Judge jails mask objector; CDC hires same PR firm as Pfizer, Moderna; Biden nukes Chinese chipmakers; EU investigates jabs; Epstein worked for the FBI; FBI arrests senior sitters; and lots more.
Steve Kirsch compiled studies that verify masks PRIOR TO COVID were and are as useless as the jabs in preventing transmission of respiratory pathogens.... Don’t hate on me... I’m just sharing the incomparable indomitable persistent Steve Kirsch’s Herculean commitment to stop the lies and get anyone pushing them to debate his (Steve’s) collection of facts....https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/masks-fail-their-latest-test
It seems to me that the judge was more about control. Also it figures that he was a hate filled democrat and that this was a political reaction. Not allowing the man to call his children, and putting him in jail instead of dismissing him was beyond logical.
In Florida here: all hospitals and doctor offices still want it, and I dont personally mind in *those settings*. Whatever. 🤷The Asians have been doing it forever. Maybe viruses and flu can be controlled a bit this way? If it can help that in *MEDICAL* settings where people are already sick or immuno-compromised then so be it.
I *DID* mind when it was required/COMPULSARY by workplaces to discriminate between vaccinated and non vaccinated.
I DID mind when like the judge, it is a political statement!!
For me, vaccines are a worse story.. For me, that was pure draconian evil.
Dont jump on me. We are all entitled to our opinion.
That is since covid. Google with time restriction pre 2019 and the world of study on the futility of community masking is your oyster! While there, do a little search for the physical and mental health problems with masking. You will be shocked I think. Maybe you would (for our edification) include a link to a scientific peer reviewed double blind study that lends credence to masking being a social and health benefit. I am willing to read it.
Masks we have been forced to wear are meant to keep spittle out of the patient's bodies during operations. What they are used for now is a crutch for the mentally ill. Wake up M Varr.
I managed -- somehow -- to commute on stuffed subway cars during the winter, up close and personal with sneezers, coughers, nose blowers -- and when I tell you I cannot remember the last cold or flu I've had, I mean it. I can also tell you that virtually every co-worker in my small department lined up for the "flu" shots -- and who was the one who was never sick with the flu?
I said 'dont jump on me' for my opinion. It is from observation for *medical settings*.
I didnt make the rules. They do.
However, I had a cold recently at work. There was no way I could control sneezing or blowing my nose. I felt terrible because I knew that without a mask (I wasnt wearing one) one of my coworkers would catch it. Two did.
When we were wearing masks back in 2020, again I had a cold. No one caught it. Just observation. Perhaps that is why *medical settings* in Florida, a FREE RED STATE still require it? We are all entitled to our opinions with respect, or we become no better or less hateful than that *demoncrat* politically motivated judge.
Angela, this is only my observation but during my professional life I was required to be “fit-tested” for an N-95 mask yearly because I was told that “masks cannot stop viruses, not even minimally”. This was drilled into my head. Imagine my surprise when all this was suddenly and forcefully reversed! No supporting studies, no data, just mr. fauci asserting the necessity. And 25 years of OSHA studies scrubbed from their .gov website. It was then when the lightbulb got switched on for me personally. It wasn’t about infection. At all. The only concern I have for your viewpoint is that it encourages the continuing influence of fear among people. Fear of human contact, free interaction. Fear that unintentionally and perhaps unconsciously becomes magnified so that the presence or absence of a mask determines one’s social behavior. It has had such a negative impact on our children, and our society in general that it really ought to be avoided. It is part of the healing that we must do.
Credenda - glad you noticed all the hypocrisy too! Especially with OSHA, like seriously…double, nay, triple facepalm on that one. When I worked in nursing, every year we had to take an infection control and procedures test. Same test, year after year. Every year it would ask us what the top tier of universal precautions was and every year it was the same…hand washing! Nothing on that test about masking procedures because in my area, family practice, they never applied to us despite us being the ones who were seeing all the patients with strep, influenza, colds, etc. How many hundreds and hundreds of people have I swapped throats for strep and flu over 12 years and never was a mask worn. I worked through the entire H1N1 pandemic, immunocompromised to boot, and we never wore a mask. None of the doctors gave two craps either that I was immunocompromised, wasn’t even mentioned or a thought in their heads. The whole pandemic was just business as usual. In 12 years I got sick with Fifth’s Disease once, which my nephew gave me outside clinic, and strep and influenza each once which I could have gotten from a patient but, could very well have also gotten from one of my nephews or nieces too. At work, I washed my hands a hundred times a day, it’s just what we did, not masking. People now have it in their heads that we should mask forever for cold and flu seasons as if all this new information suddenly was brought to light because of COVID and now that we know better we can do the correct thing. Yeah no, we had all the information but then these government agencies needed something to appear to the public like they were “doing something” and the masking was such an easy thing to have propagandized. They literally got an entire country to fear the unmasked face. I still know people who won’t stop masking outside. They literally live, in October 2022, where like 99% of people are not masking anymore yet they still believe their mask is having a meaningful difference to “protect others”. That’s the problem with the healthcare facilities. I’m spending 100% of my time without a mask on my face. I go to grocery stores, my sisters home, the local fair, restaurants, I don’t even wear one during my Remicade infusions because I managed to get exemption for that one place, yet somehow the 30 minutes I wear one to my neurology follow up is supposed to save me somehow? Please.
Yes yes yes a thousand times yes to your posts Credenda and Julia C!!! The actual science and data never justified any of this and yet people have been convinced that it might help so we should still do it. No and no. But it is an uphill battle to undo the damage from the constant propaganda over the past two years 😕
Julia C- Amen to everything you said! I find it crazy that something that would have been seen as abnormal prior to 2020, is now widely accepted everywhere, and still FORCED on us by some "heath care" professionals and offices. If some folks out there still feel reassured by the masks, OK fine, let them wear it, but leave the rest of us alone.
The government agency weren’t seeking to appear to be “doing something”. Masking was 1) establish authority where none existed before and 2) to gauge compliance
My post was completely misconstrued by most. I have been to the hospital many more times than I would like lately 2020 - 2022 due to mom with cancer, husband who had brain surgery, etc.
I am in the beautiful free state of Florida.
All the *medical settings* still require it.
Right or wrong, what can I do? Make a scene? I politely comply.
You can tell them that you find their participation in a lie deeply disturbing. Their participation in this lie also casts some serious doubt on their medical proficiency, professionalism, and integrity.
I recently had an episode (over the bars on my mountain bike) where I had to go find an emergency room or urgent to check out the extent of the damage. I was out of town at the time in another state. I found both a hospital emergency room and urgent care. At both, I told them that I would not wear a mask. Both venues told me they would not see me. At the urgent care, I videotaped the Dr telling me he would not look at my injury unless I put a mask on. A Dr that came out from behind a partition putting on a mask as he approached me. So, nobody was wearing them anyway until I asked to be seen.
I thought about it for awhile and returned to the hospital emergency room. I told the receptionist that I needed to be seen to ascertain my injuries and, under duress, would wear the mask. But, I asked her for a pen and paper, and the name of the attending physician or nurses assistant. I wrote on the paper that I was being forced against my will to put on a mask to receive emergency medical evaluation and the the attending physician was the one enforcing this measure. I asked her to have him sign it. She passed it into another cubicle and, after a moment, the AP stuck his head out and declared “I’m not signing this!” “Why’, I asked, “is any part of it not true?” He let out a disgusted sigh and told me to wait out in waiting room and he’d check me out in a minute.
Turns out nothing life threatening and I got out of there without donning a mask.
I sympathize with you because I was in a similar situation last winter and complied because they had the power to stop me from seeing my dying mom and I couldn’t do anything about it 😞 So I get that, I really do.
The part that concerns me about your post is more that you seemed to be saying, unless I misunderstood, that because these medical settings were requiring the masks, maybe that meant they had some effect even if it might be limited. That is nonsense and not supported by any science over the past decades. Masks can actually increase transmission and cause other undesirable effects so even if there were any benefits on one side, they would be negated by the adverse effects. But there are no benefits especially against an aerosolized respiratory virus.
I hear what you’re saying, and that you’re trying to be considerate of your coworkers, but what about all our lives, before all this Covid19 crap, when we all got colds, all the time, and of course sometimes passed them along to each other? You never wore a mask back then. Think about why you now believe you should wear a mask whenever you have a cold. In other words, consider the possibility that the propaganda is still working on you.
I said that I dont mind complying when I am in a **hospital setting*You misconstrued my post..
I DID not say that I wore one when I had a cold recently.
I simply made an anecdotal observation. THAT is all. I have had a husband in hospital with brain surgery, an 87 year old mom with cancer, so I have been to many medical settings lately, unfortunately. AND I am in Florida.
"I said 'don't hate on me' for my opinion." Where did M VARR in any way indicate even the slightest indication of anything ever remotely suggesting hate? He very politely asked you a reasonable question as you were making a claim about science and health.
You stated an opinion and received a request to share any scientific evidence you had to back it up, and you immediately suggest that question is "hateful", sounding a lot like all the propaganda reinforcing censorship, to me.
I also don't hate you for sure--I don't even know you--but I do find that comment with its implied and completely unjustified accusation--manipulative and dishonest, and thus very annoying.
Definitely the wrong place to be hoping not to get jumped on for saying mildly positive things about masks!
C&C is populated by hard core mask haters. I'd include myself in that category, but I too find myself reluctantly wearing masks in some healthcare settings. You have the choice of masking up or making a big scene and probably being asked to leave, which doesn't help much when you're trying to get some business done or visiting someone. I generally just put my stupid mask on below my nose and these days that is adequate to project minimal compliance.
More importantly, if you can, avoid the msm medical community and doctors. I refused a dental check up because they still insist on the mask. I said no thanks. They were surprised.
I can relate…my Dentist was completely overboard on the mask/sanitizing thing…so I had to change Dentists! Harder to change Dr because I otherwise really like my Dr. She says we only have to wear masks in waiting room, take off in exam room….unfortunately they can get fined by the State (CA)
Yes I do that too. Even though even the CDC doesn’t recommend them anymore, seems like Medical facilities continue this uncalled for practice. I have a mask made out of netting (you can’t tell it’s virtually breath thru). And I wear that one below my nose.
Yes, before I, thank the Lord, found a PC physician and common sense dentist who had no mask mandate, I always wore the ‘fake mask.’They are easy to obtain. Why would you wear one that restricts your breathing?
Paula- I have one of those types of masks for "emergency use only" like certain medical offices. It was the best thing I ever bought in 2020- conventional masks give me panic attacks and gag me.
I wanted to get one of those fake masks, but never got around to it!
As I work in healthcare and intermittently have to don a mask, I have special N95's I've modified that fit very loosely and have holes punched in strategic locations. Probably not as breathable as netting, but they are tolerable for short periods.
It seems to me you would have to remove the mask to “blow your nose”…what makes more sense is to stay home and/or WASH YOUR HANDS after blowing your nose to prevent spreading. As far as sneezing, you could sneeze into a Kleenex or handkerchief which would do much to prevent spreading. I do this consistently for allergies.
Oh Paula I have to share a kind of funny and gross story. I was using a mask when it was 'required' (in a freakin grocery store) and started to feel the need to sneeze. What was my immediate response? Take off the dang mask!!! In a milli-second I laugh-sneezed and kept my mask on. HOW GROSS IS THAT!?! I thought OMG this is why we wear these, and it's disgusting and NOW WHAT DO I DO?! Luckily in those few moments I wore a mask, I kept extras in my purse. And I always have tissue. And hand sanitizer then.
Your response is unnecessarily rude. I am not four years old. I know all that and practice it. Unfortunately however, as for staying home, unless you lie and say you have covid, the boss says you must still come in.
I have a feeling it may be less about the mask, and more about not wiping with fingers or hand parts that spread it? Just wondering aloud. Are you still using hand sanitizer? I have a friend who works on the floor at a Costco and said that with the masking he didn't get sick like usual either. I forgot to ask him about hand sanitizing. But I think it's much more about HANDS than masks. I'm curious if anyone will be able to back this up.
I have a hand sanitizer right next to me at work. Use it all the time, but you are right that hands play a crucial rule in not transmitting viruses.
I remember when my children were young, I was getting sick all the time. One day at the pediatrician office, my child was sick and so was I. He told me about being meticulous about hand washing and how it would help, especially after a supermarket run! (all those hands of children and adults touching the same cart ).
He was right! After heeding his advice, I rarely got sick again.
I agree about the hand washing. I learned abut that from my mother and have always been careful about it when out in public. And I almost never got sick. Lately I've noticed that all the hand sanitizers and wipes for shopping carts etc. have disappeared in most places. Hopefully people picked up better hand washing habits throughout all this, though.
I think the CDC still has masks in place for medical facilities, and the state of emergency has not been lifted. Nobody is going to go after the FL facilities that don't comply.
Angela, you didn’t “had a cold lately”, you caught a cold………through some form of transmission. Aerosol-borne likely, or did you “catch” it from someone else who was or wasn’t wearing a mask? In the end, do you believe masks actually “stop” transmission or are they used more for virtue-signaling? No judgement here, just an ask for your thoughts. Thanks for putting it out there.
Sounds good in principle. Alas the real world is more complex. How about the case of the jailed juror? Did you know that (at least in Florida) if one is summoned for jury duty and fails to appear, one can be hauled off to jail (although, I think that is rare?) In many jobs one only has limited (or no) sick days, and faces firing for failure to appear. Now, it's true that for most such demands a person doesn't risk jail, but there are an endless number of legitimate reasons a sick person might need to leave his home. And finally, there is the dismaying fact that humans are stubborn. Even if they know they are contagious or somehow otherwise pose a risk, a lot of people are bullheaded and will still go out in public.
Sadly, most people demanding a peer reviewed, double blind studies are the same ones falling for the plandemic scare tactics and rolling up their sleeves. Don’t be one of them.
