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Eric's avatar

Caught the Epoch Times interview. Extraordinarily awesome! In the words of our great vice president Camelface Harris: “Seriously, I had no idea that you were seriously shaking things up to the magnitude of seriousness that you purport to impart to these serious causes. Am I right?”

A couple of things: First, the interviewer, Jan Jekielek, seems to be the only person (Tucker?) on the face of the planet to allow the interviewee, i.e., YOU in this case, to actually answer questions at some length and with great specificity without interjecting some personal ideology or go off on a tangent that has nothing to do with the original question. I’ve been so conditioned to Mainstream Media type discussions ("When are you going to stop beating your wife?") that this really threw me for a loop. SERIOUSLY. (Calm down Camelface!) Every time you would pause to take a breath I was fully expecting Jan to inject something that would throw things off course, but, surprisingly (at least for me) he would accommodate - even encourage - your completeness of thought. No yelling, screaming, insinuating, finger pointing, blaming, denouncing, admonishing, talking down to, personal beliefs, etc….Yes, all in all, a tad bit refreshing….like a serious breath of fresh air on a cool Fall moonlit August afternoon. (Camelface!!…Sister….take a break!)

Secondly, we all know that it wasn’t easy to make time for this interview given your current project installing a hot tub in the back of your Ford F150. Y'know, for a four wheelin, truck jumpin, mud divin, gator wrastlin swamp yahoo from Podunk F…L…A, you clean up real nice. You've inspired me to start brushing my teeth…..at least the ones I want to keep.

You're awesome. Glad you're on our side!

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KatLee's avatar

Non-interrupting, talking over, etc. was very refreshing. I haven’t seen a calm, logical discussion in …. forever. As soon as someone starts interrupting or talking over the other, I turn it off. I am so glad to have found Jeff through substack comments. This is what true leadership looks like.

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Birdingmom's avatar

Was the first ATL interview you've watched? Jan Jekielek is THE BEST interviewer which after years of watching him means I cannot tolerate anyone else!

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Eric's avatar

1st one for me. Not sure if I can handle this kind of professionalism, respectfulness, fairness and calm demeanor.

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

Yes, Jan is among the best ever. A must-watch is his conversation with Governor DeSantis.

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GoodGrief-239's avatar

Ah, it needs a subscription. Looks like it’s a dollar and then after 2 months it’s $9.99/mo autocharge.

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M2's avatar

I did the dollar subscription but if you cancel it afterwards, they will offer a year at $1/mo. I'm ok with that to support publications like this.

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

Yes, I thought it might. For some reason, I got to watch the whole thing when it first came out. Maybe Epoch Times did that as a teaser to get people to ultimately subscribe? As is typical of them, this was superbly done and Jan -- once again -- shows himself as the true professional that he is. Oh, and DeSantis comes out looking pretty good, too! ;)

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

yes and this month I will probably take it. 2 subscribtions I have will end, and together they will pay for the new one. I have been looking at Epoch times and seems they do a good job

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Patricia Woodard's avatar

It's worth it!!

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Martha's avatar

Sorry, I forgot my usual paywall warning...

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

Here's a link to the trailer for the full interview: https://www.theepochtimes.com/exclusive-documentary-desantis-florida-vs-lockdowns_3834081.html I think you might need a subscription (?) to watch the whole thing?

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Patricia Woodard's avatar

Watching it today!! Thanks!

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Jen's avatar

Dig back for his interview with James Lindsay.

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Patricia Woodard's avatar

Agree! These Epoch Times American Thought Leaders interviews are the best!

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Jeff C's avatar

Jan Jekielek is a serious interviewer who has guests on to hear what they have to say. He's the Anti-Hannity.

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Naomi's avatar

Hannity must be the worst "interviewer" of all time. He's a bit better on the radio but his TV show is awful. It's all about Hannity all the time.

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David Cashion's avatar

I stopped watching Jerry Hannity long ago. He invites multiple guest to all speak at once and of course everyone gets louder and louder. Hannity has also proved himself a shill for

big ( anything ).

Last but not least he's a war monger.

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Naomi's avatar

Wars are good for ratings.

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GenEarly's avatar

You mean other than the controlled propaganda? Where is the Hannity coverage of the Death VaXXX? Did I miss that? Quite possible, I don't watch Fox, only get Tucker on rebroadcasts.

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Truthseeker's avatar

No… Hannity isn’t speaking out against the vax like TCarlson and Laura Ingraham are.

And my personal hunch is it’s because Hannity took the vax himself…. Same as trump

So one possible reason for that may be- 1. it’s hard to look your own fate in the eye!

Or 2. he may just not be speaking out about the vax because of his die hard allegiance to trump

And therefore isn’t covering the detrimental effects…

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Amuzed_Traveler's avatar

Why are you still watching Hannity? I never could stand him.

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Naomi's avatar

I rarely do. I watch Tucker every night or thereabouts. I have FoxNation so if I miss a nightly show I can watch it the next day there. At the end of Tucker's show I get the first few seconds of Hannity and can see who is scheduled. I taped it to catch Ted Cruz's interview the other day. That's about i.

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Naomi's avatar

Jan does a good job. I have watched many of these interviews. Every one of them is informative and worthwhile. You should watch his interview with Dr. Yeadon. Wow!

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Iron Horsey's avatar

Jan asks good questions and he lets an interview develop.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Best interview I’ve seen in a very long time. After Jeff won the case against the city of Gainesville I was appalled that the media was crickets! I contacted Stew Peters from Telegram and told him about Jeff and they booked the “interview” and I was excited to hear from Jeff.

