Running and relocating is actually a very viable answer. Stubbornness in and of it itself is not a virtue.
My first priority is protecting my family, period end of story. If I judge where I live to be unsafe for my family then I'm going to pack up and leave. If you were trying to raise kids in a gang-infested, drug-riddled neighborhood…
Running and relocating is actually a very viable answer. Stubbornness in and of it itself is not a virtue.
My first priority is protecting my family, period end of story. If I judge where I live to be unsafe for my family then I'm going to pack up and leave. If you were trying to raise kids in a gang-infested, drug-riddled neighborhood, would you say, "running and relocating isn't the answer" or would you get the hell out?
There's no valor in fighting hopelessly lost causes, sometimes you have to make a decision as to what's best for you and your family and move on. I'm not saying that Colorado is a lost cause, but making blanket statements that relocating is not an answer is absurd. It may not be for everyone, but it very well be the best choice for many.
People in the heavily blue areas are willingly electing people that are intentionally destroying the very fabric of society, and enabling outright evil. This is obvious, but the residents are voting for them anyways, they want this. Why would any sane person not relocate in this situation?
BTW, I'm in California (a very nice part of it fortunately) and was born and raised here. But once I retire we are getting the hell out as I have no intention of being governed by evil lunatics one day longer than needed.
I was born and raised in California and my husband and I planned to get out as soon as he retired. He died at the beginning of the covid (and I'm pretty sure it was from covid), and I escaped California as soon as possible. I only wish we had moved earlier.
I'm sorry for your loss. There is probably much unspoken grief in your statement. Those of us who have not been there can't really understand your loss. For that I am sorry.
Thank you for your kind words. My regret is that he would have liked where we ended up. I am consoled that since his death was early in the craziness, he didn't see what has become of our country...pretty sure the lockdowns would have killed him, if he had survived.
Yes but everyone can just move to Floriduh. DeSantis could be gone in an election cycle and a tyrant can flip it all in a single term (i.e. what Biden is doing nationally).
I get your point but we need strategies to push the fight everywhere. California has more republican voters than any other state, so it would be a great place to make a stand.
There may be a lot but unfortunately we are outnumbered nearly two to one. That my friend, is a lost cause, at least for the next twenty years. I have better things to do for the next two decades than bang my head against a wall.
Our family is blessed that we live in an isolated, coastal enclave where we are largely buffered from California's pathologies. However, it's getting worse every year as the state is becoming more and more intrusive in local affairs. We already had to pull our kids out of public schools (one of the top five districts academically in California) as it became clear the school staff were deviantly hell-bent on corrupting my kids. Could I have gone on the warpath and maybe turned the district around in five years? Perhaps. But during those five years I risk losing my kids to these perverts. That's a risk I'm not willing to take. We got them out and never looked back.
Way too many on our side have some romantic notion of fighting for "principles" and have no clue as to how far things are gone. We are not talking about pedestrian issues like tax rates, but our children's safety and embracing all out degeneracy. You have to look out for your family first as no one else will.
These sick people literally think you as a parent are the problem, and that they are entitled to sexualize your child and keep it secret from you. We have zero common cause with these people, they are insane and demonic. There is no way in hell I'll keep my kids in this environment out of foolish stubbornness or some misguided sense of principle. My family comes absolutely first. I'm not waiting around for when Newsom next declares that our family attending an uncompromising Bible-believing church is a hate crime, as that's where this is heading.
If people want to stay and fight this then that is up to them, some people are gluttons for punishment and really enjoy hopeless crusades. What these people fail to realize, is that these blue areas are overwhelming voting for this! So either the people agree with it, or they are so stupid they have no idea what is going on. Either way, I can see a clear losing cause and know when to cut my losses accordingly.
Jeff, you sound like a person I would love to meet!
We stood our ground during the Covid intimidation in Colorado and we stood alone. On our first trip to South Dakota, it was shocking to be back in freedom and that made me mad because this IS still America although some states have forgotten that. We tell people in Colorado that we moved back to America.
