable doctor is very useful in accessing the health system's utilities.
But how do you locate a respectable medic? Either you have to have a LOT of cash, or extremely good insurance, to pick and choose
If you have the ability to discern a lack of respectability, why don't use that discernment and the mind that enabled it to educate and doctor yourself?
A few good books on the subject are all you need for a medical library.
I highly recommend Vitamin K2 and the Calcium Paradox: How a Little-Known Vitamin Could Save Your Life by Kate Rheaume-Bleue and the writings of the late Dr. William D. Kelley, D.D.S., M.S., which are available from drkelley.net
there are direct primary care practices popping all over the pacific northwest, definitely in north idaho. not sure about other places - but that's the magic term. the business model is usually a monthly membership with donations. the goal is to be affordable and to actually serve the community.
That sounds like what is called concierge medicine.
The only thing you need from a respectable medic is ordering procedures and tests that you have convinced them are indicated and/or efficacious. Mine had no problem adding a 25(OH)D and hs-CRP to the CBC and metabolic panels he runs on me every year as a part of my Medicare physical. He doesn't really think much of vitamin D3, but he was very impressed with my consistent .4 on the hs-CRP three years running, which assures both of us that I don't have any significant inflammatory issues.
Ulta Lab Tests is available in some places in the USA, so you may not even need to use a doctor to get those labs.
I'll still need the doctor to tell me what he learns from them and learned about them in medical school.
Are Ulta Lab Tests paid for by Medicare, as all of mine are, and do they have a collection facility in Cody, Wyoming and Quartzsite, Arizona?
Here's an option for a way to start searching:
https://aapsonline.org/
Check this out. The benefits are real and known for ages…
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RuOvn4UqznU
That’s wonderful!!! I’m starting to grow turmeric etc to start making my own medicine💜💜💜
I grew ginger root for the first time this year. One of the easiest things I've ever grown. I think garlic comes in first!
Five years ago I'd have rolled my eyes at that quackery. Now... I wish I had a homeopathic doc.
Still not sure I believe in what they're doing, but it sure as heck isn't going to hurt me! Plus I've had really good experience with chiropractors since then, which practice also makes no sense whatsoever to me... but I guess it doesn't matter if it makes sense, as long as it actually works.
What’s interesting about holistic medicine is that is definitely doesn’t work like pharmaceuticals. Take honey for instance. I raise bees and my family hasn’t had allergies for 7 years. It didn’t work right away but over time we have all become immune to pollens because of the honey. A lot of vitamins don’t work right away but over time you have less brain fog or less pain moving around etc. like cats claw is amazing for joint discomfort, but it doesn’t work like motrin within 2 hours. Anyway, I hope you look into it!🥰
That's such a good point, Christy -- time. Some things take more time than others. It's more a way of life than a way of medicine.
Absolutely. So much of it is mindset, habits, stress management etc.
Is his degree respected by the local medical board?
If it is, likely he's corrupt and a tool of the medical-industrial establishment. Medical boards have been the bane of ethical medics for the last several years, or longer.
Especially now that the only standard of care they honor are the FDA's and CDC's recommendations and regard Hippocratic discretion as malpractice.
Local medical board? Vonu, they are the least I would trust!
They are the ones that determine which medical competence you will have access to.
Is that an oxymoron?
no
I am with you. I will not go to any doc again. They stole whatever respect I had and trust is not something I will ever give them. Again. It is a whole pile of steaming crap. And...don't even get me started on the blood supply.
If anyone needs a blood transfusion, they will likely get blood tainted with the Wuhan shots as I don't think Red Cross is maintaining separate supplies. If anyone can prove me wrong, please do.
Sadie, totally agree. I was complete homeopath for years, then problems you NEED the system. Breast Cancer. Kidney Stones. Torn Rotator Cuff. I absolutely negotiated all treatments. Best pain relief for me.. ice therapy. But, honest I’d love to think I’d never need a hospital. … trust…. No.
Yes...hubs and I just talked about this. The system ruined my boobs looking for cancer. It was awful. They were almost disappointed in the result. Gross. We just have to take care of ourselves as best we can and be discerning, but when you are in a hospital, you have no choice on who looks at you. Right? And...an older friend just mentioned that the government gives (or gave) 8K towards burial costs if one died of covid. Did you hear that? I know of all the other incentives to get jabbed or be on a respirator or have rundeathisnear, but I hadn't heard that.
Yes, some hospitals paid 3 times that…. Sick.
Criminal incentive.
Yes. My mother died in April 2021 and my brother applied for and got about 7000 for expenses. My wife died in Jan 2022 and the death cert was careful not to say covid.
