Judge jails mask objector; CDC hires same PR firm as Pfizer, Moderna; Biden nukes Chinese chipmakers; EU investigates jabs; Epstein worked for the FBI; FBI arrests senior sitters; and lots more.
Steve Kirsch compiled studies that verify masks PRIOR TO COVID were and are as useless as the jabs in preventing transmission of respiratory pathogens.... Don’t hate on me... I’m just sharing the incomparable indomitable persistent Steve Kirsch’s Herculean commitment to stop the lies and get anyone pushing them to debate his (Steve’s) collection of facts....https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/masks-fail-their-latest-test
It seems to me that the judge was more about control. Also it figures that he was a hate filled democrat and that this was a political reaction. Not allowing the man to call his children, and putting him in jail instead of dismissing him was beyond logical.
In Florida here: all hospitals and doctor offices still want it, and I dont personally mind in *those settings*. Whatever. 🤷The Asians have been doing it forever. Maybe viruses and flu can be controlled a bit this way? If it can help that in *MEDICAL* settings where people are already sick or immuno-compromised then so be it.
I *DID* mind when it was required/COMPULSARY by workplaces to discriminate between vaccinated and non vaccinated.
I DID mind when like the judge, it is a political statement!!
For me, vaccines are a worse story.. For me, that was pure draconian evil.
Dont jump on me. We are all entitled to our opinion.
That is since covid. Google with time restriction pre 2019 and the world of study on the futility of community masking is your oyster! While there, do a little search for the physical and mental health problems with masking. You will be shocked I think. Maybe you would (for our edification) include a link to a scientific peer reviewed double blind study that lends credence to masking being a social and health benefit. I am willing to read it.
Masks we have been forced to wear are meant to keep spittle out of the patient's bodies during operations. What they are used for now is a crutch for the mentally ill. Wake up M Varr.
I managed -- somehow -- to commute on stuffed subway cars during the winter, up close and personal with sneezers, coughers, nose blowers -- and when I tell you I cannot remember the last cold or flu I've had, I mean it. I can also tell you that virtually every co-worker in my small department lined up for the "flu" shots -- and who was the one who was never sick with the flu?
I said 'dont jump on me' for my opinion. It is from observation for *medical settings*.
I didnt make the rules. They do.
However, I had a cold recently at work. There was no way I could control sneezing or blowing my nose. I felt terrible because I knew that without a mask (I wasnt wearing one) one of my coworkers would catch it. Two did.
When we were wearing masks back in 2020, again I had a cold. No one caught it. Just observation. Perhaps that is why *medical settings* in Florida, a FREE RED STATE still require it? We are all entitled to our opinions with respect, or we become no better or less hateful than that *demoncrat* politically motivated judge.
Angela, this is only my observation but during my professional life I was required to be “fit-tested” for an N-95 mask yearly because I was told that “masks cannot stop viruses, not even minimally”. This was drilled into my head. Imagine my surprise when all this was suddenly and forcefully reversed! No supporting studies, no data, just mr. fauci asserting the necessity. And 25 years of OSHA studies scrubbed from their .gov website. It was then when the lightbulb got switched on for me personally. It wasn’t about infection. At all. The only concern I have for your viewpoint is that it encourages the continuing influence of fear among people. Fear of human contact, free interaction. Fear that unintentionally and perhaps unconsciously becomes magnified so that the presence or absence of a mask determines one’s social behavior. It has had such a negative impact on our children, and our society in general that it really ought to be avoided. It is part of the healing that we must do.
Credenda - glad you noticed all the hypocrisy too! Especially with OSHA, like seriously…double, nay, triple facepalm on that one. When I worked in nursing, every year we had to take an infection control and procedures test. Same test, year after year. Every year it would ask us what the top tier of universal precautions was and every year it was the same…hand washing! Nothing on that test about masking procedures because in my area, family practice, they never applied to us despite us being the ones who were seeing all the patients with strep, influenza, colds, etc. How many hundreds and hundreds of people have I swapped throats for strep and flu over 12 years and never was a mask worn. I worked through the entire H1N1 pandemic, immunocompromised to boot, and we never wore a mask. None of the doctors gave two craps either that I was immunocompromised, wasn’t even mentioned or a thought in their heads. The whole pandemic was just business as usual. In 12 years I got sick with Fifth’s Disease once, which my nephew gave me outside clinic, and strep and influenza each once which I could have gotten from a patient but, could very well have also gotten from one of my nephews or nieces too. At work, I washed my hands a hundred times a day, it’s just what we did, not masking. People now have it in their heads that we should mask forever for cold and flu seasons as if all this new information suddenly was brought to light because of COVID and now that we know better we can do the correct thing. Yeah no, we had all the information but then these government agencies needed something to appear to the public like they were “doing something” and the masking was such an easy thing to have propagandized. They literally got an entire country to fear the unmasked face. I still know people who won’t stop masking outside. They literally live, in October 2022, where like 99% of people are not masking anymore yet they still believe their mask is having a meaningful difference to “protect others”. That’s the problem with the healthcare facilities. I’m spending 100% of my time without a mask on my face. I go to grocery stores, my sisters home, the local fair, restaurants, I don’t even wear one during my Remicade infusions because I managed to get exemption for that one place, yet somehow the 30 minutes I wear one to my neurology follow up is supposed to save me somehow? Please.
Yes yes yes a thousand times yes to your posts Credenda and Julia C!!! The actual science and data never justified any of this and yet people have been convinced that it might help so we should still do it. No and no. But it is an uphill battle to undo the damage from the constant propaganda over the past two years 😕
Yes undoing this is going to take a while for sure. I was pleasantly surprised when I went to my dentist the other day that they finally got rid of the masks. I pulled into the parking lot and my spidey senses immediately perked up…”the mask sign is gone off the door.” But when I asked the hygienist what finally made them flip the switch, she said, “well I think it was cause at this point we figured that everyone is just taking their masks off when they get into the rooms for their treatments and spending all that time not wearing them so…” Um….that is how your office has been operating the WHOLE pandemic! 🤦🏻♀️ Clearly she had no clue why they actually decided to change their policy but decided that since that they had, NOW logic could suddenly enter the picture? Ok then.
Never wore a mask to the dentist this whole time - for the same reason. Admittedly, they had a "temp check/questions" screening before anyone went into the office, but seriously - we're in there the whole time with our mouth wide open. What is a mask supposed to do? Sadly, I think that was pushed on them from the state in order to be open. I didn't even notice they had a "mask required sign" until sometime in 2021 - and then it was gone and practice is back to normal.
It’s been a bit of a challenge for me as I have over 10 specialists in three states so, there’s so many policies and providers to deal with. I just haven’t been able to escape it or get them to engage in any meaningful discussion about masking. I mentioned somewhere on here that I did get an exemption for my Remicade infusion treatments but, I had to actually involve the acting hospital president and find one of my doctors to write a note which was a pain, the actual infusion center office manager did NOT want me going maskless. I still do have to pull the mask up every time the nurse enters the room, it was the only accommodation they would do. I’m at the point though where since CDC updated it’s recommendations, I of course don’t care a fig what they say but it’s what the hospitals go by obviously, that every facility/office that doesn’t start changing their policy and looks to be a forever masking place is going to start getting requests/letters from me filing for a permanent exemption. It’s just a daunting task to think of doing all that mental work when I’m already brain fogged and dealing with enough as it is. Speaking of dentists though, my sister went to a dentist for the first time in a while and not only was there no masks, she said he was engaging in conversation about the COVID propaganda and how bad it’s been and my sister said “he also wanted to be sure I would never vote for Biden.” 🤣 I bet that dentist has lost a patient or two, but I also bet he hasn’t given two craps about it either!
Yeah the waiting room and hallway masking was basically their attempt to show they were trying to be “part of the solution” because when you venture into your actual visit, you’re just going to spend all that time unmasked around a bunch of other unmasked patients so, seriously what good did they honestly think 5-10 minutes masked in the waiting room would do? In my dental office they don’t even have doors on the exam rooms. They are just separate little spaces separated by walls with open air flow into the hallway that can just then also travel into the next rooms. You are sitting I would guess about 10 feet away from your neighbor. They also never cared if you took your mask off immediately when you got in the room or for visits that didn’t even consist of any dental work. I had an entire jaw issue consult with dentist and the minute I started talking she told me I could take it off. So they literally only were utilizing them for the your hallway trip and the interaction within the waiting room to alleviate other patients anxiety so they wouldn’t have to see unmasked faces. That’s why healthcare still won’t get rid of them. Science or case counts or hospital numbers etc. has nothing to do with it, they know that people have been conditioned to be scared of unmasked faces in healthcare settings.
Julia C- Amen to everything you said! I find it crazy that something that would have been seen as abnormal prior to 2020, is now widely accepted everywhere, and still FORCED on us by some "heath care" professionals and offices. If some folks out there still feel reassured by the masks, OK fine, let them wear it, but leave the rest of us alone.
Seriously, if my doctors want to be ridiculous and wear them for the rest of the their lives and I have to never see their faces again, I’ve gotten to the point where I just don’t care and I’m like, so be it. But you can’t force me to do this forever and I will not. I was injured by a mask, since I have POTS they exacerbated a whole bunch of symptoms and I ended up having a hypoperfusion stressor, passed out, and had a brain injury. I had two months of immediate slurred speech and now two years later, I’m still dealing with vocal cord dysfunction that I need speech therapy for that I can’t get, because they won’t let me go without a mask! I also have something called MCAS which causes you to react to smells and chemicals and the polypropylene plastic in the masks make me sick. My doctors don’t care and I have to don the very intervention that injured me in order to seek follow up care for the consequences of that exact injury! It’s been a friggin nightmare. I refuse to have all virtual care because it’s limited and most of my offices stopped offering it anyway. After the CDC changed its “recommendations” again for the healthcare settings and my primary care facility still was requiring them, I’m in New England which is always in the “red zone” so we will never be told we can stop wearing masks here…I told my primary that I’m NOT doing this forever and that everyone is going to have to start to giving me some more concessions. I only have an exemption for my Remicade infusions right now. Of course she was just silent. I seriously believe that because up here we are a very vaccinated/boostered area, it’s just keeping us in that red transmission zone rating perpetually. But for the other rating system they use for hospitalization/deaths, we’ve been low/green for ages. It’s time to be done with it, definitely with forcing patients to wear one if they don’t want to.
Julia- that is awful! I'm so sorry for what you have gone through. I, too have autoimmune diseases and know a lot about the conditions that you have. They have no right to do that to you and cause you further injury. I keep praying that the world wakes up, before it's too late.
Ugh this makes me so absolutely infuriated on your behalf!!! This is completely unacceptable and unconscionable!! I hate hearing people say “it’s no big deal” because for many people it IS a big deal!! I always feel lightheaded wearing a mask and my nose runs and my throat gets scratchy. Once I was at a medical office in the fall of 2020 and felt woozy and like I couldn’t breathe wearing a cloth mask. When they took my blood pressure, it was sky high. I NEVER have issues with that. This was the first time in my life my blood pressure was crazy high. I asked if I could take the mask off and they said yes (it was a functional medicine office so I think they only complied as much as they felt they had to). A few minutes later after I had been breathing freely, my blood pressure was down quite a bit. All those experiences plus the numerous studies and articles I have read about masks, have led me to think that they were not as was claimed, a no risk intervention. Clearly your experience shows the same.
When people say “Oh just stop complaining, it’s no big deal, I wear a mask all day and it doesn’t bother me.” My response is: “We’re not all the same. People react differently. This is akin to telling someone with a peanut allergy, ‘It’s no big deal, why are you bring such a baby, I don’t have any problems eating peanuts!’”
Having that thing on your face changes your normal breathing patterns. You’re taking deeper more shallow breaths to try and accommodate for having something covering your face and it can cause all sorts of issues, especially for more vulnerable people. I’m sitting here with Crohn’s, a connective tissue disorder, POTS, and mast cell disorder, my autonomic nervous system which controls my breathing is faulty and I’m having healthy people scoff at me cause “they can wear one just fine”. Yeah well, they can have all my disorders for a day and then we’ll talk. Your symptoms and what happened to me is proof that we can’t all be looked at as this collective who need to fall in line and do the same thing. I always bring up the example of acid reflux meds or allergy meds…why do you think there are so many brands on the market? Cause one singular kind is not going to work for 100% of the people who take it and some percentage of those people will either be allergic to or have issues with that med and need something else. Everyone, including doctors, started just looking at all their patients during COVID as a collective that needed to do the exact same two things, wear a mask and get the vaccine, regardless of their personal health situation or the consequences. It was kinda unprecedented. Then of course when you have consequences they are ignored or you are gaslight. They are all either too indoctrinated with the “safe and effective “ rhetoric for both vaccines and masking to do any logical thinking about it, or they know but are too chicken to say anything because they have been threatened by their hospital administrators and medical boards. I knew from day 1 masks were not what they claimed and since then have had more than ample access to data and real world experience showing they have not stopped seasonality or spread of this. All the doctors have had ample opportunity by this point to open their eyes, even if they fell for the propaganda at the start. That’s why I would have no pity for them anymore if they masked forever. I feel like at this point no one has an excuse anymore.
But they should do it knowing the risks and benefits (Iots of risks for really no benefit) if they are going to decide to mask. The problem is they have been led to believe masks can be beneficial, when that is clearly false. I agree that people should be able to choose but they also need to be informed regarding their choices, which has not been the case so far for the most part. At that point, if their lucky rabbit’s foot of a face covering makes them feel better, I guess that’s their problem 🤷♀️
See I just think that at this point, almost 3 years in, everyone has had plenty of opportunity to open their eyes and seek out what the actual truth is. Even if you bought into the propaganda and lie, everyone has a friend, family member, coworker, newsfeed, or someone in their life that has probably by this point tried to meaningfully share the truth and data with them. They either won’t read it or maybe read it but refuse to accept it as truth because of where it comes from or the political affiliation of who shared it. People are being informed in a lot of ways and willfully ignoring it. My sister has a neighbor/friend who bought into the masking extremely hard because she is immunosuppressed. She believes those things are saving her life to the point she still masks outdoors here in an area where no one masks anymore, and basically has whipped her husband and teenaged sons into masking submission as well, the whole “they have to mask to protect her” jargon. I see it in her comment threads, people have tried their best to share data, articles, medical publications, the truth about the fungal and bacterial growth and how masks are actually even more dangerous and detrimental to immunocompromised individuals, etc. etc. She just won’t hear it. She believes she must wear it and that is that. Same with vaccine, she’s up to her 5th. People are sincerely worried for her immune system but she keeps telling them the shot is great for her immune system. So at this point, obviously I would feel sorry if something bad happened for her but, you get to the point where you just have to wash your hands of people who refuse to remove the wool from their eyes. It’s obviously tricky when those people are making the policy for offices you need to frequent.
The government agency weren’t seeking to appear to be “doing something”. Masking was 1) establish authority where none existed before and 2) to gauge compliance
My post was completely misconstrued by most. I have been to the hospital many more times than I would like lately 2020 - 2022 due to mom with cancer, husband who had brain surgery, etc.
I am in the beautiful free state of Florida.
All the *medical settings* still require it.
Right or wrong, what can I do? Make a scene? I politely comply.
You can tell them that you find their participation in a lie deeply disturbing. Their participation in this lie also casts some serious doubt on their medical proficiency, professionalism, and integrity.
I recently had an episode (over the bars on my mountain bike) where I had to go find an emergency room or urgent to check out the extent of the damage. I was out of town at the time in another state. I found both a hospital emergency room and urgent care. At both, I told them that I would not wear a mask. Both venues told me they would not see me. At the urgent care, I videotaped the Dr telling me he would not look at my injury unless I put a mask on. A Dr that came out from behind a partition putting on a mask as he approached me. So, nobody was wearing them anyway until I asked to be seen.
I thought about it for awhile and returned to the hospital emergency room. I told the receptionist that I needed to be seen to ascertain my injuries and, under duress, would wear the mask. But, I asked her for a pen and paper, and the name of the attending physician or nurses assistant. I wrote on the paper that I was being forced against my will to put on a mask to receive emergency medical evaluation and the the attending physician was the one enforcing this measure. I asked her to have him sign it. She passed it into another cubicle and, after a moment, the AP stuck his head out and declared “I’m not signing this!” “Why’, I asked, “is any part of it not true?” He let out a disgusted sigh and told me to wait out in waiting room and he’d check me out in a minute.
Turns out nothing life threatening and I got out of there without donning a mask.
I sympathize with you because I was in a similar situation last winter and complied because they had the power to stop me from seeing my dying mom and I couldn’t do anything about it 😞 So I get that, I really do.
