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M VARR's avatar

You left the Church for good?

Don't give the devil a win. He wants to separate you from God and his Son.

Nothing on this earth is perfect.

The enemy of the good is the perfect.

The covid madness has subsided in the pews.

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WendeAnne's avatar

You don’t need a church to stay close to God!

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Jon Stephenson's avatar

Sheep separated from the flock are ripe for being picked off. You just have to find a good flock with a good shepard (besides the Good Shepard).

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Janet's avatar

I have many friends. Christians. Non Christians. We help each other and others. I still attend a women’s Bible study from the church. God will lead me where he wants me. Since I was receiving little from the worship there having realized the truth of what was happening I asked God to make me fit and strong with a peace to not succumb to fear. A congregation will follow

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M VARR's avatar

In Acts 2:42 we read that one of the four things the early church devoted itself to was “fellowship.” Fellowship was a very important part of their reason for meeting together. It was one of their objectives. But what is fellowship?

We often hear people talking about fellowship. We hear it said that what we need is more fellowship. But our modern ideas of fellowship have become so watered down that the word no longer carries the same meaning it did in New Testament times.

We are not surprised that the early church devoted itself to “the apostles’ teaching” and also “to prayer.” Apart from the ministry of the Holy Spirit, these are the two most important means of growth, power, and effectiveness in the Christian life and this is everywhere evident in the rest of Scripture.

But Luke tells us these early Christians also devoted themselves to fellowship. They just didn’t have fellowship; they devoted themselves to it. This means that fellowship was a priority and one of the objectives for gathering together.

They made fellowship a priority. Fellowship takes place in a Church or if need be, in the catacombs.

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Kim's avatar

Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful; and let us consider how to stimulate one another to love and good deeds, NOT FORSAKNG OUR OWN ASSEMBLING TOGETHER, as is the habit of some, Heb. 10:23-25. The God who created us knows how much we need fellowship! Any way other than together is Not the same!

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Freebird's avatar

Thank you Kim! I was just going to look up that verse which tells us to

‘Not forsake the the fellowship of believers’.

You’re so right! Our church (local leadership) was pretty weak, but we stuck it out through the sad, inadequate online services. We all realized how bad it was to not be together in person!

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N Springer's avatar

Where does it say “in a Church”? You don’t need a fancy building to be a church. I go to a small home church and it’s so much better than the large church I used to attend, or the base chapel I was involved in overseas. We meet twice a week and fellowship and listen to a sermon and study the Bible. And we have no 501c3 status to be beholden to the tax man. You can’t tell me I’m not “in church” just because there is no church building involved. Just real people who love Jesus.

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Kim's avatar

I did not mean a church building. The church is the people, and they need to meet together whether it is in the forests (communist countries) or catacombs in Rome. The location is irrelevant! My church building is a former restaurant.

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M VARR's avatar

I am replying to the person who stated she stopped going to church.

Its great that you have a Christian fellowship !

I want her to consider the importance of that fellowship.

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Janet's avatar

I have many friends. Christians. Non Christians. We help each other and others. I still attend a women’s Bible study from the church. God will lead me where he wants me. Since I was receiving little from the worship there having realized the truth of what was happening I asked God to make me fit and strong with a peace to not succumb to fear. A congregation will follow. I was also being shamed and guilted by a couple of people there

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Credenda's avatar

Oh but we do! Satan is like prowling lion waiting to devour us. We need each other. It is not called the Body of Christ for nothing! If there is no available church to attend then God will give us grace to persevere but if we neglect meeting together we will eventually wither and die.

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Janet's avatar

Exactly.

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Janet's avatar

I’m a much stronger Christian now than when I attended. I got strength and peace from the peace giver and creator himself. I love the people there but they are in a not so nice box. Deceived. This perhaps is the Laodicean era of the church. The lukewarm church. The last of the 7 churches in Revelation. Harsh words for it from God. I refuse to be in it.

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WendeAnne's avatar

I completely agree and took some abuse since my comment yesterday. My relationship with God is my business, plain and simple. I have never felt closer to God as a fallen away Catholic than I have these past few years. God knows my heart. Thank you Janet! God Bless. 🙏

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Janet's avatar

God is good—ALL the time. ❤️This the the day the Lord has created—let us rejoice in it! God bless you, WendeAnne.

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Lucy's avatar

Churches are the farthest thing from God. You don't need a church to be spiritually connected. All churches care about is their 501C status and money from the government. Discernment is needed here.

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Jeff C's avatar

Not sure if you mean it or if it's what you tell yourself as an excuse not to go to church. Either way it's not true as there are very good churches out there. You paint all churches with a broad brush (only care about 501C status) which you can't possibly know unless you've visited every church. Don't let the existence of some bad churches poison your opinion of all of them.

(Not to mention that if you are a Bible-believing Christian you really don't have a choice as God commands us to fellowship in numerous passages. It's not optional.)

I used to tell myself the same thing but it turned out I was just too lazy to get my butt up on Sunday morning and used institutional flaws as a good excuse to sleep in. Churches are filled with flawed people (aka sinners), there's an old saying that if you find a church without hypocrisy, don't join it as you'll ruin it. The beauty is that the closer we come to Him, the less we sin as He transforms our lives (sanctification). A good church helps immensely in that journey.

Once you find a good spirit-filled, Bible-teaching church it will be the highlight of your week (and more often too as midweek services are great).

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

I can't like this comment, but rest assured I tried.

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M VARR's avatar

During services, 501C tax status was never mentioned at my Church.

Passages from the Holy Bible are read and discussed.

You might need to find a new church if this is the case.

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Janet's avatar

That’s great. We got seminary school sermon note rehashes and pablum. My women’s Bible group is much better. We read out loud the whole Bible verse and discuss. The sermon is dead boring. The actual word of God sings and touches us with everything we need as Children of God. Blessings.

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M VARR's avatar

Suppose you were ordered to relocate to a new country for the rest of your life and

and you were given a choice of two countries.

The only information about the countries would be...

Country A permitted Churches

and

Country B prohibited Churches

Which country would you choose?

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