Yes the insanity trying to split conservatives. DO NOT FALL FOR IT TURN OFF THE TV. The media will do all it can to split us up. We have to stand together no matter what.
I dumped my sat dish last year, and got a Roku. I pay for the ad-free Hulu.
Personally, I've been into watching the 80/90s sitcoms. My latest binge watching is Home Improvement, with Tim Allen. Timeless laughs.
I also got Foxnation- but only to watch Tucker Carlson. (also commercial-free)
And I recently installed Rumble via my Roku and was watching Charlie Kirk on election day.
Oh, and I also hit up the local used bookstore and stocked up on reading material, and just turned the boob tube off completely. My life is so much calmer. :)
For Fox stuff, go to Rumble via Roku and subscribe to Foxmuldernews. You can get what you want commercial free there, including Gutfeld which is awesome. We also watch Real America Voice and OAN via Roku (have to pay 4.99/mth for OAN, but it's worth it, and since they keep getting banned, I look at it like a donation.
If you are looking for a wholesome show to watch look for Heartland. It’s on Roku. I even got my husband hooked. And there’s more than 20 seasons so it will keep you occupied for a while.
We watched all of it. Was good. Til I found out it was produced by Canadian Gov't. Also gets into climate change and such in later episodes. Made me angry.
I didn't know that either! We have Roku, so we'll have to try that tonight when we watch American Thought Leaders! Update: Already tried it and it works! No more watching on the computer!
I love my Roku. I'll search out a few tv series or movies and then when I have several on one premium channel ("Starz" or whatever) I'll subscribe for a month or two, watch what I want, then cancel. Some have a 7, 14, or 30 day free trials, too. I like tubi, freevee and the free subscriptions to discovery+ (husband likes some shows there), Peacock and Paramount+. I also have a yearly subscription to PureFlix when it went on sale. I have the YouTube, Rumble and odyssee apps installed.
We pay for OAN. How refreshing that was on election night. We do not watch Fox, Newsmax or any others. They are all garbage. We also have a Roku tv. We also got a fire stick. I hate Amazon but we only pay for what we want. We don’t do any of that Alexa garbage.
If you have Roku, look for the Pluto channel. They do have ads, but live tv, OAN, War Room, Real America's Voice, and a lot of variety, from current to classics.
I can ignore movies or shows with which I disagree, but the ads! It has happened suddenly. The campaign ads were overwhelming, but they've been replaced with "can I unsee that?" pharma ads. (The funny thing is, on these 'drugs for everything' commercials, they tell about every single possible complication -including death - yet there is never a peep about complications when they are dancing and singing for the almighty injections. It's a miracle concoction!)
I think it's nearly impossible to find any broadcast media that hasn't bought into the ESG, CRT, LBGT agendas. The only option is to throw the TV out the window, along with the cell phone. Coming soon!
My LG Smart TV has XUMO. If your remote is like mine, there is a house button. When you click on it, it tells you the internet apps you can download like Youtube or Netflix. But there should be a button for directions on your Smart TV to use XUMO. Or you could google for how to use XUMO on an LG Smart TV if yours is different from mine. I used to buy Amazon Prime for the tv/movies, but no need to now. One app that I downloaded was FreeBe (sp?) it also has a lot of movies with commercials.
Edit because I just saw you can go to settings, go to channels, and turn on LG Channels. Do not feel to bad. I did not find this until a year into my new TV.
Yes, I have a smart tv and see nothing free. We have had Hulu for a year and a half and the price has gone up twice. $75 a month for 75 channels and live sports is too much for me. Hubby won’t give up his Fox News, I have no idea why.
Subscribe to FOX News and stream on tv via ROKU. I don't care about FNC live, but subscribed to FOX Nation to get Tucker Carlson Tonight, Tucker Carlson Today and Tucker Carlson Originals with next day delay via ROKU.
As Jeff suggests, "they" are trying to split conservatives between DeSantis and Trump, with the GOPe/RINO/UniParty wing of the GOP firmly behind DeSantis (check out who is funding his war chest) and the America First/MAGA populist wing behind Trump.
Yep. They can push Trump out, get DeSantis out of Fla and do to him what they did and are still doing to Trump, throw in a rhino or two back in Fla and try and change the state back to blue.
Trump is doing a good job himself of trying to split off DeSantis supporters by his vindictive threats to spill the beans on him -
During an interview with Fox News Digital published Tuesday -
“I don’t know if he is running. I think if he runs, he could hurt himself very badly. I really believe he could hurt himself badly,” Trump said. “I think he would be making a mistake, I think the base would not like it — I don’t think it would be good for the party.”
Trump then alluded to exposing some dirt on DeSantis without specifying.
“I would tell you things about him that won’t be very flattering — I know more about him than anybody — other than, perhaps, his wife,” Trump said.
This marks the second time in less than a week that the former president has hit at Ron DeSantis after referring to him as “Ron DeSantimonious” during a rally over the weekend."