The part that concerns me about your post is more that you seemed to be saying, unless I misunderstood, that because these medical settings were requiring the masks, maybe that meant they had some effect even if it might be limited. That is nonsense and not supported by any science over the past decades. Masks can actually increase transmission and cause other undesirable effects so even if there were any benefits on one side, they would be negated by the adverse effects. But there are no benefits especially against an aerosolized respiratory virus.
I was wondering out loud. Thank you for your thoughtful post.
So sorry about your mother.
My mother is in hospice at my house right now.
In October 2020 my husband had surgery and I wasnt even allowed in the hospital. I nearly went out of my mind because a loved one is a patients best advocate for things not to go wrong.
Thank you. And I am so sorry you have been going through all that. My dad was the same, he DESPISED wearing a mask but would not leave my mom’s side unless there was someone else from the family to advocate for her there. It is really unconscionable in my opinion how hospitals and doctors have used their power to intimidate and coerce family members and patients.
I hear what you’re saying, and that you’re trying to be considerate of your coworkers, but what about all our lives, before all this Covid19 crap, when we all got colds, all the time, and of course sometimes passed them along to each other? You never wore a mask back then. Think about why you now believe you should wear a mask whenever you have a cold. In other words, consider the possibility that the propaganda is still working on you.
I said that I dont mind complying when I am in a **hospital setting*You misconstrued my post..
I DID not say that I wore one when I had a cold recently.
I simply made an anecdotal observation. THAT is all. I have had a husband in hospital with brain surgery, an 87 year old mom with cancer, so I have been to many medical settings lately, unfortunately. AND I am in Florida.
Not all hospitals require masks these days. Our local hospitals require masks but most folks simply don't/won't wear them anymore. When I see someone wearing mask I can't help but think they're still living in the scamdemic... One of my physician's told staff she would continue wearing her N-95 mask but gave no reason when asked.
For years our local hospital has required hospital employees to wear a mask if they don't take the flu vax. Funny thing is, we saw far more employees with the flu and vaxed than we did in the non-vaxed employees.
I will never put another one on my face. I watched my grandson wear a mask to school until March of this year. He has allergies and hated having to wear it more than anything. He knew as a 5th grader, that masks didn't stop the spread of anything but smiles...
"I said 'don't hate on me' for my opinion." Where did M VARR in any way indicate even the slightest indication of anything ever remotely suggesting hate? He very politely asked you a reasonable question as you were making a claim about science and health.
You stated an opinion and received a request to share any scientific evidence you had to back it up, and you immediately suggest that question is "hateful", sounding a lot like all the propaganda reinforcing censorship, to me.
I also don't hate you for sure--I don't even know you--but I do find that comment with its implied and completely unjustified accusation--manipulative and dishonest, and thus very annoying.
Check out the website "The Healthy American" - Peggy Hall gives some very doable advice for being exempted from wearing a mask in medical settings. A great deal of success, but not 100% since some medical settings refuse to follow the law. It's at least worth trying and letting them know that we don't go along with their criminal behavior.
Definitely the wrong place to be hoping not to get jumped on for saying mildly positive things about masks!
C&C is populated by hard core mask haters. I'd include myself in that category, but I too find myself reluctantly wearing masks in some healthcare settings. You have the choice of masking up or making a big scene and probably being asked to leave, which doesn't help much when you're trying to get some business done or visiting someone. I generally just put my stupid mask on below my nose and these days that is adequate to project minimal compliance.
More importantly, if you can, avoid the msm medical community and doctors. I refused a dental check up because they still insist on the mask. I said no thanks. They were surprised.
I can relate…my Dentist was completely overboard on the mask/sanitizing thing…so I had to change Dentists! Harder to change Dr because I otherwise really like my Dr. She says we only have to wear masks in waiting room, take off in exam room….unfortunately they can get fined by the State (CA)
Yes I do that too. Even though even the CDC doesn’t recommend them anymore, seems like Medical facilities continue this uncalled for practice. I have a mask made out of netting (you can’t tell it’s virtually breath thru). And I wear that one below my nose.
Yes, before I, thank the Lord, found a PC physician and common sense dentist who had no mask mandate, I always wore the ‘fake mask.’They are easy to obtain. Why would you wear one that restricts your breathing?
Paula- I have one of those types of masks for "emergency use only" like certain medical offices. It was the best thing I ever bought in 2020- conventional masks give me panic attacks and gag me.
I wanted to get one of those fake masks, but never got around to it!
As I work in healthcare and intermittently have to don a mask, I have special N95's I've modified that fit very loosely and have holes punched in strategic locations. Probably not as breathable as netting, but they are tolerable for short periods.
I get that as there are several genuinely bad-faith types that regularly post comments here that deliberately (IMO) misconstrue what others say. M Varr is not one of them, he specifically and respectfully asked for scientific evidence to back your assertion.
You stated that you don't mind being required to wear a mask in some settings because they make other people feel better (go reread your comment, that's the gist of it). Like it or not, that's a controversial statement as most of us here do not like being forced to do pointless and dehumanizing things against our will, particularly with zero scientific evidence supporting it.
All opinions are welcome here and people are respectful provided people are posting in good faith. But you don't get to drop a turd with the a get out of jail free demand that people "don't jump on me". That's not how it works.
Between 2020 and 2022 I have been in hospitals more than I would like. I live in Florida. Land of the free. The medical settings still require it. In those settings I dont mind. I try to rationalize it to feel better. I try to find some logic in all situations, though throughout this so called pandemic, there has been practically no logic, I agree with you all!
If you do, that is fine.
Why all the emotionalism from some others? I like conversations with thoughtful and polite discourse. Sometimes that entails shades of gray.
That is why I said 'dont jump on me'. I know many can only think in black and white.
I did get some rather nice thought provoking responses though.
I also thank you for your post, though I could have done without your last comment. 😉😉
It seems to me you would have to remove the mask to “blow your nose”…what makes more sense is to stay home and/or WASH YOUR HANDS after blowing your nose to prevent spreading. As far as sneezing, you could sneeze into a Kleenex or handkerchief which would do much to prevent spreading. I do this consistently for allergies.
Oh Paula I have to share a kind of funny and gross story. I was using a mask when it was 'required' (in a freakin grocery store) and started to feel the need to sneeze. What was my immediate response? Take off the dang mask!!! In a milli-second I laugh-sneezed and kept my mask on. HOW GROSS IS THAT!?! I thought OMG this is why we wear these, and it's disgusting and NOW WHAT DO I DO?! Luckily in those few moments I wore a mask, I kept extras in my purse. And I always have tissue. And hand sanitizer then.
Your response is unnecessarily rude. I am not four years old. I know all that and practice it. Unfortunately however, as for staying home, unless you lie and say you have covid, the boss says you must still come in.
I have a feeling it may be less about the mask, and more about not wiping with fingers or hand parts that spread it? Just wondering aloud. Are you still using hand sanitizer? I have a friend who works on the floor at a Costco and said that with the masking he didn't get sick like usual either. I forgot to ask him about hand sanitizing. But I think it's much more about HANDS than masks. I'm curious if anyone will be able to back this up.
I have a hand sanitizer right next to me at work. Use it all the time, but you are right that hands play a crucial rule in not transmitting viruses.
I remember when my children were young, I was getting sick all the time. One day at the pediatrician office, my child was sick and so was I. He told me about being meticulous about hand washing and how it would help, especially after a supermarket run! (all those hands of children and adults touching the same cart ).
He was right! After heeding his advice, I rarely got sick again.
I agree about the hand washing. I learned abut that from my mother and have always been careful about it when out in public. And I almost never got sick. Lately I've noticed that all the hand sanitizers and wipes for shopping carts etc. have disappeared in most places. Hopefully people picked up better hand washing habits throughout all this, though.
I think the CDC still has masks in place for medical facilities, and the state of emergency has not been lifted. Nobody is going to go after the FL facilities that don't comply.
Quest Diagnostics still requires it near me, in Florida. Maybe they have to comply with Medicare? Some of my doctors offices have "masks optional" signs now, where before it was mandatory, but unfortunately other doctors still require them.
Angela, you didn’t “had a cold lately”, you caught a cold………through some form of transmission. Aerosol-borne likely, or did you “catch” it from someone else who was or wasn’t wearing a mask? In the end, do you believe masks actually “stop” transmission or are they used more for virtue-signaling? No judgement here, just an ask for your thoughts. Thanks for putting it out there.
Sounds good in principle. Alas the real world is more complex. How about the case of the jailed juror? Did you know that (at least in Florida) if one is summoned for jury duty and fails to appear, one can be hauled off to jail (although, I think that is rare?) In many jobs one only has limited (or no) sick days, and faces firing for failure to appear. Now, it's true that for most such demands a person doesn't risk jail, but there are an endless number of legitimate reasons a sick person might need to leave his home. And finally, there is the dismaying fact that humans are stubborn. Even if they know they are contagious or somehow otherwise pose a risk, a lot of people are bullheaded and will still go out in public.
Sadly, most people demanding a peer reviewed, double blind studies are the same ones falling for the plandemic scare tactics and rolling up their sleeves. Don’t be one of them.
1. Annals of Internal Medicine: "Therefore, evidence for mask use versus nonuse and comparing masks types in health care settings remained insufficient" https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/L20-1292
2. Annals of Internal Medicine: "The recommendation to wear surgical masks to supplement other public health measures did not reduce the SARS-CoV-2 infection rate among wearers by more than 50% in a community with modest infection rates" https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-6817
5. "However, overall there is a lack of substantial evidence to support claims that facemasks protect either patient or surgeon from infectious contamination." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4480558/
6. "No evidence was identified that examined a potential role for surgical face masks in protecting staff from infectious material encountered in the operating room." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK195765/
7. Southern Medical Journal: "There was no reduction in per-population daily mortality, hospital bed, ICU bed, or ventilator occupancy of COVID-19-positive patients attributable to the implementation of a mask-wearing mandate." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8395971/
10. "the difficulties associated with the mask’s use are significantly pronounced in children aged between 3 and 5 years old." https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34591895/
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Asians don't wear masks for these reasons, nor do they do so this regularly, nor do they demand others wear them. Some wear them for the massive pollution on low air quality days, in Japan girls wear them to hide their faces, and sometimes people choose to wear them when they are sick and taking public transportation, for example, as a courtesy to others. It's not demanded by others that people mask up.
I wasnt talking about 'demanding'. I wasnt talking about the judge. I was talking about the many ** hospitals and physicians** offices I have been to here in Florida. It is their decision, not mine.
That was not in my initial post. That was trying to make sense of the medical setting requirements. It is called conversation,( trying to think outside the box, if you will,) with all its thought involved nuances. 😊
Long before COVID, studies showed that masks are useless against the flu virus. We knew this before the pandemic. I'm not "hating on" you. This is simply science.
The problem is, surgical masks were never designed to stop viruses. They are worn in the OR to prevent the surgical personal from contaminating the open wound with large, particulate matter, bodily fluids, etc. By design, they weren't made to stop a virus, so that should not be used for that purpose under any setting, medical or otherwise. The masks are, and always have been, about control and security theater. It's a farce that we still have to wear them in hospitals.
Same as plastic gloves! Infact, I remember how they were first started being used only in restaurant and doctors offices with the onset of AIDS, due to its potential ofcspreading through blood. I found it hideously illogical when people wore them at the beginning of covid.
If anything, unless you are changing them 100x a day, they would spread germs MORE.
this got me to thinking practically...about 'the drip'.....perhaps people still wear them for mostly that large particle droplet prevention, and that more folks actually ARE sick, have colds and whatever, winter nose, and have drippy noses or from many other reasons....my dr of acupuncture friend is still glad to wear the mask due to 'the drip' and so are the grocery employees especially the ones who spend time hovering over the vegetables. I am not advocating it as a solution, but rather trying to understand why folks consent to them and sort of like them...because 'the drip' is an embarrassing human experience and sometimes a sign of ill health/posture as well. Societally we have lost our tolerance for all things that might 'contain germs'. (Party store door handles are of course exempt). About a third of the staff at a large grocery had masks this 2nd week of October. Older shoppers as well, I being one of them who suffers from the drip (I use a hankie, it's a new invention). I happen to have a very serious nose shape and together with my stoopyish posture (i click all the day long after years of a physical job) 'the drip' is something I would like to fix, but with better posture, better health and more looking up at trees. Thanks for talking about 'the drip'; it's ok, sometimes. Gross. But ok. Except maybe now the drip actually does have true baddies in it, nanos and spike gel....so I really don't know what to say, maybe the unvaxxed drip, that has the fewest nanos (from environmental sources incl. breathing the exhalations of the recently or ever vaxxed), we may not really know but I do worry in this direction because it is my job apparently. I am a very proficient worrier indeed. But not masks, hankies instead. Hankies!
I think the masks are false security because people touch them constantly to adjust them and so they are contaminated. If people are sneezing on them or coughing on them or sniffing on them and then touching the masks, then touching something else, I would think that would be a transmission risk more than not wearing one.
I am visiting family in Illinois and went to Saturday Vigil Mass at a rather large church. Maybe it's Illinois' lingering Covid regulations, or maybe it's just that it was a church full of fearful people, but there was such a bizarre display of masking going on. The two greeters were wearing masks. Only one parishioner among the 50 or so present had a mask on. The priest wasn't wearing a mask, until he began to pray over the Eucharist. He put one on at that point, and wore it until the final prayer, when he took it off again briefly. He put it on again to stand by the door and greet the departing parishioners. That was bad enough, but what was worse was the Eucharistic minister who had his mask repeatedly droop below his nose, and kept pulling it up with the same hand he was using to distribute the hosts. Pick up a host, drop it in a parishioner's hand, pull up his mask. Mask slips down as he intones "Body of Christ," so he pulls it up again, over and over. It was the most simultaneously distressing, angering, and darkly amusing experience I have had since this stupid circus began in 2020. I will never visit that parish church again, so help me.
Wow. I have seen similar displays of masking theater in other contexts and I agree with you, it’s at once baffling, infuriating and amusing in a ridiculous sort of way. I am with you though, that display would definitely make me never want to set foot there again. How could one, as a member of the congregation, trust those buffoons to dispense wisdom and good counsel after witnessing their idiocy??
Exactly! This is why I hate getting a server in a restaurant that is wearing a mask- you know they are fiddling with that thing constantly and now they are touching your plates, eating utensils and maybe your food!
Steve Kirsch compiled studies that verify masks PRIOR TO COVID were and are as useless as the jabs in preventing transmission of respiratory pathogens.... Don’t hate on me... I’m just sharing the incomparable indomitable persistent Steve Kirsch’s Herculean commitment to stop the lies and get anyone pushing them to debate his (Steve’s) collection of facts....https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/masks-fail-their-latest-test
It makes even less sense to wear masks in a hospital or physicians office because they know the truth that masks are not effective in preventing a microscopic viral organism and should be following the science. I have 32 years of experience in the healthcare profession so I’ve seen the data but even without the data, it’s not only common sense but also common knowledge by now. If you are sick, stay home.
Unfortunately, the same medical people who insisted on jabs for all their patients are the ones insisting on masking in health care settings. It has not been my experience that physicians and hospital administrators follow anything but the CDC narrative. They certainly don't follow the science.
And that is because Medicaid and Medicare reimbursements are tied to adherence to many of the inept, useless federal agencies such as the FDA, CDC and even the EPA. One of the many ways are healthcare system is broken.
Yes, I learned years ago, when I was doing research about pregnancy and childbirth, that doctors are not scientists and don’t think like scientists by the way they are trained. It takes a long time for new science to trickle down into practice. Like episiotomies being proven not to help but cause harm and even twenty years later, doctors continuing to perform them because that is what their peers were doing and that was what they’d always done.
Yup, i agree, I didn’t have much choice with my firstborn as the nearest birthing center was over an hour and a half away and there were no home birth midwives locally. So I found a great doula and a less interventionist doctor and managed to have a non medicated hospital birth. For my second child, we were in a different city and state so I was able to go to a birthing center and it was such a great choice on so many levels. I wish more people would use midwives snd not be afraid of out of hospital births!
I would never have thought of having a home birth thirty years ago and still might be scared to today, but after being at my daughter's for her last three home births, I have to say that it is a much more humane, healthy, and family-centered experience. And my daughter is so much more in tune with her body and with the whole birthing process. It's really a wonderful thing.
I’m so glad you are open to this! It is scary because we’ve been brainwashed into thinking that pregnancy is a disease to be treated rather than a natural bodily process that generally requires little intervention. Doctors and society have made women think that we cannot handle labor without drugs. And doctors need to always “do something” (much like our government when there is any kind of a problem) even if that something doesn’t really help and may actually create other issues. I know in some cases interventions are necessary but far less than what is currently done. And our outcomes are no better for all the interventions either. It’s really an eye opener once you start looking at the whole system and setup for pregnancy and childbirth.
I am thankful for those doctors out there who still have common sense and integrity!! Wish there were more of them but glad we at least still have a few!