The “interview” was mostly Stew talking. The clip was sandwiched and sort of buried in the segment. Disappointing to say the least. Here this attorney was moving the needle in a huge way and even the conservative proclaiming to get the truth out did a huge disservice to Jeff and the public that needed to know this important information. People needed to know they could win in court!!!

So THIS interview was FANTASTIC and real! Sharing it everywhere I can.

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GoodGrief-239's avatar

Yes, it was really good. It took me a little bit to settle into the cadence of it, now recognizing why, but I grew accustomed to and enjoyed it. Thank you, Jeff!! Great work.

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Ellen Komorowski's avatar

So funny Eric!

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Maureen ODH's avatar

Eric...! You add such a shot of grin to Jeff’s humor laden essential daily “real news” updates... excellent observation on Jekielek’s encouragement and accommodations during this admirable interview, so NOT bought mockingbird bs, at least not since “Point - Counterpoint” way back programs...

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CMCM's avatar

Jan Jekielek is my favorite interviewer for exactly the reason you stated!

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Mary G's avatar

I noticed that also! Jeff got to finish his thoughts!!! 🎉 Great interview Jeff! I for one am very glad that the Spirit spoke to you on that summer day in 2020.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Great post Eric, I haven’t had the chance to watch the interview yet, as when I tried to watch over the weekend, Substack was in maintenance mode so I couldn’t get the link to work. Really looking forward to it, especially after reading your post.

Oh and between you and Jeff, I’m surprised I don’t have coffee all over me and adjacent surfaces with all of the spontaneous guffawing I was doing while reading his post and your comment! 😁

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RebeccaGrrrl's avatar

Keep watching that show by Jan. I’ve been watching him for several years now exactly due to your description of his style. He is a major interviewer that doesn’t get his due. I think I’ve watched at least 30 of his shows and only disliked one interview. I don’t like anyone else on Epoch TV in comparison.

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Winter Girl's avatar

Ha!! That was a hilarious and yet also very poignant take on the interview!

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JCrutcher's avatar

Amen Brother!

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

Sorry; I'm confused. Did Jan interview Cameltoe, or was that just humor?

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Diana (Somewhere in Maryland)'s avatar

The PayPal incident spread like wildfire over the weekend; everyone deemed it "bad" because the left realized they could get entangled as well. But was it any different than Trudeau freezing the bank accounts of truckers back in January who protested the vaccine? Or GoFundMe refusing to release the donations to them? No. Expect more of this to happen. It's making me think we need to just go back to putting our money under our mattresses - and I"m only half kidding.

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Naomi's avatar

So, I went to PayPal and tried to cancel my account. I couldn't because I have used it to pay for several subscriptions. I would have to go to each subscription and change the payment plan there. I managed to get one of them changed so far. I will do my best to get all of them changed, but in the meantime I'm done with PayPal. It was convenient but I can stand a bit of inconvenience to do my tiny part not to support totalitarianism. They seriously thought they would punish their customers' "misinformation?" Really?

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Diana (Somewhere in Maryland)'s avatar

Hang in there. Of course they will make it difficult to cancel. I hardly used them and then stopped using completely when they made that insanely high donation to BLM. And we know how all that went :)

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Laura Kasner's avatar

I deleted my PayPal account a few weeks ago.

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Naomi's avatar

How? I went to PayPal and tried. I was unable to.

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Laura Kasner's avatar

I had no issue cancelling it. I don’t have PayPal tied to any recurring charges though.

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Naomi's avatar

Unfortunately I do.

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Laura Kasner's avatar

Very unfortunate 😩

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Eric's avatar

Keep it. Don't use it. It'll drive 'em nuts.

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

That's true. They have a cost in maintaining a user's account even when the user doesn't...use it. :)

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FedUpDeb's avatar

But delete your credit card information

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Kimberly's avatar

Worst case you can always cancel the credit card that is on their file.

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Naomi's avatar

No. I like the credit card. I won't use PayPal.

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WIMomof3's avatar

They don’t make it easy! Go to help and search “close account”

You have to cancel it in settings unless you have app it may be different but do it! 👋

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Naomi's avatar

Thank you. That's what I did. Then a list of all the accounts/subscriptions I have that are linked to PayPal popped up. It said I had to change the billing on each of them first. I managed to get one of them changed, but I was defeated at the next one. That subscription doesn't expire until 2027. I just won't use it so they won't be getting any revenue from me.

Sometimes that's the way you fight back. Another company I will never use again is GoFundMe. I donated to the Canadian truckers and GoFundMe refused to dispense the funds. I demanded a refund and got it. That's the last I'll ever use them. (Corrections made with apologies for my earlier error).

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JW's avatar

Went through the same rigamro and gave up. I will try again after 5 cups of coffee.

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Naomi's avatar

Glad I'm not the only one. LOL. PayPal has been a way to support people doing good work such as Christopher Rufo. It's easy to donate to him using it. The other ways he lists are cumbersome.

I'm reasonably intelligent so I guess I'll figure it out.

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FedUpDeb's avatar

I spent a chunk of my morning untangling myself from PayPal too. When the customer service rep asked why, I told her I was shocked by the arrogance PayPal demonstrated and that their quick walk back of their “mistake” was much too little, too late. How could anyone ever trust them? Thankfully I had only given them the minimum information. I couldn’t believe that there was a spot to give them your passport number! Huh? Why? But the first thing I did was delete the cards attached to my account. My husband closed his too. I’m happy to see PayPal has had a bad day at the Market. I agree that it was convenient but certainly not essential. RIP, PayPal. Nahhhh, I take back the peace. Die, pond scum.

