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Elaine H's avatar

Msm is always ‘in’ on it. Maybe many R’s stayed home thinking there were enough going to the polls and their vote was not needed.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I know a lot of R’s who stayed home because they know the cheat happens and their votes don’t matter. It’s unfortunate that a very large amount of R’s feel this way and rather than step up, they sit home. No matter how hard we come out to vote, they always cheat and get away with it. At some point do we stop legitimizing these fake “elections”. Idk.

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John Cougar Misanthrope's avatar

The perception by some republicans that their votes do not count and thus they do not participate is a major failure of the republican party. I'm cynical but I always vote. There's no honor in capitulation to tyranny.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Well, to be fair….the Rep party as we know it is a fraud and failure full of fake Rs who pretend to be one thing and then are another. How can we expect them to not fail at everything they do. 😒

We don’t have an actual party. We have a fragmented group of people who don’t know their ass from a hole in the ground, and yet continue to steal our money and lie to us about everything, and have no spine to stand up for their constituents, while putting a smile on their faces and regurgitate the words, try again next time. What we actually have is RHINOdemocRATS helping democrats stay in power. R’s disappeared a long time ago.

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Mark Charpentier's avatar

I'm exactly the same - can't not do our civic duty or it all falls apart. I felt good being in line with other patriots .... we'll see what happens.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Oh I agree. They are rolling over and letting this happen. It’s infuriating.

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Lindsay.'s avatar

That is a huge concern of mine: conservatives not voting because the elections are stolen. Even if the elections are stolen, we need as many votes as possible- let's not give it away easily to the Marxist dems. And if some elections are honest I'd hate to conservatives to lose just because dems take voting more seriously.

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SadieJay's avatar

California is a prime example of what they want to do with the entire nation. The R's (and there are a lot) have been annihilated in a few decades of this and now the only place to find an R in public office is in a closet or under a rock. They stole their way into power a long time ago and the people keep paying the price.

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John Cougar Misanthrope's avatar

It's not difficult to understand what happened. I believe it's an amalgam of factors: voting irregularities, mail-in ballots, Dobbs and the abortion issue, the disaster that is the republican party (Michigan, for example) and its incompetent failure to seize the moment, the Trump/McConnell factor, the influence of MSM and Big Tech (thinking of Dr. Robert Epstein's "Google's Triple Threat" theory in particular), external interference.

In summary, the republicans have failed to understand the election landscape going back to 2010. It's becoming more clear that Trump was an aberration in 2016. They don't understand the machinery and they didn't understand that taking an absolutist position on abortion (I'm completely pro-life) will not win elections. They need to speak with one voice as the democrats have done since Barack Obama became their thought leader in 2008.

If cheating is the only way to win an election in this increasingly corrupt society then the republicans need to get better at it. They can outlaw it if and when they ever return to power. The Road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

The republicans need to get better at understanding the machinery that gets candidates elected and gaming the system better than the democrats. Lee Atwater, young Karl Rove, and Steve Bannon understood this. That includes mail-in voting, ballot harvesting, the roles of the media, academia, the entertainment industry, and Big Tech.

There's no honor in elections nor among thieves. Just read "The Prince' by Machiavelli. It's only about power and it has always been this way

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Julie Ann B's avatar

I understand your sentiments but completely disagree with your solution. To cheat because the other side cheats?? That is wrong and to join them in dishonesty and deceit isn’t an option for me. We’re better than that! Instead get involved at the local level, in the schools and county meetings. Volunteer to be an election judge, a poll watcher or a poll worker. Band together with other citizens to get election officials and your state representatives to remove the opportunities to cheat (mail-in voting, ballot harvesting and the machines. Voting should be on paper ballots, watermarked and verified by voter ID and hand counted) Finally expose and severely punish anyone involved in cheating in an election.

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Swedecelt's avatar

It won't let me heart this, so I am stating that I heart this!

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Major Lighthead's avatar

I live in downtown Chicago. I have served as an election judge here.

My R votes truly are not counted. So I refuse to vote and legitimize the fraud.

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