Jeff, I love your substack, but your talk about the “them” who took the shots and then came around, and whether you should forgive “them” or what not is upsetting. You are self-employed and living in Florida. You had the luxury of making the choice not to get the shot and (hopefully) not suffer any great repercussions. This is not the ca…
Jeff, I love your substack, but your talk about the “them” who took the shots and then came around, and whether you should forgive “them” or what not is upsetting. You are self-employed and living in Florida. You had the luxury of making the choice not to get the shot and (hopefully) not suffer any great repercussions. This is not the case for the vast majority of population. We are a family of four formerly living in California. The shots were mandated for both of my sons. The choice we had was either to give them the shot or have them sit in their room, all alone, unable to come out for over a year. If that is not a recipe for mental health problems, I don’t know what is. My husband and I, both retired and not personally under any pressure, took the shots first, to see if we develop any side effects, so the boys could then try and claim some sort of medical exemption if they can. I developed paresthesia which has still not gone away. My husband is now suffering from pretty bad tinnitus. When the boosters were announced we pulled our kids, packed up and moved to a “backwater” state where we are thankfully left alone. My younger son was aiming for Stanford and Princeton, and is now applying to a local college where the kids and the teaching standards are quite below his ability. I could continue with this litany of what we lost by moving, but I won’t. I don’t need anyone’s forgiveness.
So they can just run the same playbook again without consequence?? This attitude is why we are debating basic reality about what defines a man and a woman. Let justice roll like a river...
And no, for the record, if your rights were/are violated you should go for the maximum penalties available, civil or criminal. If they can get away with this what’s next?
But let’s apply that across the board, not just to our own pet circumstances and causes.
Brahms I so relate to this. I took the shots in spring of 2021 because my daughter was a recruited athlete and was going to have to be fully vaxxed to play - at a college that didn't even require it! - and I wanted to be the "guinea pig." I developed a reaction (autoimmune, rashes, swollen lymph nodes) to the first but it cleared by the time I was due for the second, and I went ahead. I had serious side effects - sudden RA, constant rashes and swelling - for almost a year. On the bad side my daughter did take the initial series even still because of timing and NCAA requirement. On the good side based on my experience the rest of my family took none! and she hasn't taken any boosters and obviously I haven't either.
We all did our best in our situation. I don't expect pity or understanding and if people want to judge, that's fine. I did it for my kids (and I found out the hard way).
Thank you and I am sorry about your health. I knew we weren’t the only ones. My sons also had to take the initial shots. Thankfully, we are all alive, which is good enough for me :)
My family has all taken the first 2 shots, my son forced into 3 by his Boston college. He got that booster while sick with Covid ( because $cience!?). My husband required to for work.
I regret doing it everyday, but the young adults really believed we would all die without a shot. A panic, an irrational fear I could not talk them out of. I have been extremely skeptical of vaccines since my oldest was a baby, and I would not have gotten this one but I could not overcome the propaganda. I passed out cold the day after my second shot and then I was furious! Four days later one son developed tinnitus. I was so stupid and weak. That will never happen again! I am hoping our batches were light on the poison which is plausible since the temperature they require is hard to maintain. We all seem to be ok for now.
I am 100% against mandates and masks and I support anyone who did not want a shot. I did not want or need a shot.
So, yes. there are people here who took the shot for various reasons and their kids got it too. I for one refused to show a vaccine card to do anything, even though I ‘qualified’. No way was I going to dignify papers to participate in society.
I sympathise so very deeply with your story, and with what was shared by those who've replied to your original comment.
I can also imagine that it's difficult, for those who were compelled and coerced to be injected, to read certain stack comments.
Comments loaded up with slings and arrows aimed directly at your already wounded hearts, and minds.
I'm so very sorry.
I have an older sister, whom I choose to see very rarely but I was compelled to, yesterday, by a "family thing".
I would normally simply decline these types of invitations, as I always regret "going along to get along". It always ends badly whenever I acquiesce.
But anyway: I agreed so...
During that unfortunate shopping expedition, and I don't recall exactly how the subject of Covid vaccinations came up, my sister loudly proclaimed (in a very quiet little STORE):
"NO ONE WAS FORCED!!!" to get vaccinated.
Whoah there sister!!!
I beg to differ, and I did so, equally sharply.
She tried to continue arguing her "side" but as she's an idiot, you know what happens when one argues with an idiot, right?
I declined to continue. Walked away.
The level of ignorance my sister displayed, regarding the subject matter, was simply too astounding. I'll save you the painful recounting.
Rhetorical questions:
Should I forgive my sister's nastiness and ignorance?