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JW's avatar

It also took me a good portion of yesterday and today to delete my account that i have had since 2004. It was a big pain but worth the headache. Power in numbers.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

I deleted my account a few years ago when they went woke. They were so happy to support BLM and other nonsense.

It took effort but it was extremely worth it.

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M2's avatar

Same. Used to use them all the time. No more. Service and integrity counts!

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Kim's avatar

Have a feeling that if they hadn’t backed down this would have been challenged in court.

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Tory's avatar

Had the same experience. They are corrupt

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Iron Horsey's avatar

So many are acting similar with PayPal they announced an "error" in their new policy. People continue to do so and I applaud it and your efforts!

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Naomi's avatar

My efforts! You are much too kind. I am one drop in the ocean.

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Iron Horsey's avatar

As Ronald Maximus Reagan used to say, "they vote with their feet." Paypal says "ouch."

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Naomi's avatar

Don't you just love it? Took them, what, a day? One of the few adults left at PayPal must have gone to the bathroom and left the juveniles in charge. Came back, saw what had been done, and a few expletives later corrected the policy. Damage is done however.

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M2's avatar

Yeah, I wonder how many of the thousands that canceled their accounts came running back.....hopefully, not many.

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Kelly's avatar

I cancelled mine. It was fast. Before I cancelled, I deleted my back acct info. I doubt that will do me much good, but we will see.

Thank you for the idea, and also to whomever stated that cancellation was hidden in the settings!

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Naomi's avatar

I tried to cancel again this morning. I can't so I changed the card linked to the PayPal account. It won't work so when the subscriptions try to renew they won't be able to renew automatically and will contact me by email At that time I can change the payment method. More than one way to defeat PayPal.

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Kelly's avatar

Great way of thinking outside the box!

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Naomi's avatar

I read something this morning that says PayPal is preventing people from canceling their accounts. Well, imagine that. Dr. Steve Turley suggested yesterday PayPal may go bankrupt over what they have done. They make most of their money on interest float. They hold people's money, don't pay interest on it, but collect interest from it. It's why they are now holding people's funds for 12 hours after they cancel their accounts.

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Kelly's avatar

Interesting! I hope it is true. We need to speak up en mass to get the point across to these woke companies

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Roger Beal's avatar

While you're looking under your mattress, drag out those cases of old-school paper ballots. We will need them this November.

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Linda Sartain's avatar

Yes on paper ballots. Get an Absentee ballot, Just in Case. Cancel it if you want to vote in person [write cancel on Ballot and envelope, put 2 scissor cuts on ballot] and turn it in if you go to the polls. You will have to turn it in to vote.

At least you'll have a Ballot. Request quickly, the window is closing.

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CMCM's avatar

I don't know if every Californian gets a mailed ballot these days, but in my county we have gotten them for a number of years. I just received mine a couple of days ago. You have the option of mailing them back (no thanks) or dropping them off at a number of local drop boxes (no thanks), but I always return mine to the country elections office box which is in their lobby and available during working hours. I believe they also have an option of voting in person at that location as well. Of course, who knows what might happen after that.

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Linda Sartain's avatar

In FL, we don't have mail in ballots where everyone gets a ballot. They call it Vote by Mail, but its really Absentee Voting. You have to Request a Ballot. Your request is good for 18 months, I think, if you so choose.

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CMCM's avatar

A few years ago....at least 6 or 7 it seems to me....California claimed out county was part of an "experiment" in mailed ballots. Then it became permanent, apparently.

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Citizen Satirist (CS)'s avatar

Sorry, I don't understand - who keeps $2,500 in a Paypal account that is not running an ecommerce business? And IF you don't keep that sort of money in a Paypal account, was their plan to steal it out of your connected account or connected credit card? IF the latter, HOW COULD THAT BE LEGAL??? e.g. you have to pre-authorize such transactions etc....

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Naomi's avatar

A lot of small businesses that conduct their business online use PayPal. My PayPal is connected to one of my charge cards so a purchase paid for with PayPal shows up on my charge card. I thought this was safer but PayPal has proven me wrong.

If PayPal ever went to the charge card connected to it and put in a $2500 charge there would be hell to pay.

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Gigi Gummerson's avatar

I’m so grateful that eBay got rid of them several years ago. I only kept mine open because some family doesn’t do Zelle. It’s going to be deleted for sure! Just not what it used to be 😭

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Citizen Satirist (CS)'s avatar

Yea - I know all the online sellers would have that sort of $ in there... But were they actually planning to charge your connected credit card or bank account for those who don't keep $ in their paypal accounts??? I would think people raising hell with their CCs and banks would be a problem albeit I could also see them taking Paypal's side IF they are really in bed with the latter...

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Naomi's avatar

I'm done with PayPal and there must be many like me out there.

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Peter Schott's avatar

Better question - what _thinking_ person keeps a balance in Paypal when they have a history of freezing accounts with no warning for whatever reason(s)? I've seen several horrible stories of businesses collecting money in PayPal to fund a project, but PayPal has a policy of not allowing money for "pre-release" projects.

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CaliforniaLost's avatar

I would guess most people have linked their bank account to their PP account. That would be almost impossible to get the money back.

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Naomi's avatar

It would create a lawsuit storm. I can see it now. How delicious. Some adult at PayPal must have choked when they read the new policy. Are there any adults left at PayPal?