There is not a one-size fits all solution for every person but there is one thing you can never change....if you live in a socialist/communist state, your tax dollars support that agenda whether you like it or not. We all have to make our own decision about when/if it is time to stay and when it is time to leave. I never thought people could be as mean as what we saw during Covid in Colorado. Being back around normal people has been wonderful for our sanity. We are retired and don't want to spend the rest of our lives fighting a losing battle but if others want to stay and fight, that is their decision and it is the height of arrogance for them to tell me what I should have done.
No matter where you live, there is work to be done and we are being pro-active in S.D. Many people here take their freedom for granted and we are doing everything we can to educate them about how easily they could lose that freedom. Kristi Noem is a great governor but both of our Senators are part of the swamp that need to be sent packing. The battle will only end when our journey on this earth ends and we are safely in heaven with our Heavenly Father. We each need to pick a battle and fight it with gusto but we can't fight them all.
This reminds me of those cases you see on the news now and then where some giant corporation wants to build a hotel but some crusty, defiant, old guy refuses to sell despite being offered a fortune. So they build the giant twenty-story hotel around his property on three sides completely destroying his quality of life with sunshine blocked, lots of noise, and traffic. But he showed them who's boss (eye roll).
Like you said, we need to pick our battles. Many people quite naively think this is just another partisan spat but it is not. It is literally a fight between those who embrace totalitarianism (lock-downs, mandates, forced vaccination) and state-enforced hedonism (take your kids away if you object to trans ideology, forced denial of reality, militant homosexuality). These people are not kidding around, like the godless communists they are, they intend to impose this stuff on you whether you like it or not, at gunpoint if needed.
So people need to ask themselves, do I want to end up like the crusty old guy with a hotel on three sides if I lose? Or does it just make more sense to relocate to where people share my beliefs in God's plan for our lives? Keep in mind that you are making that decision for your kids too, not just you.
Edit: Adding that I'm not advocating that people just give up, but to take a hard look at reality when choosing your path. Discretion often is the better part of valor.
So using that “stand your ground” logic, Lot should have stayed in Sodom and Gomorrah and told the angels to be patient with his sodomy obsessed neighbors. 🤷🏼♀️
Your point is sympathetic, but in every battle one must know when to retreat in order to regroup and when and where to make your stand. Seeking higher ground, with more reinforcements, is as valid a strategy as “standing your ground”, and yet no sane General would have his army “stand their ground” behind enemy lines.
So, yes to prepare to fight, no to doing it from the wrong location, and always yes to employing a winning strategy. 🙏🏼
People in the heavily blue areas are willingly electing people that are intentionally destroying the very fabric of society, and enabling outright evil.
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Elections have NEVER been audited by the voters...I would be there is LARGE amounts of FRAUD.
For those that are in California, you might find this interesting. Fast forward to minute 42 of the interview. There is an independence movement in California to break away and create a separate state. From the sound of it, this movement has legs, legally and otherwise.
I myself am a CA transplant. My family and I moved to Panama City, FL in the mid-80's. At the time I had no idea Providence was protecting both me and my extended family by making this move (even though we had to suffer through a CAT5 Hurricane Michael). The number of people leaving CA has recently been described as the largest migration in US history. When the elections are rigged, people still have the freedom to vote with their feet...and they are.
American culture is fracturing and motivating people to move to communities where there are other like minded families. This is the first and most obvious result of the fracturing. This is resulting in a Free States vs Blue States dichotomy in the political landscape. Second is the independence movements developing in places like CA, Utah and Idaho to breakaway from the Bolsheviks that have taken over their states. If the Bolsheviks are not routed from the USG, the States will be our last line of defense against their tyranny and the states are already lining up for the battle. Nov 8 can't come soon enough. My hope is that a red wave will swamp all attempts by the woke Bolsheviks to subvert and steal the elections.
