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Roger Beal's avatar

Look for a PCA church: It's perhaps the only American denomination holding the faith-over-fear line, and preaching the uncorrputed and oncompromised holy scriptures exactly as written.

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Copernicus's avatar

Ugh, I dunno.

Be careful. Tim Keller of Redeemer Pres in NYC is a closet wokester who thinks that we all OWE it to the poor to redistribute our wealth to them. I heard that his church segregated vax from unv during services.

Our former church was PCA and absolutely fell in lock step with local mandates for masks and distancing. Told folks we were unloving to question mask wearing. “People are afraid, and we can help them feel less afraid by wearing a mask, so we should be loving and be willing to be uncomfortable for their sake.” I am not making that up.

Included links to local vax sites in the weekly newsletters.

I would never have asked any of the pastors there for an exemption letter. Not even sure they would have written one.

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Jeff C's avatar

I guess "trust God and fear not" isn't in the Pastor's Bible? It's in my NKJ version dozens of times.

I can understand fear and uncertainty in the first month, after that it was obvious that the threat was way overblown. The Bible condemns fear in no uncertain terms because it means we are looking to the world rather than to God. Pastors that enabled this fear will have to answer for this one day, I hope they are prepared. In addition to being sinful, this fear coddling has led to an explosion in mental illness and human suffering. It's pretty ugly.

One of the nice things about being a Baptist (theologically speaking) are the doctrines of the "priesthood of believers" and "soul competency". I wrote my own exemption letter (which was accepted), we answer to God not other men.

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Copernicus's avatar

Yeah, my husband wrote that he didn’t need a letter because he answers for himself before God. 👍

A lot of Christians forgot the “do not fear.” Or somehow led themselves to believe that despite this command, it would be foolish to disregard what we were being told to do for our and for OTHERS’ good. You know, the whole, “love others more than yourself.” Or, uh, actually it is “as yourself,” but that trivial difference wasn’t supposed to matter.

I was astounded how LITTLE discussion there was amongst Bible believing Christians about these things. No wrestling with stuff. No long conversations about, what, really, does God mean when he says to not forsake gathering together. Or, when he says to lay down your life for your friends. How does that apply? I mean, does it REALLY mean that I put masks on my kids and myself - when I know the harms - just to perhaps make Sue feel better? How do we sort through these when people in powerful positions are ignoring evidence that their views are flat wrong? Am I *really* supposed to take an experimental thing, just to keep Grandma safe? How do we know Grandma will be safer anyway? Can we trust what we are being told? Aren’t there a lot of political incentives and conflicts of interest here?

I mean, I am not a brilliant person, but it was obvious that a fast 💉 carried enormous conflicting interests. Re-election hopes. Financial incentives. Popularity of public health. I mean, it was obvious. And yet so many people didn’t see.

But then, I have been blind for many years prior. Thank God for his grace awakening me in the years leading up to this current debacle,

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Jeff C's avatar

Could have written your last sentence myself, one of the main reasons "Amazing Grace" is probably my favorite song. Written 250 years ago and we still sing it in church at least one a month. Such timeless truth.

God bless you and your husband.

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Janet's avatar

What is that. PCA?

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Roger Beal's avatar

PCA = Presbyterian Church in America. Please do NOT confuse this denomination with the PC(USA), a sizeable renegade bunch who divorced mainline Presbyterians 30+/- years ago, so as to embrace the globohomo agenda.

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Janet's avatar

Thank you.

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

Actually, those renegades exited in 1973....that's when the PCA was born.😇

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Janet's avatar

No PCA church anywhere near me. 2 hrs away. Or more.

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Credenda's avatar

Then look for OPC or ARP. They have stayed faithful.

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LuAnne's avatar

Do you have a Lutheran church nearby (a Missouri Synod Lutheran church....not WI synod)?

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Curtis's avatar

Presbyterian

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Janet's avatar

Is there a difference in the denomination like United Methodist has different sub groups? Like Free Methodist. Baptists southern etc. PCA in our town. Did the same as Methodist during the plague.

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Bones's avatar

All denominations are part of the same currency. I like the nondenominational churches

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Janet's avatar

I’m looking. But if they caved—nope. There are some Bible churches around. Dont know what Assemblies of God did. Blue state.

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