So sorry about your loss.♥
Maybe you need to improve your discernment of their competence.
If you were talking about improving discernment of their INcompetence I'd be more likely to agree with you.
Your quirky capitalization wouldn't indicate discernment.
Um...yeah. Can you not discern that SomeDude used those capital letters for emphasis? Would you have "approved" of something like this: "𝒊𝒏competence"?
I've discerned that you don't think he can defend himself online.
Thanks Medical-Industry or Medical Sheep Vonu! What would SadieJoy do without your snark?
:)♥
I know what I'd do without yours.
Could you go pound sand, please?
The chance of that happening is less than a snowball's chance in hell.
Yes. I do. It is hard to be so stupid. But, even someone as stupid as I am would have to go to a lot of doctors to find one who is "competent". And, I am healthy. I might have overstated "not going to any doc again." I do have an annual checkup. We have a neighbor who is a doc and we have moved ourselves into his practice. And, we do go to their place for dinner.
The single easiest way to find a competent doctor is to look for one that stopped working for a hospital in favor of having his own practice.
I live in a small town, but over the last 20 years I've watched independent doctors be more or less forced to join various medical corporations. I long ago found a husband-wife doctor team who operate their own family medicine office, and they are totally independent. They are religious (Catholic, I think) and wanted to practice medicine according to their faith and without a corporate overlord telling them what to do. They never pushed me to get a covid vaccine and seemed to understand why my family and I refused it. They also said they would be happy to give a prescription for Ivermectin if I wanted it, although they were unsure any local pharmacy would fill it (I found out an independent compounding pharmacy would be happy to fill it!). I'm very grateful and lucky to have such great doctors, but I do see they are less common these days.
They probably wouldn't be forced to join anything if they were good enough to have solo practices.
That is a real Blessing!
That is a real Blessing!
Agree, they are wonderful.
A very good point. This is what my former physician's office (affiliated with a large hospital system) advises about the covid vaccines, straight from their website's FAQ section. "The Pfizer vaccine and the Moderna vaccine use mRNA to instruct the cells in your body to make a harmless piece of the “spike protein” found on the surface of COVID-19. Your immune system is tricked into thinking this is a virus and makes antibodies. A live virus is not included in the vaccine. Your body destroys the mRNA and gets rid of it. It doesn’t stay in your body or alter any DNA. The other ingredients in the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are salt, sugar, and fat."
The contents vary by batch.
howbadismybatch.com has the details.
Thanks. I became aware of that site a few months ago. Do you think it is intentional, for nefarious reasons? I have thought that, IF, this is part of a depopulation plan, they couldn't have every single person falling over dead soon after vaccination. If a lot of people seem to be fine, then they can be told side effects are rare and people will continue to get the shots.
There has always been a wide range of side effects and their appearance.
Nothing can be more nefarious than the "vaccines" themselves.
Politicians and select celebrities undoubtedly got saline shots.
Pfizer own clinical trials showed varying dosages being tested (as we are still in phase 3 trials until Mar 2023), including a placebo. There's absolutely no question they are dosing batches differently. They've even pegged the coordination between Pfizer and Moderna to release and distribute "bad" batches at different times/locations, ie, as Pfizer deaths wind down in one area, Moderna deaths will start to rise in another area.
On a scale of trust —-
Telemarketers
MSM
FBI and governmental agencies
Modern medicine
Telemarketers, MSM, and governmental agencies don't need the approval of crooked doctors on medical boards.
So true. I have had to read and study for myself and I have lost all faith and trust in the medical industry doctors are nothing more than compliance officers they are incapable of independent thought they only follow the guidance/protocol given down from on high. They will follow it even if it means you die.
My cousin (early 70's) had a heart valve problem for decades and finally had it "repaired" as his cardiologist convinced him it was the thing to do. Now, about 15 months later, he is regretting that decision as his health is going south.
That's the scary/sad (or SADS) part.
Totally agree and I don't trust them not to inject me forcibly or lie and give me the covid jab while saying it's something else. That rules out surgery.
Isn't that terrible that we have to think that way?? But, you are not alone.
My brother just had his colonoscopy WIDE AWAKE 😳 … he does t trust them to not jab him while he is under! I don’t think I could do that but I absolutely would be a little worried
I understand, but like you, don't know if I could do that. After my last one, I decided I was done with those. I've decided I'm done with mammograms also. At age 70, if I get cancer, where am I going to get treatment if I don't trust anyone? As I say often, I'm in a win win situation because I'm a follower of Christ. "For me to live is Christ and to die is gain."