How can one gloss over such malicious insinuations when considering a president? Today he's blaming his wife for Oz' defeat by her "poor advice". In addition to which his fans seem quite blind to his refusal to acknowledge the devastating adverse events of the vaccines he continues to praise. A pity at his age he hasn't been able to overcome his overweening pride.
In my mind this shows how Trump is in it only for himself. His ego gets in the way. He is NOT STRATEGIC on behalf of the Republican Party at all. I would like to see a higher caliber Candidate for the Conservatives in 2024 (than Trump). He is too divisive, has a loose undisciplined tongue, isn’t polished nor impressive with the way he conducts business or makes decisions, he even reveals security concerns if he thinks it’ll show he’s an important man. It’s ridiculous. He’s a loose canon. We need someone who can reach across the aisle when needed to influence behaviors. Trump isn’t that.
there are still a lot of people with TDS. i wonder if some of his pre-election negative desantis comments were actually helpful in garnering votes for desantis.
I agree a divided house cannot stand. However, truth is so important. Just as Jeff shared that the establishment is stretching the truth with the narrative after the election, I believe the truth needs to be told about donor monies. Trump is angry because many of his donors have left him and given to Desantis. This summer this was reported and you can check it yourself with the donor lists.
Trump needs to just get out of it. He's too old and too divisive. Anyone can see this from how much we still talk about him after 2 years of him not being in office.
To be fair, we talk about Trump because of all the democrats and RINO’s hatred towards him and their intense desire to hang him for something. Jan 6 and the raids on his home and businesses since Biden took office were not done by Republicans and this narrative is being incessantly pushed by democrats, the main stream media and the far left liberals. I personally think he needs to tone it down some and show some humility, but he is in fight mode (I think) for his life as he’s known it. I mean they’re trying to ruin him, his businesses, his kids... I’d be fighting too.
I am in regular contact with many vocal conservatives ... we mostly feel the same about this “issue”, are just waiting to see which way we go ... both desantis and trump are strong leaders. I prefer the former because I had good time to witness trump weaknesses and honestly he’s a bit old and battle worn. Desantis is shiny and new and very inspiring! Anyway, I do not see this as much of a thing to worry over
Problem is, DeSantis will be bought and paid for by his big money donors. I don’t think he’ll be able to do what needs to be done, nor will he even be allowed to try. Trump can be independent enough and will at least try.
DeSantis means RINO GOPe in control and nothing really gets done. Just an illusion here and there. Trump means some great ideas but with the unrelenting hatred coming from his own party, the press and the Democrats, it will be very difficult to achieve what needs to be done.
I will support either, but I fundamentally disagree with the festival of hate on either side.
@Jeff, I saw Trump's post from yesterday on Truth Social where he states:
"Now that the Election in Florida is over, and everything went quite well, shouldn't it be said that in 2020, I got 1.1 Million more votes in Florida than Ron D got this year, 5.7 Million to 4.6 Million? Just asking?"
Why is he making it a competition? We really need them to be fighting united. They BOTH are super important to the freedom and peace of our country. Why can't they work together? Or is he simply seeing DeSantis as a threat to his presidency in 2024? What is your take on that?
I like that. Furthermore, assuming Don and Ron are talking, they need to strategize how to preemptively counter any Dem or RINO strategies to cause division. I hope they are that smart.
All politicians know to strike while the iron is hot. Many waited and were an afterthought four years later. No idea if Desantis wants to run now, but politically speaking, this would be the best time. Personally, I am sure he is weighing the fact that he has young children and a wife who just beat cancer and is probably still suffering after effects of chem.
Totally agree. I’m conservative and I love DeSantis but I can’t stand Trump. There are lots like me. I’m not sure if I could ever bring myself to vote for him.
It seems to me that DeSantis has had plenty of trails just running the great state of Florida which has polished him and brought him to where he is today. I don’t pretend to be always current with the news, so I am curious about what constructive criticism you have seen from Trump regarding DeSantis.
This ad appeals to me because I remember the original Paul Harvey poem, "So God made a Farmer". It has positive connotations for me so perhaps the campaign ad was targeted at my generation? My family listened to Paul Harvey and "The Rest of the Story" all the time. Today I like Mike Rowe's "The Way I Heard it" for the same reason. My guess is this ad was not targeted towards your demographic.
Trump has a valid point if what you mean is that he got 5.7 Million votes and DeSantis got 4.6 Million votes this year... Also, many people have since moved to FL from Blue States - DeSantis should have done better and he ran against a fake candidate who is a Cameleon...
everyone knows that presidential elections turn out more voters. Trump will lose support on the road that he is on. He is already maxed out his following. People either love or hate him. He will lose middle of the road people if he keeps going after DeSantis for no reason. I could list 500 other republicans that are in front of DeSantis for him to worry about. If he wanted support, he should have something like this "All current republican governors should contact DeSantis and ask him for the playbook on how to make a state go deep red. He has done a fantastic job in Florida as governor"
YES!!! THIS!!! Why not maximize the voters together!! You nailed it! I cannot for the life of me understand why he would try and pick a fight with DeSantis other than ego. Put the country first. That is what his whole Presidency was about. Do not try to divide the people on this. Team up and stand together to save this country!