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SeeingTruth's avatar

PayPal is also doing *stuff* in the UK

https://betanews.com/2022/09/22/paypal-cancels-customers-it-doesnt-like/

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Naomi's avatar

Rumble is working on an alternative payment system that can challenge PayPal, Apple and other credit platforms and payment systems. I can't wait.

So, which brainchild thought it is a good business plan to thoroughly p*ss off their customer base and shrink it drastically by creating a pervasive and seething level of distrust? This new business model is in operation on Facebook Twitter, YouTube, etc. Amazing. But heck what do I know? I only had a few business and economic courses way back in college. It wasn't even a prestigious college either; it was a junior college where I got my A. A. degree. Gosh, it wasn't Harvard, Yale, etc. Obviously my observations and opinions stem from a defective education.

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Susan Catherine's avatar

Candace Owens suggested https://glorifi.com/ I had never heard of it until the suggestion, but it looks promising. Their tagline "Put your money where your values are". I like that.

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Naomi's avatar

I'm going to wait for Rumble. Dan Bongino is a part owner and I have faith in him, his character and his integrity. Dave Rubin is also a part owner and I like him so much. I have had his locals subscription now for close on 2 years. He's a gem.

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Sheryl T2's avatar

There is also GabPay (from the people who gave us the social media site Gab). I have used it once and it seemed fine.

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Diana (Somewhere in Maryland)'s avatar

Like Jeremy's razors!

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Roger Beal's avatar

For P2P payments with zero fees, have a look at the ZELLE app.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

Zelle is through Chase. Another globalist entity.

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Roger Beal's avatar

They ALL are. The challenge is to identify, then deal with those who are least compromised. There is no ideal solution in this era, only the least of the evils, IMO.

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Barbara C. Nixon's avatar

Zelle only safe for people you know and trust. And at least one person has to belong to an approved/participating bank.

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CMCM's avatar

I use Zelle all the time to transfer money to my kids when necessary. Once I got a customer payment that way and it was seamless, instant and easy. Also no credit card fees!

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Kim's avatar

First I've heard of this financial company. Looks promising. Thanks

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

Thank you very much for the reference and link. First I've heard of this. Looks very interesting!

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DogsLife's avatar

Be careful before joining any service. Now there is ESG Compliance and they are all trying to get an "atta-boy" from the PTB. Move money to local banks (definitely away from the big ones!) and consider small credit unions - but check their website pages for the ESG virtue signals. You'll be shocked at what is hiding in plain sight.

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SYFY's avatar

Gab already has an alternate payment system in place for their 'parallel economy'

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Sheryl T2's avatar

Yes! I mentioned that before seeing your comment.

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CMCM's avatar

I have to think these uber-woke idiots believe there are exponentially more wokesters like themselves out there than there actually are. They always seem shocked and unprepared for the blowback they get.

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Naomi's avatar

I don't think there are many of them but they are strategically place. They control large businesses, major professional organizations, universities, Big Tech. They are able to exert influence and control far beyond their physical numbers.

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Help Needed in KS's avatar

Praise to the Associate's Degree! Got mine in '91, in Data Processing.

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CMCM's avatar

We have a big community/junior college system in California that allows a person to do the first two years of college very cheaply, and then you could either get an AA or move up to a larger university for the final two years and for your major. Saves a ton of money that way! My son did that, and after his community college two years he went to UC Davis for his science course major. He said the teachers and education he got at the community college were far superior to what he got at the UC, where highly paid and much vaunted professors didn't even bother to teach their own classes, relying instead on teaching assistants. It was a major ripoff of epic proportions. Important math classes (as well as other courses) were held in big theaters with as many as 700 students in one case. In community/junior college there were a maximum of about 30 students in a classroom. This makes a huge difference because there can be interaction with the teacher and other students.

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Help Needed in KS's avatar

Yeah, I've heard of university classes with +000's of students. That's not learning or teaching; that's just a money grab by the institution.

I remember our Business Math teacher talking to a student one day. The student was having difficulty in grasping something (I don't remember what) and the teacher said "If you're having problems with this problem; this is probably the problem....".

I thought it was funny.....

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Naomi's avatar

Community college instructors don't have to publish. It's easy to get with them if you are having difficulty with a concept. They truly are there for the student, or they were when I was in classes.

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Naomi's avatar

Same in Florida. My son got his AA and then went to UCF. He had a great experience in junior (community) college with the average class size about 25. I got my AA from the local community college, then went back and got an RN at the same school (a 2 year degree). Finally got my BSN from UNF. My son transferred to UCF and went to university classes on campus. I don't think he had any of those auditorium size classes because he came in as a junior. I got my BS online. My daughter went to FL State. She was in the honors program so she didn't have any of those auditorium classes.

All those community colleges in Florida are now state colleges and offer 4 year degrees. Each one offers specific four year degrees in specialized areas. All credits are transferable to Florida universities. FCCJ (Florida Community College of Jacksonville) now FSCJ (Florida State College at Jacksonville) offers over 63 2 year certificate programs. Many of these are highly paid careers and all are valuable to the community.

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Naomi's avatar

I agree. Many of the instructors have real life experience. Certainly all those teaching the business courses did. Makes a difference. I went on to get my BSN eventually.

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Annie's avatar

PayPal went full woke and now will go full broke. FYI - venmo is part of the PayPal family. Time to look elsewhere too.

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Naomi's avatar

They've cut their own throats. Gratuitous suicide. I'll wait for Rumble.

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RebeccaGrrrl's avatar

Good points and finishes some thoughts I’ve been having about money and bank accounts. What do you do, buy gold and bury it in your yard? Cash is a problem eventually with inflation. I’ve considered buying silver...