1. Annals of Internal Medicine: "Therefore, evidence for mask use versus nonuse and comparing masks types in health care settings remained insufficient" https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/L20-1292
2. Annals of Internal Medicine: "The recommendation to wear surgical masks to supplement other public health measures did not reduce the SARS-CoV-2 infection rate among wearers by more than 50% in a community with modest infection rates" https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-6817
5. "However, overall there is a lack of substantial evidence to support claims that facemasks protect either patient or surgeon from infectious contamination." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4480558/
6. "No evidence was identified that examined a potential role for surgical face masks in protecting staff from infectious material encountered in the operating room." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK195765/
7. Southern Medical Journal: "There was no reduction in per-population daily mortality, hospital bed, ICU bed, or ventilator occupancy of COVID-19-positive patients attributable to the implementation of a mask-wearing mandate." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8395971/
10. "the difficulties associated with the mask’s use are significantly pronounced in children aged between 3 and 5 years old." https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34591895/
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Not going to hate on you at all, however, your assertion is without merit. Our Asian brethren, have been socially conditioned for eons. If I'm not mistaken, I believe a great many of them wear masks because of living in highly industrialized areas. The air quality is crap. There are probably several non-medical reasons that some opt for face diapers. Just as a side note, the "go-along's-to-get-along's" exacerbate the situation.
Eric - I have read articles and watched many a documentary which also explained that as well as the pollution aspect, there is a huge proportion of people, especially young adults, who like wearing masks as an “accessory” of sorts to hide their faces when they don’t “feel they look their best” or don’t want to put the effort in to get ready or wear makeup, and also many wear them in an effort to hide their faces from the constant CCTV surveillance. Can’t have social credit deducted if it can’t recognize your face. Americans see a mask in Asia and immediately assume it’s just being used for a “medical” purpose and that is definitely not the case.
Indeed. I definitely found the surveillance aspect of Asian masking quite interesting, especially when you understand that any deemed “infraction” not only can affects your credit score, but can affect your families scores as well. I would think they are highly in tune and sensitive to this.
Yeah the interesting aspect was with the younger generations saying things like, “I like that I don’t have to show my teeth”, or “I wear one when I don’t want to put on makeup”, or even women saying that it stopped men from catcalling them on the street and no one would annoyingly tell them to “smile” during conversations. This particular article was written by someone who grew up in Asia and was telling you that the masking culture there is very much highly psychological, ingrained in nature and not all medical/pollution. The scary part was once our citizens had been wearing them for so long and the propaganda was set in, you then literally started hearing the EXACT same rhetoric coming out of our teens and people over here in America about how they enjoy them for hiding their faces and emotions from other people. Very dangerous.
Agree Julia C and Eric. I even read an analysis about how masks had started to make people in Japan consider the face a private part of the body and feel uncomfortable showing it.
Yeah I think there is way more of a psychological component going on over there with masking than most Americans have been privy to or will admit to themselves now. They just want to use them as a wonderful example of how great a forever masking culture can be. No thanks.
To tag on: I read an Asian model has a following for her in demand designer masks. The caveat is to learn to dress the very feminine eyes and focus on expression more than face.
I regret, I do not recall her name. Yet, it’s quite remarkable.
I always say if 1 mask is good, then 2 must be better. 😉😄 I am sick of maskers. I don't care why they wear them anymore. I just smile big and look at them with amusement.
You are correct about poor air quality in many of the world's mega-cities. A mask might provide some protection, since much of harmful air pollution is particulates. You tangentially touch on another factor: Asian nations far more homogeneous than the West, and as such have much stronger shared culture, values and behavior. That doubtlessly extends to mask wearing. For whatever reason, there are proportionally lots more herd followers in the Far East.
Please reread my post. I think you all are assuming things about what I said rather than what I actually said!
From what I have been told by thise who have lived there, they also wear masks in crowded spaces out of caution for viruses. Just CLARIFYING NOT AGREEING.
Asians don't wear masks for these reasons, nor do they do so this regularly, nor do they demand others wear them. Some wear them for the massive pollution on low air quality days, in Japan girls wear them to hide their faces, and sometimes people choose to wear them when they are sick and taking public transportation, for example, as a courtesy to others. It's not demanded by others that people mask up.
I wasnt talking about 'demanding'. I wasnt talking about the judge. I was talking about the many ** hospitals and physicians** offices I have been to here in Florida. It is their decision, not mine.
That was not in my initial post. That was trying to make sense of the medical setting requirements. It is called conversation,( trying to think outside the box, if you will,) with all its thought involved nuances. 😊
Long before COVID, studies showed that masks are useless against the flu virus. We knew this before the pandemic. I'm not "hating on" you. This is simply science.
The problem is, surgical masks were never designed to stop viruses. They are worn in the OR to prevent the surgical personal from contaminating the open wound with large, particulate matter, bodily fluids, etc. By design, they weren't made to stop a virus, so that should not be used for that purpose under any setting, medical or otherwise. The masks are, and always have been, about control and security theater. It's a farce that we still have to wear them in hospitals.
Same as plastic gloves! Infact, I remember how they were first started being used only in restaurant and doctors offices with the onset of AIDS, due to its potential ofcspreading through blood. I found it hideously illogical when people wore them at the beginning of covid.
If anything, unless you are changing them 100x a day, they would spread germs MORE.
this got me to thinking practically...about 'the drip'.....perhaps people still wear them for mostly that large particle droplet prevention, and that more folks actually ARE sick, have colds and whatever, winter nose, and have drippy noses or from many other reasons....my dr of acupuncture friend is still glad to wear the mask due to 'the drip' and so are the grocery employees especially the ones who spend time hovering over the vegetables. I am not advocating it as a solution, but rather trying to understand why folks consent to them and sort of like them...because 'the drip' is an embarrassing human experience and sometimes a sign of ill health/posture as well. Societally we have lost our tolerance for all things that might 'contain germs'. (Party store door handles are of course exempt). About a third of the staff at a large grocery had masks this 2nd week of October. Older shoppers as well, I being one of them who suffers from the drip (I use a hankie, it's a new invention). I happen to have a very serious nose shape and together with my stoopyish posture (i click all the day long after years of a physical job) 'the drip' is something I would like to fix, but with better posture, better health and more looking up at trees. Thanks for talking about 'the drip'; it's ok, sometimes. Gross. But ok. Except maybe now the drip actually does have true baddies in it, nanos and spike gel....so I really don't know what to say, maybe the unvaxxed drip, that has the fewest nanos (from environmental sources incl. breathing the exhalations of the recently or ever vaxxed), we may not really know but I do worry in this direction because it is my job apparently. I am a very proficient worrier indeed. But not masks, hankies instead. Hankies!
I think the masks are false security because people touch them constantly to adjust them and so they are contaminated. If people are sneezing on them or coughing on them or sniffing on them and then touching the masks, then touching something else, I would think that would be a transmission risk more than not wearing one.
I am visiting family in Illinois and went to Saturday Vigil Mass at a rather large church. Maybe it's Illinois' lingering Covid regulations, or maybe it's just that it was a church full of fearful people, but there was such a bizarre display of masking going on. The two greeters were wearing masks. Only one parishioner among the 50 or so present had a mask on. The priest wasn't wearing a mask, until he began to pray over the Eucharist. He put one on at that point, and wore it until the final prayer, when he took it off again briefly. He put it on again to stand by the door and greet the departing parishioners. That was bad enough, but what was worse was the Eucharistic minister who had his mask repeatedly droop below his nose, and kept pulling it up with the same hand he was using to distribute the hosts. Pick up a host, drop it in a parishioner's hand, pull up his mask. Mask slips down as he intones "Body of Christ," so he pulls it up again, over and over. It was the most simultaneously distressing, angering, and darkly amusing experience I have had since this stupid circus began in 2020. I will never visit that parish church again, so help me.
Wow. I have seen similar displays of masking theater in other contexts and I agree with you, it’s at once baffling, infuriating and amusing in a ridiculous sort of way. I am with you though, that display would definitely make me never want to set foot there again. How could one, as a member of the congregation, trust those buffoons to dispense wisdom and good counsel after witnessing their idiocy??
Exactly! This is why I hate getting a server in a restaurant that is wearing a mask- you know they are fiddling with that thing constantly and now they are touching your plates, eating utensils and maybe your food!
Steve Kirsch compiled studies that verify masks PRIOR TO COVID were and are as useless as the jabs in preventing transmission of respiratory pathogens.... Don’t hate on me... I’m just sharing the incomparable indomitable persistent Steve Kirsch’s Herculean commitment to stop the lies and get anyone pushing them to debate his (Steve’s) collection of facts....https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/masks-fail-their-latest-test
It makes even less sense to wear masks in a hospital or physicians office because they know the truth that masks are not effective in preventing a microscopic viral organism and should be following the science. I have 32 years of experience in the healthcare profession so I’ve seen the data but even without the data, it’s not only common sense but also common knowledge by now. If you are sick, stay home.
Unfortunately, the same medical people who insisted on jabs for all their patients are the ones insisting on masking in health care settings. It has not been my experience that physicians and hospital administrators follow anything but the CDC narrative. They certainly don't follow the science.
And that is because Medicaid and Medicare reimbursements are tied to adherence to many of the inept, useless federal agencies such as the FDA, CDC and even the EPA. One of the many ways are healthcare system is broken.
Yes, I learned years ago, when I was doing research about pregnancy and childbirth, that doctors are not scientists and don’t think like scientists by the way they are trained. It takes a long time for new science to trickle down into practice. Like episiotomies being proven not to help but cause harm and even twenty years later, doctors continuing to perform them because that is what their peers were doing and that was what they’d always done.
Yup, i agree, I didn’t have much choice with my firstborn as the nearest birthing center was over an hour and a half away and there were no home birth midwives locally. So I found a great doula and a less interventionist doctor and managed to have a non medicated hospital birth. For my second child, we were in a different city and state so I was able to go to a birthing center and it was such a great choice on so many levels. I wish more people would use midwives snd not be afraid of out of hospital births!
My own intuition is masks would be counterproductive, because they can change breathing patterns. Mask wearing may increase tidal volume - the amount of air inhaled and exhaled in each breath - to compensate for the stale air behind the mask. Deeper breathing would seem to get viral molecules deeper into our respiratory tract and make them more harmful, as we are told that lower respiratory infections are more likely to be harmful than upper respiratory infections.
One observational study out of Europe last spring suggested an increase in C-19 mortality from increased mask wearing. It was statistically significant but not that big: 10-20%. The strength of the study is that it looked at the 2nd COVID wave - a time period chosen because mask wearing policies were already in place before the start of the time period, and not in response to daily/weekly case counts. It is observational data so that is a big limitation.
Megan Mansell wrote a very interesting piece on how it was possible that the virus droplets being forced through the mask material actually might have the effect of making the particles smaller and thus more likely to get deeper into the lungs.
The appropriate "caring for grandma" control here is for the sick person to stay home... self quarantine... when possible. If one can't stay home, one should CHOOSE to avoid harming others WHEN SICK.
The fallacy in your opinion is it has no scientific basis. And a healthy person wearing a mask only helps the mental anxiety of the other. And, sorry, not my responsibility.
BTW, my "opinion" is backed by both scientific studies and the Constitution. What is yours backed by?
And, yes, I understand and respect your plea for calm discussion. But that doesn't mean nobody can disagree with you or ask for facts behind your opinion.
I spent 18 months keeping my factually accurate opinions to myself in face of rude idiots scared out of their wits. Out of respect for grandmas everywhere. That ship has sailed. I'm not allowing even polite bullies to make me do scientifically stupid things. Move to a state where blue science is the norm if you need that, but leave me alone. Please.
Most of us want calm discussion and good faith replies to our comments, I know it annoys me when people twist my words to try and gain some perceived advantage. I have two teenage boys so I completely understand and have plenty of experience with it.
But the mature response to bad faith replies is to call out the commenter and specifically point out the flaws and falsehood in their response. With our resident Ukraine defenders it's like shooting a fish in a barrel, they are so used to dealing with half-wits they have no idea how to respond to logical counter-responses.
What people are reacting to Angela, is your demand that people "don't jump on me" in your initial comment and then immediately throwing that in M VARR's face when he replied respectfully. You don't get to set the rules of the discussion, and declare certain thoughts or questions off-limits. If you think someone is replying dishonestly then reply to them and dissect their comment and tell us why. That's how thoughtful adults debate things.
Most of us are sick and tired of people telling us what we are and aren't allowed to say. That's why you are getting such a visceral reaction Angela, as your comments attempted to limit other's response out of some sort of misplaced politeness. In case you hadn't noticed, that is exactly what got us into the mess of the last few years and is the tactic at the heart of cancel culture (i.e. your opinions may hurt my feelings so you aren't allowed to say them).
Wow! I just didnt want people's emotional outbursts, which I got from *some*. That us what is at the heart of everything bad today: emotionalism. That is what our propaganda media has done to us. That is what this venue of the internet writing has done to us. The art of conversation with its back and forth nuances has died.
I understand that. And it is hard to “hear” tone and easy to misconstrue intent on this kind of platform, which can make discussions touchy sometimes. I appreciate that you are willing to put your thoughts out there and discuss them.
I think the thing is, many in the medical field are the ones using emotions into manipulating people to wear masks. They know people need to see their friends and family or get medical care, so they will comply because they can’t risk not getting access. There is no science supporting mask wearing (especially cloth and surgical masks that are not tested and fitted) for the prevention of respiratory illness. I think some of the reactions you are getting is because the medical community has manipulated people into believing masks do something when they don’t. Thus perpetuating the lie. And your initial statement made it sound like you thought that because medical centers still require masks to be worn, there might be some valid reason for that. There isn’t. At all. And it is exasperating how well the sheep in the medical field have stuck to this totally unscientific protocol and how they’ve been able to convince people that the practice is justified. I think what you’re hearing is a lot of frustration about how well the propaganda campaign has worked and how hard it is to convince people that masks don’t work. I hope that makes sense.
Enabling is not an effective strategy. I am worn out from trying to protect someone’s feeling. This is petty but no one tried to protect my feeling during this debacle, demonic experience. Sound selfish, not going to apologize but I will reflect.
I do recommend looking at mask studies done from before COVID (if they haven't all been retconned at this point) because the findings are fascinating. In essence, they truly don't work in limiting the spread of respiratory viruses. As you noted below, large droplets can be caught by masks, that's true - but they aren't the driving force in the spread of respiratory viruses. Also, fascinating studies done of using masks in surgical theatres with equally unimpressive outcomes. Again, they catch large droplets contaminants, but saw no difference in rate of post-op infections.
As for Asians - they are a masking culture and I don't know if they did it more previously because they felt masking provided a filter for poor air quality or if they were motivated to reduce illness. I really, really don't want to encourage a masking culture AT ALL. It is deeply dehumanizing. There is a reason the CCP can control the Chinese population so easily.