Amen!
Prior to surgery, you are given papers to sign. Read them carefully.
I wonder if there is a way to test blood before and after a hospital stay to be sure nothing nefarious was injected.
I don't blame you one bit. I am now my own doctor and doing well treating my problems with herbs and supplements.
Do you think I should do the same or should I go back to my former physician, who's affiliated with a large hospital? They just allayed all my fears by pointing me to this comforting information.
"The Pfizer vaccine and the Moderna vaccine use mRNA to instruct the cells in your body to make a harmless piece of the “spike protein” found on the surface of COVID-19. Your immune system is tricked into thinking this is a virus and makes antibodies. A live virus is not included in the vaccine. Your body destroys the mRNA and gets rid of it. It doesn’t stay in your body or alter any DNA. The other ingredients in the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are salt, sugar, and fat."
(I'm being sarcastic. They sent me this info in response to my message telling them I would not be back unless they have faced reality and stopped following the covid agenda.)
That entire statement is nothing more than a hope and some of it flat out proven wrong long ago and the rest intentionally misleading. First of all, supposedly the engineered spike code lacks an infective ability, cannot bind to ace2 but I’ve read the code includes extra uracil as binders which might, through inflexibility, incapacitate for binding … but … unintentionally (?) also may shield against polymerase breakdown which could cause these molecules to NOT be “immediately destroyed”. The truth is WE DONT KNOW. Secondly sars cov2 spike protein is quite cytotoxic as a fragment, no nucleocapsid necessary. Thirdly, fat and sugar are nutritive, we do not describe injection fillers this way … unspeakable bull****. They flat out think we are morons.
Don't forget this. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33330870/
They'll never admit their perfidy
Defnitely that's the way to goi
I have multiple medical issues so unfortunately, I have a LOT of doctors. I have two allergists including a mast cell specialist, two gastroenterologists, two neurologists…I could go on. I also worked in nursing before my health caused me to “retire” early. So suffice it to say, I came into this with a pretty good working knowledge of the system as a whole and how to discern doctors bad or biased attitudes from the get go. I knew how to advocate for myself and was pretty guarded but believed my doctors at least cared about my personal case and health as a whole. I definitely don’t believe that about most of them now because of what I’ve been through with them. The majority have shown they are just bureaucratic hags and care more about policy than patient and I adjust my conversations accordingly depending on whom I’m seeing. It’s been such an eye opener and shame because some of these doctors I’ve been with for over 15 years and my primary care was actually my coworker for almost that long as well. Their “groupthink” has now only made me 10x more educated and more guarded about my care. Obviously I’m only human and I’m dealing with a lot but, I try not to let them get anything past me or manipulate me about anything. I’ve called my specialists out on their lies, one doctor literally told me because I wasn’t jabbed, if I caught COVID, there was nothing that could be done for me…despite the fact that monoclonal antibodies were abundant at that time. Yeah, I didn’t let that one go that day. No one brings the jab up anymore but, during earlier days I used to go prepared to each appointment with a binder of evidence and my particular talking points for why I’m not getting the shot incase they tried to divert topic of appointment. I shouldn’t have had to do this, I’m a patient who has anaphylaxis that has reacted to past vaccines, that should have been enough for them to accept no as an acceptable answer but, I just always went ready. I always bring notes to my appointments, I need them to remember what I want to talk about that day but I find that referring to them keeps doctor on topic too.
And after some 15 years of doctoring, has your health improved? This is what I cannot stomach about the medical system. You go into it with some medical issue and they want to keep you a patient for life never figuring out what to do to cure your ills. Hope you do find some solutions.
This is a bit of a loaded question. I was born with a genetic connective tissue disorder called Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome (EDS) for which there is no “cure”. However, for me, this treatment is more physical therapy approaches and avoidance behaviors. I don’t even have an EDS specialist because frankly, one doesn’t exist. I have Dysautonomia/POTS which is very common to develop in those with EDS as it damages nerves and autonomic system. That damage unfortunately is permanent. I also have Mast Cell Activation Syndrome, again very common in those with EDS/POTS, and I also have Crohn’s disease. People like to use the word “cure” in disorders that will never go away but for the grace of God, but for which remission is definitely a more appropriate word and able to be achieved. It isn’t always achieved unfortunately but, you just keep working at it. I work more towards dealing with the root causes of my symptoms, food intolerances, chemicals, toxins, etc., not exposing myself to things that will flare my symptoms/disorders. The best I have been able to do is make sure my doctors understand that this is a two way street, they do not run the show and dictate what and or how I decide to treat things. I’ve been extremely disappointed with their COVID group think and lapse in help they’ve been for a mask related injury I had (long story), that’s where they are policy over patient but, for my disorders I’ve done mostly ok with my team on leading my care and working together for the most part as a team.