Should I try to educate her, after not speaking to her since the last time she very loudly and publicly shit all over me, during a family Christmas dinner, nearly 3 years ago now?
Should I forgive my sister's ill-informed, misinformed, disinformed opinion regarding the vaccine mandates which have so deeply divided our country, and our family?
Should I forgive the Canadian government which deliberately (and illegally) discriminated against unvaccinated citizens?
Should I forgive my Prime Minister, and my provincial Health Authorities, for vilifying us?
Should I forgive the businesses which banned us, segregated us, and fired us?
Should I forgive my sister, given that she CHOOSES only to "know what's going on in the world" from listening to propaganda sown by MSM Talking Heads, bought and paid for by Big Pharma and government subsidies?
Should I choose to forgive her, given that she has always been a stupid, fearful, mean spirited, spiteful, ignorant, and incurious little woman, who cannot be tolerated, even by her children and grandchildren, for more that 5 minutes?
Should I really? Given that her lack of curiosity and native intelligence (must naturally have) prevented her from learning one damned thing, for 65 years?
Should she be forgiven, given that it was a fearful nature, willful ignorance, and lack of native intelligence and curiosity which, for 25 years, has prevented her from ever owning, or learning how to operate, a computer, much less a cellular phone???
Given ALL of that information: Should my sister really be forgiven for her astonishing and vociferous opinion regarding (forced) vaccine mandates in Canada?
Should I really need to spend any time at all arguing with that nasty little piece of work who literally sucks the oxygen out of any room she enters, instantly making me, as well as other family members, suddenly feel nauseous?
Naw!
However, every now and again: I get COERCED.
I get SUCKED into her vicious, vacuous vortex. (Followed by instant regret.
Hang tough. ❤ Your family loves you and you did your best, for all concerned.
Thank you for sharing your truth. What you've experienced is the case for millions. Many citizens were/are forced into extreme situations with poor outcomes on all alternatives.
I am of the belief that making people feel bad about taking the shot is both cruel and hurts everyone. I am not a judge in their life. For me, share the truth, leave the punishment and judgements.
My heart goes out to the many millions(billions worldwide), who had to make monstrous decisions under the extreme duress placed upon them. I’m in Florida, retired, no dependents. I know my story might be very different otherwise. I would never have believed taking the jab was the right thing to do. Yet I can imagine what a difficult decision I would have had, if it affected my ability to provide for those I love.
I’m somewhat proud not to have caved, but humble in knowing I didn’t face that much pressure in comparison to so many.
Same here. I knew early on that it was a horrible scam but other than some unwanted isolation I did not have to make any hard choices. Meanwhile I watched friend after friend cave to the shots because they couldn’t quit their jobs mostly. One friend did leave his job and he was so close to retirement and full benefits but he stuck to his guns and 10 months later he was rehired ! One couple I knew resisted the shots until their son gave an ultimatum that they could not see their first grandbaby unless they got the shots. So they did and now the grandpa says that he has pain in every joint he ever previously injured. Anyway, the ones who self-righteously pushed it I have little sympathy for but the ones who were coerced by life circumstances I do feel sad for. Let’s just hope and pray that Geert Whatshisname is wrong about what’s coming.
Credenda I also struggle with those who were horrible about the jab. My hubby almost got it until I sobbed and begged him not to do it. His school district is fairly conservative and gave an exemption for the jab to every employee who submitted one. And I live in WA state! His sister told him to his face that she just wanted him and all the unvaxxed to die-which included me and also her nephew. She died of breast cancer after being in remission for years before the jab. I feel guilty because my base nature says serves you right! Yet my Christian heart weeps for her ignorance that killed her. One of my sons and his girlfriend had twins July 2020. We were allowed to see them 5 times, with masks on only. When we refused the vaccine they stopped allowing us to see them at all. My son does talk to us still, but had the balls to say to us that "no one ever said the jabs would stop transmission". I didn't yell but I came dang close educating him on how wrong he was. We have "zoomed" with the babies three times in the time since we would not get vaxxed and they cut us off. (We live in the same town) At first I thought I would die from the pain of the loss, but when asked why I just didn't get the jab I instantly said NO, it is from the pit of hell and no one will make me take it unless they hold me down and force it into my arm. I would have starved to death before taking it. I would have divorced my husband if he had done it and said the only way he would stay married was if I took it. So yes, every individual has had a different circumstance surrounding their decision to take the jab; I do wish that more of the "I took it to work, etc" would acknowledge that they were duped and truly wake up. They just want to be like, well that was terrible, let's move on, and I think no way, there has to be some kind of justice!!