With the full backing and protection of the GOP branch of the Uniparty machine, with their desperate need to finish off Donald Trump, DeSantis has done a decent job in Florida as Governor. But nothing beyond what any decent human should do and with many things not sufficiently addressed, such as Florida becoming the Abortion Capital of the Southeast. And Governor being a position he first obtained, because of the endorsement he finally had to reluctantly request from Trump.
So we Trump supporters should sit down and shut up, huh? I don’t want another George W. Bush faux conservative candidate, thank you.
Do you live in Florida? "Decent"? Who did better? He made the state going from bluish-purple to solidly red and a freedom destination the world can dream about. I supported Trump with all might, but he's doing the biggest mistake nipping at Desantis.. Playing right into our enemies handbook.
He already has been. Ask yourself....why hasn't DeSantis insisted on an audit of the 2020 election in Florida? There WAS cheating here. They just couldn't get ahead of the numbers of true votes to cheat enough! Why HASN'T our Governor set the example of auditing our election process in FL????
FL has benefited from population shifts - people fleeing blue states... Working class and non-Cuban brown Hispanics will NOT vote for a white guy in a suit who is not named Trump...
Valid point or not, Trump is often his worst enemy. His narcissism is a major turnoff for loyal Conservative voters.
If we are to have any hope in the 2024 election, he should zip his lips over any criticism about Ron DeSantis. I fear his ego outweighs party loyalty or the country’s future!
He still needs to come clean on the gene therapy "vax" injuries and deaths. A very large number of folks see that as a hard line. If he's lucky, a year from now the "prosecute anyone that asked for COVID amnesty" narrative will be too great for him to keep boasting about his success with warp(ed brain) speed.
Agreed. It's a hard line for me. His ego is also a huge turnoff but could be overcome for me if not for the Warp Speed stuff. I'm on the fence atm, but it's not looking good. DeSantis has none of these issues and I am an enthusiastic fan.
(For background, I don't consider myself a Republican or even really much of a conservative, but I'm certainly also NOT a Dem-- but used to be in my youth. FWIW, there are MANY just like me that I am in online political groups with.)
Not trying to argue, just curious. When you say you are not an R what is it that holds you back? What does 'R' mean to you? I get that the national party is a joke, and that communicating what 'being a R' actually means has been terrible.
Just for reference point, I became an R in the Reagan years, as the idea of individual liberty (vs the 'collective') and smaller government and lower taxes appealed to me. I know the party has failed to deliver on those promises, both side spend like drunken sailors, but I still work for and support candidates who do hold those ideals and actually stick to them (more of them are at state and local than national though). And all of those do have an R by their name.
As a Christian who understands the truth of God’s Word I could never vote for a Democrat. They are the anti-God party of killing babies, destruction of the nuclear family, 73+ genders, pushing transgenderism and drag queens on children; in short, the party of death and destruction.
There is no simple answer to your question. Briefly, I am not a fan of the two-party system, for one thing (that would require a whole book of an explanation).
I am also very independent minded and don't really fit into any of the boxes that people like to put themselves and others into-- though I do agree with most of the R voices I am hearing these days.
Additionally, I don't have any strong feelings about the abortion issue one way or another (both "sides" make some good points imo), and the obsession that most Rs seem to have with that issue really turns me off, plus is very hard to defend against when discussing politics with my staunch D friends who may otherwise be persuaded by some of the other R points.
But your question "What does R mean to you?" is a good one. It's also one that I would love to pose to my D friends and I bet I would get a lot of answers that I would consider far from reality-based. There really are a lot of myths out there amongst Ds as to what an R actually is (I blame inane propaganda machines like Occupy Democrats in large part for that-- and the media, of course, which is just another propaganda machine, obviously). You're right that the Rs have a major communications problem, but again, that's largely due to the mainstream media.
Let's face it! The GOP is as crooked as a dog's hind leg. THEY are still calling the shots because they're still the elites. That's why they NEVER accomplish anything of substance when they get in power. They're all part of the same coin as the Dems. Trump bucks that and they hate him for that. He is sold out to seeing CITIZENS have THEIR power in this nation. DeSantis is part of the GOP. Enough said!
This has nothing to do with ego. A narcissist does not set aside all of his personal power, reputation and finances to insist that our nation be brought back to a true Republic. NO OTHER individual has ever done that. He's trying to bring out some truths that are escaping folks not digging for themselves!
When you can't afford food, or fuel, have no heat, and the crime is such that you have to stayed locked in your home, will Trump's personality really be the thing that is still of first importance to you?
He does have a valid point, mine is not about the votes, but about the chasm his post and future posts will create and that is not cool with me. We need both to work together, not separately.