I am so sorry for your ills. I need to stop complaining. But, you are so astute. They have made you this way and you have great value to others because of what you go through on a daily basis. Wow. All the best to you. :)
To me, a frightening aspect is that -- except for Big Pharma, most of the staff are NOT in it for the money. I'm on three "primary prevention" medications, all generic. Nobody's making a mint off my statin, hypertension med, or the baby aspirin. The Covid-19 (EUA) products without exception, are paid directly by the government. Although sky-high drug prices are an issue, the worst problem in my opinion are the incentives and mandates influencing doctors. For example, Doc probably gets some type of incentive pay to keep Old Doorknob on the primary prevention "recommended" from CDC/WHO/FDA/etc. But those "suggestions" are often mandates, and Doc risks discipline, dismissal or even civil and criminal penalties. In many cases, what our medical care now consists of are decisions made by a committee far away that will affect thousands or millions, and underling doctors have little autonomy but instead feel forced to follow those "guidelines."
Ok but, let’s go with the vaccines, the problem is that physicians do get incentives from health insurance plans for giving shots. “Efficiency bonus” or “quality of care” bonus. If they get a certain percentage of their patients vaccinated, they get a bonus. I can remember the doctors in my office having contests to see who could rack up the most flu shots in a season. We nurses used to keep count. There was an article where a pediatrician tried to downplay these bonuses as a nothing burger because he said, insurance companies wouldn’t offer incentives to boost numbers of something that would hurt the well-being of children when they are the ones not only footing the bill for the vaccine in the first place, but would also have to foot the bill if the child became vaccine injured. That wouldn’t make sense they said. So, it’s not a conflict of interest, they’re saving lives they said. Ah….but they are footing the bill! They just aren’t calling them or admitting they are vaccine injuries. How many children are developing Crohn’s and POTS and ME/CFS and food allergies and countless other autoimmune and chronic issues that they now require long term care for that they will never tie to their vaccine protocol? I shudder to think. The COVID shots, now that the cost has been rolled over to insurance plans, will have these same bonuses however, I would not be surprised that even when the government alone was paying for them, insurance companies made an actuarial decision that they would potentially lower their costs so substantially (you know, from the winter of death and despair or whatever Biden promised the unjabbed) that they gave doctors bonuses for giving them. Physicians also do still get biased by drug companies to prescribe their meds. It had slowed down to the drug lunch/dinner by the time I left the office but, an article in 2020 said that for every $1 spent on a doctor, they got a $2.64 back in revenue for a 164% return in investment. In years past when they were actually buying doctors football game tickets and taking them out on the town so to speak, this number was a 200-1700% return. So it may only be a free meal, but when you rack up those free meals it’s still like getting a bonus. I used to love Panera and Olive Garden days. All they have to do is prescribe Lipitor and check no substitute permitted. I think that is happening way less now though. Too many consumers are aware of cost saving generics now and insurances have gotten a lot more staunch with their preferred drug lists. Yes, doctors also have specific guidelines they are told by their state to follow. Here in Maine we had the 5210 program for kids with posters all over the walls and gave each well child a free book. You’re not wrong about the premise that decisions are lots of times made for us by committees, boards, etc. looking at us as a collective rather than what is best for us as an individual patient. I have a problem when the doctors are so indoctrinated or set in following a policy that they will actually harm a patient or blatantly do what’s not in their best interest just to save their license or reputation etc. What’s the point of being a doctor then?
I am at the point of wanting to learn wilderness medicine just to avoid that ER trip. The problem is that you need to practice your skills or you forget them.
Wilderness medicine doesn’t handle a lot of stuff. Seriously.
We practice first aid to get you to a hospital, not keep you from it.
Same. I could see the system was not perfect but I routinely went to bat in public discussions, defending the role big pharma plays in R&D ... no more. I am firmly anti pharma. My kids and husband too, they’ve lost our family
I've never trusted them and hardly used them at all.
To the point that in the 1990s I considered having "no heroic measures, do not resuscitate, no organ donations" tattooed on my abdomen so they couldn't pretend not to see it after a car wreck or some other involuntary admission incident.
Now I have an even greater distrust and expectation of them pulling funny business.
add NO VAXXES to your Tattoo!
I never got one... And back then the injection status wasn't a concern.