Thanks for sharing this story of what your family went thru during covid. I have lived in CA all my life. I am a medical professional and my husband has a business of 50+ years here. We have grandsons that are school age now and we, along with my adult kids, spouses and grandsons, are moving to another state where we will be left alone with our medical choice. CA is a lost cause and will be mandating these outrageous shots for our kids now that the crazy CDC has added them to the vaccine list for kids. I applaud you and your family for your choice and pray for everything to work out with your sons education dreams.
It's a kind of reverse discrimination that is most unfortunate. I didn't believe in the shots, railed against them, argued for treatment rather than a rushed vaccine, but as the proverbial "grandma" I didn't want all of my friends and family to be uncomfortable, I didn't want to be excluded, I didn't want to "stubbornly" refuse to comply which I've done regarding medical interventions all my life, I didn't want to be prevented from seeing my two grandchildren, ages 7 and 3, forever, and so with the excuse that "I'm not always right", i.e., I could be wrong about this, I took the 2 Moderna shots. I admired people like my tree guys, my plumber, my attorney, and my piano movers, never caring that they didn't wear masks and who didn't take the vax. I am now in a medical pickle, with a lymph node that won't stop swelling and a suggestion that it's a vaccine injury and possibly cancer. It's annoying to be othered, but I know my own truth and this is not something I have to repent about. Not even close. And those two jabs have not been effective at separating me from my God, so there's that.
You reminded me of Romans 31:38-39. "38. And I am convinced that nothing can ever separate us from God’s love. Neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,[b] neither our fears for today nor our worries about tomorrow—not even the powers of hell can separate us from God’s love. 39 No power in the sky above or in the earth below—indeed, nothing in all creation will ever be able to separate us from the love of God that is revealed in Christ Jesus our Lord."
Keep sharing your story. We all have our individual hurts to work through, apologies to give, forgiveness to extend, and our own individual battle to fight. I believe that right now people are shifting seats around the table, and soon all of us will stop looking to our sides and together we will face down the demon across the table from “us”. We will rally around each other and support each other as we each tackle our individual battles.
Brahms, you’ve had some really tough choices to make, and I’m sure most of us, including Jeff, maybe all of us, don’t consider you one of “them”. What a horrible, no-win situation to be in!
However, I think Jeff was specifically talking about the “them” who thought the shots were a good thing and then changed their minds. In the case of Ben Shapiro, this meant months and months of encouraging others to trust the shots because he has a lot of “followers”.
So you’re right, you don’t need anyone’s forgiveness.
Thank you, Herr Bach. Music has great healing powers, doesn’t it? I understand the point Jeff was trying to make. My own point, not nearly as well articulated, is that it has been a horrible time in many ways for many people, and we all react to such levels of stress differently and should try not to judge. In our small family of four, three of us are now dealing with mental health problems in addition to the side effects to the shot that my husband and I have and for which there is no treatment. My older son, for example, went to an out of state college in 2020 when the most draconian policies were introduced. Because he was alone there, he became terrified of testing positive and having to quarantine (will they remember to bring him food?) He became obsessed with hand washing and germs (for example, he eats popcorn with chopsticks so he doesn’t have to touch it.) This has been going on for two years, and we are realizing it is a mental disorder that is not improving. He is not functioning very well since germs are everywhere and there’s not much he allows himself to do. He is only 20 years old, and I don’t know how he will live the rest of his life. My husband has had to deal with an incredible amount of vitriol from his large family, most of whom were educated in the best schools, are firmly democratic, and now believe we are lunatic anti-vaxxers. He has become withdrawn and angry. I have had quite a job just keeping our family together and have been dealing with extreme levels of anxiety. My point is our lives have been wrecked, and we have been dealing with the fallout in different ways. So being compassionate is a good thing, you never know what goes on in other people’s lives. In my opinion, the only people to blame are Fauci and the medical establishment, Pfizer and the Democratic party politicians. The rest of us are just dealing with this horror in any way we can.
Brahms, your story breaks my heart. Just when I think I have fully comprehended the fall out of this very dark chapter of history, I hear a new story and realize how much is left to be discovered. I am very sorry for all the suffering you and your family have endured. I am grateful every day that I had the good fortune and privilege to avoid getting jabbed against my will. With your permission, I will pray for all of you. All my best.