My own intuition is masks would be counterproductive, because they can change breathing patterns. Mask wearing may increase tidal volume - the amount of air inhaled and exhaled in each breath - to compensate for the stale air behind the mask. Deeper breathing would seem to get viral molecules deeper into our respiratory tract and make them more harmful, as we are told that lower respiratory infections are more likely to be harmful than upper respiratory infections.
One observational study out of Europe last spring suggested an increase in C-19 mortality from increased mask wearing. It was statistically significant but not that big: 10-20%. The strength of the study is that it looked at the 2nd COVID wave - a time period chosen because mask wearing policies were already in place before the start of the time period, and not in response to daily/weekly case counts. It is observational data so that is a big limitation.
Megan Mansell wrote a very interesting piece on how it was possible that the virus droplets being forced through the mask material actually might have the effect of making the particles smaller and thus more likely to get deeper into the lungs.
The appropriate "caring for grandma" control here is for the sick person to stay home... self quarantine... when possible. If one can't stay home, one should CHOOSE to avoid harming others WHEN SICK.
The fallacy in your opinion is it has no scientific basis. And a healthy person wearing a mask only helps the mental anxiety of the other. And, sorry, not my responsibility.
BTW, my "opinion" is backed by both scientific studies and the Constitution. What is yours backed by?
And, yes, I understand and respect your plea for calm discussion. But that doesn't mean nobody can disagree with you or ask for facts behind your opinion.
I spent 18 months keeping my factually accurate opinions to myself in face of rude idiots scared out of their wits. Out of respect for grandmas everywhere. That ship has sailed. I'm not allowing even polite bullies to make me do scientifically stupid things. Move to a state where blue science is the norm if you need that, but leave me alone. Please.
Most of us want calm discussion and good faith replies to our comments, I know it annoys me when people twist my words to try and gain some perceived advantage. I have two teenage boys so I completely understand and have plenty of experience with it.
But the mature response to bad faith replies is to call out the commenter and specifically point out the flaws and falsehood in their response. With our resident Ukraine defenders it's like shooting a fish in a barrel, they are so used to dealing with half-wits they have no idea how to respond to logical counter-responses.
What people are reacting to Angela, is your demand that people "don't jump on me" in your initial comment and then immediately throwing that in M VARR's face when he replied respectfully. You don't get to set the rules of the discussion, and declare certain thoughts or questions off-limits. If you think someone is replying dishonestly then reply to them and dissect their comment and tell us why. That's how thoughtful adults debate things.
Most of us are sick and tired of people telling us what we are and aren't allowed to say. That's why you are getting such a visceral reaction Angela, as your comments attempted to limit other's response out of some sort of misplaced politeness. In case you hadn't noticed, that is exactly what got us into the mess of the last few years and is the tactic at the heart of cancel culture (i.e. your opinions may hurt my feelings so you aren't allowed to say them).
Wow! I just didnt want people's emotional outbursts, which I got from *some*. That us what is at the heart of everything bad today: emotionalism. That is what our propaganda media has done to us. That is what this venue of the internet writing has done to us. The art of conversation with its back and forth nuances has died.
I understand that. And it is hard to “hear” tone and easy to misconstrue intent on this kind of platform, which can make discussions touchy sometimes. I appreciate that you are willing to put your thoughts out there and discuss them.
I think the thing is, many in the medical field are the ones using emotions into manipulating people to wear masks. They know people need to see their friends and family or get medical care, so they will comply because they can’t risk not getting access. There is no science supporting mask wearing (especially cloth and surgical masks that are not tested and fitted) for the prevention of respiratory illness. I think some of the reactions you are getting is because the medical community has manipulated people into believing masks do something when they don’t. Thus perpetuating the lie. And your initial statement made it sound like you thought that because medical centers still require masks to be worn, there might be some valid reason for that. There isn’t. At all. And it is exasperating how well the sheep in the medical field have stuck to this totally unscientific protocol and how they’ve been able to convince people that the practice is justified. I think what you’re hearing is a lot of frustration about how well the propaganda campaign has worked and how hard it is to convince people that masks don’t work. I hope that makes sense.
Enabling is not an effective strategy. I am worn out from trying to protect someone’s feeling. This is petty but no one tried to protect my feeling during this debacle, demonic experience. Sound selfish, not going to apologize but I will reflect.
I do recommend looking at mask studies done from before COVID (if they haven't all been retconned at this point) because the findings are fascinating. In essence, they truly don't work in limiting the spread of respiratory viruses. As you noted below, large droplets can be caught by masks, that's true - but they aren't the driving force in the spread of respiratory viruses. Also, fascinating studies done of using masks in surgical theatres with equally unimpressive outcomes. Again, they catch large droplets contaminants, but saw no difference in rate of post-op infections.
As for Asians - they are a masking culture and I don't know if they did it more previously because they felt masking provided a filter for poor air quality or if they were motivated to reduce illness. I really, really don't want to encourage a masking culture AT ALL. It is deeply dehumanizing. There is a reason the CCP can control the Chinese population so easily.
Had dinner with my acupuncture doctorate teacher friend yesterday. The Acupuncture in school is still all masked up, and the Dr. said they are fine with it. I did try to explain about the 'mosquito and tennis racquet' analogy, but they said they are not getting colds like they regularly do so the masks must be helping. Dunno what to say to that, except that IF they DO get a cold, that mask is going to start hurting them in a hurry, and the sad fact that the masks are known to have some bad shizz embedded in them, further enhancing respiratory lung issues, nanos and who knows what else, dioxins....when the medicos (both eastern and western) are this dumb?, what to do....best NAB
Exactly right! Some doctors have actually come out and said that Covid is a lot less dangerous and deadly than the flu, but that is not something that mass media will promote.
For everyone’s information, Mask-wearing is STILL required for nonjabbed employees where my daughter works (RN @ Arizona hospital), which, as you note, is discrimination between jabbed and unjabbed.
Really makes ya wonder about the ability of the hospital decision makers - what other poor decisions are they making? Do they not realize that the jabbed are just as likely as the unjabbed to transmit? I've read these studies for months (long before this week's revelation) and I don't presume to have a medical or scientific background. Disappointing that "the experts" can't figure out this logical, common sense information - backed by science!!
This all was apparent as soon as fully vaxxed people were getting infected with and transmitting Delta, which was known in the summer of 2021. At that point, it should have been a personal medical decision (what it always should have been anyway!). The fact that it wasn't and that they continued with mandates shows that this was not about the science at all but about control.
So they are NOT requiring masks for jabbed employees? That would surprising. I haven't been in a hospital in Arizona, but I have been in many in Texas and they universally require masks for ALL employees. One hospital briefly changed their policy to only require masks in patient care areas, but pretty quickly snapped it back to everybody everywhere.
I was thinking of that when I had to wear a mask and my transmitting coworkers didnt. I thought of that when you weren't allowed into any venue in nyc without a vaccine card, and a mask wasnt even an option.
Where were the discrimination lawsuits?? 🤔
The last two years were a nightmare and in many countries they still are, and even here in some work places because of evil, vaccine coercion.
Those damned satanic vaccines, in my opinion, were the greatest evil ever.
I spent two years of my life not knowing if I could ever travel to see my children, ever go back to the city of my birth, ever be able to keep my job, ever be able to have a conversation with a friend or relative without hearing them brag about their covid vaccine, etc...so masks were not as great a concern for me as the poison shots. My daughter's obstetrician just tried to push the poison on her (and her preborn baby)for a 3rd time in her pregnancy! AT 8 MONTHS! What kind of sick unhinged democrat insanity is this? Are they so ignorant about all the truth which is finally leaking out about them?!
While masks unnerve so many, *justifiably*, the death and sickness injections are still being pushed and that is what personally freaks me out!!
I understand that and many people also have told me the same thing. But, I have to agree with what some have said, that the masks were just the gateway, the first step in coercion and since that worked so well, they moved on to the jabs. In my opinion, if we had all just said no from the very beginning, it would never have gotten as far as it did. Lesson learned though (for me at least). I will never follow any of these kinds of mandates ever again.
I am so sorry for all of the mental anguish you have endured, that all of us nonconformists have endured, these past two and a half years 😢 I hope the tide is turning and those responsible will somehow be made to pay for their crimes.
I did have 2 friends in NYC who died from covid very early on. So I guess that clouded my thoughts on masking. However, I now wonder if they died from the actual virus or the intubation It makes me hopping mad every time I read of another healthy young person's sudden death here or in some foreign news sites I follow.
The brightest glimmer of sanity I have heard is from Florida's surgeon general advising against the shot for young people.
Correct. Jabbed don’t have to constantly mask; unjabbed do. Firsthand info from my RN daughter. Now, if another employee starts to warn her to pull her mask up from below her chin, she gives them the evil eye, and then they usually back off.
My husband is a doctor in Michigan, and his hospital (which owns his practice) required everyone to wear a mask and unjabbed to wear N-95s. This was based on the CMS vaccine mandate. He started out wearing an N-95, but it was so uncomfortable all day (because they're test-fitted and tight!). Plus, his elderly patients couldn't understand what he was saying. Eventually, he just wore a surgical mask and expected to be reprimanded in some way, but that never happened. Anyway, everyone, including patients, at the hospital or its affiliated medical practices has to wear a mask even now, and most employees think it will never go away.
It’s not even recommended that anyone wear a N-95 all day. It’s too bad more physicians and healthcare professionals didn’t refuse to go along with this unscientific practice from the beginning.
Another potential Problem with Masks: Reduced Viral Interference
If we inhale hundreds of thousands to millions of virions every minutes, and if most of these viruses are benign, and if they interfere/ compete with each other, then reducing overall virus exposure will also reduce exposure to benign but interfering/ competing viruses, thus canceling any benefit.
Perhaps this situation explains why even suffocating N95 Respirators vs surgical masks did not reduce influenza infections in this 2019 randomized controlled trial among medical workers.
Remember what Ford said about color cars? Anybody can chose the color they like as long as it is black. Agree we are entitled to our opinion, but some only look at it as “you are entitled to your opinion AS LONG AS IT IS THE SAME AS MINE”!
It’s one thing to have a mask be optional *in all settings, including medical*, but the mandatory masking at my doctor’s office absolutely infuriates me.
I leave after an appointment with a terrible headache, from breathing my own CO2. And I have accompanied both my parents to chemotherapy on multiple occasions (pre-covid, obviously), with NO ISSUES. This virtue signaling, controlling behavior drives me nuts.
Wearing a mask to prevent the mucus and other large droplets from infecting your coworkers is very considerate.
I really hope I would be brave like Mr Hahn, he’s very inspiring!
Yes. That is indeed at the heart of all the lies, coercion, mandates, and pain the NWO globalist elites and their right hand party in the US, the democrat party, have been thrusting upon us. They made no qualms of hiding it at the WEF when they said the pandemic would help the global reset agenda.
Eric - I have read articles and watched many a documentary which also explained that as well as the pollution aspect, there is a huge proportion of people, especially young adults, who like wearing masks as an “accessory” of sorts to hide their faces when they don’t “feel they look their best” or don’t want to put the effort in to get ready or wear makeup, and also many wear them in an effort to hide their faces from the constant CCTV surveillance. Can’t have social credit deducted if it can’t recognize your face. Americans see a mask in Asia and immediately assume it’s just being used for a “medical” purpose and that is definitely not the case.
Indeed. I definitely found the surveillance aspect of Asian masking quite interesting, especially when you understand that any deemed “infraction” not only can affects your credit score, but can affect your families scores as well. I would think they are highly in tune and sensitive to this.
Yeah the interesting aspect was with the younger generations saying things like, “I like that I don’t have to show my teeth”, or “I wear one when I don’t want to put on makeup”, or even women saying that it stopped men from catcalling them on the street and no one would annoyingly tell them to “smile” during conversations. This particular article was written by someone who grew up in Asia and was telling you that the masking culture there is very much highly psychological, ingrained in nature and not all medical/pollution. The scary part was once our citizens had been wearing them for so long and the propaganda was set in, you then literally started hearing the EXACT same rhetoric coming out of our teens and people over here in America about how they enjoy them for hiding their faces and emotions from other people. Very dangerous.
Agree Julia C and Eric. I even read an analysis about how masks had started to make people in Japan consider the face a private part of the body and feel uncomfortable showing it.
Yeah I think there is way more of a psychological component going on over there with masking than most Americans have been privy to or will admit to themselves now. They just want to use them as a wonderful example of how great a forever masking culture can be. No thanks.
To tag on: I read an Asian model has a following for her in demand designer masks. The caveat is to learn to dress the very feminine eyes and focus on expression more than face.
I regret, I do not recall her name. Yet, it’s quite remarkable.
I always say if 1 mask is good, then 2 must be better. 😉😄 I am sick of maskers. I don't care why they wear them anymore. I just smile big and look at them with amusement.
You are correct about poor air quality in many of the world's mega-cities. A mask might provide some protection, since much of harmful air pollution is particulates. You tangentially touch on another factor: Asian nations far more homogeneous than the West, and as such have much stronger shared culture, values and behavior. That doubtlessly extends to mask wearing. For whatever reason, there are proportionally lots more herd followers in the Far East.
Please reread my post. I think you all are assuming things about what I said rather than what I actually said!
From what I have been told by thise who have lived there, they also wear masks in crowded spaces out of caution for viruses. Just CLARIFYING NOT AGREEING.
It’s all about power. Reminds me of my theater friends who insist on the audience being masked while the actors are mask free. One actually said we perform for your benefit and it’s your duty to keep us safe. Who are you kidding? You’re on stage to feed your ego! Gimme a break, you’re not that precious.
We had the opposite, only unvaxxed were asked to mask (but no one checked status) and the adult actors didn’t wear masks but the child actors did (clear ones) 😞 It was so stupid and unreasonable. And it made it hard to hear the child actors as well.
🙄 I currently perform with a group that is scripturally based, so there’s none of this silliness going on. And it has the added benefit of serving a higher purpose. I have been basically banned from other groups because of my healthcare decisions, because a hobby should not determine my health. But really, I’ve been banned for thinking differently. I feel sorry for those kids. The adults should be ashamed of themselves. All they are doing is teaching kids to fear life.
So... Jeff.... How can a judge... be it “his kingdom” or not disregard the constitutional rights of a U.S. citizen?! Oh...., how Forest Gump of me... our constitutional rights ended on March 11, 2020... Lockdown Day ( arguable waaaaay before).... but just for argument sake, if we still have a constitution hidden in a woke closet somewhere under a pile of dusty musty mildewed law books.... isn’t the Judge sworn to uphold the constitution ... under Section 242 of Title 18 which makes it a crime for a person “acting under color of any law” to willfully deprive a person of a right or privilege protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States."
"For the purpose of Section 242, acts under "color of law include acts not only done by federal, state, or local officials within their lawful authority, but also acts done beyond the bounds of that official's lawful authority, if the acts are done while the official is purporting to or pretending to act in the performance of his/her official duties.
"The offense is punishable by a range of imprisonment up to a life term, or the death penalty, depending upon the circumstances of the crime, and the resulting injury, if any."
Well said, Maureen. I tried to call his office or courthouse to tell him what I thought of his beavior. I had the numbers but most wouldn't take a message. I decided since Tucker Carlson had called him out I didn't need to.
And also, if he is giving orders for medical interventions shouldn’t he at least be a medical practitioner?? Isn’t that akin to practicing medicine without a license?
Excuse me for using your comment to comment on this thread.
Being the last word freak that I am.
This thread reminds me of the child's game where one sentence is whispered into the next person in the circle. By the time it gets back around it has no resemblance to the original.
Regardless of one's faith, or religious beliefs--"Superspreader" is a documentary that people should see for inspiration. Minister and musician-Sean Feucht led the way in challenging the state when the Churches were told they couldn't hold worship services--and "no singing allowed!" His courageous non-compliance spread across the nation, inspiring other Christians and churches to challenge authority. Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uam-xmFz2cc
I have to admit that last year I bowed out of jury duty solely because I didn't want to be stuck there wearing a mask all day. I filled out the acknowledgment form that I was needed to care for my minor child, which is true, but normally I would make arrangements to be able to do jury duty. No thanks, not as long as they are requiring masks.
Good grief, I live a couple of counties over from Harnett County, NC! Unbelievable! There needs to be a lawsuit against this judge. How can his actions be lawful?
Jeff's rare dark humor makes the tyranny we are all living through more bearable. I have no idea how he puts out this brilliant newsletter every day, but I pray he never stops.
So showing the maskless vet who is boss is much more important than making sure the single man's child knows where his/her dad is, why he is not coming home, and ensuring that the child is not worrying and is safe and sound? Why am I surprised when it is always the children that get hurt when decisions are made by the radical left?