Running and relocating is actually a very viable answer. Stubbornness in and of it itself is not a virtue.
My first priority is protecting my family, period end of story. If I judge where I live to be unsafe for my family then I'm going to pack up and leave. If you were trying to raise kids in a gang-infested, drug-riddled neighborhood, would you say, "running and relocating isn't the answer" or would you get the hell out?
There's no valor in fighting hopelessly lost causes, sometimes you have to make a decision as to what's best for you and your family and move on. I'm not saying that Colorado is a lost cause, but making blanket statements that relocating is not an answer is absurd. It may not be for everyone, but it very well be the best choice for many.
People in the heavily blue areas are willingly electing people that are intentionally destroying the very fabric of society, and enabling outright evil. This is obvious, but the residents are voting for them anyways, they want this. Why would any sane person not relocate in this situation?
BTW, I'm in California (a very nice part of it fortunately) and was born and raised here. But once I retire we are getting the hell out as I have no intention of being governed by evil lunatics one day longer than needed.
I was born and raised in California and my husband and I planned to get out as soon as he retired. He died at the beginning of the covid (and I'm pretty sure it was from covid), and I escaped California as soon as possible. I only wish we had moved earlier.
I'm sorry for your loss. There is probably much unspoken grief in your statement. Those of us who have not been there can't really understand your loss. For that I am sorry.
Thank you for your kind words. My regret is that he would have liked where we ended up. I am consoled that since his death was early in the craziness, he didn't see what has become of our country...pretty sure the lockdowns would have killed him, if he had survived.
Yes but everyone can just move to Floriduh. DeSantis could be gone in an election cycle and a tyrant can flip it all in a single term (i.e. what Biden is doing nationally).
I get your point but we need strategies to push the fight everywhere. California has more republican voters than any other state, so it would be a great place to make a stand.
There may be a lot but unfortunately we are outnumbered nearly two to one. That my friend, is a lost cause, at least for the next twenty years. I have better things to do for the next two decades than bang my head against a wall.
Our family is blessed that we live in an isolated, coastal enclave where we are largely buffered from California's pathologies. However, it's getting worse every year as the state is becoming more and more intrusive in local affairs. We already had to pull our kids out of public schools (one of the top five districts academically in California) as it became clear the school staff were deviantly hell-bent on corrupting my kids. Could I have gone on the warpath and maybe turned the district around in five years? Perhaps. But during those five years I risk losing my kids to these perverts. That's a risk I'm not willing to take. We got them out and never looked back.
Way too many on our side have some romantic notion of fighting for "principles" and have no clue as to how far things are gone. We are not talking about pedestrian issues like tax rates, but our children's safety and embracing all out degeneracy. You have to look out for your family first as no one else will.
These sick people literally think you as a parent are the problem, and that they are entitled to sexualize your child and keep it secret from you. We have zero common cause with these people, they are insane and demonic. There is no way in hell I'll keep my kids in this environment out of foolish stubbornness or some misguided sense of principle. My family comes absolutely first. I'm not waiting around for when Newsom next declares that our family attending an uncompromising Bible-believing church is a hate crime, as that's where this is heading.
If people want to stay and fight this then that is up to them, some people are gluttons for punishment and really enjoy hopeless crusades. What these people fail to realize, is that these blue areas are overwhelming voting for this! So either the people agree with it, or they are so stupid they have no idea what is going on. Either way, I can see a clear losing cause and know when to cut my losses accordingly.
Jeff, you sound like a person I would love to meet!
We stood our ground during the Covid intimidation in Colorado and we stood alone. On our first trip to South Dakota, it was shocking to be back in freedom and that made me mad because this IS still America although some states have forgotten that. We tell people in Colorado that we moved back to America.