Jeff, I love your substack, but your talk about the “them” who took the shots and then came around, and whether you should forgive “them” or what not is upsetting. You are self-employed and living in Florida. You had the luxury of making the choice not to get the shot and (hopefully) not suffer any great repercussions. This is not the case for the vast majority of population. We are a family of four formerly living in California. The shots were mandated for both of my sons. The choice we had was either to give them the shot or have them sit in their room, all alone, unable to come out for over a year. If that is not a recipe for mental health problems, I don’t know what is. My husband and I, both retired and not personally under any pressure, took the shots first, to see if we develop any side effects, so the boys could then try and claim some sort of medical exemption if they can. I developed paresthesia which has still not gone away. My husband is now suffering from pretty bad tinnitus. When the boosters were announced we pulled our kids, packed up and moved to a “backwater” state where we are thankfully left alone. My younger son was aiming for Stanford and Princeton, and is now applying to a local college where the kids and the teaching standards are quite below his ability. I could continue with this litany of what we lost by moving, but I won’t. I don’t need anyone’s forgiveness.
I’m sorry for what you’ve been through. Next we move toward justice.
We should just make peace and not go for any kind of settlements. Move on.
So they can just run the same playbook again without consequence?? This attitude is why we are debating basic reality about what defines a man and a woman. Let justice roll like a river...
So why apply that same logic to Ukraine?
It’s not your land, family, and nation.
For the record, I’m a military dude. Still unvaccinated and working while my exemption is pending.
And no, for the record, if your rights were/are violated you should go for the maximum penalties available, civil or criminal. If they can get away with this what’s next?
But let’s apply that across the board, not just to our own pet circumstances and causes.
Putin started this in 2014.
Previous Russian dictators murdered 7 million in one year and invaded and annexed Ukraine 100 years ago.
They’re going to keep doing it unless it’s stopped
Uh. No.
Why not? It’s good enough for Ukraine, right?
We don’t want war, peace at any cost.
You seem to be trolling. Stick to the topic in the thread.
Jeff is the one who brought it up.
Peace at any cost no longer an option?
Brahms I so relate to this. I took the shots in spring of 2021 because my daughter was a recruited athlete and was going to have to be fully vaxxed to play - at a college that didn't even require it! - and I wanted to be the "guinea pig." I developed a reaction (autoimmune, rashes, swollen lymph nodes) to the first but it cleared by the time I was due for the second, and I went ahead. I had serious side effects - sudden RA, constant rashes and swelling - for almost a year. On the bad side my daughter did take the initial series even still because of timing and NCAA requirement. On the good side based on my experience the rest of my family took none! and she hasn't taken any boosters and obviously I haven't either.
We all did our best in our situation. I don't expect pity or understanding and if people want to judge, that's fine. I did it for my kids (and I found out the hard way).
Thank you and I am sorry about your health. I knew we weren’t the only ones. My sons also had to take the initial shots. Thankfully, we are all alive, which is good enough for me :)
My family has all taken the first 2 shots, my son forced into 3 by his Boston college. He got that booster while sick with Covid ( because $cience!?). My husband required to for work.
I regret doing it everyday, but the young adults really believed we would all die without a shot. A panic, an irrational fear I could not talk them out of. I have been extremely skeptical of vaccines since my oldest was a baby, and I would not have gotten this one but I could not overcome the propaganda. I passed out cold the day after my second shot and then I was furious! Four days later one son developed tinnitus. I was so stupid and weak. That will never happen again! I am hoping our batches were light on the poison which is plausible since the temperature they require is hard to maintain. We all seem to be ok for now.
I am 100% against mandates and masks and I support anyone who did not want a shot. I did not want or need a shot.
So, yes. there are people here who took the shot for various reasons and their kids got it too. I for one refused to show a vaccine card to do anything, even though I ‘qualified’. No way was I going to dignify papers to participate in society.
Anyway, yes, we did our best at the time.
I sympathise so very deeply with your story, and with what was shared by those who've replied to your original comment.
I can also imagine that it's difficult, for those who were compelled and coerced to be injected, to read certain stack comments.
Comments loaded up with slings and arrows aimed directly at your already wounded hearts, and minds.
I'm so very sorry.
I have an older sister, whom I choose to see very rarely but I was compelled to, yesterday, by a "family thing".
I would normally simply decline these types of invitations, as I always regret "going along to get along". It always ends badly whenever I acquiesce.
But anyway: I agreed so...
During that unfortunate shopping expedition, and I don't recall exactly how the subject of Covid vaccinations came up, my sister loudly proclaimed (in a very quiet little STORE):
"NO ONE WAS FORCED!!!" to get vaccinated.
Whoah there sister!!!
I beg to differ, and I did so, equally sharply.
She tried to continue arguing her "side" but as she's an idiot, you know what happens when one argues with an idiot, right?
I declined to continue. Walked away.
The level of ignorance my sister displayed, regarding the subject matter, was simply too astounding. I'll save you the painful recounting.
Rhetorical questions:
Should I forgive my sister's nastiness and ignorance?