“Hold fast to that which is good…” In these times of hellish debauchery, we may have to look a little harder to find the good, but we will if we look up and focus on doing these other things as we rest in His promises:
“We urge you, brethren, admonish the unruly, encourage the fainthearted, help the weak, be patient with everyone. See that no one repays another with evil for evil, but always seek after that which is good for one another and for all people. Rejoice always; pray without ceasing; in everything give thanks; for this is God’s will for you in Christ Jesus. Do not quench the Spirit; do not despise prophetic utterances. But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good; abstain from every form of evil. Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you entirely; and may your spirit and soul and body be preserved complete, without blame at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. Faithful is He who calls you, and He also will bring it to pass.”
My faith in Christ is the only thing that keeps me going through this. That same faith requires me to speak out against injustice and stand up for the vulnerable. Thank you for your encouragement.
But sadly, I have Christian friends who are still totally brainwashed, in fact, one of my biggest disappointments is that my pastors will not speak out on this and I feel as if others want me to be quiet also. Eric Metaxas has written a good book entitled, Letter to the American Church. He says if the church doesn't begin to speak out against the totalitarianism, we are going to look back and find we were complicit in allowing terrible evil. I personally don't intend to be quiet.
Amen to Janice and Anne! To be silent is to be complicit! God has not given us a spirit of fear but of courage! I was an absentee election worker at one of the area nursing homes this past week. The notice on the door to the facility said that masks were required. I ignored it even though my democratic team member complied and not one word was said to me by the staff. None of the patients were wearing masks. The sad thing is that over half of the area facilities require the shot to enter. I am no longer helping with those facilities.
I see the connection between FBI and Epstein as an informant... Epstein gave the FBI information on who to blackmail so those folks would do the bidding of the puppet masters. And now we understand some of the odd decisions and direction policy makers have made in the past that made us scratch our heads - other than just being 100% mentally deranged.
The 3 Letters protected, aided and abetted Epstein and Maxwell (and her father) to obtain blackmail on everyone. The number and names of people are very extensive.
No one can/will speak out, for fear they will be “suicided” too. It must be like a secret fear club. And so the child trafficking/sexual abuse continues.
Epstein was clearly working for Mossad as well, but then again FBI might as well stand for “Federal Bureau of Israel”. There are many forms of treason, but working for Israel is the chosen form.
I’m shocked that not ONE other juror stood up to this tyrannical judge. This is perhaps the most shocking thing about the past few years. Brainless sheeple. Shocking. Can we multiply whoever goes up against this horrible judge
Exactly. Imagine if every potential juror would have refused the mask. THAT is the only way to stop this evilness. Not one outlier out of many. Otherwise, it’ll never stop.
None of this is about wisdom. It's basically elite cartels fighting for control over us, like mafia families in NYC. The government agencies are enforcement arms that sometimes change leadership...
It's not about wisdom or consent. It's about ruining a vulnerable person's life as quickly and early as possible. If they can get a teen to consent to an irreversible procedure, disfiguring and painful surgery and permanent infertility, then they will be messed up for life and more likely to kill themselves or at least spread their confusion to others. The devil seeks the destruction of anybody he can get his hands on.
The more I think about the transgender movement, the more I lean towards the idea that this movement is about sterilization and population control. All these poor transgender souls will never know the indescribable joy of bringing life into this world and caring for your child. And on top of this, when they will realize how they were used as children to commit atrocities against themselves, it will make their lives and view of adults even more unbearable.
Another reason to not trust doctors anymore. While the nurse will always ask what medications you take, when your physician prescribes something else for you, he/she will never consider the possible drug interactions.
Because doctors are mostly drug pushers today ( with some other possible redeeming qualities of humanity here and there), it is up to the patient to research or ask their druggist about interactions.
It is all so complicated, and so many patients dont know that they should do this, and then it is too late.
This drug interaction has been well known from the beginning. My husband is a doctor and never prescribed Paxlovid (unless the patient insisted, which some did) because of the manifold drug interactions and also the COVID rebound. It is particularly bad for the vaccinated, on which it was not tested--it was tested only on the unvaccinated, if I remember correctly.
No, you're right. Most of his colleagues dispensed Paxlovid to almost everyone. Interestingly, he had a new PA working under his observation, and the PA told him that he'd stopped prescribing Paxlovid to his patients because they were all getting rebound COVID! Smart guy!
Especially when they are prescribing untested mystery meds. "Just take this and we'll see what happens...." Oh well, the FDA said it's okay, so there's that.
The drug interactions are well communicated to doctors. Doctors may be all about pushing the pharma products they are told to, but they are not all about being sued and disregarding drug interactions is a good way to get sued.
You might think a safer approach would be to use Ivermectin, which has no drug interactions and has been shown to be quite effective as an early covid treatment. But NOOOO, that would be silly. Better to give the one Dr. Fauci says to and temporarily stop all the other medications old and infirm patients are taking to keep them alive, and make sure not to restart them too early because of the covid rebound and second Paxlovid course they will need.
Quote for the day; “Poor Charlie! Life can be SO unfair sometimes. I blame climate change. Please keep Hurricane Ian victim Charlie Crist in your thoughts today, while you’re doing your bathroom business.” Thanks for the laugh. :)
The trans agenda people are demonic… they’re actively going after minors.
It’s absolutely predatory!!!
A large percent of these kids will desist… if society and American Culture- teachers and doctors- would stop shoving it down their throats trying to encourage and normalize it all!
I recently saw this picture- it said
-don’t be your child’s first bully-
And it was a set of parents standing behind a young child with rainbow pride wings
And the parents were holding scissors clipping the child’s rainbow colored wings 🤨
As you dissect culturally
How we arrived at this deranged moment… where cutting off the genitals of children is the thing parents are supposed to do to save their child from certain suicide…
I believe the framework for this was laid during the ‘anti bullying campaigns’ started in schools
On the surface
Sure anti bullying sounded good- like a good thing
BUT- what’s actually happening
Is it’s created a school culture where ‘anything goes’ and you aren’t allowed to say anything about anything or anyone…
if you’re a boy and you wanna show up to school in long fake nails, long fake eyelashes, glam eye makeup, a tube top, a mini skirt, and a long black wig…
No one is gonna say a word to you at school - not the kids and not the administration- because that would be bullying!
And so these confused kids- who have been swept up in this ‘gender revolution’- (and many are special needs children I might add- who have extreme difficulty with social connectedness and knowing what’s appropriate and what’s not socially) who are making these social missteps are never called to task to self correct- they are only EMBOLDENED and reinforced at schools!
My husband and I, although 71 and 70 years of age, have begun helping teach students at our church because we are burdened by these forces of evil that are coming after our children. One of my girls, a tenth grader, told me that there are boys walking around her public school wearing "tails." They're furries, or pretending to be. I can't believe we've reached the point where this nonsense is allowed.
Wearing tails is the sort of thing kids do when they are 3 or 4, but even then wise parents chuckle at the PRETEND play of their children. Even older children who dress up as an animal for Halloween or a school event have ALWAYS *known* that they were simply wearing a COSTUME and that underneath they were still a boy or a girl HUMAN.
Accommodating these kids coddles them, to say the least. Grow up and become an adult HUMAN. For crying out loud.
I don’t even know where to begin saying how absurd, harmful, childish, foolish, and downright wrong it is for adults to be tolerating this for even one tiny nanosecond.
And those people you speak of want to keep their heads buried in the sand..like they have through the decades about the snowballing debasing and perversion of the culture...how college dorms have been like bordellos (male and female) and drunken bars for decades, how schools have been promoting lgbtq with clubs since the 90s, how series on netflix show soft porn, men kisding men and more, women with women, trans people scarred by their parents not celebrating it, etc. Instagram practically nude posing, and Kardashian values (her mom made them famous by deliberately leaking Kims sex tape), and so much else
THIS is reality. This is what the gvt promotes in exchange for subsidies, this is everywhere. Even our church youth have to deal with this, and despite the influence of church groups and faith filled parents, the demonic culture is quite strong in its influence. It is pervasive. Never underestimate it.
Lord have mercy on our country and the collective west.
I can't help but think that perhaps the "love of the creatures more than the love of the Creator" has helped create this incredible spiral into the abyss. Do children find their parents more loving to their pets than their own children that they snuggle and take everywhere with them while sending offspring of to school to be hated, bullied, and exploited? I see their fb posts. It offends me, a stranger!
Or a boy can show up in your girls’ locker room identifying as a girl but sitting there looking like a boy and leering at the girls in various stages of undress. Then when the girls complain, THEY get accused of “hate” and bullying 🙄🙄🙄😡😡😡
Yes, that exact story is what I was referring to, even though I didn’t mention it specifically (too lazy to go find the link to the article where I had read about it). Thank you for the link!
An interesting comment re the bullying. You probably have a really good point.
Nobody can say anything that “offends” anybody else. Well, unless you are a cross-dressing giant-boob-wearing student or teacher… then, it matters not that YOUR appearance and demeanor offend half of the student body. Or if your daughter’s teacher suggests that because she likes to wear short hair and ride mountain bikes or hike and fish and camp that maybe she is really a boy, and your daughter takes offense. Well, THAT kind of bullying is now okay, I guess.
How can a child brought up with Christian values and concept of sin even survive in a public school. What will happen if said child says 'mommy says that our religion doesnt accept homosexual marriage'. They will probably be harshly reprimanded.
It’s really hard to comprehend why Christian families keep their KIDS in these unfortunate cesspools.
A neighbor was considering homeschooling because of it. But this year her school building has new leadership and things are better. (She works in the school building so undoubtedly knows better than many.). But, what about next year? Or the year after that? And what about when the kids are in middle school?
It’s a heckuva lot easier to ease into homeschooling in elementary school than in middle or high school.
Our family has been SO THANKFUL for our freedom to homeschool. It is a blessing. In many ways. I cannot recommend it enough.
TED refused to air an erudite and informational talk about homeopathy in Africa by a woman who is successfully working with AIDS patients (successfully, as in people go from bedridden and wasting to working and feeding their families), but this gets the green light. Okay, then,
TED was always squarely mainstream, and has been pushing the climate malarkey and other WEF-associated agendas forever. Sometimes a good talk that fits inside the approved boundaries gets out, like ones by Brené Brown or Vanessa Van Edwards, but overall it’s just a slightly less smug version of NPR.
2021, I got jury summons, but they cancelled... Got another one... I called and said I don't wear masks... They were going to try to put me in zoom call...it was cancelled. I wouldn't have taken pcr bullshit test.. Too close to my EXQUISITE mind, for ine
I hope that judge faces prison for attacking north Carolina man.
Btw, a jury might have 10 idiots. But 2 would NEVER CONVICT
Did you hear that on Thursday fed gvnmt extended pandemic's status as a public health emergency for another 90 days, thereby preserving measures like high payments to hospitals and expanded Medicaid? Are we still in emergency??!! I thought the pandemic was over. It’s just amazing how things work these days. They won’t rest until they milk this thing for an agenda. It’s disgusting.
Big props to the juror who is about Science over Compliance regarding covid masks.
But how about the other jurors... I guess they just muzzled up? Come on peeps, we gotta fight this crap!
Steve Kirsch compiled studies that verify masks PRIOR TO COVID were and are as useless as the jabs in preventing transmission of respiratory pathogens.... Don’t hate on me... I’m just sharing the incomparable indomitable persistent Steve Kirsch’s Herculean commitment to stop the lies and get anyone pushing them to debate his (Steve’s) collection of facts....https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/masks-fail-their-latest-test
It seems to me that the judge was more about control. Also it figures that he was a hate filled democrat and that this was a political reaction. Not allowing the man to call his children, and putting him in jail instead of dismissing him was beyond logical.
In Florida here: all hospitals and doctor offices still want it, and I dont personally mind in *those settings*. Whatever. 🤷The Asians have been doing it forever. Maybe viruses and flu can be controlled a bit this way? If it can help that in *MEDICAL* settings where people are already sick or immuno-compromised then so be it.
I *DID* mind when it was required/COMPULSARY by workplaces to discriminate between vaccinated and non vaccinated.
I DID mind when like the judge, it is a political statement!!
For me, vaccines are a worse story.. For me, that was pure draconian evil.
Dont jump on me. We are all entitled to our opinion.
Viruses and flu can be controlled a bit this way.
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If you have a link to a scientific peer reviewed double blind study that lends credence to your assertion, please share it. Thanks.
https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-6817
That is since covid. Google with time restriction pre 2019 and the world of study on the futility of community masking is your oyster! While there, do a little search for the physical and mental health problems with masking. You will be shocked I think. Maybe you would (for our edification) include a link to a scientific peer reviewed double blind study that lends credence to masking being a social and health benefit. I am willing to read it.
Masks we have been forced to wear are meant to keep spittle out of the patient's bodies during operations. What they are used for now is a crutch for the mentally ill. Wake up M Varr.
I managed -- somehow -- to commute on stuffed subway cars during the winter, up close and personal with sneezers, coughers, nose blowers -- and when I tell you I cannot remember the last cold or flu I've had, I mean it. I can also tell you that virtually every co-worker in my small department lined up for the "flu" shots -- and who was the one who was never sick with the flu?
Can someone please explain this to me??
Masks. Yeah. Right.
Same
😊 New York City and Boston subways. For years.
I dont.
I said 'dont jump on me' for my opinion. It is from observation for *medical settings*.
I didnt make the rules. They do.
However, I had a cold recently at work. There was no way I could control sneezing or blowing my nose. I felt terrible because I knew that without a mask (I wasnt wearing one) one of my coworkers would catch it. Two did.
When we were wearing masks back in 2020, again I had a cold. No one caught it. Just observation. Perhaps that is why *medical settings* in Florida, a FREE RED STATE still require it? We are all entitled to our opinions with respect, or we become no better or less hateful than that *demoncrat* politically motivated judge.
Angela, this is only my observation but during my professional life I was required to be “fit-tested” for an N-95 mask yearly because I was told that “masks cannot stop viruses, not even minimally”. This was drilled into my head. Imagine my surprise when all this was suddenly and forcefully reversed! No supporting studies, no data, just mr. fauci asserting the necessity. And 25 years of OSHA studies scrubbed from their .gov website. It was then when the lightbulb got switched on for me personally. It wasn’t about infection. At all. The only concern I have for your viewpoint is that it encourages the continuing influence of fear among people. Fear of human contact, free interaction. Fear that unintentionally and perhaps unconsciously becomes magnified so that the presence or absence of a mask determines one’s social behavior. It has had such a negative impact on our children, and our society in general that it really ought to be avoided. It is part of the healing that we must do.
Credenda - glad you noticed all the hypocrisy too! Especially with OSHA, like seriously…double, nay, triple facepalm on that one. When I worked in nursing, every year we had to take an infection control and procedures test. Same test, year after year. Every year it would ask us what the top tier of universal precautions was and every year it was the same…hand washing! Nothing on that test about masking procedures because in my area, family practice, they never applied to us despite us being the ones who were seeing all the patients with strep, influenza, colds, etc. How many hundreds and hundreds of people have I swapped throats for strep and flu over 12 years and never was a mask worn. I worked through the entire H1N1 pandemic, immunocompromised to boot, and we never wore a mask. None of the doctors gave two craps either that I was immunocompromised, wasn’t even mentioned or a thought in their heads. The whole pandemic was just business as usual. In 12 years I got sick with Fifth’s Disease once, which my nephew gave me outside clinic, and strep and influenza each once which I could have gotten from a patient but, could very well have also gotten from one of my nephews or nieces too. At work, I washed my hands a hundred times a day, it’s just what we did, not masking. People now have it in their heads that we should mask forever for cold and flu seasons as if all this new information suddenly was brought to light because of COVID and now that we know better we can do the correct thing. Yeah no, we had all the information but then these government agencies needed something to appear to the public like they were “doing something” and the masking was such an easy thing to have propagandized. They literally got an entire country to fear the unmasked face. I still know people who won’t stop masking outside. They literally live, in October 2022, where like 99% of people are not masking anymore yet they still believe their mask is having a meaningful difference to “protect others”. That’s the problem with the healthcare facilities. I’m spending 100% of my time without a mask on my face. I go to grocery stores, my sisters home, the local fair, restaurants, I don’t even wear one during my Remicade infusions because I managed to get exemption for that one place, yet somehow the 30 minutes I wear one to my neurology follow up is supposed to save me somehow? Please.
Funniest thing is seeing photos of celebrities in NYC wearing masks outdoors!
Chuckle for the day:
Sign on a workman's truck I saw here in Florida:
If you are wearing a 😷 mask alone in your car, you dont need a Biden bumper sticker. I already know that you voted for him!