Had dinner with my acupuncture doctorate teacher friend yesterday. The Acupuncture in school is still all masked up, and the Dr. said they are fine with it. I did try to explain about the 'mosquito and tennis racquet' analogy, but they said they are not getting colds like they regularly do so the masks must be helping. Dunno what to say to that, except that IF they DO get a cold, that mask is going to start hurting them in a hurry, and the sad fact that the masks are known to have some bad shizz embedded in them, further enhancing respiratory lung issues, nanos and who knows what else, dioxins....when the medicos (both eastern and western) are this dumb?, what to do....best NAB
I've never worn a mask during this 2 1/2 year joke. Never even had the sniffles. With that, people get sick.....it's okay....it's been going on for years. It's not an automatic death sentence. Peeps need to get a grip on reality. Turn off the damn TV!
Exactly right! Some doctors have actually come out and said that Covid is a lot less dangerous and deadly than the flu, but that is not something that mass media will promote.
For everyone’s information, Mask-wearing is STILL required for nonjabbed employees where my daughter works (RN @ Arizona hospital), which, as you note, is discrimination between jabbed and unjabbed.
Really makes ya wonder about the ability of the hospital decision makers - what other poor decisions are they making? Do they not realize that the jabbed are just as likely as the unjabbed to transmit? I've read these studies for months (long before this week's revelation) and I don't presume to have a medical or scientific background. Disappointing that "the experts" can't figure out this logical, common sense information - backed by science!!
This all was apparent as soon as fully vaxxed people were getting infected with and transmitting Delta, which was known in the summer of 2021. At that point, it should have been a personal medical decision (what it always should have been anyway!). The fact that it wasn't and that they continued with mandates shows that this was not about the science at all but about control.
So they are NOT requiring masks for jabbed employees? That would surprising. I haven't been in a hospital in Arizona, but I have been in many in Texas and they universally require masks for ALL employees. One hospital briefly changed their policy to only require masks in patient care areas, but pretty quickly snapped it back to everybody everywhere.
I was thinking of that when I had to wear a mask and my transmitting coworkers didnt. I thought of that when you weren't allowed into any venue in nyc without a vaccine card, and a mask wasnt even an option.
Where were the discrimination lawsuits?? 🤔
The last two years were a nightmare and in many countries they still are, and even here in some work places because of evil, vaccine coercion.
Those damned satanic vaccines, in my opinion, were the greatest evil ever.
I spent two years of my life not knowing if I could ever travel to see my children, ever go back to the city of my birth, ever be able to keep my job, ever be able to have a conversation with a friend or relative without hearing them brag about their covid vaccine, etc...so masks were not as great a concern for me as the poison shots. My daughter's obstetrician just tried to push the poison on her (and her preborn baby)for a 3rd time in her pregnancy! AT 8 MONTHS! What kind of sick unhinged democrat insanity is this? Are they so ignorant about all the truth which is finally leaking out about them?!
While masks unnerve so many, *justifiably*, the death and sickness injections are still being pushed and that is what personally freaks me out!!
I understand that and many people also have told me the same thing. But, I have to agree with what some have said, that the masks were just the gateway, the first step in coercion and since that worked so well, they moved on to the jabs. In my opinion, if we had all just said no from the very beginning, it would never have gotten as far as it did. Lesson learned though (for me at least). I will never follow any of these kinds of mandates ever again.
I am so sorry for all of the mental anguish you have endured, that all of us nonconformists have endured, these past two and a half years 😢 I hope the tide is turning and those responsible will somehow be made to pay for their crimes.
Correct. Jabbed don’t have to constantly mask; unjabbed do. Firsthand info from my RN daughter. Now, if another employee starts to warn her to pull her mask up from below her chin, she gives them the evil eye, and then they usually back off.
My husband is a doctor in Michigan, and his hospital (which owns his practice) required everyone to wear a mask and unjabbed to wear N-95s. This was based on the CMS vaccine mandate. He started out wearing an N-95, but it was so uncomfortable all day (because they're test-fitted and tight!). Plus, his elderly patients couldn't understand what he was saying. Eventually, he just wore a surgical mask and expected to be reprimanded in some way, but that never happened. Anyway, everyone, including patients, at the hospital or its affiliated medical practices has to wear a mask even now, and most employees think it will never go away.
It’s not even recommended that anyone wear a N-95 all day. It’s too bad more physicians and healthcare professionals didn’t refuse to go along with this unscientific practice from the beginning.
Another potential Problem with Masks: Reduced Viral Interference
If we inhale hundreds of thousands to millions of virions every minutes, and if most of these viruses are benign, and if they interfere/ compete with each other, then reducing overall virus exposure will also reduce exposure to benign but interfering/ competing viruses, thus canceling any benefit.
Perhaps this situation explains why even suffocating N95 Respirators vs surgical masks did not reduce influenza infections in this 2019 randomized controlled trial among medical workers.
Remember what Ford said about color cars? Anybody can chose the color they like as long as it is black. Agree we are entitled to our opinion, but some only look at it as “you are entitled to your opinion AS LONG AS IT IS THE SAME AS MINE”!
It’s one thing to have a mask be optional *in all settings, including medical*, but the mandatory masking at my doctor’s office absolutely infuriates me.
I leave after an appointment with a terrible headache, from breathing my own CO2. And I have accompanied both my parents to chemotherapy on multiple occasions (pre-covid, obviously), with NO ISSUES. This virtue signaling, controlling behavior drives me nuts.
Wearing a mask to prevent the mucus and other large droplets from infecting your coworkers is very considerate.
I really hope I would be brave like Mr Hahn, he’s very inspiring!
It’s all about power. Reminds me of my theater friends who insist on the audience being masked while the actors are mask free. One actually said we perform for your benefit and it’s your duty to keep us safe. Who are you kidding? You’re on stage to feed your ego! Gimme a break, you’re not that precious.
We had the opposite, only unvaxxed were asked to mask (but no one checked status) and the adult actors didn’t wear masks but the child actors did (clear ones) 😞 It was so stupid and unreasonable. And it made it hard to hear the child actors as well.
🙄 I currently perform with a group that is scripturally based, so there’s none of this silliness going on. And it has the added benefit of serving a higher purpose. I have been basically banned from other groups because of my healthcare decisions, because a hobby should not determine my health. But really, I’ve been banned for thinking differently. I feel sorry for those kids. The adults should be ashamed of themselves. All they are doing is teaching kids to fear life.
So... Jeff.... How can a judge... be it “his kingdom” or not disregard the constitutional rights of a U.S. citizen?! Oh...., how Forest Gump of me... our constitutional rights ended on March 11, 2020... Lockdown Day ( arguable waaaaay before).... but just for argument sake, if we still have a constitution hidden in a woke closet somewhere under a pile of dusty musty mildewed law books.... isn’t the Judge sworn to uphold the constitution ... under Section 242 of Title 18 which makes it a crime for a person “acting under color of any law” to willfully deprive a person of a right or privilege protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States."
"For the purpose of Section 242, acts under "color of law include acts not only done by federal, state, or local officials within their lawful authority, but also acts done beyond the bounds of that official's lawful authority, if the acts are done while the official is purporting to or pretending to act in the performance of his/her official duties.
"The offense is punishable by a range of imprisonment up to a life term, or the death penalty, depending upon the circumstances of the crime, and the resulting injury, if any."
Well said, Maureen. I tried to call his office or courthouse to tell him what I thought of his beavior. I had the numbers but most wouldn't take a message. I decided since Tucker Carlson had called him out I didn't need to.
And also, if he is giving orders for medical interventions shouldn’t he at least be a medical practitioner?? Isn’t that akin to practicing medicine without a license?
Excuse me for using your comment to comment on this thread.
Being the last word freak that I am.
This thread reminds me of the child's game where one sentence is whispered into the next person in the circle. By the time it gets back around it has no resemblance to the original.
Regardless of one's faith, or religious beliefs--"Superspreader" is a documentary that people should see for inspiration. Minister and musician-Sean Feucht led the way in challenging the state when the Churches were told they couldn't hold worship services--and "no singing allowed!" His courageous non-compliance spread across the nation, inspiring other Christians and churches to challenge authority. Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uam-xmFz2cc
I have to admit that last year I bowed out of jury duty solely because I didn't want to be stuck there wearing a mask all day. I filled out the acknowledgment form that I was needed to care for my minor child, which is true, but normally I would make arrangements to be able to do jury duty. No thanks, not as long as they are requiring masks.
Ha!... Oh, why not buy the masks and put it on the Judges charge card? A fantastic prank I dare say. Order say, 100,000 masks--charge it to the judges bank debit card...have Amazon ship them to his home address.
I think I just found his home address— Was posted on a Twitter comment about this case.
Charles Winston Gilchrist,
61 Joel Way,
Lillington, NC. 27546
I say let’s post this early on Monday and start a project to fill his mailbox to overflowing with masks and helpful comments like “we understand you were not wearing a mask when you were in court so here you go!”
Good grief, I live a couple of counties over from Harnett County, NC! Unbelievable! There needs to be a lawsuit against this judge. How can his actions be lawful?
Jeff's rare dark humor makes the tyranny we are all living through more bearable. I have no idea how he puts out this brilliant newsletter every day, but I pray he never stops.
Ok, I’ve got something for you: We’re going to create a new reality show with a comedic twist called: Swamp Justice. Jefferey, you are the star of course…a hick lawyer/Private Eye who, at first appearance, is rather a dufus - albeit a curiously diverse one - capable of a host of ineptitudes…..a redneck Columbo, as it were. Now hear me out. In keeping with the distorted national urbanite and media perceptions of what it‘s like to reside in this cootie laden quagmire of death we call Florida we’ve got to really play this up....turn it up to 11. I can already envision the opening scene:
As we fade into the shot we hear your voice, faintly at first, getting slightly louder as the camera pans the inside of your office which, not coincidentally, is in a 10 x 40 ft. trailer situated next to a gator farm where the fencing is suspect at best, which explains why you thought it necessary to rechristen Ringo, you’re now 3 legged Rat Terrier, Peg Leg Pete. Rufus, your 143 lb Capybara, is sporting a black bandana around his neck emboldened with two simple letters......“So." Rufus - being the more streetwise (creekwise?) of the two - is, for now, still scampering about the property with all appendages still intact. You've decided to find his slightly amorous behavior with new visitors charming. (More on that later.)
You’re on the phone with a “big city” lawyer. The camera continues to survey your office and we are able to discern a bit more of the dialogue - a flurry of southern jargon jabs and haymakers: “y'all”....”I plumb reckon”..."fixinto"....“cattywampus”....“that dog won’t hunt”....and ”Son, I don’t care HOW you do it in Maskachusetts.” The "big city" lawyer (like most doctors, has no idea what to make of this).
The shrewdest of the shrewd will notice the eclectic array of background pictures, photographs and pithy sayings that festoon your desk and office walls……Teddy Roosevelt grappling with a Kodiak Bear, JFK, Ronald Reagan, an 8 x 10 autographed glossy of you and Dr. Simone Gold, The Crocodile Hunter - Steve Irwin, an official soccer mom sanctioned Merrick Garland caricature doormat with patented "Never Clean Technology," a dartboard with Bill Gate’s soulless black eyed face sufficiently harpooned with a half dozen vaccine needles, an 11 inch Tony Fauci replica doll being spitefully gnawed on and unceremoniously tossed about by your boisterous and chew happy Beagles, Smitty & Wesson, a 2022 Coffee & Covid "Reset This!" World Tour Poster, a 64 oz.“Give Me Coffee or Give Me Death” mug, a “Tea is For Sissies" wood plaque, a stack of surgical masks marked "kindling," a Walgreens shopping cart which you begrudgingly accepted in lieu of a client payment that you now use as a portable barbeque, to name just a few.
In a nutshell, the ongoing premise is how you, the presumed dufus attorney, along with Veronica - your sassy assistant, and recent escapee from Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan - are able to outthink, outwit, outmaneuver, outplay, and ostensibly run rings around those considered to be much smarter and wiser than.....y'all.
Should I call the folks at Discovery Plus or do YOU want to pitch it? Sho 'Nuff, we can get 'er done lickety split.
I would watch this. In watching Jeff's recent interview, I noticed he had a great way about him, keeping you interested the entire time. Oh, Matlock was one of my favorite tv shows in the 80's. Change Andy to Jeff, move from Atlanta to somewhere in swamp land Florida. But just a female Canadian assistant is not enough. Needs the bumbling sidekick and an old nemesis - maybe one of the judges Jeff has come up against.
Yeah, the ideas are endless. Would have significantly lengthened an already long post. Oh, by the way, I don't see Veronica as "bumbling."....She can hold her own.
So showing the maskless vet who is boss is much more important than making sure the single man's child knows where his/her dad is, why he is not coming home, and ensuring that the child is not worrying and is safe and sound? Why am I surprised when it is always the children that get hurt when decisions are made by the radical left?
“Hold fast to that which is good…” In these times of hellish debauchery, we may have to look a little harder to find the good, but we will if we look up and focus on doing these other things as we rest in His promises:
“We urge you, brethren, admonish the unruly, encourage the fainthearted, help the weak, be patient with everyone. See that no one repays another with evil for evil, but always seek after that which is good for one another and for all people. Rejoice always; pray without ceasing; in everything give thanks; for this is God’s will for you in Christ Jesus. Do not quench the Spirit; do not despise prophetic utterances. But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good; abstain from every form of evil. Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you entirely; and may your spirit and soul and body be preserved complete, without blame at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. Faithful is He who calls you, and He also will bring it to pass.”
My faith in Christ is the only thing that keeps me going through this. That same faith requires me to speak out against injustice and stand up for the vulnerable. Thank you for your encouragement.
But sadly, I have Christian friends who are still totally brainwashed, in fact, one of my biggest disappointments is that my pastors will not speak out on this and I feel as if others want me to be quiet also. Eric Metaxas has written a good book entitled, Letter to the American Church. He says if the church doesn't begin to speak out against the totalitarianism, we are going to look back and find we were complicit in allowing terrible evil. I personally don't intend to be quiet.
Amen to Janice and Anne! To be silent is to be complicit! God has not given us a spirit of fear but of courage! I was an absentee election worker at one of the area nursing homes this past week. The notice on the door to the facility said that masks were required. I ignored it even though my democratic team member complied and not one word was said to me by the staff. None of the patients were wearing masks. The sad thing is that over half of the area facilities require the shot to enter. I am no longer helping with those facilities.