That is a good point. Midterms, even hotly contested ones, generally have lower voter turnout than presidential elections so that may indeed have had an effect on the numbers.
True. Except here in our area of Florida we waited in line over two hours to vote in person. Poll workers were shocked and had never seen this kind of a turn out to vote in person. It was AWESOME! It was like that in many locations all day long.
We’ve voted two times so far in Florida and there was never any line. So we were shocked to see what was happening. Plus we were seeing the same thing at various locations around town, and hearing it had been going on all day like that. Any other time waiting in line for two hours would’ve been a drag….but not for this….and not at this time in history! We were excited to stand in line and have to wait. Because it meant people were being intentional about their voting!
Btw have you seen the final #s for Miami-Dade and Palm Beach counties? For my earlier longer post on here, I am using them as my BASELINE IDIOT estimates as the elections and voters rolls are going to be fairly clean in FL and Cubans are a unique demographic...
Trump always has a reason for doing something. We don’t always understand why it’s happening at the time, but it usually becomes clear down the road. In this case, he’s probably just baiting the press, which he loves to do. That being said, as much as I love Trump, I personally wish that anything he said about DeSantis was to simply acknowledge the great job that DeSantis has done in Florida and let it go  at that. There is plenty of fodder to bait the press that would galvanize voters! Going after DeSantis is not one of them.
Yes the insanity trying to split conservatives. DO NOT FALL FOR IT TURN OFF THE TV. The media will do all it can to split us up. We have to stand together no matter what.
Not only turn off the TV.
stop funding them with your cable subscription.
Get a free streaming service and pay for what you want!!!
What free services do you use? We don’t pay for anything right now, which means we aren’t watching much except some yt stuff.
I dumped my sat dish last year, and got a Roku. I pay for the ad-free Hulu.
Personally, I've been into watching the 80/90s sitcoms. My latest binge watching is Home Improvement, with Tim Allen. Timeless laughs.
I also got Foxnation- but only to watch Tucker Carlson. (also commercial-free)
And I recently installed Rumble via my Roku and was watching Charlie Kirk on election day.
Oh, and I also hit up the local used bookstore and stocked up on reading material, and just turned the boob tube off completely. My life is so much calmer. :)
For Fox stuff, go to Rumble via Roku and subscribe to Foxmuldernews. You can get what you want commercial free there, including Gutfeld which is awesome. We also watch Real America Voice and OAN via Roku (have to pay 4.99/mth for OAN, but it's worth it, and since they keep getting banned, I look at it like a donation.
Thank you! I miss Gutfeld, now I can watch him again. :)
Ditto!
If you are looking for a wholesome show to watch look for Heartland. It’s on Roku. I even got my husband hooked. And there’s more than 20 seasons so it will keep you occupied for a while.
We watched all of it. Was good. Til I found out it was produced by Canadian Gov't. Also gets into climate change and such in later episodes. Made me angry.
Wow, great suggestions. Noted.
We have Roku and thru that, Epoch Times TV. We especially like "American Thought Leaders " thru Epoch tv.
Watched Dr Ryan Cole, a pathologist, speak for an hour. Jaw dropping!
Excellent, I didn't know Epoch Times was on Roku, thanks!
I didn't know that either! We have Roku, so we'll have to try that tonight when we watch American Thought Leaders! Update: Already tried it and it works! No more watching on the computer!
Dr Cole is an incredible and humble Christian doctor. He has acted and spoken with courage and at great risk to himself.
I dumped cable and went with ROKU ~ love it!
I love my Roku. I'll search out a few tv series or movies and then when I have several on one premium channel ("Starz" or whatever) I'll subscribe for a month or two, watch what I want, then cancel. Some have a 7, 14, or 30 day free trials, too. I like tubi, freevee and the free subscriptions to discovery+ (husband likes some shows there), Peacock and Paramount+. I also have a yearly subscription to PureFlix when it went on sale. I have the YouTube, Rumble and odyssee apps installed.
Discovery+ is good too.
We dumped cable a year ago too.
We pay for OAN. How refreshing that was on election night. We do not watch Fox, Newsmax or any others. They are all garbage. We also have a Roku tv. We also got a fire stick. I hate Amazon but we only pay for what we want. We don’t do any of that Alexa garbage.
If you have Roku, look for the Pluto channel. They do have ads, but live tv, OAN, War Room, Real America's Voice, and a lot of variety, from current to classics.
Pluto is very lgbt friendly... some of their ads are atrocious! we have to mute them frequently, but they have a lot of the shows we like for free!
I can ignore movies or shows with which I disagree, but the ads! It has happened suddenly. The campaign ads were overwhelming, but they've been replaced with "can I unsee that?" pharma ads. (The funny thing is, on these 'drugs for everything' commercials, they tell about every single possible complication -including death - yet there is never a peep about complications when they are dancing and singing for the almighty injections. It's a miracle concoction!)