Yes yes yes a thousand times yes to your posts Credenda and Julia C!!! The actual science and data never justified any of this and yet people have been convinced that it might help so we should still do it. No and no. But it is an uphill battle to undo the damage from the constant propaganda over the past two years 😕
Yes undoing this is going to take a while for sure. I was pleasantly surprised when I went to my dentist the other day that they finally got rid of the masks. I pulled into the parking lot and my spidey senses immediately perked up…”the mask sign is gone off the door.” But when I asked the hygienist what finally made them flip the switch, she said, “well I think it was cause at this point we figured that everyone is just taking their masks off when they get into the rooms for their treatments and spending all that time not wearing them so…” Um….that is how your office has been operating the WHOLE pandemic! 🤦🏻♀️ Clearly she had no clue why they actually decided to change their policy but decided that since that they had, NOW logic could suddenly enter the picture? Ok then.
Clearly logic has been missing since this "pandemic" started!
Never wore a mask to the dentist this whole time - for the same reason. Admittedly, they had a "temp check/questions" screening before anyone went into the office, but seriously - we're in there the whole time with our mouth wide open. What is a mask supposed to do? Sadly, I think that was pushed on them from the state in order to be open. I didn't even notice they had a "mask required sign" until sometime in 2021 - and then it was gone and practice is back to normal.
So silly. Our dentist office is the same; mask in the waiting room, mask off in exam room...of course
I searched for quite awhile until I found a dentist who wasn’t mask-stupid.
Took effort but never have worn one for 18 months.
It’s been a bit of a challenge for me as I have over 10 specialists in three states so, there’s so many policies and providers to deal with. I just haven’t been able to escape it or get them to engage in any meaningful discussion about masking. I mentioned somewhere on here that I did get an exemption for my Remicade infusion treatments but, I had to actually involve the acting hospital president and find one of my doctors to write a note which was a pain, the actual infusion center office manager did NOT want me going maskless. I still do have to pull the mask up every time the nurse enters the room, it was the only accommodation they would do. I’m at the point though where since CDC updated it’s recommendations, I of course don’t care a fig what they say but it’s what the hospitals go by obviously, that every facility/office that doesn’t start changing their policy and looks to be a forever masking place is going to start getting requests/letters from me filing for a permanent exemption. It’s just a daunting task to think of doing all that mental work when I’m already brain fogged and dealing with enough as it is. Speaking of dentists though, my sister went to a dentist for the first time in a while and not only was there no masks, she said he was engaging in conversation about the COVID propaganda and how bad it’s been and my sister said “he also wanted to be sure I would never vote for Biden.” 🤣 I bet that dentist has lost a patient or two, but I also bet he hasn’t given two craps about it either!
Yeah the waiting room and hallway masking was basically their attempt to show they were trying to be “part of the solution” because when you venture into your actual visit, you’re just going to spend all that time unmasked around a bunch of other unmasked patients so, seriously what good did they honestly think 5-10 minutes masked in the waiting room would do? In my dental office they don’t even have doors on the exam rooms. They are just separate little spaces separated by walls with open air flow into the hallway that can just then also travel into the next rooms. You are sitting I would guess about 10 feet away from your neighbor. They also never cared if you took your mask off immediately when you got in the room or for visits that didn’t even consist of any dental work. I had an entire jaw issue consult with dentist and the minute I started talking she told me I could take it off. So they literally only were utilizing them for the your hallway trip and the interaction within the waiting room to alleviate other patients anxiety so they wouldn’t have to see unmasked faces. That’s why healthcare still won’t get rid of them. Science or case counts or hospital numbers etc. has nothing to do with it, they know that people have been conditioned to be scared of unmasked faces in healthcare settings.
Julia C- Amen to everything you said! I find it crazy that something that would have been seen as abnormal prior to 2020, is now widely accepted everywhere, and still FORCED on us by some "heath care" professionals and offices. If some folks out there still feel reassured by the masks, OK fine, let them wear it, but leave the rest of us alone.
Seriously, if my doctors want to be ridiculous and wear them for the rest of the their lives and I have to never see their faces again, I’ve gotten to the point where I just don’t care and I’m like, so be it. But you can’t force me to do this forever and I will not. I was injured by a mask, since I have POTS they exacerbated a whole bunch of symptoms and I ended up having a hypoperfusion stressor, passed out, and had a brain injury. I had two months of immediate slurred speech and now two years later, I’m still dealing with vocal cord dysfunction that I need speech therapy for that I can’t get, because they won’t let me go without a mask! I also have something called MCAS which causes you to react to smells and chemicals and the polypropylene plastic in the masks make me sick. My doctors don’t care and I have to don the very intervention that injured me in order to seek follow up care for the consequences of that exact injury! It’s been a friggin nightmare. I refuse to have all virtual care because it’s limited and most of my offices stopped offering it anyway. After the CDC changed its “recommendations” again for the healthcare settings and my primary care facility still was requiring them, I’m in New England which is always in the “red zone” so we will never be told we can stop wearing masks here…I told my primary that I’m NOT doing this forever and that everyone is going to have to start to giving me some more concessions. I only have an exemption for my Remicade infusions right now. Of course she was just silent. I seriously believe that because up here we are a very vaccinated/boostered area, it’s just keeping us in that red transmission zone rating perpetually. But for the other rating system they use for hospitalization/deaths, we’ve been low/green for ages. It’s time to be done with it, definitely with forcing patients to wear one if they don’t want to.
Julia- that is awful! I'm so sorry for what you have gone through. I, too have autoimmune diseases and know a lot about the conditions that you have. They have no right to do that to you and cause you further injury. I keep praying that the world wakes up, before it's too late.
I personally would like to see consequences for them, retribution for the harm they’ve caused!!
Ugh this makes me so absolutely infuriated on your behalf!!! This is completely unacceptable and unconscionable!! I hate hearing people say “it’s no big deal” because for many people it IS a big deal!! I always feel lightheaded wearing a mask and my nose runs and my throat gets scratchy. Once I was at a medical office in the fall of 2020 and felt woozy and like I couldn’t breathe wearing a cloth mask. When they took my blood pressure, it was sky high. I NEVER have issues with that. This was the first time in my life my blood pressure was crazy high. I asked if I could take the mask off and they said yes (it was a functional medicine office so I think they only complied as much as they felt they had to). A few minutes later after I had been breathing freely, my blood pressure was down quite a bit. All those experiences plus the numerous studies and articles I have read about masks, have led me to think that they were not as was claimed, a no risk intervention. Clearly your experience shows the same.
When people say “Oh just stop complaining, it’s no big deal, I wear a mask all day and it doesn’t bother me.” My response is: “We’re not all the same. People react differently. This is akin to telling someone with a peanut allergy, ‘It’s no big deal, why are you bring such a baby, I don’t have any problems eating peanuts!’”
Having that thing on your face changes your normal breathing patterns. You’re taking deeper more shallow breaths to try and accommodate for having something covering your face and it can cause all sorts of issues, especially for more vulnerable people. I’m sitting here with Crohn’s, a connective tissue disorder, POTS, and mast cell disorder, my autonomic nervous system which controls my breathing is faulty and I’m having healthy people scoff at me cause “they can wear one just fine”. Yeah well, they can have all my disorders for a day and then we’ll talk. Your symptoms and what happened to me is proof that we can’t all be looked at as this collective who need to fall in line and do the same thing. I always bring up the example of acid reflux meds or allergy meds…why do you think there are so many brands on the market? Cause one singular kind is not going to work for 100% of the people who take it and some percentage of those people will either be allergic to or have issues with that med and need something else. Everyone, including doctors, started just looking at all their patients during COVID as a collective that needed to do the exact same two things, wear a mask and get the vaccine, regardless of their personal health situation or the consequences. It was kinda unprecedented. Then of course when you have consequences they are ignored or you are gaslight. They are all either too indoctrinated with the “safe and effective “ rhetoric for both vaccines and masking to do any logical thinking about it, or they know but are too chicken to say anything because they have been threatened by their hospital administrators and medical boards. I knew from day 1 masks were not what they claimed and since then have had more than ample access to data and real world experience showing they have not stopped seasonality or spread of this. All the doctors have had ample opportunity by this point to open their eyes, even if they fell for the propaganda at the start. That’s why I would have no pity for them anymore if they masked forever. I feel like at this point no one has an excuse anymore.
Spot on, very well said!!!
But they should do it knowing the risks and benefits (Iots of risks for really no benefit) if they are going to decide to mask. The problem is they have been led to believe masks can be beneficial, when that is clearly false. I agree that people should be able to choose but they also need to be informed regarding their choices, which has not been the case so far for the most part. At that point, if their lucky rabbit’s foot of a face covering makes them feel better, I guess that’s their problem 🤷♀️
See I just think that at this point, almost 3 years in, everyone has had plenty of opportunity to open their eyes and seek out what the actual truth is. Even if you bought into the propaganda and lie, everyone has a friend, family member, coworker, newsfeed, or someone in their life that has probably by this point tried to meaningfully share the truth and data with them. They either won’t read it or maybe read it but refuse to accept it as truth because of where it comes from or the political affiliation of who shared it. People are being informed in a lot of ways and willfully ignoring it. My sister has a neighbor/friend who bought into the masking extremely hard because she is immunosuppressed. She believes those things are saving her life to the point she still masks outdoors here in an area where no one masks anymore, and basically has whipped her husband and teenaged sons into masking submission as well, the whole “they have to mask to protect her” jargon. I see it in her comment threads, people have tried their best to share data, articles, medical publications, the truth about the fungal and bacterial growth and how masks are actually even more dangerous and detrimental to immunocompromised individuals, etc. etc. She just won’t hear it. She believes she must wear it and that is that. Same with vaccine, she’s up to her 5th. People are sincerely worried for her immune system but she keeps telling them the shot is great for her immune system. So at this point, obviously I would feel sorry if something bad happened for her but, you get to the point where you just have to wash your hands of people who refuse to remove the wool from their eyes. It’s obviously tricky when those people are making the policy for offices you need to frequent.
Yes. You’re right. There are none so blind as those who will not see. It’s pretty much a faith based cult at this point.
The government agency weren’t seeking to appear to be “doing something”. Masking was 1) establish authority where none existed before and 2) to gauge compliance
I hear you and I believe you.
My post was completely misconstrued by most. I have been to the hospital many more times than I would like lately 2020 - 2022 due to mom with cancer, husband who had brain surgery, etc.
I am in the beautiful free state of Florida.
All the *medical settings* still require it.
Right or wrong, what can I do? Make a scene? I politely comply.
You can tell them that you find their participation in a lie deeply disturbing. Their participation in this lie also casts some serious doubt on their medical proficiency, professionalism, and integrity.
Yes, even though you have to comply, you can still call them out on it. My dad did this constantly while my mom was in the hospital last winter.
I love this response!
I recently had an episode (over the bars on my mountain bike) where I had to go find an emergency room or urgent to check out the extent of the damage. I was out of town at the time in another state. I found both a hospital emergency room and urgent care. At both, I told them that I would not wear a mask. Both venues told me they would not see me. At the urgent care, I videotaped the Dr telling me he would not look at my injury unless I put a mask on. A Dr that came out from behind a partition putting on a mask as he approached me. So, nobody was wearing them anyway until I asked to be seen.
I thought about it for awhile and returned to the hospital emergency room. I told the receptionist that I needed to be seen to ascertain my injuries and, under duress, would wear the mask. But, I asked her for a pen and paper, and the name of the attending physician or nurses assistant. I wrote on the paper that I was being forced against my will to put on a mask to receive emergency medical evaluation and the the attending physician was the one enforcing this measure. I asked her to have him sign it. She passed it into another cubicle and, after a moment, the AP stuck his head out and declared “I’m not signing this!” “Why’, I asked, “is any part of it not true?” He let out a disgusted sigh and told me to wait out in waiting room and he’d check me out in a minute.
Turns out nothing life threatening and I got out of there without donning a mask.
Ya gotta stand up against this at every turn.
Oh that is awesome, good for you!!!
I love this!
I sympathize with you because I was in a similar situation last winter and complied because they had the power to stop me from seeing my dying mom and I couldn’t do anything about it 😞 So I get that, I really do.
The part that concerns me about your post is more that you seemed to be saying, unless I misunderstood, that because these medical settings were requiring the masks, maybe that meant they had some effect even if it might be limited. That is nonsense and not supported by any science over the past decades. Masks can actually increase transmission and cause other undesirable effects so even if there were any benefits on one side, they would be negated by the adverse effects. But there are no benefits especially against an aerosolized respiratory virus.
I was wondering out loud. Thank you for your thoughtful post.
So sorry about your mother.
My mother is in hospice at my house right now.
In October 2020 my husband had surgery and I wasnt even allowed in the hospital. I nearly went out of my mind because a loved one is a patients best advocate for things not to go wrong.
By the grace of God, he got through it.
Thank you. And I am so sorry you have been going through all that. My dad was the same, he DESPISED wearing a mask but would not leave my mom’s side unless there was someone else from the family to advocate for her there. It is really unconscionable in my opinion how hospitals and doctors have used their power to intimidate and coerce family members and patients.
Sending you prayers for strength and fortitude 🙏
🙌. Well said, RunningLogic.
Thank you 😊
I hear what you’re saying, and that you’re trying to be considerate of your coworkers, but what about all our lives, before all this Covid19 crap, when we all got colds, all the time, and of course sometimes passed them along to each other? You never wore a mask back then. Think about why you now believe you should wear a mask whenever you have a cold. In other words, consider the possibility that the propaganda is still working on you.
I said that I dont mind complying when I am in a **hospital setting*You misconstrued my post..
I DID not say that I wore one when I had a cold recently.
I simply made an anecdotal observation. THAT is all. I have had a husband in hospital with brain surgery, an 87 year old mom with cancer, so I have been to many medical settings lately, unfortunately. AND I am in Florida.
That is all?! No, that was not all you said. I was addressing your work situation that you described, not your medical setting comments.
I DID NOT SAY that I wore one with a cold recently. I did wear one when it was required of everyone in 2020 with a cold.
I made an anecdotal observation, right or wrong. Not science. A possible link to why hospitals require it however.
Not all hospitals require masks these days. Our local hospitals require masks but most folks simply don't/won't wear them anymore. When I see someone wearing mask I can't help but think they're still living in the scamdemic... One of my physician's told staff she would continue wearing her N-95 mask but gave no reason when asked.
For years our local hospital has required hospital employees to wear a mask if they don't take the flu vax. Funny thing is, we saw far more employees with the flu and vaxed than we did in the non-vaxed employees.
I will never put another one on my face. I watched my grandson wear a mask to school until March of this year. He has allergies and hated having to wear it more than anything. He knew as a 5th grader, that masks didn't stop the spread of anything but smiles...
As long as it is left to the individual to decide, I think it’s fine. The problem becomes when masks are mandated or expected for all to wear.
Absolutely! I agree.
That is the point at which I would have stayed home (uncontrolled sneezing, nose-blowing.) Very helpful in not transmitting.
That's the old school way of dealing with infectious colds.
I totally agree! Out of work for 4 days was not given to me as an option by my boss, unfortunately. I also qualified that to my coworkers!
"I said 'don't hate on me' for my opinion." Where did M VARR in any way indicate even the slightest indication of anything ever remotely suggesting hate? He very politely asked you a reasonable question as you were making a claim about science and health.
You stated an opinion and received a request to share any scientific evidence you had to back it up, and you immediately suggest that question is "hateful", sounding a lot like all the propaganda reinforcing censorship, to me.
I also don't hate you for sure--I don't even know you--but I do find that comment with its implied and completely unjustified accusation--manipulative and dishonest, and thus very annoying.
I meant , dont jump on me. Thank you for your post.
Asking a reasonable question isn't jumping on you. Stop playing the victim in order to avoid backing up your claims.
The democrats do that a great deal on conservativeposts on FB. . It is dismissive of anothers pov or observation in my opinion.
Again, "my opinion".
Have a nice day.
100% agree with your right to say what you want. Appreciate the mostly polite response.
Just realize that the time where we go along with requests based on fear alone to be nice have passed.
I'm not living in fear, of covid or any other fake scary monster or your anxiety caused by my scientifically provable safe actions.
The problem is not mine. Not accepting responsibility for your problems anymore.
I am not scared of covid! I dont wear a mask! I am not vaccinated or boosted! I have worked with the public through it all. By the grace of God go I.
People have started misconstruing my post due to their emotionalism.
I initially said that when medical settings require it, *then* I dont mind. THAT is all!
Check out the website "The Healthy American" - Peggy Hall gives some very doable advice for being exempted from wearing a mask in medical settings. A great deal of success, but not 100% since some medical settings refuse to follow the law. It's at least worth trying and letting them know that we don't go along with their criminal behavior.
Wow! 🤦♀️
Definitely the wrong place to be hoping not to get jumped on for saying mildly positive things about masks!
C&C is populated by hard core mask haters. I'd include myself in that category, but I too find myself reluctantly wearing masks in some healthcare settings. You have the choice of masking up or making a big scene and probably being asked to leave, which doesn't help much when you're trying to get some business done or visiting someone. I generally just put my stupid mask on below my nose and these days that is adequate to project minimal compliance.