I see the connection between FBI and Epstein as an informant... Epstein gave the FBI information on who to blackmail so those folks would do the bidding of the puppet masters. And now we understand some of the odd decisions and direction policy makers have made in the past that made us scratch our heads - other than just being 100% mentally deranged.
The 3 Letters protected, aided and abetted Epstein and Maxwell (and her father) to obtain blackmail on everyone. The number and names of people are very extensive.
No one can/will speak out, for fear they will be “suicided” too. It must be like a secret fear club. And so the child trafficking/sexual abuse continues.
Epstein was clearly working for Mossad as well, but then again FBI might as well stand for “Federal Bureau of Israel”. There are many forms of treason, but working for Israel is the chosen form.
I’m shocked that not ONE other juror stood up to this tyrannical judge. This is perhaps the most shocking thing about the past few years. Brainless sheeple. Shocking. Can we multiply whoever goes up against this horrible judge
Exactly. Imagine if every potential juror would have refused the mask. THAT is the only way to stop this evilness. Not one outlier out of many. Otherwise, it’ll never stop.
None of this is about wisdom. It's basically elite cartels fighting for control over us, like mafia families in NYC. The government agencies are enforcement arms that sometimes change leadership...
It's not about wisdom or consent. It's about ruining a vulnerable person's life as quickly and early as possible. If they can get a teen to consent to an irreversible procedure, disfiguring and painful surgery and permanent infertility, then they will be messed up for life and more likely to kill themselves or at least spread their confusion to others. The devil seeks the destruction of anybody he can get his hands on.
The more I think about the transgender movement, the more I lean towards the idea that this movement is about sterilization and population control. All these poor transgender souls will never know the indescribable joy of bringing life into this world and caring for your child. And on top of this, when they will realize how they were used as children to commit atrocities against themselves, it will make their lives and view of adults even more unbearable.
Another reason to not trust doctors anymore. While the nurse will always ask what medications you take, when your physician prescribes something else for you, he/she will never consider the possible drug interactions.
Because doctors are mostly drug pushers today ( with some other possible redeeming qualities of humanity here and there), it is up to the patient to research or ask their druggist about interactions.
It is all so complicated, and so many patients dont know that they should do this, and then it is too late.
This drug interaction has been well known from the beginning. My husband is a doctor and never prescribed Paxlovid (unless the patient insisted, which some did) because of the manifold drug interactions and also the COVID rebound. It is particularly bad for the vaccinated, on which it was not tested--it was tested only on the unvaccinated, if I remember correctly.
No, you're right. Most of his colleagues dispensed Paxlovid to almost everyone. Interestingly, he had a new PA working under his observation, and the PA told him that he'd stopped prescribing Paxlovid to his patients because they were all getting rebound COVID! Smart guy!
Especially when they are prescribing untested mystery meds. "Just take this and we'll see what happens...." Oh well, the FDA said it's okay, so there's that.
The drug interactions are well communicated to doctors. Doctors may be all about pushing the pharma products they are told to, but they are not all about being sued and disregarding drug interactions is a good way to get sued.
You might think a safer approach would be to use Ivermectin, which has no drug interactions and has been shown to be quite effective as an early covid treatment. But NOOOO, that would be silly. Better to give the one Dr. Fauci says to and temporarily stop all the other medications old and infirm patients are taking to keep them alive, and make sure not to restart them too early because of the covid rebound and second Paxlovid course they will need.
Quote for the day; “Poor Charlie! Life can be SO unfair sometimes. I blame climate change. Please keep Hurricane Ian victim Charlie Crist in your thoughts today, while you’re doing your bathroom business.” Thanks for the laugh. :)
The trans agenda people are demonic… they’re actively going after minors.
It’s absolutely predatory!!!
A large percent of these kids will desist… if society and American Culture- teachers and doctors- would stop shoving it down their throats trying to encourage and normalize it all!
I recently saw this picture- it said
-don’t be your child’s first bully-
And it was a set of parents standing behind a young child with rainbow pride wings
And the parents were holding scissors clipping the child’s rainbow colored wings 🤨
As you dissect culturally
How we arrived at this deranged moment… where cutting off the genitals of children is the thing parents are supposed to do to save their child from certain suicide…
I believe the framework for this was laid during the ‘anti bullying campaigns’ started in schools
On the surface
Sure anti bullying sounded good- like a good thing
BUT- what’s actually happening
Is it’s created a school culture where ‘anything goes’ and you aren’t allowed to say anything about anything or anyone…
if you’re a boy and you wanna show up to school in long fake nails, long fake eyelashes, glam eye makeup, a tube top, a mini skirt, and a long black wig…
No one is gonna say a word to you at school - not the kids and not the administration- because that would be bullying!
And so these confused kids- who have been swept up in this ‘gender revolution’- (and many are special needs children I might add- who have extreme difficulty with social connectedness and knowing what’s appropriate and what’s not socially) who are making these social missteps are never called to task to self correct- they are only EMBOLDENED and reinforced at schools!
My husband and I, although 71 and 70 years of age, have begun helping teach students at our church because we are burdened by these forces of evil that are coming after our children. One of my girls, a tenth grader, told me that there are boys walking around her public school wearing "tails." They're furries, or pretending to be. I can't believe we've reached the point where this nonsense is allowed.
Wearing tails is the sort of thing kids do when they are 3 or 4, but even then wise parents chuckle at the PRETEND play of their children. Even older children who dress up as an animal for Halloween or a school event have ALWAYS *known* that they were simply wearing a COSTUME and that underneath they were still a boy or a girl HUMAN.
Accommodating these kids coddles them, to say the least. Grow up and become an adult HUMAN. For crying out loud.
I don’t even know where to begin saying how absurd, harmful, childish, foolish, and downright wrong it is for adults to be tolerating this for even one tiny nanosecond.
And those people you speak of want to keep their heads buried in the sand..like they have through the decades about the snowballing debasing and perversion of the culture...how college dorms have been like bordellos (male and female) and drunken bars for decades, how schools have been promoting lgbtq with clubs since the 90s, how series on netflix show soft porn, men kisding men and more, women with women, trans people scarred by their parents not celebrating it, etc. Instagram practically nude posing, and Kardashian values (her mom made them famous by deliberately leaking Kims sex tape), and so much else
THIS is reality. This is what the gvt promotes in exchange for subsidies, this is everywhere. Even our church youth have to deal with this, and despite the influence of church groups and faith filled parents, the demonic culture is quite strong in its influence. It is pervasive. Never underestimate it.
Lord have mercy on our country and the collective west.
I can't help but think that perhaps the "love of the creatures more than the love of the Creator" has helped create this incredible spiral into the abyss. Do children find their parents more loving to their pets than their own children that they snuggle and take everywhere with them while sending offspring of to school to be hated, bullied, and exploited? I see their fb posts. It offends me, a stranger!
Or a boy can show up in your girls’ locker room identifying as a girl but sitting there looking like a boy and leering at the girls in various stages of undress. Then when the girls complain, THEY get accused of “hate” and bullying 🙄🙄🙄😡😡😡
Yes, that exact story is what I was referring to, even though I didn’t mention it specifically (too lazy to go find the link to the article where I had read about it). Thank you for the link!
An interesting comment re the bullying. You probably have a really good point.
Nobody can say anything that “offends” anybody else. Well, unless you are a cross-dressing giant-boob-wearing student or teacher… then, it matters not that YOUR appearance and demeanor offend half of the student body. Or if your daughter’s teacher suggests that because she likes to wear short hair and ride mountain bikes or hike and fish and camp that maybe she is really a boy, and your daughter takes offense. Well, THAT kind of bullying is now okay, I guess.
How can a child brought up with Christian values and concept of sin even survive in a public school. What will happen if said child says 'mommy says that our religion doesnt accept homosexual marriage'. They will probably be harshly reprimanded.
It’s really hard to comprehend why Christian families keep their KIDS in these unfortunate cesspools.
A neighbor was considering homeschooling because of it. But this year her school building has new leadership and things are better. (She works in the school building so undoubtedly knows better than many.). But, what about next year? Or the year after that? And what about when the kids are in middle school?
It’s a heckuva lot easier to ease into homeschooling in elementary school than in middle or high school.
Our family has been SO THANKFUL for our freedom to homeschool. It is a blessing. In many ways. I cannot recommend it enough.
TED refused to air an erudite and informational talk about homeopathy in Africa by a woman who is successfully working with AIDS patients (successfully, as in people go from bedridden and wasting to working and feeding their families), but this gets the green light. Okay, then,
TED was always squarely mainstream, and has been pushing the climate malarkey and other WEF-associated agendas forever. Sometimes a good talk that fits inside the approved boundaries gets out, like ones by Brené Brown or Vanessa Van Edwards, but overall it’s just a slightly less smug version of NPR.
Big props to the juror who is about Science over Compliance regarding covid masks.
But how about the other jurors... I guess they just muzzled up? Come on peeps, we gotta fight this crap!
Steve Kirsch compiled studies that verify masks PRIOR TO COVID were and are as useless as the jabs in preventing transmission of respiratory pathogens.... Don’t hate on me... I’m just sharing the incomparable indomitable persistent Steve Kirsch’s Herculean commitment to stop the lies and get anyone pushing them to debate his (Steve’s) collection of facts....https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/masks-fail-their-latest-test
It seems to me that the judge was more about control. Also it figures that he was a hate filled democrat and that this was a political reaction. Not allowing the man to call his children, and putting him in jail instead of dismissing him was beyond logical.
In Florida here: all hospitals and doctor offices still want it, and I dont personally mind in *those settings*. Whatever. 🤷The Asians have been doing it forever. Maybe viruses and flu can be controlled a bit this way? If it can help that in *MEDICAL* settings where people are already sick or immuno-compromised then so be it.
I *DID* mind when it was required/COMPULSARY by workplaces to discriminate between vaccinated and non vaccinated.
I DID mind when like the judge, it is a political statement!!
For me, vaccines are a worse story.. For me, that was pure draconian evil.
Dont jump on me. We are all entitled to our opinion.
Viruses and flu can be controlled a bit this way.
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If you have a link to a scientific peer reviewed double blind study that lends credence to your assertion, please share it. Thanks.
https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-6817
That is since covid. Google with time restriction pre 2019 and the world of study on the futility of community masking is your oyster! While there, do a little search for the physical and mental health problems with masking. You will be shocked I think. Maybe you would (for our edification) include a link to a scientific peer reviewed double blind study that lends credence to masking being a social and health benefit. I am willing to read it.
Masks we have been forced to wear are meant to keep spittle out of the patient's bodies during operations. What they are used for now is a crutch for the mentally ill. Wake up M Varr.
I managed -- somehow -- to commute on stuffed subway cars during the winter, up close and personal with sneezers, coughers, nose blowers -- and when I tell you I cannot remember the last cold or flu I've had, I mean it. I can also tell you that virtually every co-worker in my small department lined up for the "flu" shots -- and who was the one who was never sick with the flu?
Can someone please explain this to me??
Masks. Yeah. Right.
Same
😊 New York City and Boston subways. For years.
I dont.
I said 'dont jump on me' for my opinion. It is from observation for *medical settings*.
I didnt make the rules. They do.
However, I had a cold recently at work. There was no way I could control sneezing or blowing my nose. I felt terrible because I knew that without a mask (I wasnt wearing one) one of my coworkers would catch it. Two did.
When we were wearing masks back in 2020, again I had a cold. No one caught it. Just observation. Perhaps that is why *medical settings* in Florida, a FREE RED STATE still require it? We are all entitled to our opinions with respect, or we become no better or less hateful than that *demoncrat* politically motivated judge.
Angela, this is only my observation but during my professional life I was required to be “fit-tested” for an N-95 mask yearly because I was told that “masks cannot stop viruses, not even minimally”. This was drilled into my head. Imagine my surprise when all this was suddenly and forcefully reversed! No supporting studies, no data, just mr. fauci asserting the necessity. And 25 years of OSHA studies scrubbed from their .gov website. It was then when the lightbulb got switched on for me personally. It wasn’t about infection. At all. The only concern I have for your viewpoint is that it encourages the continuing influence of fear among people. Fear of human contact, free interaction. Fear that unintentionally and perhaps unconsciously becomes magnified so that the presence or absence of a mask determines one’s social behavior. It has had such a negative impact on our children, and our society in general that it really ought to be avoided. It is part of the healing that we must do.
Credenda - glad you noticed all the hypocrisy too! Especially with OSHA, like seriously…double, nay, triple facepalm on that one. When I worked in nursing, every year we had to take an infection control and procedures test. Same test, year after year. Every year it would ask us what the top tier of universal precautions was and every year it was the same…hand washing! Nothing on that test about masking procedures because in my area, family practice, they never applied to us despite us being the ones who were seeing all the patients with strep, influenza, colds, etc. How many hundreds and hundreds of people have I swapped throats for strep and flu over 12 years and never was a mask worn. I worked through the entire H1N1 pandemic, immunocompromised to boot, and we never wore a mask. None of the doctors gave two craps either that I was immunocompromised, wasn’t even mentioned or a thought in their heads. The whole pandemic was just business as usual. In 12 years I got sick with Fifth’s Disease once, which my nephew gave me outside clinic, and strep and influenza each once which I could have gotten from a patient but, could very well have also gotten from one of my nephews or nieces too. At work, I washed my hands a hundred times a day, it’s just what we did, not masking. People now have it in their heads that we should mask forever for cold and flu seasons as if all this new information suddenly was brought to light because of COVID and now that we know better we can do the correct thing. Yeah no, we had all the information but then these government agencies needed something to appear to the public like they were “doing something” and the masking was such an easy thing to have propagandized. They literally got an entire country to fear the unmasked face. I still know people who won’t stop masking outside. They literally live, in October 2022, where like 99% of people are not masking anymore yet they still believe their mask is having a meaningful difference to “protect others”. That’s the problem with the healthcare facilities. I’m spending 100% of my time without a mask on my face. I go to grocery stores, my sisters home, the local fair, restaurants, I don’t even wear one during my Remicade infusions because I managed to get exemption for that one place, yet somehow the 30 minutes I wear one to my neurology follow up is supposed to save me somehow? Please.
Funniest thing is seeing photos of celebrities in NYC wearing masks outdoors!
Chuckle for the day:
Sign on a workman's truck I saw here in Florida:
If you are wearing a 😷 mask alone in your car, you dont need a Biden bumper sticker. I already know that you voted for him!
