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Genevieve's avatar

Julia C- Amen to everything you said! I find it crazy that something that would have been seen as abnormal prior to 2020, is now widely accepted everywhere, and still FORCED on us by some "heath care" professionals and offices. If some folks out there still feel reassured by the masks, OK fine, let them wear it, but leave the rest of us alone.

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Seriously, if my doctors want to be ridiculous and wear them for the rest of the their lives and I have to never see their faces again, I’ve gotten to the point where I just don’t care and I’m like, so be it. But you can’t force me to do this forever and I will not. I was injured by a mask, since I have POTS they exacerbated a whole bunch of symptoms and I ended up having a hypoperfusion stressor, passed out, and had a brain injury. I had two months of immediate slurred speech and now two years later, I’m still dealing with vocal cord dysfunction that I need speech therapy for that I can’t get, because they won’t let me go without a mask! I also have something called MCAS which causes you to react to smells and chemicals and the polypropylene plastic in the masks make me sick. My doctors don’t care and I have to don the very intervention that injured me in order to seek follow up care for the consequences of that exact injury! It’s been a friggin nightmare. I refuse to have all virtual care because it’s limited and most of my offices stopped offering it anyway. After the CDC changed its “recommendations” again for the healthcare settings and my primary care facility still was requiring them, I’m in New England which is always in the “red zone” so we will never be told we can stop wearing masks here…I told my primary that I’m NOT doing this forever and that everyone is going to have to start to giving me some more concessions. I only have an exemption for my Remicade infusions right now. Of course she was just silent. I seriously believe that because up here we are a very vaccinated/boostered area, it’s just keeping us in that red transmission zone rating perpetually. But for the other rating system they use for hospitalization/deaths, we’ve been low/green for ages. It’s time to be done with it, definitely with forcing patients to wear one if they don’t want to.

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Genevieve's avatar

Julia- that is awful! I'm so sorry for what you have gone through. I, too have autoimmune diseases and know a lot about the conditions that you have. They have no right to do that to you and cause you further injury. I keep praying that the world wakes up, before it's too late.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I personally would like to see consequences for them, retribution for the harm they’ve caused!!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Ugh this makes me so absolutely infuriated on your behalf!!! This is completely unacceptable and unconscionable!! I hate hearing people say “it’s no big deal” because for many people it IS a big deal!! I always feel lightheaded wearing a mask and my nose runs and my throat gets scratchy. Once I was at a medical office in the fall of 2020 and felt woozy and like I couldn’t breathe wearing a cloth mask. When they took my blood pressure, it was sky high. I NEVER have issues with that. This was the first time in my life my blood pressure was crazy high. I asked if I could take the mask off and they said yes (it was a functional medicine office so I think they only complied as much as they felt they had to). A few minutes later after I had been breathing freely, my blood pressure was down quite a bit. All those experiences plus the numerous studies and articles I have read about masks, have led me to think that they were not as was claimed, a no risk intervention. Clearly your experience shows the same.

When people say “Oh just stop complaining, it’s no big deal, I wear a mask all day and it doesn’t bother me.” My response is: “We’re not all the same. People react differently. This is akin to telling someone with a peanut allergy, ‘It’s no big deal, why are you bring such a baby, I don’t have any problems eating peanuts!’”

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Julia C's avatar

Having that thing on your face changes your normal breathing patterns. You’re taking deeper more shallow breaths to try and accommodate for having something covering your face and it can cause all sorts of issues, especially for more vulnerable people. I’m sitting here with Crohn’s, a connective tissue disorder, POTS, and mast cell disorder, my autonomic nervous system which controls my breathing is faulty and I’m having healthy people scoff at me cause “they can wear one just fine”. Yeah well, they can have all my disorders for a day and then we’ll talk. Your symptoms and what happened to me is proof that we can’t all be looked at as this collective who need to fall in line and do the same thing. I always bring up the example of acid reflux meds or allergy meds…why do you think there are so many brands on the market? Cause one singular kind is not going to work for 100% of the people who take it and some percentage of those people will either be allergic to or have issues with that med and need something else. Everyone, including doctors, started just looking at all their patients during COVID as a collective that needed to do the exact same two things, wear a mask and get the vaccine, regardless of their personal health situation or the consequences. It was kinda unprecedented. Then of course when you have consequences they are ignored or you are gaslight. They are all either too indoctrinated with the “safe and effective “ rhetoric for both vaccines and masking to do any logical thinking about it, or they know but are too chicken to say anything because they have been threatened by their hospital administrators and medical boards. I knew from day 1 masks were not what they claimed and since then have had more than ample access to data and real world experience showing they have not stopped seasonality or spread of this. All the doctors have had ample opportunity by this point to open their eyes, even if they fell for the propaganda at the start. That’s why I would have no pity for them anymore if they masked forever. I feel like at this point no one has an excuse anymore.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Spot on, very well said!!!

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RunningLogic's avatar

But they should do it knowing the risks and benefits (Iots of risks for really no benefit) if they are going to decide to mask. The problem is they have been led to believe masks can be beneficial, when that is clearly false. I agree that people should be able to choose but they also need to be informed regarding their choices, which has not been the case so far for the most part. At that point, if their lucky rabbit’s foot of a face covering makes them feel better, I guess that’s their problem 🤷‍♀️

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Julia C's avatar

See I just think that at this point, almost 3 years in, everyone has had plenty of opportunity to open their eyes and seek out what the actual truth is. Even if you bought into the propaganda and lie, everyone has a friend, family member, coworker, newsfeed, or someone in their life that has probably by this point tried to meaningfully share the truth and data with them. They either won’t read it or maybe read it but refuse to accept it as truth because of where it comes from or the political affiliation of who shared it. People are being informed in a lot of ways and willfully ignoring it. My sister has a neighbor/friend who bought into the masking extremely hard because she is immunosuppressed. She believes those things are saving her life to the point she still masks outdoors here in an area where no one masks anymore, and basically has whipped her husband and teenaged sons into masking submission as well, the whole “they have to mask to protect her” jargon. I see it in her comment threads, people have tried their best to share data, articles, medical publications, the truth about the fungal and bacterial growth and how masks are actually even more dangerous and detrimental to immunocompromised individuals, etc. etc. She just won’t hear it. She believes she must wear it and that is that. Same with vaccine, she’s up to her 5th. People are sincerely worried for her immune system but she keeps telling them the shot is great for her immune system. So at this point, obviously I would feel sorry if something bad happened for her but, you get to the point where you just have to wash your hands of people who refuse to remove the wool from their eyes. It’s obviously tricky when those people are making the policy for offices you need to frequent.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes. You’re right. There are none so blind as those who will not see. It’s pretty much a faith based cult at this point.

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