I think it's nearly impossible to find any broadcast media that hasn't bought into the ESG, CRT, LBGT agendas. The only option is to throw the TV out the window, along with the cell phone. Coming soon!
Thanks for the heads up. We refuse to use them then. We’ll keep doing what we’re doing and not subject ourselves to that crap.
Thanks! We’ll take a look!!
Just bought a ROKU box .. thanks for this. I pay OVER 300 a month for cable... freaking crazy.
That $300 per month goes to fund...CNN, MSNBC, Diznee and all sorts of woke crap.
As in 300 dollars a month? As in $3,600 a year? As in $36,000 over ten years? As in $108,000 over the life of a thirty year mortgage?
Someone must really love you? Guess who?
Holy crap. I’ll take that extra $250 a month and send you stuff in the mail to read
https://ustv247.tv/ if you can launch a browser from you TV.
Works great on a browser from a computer
Roku
My LG smart tv has nearly 900 free channels, including Newsmax, Hallmark, etc.
how do you get free channels on a smart tv? I have one and don't see any free channels.
My LG Smart TV has XUMO. If your remote is like mine, there is a house button. When you click on it, it tells you the internet apps you can download like Youtube or Netflix. But there should be a button for directions on your Smart TV to use XUMO. Or you could google for how to use XUMO on an LG Smart TV if yours is different from mine. I used to buy Amazon Prime for the tv/movies, but no need to now. One app that I downloaded was FreeBe (sp?) it also has a lot of movies with commercials.
Edit because I just saw you can go to settings, go to channels, and turn on LG Channels. Do not feel to bad. I did not find this until a year into my new TV.
Peacock, freevee, Plutotv
Yes, I have a smart tv and see nothing free. We have had Hulu for a year and a half and the price has gone up twice. $75 a month for 75 channels and live sports is too much for me. Hubby won’t give up his Fox News, I have no idea why.
Subscribe to FOX News and stream on tv via ROKU. I don't care about FNC live, but subscribed to FOX Nation to get Tucker Carlson Tonight, Tucker Carlson Today and Tucker Carlson Originals with next day delay via ROKU.
He can just watch via Fox News app. No need for tv service. It’ll give you the live stuff
As Jeff suggests, "they" are trying to split conservatives between DeSantis and Trump, with the GOPe/RINO/UniParty wing of the GOP firmly behind DeSantis (check out who is funding his war chest) and the America First/MAGA populist wing behind Trump.
Yep. They can push Trump out, get DeSantis out of Fla and do to him what they did and are still doing to Trump, throw in a rhino or two back in Fla and try and change the state back to blue.
Nailed it 🎯
Right on, Jw.
Ha! Ha! And so Right! And continue to flush us down the sewer while they are at it.
Trump is doing a good job himself of trying to split off DeSantis supporters by his vindictive threats to spill the beans on him -
During an interview with Fox News Digital published Tuesday -
“I don’t know if he is running. I think if he runs, he could hurt himself very badly. I really believe he could hurt himself badly,” Trump said. “I think he would be making a mistake, I think the base would not like it — I don’t think it would be good for the party.”
Trump then alluded to exposing some dirt on DeSantis without specifying.
“I would tell you things about him that won’t be very flattering — I know more about him than anybody — other than, perhaps, his wife,” Trump said.
This marks the second time in less than a week that the former president has hit at Ron DeSantis after referring to him as “Ron DeSantimonious” during a rally over the weekend."
How can one gloss over such malicious insinuations when considering a president? Today he's blaming his wife for Oz' defeat by her "poor advice". In addition to which his fans seem quite blind to his refusal to acknowledge the devastating adverse events of the vaccines he continues to praise. A pity at his age he hasn't been able to overcome his overweening pride.
In my mind this shows how Trump is in it only for himself. His ego gets in the way. He is NOT STRATEGIC on behalf of the Republican Party at all. I would like to see a higher caliber Candidate for the Conservatives in 2024 (than Trump). He is too divisive, has a loose undisciplined tongue, isn’t polished nor impressive with the way he conducts business or makes decisions, he even reveals security concerns if he thinks it’ll show he’s an important man. It’s ridiculous. He’s a loose canon. We need someone who can reach across the aisle when needed to influence behaviors. Trump isn’t that.
Couldn’t agree with this more!!
Re: Trump & his behavior towards DeSantis. I’ve posted on his TruthSocial my plea to HUSH! Stop the rhetoric that damages the both!!!
I warned him he’ll lose MAGAS such as me.
I like his NYC street-fighter persona in busting up the Deep State; he needs to concentrate on finishing that job!
Join ranks w/ the best governor in America!
Not come across as jealous of him.
Trump is Trump
DeSantis is DeSantis
We need both strong
there are still a lot of people with TDS. i wonder if some of his pre-election negative desantis comments were actually helpful in garnering votes for desantis.