Yes yes yes a thousand times yes to your posts Credenda and Julia C!!! The actual science and data never justified any of this and yet people have been convinced that it might help so we should still do it. No and no. But it is an uphill battle to undo the damage from the constant propaganda over the past two years 😕
Julia C- Amen to everything you said! I find it crazy that something that would have been seen as abnormal prior to 2020, is now widely accepted everywhere, and still FORCED on us by some "heath care" professionals and offices. If some folks out there still feel reassured by the masks, OK fine, let them wear it, but leave the rest of us alone.
The government agency weren’t seeking to appear to be “doing something”. Masking was 1) establish authority where none existed before and 2) to gauge compliance
I hear you and I believe you.
My post was completely misconstrued by most. I have been to the hospital many more times than I would like lately 2020 - 2022 due to mom with cancer, husband who had brain surgery, etc.
I am in the beautiful free state of Florida.
All the *medical settings* still require it.
Right or wrong, what can I do? Make a scene? I politely comply.
You can tell them that you find their participation in a lie deeply disturbing. Their participation in this lie also casts some serious doubt on their medical proficiency, professionalism, and integrity.
I recently had an episode (over the bars on my mountain bike) where I had to go find an emergency room or urgent to check out the extent of the damage. I was out of town at the time in another state. I found both a hospital emergency room and urgent care. At both, I told them that I would not wear a mask. Both venues told me they would not see me. At the urgent care, I videotaped the Dr telling me he would not look at my injury unless I put a mask on. A Dr that came out from behind a partition putting on a mask as he approached me. So, nobody was wearing them anyway until I asked to be seen.
I thought about it for awhile and returned to the hospital emergency room. I told the receptionist that I needed to be seen to ascertain my injuries and, under duress, would wear the mask. But, I asked her for a pen and paper, and the name of the attending physician or nurses assistant. I wrote on the paper that I was being forced against my will to put on a mask to receive emergency medical evaluation and the the attending physician was the one enforcing this measure. I asked her to have him sign it. She passed it into another cubicle and, after a moment, the AP stuck his head out and declared “I’m not signing this!” “Why’, I asked, “is any part of it not true?” He let out a disgusted sigh and told me to wait out in waiting room and he’d check me out in a minute.
Turns out nothing life threatening and I got out of there without donning a mask.
Ya gotta stand up against this at every turn.
I sympathize with you because I was in a similar situation last winter and complied because they had the power to stop me from seeing my dying mom and I couldn’t do anything about it 😞 So I get that, I really do.
The part that concerns me about your post is more that you seemed to be saying, unless I misunderstood, that because these medical settings were requiring the masks, maybe that meant they had some effect even if it might be limited. That is nonsense and not supported by any science over the past decades. Masks can actually increase transmission and cause other undesirable effects so even if there were any benefits on one side, they would be negated by the adverse effects. But there are no benefits especially against an aerosolized respiratory virus.
I hear what you’re saying, and that you’re trying to be considerate of your coworkers, but what about all our lives, before all this Covid19 crap, when we all got colds, all the time, and of course sometimes passed them along to each other? You never wore a mask back then. Think about why you now believe you should wear a mask whenever you have a cold. In other words, consider the possibility that the propaganda is still working on you.
I said that I dont mind complying when I am in a **hospital setting*You misconstrued my post..
I DID not say that I wore one when I had a cold recently.
I simply made an anecdotal observation. THAT is all. I have had a husband in hospital with brain surgery, an 87 year old mom with cancer, so I have been to many medical settings lately, unfortunately. AND I am in Florida.
That is all?! No, that was not all you said. I was addressing your work situation that you described, not your medical setting comments.
As long as it is left to the individual to decide, I think it’s fine. The problem becomes when masks are mandated or expected for all to wear.
Absolutely! I agree.
That is the point at which I would have stayed home (uncontrolled sneezing, nose-blowing.) Very helpful in not transmitting.
That's the old school way of dealing with infectious colds.
I totally agree! Out of work for 4 days was not given to me as an option by my boss, unfortunately. I also qualified that to my coworkers!
"I said 'don't hate on me' for my opinion." Where did M VARR in any way indicate even the slightest indication of anything ever remotely suggesting hate? He very politely asked you a reasonable question as you were making a claim about science and health.
You stated an opinion and received a request to share any scientific evidence you had to back it up, and you immediately suggest that question is "hateful", sounding a lot like all the propaganda reinforcing censorship, to me.
I also don't hate you for sure--I don't even know you--but I do find that comment with its implied and completely unjustified accusation--manipulative and dishonest, and thus very annoying.
I meant , dont jump on me. Thank you for your post.
Asking a reasonable question isn't jumping on you. Stop playing the victim in order to avoid backing up your claims.
Definitely the wrong place to be hoping not to get jumped on for saying mildly positive things about masks!
C&C is populated by hard core mask haters. I'd include myself in that category, but I too find myself reluctantly wearing masks in some healthcare settings. You have the choice of masking up or making a big scene and probably being asked to leave, which doesn't help much when you're trying to get some business done or visiting someone. I generally just put my stupid mask on below my nose and these days that is adequate to project minimal compliance.
More importantly, if you can, avoid the msm medical community and doctors. I refused a dental check up because they still insist on the mask. I said no thanks. They were surprised.
I can relate…my Dentist was completely overboard on the mask/sanitizing thing…so I had to change Dentists! Harder to change Dr because I otherwise really like my Dr. She says we only have to wear masks in waiting room, take off in exam room….unfortunately they can get fined by the State (CA)
Yes I do that too. Even though even the CDC doesn’t recommend them anymore, seems like Medical facilities continue this uncalled for practice. I have a mask made out of netting (you can’t tell it’s virtually breath thru). And I wear that one below my nose.
Yes, before I, thank the Lord, found a PC physician and common sense dentist who had no mask mandate, I always wore the ‘fake mask.’They are easy to obtain. Why would you wear one that restricts your breathing?
Paula- I have one of those types of masks for "emergency use only" like certain medical offices. It was the best thing I ever bought in 2020- conventional masks give me panic attacks and gag me.
I wanted to get one of those fake masks, but never got around to it!
As I work in healthcare and intermittently have to don a mask, I have special N95's I've modified that fit very loosely and have holes punched in strategic locations. Probably not as breathable as netting, but they are tolerable for short periods.
I'd argue that if your presence is voluntary, then you should abide by the rules of the host. Anything else, frankly, marks you as an asshole.
Thank you. 😊
I read the previous comment and I read it as respectful. I understand your sense if being “jumped on” but I am a bit baffled.
Apparently adding "don't jump on me" to a comment means that no one else is allowed to challenge it.
No. It means read carefully, and dont misconstrue my comment's intention out of base emotionalism.
It seems to me you would have to remove the mask to “blow your nose”…what makes more sense is to stay home and/or WASH YOUR HANDS after blowing your nose to prevent spreading. As far as sneezing, you could sneeze into a Kleenex or handkerchief which would do much to prevent spreading. I do this consistently for allergies.
Oh Paula I have to share a kind of funny and gross story. I was using a mask when it was 'required' (in a freakin grocery store) and started to feel the need to sneeze. What was my immediate response? Take off the dang mask!!! In a milli-second I laugh-sneezed and kept my mask on. HOW GROSS IS THAT!?! I thought OMG this is why we wear these, and it's disgusting and NOW WHAT DO I DO?! Luckily in those few moments I wore a mask, I kept extras in my purse. And I always have tissue. And hand sanitizer then.
That is the response for most people …to take off the mask to sneeze 🤧
Your response is unnecessarily rude. I am not four years old. I know all that and practice it. Unfortunately however, as for staying home, unless you lie and say you have covid, the boss says you must still come in.
Gosh I hope you don't think I sounded rude above. I didn't think Paula did. Just sayin.... Hang in there, we're trying to look at this with you.
I get it. But most people do not wash their hands after blowing their noses. Did you test for Covid? When I had it it was virtually a cold!
A lot of medical settings in Florida don’t require it & there’s nary a mask to be seen in them.
Not my experience in South Florida at all.
"South Florida" explains that.
Ooo, I'm jealous. Must be so nice!
😊😊
I have a feeling it may be less about the mask, and more about not wiping with fingers or hand parts that spread it? Just wondering aloud. Are you still using hand sanitizer? I have a friend who works on the floor at a Costco and said that with the masking he didn't get sick like usual either. I forgot to ask him about hand sanitizing. But I think it's much more about HANDS than masks. I'm curious if anyone will be able to back this up.
I have a hand sanitizer right next to me at work. Use it all the time, but you are right that hands play a crucial rule in not transmitting viruses.
I remember when my children were young, I was getting sick all the time. One day at the pediatrician office, my child was sick and so was I. He told me about being meticulous about hand washing and how it would help, especially after a supermarket run! (all those hands of children and adults touching the same cart ).
He was right! After heeding his advice, I rarely got sick again.
I agree about the hand washing. I learned abut that from my mother and have always been careful about it when out in public. And I almost never got sick. Lately I've noticed that all the hand sanitizers and wipes for shopping carts etc. have disappeared in most places. Hopefully people picked up better hand washing habits throughout all this, though.
I think the CDC still has masks in place for medical facilities, and the state of emergency has not been lifted. Nobody is going to go after the FL facilities that don't comply.
The CDC does not any longer, but some states (blue) do.
facilities that have to comply with Medicare rules still mask up; CDC does not control CMS
Angela, you didn’t “had a cold lately”, you caught a cold………through some form of transmission. Aerosol-borne likely, or did you “catch” it from someone else who was or wasn’t wearing a mask? In the end, do you believe masks actually “stop” transmission or are they used more for virtue-signaling? No judgement here, just an ask for your thoughts. Thanks for putting it out there.
It’s pretty simple, if you have a cold or other transmissible illness, STAY HOME.
Sounds good in principle. Alas the real world is more complex. How about the case of the jailed juror? Did you know that (at least in Florida) if one is summoned for jury duty and fails to appear, one can be hauled off to jail (although, I think that is rare?) In many jobs one only has limited (or no) sick days, and faces firing for failure to appear. Now, it's true that for most such demands a person doesn't risk jail, but there are an endless number of legitimate reasons a sick person might need to leave his home. And finally, there is the dismaying fact that humans are stubborn. Even if they know they are contagious or somehow otherwise pose a risk, a lot of people are bullheaded and will still go out in public.
Sadly, most people demanding a peer reviewed, double blind studies are the same ones falling for the plandemic scare tactics and rolling up their sleeves. Don’t be one of them.
1. Annals of Internal Medicine: "Therefore, evidence for mask use versus nonuse and comparing masks types in health care settings remained insufficient" https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/L20-1292
2. Annals of Internal Medicine: "The recommendation to wear surgical masks to supplement other public health measures did not reduce the SARS-CoV-2 infection rate among wearers by more than 50% in a community with modest infection rates" https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-6817
3. `Cochrane Library: "There is moderate certainty evidence that wearing a mask probably makes little or no difference to the outcome of laboratory‐confirmed influenza compared to not wearing a mask" https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD006207.pub5/full
4. "In intention-to-treat analysis, facemask use was neither effective against laboratory-confirmed vRTIs, nor against CRI, not even in per-protocol analysis." https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3349234
5. "However, overall there is a lack of substantial evidence to support claims that facemasks protect either patient or surgeon from infectious contamination." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4480558/
6. "No evidence was identified that examined a potential role for surgical face masks in protecting staff from infectious material encountered in the operating room." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK195765/
7. Southern Medical Journal: "There was no reduction in per-population daily mortality, hospital bed, ICU bed, or ventilator occupancy of COVID-19-positive patients attributable to the implementation of a mask-wearing mandate." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8395971/
8. Covid advisor ""What we're worried about is people getting exposed and getting infected while thinking they were actually doing something to protect themselves," https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/11/confronting-notion-face-masks-reduce-covid-dose
9. "Making pre-school children wear masks is bad public health" https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666535221001221#
10. "the difficulties associated with the mask’s use are significantly pronounced in children aged between 3 and 5 years old." https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34591895/
11. "Use of face masks is not recommended in schools in Norway." https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2020.26.1.2002011
12. "The main insight of the present research is that face masks’ use influences emotion inference from faces for all ages and especially for toddlers." https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.669432/full
OK with you, Gaye, if I take your fantastic comment and turn it into a PDF for distribution/use?
If you click on the timestamp next to her name, it opens the comment in a new window. Right click anywhere on screen, select 'Print'. In the dropdown, select 'save as PDF' & you can save it as a pdf yourself.
Who knew? :) I copied and pasted it earlier into Word and then saved as a PDF, but this is great information. Thank you very much!
Sure but I got it from Justin Hart. He’d be glad for it to be distributed but may want to attribute it to him. He has a new book that should be really great. https://twitter.com/justin_hart/status/1581474706942660609?s=20&t=oIao7MrwQKCUQCk_QP1hyg
Excellent. Glad I asked. I do not tweet, so unable to access, but I can certainly make the attribution on the document.
Your eyes are a mucus membrane. Just sayin’. 🤷♀️
Angela's sentence was not an "assertion," it was a question. Note question mark at end of sentence.
https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD006207.pub5/full
Not going to hate on you at all, however, your assertion is without merit. Our Asian brethren, have been socially conditioned for eons. If I'm not mistaken, I believe a great many of them wear masks because of living in highly industrialized areas. The air quality is crap. There are probably several non-medical reasons that some opt for face diapers. Just as a side note, the "go-along's-to-get-along's" exacerbate the situation.
Eric - I have read articles and watched many a documentary which also explained that as well as the pollution aspect, there is a huge proportion of people, especially young adults, who like wearing masks as an “accessory” of sorts to hide their faces when they don’t “feel they look their best” or don’t want to put the effort in to get ready or wear makeup, and also many wear them in an effort to hide their faces from the constant CCTV surveillance. Can’t have social credit deducted if it can’t recognize your face. Americans see a mask in Asia and immediately assume it’s just being used for a “medical” purpose and that is definitely not the case.
Interesting. 👍
I love thoughtful conversation. It helps us learn more when we actually listen to each other without emotionalism or unnecessary rudeness. ❤️
Indeed. I definitely found the surveillance aspect of Asian masking quite interesting, especially when you understand that any deemed “infraction” not only can affects your credit score, but can affect your families scores as well. I would think they are highly in tune and sensitive to this.
Julia- that was very interesting information- I always wondered about why they do it there.
