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Copernicus's avatar

A very difficult tension is how to broach the idea that a loved one’s or friend’s injury is needle-induced. Especially in cases of death or severe hardship. The person is grieving, the family is grieving. Inserting the role of the needle in the death or life-altering disability won’t change the outcome... and in the case of miscarriage or fetal/neonatal death will create immense guilt... so, how exactly does one navigate this very sticky thing.

A physician friend of mine who sees and treats lots of injury may or may not broach the true etiology w patients, depending on the patient’s receptivity to the idea. Many injuries have been called “long VID” by regular drs, and she will treat that... knowing it actually is injury. Treatments overlap. Some patients may not choose to see her for treatment if point blank confronted w it as injury and not long VID.

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NAB's avatar

This is such a good comment, Copernicus. I have a friend at work whose wife lost their baby at 22 weeks after she received the vaccine. There is NO way I could ever even suggest the link (though he is a smart guy and I think will one day will have to confront the facts on the ground). We have another friend who, after getting the initial series, developed atrial fibrillation and when he presented to the ED and related to the treating provider that he had received the vaccine a week prior to onset was told, "I don't want to hear about that - we don't even consider it." So much for documenting accurately in a medical record. Pre-Covid any potential cause would have been acknowledged and considered. Vax has changed everything and not for the better.

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RunningLogic's avatar

“I don’t want to hear about that” 🤬😡🙉

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Irunthis1's avatar

My own a fib was grossly exacerbated by shedding (and probably direct contact with the vax in the pharmacy where I work--I’m sure it was everywhere.) Although I already had (undiagnosed ) a fib (I’d had episodes for at least six years) my symptoms dramatically increased in 2021 to the point I had to have heart surgery in February this year. Thank god it worked but I still occasionally have a palpitation but only when I’m at work or during the weeks that I’m on duty 10+ hrs a day. I’m unvaccinated but my first cardiologist was pissed I refused to comply. I asked him why he recommends a known cardio toxin be injected into his heart patients and he laughed in my face. He’s not my doctor anymore obv. He’s the reason people can’t believe the truth. The intentional ignorance of the medical community is profoundly damaging. As a pharmacist I am distressed, disgusted and ashamed of my colleagues but keep telling the truth at every opportunity.

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RunningLogic's avatar

It’s really shameful how so many in the medical profession are complete shills. Kudos to you for standing by your principles.

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NAB's avatar

G-d bless you, Irunthis1. Seriously. May you reap rewards for your witness and may many be given ears to hear. Your cardiologist is, sadly, all too representative of providers today. His laughter reveals his ignorance. A truly serious doctor would have engaged in a thoughtful discussion. It appears, he didn't have the intellectual goods to be able to do so with you.

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Mom in Florida's avatar

It’s a tough one but people deserve the truth! Good or bad.

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GoodGrief-239's avatar

I agree, to continue in the self deception and the presumably compassionate deception continues the harms to others who ignorantly continue boosters when this should be screamed from the rooftops.

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Annie's avatar

I've wondered the same thing about all the ailments popping up in acquaintances and family members of friends. If it could help improve diagnosis and treatment, I would go there, but I'm not aware of how it would help. Is there any specific medical protocol for these particular vax injuries?

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Copernicus's avatar

Go to FLCCC.net for some protocols.

Also, exploring naturopathic medicine and homeopathic medicine can be helpful as well.

Nothing is a guarantee, but there are things that can help, depending on the person and the condition.

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Copernicus's avatar

Yeah.

The hard part is knowing that the way to stop the carnage from continuing is to SPEAK. Yet, the impediments to SPEAKING are many, and I am not talking about the financial ones.

And how will people hold those responsible accountable, if the people do not ever make the association between the recommendations to inject and the subsequent harms? Were there a true recognition of the association, the public rage would be unstoppable. As unstoppable as the rage about the Balcienga or whatever it is crap.

How would I have learned about the harms of traditional vacksines, and their possible role in chronic conditions of my family members, leading me to decide “no more,” were everyone silent? Granted, the voices speaking were not those close to me. Most of them still think The Current Vacksine is unique in its harms. It is uniquely severe in its badness, but it is not the only bad one out there.

A good friend and I have discussed this a couple of times. She too knows someone whose pregnancy was affected.

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Politico Phil's avatar

I have vaxx'd friends who are now sick ALL the time. It's just the result of an immune system that is so dysfunctional from the jab that it can't fight off a simple cold. And they're still CLUELESS, uh scratch that, they're still in DENIAL.

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Chevrus's avatar

Ditto. The even vocalize it as such.....at some point I may just ask them: Have you considered a regimen to detox from the shot(s)?

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Politico Phil's avatar

I wish I had thought of that. Ask them a question that is not confrontational but is instead offering a solution. Excellent.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Same 😞

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Lisa Ca's avatar

I actually completely agree with you. How hard it is to broach and why say anything and just make them feel worse (I have two close friends with cancer I know is clot induced). As well as a Dr may or may not broach depending in receptivity. I have done the same as a practitioner (different area) based upon a persons willingness to go forward and future plans. For example, my dad who is 75 probably is a bad candidate for a knee surgery as its higher risk and lots of recovery, for someone who does not even exercise now.

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redpilled69's avatar

Agreed! And let's not forget about remdesivir. I had a routine outpatient procedure. After declining to share my vax status with the nurse, she asked if there was anything she needed to know medically. I stated that if things went south and I had to go to the hospital that I was to get NO remdesivir. At this point she thinks I'm a total wackjob... but does she? When she comes back to start my IV, she states that "since YOU brought it up, I'm also not a fan of R." Her dad had covid and had pretty much recovered but fell and broke his hip. He had to go to the hospital for surgery. Per protocol they tested him for Covid and he still tested positive. Per protocol he received R. Surgery went fine and the surgeon said no issues at all. She gets a call the next day that his kidneys aren't right and they are keeping him. I expressed sincere apologies and asked if he got put on dialysis. She replies "No. He died. I'm certain the R killed him." I told her about prosecutenow.org but she said it was over... her mom couldn't handle it. So so sad!

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NAB's avatar

With apologies to our gracious host, Jeff....those bastards. And of all the crimes associated with Covid, the use of Remdesivir might be the most egregious. They KNEW and they still gave that stuff out like freakin' candy. Shame, shame, shame on anyone involved in writing that policy and may justice one day be delivered for that family and the countless other families subjected to that terrible drug.

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Befferz's avatar

This is where a press corps that holds power accountable would come in helpful.

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