I agree a divided house cannot stand. However, truth is so important. Just as Jeff shared that the establishment is stretching the truth with the narrative after the election, I believe the truth needs to be told about donor monies. Trump is angry because many of his donors have left him and given to Desantis. This summer this was reported and you can check it yourself with the donor lists.
Trump wasn’t running a campaign, DeSantis was. I’m sure the money will shift back to Trump now that the DeSantis race is over.
Where do you go to find donor lists?
The Federal Election Commission has a website where you can look them up. I think it is a bit behind as candidates report either monthly or quarterly. I think this is the best link: https://www.fec.gov/data/receipts/individual-contributions/?two_year_transaction_period=2020&min_date=01%2F01%2F2019&max_date=12%2F31%2F2020
Duh! I appreciate you taking the time to answer my question and for providing the url...
Trump needs to just get out of it. He's too old and too divisive. Anyone can see this from how much we still talk about him after 2 years of him not being in office.
To be fair, we talk about Trump because of all the democrats and RINO’s hatred towards him and their intense desire to hang him for something. Jan 6 and the raids on his home and businesses since Biden took office were not done by Republicans and this narrative is being incessantly pushed by democrats, the main stream media and the far left liberals. I personally think he needs to tone it down some and show some humility, but he is in fight mode (I think) for his life as he’s known it. I mean they’re trying to ruin him, his businesses, his kids... I’d be fighting too.
We turned off our TV over four years ago and haven't turned it on since - at all, even for one second. We don't miss it at all.
We only turn ours on to stream an occasional movie or documentary. I don't miss it either. I don't like wallowing in the sewer.
I am in regular contact with many vocal conservatives ... we mostly feel the same about this “issue”, are just waiting to see which way we go ... both desantis and trump are strong leaders. I prefer the former because I had good time to witness trump weaknesses and honestly he’s a bit old and battle worn. Desantis is shiny and new and very inspiring! Anyway, I do not see this as much of a thing to worry over
Agree, not to worry over. Soap Opera for the MSM..
Not Real.
Problem is, DeSantis will be bought and paid for by his big money donors. I don’t think he’ll be able to do what needs to be done, nor will he even be allowed to try. Trump can be independent enough and will at least try.
DeSantis means RINO GOPe in control and nothing really gets done. Just an illusion here and there. Trump means some great ideas but with the unrelenting hatred coming from his own party, the press and the Democrats, it will be very difficult to achieve what needs to be done.
I will support either, but I fundamentally disagree with the festival of hate on either side.
If you're in Sydney and you hear someone yelling TURN OFF YOUR TV, that's me trying to break the spell on these outdoor maskers.
Cases are going up this week here during Spring!! and of course heaps of outdoor maskers started to reappear.
Praise the Lord!
Praise the Lord, O my soul!
I will praise the Lord while I live;
I will sing praises to my God while I have my being.
Do not trust in princes,
In mortal man, in whom there is no salvation.
His spirit departs, he returns to the earth;
In that very day his thoughts perish.
How blessed is he whose help is the God of Jacob,
Whose hope is in the Lord his God,
Who made heaven and earth,
The sea and all that is in them;
Who keeps faith forever;
Who executes justice for the oppressed;
Who gives food to the hungry.
The Lord sets the prisoners free.
— Psalm 146:1-7 NASB1995
Amen! Blessed be the name of the LORD our God! He gives peace and joy in the midst of chaos!
The devil sets prisoners free too... For a short time until God finishes them off.
Yeah! About not making False Idols. And like that song ... 'when will they ever learn'!
Van Morrison?
Amen! Thank you, Janice
@Jeff, I saw Trump's post from yesterday on Truth Social where he states:
"Now that the Election in Florida is over, and everything went quite well, shouldn't it be said that in 2020, I got 1.1 Million more votes in Florida than Ron D got this year, 5.7 Million to 4.6 Million? Just asking?"
Why is he making it a competition? We really need them to be fighting united. They BOTH are super important to the freedom and peace of our country. Why can't they work together? Or is he simply seeing DeSantis as a threat to his presidency in 2024? What is your take on that?
PDJT is doing Ron a favor ...
Chinese Proverb
A diamond cannot be polished without friction, nor the man perfected without trials.
Constructive criticism serves to keep Ron on his MAGA toes.
I like that. Furthermore, assuming Don and Ron are talking, they need to strategize how to preemptively counter any Dem or RINO strategies to cause division. I hope they are that smart.
I just don’t understand why Trump can’t run in 2024 Then Ron run in 2028. To me that’s the best plan. Have both back eachother up with endorsements.
All politicians know to strike while the iron is hot. Many waited and were an afterthought four years later. No idea if Desantis wants to run now, but politically speaking, this would be the best time. Personally, I am sure he is weighing the fact that he has young children and a wife who just beat cancer and is probably still suffering after effects of chem.
I have to disagree...the hatred for Trump is so profound that it does cause undecideds and Independents to either not vote or vote for the opposition.