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Kelly's avatar

We have some precious metals. They are hard to cash in. We have to go to one of those sleezy-looking "we buy gold!" places. I went to one, just to check them out.

They were very pushy and wanted me to bring it in right away. That wasnt an option for a few reasons. They didnt care - they still wanted me to bring it in.

So, I dont know the answer to that. If you figure it out, let me know. :)

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RebeccaGrrrl's avatar

I wish I knew too, Kelly. My older sister was left silver from her husband when he died. She has used it carefully over the years. She does go to a precious metals place like you mentioned, but I went with her once and it was not one of the sleazy places. They were like a bank / safe, with strong security and very clean and respectable feeling. I don't know how many are like my experience vs yours? Did you look around? And now I'm wondering about banks... do they not deal with precious metals anymore? Not that I trust them either.......... With what's happening in the world, I can't help but want protection for my retirement fund, so it's there when I need it. I got out of the stock market for obv reasons, am avoiding bonds too for obv reasons.

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Kelly's avatar

Oooo...there is no way in hell i would ship gold or silver. I am sure they regularly "dont get delivered" nor returned.

Lol....I no longer trust banks. I trust the USPS even less. Thanks for the suggestion, tho! <3

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RebeccaGrrrl's avatar

I checked it out quite a bit today. I totally know what you mean. It "appears" quite secure. I'm not finished my research but I'm glad to have the chat with you! Thanks

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Harold Saive's avatar

Currently, Silver is in demand as a necessary metal in solar panels. As the cost of electricity climbs, demand for solar panels will increase. However technology of the future (past 2024) may replace the need for so much silver in each panel - https://resourceworld.com/how-much-silver-is-needed-for-the-solar-panel-industry/

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RebeccaGrrrl's avatar

Thanks Harold... You were posting so much about c19 along this post, I'm fearful of you being a troll... but this's a legit comment and appreciated. I hope you're not a troll!! lol

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Harold Saive's avatar

Jeff's substack deals with C-19 issues so posting on a few unrelated topics only means I'm a proud, contributing member supporting Jeff's efforts.. Thanks for the warm comment.

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Cintia Cuperman's avatar

Already doing it

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Kelly's avatar

I am getting ready to start saving for a down payment on a house. I am not putting the money into a bank. I am keeping ALL my pay stubs, bank receipts and statements, and getting money in large bills to hide at home. I use a credit union to pay my debts, but that's it. I no longer trust that 1) they will have my $ when I want it, and 2) that I wont have to tell them what I want to do WITH MY OWN MONEY when I want to remove it.

And frankly, interest rates on savings accts for less than $10k is .01%. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Oh, but wait! Over $10k is .07%!! Hahaha! I am more comfortable having my money hidden at home. It isnt worth putting it in the bank.

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Naomi's avatar

I can understand your thinking. Bear in mind with an inflation rate (government declared) of over 8% your money is shrinking each year drastically. Using the "rule of 72" the money you hide today will have zero spending power in 9 years.

I think you would be better off setting up a Roth IRA, putting in each year's full amount, and putting the rest of your savings into a no load mutual fund.

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Kelly's avatar

ROTH IRA's are still involved in the stock market. Biden has eaten up $6000 of mine in two years. By the time he is done, there will be nothing left. I see no logical reason to invest there. At all. I didnt have a lot there to begin with, but now it is considerably less.

In fact, I've been meaning to call my investor to close the account. Yes, I will lose 28%, but at least I will walk away with SOMEthing.

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Naomi's avatar

You should speak with Dave Ramsay before you do this. Don't cut off your nose to spite your face. It's going to get worse over the next 2 years but hang in there. It will get better once we have a new president.

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Kelly's avatar

Wow....you have much more faith in things than I do. I dont think we will HAVE another president, ever, if we dont turn things around somehow. It will become a dictatorship.

And I dont see us turning this around, unfortunately.

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Naomi's avatar

I must remain hopeful. It's scary to see how fast one bad, corrupt, incompetent, stupid, demented president can harm our country and also the world in less than 2 years.

I have always believed inflation would focus the minds of many who go about their daily lives and don't vote or learn any issues. I think that is happening. Imagine the stadiums full of college students chanting F*ck Joe Biden. Ever think that would happen spontaneously all around the country?

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Harold Saive's avatar

ANSWER THIS: (1) How can Covid-19 (SARS-CoV-2) possibly be called a BIOWEAPON when the recovery rate is greater than 99.63% for everyone up to age 85? (2) And why are we now being gaslighted concerning how such a nothing-burger virus escaped from a lab in China, or not? - https://justpaste.it/8lpjn

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Naomi's avatar

You should listen to Dr. Yeadon on American Thought Leaders. He was a vice president at Pfizer. What he has to say about the mRNA "vaccine" will chill your blood.

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Harold Saive's avatar

I saw that but my question is about the flu-like virus and narrative promoting a weaponized nothing-burger Covid virus.

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David Cashion's avatar

Covid-19 is the excuse to launch the bio weapon.

I assume you know what the bio weapon is.

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Naomi's avatar

When it first came on the scene it wasn't a "nothing burger." People were becoming very ill with it. It was a new virus and the medical establishment didn't know how to deal with it and panicked. Now, WITH HINDSIGHT, we have a different perspective. You have to remember how it was when it first came on the scene.

