The appropriate "caring for grandma" control here is for the sick person to stay home... self quarantine... when possible. If one can't stay home, one should CHOOSE to avoid harming others WHEN SICK.
The fallacy in your opinion is it has no scientific basis. And a healthy person wearing a mask only helps the mental anxiety of the other. A…
The appropriate "caring for grandma" control here is for the sick person to stay home... self quarantine... when possible. If one can't stay home, one should CHOOSE to avoid harming others WHEN SICK.
The fallacy in your opinion is it has no scientific basis. And a healthy person wearing a mask only helps the mental anxiety of the other. And, sorry, not my responsibility.
BTW, my "opinion" is backed by both scientific studies and the Constitution. What is yours backed by?
And, yes, I understand and respect your plea for calm discussion. But that doesn't mean nobody can disagree with you or ask for facts behind your opinion.
I spent 18 months keeping my factually accurate opinions to myself in face of rude idiots scared out of their wits. Out of respect for grandmas everywhere. That ship has sailed. I'm not allowing even polite bullies to make me do scientifically stupid things. Move to a state where blue science is the norm if you need that, but leave me alone. Please.
Most of us want calm discussion and good faith replies to our comments, I know it annoys me when people twist my words to try and gain some perceived advantage. I have two teenage boys so I completely understand and have plenty of experience with it.
But the mature response to bad faith replies is to call out the commenter and specifically point out the flaws and falsehood in their response. With our resident Ukraine defenders it's like shooting a fish in a barrel, they are so used to dealing with half-wits they have no idea how to respond to logical counter-responses.
What people are reacting to Angela, is your demand that people "don't jump on me" in your initial comment and then immediately throwing that in M VARR's face when he replied respectfully. You don't get to set the rules of the discussion, and declare certain thoughts or questions off-limits. If you think someone is replying dishonestly then reply to them and dissect their comment and tell us why. That's how thoughtful adults debate things.
Most of us are sick and tired of people telling us what we are and aren't allowed to say. That's why you are getting such a visceral reaction Angela, as your comments attempted to limit other's response out of some sort of misplaced politeness. In case you hadn't noticed, that is exactly what got us into the mess of the last few years and is the tactic at the heart of cancel culture (i.e. your opinions may hurt my feelings so you aren't allowed to say them).
Wow! I just didnt want people's emotional outbursts, which I got from *some*. That us what is at the heart of everything bad today: emotionalism. That is what our propaganda media has done to us. That is what this venue of the internet writing has done to us. The art of conversation with its back and forth nuances has died.
I understand that. And it is hard to “hear” tone and easy to misconstrue intent on this kind of platform, which can make discussions touchy sometimes. I appreciate that you are willing to put your thoughts out there and discuss them.
I think the thing is, many in the medical field are the ones using emotions into manipulating people to wear masks. They know people need to see their friends and family or get medical care, so they will comply because they can’t risk not getting access. There is no science supporting mask wearing (especially cloth and surgical masks that are not tested and fitted) for the prevention of respiratory illness. I think some of the reactions you are getting is because the medical community has manipulated people into believing masks do something when they don’t. Thus perpetuating the lie. And your initial statement made it sound like you thought that because medical centers still require masks to be worn, there might be some valid reason for that. There isn’t. At all. And it is exasperating how well the sheep in the medical field have stuck to this totally unscientific protocol and how they’ve been able to convince people that the practice is justified. I think what you’re hearing is a lot of frustration about how well the propaganda campaign has worked and how hard it is to convince people that masks don’t work. I hope that makes sense.
Enabling is not an effective strategy. I am worn out from trying to protect someone’s feeling. This is petty but no one tried to protect my feeling during this debacle, demonic experience. Sound selfish, not going to apologize but I will reflect.
The appropriate "caring for grandma" control here is for the sick person to stay home... self quarantine... when possible. If one can't stay home, one should CHOOSE to avoid harming others WHEN SICK.
The fallacy in your opinion is it has no scientific basis. And a healthy person wearing a mask only helps the mental anxiety of the other. And, sorry, not my responsibility.
BTW, my "opinion" is backed by both scientific studies and the Constitution. What is yours backed by?
And, yes, I understand and respect your plea for calm discussion. But that doesn't mean nobody can disagree with you or ask for facts behind your opinion.
I spent 18 months keeping my factually accurate opinions to myself in face of rude idiots scared out of their wits. Out of respect for grandmas everywhere. That ship has sailed. I'm not allowing even polite bullies to make me do scientifically stupid things. Move to a state where blue science is the norm if you need that, but leave me alone. Please.
Most of us want calm discussion and good faith replies to our comments, I know it annoys me when people twist my words to try and gain some perceived advantage. I have two teenage boys so I completely understand and have plenty of experience with it.
But the mature response to bad faith replies is to call out the commenter and specifically point out the flaws and falsehood in their response. With our resident Ukraine defenders it's like shooting a fish in a barrel, they are so used to dealing with half-wits they have no idea how to respond to logical counter-responses.
What people are reacting to Angela, is your demand that people "don't jump on me" in your initial comment and then immediately throwing that in M VARR's face when he replied respectfully. You don't get to set the rules of the discussion, and declare certain thoughts or questions off-limits. If you think someone is replying dishonestly then reply to them and dissect their comment and tell us why. That's how thoughtful adults debate things.
Most of us are sick and tired of people telling us what we are and aren't allowed to say. That's why you are getting such a visceral reaction Angela, as your comments attempted to limit other's response out of some sort of misplaced politeness. In case you hadn't noticed, that is exactly what got us into the mess of the last few years and is the tactic at the heart of cancel culture (i.e. your opinions may hurt my feelings so you aren't allowed to say them).
We just aren't going to play along anymore.
Wow! I just didnt want people's emotional outbursts, which I got from *some*. That us what is at the heart of everything bad today: emotionalism. That is what our propaganda media has done to us. That is what this venue of the internet writing has done to us. The art of conversation with its back and forth nuances has died.
I understand that. And it is hard to “hear” tone and easy to misconstrue intent on this kind of platform, which can make discussions touchy sometimes. I appreciate that you are willing to put your thoughts out there and discuss them.
I think the thing is, many in the medical field are the ones using emotions into manipulating people to wear masks. They know people need to see their friends and family or get medical care, so they will comply because they can’t risk not getting access. There is no science supporting mask wearing (especially cloth and surgical masks that are not tested and fitted) for the prevention of respiratory illness. I think some of the reactions you are getting is because the medical community has manipulated people into believing masks do something when they don’t. Thus perpetuating the lie. And your initial statement made it sound like you thought that because medical centers still require masks to be worn, there might be some valid reason for that. There isn’t. At all. And it is exasperating how well the sheep in the medical field have stuck to this totally unscientific protocol and how they’ve been able to convince people that the practice is justified. I think what you’re hearing is a lot of frustration about how well the propaganda campaign has worked and how hard it is to convince people that masks don’t work. I hope that makes sense.
Enabling is not an effective strategy. I am worn out from trying to protect someone’s feeling. This is petty but no one tried to protect my feeling during this debacle, demonic experience. Sound selfish, not going to apologize but I will reflect.
And even more so with this comment. Thank you for stating my feelings so eloquently.
One heart is not enough approval for this excellent response.