More importantly, if you can, avoid the msm medical community and doctors. I refused a dental check up because they still insist on the mask. I said no thanks. They were surprised.
I can relate…my Dentist was completely overboard on the mask/sanitizing thing…so I had to change Dentists! Harder to change Dr because I otherwise really like my Dr. She says we only have to wear masks in waiting room, take off in exam room….unfortunately they can get fined by the State (CA)
Yes I do that too. Even though even the CDC doesn’t recommend them anymore, seems like Medical facilities continue this uncalled for practice. I have a mask made out of netting (you can’t tell it’s virtually breath thru). And I wear that one below my nose.
Yes, before I, thank the Lord, found a PC physician and common sense dentist who had no mask mandate, I always wore the ‘fake mask.’They are easy to obtain. Why would you wear one that restricts your breathing?
Paula- I have one of those types of masks for "emergency use only" like certain medical offices. It was the best thing I ever bought in 2020- conventional masks give me panic attacks and gag me.
Me too!!!
I wanted to get one of those fake masks, but never got around to it!
As I work in healthcare and intermittently have to don a mask, I have special N95's I've modified that fit very loosely and have holes punched in strategic locations. Probably not as breathable as netting, but they are tolerable for short periods.
I'd argue that if your presence is voluntary, then you should abide by the rules of the host. Anything else, frankly, marks you as an asshole.
Thank you. 😊
I read the previous comment and I read it as respectful. I understand your sense if being “jumped on” but I am a bit baffled.
Apparently adding "don't jump on me" to a comment means that no one else is allowed to challenge it.
No. It means read carefully, and dont misconstrue my comment's intention out of base emotionalism.
I get that as there are several genuinely bad-faith types that regularly post comments here that deliberately (IMO) misconstrue what others say. M Varr is not one of them, he specifically and respectfully asked for scientific evidence to back your assertion.
You stated that you don't mind being required to wear a mask in some settings because they make other people feel better (go reread your comment, that's the gist of it). Like it or not, that's a controversial statement as most of us here do not like being forced to do pointless and dehumanizing things against our will, particularly with zero scientific evidence supporting it.
All opinions are welcome here and people are respectful provided people are posting in good faith. But you don't get to drop a turd with the a get out of jail free demand that people "don't jump on me". That's not how it works.
Between 2020 and 2022 I have been in hospitals more than I would like. I live in Florida. Land of the free. The medical settings still require it. In those settings I dont mind. I try to rationalize it to feel better. I try to find some logic in all situations, though throughout this so called pandemic, there has been practically no logic, I agree with you all!
If you do, that is fine.
Why all the emotionalism from some others? I like conversations with thoughtful and polite discourse. Sometimes that entails shades of gray.
That is why I said 'dont jump on me'. I know many can only think in black and white.
I did get some rather nice thought provoking responses though.
I also thank you for your post, though I could have done without your last comment. 😉😉
It seems to me you would have to remove the mask to “blow your nose”…what makes more sense is to stay home and/or WASH YOUR HANDS after blowing your nose to prevent spreading. As far as sneezing, you could sneeze into a Kleenex or handkerchief which would do much to prevent spreading. I do this consistently for allergies.
Oh Paula I have to share a kind of funny and gross story. I was using a mask when it was 'required' (in a freakin grocery store) and started to feel the need to sneeze. What was my immediate response? Take off the dang mask!!! In a milli-second I laugh-sneezed and kept my mask on. HOW GROSS IS THAT!?! I thought OMG this is why we wear these, and it's disgusting and NOW WHAT DO I DO?! Luckily in those few moments I wore a mask, I kept extras in my purse. And I always have tissue. And hand sanitizer then.
That is the response for most people …to take off the mask to sneeze 🤧
Your response is unnecessarily rude. I am not four years old. I know all that and practice it. Unfortunately however, as for staying home, unless you lie and say you have covid, the boss says you must still come in.
Gosh I hope you don't think I sounded rude above. I didn't think Paula did. Just sayin.... Hang in there, we're trying to look at this with you.
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I get it. But most people do not wash their hands after blowing their noses. Did you test for Covid? When I had it it was virtually a cold!
I did take an at home test.. Negative. 🤷
A lot of medical settings in Florida don’t require it & there’s nary a mask to be seen in them.
Not my experience in South Florida at all.
"South Florida" explains that.
Lol.
Ooo, I'm jealous. Must be so nice!
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I have a feeling it may be less about the mask, and more about not wiping with fingers or hand parts that spread it? Just wondering aloud. Are you still using hand sanitizer? I have a friend who works on the floor at a Costco and said that with the masking he didn't get sick like usual either. I forgot to ask him about hand sanitizing. But I think it's much more about HANDS than masks. I'm curious if anyone will be able to back this up.
I have a hand sanitizer right next to me at work. Use it all the time, but you are right that hands play a crucial rule in not transmitting viruses.
I remember when my children were young, I was getting sick all the time. One day at the pediatrician office, my child was sick and so was I. He told me about being meticulous about hand washing and how it would help, especially after a supermarket run! (all those hands of children and adults touching the same cart ).
He was right! After heeding his advice, I rarely got sick again.
I agree about the hand washing. I learned abut that from my mother and have always been careful about it when out in public. And I almost never got sick. Lately I've noticed that all the hand sanitizers and wipes for shopping carts etc. have disappeared in most places. Hopefully people picked up better hand washing habits throughout all this, though.
I’ll hand wash but I’ll never use those chemical-laden hand sanitizers!
I think the CDC still has masks in place for medical facilities, and the state of emergency has not been lifted. Nobody is going to go after the FL facilities that don't comply.
The CDC does not any longer, but some states (blue) do.
facilities that have to comply with Medicare rules still mask up; CDC does not control CMS
I don’t know about the CMS requirements but I was replying to your comment in which you said CDC required it.
Quest Diagnostics still requires it near me, in Florida. Maybe they have to comply with Medicare? Some of my doctors offices have "masks optional" signs now, where before it was mandatory, but unfortunately other doctors still require them.
yes, I looked it up, CDC dropped it but CMS still requires it....doofuses
Angela, you didn’t “had a cold lately”, you caught a cold………through some form of transmission. Aerosol-borne likely, or did you “catch” it from someone else who was or wasn’t wearing a mask? In the end, do you believe masks actually “stop” transmission or are they used more for virtue-signaling? No judgement here, just an ask for your thoughts. Thanks for putting it out there.
It’s pretty simple, if you have a cold or other transmissible illness, STAY HOME.
Sounds good in principle. Alas the real world is more complex. How about the case of the jailed juror? Did you know that (at least in Florida) if one is summoned for jury duty and fails to appear, one can be hauled off to jail (although, I think that is rare?) In many jobs one only has limited (or no) sick days, and faces firing for failure to appear. Now, it's true that for most such demands a person doesn't risk jail, but there are an endless number of legitimate reasons a sick person might need to leave his home. And finally, there is the dismaying fact that humans are stubborn. Even if they know they are contagious or somehow otherwise pose a risk, a lot of people are bullheaded and will still go out in public.
Sadly, most people demanding a peer reviewed, double blind studies are the same ones falling for the plandemic scare tactics and rolling up their sleeves. Don’t be one of them.
1. Annals of Internal Medicine: "Therefore, evidence for mask use versus nonuse and comparing masks types in health care settings remained insufficient" https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/L20-1292
2. Annals of Internal Medicine: "The recommendation to wear surgical masks to supplement other public health measures did not reduce the SARS-CoV-2 infection rate among wearers by more than 50% in a community with modest infection rates" https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-6817
3. `Cochrane Library: "There is moderate certainty evidence that wearing a mask probably makes little or no difference to the outcome of laboratory‐confirmed influenza compared to not wearing a mask" https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD006207.pub5/full
4. "In intention-to-treat analysis, facemask use was neither effective against laboratory-confirmed vRTIs, nor against CRI, not even in per-protocol analysis." https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3349234
5. "However, overall there is a lack of substantial evidence to support claims that facemasks protect either patient or surgeon from infectious contamination." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4480558/
6. "No evidence was identified that examined a potential role for surgical face masks in protecting staff from infectious material encountered in the operating room." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK195765/
7. Southern Medical Journal: "There was no reduction in per-population daily mortality, hospital bed, ICU bed, or ventilator occupancy of COVID-19-positive patients attributable to the implementation of a mask-wearing mandate." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8395971/
8. Covid advisor ""What we're worried about is people getting exposed and getting infected while thinking they were actually doing something to protect themselves," https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/11/confronting-notion-face-masks-reduce-covid-dose
9. "Making pre-school children wear masks is bad public health" https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666535221001221#
10. "the difficulties associated with the mask’s use are significantly pronounced in children aged between 3 and 5 years old." https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34591895/
11. "Use of face masks is not recommended in schools in Norway." https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2020.26.1.2002011
12. "The main insight of the present research is that face masks’ use influences emotion inference from faces for all ages and especially for toddlers." https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.669432/full
OK with you, Gaye, if I take your fantastic comment and turn it into a PDF for distribution/use?
If you click on the timestamp next to her name, it opens the comment in a new window. Right click anywhere on screen, select 'Print'. In the dropdown, select 'save as PDF' & you can save it as a pdf yourself.
Who knew? :) I copied and pasted it earlier into Word and then saved as a PDF, but this is great information. Thank you very much!
Yw, I just learned about it fairly recently & it comes in very handy on web pages.
Sure but I got it from Justin Hart. He’d be glad for it to be distributed but may want to attribute it to him. He has a new book that should be really great. https://twitter.com/justin_hart/status/1581474706942660609?s=20&t=oIao7MrwQKCUQCk_QP1hyg
Excellent. Glad I asked. I do not tweet, so unable to access, but I can certainly make the attribution on the document.
I don’t either but you can look at a few posts. 😎
Your eyes are a mucus membrane. Just sayin’. 🤷♀️
Angela's sentence was not an "assertion," it was a question. Note question mark at end of sentence.
https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD006207.pub5/full
Asians don't wear masks for these reasons, nor do they do so this regularly, nor do they demand others wear them. Some wear them for the massive pollution on low air quality days, in Japan girls wear them to hide their faces, and sometimes people choose to wear them when they are sick and taking public transportation, for example, as a courtesy to others. It's not demanded by others that people mask up.
I wasnt talking about 'demanding'. I wasnt talking about the judge. I was talking about the many ** hospitals and physicians** offices I have been to here in Florida. It is their decision, not mine.
You ALSO brought up having a cold while doing to work. You DIDN’T just discuss medical settings.
That was not in my initial post. That was trying to make sense of the medical setting requirements. It is called conversation,( trying to think outside the box, if you will,) with all its thought involved nuances. 😊
Shands at Univ. of Florida is one of the biggest hospitals in Florida. Masks no longer required there.
Long before COVID, studies showed that masks are useless against the flu virus. We knew this before the pandemic. I'm not "hating on" you. This is simply science.
The problem is, surgical masks were never designed to stop viruses. They are worn in the OR to prevent the surgical personal from contaminating the open wound with large, particulate matter, bodily fluids, etc. By design, they weren't made to stop a virus, so that should not be used for that purpose under any setting, medical or otherwise. The masks are, and always have been, about control and security theater. It's a farce that we still have to wear them in hospitals.
Same as plastic gloves! Infact, I remember how they were first started being used only in restaurant and doctors offices with the onset of AIDS, due to its potential ofcspreading through blood. I found it hideously illogical when people wore them at the beginning of covid.
If anything, unless you are changing them 100x a day, they would spread germs MORE.
this got me to thinking practically...about 'the drip'.....perhaps people still wear them for mostly that large particle droplet prevention, and that more folks actually ARE sick, have colds and whatever, winter nose, and have drippy noses or from many other reasons....my dr of acupuncture friend is still glad to wear the mask due to 'the drip' and so are the grocery employees especially the ones who spend time hovering over the vegetables. I am not advocating it as a solution, but rather trying to understand why folks consent to them and sort of like them...because 'the drip' is an embarrassing human experience and sometimes a sign of ill health/posture as well. Societally we have lost our tolerance for all things that might 'contain germs'. (Party store door handles are of course exempt). About a third of the staff at a large grocery had masks this 2nd week of October. Older shoppers as well, I being one of them who suffers from the drip (I use a hankie, it's a new invention). I happen to have a very serious nose shape and together with my stoopyish posture (i click all the day long after years of a physical job) 'the drip' is something I would like to fix, but with better posture, better health and more looking up at trees. Thanks for talking about 'the drip'; it's ok, sometimes. Gross. But ok. Except maybe now the drip actually does have true baddies in it, nanos and spike gel....so I really don't know what to say, maybe the unvaxxed drip, that has the fewest nanos (from environmental sources incl. breathing the exhalations of the recently or ever vaxxed), we may not really know but I do worry in this direction because it is my job apparently. I am a very proficient worrier indeed. But not masks, hankies instead. Hankies!
I think the masks are false security because people touch them constantly to adjust them and so they are contaminated. If people are sneezing on them or coughing on them or sniffing on them and then touching the masks, then touching something else, I would think that would be a transmission risk more than not wearing one.
I am visiting family in Illinois and went to Saturday Vigil Mass at a rather large church. Maybe it's Illinois' lingering Covid regulations, or maybe it's just that it was a church full of fearful people, but there was such a bizarre display of masking going on. The two greeters were wearing masks. Only one parishioner among the 50 or so present had a mask on. The priest wasn't wearing a mask, until he began to pray over the Eucharist. He put one on at that point, and wore it until the final prayer, when he took it off again briefly. He put it on again to stand by the door and greet the departing parishioners. That was bad enough, but what was worse was the Eucharistic minister who had his mask repeatedly droop below his nose, and kept pulling it up with the same hand he was using to distribute the hosts. Pick up a host, drop it in a parishioner's hand, pull up his mask. Mask slips down as he intones "Body of Christ," so he pulls it up again, over and over. It was the most simultaneously distressing, angering, and darkly amusing experience I have had since this stupid circus began in 2020. I will never visit that parish church again, so help me.
Wow. I have seen similar displays of masking theater in other contexts and I agree with you, it’s at once baffling, infuriating and amusing in a ridiculous sort of way. I am with you though, that display would definitely make me never want to set foot there again. How could one, as a member of the congregation, trust those buffoons to dispense wisdom and good counsel after witnessing their idiocy??
Exactly! This is why I hate getting a server in a restaurant that is wearing a mask- you know they are fiddling with that thing constantly and now they are touching your plates, eating utensils and maybe your food!
Yes!!
Steve Kirsch compiled studies that verify masks PRIOR TO COVID were and are as useless as the jabs in preventing transmission of respiratory pathogens.... Don’t hate on me... I’m just sharing the incomparable indomitable persistent Steve Kirsch’s Herculean commitment to stop the lies and get anyone pushing them to debate his (Steve’s) collection of facts....https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/masks-fail-their-latest-test
It makes even less sense to wear masks in a hospital or physicians office because they know the truth that masks are not effective in preventing a microscopic viral organism and should be following the science. I have 32 years of experience in the healthcare profession so I’ve seen the data but even without the data, it’s not only common sense but also common knowledge by now. If you are sick, stay home.
Unfortunately, the same medical people who insisted on jabs for all their patients are the ones insisting on masking in health care settings. It has not been my experience that physicians and hospital administrators follow anything but the CDC narrative. They certainly don't follow the science.
And that is because Medicaid and Medicare reimbursements are tied to adherence to many of the inept, useless federal agencies such as the FDA, CDC and even the EPA. One of the many ways are healthcare system is broken.
Yes, I learned years ago, when I was doing research about pregnancy and childbirth, that doctors are not scientists and don’t think like scientists by the way they are trained. It takes a long time for new science to trickle down into practice. Like episiotomies being proven not to help but cause harm and even twenty years later, doctors continuing to perform them because that is what their peers were doing and that was what they’d always done.
Which is why my daughter has home births with a midwife.
Yup, i agree, I didn’t have much choice with my firstborn as the nearest birthing center was over an hour and a half away and there were no home birth midwives locally. So I found a great doula and a less interventionist doctor and managed to have a non medicated hospital birth. For my second child, we were in a different city and state so I was able to go to a birthing center and it was such a great choice on so many levels. I wish more people would use midwives snd not be afraid of out of hospital births!
I would never have thought of having a home birth thirty years ago and still might be scared to today, but after being at my daughter's for her last three home births, I have to say that it is a much more humane, healthy, and family-centered experience. And my daughter is so much more in tune with her body and with the whole birthing process. It's really a wonderful thing.
I’m so glad you are open to this! It is scary because we’ve been brainwashed into thinking that pregnancy is a disease to be treated rather than a natural bodily process that generally requires little intervention. Doctors and society have made women think that we cannot handle labor without drugs. And doctors need to always “do something” (much like our government when there is any kind of a problem) even if that something doesn’t really help and may actually create other issues. I know in some cases interventions are necessary but far less than what is currently done. And our outcomes are no better for all the interventions either. It’s really an eye opener once you start looking at the whole system and setup for pregnancy and childbirth.