Yeah the interesting aspect was with the younger generations saying things like, “I like that I don’t have to show my teeth”, or “I wear one when I don’t want to put on makeup”, or even women saying that it stopped men from catcalling them on the street and no one would annoyingly tell them to “smile” during conversations. This particular article was written by someone who grew up in Asia and was telling you that the masking culture there is very much highly psychological, ingrained in nature and not all medical/pollution. The scary part was once our citizens had been wearing them for so long and the propaganda was set in, you then literally started hearing the EXACT same rhetoric coming out of our teens and people over here in America about how they enjoy them for hiding their faces and emotions from other people. Very dangerous.
Agree Julia C and Eric. I even read an analysis about how masks had started to make people in Japan consider the face a private part of the body and feel uncomfortable showing it.
https://www.getrevue.co/profile/markchangizi/issues/japan-masks-and-private-parts-632267
Yeah I think there is way more of a psychological component going on over there with masking than most Americans have been privy to or will admit to themselves now. They just want to use them as a wonderful example of how great a forever masking culture can be. No thanks.
To tag on: I read an Asian model has a following for her in demand designer masks. The caveat is to learn to dress the very feminine eyes and focus on expression more than face.
I regret, I do not recall her name. Yet, it’s quite remarkable.
I always say if 1 mask is good, then 2 must be better. 😉😄 I am sick of maskers. I don't care why they wear them anymore. I just smile big and look at them with amusement.
You are correct about poor air quality in many of the world's mega-cities. A mask might provide some protection, since much of harmful air pollution is particulates. You tangentially touch on another factor: Asian nations far more homogeneous than the West, and as such have much stronger shared culture, values and behavior. That doubtlessly extends to mask wearing. For whatever reason, there are proportionally lots more herd followers in the Far East.
Please reread my post. I think you all are assuming things about what I said rather than what I actually said!
From what I have been told by thise who have lived there, they also wear masks in crowded spaces out of caution for viruses. Just CLARIFYING NOT AGREEING.
Asians don't wear masks for these reasons, nor do they do so this regularly, nor do they demand others wear them. Some wear them for the massive pollution on low air quality days, in Japan girls wear them to hide their faces, and sometimes people choose to wear them when they are sick and taking public transportation, for example, as a courtesy to others. It's not demanded by others that people mask up.
I wasnt talking about 'demanding'. I wasnt talking about the judge. I was talking about the many ** hospitals and physicians** offices I have been to here in Florida. It is their decision, not mine.
You ALSO brought up having a cold while doing to work. You DIDN’T just discuss medical settings.
That was not in my initial post. That was trying to make sense of the medical setting requirements. It is called conversation,( trying to think outside the box, if you will,) with all its thought involved nuances. 😊
Shands at Univ. of Florida is one of the biggest hospitals in Florida. Masks no longer required there.
Long before COVID, studies showed that masks are useless against the flu virus. We knew this before the pandemic. I'm not "hating on" you. This is simply science.
The problem is, surgical masks were never designed to stop viruses. They are worn in the OR to prevent the surgical personal from contaminating the open wound with large, particulate matter, bodily fluids, etc. By design, they weren't made to stop a virus, so that should not be used for that purpose under any setting, medical or otherwise. The masks are, and always have been, about control and security theater. It's a farce that we still have to wear them in hospitals.
Same as plastic gloves! Infact, I remember how they were first started being used only in restaurant and doctors offices with the onset of AIDS, due to its potential ofcspreading through blood. I found it hideously illogical when people wore them at the beginning of covid.
If anything, unless you are changing them 100x a day, they would spread germs MORE.
this got me to thinking practically...about 'the drip'.....perhaps people still wear them for mostly that large particle droplet prevention, and that more folks actually ARE sick, have colds and whatever, winter nose, and have drippy noses or from many other reasons....my dr of acupuncture friend is still glad to wear the mask due to 'the drip' and so are the grocery employees especially the ones who spend time hovering over the vegetables. I am not advocating it as a solution, but rather trying to understand why folks consent to them and sort of like them...because 'the drip' is an embarrassing human experience and sometimes a sign of ill health/posture as well. Societally we have lost our tolerance for all things that might 'contain germs'. (Party store door handles are of course exempt). About a third of the staff at a large grocery had masks this 2nd week of October. Older shoppers as well, I being one of them who suffers from the drip (I use a hankie, it's a new invention). I happen to have a very serious nose shape and together with my stoopyish posture (i click all the day long after years of a physical job) 'the drip' is something I would like to fix, but with better posture, better health and more looking up at trees. Thanks for talking about 'the drip'; it's ok, sometimes. Gross. But ok. Except maybe now the drip actually does have true baddies in it, nanos and spike gel....so I really don't know what to say, maybe the unvaxxed drip, that has the fewest nanos (from environmental sources incl. breathing the exhalations of the recently or ever vaxxed), we may not really know but I do worry in this direction because it is my job apparently. I am a very proficient worrier indeed. But not masks, hankies instead. Hankies!
I think the masks are false security because people touch them constantly to adjust them and so they are contaminated. If people are sneezing on them or coughing on them or sniffing on them and then touching the masks, then touching something else, I would think that would be a transmission risk more than not wearing one.
I am visiting family in Illinois and went to Saturday Vigil Mass at a rather large church. Maybe it's Illinois' lingering Covid regulations, or maybe it's just that it was a church full of fearful people, but there was such a bizarre display of masking going on. The two greeters were wearing masks. Only one parishioner among the 50 or so present had a mask on. The priest wasn't wearing a mask, until he began to pray over the Eucharist. He put one on at that point, and wore it until the final prayer, when he took it off again briefly. He put it on again to stand by the door and greet the departing parishioners. That was bad enough, but what was worse was the Eucharistic minister who had his mask repeatedly droop below his nose, and kept pulling it up with the same hand he was using to distribute the hosts. Pick up a host, drop it in a parishioner's hand, pull up his mask. Mask slips down as he intones "Body of Christ," so he pulls it up again, over and over. It was the most simultaneously distressing, angering, and darkly amusing experience I have had since this stupid circus began in 2020. I will never visit that parish church again, so help me.
Wow. I have seen similar displays of masking theater in other contexts and I agree with you, it’s at once baffling, infuriating and amusing in a ridiculous sort of way. I am with you though, that display would definitely make me never want to set foot there again. How could one, as a member of the congregation, trust those buffoons to dispense wisdom and good counsel after witnessing their idiocy??
Exactly! This is why I hate getting a server in a restaurant that is wearing a mask- you know they are fiddling with that thing constantly and now they are touching your plates, eating utensils and maybe your food!
Yes!!
Steve Kirsch compiled studies that verify masks PRIOR TO COVID were and are as useless as the jabs in preventing transmission of respiratory pathogens.... Don’t hate on me... I’m just sharing the incomparable indomitable persistent Steve Kirsch’s Herculean commitment to stop the lies and get anyone pushing them to debate his (Steve’s) collection of facts....https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/masks-fail-their-latest-test
It makes even less sense to wear masks in a hospital or physicians office because they know the truth that masks are not effective in preventing a microscopic viral organism and should be following the science. I have 32 years of experience in the healthcare profession so I’ve seen the data but even without the data, it’s not only common sense but also common knowledge by now. If you are sick, stay home.
Unfortunately, the same medical people who insisted on jabs for all their patients are the ones insisting on masking in health care settings. It has not been my experience that physicians and hospital administrators follow anything but the CDC narrative. They certainly don't follow the science.
And that is because Medicaid and Medicare reimbursements are tied to adherence to many of the inept, useless federal agencies such as the FDA, CDC and even the EPA. One of the many ways are healthcare system is broken.
Yes, I learned years ago, when I was doing research about pregnancy and childbirth, that doctors are not scientists and don’t think like scientists by the way they are trained. It takes a long time for new science to trickle down into practice. Like episiotomies being proven not to help but cause harm and even twenty years later, doctors continuing to perform them because that is what their peers were doing and that was what they’d always done.
Which is why my daughter has home births with a midwife.
Yup, i agree, I didn’t have much choice with my firstborn as the nearest birthing center was over an hour and a half away and there were no home birth midwives locally. So I found a great doula and a less interventionist doctor and managed to have a non medicated hospital birth. For my second child, we were in a different city and state so I was able to go to a birthing center and it was such a great choice on so many levels. I wish more people would use midwives snd not be afraid of out of hospital births!
Long before COVID, our local hospital required any employee who didn't get the flu shot to mask up.
And Ontario nurses won a ruling against mandatory masking in place of the flu shot. Presumably because masks didn't work?
My own intuition is masks would be counterproductive, because they can change breathing patterns. Mask wearing may increase tidal volume - the amount of air inhaled and exhaled in each breath - to compensate for the stale air behind the mask. Deeper breathing would seem to get viral molecules deeper into our respiratory tract and make them more harmful, as we are told that lower respiratory infections are more likely to be harmful than upper respiratory infections.
One observational study out of Europe last spring suggested an increase in C-19 mortality from increased mask wearing. It was statistically significant but not that big: 10-20%. The strength of the study is that it looked at the 2nd COVID wave - a time period chosen because mask wearing policies were already in place before the start of the time period, and not in response to daily/weekly case counts. It is observational data so that is a big limitation.
https://www.cureus.com/articles/93826-correlation-between-mask-compliance-and-covid-19-outcomes-in-europe#article-information-publication-history
Megan Mansell wrote a very interesting piece on how it was possible that the virus droplets being forced through the mask material actually might have the effect of making the particles smaller and thus more likely to get deeper into the lungs.
Yes, she has written excellent pieces on how the masks can act as nebulizers. She also has an e-book on Amazon where she compiled her work.
It's analogous to how handheld sprayers work when misting plants or cleaning windows.
It frustrated me to no end that decision makers in schools and elsewhere preferred to listen to clueless doctors than to people like Mansell.
The appropriate "caring for grandma" control here is for the sick person to stay home... self quarantine... when possible. If one can't stay home, one should CHOOSE to avoid harming others WHEN SICK.
The fallacy in your opinion is it has no scientific basis. And a healthy person wearing a mask only helps the mental anxiety of the other. And, sorry, not my responsibility.
BTW, my "opinion" is backed by both scientific studies and the Constitution. What is yours backed by?
And, yes, I understand and respect your plea for calm discussion. But that doesn't mean nobody can disagree with you or ask for facts behind your opinion.
I spent 18 months keeping my factually accurate opinions to myself in face of rude idiots scared out of their wits. Out of respect for grandmas everywhere. That ship has sailed. I'm not allowing even polite bullies to make me do scientifically stupid things. Move to a state where blue science is the norm if you need that, but leave me alone. Please.
Most of us want calm discussion and good faith replies to our comments, I know it annoys me when people twist my words to try and gain some perceived advantage. I have two teenage boys so I completely understand and have plenty of experience with it.
But the mature response to bad faith replies is to call out the commenter and specifically point out the flaws and falsehood in their response. With our resident Ukraine defenders it's like shooting a fish in a barrel, they are so used to dealing with half-wits they have no idea how to respond to logical counter-responses.
What people are reacting to Angela, is your demand that people "don't jump on me" in your initial comment and then immediately throwing that in M VARR's face when he replied respectfully. You don't get to set the rules of the discussion, and declare certain thoughts or questions off-limits. If you think someone is replying dishonestly then reply to them and dissect their comment and tell us why. That's how thoughtful adults debate things.
Most of us are sick and tired of people telling us what we are and aren't allowed to say. That's why you are getting such a visceral reaction Angela, as your comments attempted to limit other's response out of some sort of misplaced politeness. In case you hadn't noticed, that is exactly what got us into the mess of the last few years and is the tactic at the heart of cancel culture (i.e. your opinions may hurt my feelings so you aren't allowed to say them).
We just aren't going to play along anymore.
Wow! I just didnt want people's emotional outbursts, which I got from *some*. That us what is at the heart of everything bad today: emotionalism. That is what our propaganda media has done to us. That is what this venue of the internet writing has done to us. The art of conversation with its back and forth nuances has died.
I understand that. And it is hard to “hear” tone and easy to misconstrue intent on this kind of platform, which can make discussions touchy sometimes. I appreciate that you are willing to put your thoughts out there and discuss them.
I think the thing is, many in the medical field are the ones using emotions into manipulating people to wear masks. They know people need to see their friends and family or get medical care, so they will comply because they can’t risk not getting access. There is no science supporting mask wearing (especially cloth and surgical masks that are not tested and fitted) for the prevention of respiratory illness. I think some of the reactions you are getting is because the medical community has manipulated people into believing masks do something when they don’t. Thus perpetuating the lie. And your initial statement made it sound like you thought that because medical centers still require masks to be worn, there might be some valid reason for that. There isn’t. At all. And it is exasperating how well the sheep in the medical field have stuck to this totally unscientific protocol and how they’ve been able to convince people that the practice is justified. I think what you’re hearing is a lot of frustration about how well the propaganda campaign has worked and how hard it is to convince people that masks don’t work. I hope that makes sense.
Enabling is not an effective strategy. I am worn out from trying to protect someone’s feeling. This is petty but no one tried to protect my feeling during this debacle, demonic experience. Sound selfish, not going to apologize but I will reflect.
And even more so with this comment. Thank you for stating my feelings so eloquently.
One heart is not enough approval for this excellent response.
I do recommend looking at mask studies done from before COVID (if they haven't all been retconned at this point) because the findings are fascinating. In essence, they truly don't work in limiting the spread of respiratory viruses. As you noted below, large droplets can be caught by masks, that's true - but they aren't the driving force in the spread of respiratory viruses. Also, fascinating studies done of using masks in surgical theatres with equally unimpressive outcomes. Again, they catch large droplets contaminants, but saw no difference in rate of post-op infections.
As for Asians - they are a masking culture and I don't know if they did it more previously because they felt masking provided a filter for poor air quality or if they were motivated to reduce illness. I really, really don't want to encourage a masking culture AT ALL. It is deeply dehumanizing. There is a reason the CCP can control the Chinese population so easily.
Had dinner with my acupuncture doctorate teacher friend yesterday. The Acupuncture in school is still all masked up, and the Dr. said they are fine with it. I did try to explain about the 'mosquito and tennis racquet' analogy, but they said they are not getting colds like they regularly do so the masks must be helping. Dunno what to say to that, except that IF they DO get a cold, that mask is going to start hurting them in a hurry, and the sad fact that the masks are known to have some bad shizz embedded in them, further enhancing respiratory lung issues, nanos and who knows what else, dioxins....when the medicos (both eastern and western) are this dumb?, what to do....best NAB
I've never worn a mask during this 2 1/2 year joke. Never even had the sniffles. With that, people get sick.....it's okay....it's been going on for years. It's not an automatic death sentence. Peeps need to get a grip on reality. Turn off the damn TV!