Nowadays, yes, I'd probably modify it to add "No insurance and I refuse to pay for any medical procedures. Do not vaccinate under any circumstances, I have a lawyer and know how to use it."
Of course I can't afford a lawyer either, but they don't need to know that
Also add -No blood products...
Ya, I thought the same until I broke my wrist this summer! Lol! Literally I can deal with cancer myself but a broken bone took me to medical treatment. It was unsatisfactory in the EXTREME!! Five hour wait in emergency while they "triaged" a bunch of snotty nosed babies and toddlers. Thank the gods that's over with now!! Lol!
Ya,no kidding! I'm sixty five and I'm so glad I too changed up diet and lifestyle. Food is your medicine and medicine is your food!
Contemporary. Still remember that moment back in the '80s when I "just happened" ;) to be listening to that mid afternoon radio talk show. The guest noted, "It's *expensive* to stay healthy! But it's a hell of a lot *more* expensive to get sick."
Instant conversion, like the road to Damascus.
The extra expense feeding health in many ways over the course of nearly 40 years has been so worth it.
And now's where I really start to sound alternatively anecdotey. Fractured a wrist (first broken bone ever) about a decade ago. Skipped the ER, it was a Sunday. Knew the only thing they could offer for the simple fracture was an x-ray, immobilization and medication for pain and possibly anti inflammatory. Let me tell you, too, the pain-o-meter was at least 8/10. I applied #2 above, skipped #3 and applied pranic healing (somehow, through waves of nausea due to pain). Couldn't get squeezed in to orthopedic office schedule til Tues. Saw a PA because the MD surgeon didn't have space on his schedule. Looking at films PA said, this is going to need surgery. Applied hard cast, scheduled to see MD a week later. Pranic healing applied daily - through a network of healers. A week later, MD has a look at 1 week old films and films from 20 minutes earlier and says, Yeah we'll have to do surgery but I'm booked at least two weeks out. New hard cast, office visit scheduled in a week, pranic healing continued to be applied daily in the interim. New films at next visit (now 16 days from date of injury) and MD says, Well I'm not jumping out of my shorts to do surgery. !! Projected 6-8 weeks in a cast plus a year of rehab. Short story, with first daily pranic healing, then 4-5x/wk for about 3 weeks, then diminishing frequency, no surgery needed, I was out of a cast in a total of 5 weeks, back to 90-95% full function in ~8 months.
The Creator has given us gifts we have only begun to discover. So much information suppressed for millennia. Even Yeoshoua the Nazarene said (imperfect translation) All these things I do, you shall do and more.
The Great Awakening is multi level. We can't even conceive what awaits. What a time to be alive and awake on planet Earth!
That is great. Thank you!
Food is medicine and medicine is your food....AMEN.
And, the cool thing is stuff that looks like body parts is the food that helps those body parts. Like a walnut looks like your brain and it helps your brain. Very overlooked!!
As a RN of over 40 yrs, I agree with you 1000%
Trauma has always been mainstream medicine's highest competency.
I get it. But... every time my dad's been hospitalized for trauma (a lot!), mom's had to go with him, sleep in his room, and basically act as as his bodyguard, because every dang time, doc looks at his chart, sees his medication history, calls the neurologist, and tries to put him back on seizure meds that he hasn't taken in decades (he no longer has seizures). Those meds are dangerous, highly addictive, he doesn't need them, and the side effects are so awful he'd rather die than take them again. And the docs DO NOT LISTEN and do not respect his wishes. Over the years, we've had to drag in our pastor, a TV station friend, and a lawyer, to keep the med-pushers at bay.
So, yeah, he needed major surgery and the hospital was the only place to get it-- but we had to defend him from unnecessary interventions the whole time, and then spend months fighting the resulting billing fraud (where they bill us anyway for treatments he refused, doctors he didn't see, private rooms he didn't get-- it feels vengeful rather than merely incompetent).
Hospitals need to lose their monopoly power. They use the "we're the only people who can do an emergency appendectomy or save you after a car accident" thing to justify so much of the evil they do. It's a hostage situation at this point. They need to be stripped down to where trauma is the *only* thing they do, because everything else is covered by small inpatient facilities all over the place. Maternity hospitals are still a thing in other parts of the world. They're safer than regular hospitals, and more pleasant. No reason we couldn't have a small, friendly, 10-bed hospital in every neighborhood, that could deal with your appendix, your gallbladder, your pancreatitis, that electrolyte imbalance...
Sadly, if you call that competent.
It it weren't competent, it wouldn't be medicine's highest competency.
Surgical reconstruction of the human body is something no other medical specialty could accomplish.