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Harold Saive's avatar

The statistics from the link I provided remain true. When panic sets in, many people confabulate all sicknesses as Covid sickness. For example, the CDC stopped counting Flu cases and only counted Covid. Collateral damage due to panic, joblessness, suicides added to the perceived death "Covid" death count. When the collateral deaths are subtracted Prof. Deni Rancourt reported there was no real covid pandemic in the US or Canada - https://www.corbettreport.com/mortality/

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Myriam's avatar

I was sick as a dog December 2019 before there was any mention of Covid. On several occasions I thought to myself “This could kill me.” I didn’t go to the doctor because that’s not how I care for myself. I took a multitude of botanicals that are antiviral, antimicrobial, antibiotic in nature plus several supplements I would take for a bad cold or flu. It felt like broken glass in my lungs. It brought me to my knees and took me over a month to feel 100%. My eldest daughter had something similar happen to her October-November of 2019. She was extremely sick for weeks.

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Myriam's avatar

Someone I know who is incredibly healthy became very sick last year for more than 10 days and did not feel better until she started taking ivermectin. I think we’re being assaulted, via multiple mechanisms. I believe there’s much more to this than what the eye can see or what the mind can imagine!

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Naomi's avatar

I think so too. I have 2 Rx for Ivermectin in the house.

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David Cashion's avatar

Nothing has changed except the natural progression of a virus, becomes weaker spreads better.

People did know how to respond, they weren't allowed.

The purpose of G of F is to make a extremely lethal easily spread virus.

They failed with Covid-19 but had a back up plan use the vaccine as a bio weapon.

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Myriam's avatar

The vaccines are also creating mutations of the bio weapon.

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Naomi's avatar

Yeah, right. We know this NOW in October 2022. Everyone was terrified back in 2019. You forget.

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Copernicus's avatar

Well, FLCCC says currently 20% of patients have long VID, even w early treatment. So, that’s not an inconsequential number of people who are incapacitated in some way or another for some period of time beyond two weeks.

Those folks aren’t able to engage as fully in their communities (think, volunteer at school, advocate for local political candidates, run for school board, call their county commissioners about local public health dept overreach, serve in the soup kitchen, teach an after school club for kids, etc, etc). Nor are they able to engage as well with their families (kids may need to be babysat by the TV because mom or dad is too exhausted or in too much pain to engage, household projects may be left undone, family budget goes to dr visits and medicines for ongoing symptoms, etc, etc).

So yeah, it’s not an ordinary bug. It was designed to be more infectious.

And then of course there is the proposed cure, which certainly seems to be designed to murder and maim.

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Rhonda Roland's avatar

Jeff, it is obvious you are being used by God to do His great and good works especially after seeing your Epoch interview. Thank you for hearing and obeying the call, I think He has some great work for you to do. Keep listening and following His call and we, your C&C Army, will be behind you all the way!

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Martha's avatar

Would love to hear more about the bicycle ride on the road to Damascus...

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Jamie's avatar

Agreed! 😉

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Harold Saive's avatar

I would say Jeff made a choice.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

"They don't care if we die. They don't care if more people are disabled by this. They don't care if kids have to live with knowing that they gave a virus to a family member and it killed them or disabled them."

*Gasp*, I never thought I would agree with a Covidian. She just made a small typo when she spelled "vaccine" as "virus."

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Alice P. Liddell's avatar

I just wonder how some kid would think that they were responsible for grandma's death. Are their woke parents going to tell 4-year old Johnny that his cold killed grandma? Imagine the conversations at Thanksgiving years later. Johnny says to Mary, "Remember the time you threw a baseball and it broke the garage window?" Mary replies, "Remember the time you killed grandma?"

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Painfully true, Alice. The amount of psychological, emotional, social, and physical damage that has been done to children in the name of COVID is grievous and incalculable.

Liz Cole’s and Molly Kingsley’s “The Children’s Inquiry” captures an inkling of this damage, and it is devastating.

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DogsLife's avatar

"Grievous and incalculable" and irreversible. The damage done to infants especially, and all children in general, by covering faces has been something I have been banging the drum over since the beginning. It's maddening.

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Annie's avatar

Anywhere you find a high concentration of karens, you will find a high concentration of misery. Nasty vile people are karens.

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daverkb's avatar

What do you think is going to happen some day when the kids grow up and find out what has been done to them because of the jabs? There will be anger ... and the blow back could be massive and highly destructive to families. And that's no consider all of the highly destructive division damage already done.

I think about this all the time.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

It is a valid concern, but I would rather them have the awareness and emotional capacity for such a response than to have been psychologically conditioned to accept their states as obedient slaves.

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daverkb's avatar

Agreed ... and this awareness down the line maybe a generational game changer. There is such a thing as unintentional consequences ... and the Cretin Stupid Geniuses seem not to understand that there maybe longer consequences to their actions. They seem not to understand that lies eventually catch up with the liars.

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Befferz's avatar

Me too. This & "adults" not protecting them from the trans thing but encouraging them to become life-long patients is going to make for a lot of angry adults in the near future.

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Annie's avatar

In the area I live in that is what a lot of these poor excuses for parents did. Wear a mask or you can kill grandma. The kids have anxiety, mental issues etc. With the parents they have, there's not much hope for a happy life.

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Nora Riccardi's avatar

Sadly in upstate NY and in the Berkshires of MA I still see kids in public wearing masks. Cloth masks at that. People are so deaf dumb and blind.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Tragic and pitiful.

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Barbara C. Nixon's avatar

There is a pro jab commercial with child saying he got jab to protect grandma!