Maybe how the Veggie wars was lost in Penn... platter vs actual
Trump did his part but now the ego has to step aside, IMHO
Disappointed in myself that I didn't come up with Veggie wars!
Totally agree. I’m conservative and I love DeSantis but I can’t stand Trump. There are lots like me. I’m not sure if I could ever bring myself to vote for him.
Yes! Paaallleeeeze!!! Work together!! For the good of this country and to save it!!
I like it! Interesting way to view it.
It seems to me that DeSantis has had plenty of trails just running the great state of Florida which has polished him and brought him to where he is today. I don’t pretend to be always current with the news, so I am curious about what constructive criticism you have seen from Trump regarding DeSantis.
Think of PDJT as a coach.
A coach will push and sometimes yell at a team mate to correct mistakes.
The DeSantimonius jab was in response to campaign ad by DeSantis that had a lot of people scratching their heads.
Politics does not operate by kindergarten rules. Sharp pointy elbows are often involved.
Which ad. As a Floridian and a huge fan I thought I had seen them all.
this is the one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKH54DIAap8
This ad appeals to me because I remember the original Paul Harvey poem, "So God made a Farmer". It has positive connotations for me so perhaps the campaign ad was targeted at my generation? My family listened to Paul Harvey and "The Rest of the Story" all the time. Today I like Mike Rowe's "The Way I Heard it" for the same reason. My guess is this ad was not targeted towards your demographic.
I heard it got pulled from the airwaves because of the response to it...
Thank you.
Trump has a valid point if what you mean is that he got 5.7 Million votes and DeSantis got 4.6 Million votes this year... Also, many people have since moved to FL from Blue States - DeSantis should have done better and he ran against a fake candidate who is a Cameleon...
everyone knows that presidential elections turn out more voters. Trump will lose support on the road that he is on. He is already maxed out his following. People either love or hate him. He will lose middle of the road people if he keeps going after DeSantis for no reason. I could list 500 other republicans that are in front of DeSantis for him to worry about. If he wanted support, he should have something like this "All current republican governors should contact DeSantis and ask him for the playbook on how to make a state go deep red. He has done a fantastic job in Florida as governor"
YES!!! THIS!!! Why not maximize the voters together!! You nailed it! I cannot for the life of me understand why he would try and pick a fight with DeSantis other than ego. Put the country first. That is what his whole Presidency was about. Do not try to divide the people on this. Team up and stand together to save this country!
With the full backing and protection of the GOP branch of the Uniparty machine, with their desperate need to finish off Donald Trump, DeSantis has done a decent job in Florida as Governor. But nothing beyond what any decent human should do and with many things not sufficiently addressed, such as Florida becoming the Abortion Capital of the Southeast. And Governor being a position he first obtained, because of the endorsement he finally had to reluctantly request from Trump.
So we Trump supporters should sit down and shut up, huh? I don’t want another George W. Bush faux conservative candidate, thank you.
Do you live in Florida? "Decent"? Who did better? He made the state going from bluish-purple to solidly red and a freedom destination the world can dream about. I supported Trump with all might, but he's doing the biggest mistake nipping at Desantis.. Playing right into our enemies handbook.
"Decent human being." That'd put him ahead of all the other likely uniparty candidates.
True but look at where we are as a country? One semi competent governor who uses moderate common sense and people are ready to anoint him President!
Exactly! They may also have something on DeSantis plus he is not rich - meaning he can be bought, blackmailed or threatened...
He already has been. Ask yourself....why hasn't DeSantis insisted on an audit of the 2020 election in Florida? There WAS cheating here. They just couldn't get ahead of the numbers of true votes to cheat enough! Why HASN'T our Governor set the example of auditing our election process in FL????
Do you live in Florida?
Oooh, I like that last line of advice to Trump. Tell the govs to contact DeSantis.
Oh that our allegedly red gov here would. But he won’t because he is actually royal blue.
Yes I love Trump BUT I love DeSantis!!! I wish Trump would just leave DeSantis alone..... It is not endearing to the rest of us
Amen, to Hollis’ comment.
FL has benefited from population shifts - people fleeing blue states... Working class and non-Cuban brown Hispanics will NOT vote for a white guy in a suit who is not named Trump...
Not a playbook that can be hijacked. But 1:1 mentoring...
Valid point or not, Trump is often his worst enemy. His narcissism is a major turnoff for loyal Conservative voters.
If we are to have any hope in the 2024 election, he should zip his lips over any criticism about Ron DeSantis. I fear his ego outweighs party loyalty or the country’s future!
He still needs to come clean on the gene therapy "vax" injuries and deaths. A very large number of folks see that as a hard line. If he's lucky, a year from now the "prosecute anyone that asked for COVID amnesty" narrative will be too great for him to keep boasting about his success with warp(ed brain) speed.
Agreed. It's a hard line for me. His ego is also a huge turnoff but could be overcome for me if not for the Warp Speed stuff. I'm on the fence atm, but it's not looking good. DeSantis has none of these issues and I am an enthusiastic fan.