There is not a one-size fits all solution for every person but there is one thing you can never change....if you live in a socialist/communist state, your tax dollars support that agenda whether you like it or not. We all have to make our own decision about when/if it is time to stay and when it is time to leave. I never thought people could be as mean as what we saw during Covid in Colorado. Being back around normal people has been wonderful for our sanity. We are retired and don't want to spend the rest of our lives fighting a losing battle but if others want to stay and fight, that is their decision and it is the height of arrogance for them to tell me what I should have done.
No matter where you live, there is work to be done and we are being pro-active in S.D. Many people here take their freedom for granted and we are doing everything we can to educate them about how easily they could lose that freedom. Kristi Noem is a great governor but both of our Senators are part of the swamp that need to be sent packing. The battle will only end when our journey on this earth ends and we are safely in heaven with our Heavenly Father. We each need to pick a battle and fight it with gusto but we can't fight them all.
Thanks Carolyn, the feeling is mutual.
This reminds me of those cases you see on the news now and then where some giant corporation wants to build a hotel but some crusty, defiant, old guy refuses to sell despite being offered a fortune. So they build the giant twenty-story hotel around his property on three sides completely destroying his quality of life with sunshine blocked, lots of noise, and traffic. But he showed them who's boss (eye roll).
Like you said, we need to pick our battles. Many people quite naively think this is just another partisan spat but it is not. It is literally a fight between those who embrace totalitarianism (lock-downs, mandates, forced vaccination) and state-enforced hedonism (take your kids away if you object to trans ideology, forced denial of reality, militant homosexuality). These people are not kidding around, like the godless communists they are, they intend to impose this stuff on you whether you like it or not, at gunpoint if needed.
So people need to ask themselves, do I want to end up like the crusty old guy with a hotel on three sides if I lose? Or does it just make more sense to relocate to where people share my beliefs in God's plan for our lives? Keep in mind that you are making that decision for your kids too, not just you.
Edit: Adding that I'm not advocating that people just give up, but to take a hard look at reality when choosing your path. Discretion often is the better part of valor.
Agree, 100%.
Especially that our SD Senators and Representative are never to be trusted.
So using that “stand your ground” logic, Lot should have stayed in Sodom and Gomorrah and told the angels to be patient with his sodomy obsessed neighbors. 🤷🏼♀️
Your point is sympathetic, but in every battle one must know when to retreat in order to regroup and when and where to make your stand. Seeking higher ground, with more reinforcements, is as valid a strategy as “standing your ground”, and yet no sane General would have his army “stand their ground” behind enemy lines.
So, yes to prepare to fight, no to doing it from the wrong location, and always yes to employing a winning strategy. 🙏🏼
People in the heavily blue areas are willingly electing people that are intentionally destroying the very fabric of society, and enabling outright evil.
----
Elections have NEVER been audited by the voters...I would be there is LARGE amounts of FRAUD.
For those that are in California, you might find this interesting. Fast forward to minute 42 of the interview. There is an independence movement in California to break away and create a separate state. From the sound of it, this movement has legs, legally and otherwise.
https://www.brighteon.com/6baa5334-3736-4bfd-8789-84c20b6aabd2
I myself am a CA transplant. My family and I moved to Panama City, FL in the mid-80's. At the time I had no idea Providence was protecting both me and my extended family by making this move (even though we had to suffer through a CAT5 Hurricane Michael). The number of people leaving CA has recently been described as the largest migration in US history. When the elections are rigged, people still have the freedom to vote with their feet...and they are.
American culture is fracturing and motivating people to move to communities where there are other like minded families. This is the first and most obvious result of the fracturing. This is resulting in a Free States vs Blue States dichotomy in the political landscape. Second is the independence movements developing in places like CA, Utah and Idaho to breakaway from the Bolsheviks that have taken over their states. If the Bolsheviks are not routed from the USG, the States will be our last line of defense against their tyranny and the states are already lining up for the battle. Nov 8 can't come soon enough. My hope is that a red wave will swamp all attempts by the woke Bolsheviks to subvert and steal the elections.
Amen, Brother.