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

🤦‍♀️😿

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Anne Clifton's avatar

I'm 70 and my grandchildren had better not tell me they got vaccinated to protect me! I fear for them because their mother made them get the jab while both were less than 16 years old.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

I am so sorry to hear that, Anne. Perhaps you can sneak them some supplements and pine needle tea for spike protein detoxing (https://worldcouncilforhealth.org/resources/spike-protein-detox-guide/).

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Anne Clifton's avatar

Good idea, but I have very little access to them and their mother is extremely difficult. She knows everything. I'm sorry to say their father (my son) got at least one jab because he thought his children would be kept away from him if he did not. As it is, he sees them 2 or 3 times a year.

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Harold Saive's avatar

ANSWER THIS: (1) How can Covid-19 (SARS-CoV-2) possibly be called a BIOWEAPON when the recovery rate is greater than 99.63% for everyone up to age 85? (2) And why are we now being gaslighted concerning how such a nothing-burger virus escaped from a lab in China, or not? - https://justpaste.it/8lpjn

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Annie's avatar

Dr. Tool is a tool. When a covidiot says I don't care I reply I don't.

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Cyn's avatar

🤣🤣🤣

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Grammy's avatar

Jeff. Your “American thought leaders” chat with Jan on Epoch Times TV was so good. Great job and thanks for being a Warrior!!!

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Rhonda G's avatar

Amen! We need heroes to rise up in times like these, and Jeff is one of them!

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Steve Miller's avatar

PayPal also banned the purchase of firearms and ammunition in its latest update to its policies. That is why I closed my account. Banning commerce in dealing legal products to appeal to some sense of correctness or to bow to political persuasion is abhorrent behavior that I will not embrace or support in any fashion!

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Amy Bee's avatar

Watch our own government. This was at the end of Trump’s term: https://thehill.com/policy/finance/534197-regulator-finalizes-rule-forcing-banks-to-serve-oil-gun-companies/ It was quickly reversed during the first month of the Biden Administration.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Yeah, it's a pain. I use paypal a LOT to buy stuff overseas because it's universal.

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Kim's avatar

Paypal banned firearms and ammunition sales through its platform years ago.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

So have venmo and zelle I think

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KatLee's avatar

So I can now form a legal polyamorous relationship with my cats and claim the tax advantages?!?! Sweet!!! Bring on the 87,000 IRS agents! 🙄😉😹

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Annie's avatar

That group photo was a poster for mental illness.

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David Cashion's avatar

Ditto

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RJ Rambler's avatar

You know how to use the laser beam cat attack, right?

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KatLee's avatar

Purrrrrrrfectly!

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Anne Clifton's avatar

The Epoch Times interview was awesome! I need to watch it a second time to be sure I didn't miss anything. (I got caught up a bit with the live chat.) I had no idea the extent of your efforts or how early they began, as I have only followed you for a few months. You are a hero!

I've posted a lot on Farcebook and so far, have not been put in jail. I got pushback from a church friend yesterday. It bothered me, but I know my motivation is to make people aware of the truth surrounding this plandemic. I have been so disappointed that my pastors are silent on this. One of them, who received the jabs, has been sick for about a month now. Apparently he had a weak immune system already and the jabs may have finished it off. People like you and the heroic doctors and scientists encourage me to keep doing what I can to wake people up. Thank you!

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LuAnne's avatar

Same here. From the beginning of this scamdemic (I'm not denying c-vd exists but rather it was used as a HUGE power play by our government), I've been faced with being called a conspiracy theorist, I lost a long time friend because I told her I thought this virus was being politically used, and I can't tell you how many of my friends all ran to get their shots (many getting 3rd & 4th) and proudly proclaiming how virtuous they were for saving grandma (or their other friends & family). I'm always left scratching my head. I just don't get it. Except for my husband, my 2 adult daughters, and my sister, no one will discuss what has and what is obviously happening. I feel like people should be shouting from the rooftops but instead, they're staying quiet.

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Julia C's avatar

Luanne - same here. I’m closest with my sister and thank goodness we have the exact same thinking about all this! We’ve been awake to all the nonsense since pretty early on. My mother was more scared in the beginning cause she’s older and it took her a bit longer to see what was going on but, she eventually opened her eyes. She got the first two jabs and then refused to get anymore and even retired early when her work was forcing the booster issue so, go Mom! My best friend for years has always asked me for medical advice as I was a nurse so, she will listen to me tell her about the dangers of jab and I will tell her about articles, medical journals, podcasts, blogs, etc. all the information I’ve read or listened to about all sorts of topics like masking data, COVID numbers, big pharma, etc, but I still feel like it all goes in one ear and out the other. She believes what I tell her, but then will believe the false data someone else or the news tells her a minute later and ask me about it whenever we talk. It’s exhausting but, I guess I’m glad she listens at least. My sister has a neighbor/friend who she doesn’t see anymore because she’s become a virtue signaling COVID zealot. She’s still masking outdoors and in our area, masks have disappeared now. She just got her 5th jab too, with an immune deficiency, and despite having heart symptoms after jab two. And yes of course, she posted her selfie pointing to her bandaid on social media. There comes a point where you stop feeling bad for people like that because they’ve been given all the information and just willfully ignore it all.

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daverkb's avatar

All of our relatives are the same. One will agree with our information, but also also agree with contrary information given out by friends ... and still continue shooting up the toxins. And after two or more years of this, my conclusion is that some people just don't think. And there is nothing much one can do about this. It's all that Bible stuff of father against son, mother against daughter and so on. It's true and we are seeing it. The choice really is between God and Truth ... and the lies, the fraud, the deceptive. God or the things of this world. And totally a stark division.