(For background, I don't consider myself a Republican or even really much of a conservative, but I'm certainly also NOT a Dem-- but used to be in my youth. FWIW, there are MANY just like me that I am in online political groups with.)
Not trying to argue, just curious. When you say you are not an R what is it that holds you back? What does 'R' mean to you? I get that the national party is a joke, and that communicating what 'being a R' actually means has been terrible.
Just for reference point, I became an R in the Reagan years, as the idea of individual liberty (vs the 'collective') and smaller government and lower taxes appealed to me. I know the party has failed to deliver on those promises, both side spend like drunken sailors, but I still work for and support candidates who do hold those ideals and actually stick to them (more of them are at state and local than national though). And all of those do have an R by their name.
As a Christian who understands the truth of God’s Word I could never vote for a Democrat. They are the anti-God party of killing babies, destruction of the nuclear family, 73+ genders, pushing transgenderism and drag queens on children; in short, the party of death and destruction.
There is no simple answer to your question. Briefly, I am not a fan of the two-party system, for one thing (that would require a whole book of an explanation).
I am also very independent minded and don't really fit into any of the boxes that people like to put themselves and others into-- though I do agree with most of the R voices I am hearing these days.
Additionally, I don't have any strong feelings about the abortion issue one way or another (both "sides" make some good points imo), and the obsession that most Rs seem to have with that issue really turns me off, plus is very hard to defend against when discussing politics with my staunch D friends who may otherwise be persuaded by some of the other R points.
But your question "What does R mean to you?" is a good one. It's also one that I would love to pose to my D friends and I bet I would get a lot of answers that I would consider far from reality-based. There really are a lot of myths out there amongst Ds as to what an R actually is (I blame inane propaganda machines like Occupy Democrats in large part for that-- and the media, of course, which is just another propaganda machine, obviously). You're right that the Rs have a major communications problem, but again, that's largely due to the mainstream media.
I am personally more libertarian, but that only elects liberals.
All I really want for Christmas is to cut 90% of the federal government.
Shrink it that much and the opportunity for fraud and corruption essentially vanishes.
Let's face it! The GOP is as crooked as a dog's hind leg. THEY are still calling the shots because they're still the elites. That's why they NEVER accomplish anything of substance when they get in power. They're all part of the same coin as the Dems. Trump bucks that and they hate him for that. He is sold out to seeing CITIZENS have THEIR power in this nation. DeSantis is part of the GOP. Enough said!
1000% agree
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This has nothing to do with ego. A narcissist does not set aside all of his personal power, reputation and finances to insist that our nation be brought back to a true Republic. NO OTHER individual has ever done that. He's trying to bring out some truths that are escaping folks not digging for themselves!
When you can't afford food, or fuel, have no heat, and the crime is such that you have to stayed locked in your home, will Trump's personality really be the thing that is still of first importance to you?
Not at all, but his personality may tear the cohesiveness, thats needed to WIN, in 2024, apart.
Right on, Vicki!
100%
He does have a valid point, mine is not about the votes, but about the chasm his post and future posts will create and that is not cool with me. We need both to work together, not separately.
The people who run the GOP wing of the Uniparty don't want to work together with us unless it means us supporting them and their candidates...
This!
Good points. That's a yuge gap. Although it is apples to oranges, as a presidential race brings out more voters than a midterm.
That is a good point. Midterms, even hotly contested ones, generally have lower voter turnout than presidential elections so that may indeed have had an effect on the numbers.
True. Except here in our area of Florida we waited in line over two hours to vote in person. Poll workers were shocked and had never seen this kind of a turn out to vote in person. It was AWESOME! It was like that in many locations all day long.
That is amazing!! I waited in line for 1.5 hours around noon, which I thought was surprising in my state.
We’ve voted two times so far in Florida and there was never any line. So we were shocked to see what was happening. Plus we were seeing the same thing at various locations around town, and hearing it had been going on all day like that. Any other time waiting in line for two hours would’ve been a drag….but not for this….and not at this time in history! We were excited to stand in line and have to wait. Because it meant people were being intentional about their voting!
Wow. That’s nuts. I waited 20 min.
Btw have you seen the final #s for Miami-Dade and Palm Beach counties? For my earlier longer post on here, I am using them as my BASELINE IDIOT estimates as the elections and voters rolls are going to be fairly clean in FL and Cubans are a unique demographic...
Trump always has a reason for doing something. We don’t always understand why it’s happening at the time, but it usually becomes clear down the road. In this case, he’s probably just baiting the press, which he loves to do. That being said, as much as I love Trump, I personally wish that anything he said about DeSantis was to simply acknowledge the great job that DeSantis has done in Florida and let it go  at that. There is plenty of fodder to bait the press that would galvanize voters! Going after DeSantis is not one of them.
Trump is kind of an egomaniac. Can't let anyone do anything "better" or more "yugely" than he.
I just accept him for being who he is.