I absolutely agree! And my husband's a doctor!
I am thankful for those doctors out there who still have common sense and integrity!! Wish there were more of them but glad we at least still have a few!
Long before COVID, our local hospital required any employee who didn't get the flu shot to mask up.
And Ontario nurses won a ruling against mandatory masking in place of the flu shot. Presumably because masks didn't work?
My own intuition is masks would be counterproductive, because they can change breathing patterns. Mask wearing may increase tidal volume - the amount of air inhaled and exhaled in each breath - to compensate for the stale air behind the mask. Deeper breathing would seem to get viral molecules deeper into our respiratory tract and make them more harmful, as we are told that lower respiratory infections are more likely to be harmful than upper respiratory infections.
One observational study out of Europe last spring suggested an increase in C-19 mortality from increased mask wearing. It was statistically significant but not that big: 10-20%. The strength of the study is that it looked at the 2nd COVID wave - a time period chosen because mask wearing policies were already in place before the start of the time period, and not in response to daily/weekly case counts. It is observational data so that is a big limitation.
https://www.cureus.com/articles/93826-correlation-between-mask-compliance-and-covid-19-outcomes-in-europe#article-information-publication-history
Megan Mansell wrote a very interesting piece on how it was possible that the virus droplets being forced through the mask material actually might have the effect of making the particles smaller and thus more likely to get deeper into the lungs.
Yes, she has written excellent pieces on how the masks can act as nebulizers. She also has an e-book on Amazon where she compiled her work.
It's analogous to how handheld sprayers work when misting plants or cleaning windows.
It frustrated me to no end that decision makers in schools and elsewhere preferred to listen to clueless doctors than to people like Mansell.
The appropriate "caring for grandma" control here is for the sick person to stay home... self quarantine... when possible. If one can't stay home, one should CHOOSE to avoid harming others WHEN SICK.
The fallacy in your opinion is it has no scientific basis. And a healthy person wearing a mask only helps the mental anxiety of the other. And, sorry, not my responsibility.
BTW, my "opinion" is backed by both scientific studies and the Constitution. What is yours backed by?
And, yes, I understand and respect your plea for calm discussion. But that doesn't mean nobody can disagree with you or ask for facts behind your opinion.
I spent 18 months keeping my factually accurate opinions to myself in face of rude idiots scared out of their wits. Out of respect for grandmas everywhere. That ship has sailed. I'm not allowing even polite bullies to make me do scientifically stupid things. Move to a state where blue science is the norm if you need that, but leave me alone. Please.
Most of us want calm discussion and good faith replies to our comments, I know it annoys me when people twist my words to try and gain some perceived advantage. I have two teenage boys so I completely understand and have plenty of experience with it.
But the mature response to bad faith replies is to call out the commenter and specifically point out the flaws and falsehood in their response. With our resident Ukraine defenders it's like shooting a fish in a barrel, they are so used to dealing with half-wits they have no idea how to respond to logical counter-responses.
What people are reacting to Angela, is your demand that people "don't jump on me" in your initial comment and then immediately throwing that in M VARR's face when he replied respectfully. You don't get to set the rules of the discussion, and declare certain thoughts or questions off-limits. If you think someone is replying dishonestly then reply to them and dissect their comment and tell us why. That's how thoughtful adults debate things.
Most of us are sick and tired of people telling us what we are and aren't allowed to say. That's why you are getting such a visceral reaction Angela, as your comments attempted to limit other's response out of some sort of misplaced politeness. In case you hadn't noticed, that is exactly what got us into the mess of the last few years and is the tactic at the heart of cancel culture (i.e. your opinions may hurt my feelings so you aren't allowed to say them).
We just aren't going to play along anymore.
Wow! I just didnt want people's emotional outbursts, which I got from *some*. That us what is at the heart of everything bad today: emotionalism. That is what our propaganda media has done to us. That is what this venue of the internet writing has done to us. The art of conversation with its back and forth nuances has died.
I understand that. And it is hard to “hear” tone and easy to misconstrue intent on this kind of platform, which can make discussions touchy sometimes. I appreciate that you are willing to put your thoughts out there and discuss them.
I think the thing is, many in the medical field are the ones using emotions into manipulating people to wear masks. They know people need to see their friends and family or get medical care, so they will comply because they can’t risk not getting access. There is no science supporting mask wearing (especially cloth and surgical masks that are not tested and fitted) for the prevention of respiratory illness. I think some of the reactions you are getting is because the medical community has manipulated people into believing masks do something when they don’t. Thus perpetuating the lie. And your initial statement made it sound like you thought that because medical centers still require masks to be worn, there might be some valid reason for that. There isn’t. At all. And it is exasperating how well the sheep in the medical field have stuck to this totally unscientific protocol and how they’ve been able to convince people that the practice is justified. I think what you’re hearing is a lot of frustration about how well the propaganda campaign has worked and how hard it is to convince people that masks don’t work. I hope that makes sense.
Enabling is not an effective strategy. I am worn out from trying to protect someone’s feeling. This is petty but no one tried to protect my feeling during this debacle, demonic experience. Sound selfish, not going to apologize but I will reflect.
And even more so with this comment. Thank you for stating my feelings so eloquently.
One heart is not enough approval for this excellent response.
I do recommend looking at mask studies done from before COVID (if they haven't all been retconned at this point) because the findings are fascinating. In essence, they truly don't work in limiting the spread of respiratory viruses. As you noted below, large droplets can be caught by masks, that's true - but they aren't the driving force in the spread of respiratory viruses. Also, fascinating studies done of using masks in surgical theatres with equally unimpressive outcomes. Again, they catch large droplets contaminants, but saw no difference in rate of post-op infections.
As for Asians - they are a masking culture and I don't know if they did it more previously because they felt masking provided a filter for poor air quality or if they were motivated to reduce illness. I really, really don't want to encourage a masking culture AT ALL. It is deeply dehumanizing. There is a reason the CCP can control the Chinese population so easily.
Had dinner with my acupuncture doctorate teacher friend yesterday. The Acupuncture in school is still all masked up, and the Dr. said they are fine with it. I did try to explain about the 'mosquito and tennis racquet' analogy, but they said they are not getting colds like they regularly do so the masks must be helping. Dunno what to say to that, except that IF they DO get a cold, that mask is going to start hurting them in a hurry, and the sad fact that the masks are known to have some bad shizz embedded in them, further enhancing respiratory lung issues, nanos and who knows what else, dioxins....when the medicos (both eastern and western) are this dumb?, what to do....best NAB
Exactly right! Some doctors have actually come out and said that Covid is a lot less dangerous and deadly than the flu, but that is not something that mass media will promote.
Me either!
For everyone’s information, Mask-wearing is STILL required for nonjabbed employees where my daughter works (RN @ Arizona hospital), which, as you note, is discrimination between jabbed and unjabbed.
Really makes ya wonder about the ability of the hospital decision makers - what other poor decisions are they making? Do they not realize that the jabbed are just as likely as the unjabbed to transmit? I've read these studies for months (long before this week's revelation) and I don't presume to have a medical or scientific background. Disappointing that "the experts" can't figure out this logical, common sense information - backed by science!!
This all was apparent as soon as fully vaxxed people were getting infected with and transmitting Delta, which was known in the summer of 2021. At that point, it should have been a personal medical decision (what it always should have been anyway!). The fact that it wasn't and that they continued with mandates shows that this was not about the science at all but about control.
Completely agree with you Hendrick!!
So they are NOT requiring masks for jabbed employees? That would surprising. I haven't been in a hospital in Arizona, but I have been in many in Texas and they universally require masks for ALL employees. One hospital briefly changed their policy to only require masks in patient care areas, but pretty quickly snapped it back to everybody everywhere.
Possibly because of fears of being sued for medical discrimination. Can’t claim discrimination if everyone is treated the same.
I was thinking of that when I had to wear a mask and my transmitting coworkers didnt. I thought of that when you weren't allowed into any venue in nyc without a vaccine card, and a mask wasnt even an option.
Where were the discrimination lawsuits?? 🤔
The last two years were a nightmare and in many countries they still are, and even here in some work places because of evil, vaccine coercion.
Those damned satanic vaccines, in my opinion, were the greatest evil ever.
I spent two years of my life not knowing if I could ever travel to see my children, ever go back to the city of my birth, ever be able to keep my job, ever be able to have a conversation with a friend or relative without hearing them brag about their covid vaccine, etc...so masks were not as great a concern for me as the poison shots. My daughter's obstetrician just tried to push the poison on her (and her preborn baby)for a 3rd time in her pregnancy! AT 8 MONTHS! What kind of sick unhinged democrat insanity is this? Are they so ignorant about all the truth which is finally leaking out about them?!
While masks unnerve so many, *justifiably*, the death and sickness injections are still being pushed and that is what personally freaks me out!!
I understand that and many people also have told me the same thing. But, I have to agree with what some have said, that the masks were just the gateway, the first step in coercion and since that worked so well, they moved on to the jabs. In my opinion, if we had all just said no from the very beginning, it would never have gotten as far as it did. Lesson learned though (for me at least). I will never follow any of these kinds of mandates ever again.
I am so sorry for all of the mental anguish you have endured, that all of us nonconformists have endured, these past two and a half years 😢 I hope the tide is turning and those responsible will somehow be made to pay for their crimes.
Thank you for your response.
I did have 2 friends in NYC who died from covid very early on. So I guess that clouded my thoughts on masking. However, I now wonder if they died from the actual virus or the intubation It makes me hopping mad every time I read of another healthy young person's sudden death here or in some foreign news sites I follow.
The brightest glimmer of sanity I have heard is from Florida's surgeon general advising against the shot for young people.
Correct. Jabbed don’t have to constantly mask; unjabbed do. Firsthand info from my RN daughter. Now, if another employee starts to warn her to pull her mask up from below her chin, she gives them the evil eye, and then they usually back off.
My husband is a doctor in Michigan, and his hospital (which owns his practice) required everyone to wear a mask and unjabbed to wear N-95s. This was based on the CMS vaccine mandate. He started out wearing an N-95, but it was so uncomfortable all day (because they're test-fitted and tight!). Plus, his elderly patients couldn't understand what he was saying. Eventually, he just wore a surgical mask and expected to be reprimanded in some way, but that never happened. Anyway, everyone, including patients, at the hospital or its affiliated medical practices has to wear a mask even now, and most employees think it will never go away.
It’s not even recommended that anyone wear a N-95 all day. It’s too bad more physicians and healthcare professionals didn’t refuse to go along with this unscientific practice from the beginning.
Agree.
Another potential Problem with Masks: Reduced Viral Interference
If we inhale hundreds of thousands to millions of virions every minutes, and if most of these viruses are benign, and if they interfere/ compete with each other, then reducing overall virus exposure will also reduce exposure to benign but interfering/ competing viruses, thus canceling any benefit.
Perhaps this situation explains why even suffocating N95 Respirators vs surgical masks did not reduce influenza infections in this 2019 randomized controlled trial among medical workers.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2749214
Great point!
Remember what Ford said about color cars? Anybody can chose the color they like as long as it is black. Agree we are entitled to our opinion, but some only look at it as “you are entitled to your opinion AS LONG AS IT IS THE SAME AS MINE”!
It’s one thing to have a mask be optional *in all settings, including medical*, but the mandatory masking at my doctor’s office absolutely infuriates me.
I leave after an appointment with a terrible headache, from breathing my own CO2. And I have accompanied both my parents to chemotherapy on multiple occasions (pre-covid, obviously), with NO ISSUES. This virtue signaling, controlling behavior drives me nuts.
Wearing a mask to prevent the mucus and other large droplets from infecting your coworkers is very considerate.
I really hope I would be brave like Mr Hahn, he’s very inspiring!
I live in Wisconsin. Every single medical provider is still insisting everyone wear a paper (plastic, really) mask. Hospitals, clinics...all of them.
http://www.noethics.net/News/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=25064:-judge-c-winston-gilchrist-of-lillington-nc-cheerleader-for-attorney-thieves&Itemid=82
Great article about the judge. Thanks for posting!
Absolutely right! The problem is so few people know this and get it.
Yes. That is indeed at the heart of all the lies, coercion, mandates, and pain the NWO globalist elites and their right hand party in the US, the democrat party, have been thrusting upon us. They made no qualms of hiding it at the WEF when they said the pandemic would help the global reset agenda.
Eric - I have read articles and watched many a documentary which also explained that as well as the pollution aspect, there is a huge proportion of people, especially young adults, who like wearing masks as an “accessory” of sorts to hide their faces when they don’t “feel they look their best” or don’t want to put the effort in to get ready or wear makeup, and also many wear them in an effort to hide their faces from the constant CCTV surveillance. Can’t have social credit deducted if it can’t recognize your face. Americans see a mask in Asia and immediately assume it’s just being used for a “medical” purpose and that is definitely not the case.
Interesting. 👍
I love thoughtful conversation. It helps us learn more when we actually listen to each other without emotionalism or unnecessary rudeness. ❤️
Indeed. I definitely found the surveillance aspect of Asian masking quite interesting, especially when you understand that any deemed “infraction” not only can affects your credit score, but can affect your families scores as well. I would think they are highly in tune and sensitive to this.
Julia- that was very interesting information- I always wondered about why they do it there.
Yeah the interesting aspect was with the younger generations saying things like, “I like that I don’t have to show my teeth”, or “I wear one when I don’t want to put on makeup”, or even women saying that it stopped men from catcalling them on the street and no one would annoyingly tell them to “smile” during conversations. This particular article was written by someone who grew up in Asia and was telling you that the masking culture there is very much highly psychological, ingrained in nature and not all medical/pollution. The scary part was once our citizens had been wearing them for so long and the propaganda was set in, you then literally started hearing the EXACT same rhetoric coming out of our teens and people over here in America about how they enjoy them for hiding their faces and emotions from other people. Very dangerous.
Agree Julia C and Eric. I even read an analysis about how masks had started to make people in Japan consider the face a private part of the body and feel uncomfortable showing it.
https://www.getrevue.co/profile/markchangizi/issues/japan-masks-and-private-parts-632267
Yeah I think there is way more of a psychological component going on over there with masking than most Americans have been privy to or will admit to themselves now. They just want to use them as a wonderful example of how great a forever masking culture can be. No thanks.
To tag on: I read an Asian model has a following for her in demand designer masks. The caveat is to learn to dress the very feminine eyes and focus on expression more than face.
I regret, I do not recall her name. Yet, it’s quite remarkable.
I always say if 1 mask is good, then 2 must be better. 😉😄 I am sick of maskers. I don't care why they wear them anymore. I just smile big and look at them with amusement.
You are correct about poor air quality in many of the world's mega-cities. A mask might provide some protection, since much of harmful air pollution is particulates. You tangentially touch on another factor: Asian nations far more homogeneous than the West, and as such have much stronger shared culture, values and behavior. That doubtlessly extends to mask wearing. For whatever reason, there are proportionally lots more herd followers in the Far East.
Please reread my post. I think you all are assuming things about what I said rather than what I actually said!
From what I have been told by thise who have lived there, they also wear masks in crowded spaces out of caution for viruses. Just CLARIFYING NOT AGREEING.
It’s all about power. Reminds me of my theater friends who insist on the audience being masked while the actors are mask free. One actually said we perform for your benefit and it’s your duty to keep us safe. Who are you kidding? You’re on stage to feed your ego! Gimme a break, you’re not that precious.
We had the opposite, only unvaxxed were asked to mask (but no one checked status) and the adult actors didn’t wear masks but the child actors did (clear ones) 😞 It was so stupid and unreasonable. And it made it hard to hear the child actors as well.
🙄 I currently perform with a group that is scripturally based, so there’s none of this silliness going on. And it has the added benefit of serving a higher purpose. I have been basically banned from other groups because of my healthcare decisions, because a hobby should not determine my health. But really, I’ve been banned for thinking differently. I feel sorry for those kids. The adults should be ashamed of themselves. All they are doing is teaching kids to fear life.
So... Jeff.... How can a judge... be it “his kingdom” or not disregard the constitutional rights of a U.S. citizen?! Oh...., how Forest Gump of me... our constitutional rights ended on March 11, 2020... Lockdown Day ( arguable waaaaay before).... but just for argument sake, if we still have a constitution hidden in a woke closet somewhere under a pile of dusty musty mildewed law books.... isn’t the Judge sworn to uphold the constitution ... under Section 242 of Title 18 which makes it a crime for a person “acting under color of any law” to willfully deprive a person of a right or privilege protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States."