Exactly right! Some doctors have actually come out and said that Covid is a lot less dangerous and deadly than the flu, but that is not something that mass media will promote.
Me either!
For everyone’s information, Mask-wearing is STILL required for nonjabbed employees where my daughter works (RN @ Arizona hospital), which, as you note, is discrimination between jabbed and unjabbed.
Really makes ya wonder about the ability of the hospital decision makers - what other poor decisions are they making? Do they not realize that the jabbed are just as likely as the unjabbed to transmit? I've read these studies for months (long before this week's revelation) and I don't presume to have a medical or scientific background. Disappointing that "the experts" can't figure out this logical, common sense information - backed by science!!
This all was apparent as soon as fully vaxxed people were getting infected with and transmitting Delta, which was known in the summer of 2021. At that point, it should have been a personal medical decision (what it always should have been anyway!). The fact that it wasn't and that they continued with mandates shows that this was not about the science at all but about control.
Completely agree with you Hendrick!!
So they are NOT requiring masks for jabbed employees? That would surprising. I haven't been in a hospital in Arizona, but I have been in many in Texas and they universally require masks for ALL employees. One hospital briefly changed their policy to only require masks in patient care areas, but pretty quickly snapped it back to everybody everywhere.
Possibly because of fears of being sued for medical discrimination. Can’t claim discrimination if everyone is treated the same.
I was thinking of that when I had to wear a mask and my transmitting coworkers didnt. I thought of that when you weren't allowed into any venue in nyc without a vaccine card, and a mask wasnt even an option.
Where were the discrimination lawsuits?? 🤔
The last two years were a nightmare and in many countries they still are, and even here in some work places because of evil, vaccine coercion.
Those damned satanic vaccines, in my opinion, were the greatest evil ever.
I spent two years of my life not knowing if I could ever travel to see my children, ever go back to the city of my birth, ever be able to keep my job, ever be able to have a conversation with a friend or relative without hearing them brag about their covid vaccine, etc...so masks were not as great a concern for me as the poison shots. My daughter's obstetrician just tried to push the poison on her (and her preborn baby)for a 3rd time in her pregnancy! AT 8 MONTHS! What kind of sick unhinged democrat insanity is this? Are they so ignorant about all the truth which is finally leaking out about them?!
While masks unnerve so many, *justifiably*, the death and sickness injections are still being pushed and that is what personally freaks me out!!
I understand that and many people also have told me the same thing. But, I have to agree with what some have said, that the masks were just the gateway, the first step in coercion and since that worked so well, they moved on to the jabs. In my opinion, if we had all just said no from the very beginning, it would never have gotten as far as it did. Lesson learned though (for me at least). I will never follow any of these kinds of mandates ever again.
I am so sorry for all of the mental anguish you have endured, that all of us nonconformists have endured, these past two and a half years 😢 I hope the tide is turning and those responsible will somehow be made to pay for their crimes.
Correct. Jabbed don’t have to constantly mask; unjabbed do. Firsthand info from my RN daughter. Now, if another employee starts to warn her to pull her mask up from below her chin, she gives them the evil eye, and then they usually back off.
My husband is a doctor in Michigan, and his hospital (which owns his practice) required everyone to wear a mask and unjabbed to wear N-95s. This was based on the CMS vaccine mandate. He started out wearing an N-95, but it was so uncomfortable all day (because they're test-fitted and tight!). Plus, his elderly patients couldn't understand what he was saying. Eventually, he just wore a surgical mask and expected to be reprimanded in some way, but that never happened. Anyway, everyone, including patients, at the hospital or its affiliated medical practices has to wear a mask even now, and most employees think it will never go away.
It’s not even recommended that anyone wear a N-95 all day. It’s too bad more physicians and healthcare professionals didn’t refuse to go along with this unscientific practice from the beginning.
Agree.
Another potential Problem with Masks: Reduced Viral Interference
If we inhale hundreds of thousands to millions of virions every minutes, and if most of these viruses are benign, and if they interfere/ compete with each other, then reducing overall virus exposure will also reduce exposure to benign but interfering/ competing viruses, thus canceling any benefit.
Perhaps this situation explains why even suffocating N95 Respirators vs surgical masks did not reduce influenza infections in this 2019 randomized controlled trial among medical workers.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2749214
Great point!
Nope. No masks.
Remember what Ford said about color cars? Anybody can chose the color they like as long as it is black. Agree we are entitled to our opinion, but some only look at it as “you are entitled to your opinion AS LONG AS IT IS THE SAME AS MINE”!
It’s one thing to have a mask be optional *in all settings, including medical*, but the mandatory masking at my doctor’s office absolutely infuriates me.
I leave after an appointment with a terrible headache, from breathing my own CO2. And I have accompanied both my parents to chemotherapy on multiple occasions (pre-covid, obviously), with NO ISSUES. This virtue signaling, controlling behavior drives me nuts.
Wearing a mask to prevent the mucus and other large droplets from infecting your coworkers is very considerate.
I really hope I would be brave like Mr Hahn, he’s very inspiring!
I live in Wisconsin. Every single medical provider is still insisting everyone wear a paper (plastic, really) mask. Hospitals, clinics...all of them.
http://www.noethics.net/News/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=25064:-judge-c-winston-gilchrist-of-lillington-nc-cheerleader-for-attorney-thieves&Itemid=82
Great article about the judge. Thanks for posting!
It’s all about power. Reminds me of my theater friends who insist on the audience being masked while the actors are mask free. One actually said we perform for your benefit and it’s your duty to keep us safe. Who are you kidding? You’re on stage to feed your ego! Gimme a break, you’re not that precious.
We had the opposite, only unvaxxed were asked to mask (but no one checked status) and the adult actors didn’t wear masks but the child actors did (clear ones) 😞 It was so stupid and unreasonable. And it made it hard to hear the child actors as well.
🙄 I currently perform with a group that is scripturally based, so there’s none of this silliness going on. And it has the added benefit of serving a higher purpose. I have been basically banned from other groups because of my healthcare decisions, because a hobby should not determine my health. But really, I’ve been banned for thinking differently. I feel sorry for those kids. The adults should be ashamed of themselves. All they are doing is teaching kids to fear life.
So... Jeff.... How can a judge... be it “his kingdom” or not disregard the constitutional rights of a U.S. citizen?! Oh...., how Forest Gump of me... our constitutional rights ended on March 11, 2020... Lockdown Day ( arguable waaaaay before).... but just for argument sake, if we still have a constitution hidden in a woke closet somewhere under a pile of dusty musty mildewed law books.... isn’t the Judge sworn to uphold the constitution ... under Section 242 of Title 18 which makes it a crime for a person “acting under color of any law” to willfully deprive a person of a right or privilege protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States."
"For the purpose of Section 242, acts under "color of law include acts not only done by federal, state, or local officials within their lawful authority, but also acts done beyond the bounds of that official's lawful authority, if the acts are done while the official is purporting to or pretending to act in the performance of his/her official duties.
"The offense is punishable by a range of imprisonment up to a life term, or the death penalty, depending upon the circumstances of the crime, and the resulting injury, if any."
Weigh in counselor...
Well said, Maureen. I tried to call his office or courthouse to tell him what I thought of his beavior. I had the numbers but most wouldn't take a message. I decided since Tucker Carlson had called him out I didn't need to.
Thank you John 😌
And also, if he is giving orders for medical interventions shouldn’t he at least be a medical practitioner?? Isn’t that akin to practicing medicine without a license?
It's especially egregious that he took this action when he was not wearing a mask and abiding by his own diktat.
Excuse me for using your comment to comment on this thread.
Being the last word freak that I am.
This thread reminds me of the child's game where one sentence is whispered into the next person in the circle. By the time it gets back around it has no resemblance to the original.
But it is fun
Lol... no apologies... I’m thrilled to be in this tribe or posse as Bannon calls it of awake readers and like minded... 👏🏻
Regardless of one's faith, or religious beliefs--"Superspreader" is a documentary that people should see for inspiration. Minister and musician-Sean Feucht led the way in challenging the state when the Churches were told they couldn't hold worship services--and "no singing allowed!" His courageous non-compliance spread across the nation, inspiring other Christians and churches to challenge authority. Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uam-xmFz2cc
He is an inspiration and a role model!
I have to admit that last year I bowed out of jury duty solely because I didn't want to be stuck there wearing a mask all day. I filled out the acknowledgment form that I was needed to care for my minor child, which is true, but normally I would make arrangements to be able to do jury duty. No thanks, not as long as they are requiring masks.
I've aged out of the requirement to serve on juries . . . and of having colonoscopies, too! Who says it's not good to be old?
100%, my friend. So sick and tired of this. The ongoing cooperation with this is just pathetic.
Tough case to solve. Judge already biased the jury candidates before the trial even started. The victor most likely had on the N-95 or better.
Amen!
The Judge needs a mask delivery......lots of them. Get an address.
Love your idea! Let's send masks!
Address for the Harnett County Courthouse:
301 W. Cornelius Harnett Blvd
Suite 100
Lillington, NC 27546
Phone #: (910) 814-4400
Make them MAGA masks!
Or Masks that say Make America Free Again!
Used
Not maga masks. Be anonymous, not the “deplorables.”
It makes them think it’s more than just the “dangerous” “knife to the throat of America” “maga republican” “terrorists” - and it is.
No way am i spending ANY $$ on masks!! Save your money to multiply the jailed single dad who took it for US!!
Plenty of them on the ground.
Great point!
Ha!... Oh, why not buy the masks and put it on the Judges charge card? A fantastic prank I dare say. Order say, 100,000 masks--charge it to the judges bank debit card...have Amazon ship them to his home address.
MAGA masks--we need to make them--and send them to any brown shirts propagating the muzzle mandates.
I’ll have to reappropriate some the VA. Great idea : )
...all the ones that are stuck to the blacktop in parking lots, etc.
I think I just found his home address— Was posted on a Twitter comment about this case.
Charles Winston Gilchrist,
61 Joel Way,
Lillington, NC. 27546
I say let’s post this early on Monday and start a project to fill his mailbox to overflowing with masks and helpful comments like “we understand you were not wearing a mask when you were in court so here you go!”
I like it! Good work, Eli.
Good grief, I live a couple of counties over from Harnett County, NC! Unbelievable! There needs to be a lawsuit against this judge. How can his actions be lawful?
It’s not lawful …. He’s the type of judge who enjoys legislating from the bench. His Kingdom…. His rules! An embarrassment to the system.
Shouldn't he be charged with unlawful imprisonment at the least?
Trust me…. That will never happen as it would prove the bench with an abuse of power ….. 🤣😏
Jeff's rare dark humor makes the tyranny we are all living through more bearable. I have no idea how he puts out this brilliant newsletter every day, but I pray he never stops.
Ok, I’ve got something for you: We’re going to create a new reality show with a comedic twist called: Swamp Justice. Jefferey, you are the star of course…a hick lawyer/Private Eye who, at first appearance, is rather a dufus - albeit a curiously diverse one - capable of a host of ineptitudes…..a redneck Columbo, as it were. Now hear me out. In keeping with the distorted national urbanite and media perceptions of what it‘s like to reside in this cootie laden quagmire of death we call Florida we’ve got to really play this up....turn it up to 11. I can already envision the opening scene:
As we fade into the shot we hear your voice, faintly at first, getting slightly louder as the camera pans the inside of your office which, not coincidentally, is in a 10 x 40 ft. trailer situated next to a gator farm where the fencing is suspect at best, which explains why you thought it necessary to rechristen Ringo, you’re now 3 legged Rat Terrier, Peg Leg Pete. Rufus, your 143 lb Capybara, is sporting a black bandana around his neck emboldened with two simple letters......“So." Rufus - being the more streetwise (creekwise?) of the two - is, for now, still scampering about the property with all appendages still intact. You've decided to find his slightly amorous behavior with new visitors charming. (More on that later.)
You’re on the phone with a “big city” lawyer. The camera continues to survey your office and we are able to discern a bit more of the dialogue - a flurry of southern jargon jabs and haymakers: “y'all”....”I plumb reckon”..."fixinto"....“cattywampus”....“that dog won’t hunt”....and ”Son, I don’t care HOW you do it in Maskachusetts.” The "big city" lawyer (like most doctors, has no idea what to make of this).
The shrewdest of the shrewd will notice the eclectic array of background pictures, photographs and pithy sayings that festoon your desk and office walls……Teddy Roosevelt grappling with a Kodiak Bear, JFK, Ronald Reagan, an 8 x 10 autographed glossy of you and Dr. Simone Gold, The Crocodile Hunter - Steve Irwin, an official soccer mom sanctioned Merrick Garland caricature doormat with patented "Never Clean Technology," a dartboard with Bill Gate’s soulless black eyed face sufficiently harpooned with a half dozen vaccine needles, an 11 inch Tony Fauci replica doll being spitefully gnawed on and unceremoniously tossed about by your boisterous and chew happy Beagles, Smitty & Wesson, a 2022 Coffee & Covid "Reset This!" World Tour Poster, a 64 oz.“Give Me Coffee or Give Me Death” mug, a “Tea is For Sissies" wood plaque, a stack of surgical masks marked "kindling," a Walgreens shopping cart which you begrudgingly accepted in lieu of a client payment that you now use as a portable barbeque, to name just a few.
In a nutshell, the ongoing premise is how you, the presumed dufus attorney, along with Veronica - your sassy assistant, and recent escapee from Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan - are able to outthink, outwit, outmaneuver, outplay, and ostensibly run rings around those considered to be much smarter and wiser than.....y'all.
Should I call the folks at Discovery Plus or do YOU want to pitch it? Sho 'Nuff, we can get 'er done lickety split.
That be a knee-slapper, sho nuff !
one thought - can the "11 inch Tony Fauci replica doll" be a voodoo doll ?
.................. I'd like him to feel every gnaw and chew from the happy beagles.
Consider it done. Whatever puts a smile on your face. In the words of The Happy Painter, Bob Ross: "It's your world."
I thought that too!
Let’s do this! I think Epoch Times or The Daily Wire is setup and budgeted for just this type of series! It’ll be a huge hit!
