US policy 8 years ago
“ Well, the Russians will run out of cash before the Europeans run out of energy. And I understand that it’s uncomfortable…” Condoleeza Rice
“ Over the long run, you simply want to change the structure of energy independence. You want [Europe] to depend more on the North American energy platform of …
“ Well, the Russians will run out of cash before the Europeans run out of energy. And I understand that it’s uncomfortable…” Condoleeza Rice
“ Over the long run, you simply want to change the structure of energy independence. You want [Europe] to depend more on the North American energy platform of oil and gas that we’re finding in North America”. C.R.
US policy today…
Biden said NS II would not happen, and that German perspective or opinion was not even relevant!
I take the assistant Secretary of State’s affirmation that NS II would not function, “ one way or the other “ very seriously.
Also, clear US policy was to create the Ukrainian conflict, and expand it. Russia wants it to end with Russian success.
The circumstances were that disparate European populations were fed up with the sacrifice of their economic lives for an area of Ukraine that voted close to 80 percent for the pro Russian Ukraine party in 2014. .
If and when, and my view is that it is only a matter of when ( due to the severe economic hardship barreling into the German economy) the people demand that the Russian demands are accepted, Russia will have won. Russia’s ace in the hold was the ability to liberate the energy starved broken EU economy.
Russia did not commit severe economic self-harm, and throw away their best chance at ending the Ukrainian venture in success, with some vague hope that they could pin this on the US and drive a wedge between Washington and the EU.
The sane folk in the EU were definitely beginning to drive that wedge for Russia.
The joint One World crowd is in solidarity with expanding the Ukraine conflict. The NS sabotage is highly capable of doing just that; expanding the Ukrainian conflict.
For Russia losing your strongest player, harming your own economic health at a critical juncture, risking getting caught in such a foolish adventure, all for a vague hope of pinning this on the US. (All in all, great risk, definite harms, very uncertain gain)
Additional reasons…
An impoverished Europe with manufacturing shut down benefits US Corporations greatly. $Billions & $Billions. The “threat” of an EU beating the USA economically is removed. ( short sighted and likely long term very wrong, but this has been US thought process)
Russian Gas Revenue gets shifted to USA gas revenue.
It conforms with and accelerates the Zero Carbon goals of Agenda 30 & Paris.
It moves Europe dramatically closer to the desired “Great Reset” status that the Biden Admin and the EU Government advocate. Can’t “build back better” until you have “burned beyond belief” after all.
Russia has continued to deliver gas & oil the whole time with the volume reduced when sanctions prevented Business As Usual. Hardly the actions of someone wanting to hurt their customer.
Forgetting about who performed the sabotage - Nord Stream is cut off from the EU but if Russia still supplies all of Ukraine, Putin has managed to capture all of Ukraine - not just the disputed settlements - in an energy fiat created by Biden;s NATO sabotage. Was this the intended outcome all along? If so, the real players are not Biden and Putin, but more likely the depopulationists at the WEF.
Russia hasn't captured all of Ukraine. The Ukrainians are currently performing massive offensives that are liberating important cities such as Lyman, Kremmina, and moving towards Kherson with a break through.
Ask the Russian sources about Lyman. They are distraught and depressed.
My point is that, because of the Nord Stream disaster, Putin still has nGAS supply to all of Ukraine, not just the disputed territories. If Putin destroys the Baltic Pipe in revenge for the Nord Stream, WEF will succeed in it's goal of energy starvation to the EU.
Russia did it eh?
US policy 8 years ago
“ Well, the Russians will run out of cash before the Europeans run out of energy. And I understand that it’s uncomfortable…” Condoleeza Rice
“ Over the long run, you simply want to change the structure of energy independence. You want [Europe] to depend more on the North American energy platform of oil and gas that we’re finding in North America”. C.R.
US policy today…
Biden said NS II would not happen, and that German perspective or opinion was not even relevant!
I take the assistant Secretary of State’s affirmation that NS II would not function, “ one way or the other “ very seriously.
Also, clear US policy was to create the Ukrainian conflict, and expand it. Russia wants it to end with Russian success.
The circumstances were that disparate European populations were fed up with the sacrifice of their economic lives for an area of Ukraine that voted close to 80 percent for the pro Russian Ukraine party in 2014. .
If and when, and my view is that it is only a matter of when ( due to the severe economic hardship barreling into the German economy) the people demand that the Russian demands are accepted, Russia will have won. Russia’s ace in the hold was the ability to liberate the energy starved broken EU economy.
Russia did not commit severe economic self-harm, and throw away their best chance at ending the Ukrainian venture in success, with some vague hope that they could pin this on the US and drive a wedge between Washington and the EU.
The sane folk in the EU were definitely beginning to drive that wedge for Russia.
The joint One World crowd is in solidarity with expanding the Ukraine conflict. The NS sabotage is highly capable of doing just that; expanding the Ukrainian conflict.
For Russia losing your strongest player, harming your own economic health at a critical juncture, risking getting caught in such a foolish adventure, all for a vague hope of pinning this on the US. (All in all, great risk, definite harms, very uncertain gain)
Additional reasons…
An impoverished Europe with manufacturing shut down benefits US Corporations greatly. $Billions & $Billions. The “threat” of an EU beating the USA economically is removed. ( short sighted and likely long term very wrong, but this has been US thought process)
Russian Gas Revenue gets shifted to USA gas revenue.
It conforms with and accelerates the Zero Carbon goals of Agenda 30 & Paris.
It moves Europe dramatically closer to the desired “Great Reset” status that the Biden Admin and the EU Government advocate. Can’t “build back better” until you have “burned beyond belief” after all.
Russia has continued to deliver gas & oil the whole time with the volume reduced when sanctions prevented Business As Usual. Hardly the actions of someone wanting to hurt their customer.
In my comment above from “additional reasons” on, I am quoting EM Smith at his blog here… https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2022/09/30/less-than-an-hour-the-world-changes/#comment-160356
( highly recommend)
Forgetting about who performed the sabotage - Nord Stream is cut off from the EU but if Russia still supplies all of Ukraine, Putin has managed to capture all of Ukraine - not just the disputed settlements - in an energy fiat created by Biden;s NATO sabotage. Was this the intended outcome all along? If so, the real players are not Biden and Putin, but more likely the depopulationists at the WEF.
Russia hasn't captured all of Ukraine. The Ukrainians are currently performing massive offensives that are liberating important cities such as Lyman, Kremmina, and moving towards Kherson with a break through.
Ask the Russian sources about Lyman. They are distraught and depressed.
What more needs to be said?
Or are you saying Russia is in kyiv right now?
My point is that, because of the Nord Stream disaster, Putin still has nGAS supply to all of Ukraine, not just the disputed territories. If Putin destroys the Baltic Pipe in revenge for the Nord Stream, WEF will succeed in it's goal of energy starvation to the EU.