"For the purpose of Section 242, acts under "color of law include acts not only done by federal, state, or local officials within their lawful authority, but also acts done beyond the bounds of that official's lawful authority, if the acts are done while the official is purporting to or pretending to act in the performance of his/her official duties.
"The offense is punishable by a range of imprisonment up to a life term, or the death penalty, depending upon the circumstances of the crime, and the resulting injury, if any."
Weigh in counselor...
Well said, Maureen. I tried to call his office or courthouse to tell him what I thought of his beavior. I had the numbers but most wouldn't take a message. I decided since Tucker Carlson had called him out I didn't need to.
Thank you John 😌
And also, if he is giving orders for medical interventions shouldn’t he at least be a medical practitioner?? Isn’t that akin to practicing medicine without a license?
It's especially egregious that he took this action when he was not wearing a mask and abiding by his own diktat.
Excuse me for using your comment to comment on this thread.
Being the last word freak that I am.
This thread reminds me of the child's game where one sentence is whispered into the next person in the circle. By the time it gets back around it has no resemblance to the original.
But it is fun
Lol... no apologies... I’m thrilled to be in this tribe or posse as Bannon calls it of awake readers and like minded... 👏🏻
Regardless of one's faith, or religious beliefs--"Superspreader" is a documentary that people should see for inspiration. Minister and musician-Sean Feucht led the way in challenging the state when the Churches were told they couldn't hold worship services--and "no singing allowed!" His courageous non-compliance spread across the nation, inspiring other Christians and churches to challenge authority. Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uam-xmFz2cc
He is an inspiration and a role model!
I have to admit that last year I bowed out of jury duty solely because I didn't want to be stuck there wearing a mask all day. I filled out the acknowledgment form that I was needed to care for my minor child, which is true, but normally I would make arrangements to be able to do jury duty. No thanks, not as long as they are requiring masks.
I've aged out of the requirement to serve on juries . . . and of having colonoscopies, too! Who says it's not good to be old?
100%, my friend. So sick and tired of this. The ongoing cooperation with this is just pathetic.
Tough case to solve. Judge already biased the jury candidates before the trial even started. The victor most likely had on the N-95 or better.
Amen!
Good grief, I live a couple of counties over from Harnett County, NC! Unbelievable! There needs to be a lawsuit against this judge. How can his actions be lawful?
It’s not lawful …. He’s the type of judge who enjoys legislating from the bench. His Kingdom…. His rules! An embarrassment to the system.
Shouldn't he be charged with unlawful imprisonment at the least?
Trust me…. That will never happen as it would prove the bench with an abuse of power ….. 🤣😏
Jeff's rare dark humor makes the tyranny we are all living through more bearable. I have no idea how he puts out this brilliant newsletter every day, but I pray he never stops.
So showing the maskless vet who is boss is much more important than making sure the single man's child knows where his/her dad is, why he is not coming home, and ensuring that the child is not worrying and is safe and sound? Why am I surprised when it is always the children that get hurt when decisions are made by the radical left?
They are KILLING THE CHILDREN.
💯!!! And he probably has one of those “for the children” bumper stickers or something too 🙄 Big fakes the whole lot of them 😡
“Hold fast to that which is good…” In these times of hellish debauchery, we may have to look a little harder to find the good, but we will if we look up and focus on doing these other things as we rest in His promises:
“We urge you, brethren, admonish the unruly, encourage the fainthearted, help the weak, be patient with everyone. See that no one repays another with evil for evil, but always seek after that which is good for one another and for all people. Rejoice always; pray without ceasing; in everything give thanks; for this is God’s will for you in Christ Jesus. Do not quench the Spirit; do not despise prophetic utterances. But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good; abstain from every form of evil. Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you entirely; and may your spirit and soul and body be preserved complete, without blame at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. Faithful is He who calls you, and He also will bring it to pass.”
— 1 Thessalonians 5:14-24 NASB1995
My faith in Christ is the only thing that keeps me going through this. That same faith requires me to speak out against injustice and stand up for the vulnerable. Thank you for your encouragement.
Your faith prevented you from mass psychoses. Two of the elements are missing from the necessary conditions - isolation and free floating anxiety.
With God you are never alone.
He is with us in times of anxiety and we cling to him, not the “Borg” collective.
But sadly, I have Christian friends who are still totally brainwashed, in fact, one of my biggest disappointments is that my pastors will not speak out on this and I feel as if others want me to be quiet also. Eric Metaxas has written a good book entitled, Letter to the American Church. He says if the church doesn't begin to speak out against the totalitarianism, we are going to look back and find we were complicit in allowing terrible evil. I personally don't intend to be quiet.
Amen to Janice and Anne! To be silent is to be complicit! God has not given us a spirit of fear but of courage! I was an absentee election worker at one of the area nursing homes this past week. The notice on the door to the facility said that masks were required. I ignored it even though my democratic team member complied and not one word was said to me by the staff. None of the patients were wearing masks. The sad thing is that over half of the area facilities require the shot to enter. I am no longer helping with those facilities.
Amen!
Thank you Janice. With such atrocities being committed daily I look forward to your passages.
Know that I am always preaching to myself, searching the Scriptures to find truth to hang on to! Otherwise, I would lose my mind.
So helpful to stay grounded and know the truth.
I see the connection between FBI and Epstein as an informant... Epstein gave the FBI information on who to blackmail so those folks would do the bidding of the puppet masters. And now we understand some of the odd decisions and direction policy makers have made in the past that made us scratch our heads - other than just being 100% mentally deranged.
Maureen Comey erased the SDNY's evidence video of Epstein's death in jail.
'Suicided'?
The 3 Letters protected, aided and abetted Epstein and Maxwell (and her father) to obtain blackmail on everyone. The number and names of people are very extensive.
No one can/will speak out, for fear they will be “suicided” too. It must be like a secret fear club. And so the child trafficking/sexual abuse continues.
Epstein was clearly working for Mossad as well, but then again FBI might as well stand for “Federal Bureau of Israel”. There are many forms of treason, but working for Israel is the chosen form.
That would make sense.
Your comedic writing is appreciated.
The speed of science!
WHOOOOSH. “What was that?”
“That was science, mate.”
“What was it doing?”
“It just stole your pocketbook, silly.”
I’m shocked that not ONE other juror stood up to this tyrannical judge. This is perhaps the most shocking thing about the past few years. Brainless sheeple. Shocking. Can we multiply whoever goes up against this horrible judge
Yes! I think we should
multiply the man who stood up! Let him be blessed. More light on the tyranny!
Agreed! We all need to stand with and support one another!
Exactly. Imagine if every potential juror would have refused the mask. THAT is the only way to stop this evilness. Not one outlier out of many. Otherwise, it’ll never stop.
That's exactly what I told my former PCP when I walked out of my physical before it started. Push back or it never ends. I doubt he will.
Good for you!
College is a few decades in my rear-view mirror ... and I STILL don't know what I want to be when I grow up.
How wise IS IT, to permit a kid of say, 14, 15, 16, to make a decision like gender transformation ?
Is there something I'm missing, here?
............... even at 18. Just why the HECK is there even CONVERSATION around this?
Crazy, mixed up world !
None of this is about wisdom. It's basically elite cartels fighting for control over us, like mafia families in NYC. The government agencies are enforcement arms that sometimes change leadership...
THAT - and just another way to further our divisiveness, to my mind.
It's not about wisdom or consent. It's about ruining a vulnerable person's life as quickly and early as possible. If they can get a teen to consent to an irreversible procedure, disfiguring and painful surgery and permanent infertility, then they will be messed up for life and more likely to kill themselves or at least spread their confusion to others. The devil seeks the destruction of anybody he can get his hands on.
Or groom them to be ready to be used by the perverted ghouls pushing all of this!
The more I think about the transgender movement, the more I lean towards the idea that this movement is about sterilization and population control. All these poor transgender souls will never know the indescribable joy of bringing life into this world and caring for your child. And on top of this, when they will realize how they were used as children to commit atrocities against themselves, it will make their lives and view of adults even more unbearable.
"Time off the game clock"?
Pfft. Even without Ian, DeSantis should win Florida by a landslide.
Christ was always a joke in thiz election, a throw-away candidate.
Another reason to not trust doctors anymore. While the nurse will always ask what medications you take, when your physician prescribes something else for you, he/she will never consider the possible drug interactions.
Because doctors are mostly drug pushers today ( with some other possible redeeming qualities of humanity here and there), it is up to the patient to research or ask their druggist about interactions.
It is all so complicated, and so many patients dont know that they should do this, and then it is too late.
This drug interaction has been well known from the beginning. My husband is a doctor and never prescribed Paxlovid (unless the patient insisted, which some did) because of the manifold drug interactions and also the COVID rebound. It is particularly bad for the vaccinated, on which it was not tested--it was tested only on the unvaccinated, if I remember correctly.
Here in Michigan the only people who took Paxlovid are those who were vaccinated and usually boostered. When they got sick they were scared to death.
Please forgive my statement if it sounded blanket. I wish more doctors were like your husband. 😊
No, you're right. Most of his colleagues dispensed Paxlovid to almost everyone. Interestingly, he had a new PA working under his observation, and the PA told him that he'd stopped prescribing Paxlovid to his patients because they were all getting rebound COVID! Smart guy!
Doctors shouldn’t be pushing vaccines at all. They’re all toxic poison.
😱
Especially when they are prescribing untested mystery meds. "Just take this and we'll see what happens...." Oh well, the FDA said it's okay, so there's that.
The drug interactions are well communicated to doctors. Doctors may be all about pushing the pharma products they are told to, but they are not all about being sued and disregarding drug interactions is a good way to get sued.
You might think a safer approach would be to use Ivermectin, which has no drug interactions and has been shown to be quite effective as an early covid treatment. But NOOOO, that would be silly. Better to give the one Dr. Fauci says to and temporarily stop all the other medications old and infirm patients are taking to keep them alive, and make sure not to restart them too early because of the covid rebound and second Paxlovid course they will need.
Quote for the day; “Poor Charlie! Life can be SO unfair sometimes. I blame climate change. Please keep Hurricane Ian victim Charlie Crist in your thoughts today, while you’re doing your bathroom business.” Thanks for the laugh. :)
I agree, that ending was awesome 😆😂
The trans agenda people are demonic… they’re actively going after minors.
It’s absolutely predatory!!!
A large percent of these kids will desist… if society and American Culture- teachers and doctors- would stop shoving it down their throats trying to encourage and normalize it all!
I recently saw this picture- it said
-don’t be your child’s first bully-
And it was a set of parents standing behind a young child with rainbow pride wings
And the parents were holding scissors clipping the child’s rainbow colored wings 🤨
As you dissect culturally
How we arrived at this deranged moment… where cutting off the genitals of children is the thing parents are supposed to do to save their child from certain suicide…
I believe the framework for this was laid during the ‘anti bullying campaigns’ started in schools
On the surface
Sure anti bullying sounded good- like a good thing
BUT- what’s actually happening
Is it’s created a school culture where ‘anything goes’ and you aren’t allowed to say anything about anything or anyone…
if you’re a boy and you wanna show up to school in long fake nails, long fake eyelashes, glam eye makeup, a tube top, a mini skirt, and a long black wig…
No one is gonna say a word to you at school - not the kids and not the administration- because that would be bullying!
And so these confused kids- who have been swept up in this ‘gender revolution’- (and many are special needs children I might add- who have extreme difficulty with social connectedness and knowing what’s appropriate and what’s not socially) who are making these social missteps are never called to task to self correct- they are only EMBOLDENED and reinforced at schools!
My husband and I, although 71 and 70 years of age, have begun helping teach students at our church because we are burdened by these forces of evil that are coming after our children. One of my girls, a tenth grader, told me that there are boys walking around her public school wearing "tails." They're furries, or pretending to be. I can't believe we've reached the point where this nonsense is allowed.
I can’t even….
Wearing tails is the sort of thing kids do when they are 3 or 4, but even then wise parents chuckle at the PRETEND play of their children. Even older children who dress up as an animal for Halloween or a school event have ALWAYS *known* that they were simply wearing a COSTUME and that underneath they were still a boy or a girl HUMAN.
Accommodating these kids coddles them, to say the least. Grow up and become an adult HUMAN. For crying out loud.
I don’t even know where to begin saying how absurd, harmful, childish, foolish, and downright wrong it is for adults to be tolerating this for even one tiny nanosecond.
Agree with you completely.
Anyone I tell these things to- says- this can’t be true
But it is!!
Kids have lost hold of reality
They’re living in some fantasy state
And those people you speak of want to keep their heads buried in the sand..like they have through the decades about the snowballing debasing and perversion of the culture...how college dorms have been like bordellos (male and female) and drunken bars for decades, how schools have been promoting lgbtq with clubs since the 90s, how series on netflix show soft porn, men kisding men and more, women with women, trans people scarred by their parents not celebrating it, etc. Instagram practically nude posing, and Kardashian values (her mom made them famous by deliberately leaking Kims sex tape), and so much else
THIS is reality. This is what the gvt promotes in exchange for subsidies, this is everywhere. Even our church youth have to deal with this, and despite the influence of church groups and faith filled parents, the demonic culture is quite strong in its influence. It is pervasive. Never underestimate it.
Lord have mercy on our country and the collective west.
I can't help but think that perhaps the "love of the creatures more than the love of the Creator" has helped create this incredible spiral into the abyss. Do children find their parents more loving to their pets than their own children that they snuggle and take everywhere with them while sending offspring of to school to be hated, bullied, and exploited? I see their fb posts. It offends me, a stranger!
Our tiny rural school in Oklahoma has two “furries”.
😭
You are quite literally correct to say they are demonic. So is the abortion lobby and LGBTQ+ lobby.
Or a boy can show up in your girls’ locker room identifying as a girl but sitting there looking like a boy and leering at the girls in various stages of undress. Then when the girls complain, THEY get accused of “hate” and bullying 🙄🙄🙄😡😡😡
That literally happened in Vermont. The girls objected to having the boy leer and make inappropriate comments and the school forbade THE GIRLS using their own locker room so as not to offend the boy! Here's a link to the story, since I know sane people will think I am making it up. https://www.foxnews.com/us/vermont-girls-volleyball-players-banned-from-locker-room-after-objection-transgender-student-report
Yes, that exact story is what I was referring to, even though I didn’t mention it specifically (too lazy to go find the link to the article where I had read about it). Thank you for the link!
An interesting comment re the bullying. You probably have a really good point.
Nobody can say anything that “offends” anybody else. Well, unless you are a cross-dressing giant-boob-wearing student or teacher… then, it matters not that YOUR appearance and demeanor offend half of the student body. Or if your daughter’s teacher suggests that because she likes to wear short hair and ride mountain bikes or hike and fish and camp that maybe she is really a boy, and your daughter takes offense. Well, THAT kind of bullying is now okay, I guess.
How can a child brought up with Christian values and concept of sin even survive in a public school. What will happen if said child says 'mommy says that our religion doesnt accept homosexual marriage'. They will probably be harshly reprimanded.
I know.
It’s really hard to comprehend why Christian families keep their KIDS in these unfortunate cesspools.
A neighbor was considering homeschooling because of it. But this year her school building has new leadership and things are better. (She works in the school building so undoubtedly knows better than many.). But, what about next year? Or the year after that? And what about when the kids are in middle school?
It’s a heckuva lot easier to ease into homeschooling in elementary school than in middle or high school.
Our family has been SO THANKFUL for our freedom to homeschool. It is a blessing. In many ways. I cannot recommend it enough.
TED refused to air an erudite and informational talk about homeopathy in Africa by a woman who is successfully working with AIDS patients (successfully, as in people go from bedridden and wasting to working and feeding their families), but this gets the green light. Okay, then,
TED has been hijacked by progressives … vaccine ideologs- like Gates, gender revolution ideologs, climate agenda people …
It’s not what it was
TED was always squarely mainstream, and has been pushing the climate malarkey and other WEF-associated agendas forever. Sometimes a good talk that fits inside the approved boundaries gets out, like ones by Brené Brown or Vanessa Van Edwards, but overall it’s just a slightly less smug version of NPR.
2021, I got jury summons, but they cancelled... Got another one... I called and said I don't wear masks... They were going to try to put me in zoom call...it was cancelled. I wouldn't have taken pcr bullshit test.. Too close to my EXQUISITE mind, for ine
I hope that judge faces prison for attacking north Carolina man.
Btw, a jury might have 10 idiots. But 2 would NEVER CONVICT
Did you hear that on Thursday fed gvnmt extended pandemic's status as a public health emergency for another 90 days, thereby preserving measures like high payments to hospitals and expanded Medicaid? Are we still in emergency??!! I thought the pandemic was over. It’s just amazing how things work these days. They won’t rest until they milk this thing for an agenda. It’s disgusting.
It is indeed disgusting and there definitely need to be clear limits imposed on the ability to declare a state of emergency, if it’s allowed at all.