I would totally watch this show! 🤣🤣🤣
Me too!!
I would watch this. In watching Jeff's recent interview, I noticed he had a great way about him, keeping you interested the entire time. Oh, Matlock was one of my favorite tv shows in the 80's. Change Andy to Jeff, move from Atlanta to somewhere in swamp land Florida. But just a female Canadian assistant is not enough. Needs the bumbling sidekick and an old nemesis - maybe one of the judges Jeff has come up against.
Yeah, the ideas are endless. Would have significantly lengthened an already long post. Oh, by the way, I don't see Veronica as "bumbling."....She can hold her own.
“You’ve decided to find his slightly amorous behavior with new visitors charming”🤣🤣
So many lil gems in this, thanks for the laugh
I like how your mind works. Very creative.
💯 LOVE THIS IDEA
bwahahahahhahahaha!
Well done! Wonderful concept
Wow, yes! I’d even buy a TV to do it!
You really are a radical!
No brain fog here!
🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
Side-splitting…love it!🤣🤣🤣
So showing the maskless vet who is boss is much more important than making sure the single man's child knows where his/her dad is, why he is not coming home, and ensuring that the child is not worrying and is safe and sound? Why am I surprised when it is always the children that get hurt when decisions are made by the radical left?
They are KILLING THE CHILDREN.
💯!!! And he probably has one of those “for the children” bumper stickers or something too 🙄 Big fakes the whole lot of them 😡
“Hold fast to that which is good…” In these times of hellish debauchery, we may have to look a little harder to find the good, but we will if we look up and focus on doing these other things as we rest in His promises:
“We urge you, brethren, admonish the unruly, encourage the fainthearted, help the weak, be patient with everyone. See that no one repays another with evil for evil, but always seek after that which is good for one another and for all people. Rejoice always; pray without ceasing; in everything give thanks; for this is God’s will for you in Christ Jesus. Do not quench the Spirit; do not despise prophetic utterances. But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good; abstain from every form of evil. Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you entirely; and may your spirit and soul and body be preserved complete, without blame at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. Faithful is He who calls you, and He also will bring it to pass.”
— 1 Thessalonians 5:14-24 NASB1995
My faith in Christ is the only thing that keeps me going through this. That same faith requires me to speak out against injustice and stand up for the vulnerable. Thank you for your encouragement.
Your faith prevented you from mass psychoses. Two of the elements are missing from the necessary conditions - isolation and free floating anxiety.
With God you are never alone.
He is with us in times of anxiety and we cling to him, not the “Borg” collective.
But sadly, I have Christian friends who are still totally brainwashed, in fact, one of my biggest disappointments is that my pastors will not speak out on this and I feel as if others want me to be quiet also. Eric Metaxas has written a good book entitled, Letter to the American Church. He says if the church doesn't begin to speak out against the totalitarianism, we are going to look back and find we were complicit in allowing terrible evil. I personally don't intend to be quiet.
Amen to Janice and Anne! To be silent is to be complicit! God has not given us a spirit of fear but of courage! I was an absentee election worker at one of the area nursing homes this past week. The notice on the door to the facility said that masks were required. I ignored it even though my democratic team member complied and not one word was said to me by the staff. None of the patients were wearing masks. The sad thing is that over half of the area facilities require the shot to enter. I am no longer helping with those facilities.
Amen!
Thank you Janice. With such atrocities being committed daily I look forward to your passages.
Know that I am always preaching to myself, searching the Scriptures to find truth to hang on to! Otherwise, I would lose my mind.
So helpful to stay grounded and know the truth.
I see the connection between FBI and Epstein as an informant... Epstein gave the FBI information on who to blackmail so those folks would do the bidding of the puppet masters. And now we understand some of the odd decisions and direction policy makers have made in the past that made us scratch our heads - other than just being 100% mentally deranged.
Maureen Comey erased the SDNY's evidence video of Epstein's death in jail.
'Suicided'?
The 3 Letters protected, aided and abetted Epstein and Maxwell (and her father) to obtain blackmail on everyone. The number and names of people are very extensive.
No one can/will speak out, for fear they will be “suicided” too. It must be like a secret fear club. And so the child trafficking/sexual abuse continues.
Epstein was clearly working for Mossad as well, but then again FBI might as well stand for “Federal Bureau of Israel”. There are many forms of treason, but working for Israel is the chosen form.
That would make sense.
Your comedic writing is appreciated.
The speed of science!
WHOOOOSH. “What was that?”
“That was science, mate.”
“What was it doing?”
“It just stole your pocketbook, silly.”
I’m shocked that not ONE other juror stood up to this tyrannical judge. This is perhaps the most shocking thing about the past few years. Brainless sheeple. Shocking. Can we multiply whoever goes up against this horrible judge
Yes! I think we should
multiply the man who stood up! Let him be blessed. More light on the tyranny!
Agreed! We all need to stand with and support one another!
Exactly. Imagine if every potential juror would have refused the mask. THAT is the only way to stop this evilness. Not one outlier out of many. Otherwise, it’ll never stop.
That's exactly what I told my former PCP when I walked out of my physical before it started. Push back or it never ends. I doubt he will.
Good for you!
College is a few decades in my rear-view mirror ... and I STILL don't know what I want to be when I grow up.
How wise IS IT, to permit a kid of say, 14, 15, 16, to make a decision like gender transformation ?
Is there something I'm missing, here?
............... even at 18. Just why the HECK is there even CONVERSATION around this?
Crazy, mixed up world !
None of this is about wisdom. It's basically elite cartels fighting for control over us, like mafia families in NYC. The government agencies are enforcement arms that sometimes change leadership...
THAT - and just another way to further our divisiveness, to my mind.
It's not about wisdom or consent. It's about ruining a vulnerable person's life as quickly and early as possible. If they can get a teen to consent to an irreversible procedure, disfiguring and painful surgery and permanent infertility, then they will be messed up for life and more likely to kill themselves or at least spread their confusion to others. The devil seeks the destruction of anybody he can get his hands on.
Or groom them to be ready to be used by the perverted ghouls pushing all of this!
The more I think about the transgender movement, the more I lean towards the idea that this movement is about sterilization and population control. All these poor transgender souls will never know the indescribable joy of bringing life into this world and caring for your child. And on top of this, when they will realize how they were used as children to commit atrocities against themselves, it will make their lives and view of adults even more unbearable.
"Time off the game clock"?
Pfft. Even without Ian, DeSantis should win Florida by a landslide.
Christ was always a joke in thiz election, a throw-away candidate.
Another reason to not trust doctors anymore. While the nurse will always ask what medications you take, when your physician prescribes something else for you, he/she will never consider the possible drug interactions.
Because doctors are mostly drug pushers today ( with some other possible redeeming qualities of humanity here and there), it is up to the patient to research or ask their druggist about interactions.
It is all so complicated, and so many patients dont know that they should do this, and then it is too late.
This drug interaction has been well known from the beginning. My husband is a doctor and never prescribed Paxlovid (unless the patient insisted, which some did) because of the manifold drug interactions and also the COVID rebound. It is particularly bad for the vaccinated, on which it was not tested--it was tested only on the unvaccinated, if I remember correctly.
Here in Michigan the only people who took Paxlovid are those who were vaccinated and usually boostered. When they got sick they were scared to death.
Please forgive my statement if it sounded blanket. I wish more doctors were like your husband. 😊
No, you're right. Most of his colleagues dispensed Paxlovid to almost everyone. Interestingly, he had a new PA working under his observation, and the PA told him that he'd stopped prescribing Paxlovid to his patients because they were all getting rebound COVID! Smart guy!
Doctors shouldn’t be pushing vaccines at all. They’re all toxic poison.
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Especially when they are prescribing untested mystery meds. "Just take this and we'll see what happens...." Oh well, the FDA said it's okay, so there's that.
The drug interactions are well communicated to doctors. Doctors may be all about pushing the pharma products they are told to, but they are not all about being sued and disregarding drug interactions is a good way to get sued.
You might think a safer approach would be to use Ivermectin, which has no drug interactions and has been shown to be quite effective as an early covid treatment. But NOOOO, that would be silly. Better to give the one Dr. Fauci says to and temporarily stop all the other medications old and infirm patients are taking to keep them alive, and make sure not to restart them too early because of the covid rebound and second Paxlovid course they will need.
Quote for the day; “Poor Charlie! Life can be SO unfair sometimes. I blame climate change. Please keep Hurricane Ian victim Charlie Crist in your thoughts today, while you’re doing your bathroom business.” Thanks for the laugh. :)
I agree, that ending was awesome 😆😂
The trans agenda people are demonic… they’re actively going after minors.
It’s absolutely predatory!!!
A large percent of these kids will desist… if society and American Culture- teachers and doctors- would stop shoving it down their throats trying to encourage and normalize it all!
I recently saw this picture- it said
-don’t be your child’s first bully-
And it was a set of parents standing behind a young child with rainbow pride wings
And the parents were holding scissors clipping the child’s rainbow colored wings 🤨
As you dissect culturally
How we arrived at this deranged moment… where cutting off the genitals of children is the thing parents are supposed to do to save their child from certain suicide…
I believe the framework for this was laid during the ‘anti bullying campaigns’ started in schools
On the surface
Sure anti bullying sounded good- like a good thing
BUT- what’s actually happening
Is it’s created a school culture where ‘anything goes’ and you aren’t allowed to say anything about anything or anyone…
if you’re a boy and you wanna show up to school in long fake nails, long fake eyelashes, glam eye makeup, a tube top, a mini skirt, and a long black wig…
No one is gonna say a word to you at school - not the kids and not the administration- because that would be bullying!
And so these confused kids- who have been swept up in this ‘gender revolution’- (and many are special needs children I might add- who have extreme difficulty with social connectedness and knowing what’s appropriate and what’s not socially) who are making these social missteps are never called to task to self correct- they are only EMBOLDENED and reinforced at schools!
My husband and I, although 71 and 70 years of age, have begun helping teach students at our church because we are burdened by these forces of evil that are coming after our children. One of my girls, a tenth grader, told me that there are boys walking around her public school wearing "tails." They're furries, or pretending to be. I can't believe we've reached the point where this nonsense is allowed.
I can’t even….
Wearing tails is the sort of thing kids do when they are 3 or 4, but even then wise parents chuckle at the PRETEND play of their children. Even older children who dress up as an animal for Halloween or a school event have ALWAYS *known* that they were simply wearing a COSTUME and that underneath they were still a boy or a girl HUMAN.
Accommodating these kids coddles them, to say the least. Grow up and become an adult HUMAN. For crying out loud.
I don’t even know where to begin saying how absurd, harmful, childish, foolish, and downright wrong it is for adults to be tolerating this for even one tiny nanosecond.
Agree with you completely.
Anyone I tell these things to- says- this can’t be true
But it is!!
Kids have lost hold of reality
They’re living in some fantasy state
And those people you speak of want to keep their heads buried in the sand..like they have through the decades about the snowballing debasing and perversion of the culture...how college dorms have been like bordellos (male and female) and drunken bars for decades, how schools have been promoting lgbtq with clubs since the 90s, how series on netflix show soft porn, men kisding men and more, women with women, trans people scarred by their parents not celebrating it, etc. Instagram practically nude posing, and Kardashian values (her mom made them famous by deliberately leaking Kims sex tape), and so much else
THIS is reality. This is what the gvt promotes in exchange for subsidies, this is everywhere. Even our church youth have to deal with this, and despite the influence of church groups and faith filled parents, the demonic culture is quite strong in its influence. It is pervasive. Never underestimate it.
Lord have mercy on our country and the collective west.
I can't help but think that perhaps the "love of the creatures more than the love of the Creator" has helped create this incredible spiral into the abyss. Do children find their parents more loving to their pets than their own children that they snuggle and take everywhere with them while sending offspring of to school to be hated, bullied, and exploited? I see their fb posts. It offends me, a stranger!
Our tiny rural school in Oklahoma has two “furries”.
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You are quite literally correct to say they are demonic. So is the abortion lobby and LGBTQ+ lobby.
Or a boy can show up in your girls’ locker room identifying as a girl but sitting there looking like a boy and leering at the girls in various stages of undress. Then when the girls complain, THEY get accused of “hate” and bullying 🙄🙄🙄😡😡😡
That literally happened in Vermont. The girls objected to having the boy leer and make inappropriate comments and the school forbade THE GIRLS using their own locker room so as not to offend the boy! Here's a link to the story, since I know sane people will think I am making it up. https://www.foxnews.com/us/vermont-girls-volleyball-players-banned-from-locker-room-after-objection-transgender-student-report
Yes, that exact story is what I was referring to, even though I didn’t mention it specifically (too lazy to go find the link to the article where I had read about it). Thank you for the link!
An interesting comment re the bullying. You probably have a really good point.
Nobody can say anything that “offends” anybody else. Well, unless you are a cross-dressing giant-boob-wearing student or teacher… then, it matters not that YOUR appearance and demeanor offend half of the student body. Or if your daughter’s teacher suggests that because she likes to wear short hair and ride mountain bikes or hike and fish and camp that maybe she is really a boy, and your daughter takes offense. Well, THAT kind of bullying is now okay, I guess.
How can a child brought up with Christian values and concept of sin even survive in a public school. What will happen if said child says 'mommy says that our religion doesnt accept homosexual marriage'. They will probably be harshly reprimanded.
I know.
It’s really hard to comprehend why Christian families keep their KIDS in these unfortunate cesspools.
A neighbor was considering homeschooling because of it. But this year her school building has new leadership and things are better. (She works in the school building so undoubtedly knows better than many.). But, what about next year? Or the year after that? And what about when the kids are in middle school?
It’s a heckuva lot easier to ease into homeschooling in elementary school than in middle or high school.
Our family has been SO THANKFUL for our freedom to homeschool. It is a blessing. In many ways. I cannot recommend it enough.
TED refused to air an erudite and informational talk about homeopathy in Africa by a woman who is successfully working with AIDS patients (successfully, as in people go from bedridden and wasting to working and feeding their families), but this gets the green light. Okay, then,
TED has been hijacked by progressives … vaccine ideologs- like Gates, gender revolution ideologs, climate agenda people …
It’s not what it was
TED was always squarely mainstream, and has been pushing the climate malarkey and other WEF-associated agendas forever. Sometimes a good talk that fits inside the approved boundaries gets out, like ones by Brené Brown or Vanessa Van Edwards, but overall it’s just a slightly less smug version of NPR.