We are seeing things in our time barely imaginable. All those impossible dystopian Sci-Fi flics seem to be unfolding before our eyes.

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Anne Clifton's avatar

Daverkb, that's why I am so surprised that so many of my church friends, who of course consider themselves to be Christians, cannot, or will not, see what is happening. It would help if our pastor, as he is teaching right now through Revelation (!) would mention some of these things, but he won't. I can only think that he is ignorant also. He's willing to speak out about abortion, but not the covid/vaccine agenda.

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daverkb's avatar

As it is, one might notice that the churches of the collective West, nearly all of them, are fallen churches. And although this angered people at the time, Obama was correct when he said that the United States was a post-Christian society. And surprise, surprise, surprise ... sometimes the 'Dirty Commie Rats' tell the truth!

Second, the pastors nearly one and all have no real education at all. Not a classical eduction. Little or no depth of science, philosophy and/or world view differentiation. No understanding of law Man's or God's, no real history other than what our controllers want us to know. Pastors may go to seminary, but also to no great avail. In short, pastors don't connect dots simply because there aren't enough dots in their Dot Boxes to connect.

By way of illustration, our first church was a little country church. The people were very nice and the pastor also ... very nice. But we never studied Augustine, Luther or Calvin. We were never taught any of the 2000 some years of church history. Nothing on the Reformation. Zip on confessions of faith. No catechism instruction. I could have been in that church for a zillion years and not learned a thing.

Given all of this, I wonder how many pastors ever have heard of mRNA or nanolipid particulate? Less than a thimble full?

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Anne Clifton's avatar

Don't give up. We have to keep trying. I'm currently considering how I can increase my influence. I believe I have writing skills, but don't know how to make use of them to reach those who need to hear the truth. Farcebook posts are not enough.

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Harold Saive's avatar

ANSWER THIS: (1) How can Covid-19 (SARS-CoV-2) possibly be called a BIOWEAPON when the recovery rate is greater than 99.63% for everyone up to age 85? (2) And why are we now being gaslighted concerning how such a nothing-burger virus escaped from a lab in China, or not? - https://justpaste.it/8lpjn

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Anne Clifton's avatar

I suppose whether or not it is a bioweapon depends on the intent behind creating it, not how effective it was at killing. Even as ineffective as it should have been, the narrative pushers were able to increase its deadliness by denying early treatment and then killing with the use of remdesivir and ventilators. I'd like to know how the flu disappeared and now has reappeared. Could we have been using tests which were not accurate? (Sarcasm)

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RebeccaGrrrl's avatar

This guy Harold, that you replied too, is making this argument comment in several places along the comments on this post. Seems to be pushing an agenda... Not sure if a troll.

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POZIOMKA's avatar

I’m so grateful for you, Mr Childers! I’m so grateful that God picked you - courageous, brilliant and humble man, to lead us out of the oppressive system’s clutches. There is no one who would qualify more to do this difficult job. But God knew it and he created you for such a time as this. Thank you for being the leader that he created you to be.

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Brahms's avatar

May I just say that, spelled out, “let’s go Brandon” is “let us go, Brandon” - so it’s actually four words, not three. This is hilarious indeed.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

Just FYI - The email I received from PayPal justYESTERDAY, STILL has these ridiculous "rules" of monetary punishments (min $2500 per incident, their discretion, fines can be higher) for speaking something PayPal deems unacceptable on social media. So far, the only retraction has been by a PayPal spokesman on social media. Someone said they are protected by Section 230, but I don't see how. This is absolutely illegal and unconstitutional.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Doctor Joanie Tool: Proud winner ot the Aptonym Of The Year Award.

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Martha's avatar

However, if you trust Geert Vanden Bossche (GVB), a big surge is on the way:

It is 5 past 12 !

https://voiceforscienceandsolidarity.substack.com/p/it-is-5-past-12

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GVB is recommending prophylaxis for all ~ although it will be much rougher on the vaxxed.

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Anne Clifton's avatar

Thank you for sharing. I've heard him speak many times before, but was not aware of this new video.

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RebeccaGrrrl's avatar

Did I misread that... isn’t Geert saying the surge is within the jabbed?

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Martha's avatar

The jabbed are the variant incubators and will be hit hard. But to stop the virus, we must achieve herd immunity, which means all should using prophylactics to prevent/stop the chain of infection.

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Peace's avatar

I couldn't find anything on her in a search - except her Twitter account. Is she a praticing physician?

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

😂😂😂😂😂

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Bee…..liever's avatar

You got a great shout out by Dr. McCullough today on Telegram! You’re one of the heroes in this messed up world. https://t.me/PeterMcCulloughMD/2862

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Jeff Childers's avatar

Wow! nice, thanks for sharing this

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Naomi's avatar

I LOVE your Substack.

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aamejo@gmail.com's avatar

Sanibel City government is making it difficult for residents to return to the island to clean up their property. They are not making clean water available to residents even though they are providing it to city departments. Residents have to hire their own boats to get to the island. The city has not invited the Red Cross, Church groups, or other volunteer organizations that would normally be early responders to help the people with cleaning out their moldy lower levels. Residents are getting seriously dehydrated when working in heat for long hours. Can you investigate this? Government often forgets to be kind to the people that vote them in and with taxes pay their salaries.

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Mel's avatar

Good job on your interview with ET, Jeff. You didn’t look scared at all. And your makeup was SO nicely done! I’m jealous.

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Anne Clifton's avatar

American Thought Leaders' spokesperson (in the chat) said it was mostly to keep him from "looking shiny." 😁

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