Should I try to educate her, after not speaking to her since the last time she very loudly and publicly shit all over me, during a family Christmas dinner, nearly 3 years ago now?
Should I forgive my sister's ill-informed, misinformed, disinformed opinion regarding the vaccine mandates which have so deeply divided our country, and our family?
Should I forgive the Canadian government which deliberately (and illegally) discriminated against unvaccinated citizens?
Should I forgive my Prime Minister, and my provincial Health Authorities, for vilifying us?
Should I forgive the businesses which banned us, segregated us, and fired us?
Should I forgive my sister, given that she CHOOSES only to "know what's going on in the world" from listening to propaganda sown by MSM Talking Heads, bought and paid for by Big Pharma and government subsidies?
Should I choose to forgive her, given that she has always been a stupid, fearful, mean spirited, spiteful, ignorant, and incurious little woman, who cannot be tolerated, even by her children and grandchildren, for more that 5 minutes?
Should I really? Given that her lack of curiosity and native intelligence (must naturally have) prevented her from learning one damned thing, for 65 years?
Should she be forgiven, given that it was a fearful nature, willful ignorance, and lack of native intelligence and curiosity which, for 25 years, has prevented her from ever owning, or learning how to operate, a computer, much less a cellular phone???
Given ALL of that information: Should my sister really be forgiven for her astonishing and vociferous opinion regarding (forced) vaccine mandates in Canada?
Should I really need to spend any time at all arguing with that nasty little piece of work who literally sucks the oxygen out of any room she enters, instantly making me, as well as other family members, suddenly feel nauseous?
Naw!
However, every now and again: I get COERCED.
I get SUCKED into her vicious, vacuous vortex. (Followed by instant regret.
Hang tough. ❤ Your family loves you and you did your best, for all concerned.
Thank you for sharing your truth. What you've experienced is the case for millions. Many citizens were/are forced into extreme situations with poor outcomes on all alternatives.
I am of the belief that making people feel bad about taking the shot is both cruel and hurts everyone. I am not a judge in their life. For me, share the truth, leave the punishment and judgements.
My heart goes out to the many millions(billions worldwide), who had to make monstrous decisions under the extreme duress placed upon them. I’m in Florida, retired, no dependents. I know my story might be very different otherwise. I would never have believed taking the jab was the right thing to do. Yet I can imagine what a difficult decision I would have had, if it affected my ability to provide for those I love.
I’m somewhat proud not to have caved, but humble in knowing I didn’t face that much pressure in comparison to so many.
Same here. I knew early on that it was a horrible scam but other than some unwanted isolation I did not have to make any hard choices. Meanwhile I watched friend after friend cave to the shots because they couldn’t quit their jobs mostly. One friend did leave his job and he was so close to retirement and full benefits but he stuck to his guns and 10 months later he was rehired ! One couple I knew resisted the shots until their son gave an ultimatum that they could not see their first grandbaby unless they got the shots. So they did and now the grandpa says that he has pain in every joint he ever previously injured. Anyway, the ones who self-righteously pushed it I have little sympathy for but the ones who were coerced by life circumstances I do feel sad for. Let’s just hope and pray that Geert Whatshisname is wrong about what’s coming.
Credenda I also struggle with those who were horrible about the jab. My hubby almost got it until I sobbed and begged him not to do it. His school district is fairly conservative and gave an exemption for the jab to every employee who submitted one. And I live in WA state! His sister told him to his face that she just wanted him and all the unvaxxed to die-which included me and also her nephew. She died of breast cancer after being in remission for years before the jab. I feel guilty because my base nature says serves you right! Yet my Christian heart weeps for her ignorance that killed her. One of my sons and his girlfriend had twins July 2020. We were allowed to see them 5 times, with masks on only. When we refused the vaccine they stopped allowing us to see them at all. My son does talk to us still, but had the balls to say to us that "no one ever said the jabs would stop transmission". I didn't yell but I came dang close educating him on how wrong he was. We have "zoomed" with the babies three times in the time since we would not get vaxxed and they cut us off. (We live in the same town) At first I thought I would die from the pain of the loss, but when asked why I just didn't get the jab I instantly said NO, it is from the pit of hell and no one will make me take it unless they hold me down and force it into my arm. I would have starved to death before taking it. I would have divorced my husband if he had done it and said the only way he would stay married was if I took it. So yes, every individual has had a different circumstance surrounding their decision to take the jab; I do wish that more of the "I took it to work, etc" would acknowledge that they were duped and truly wake up. They just want to be like, well that was terrible, let's move on, and I think no way, there has to be some kind of justice!!
Thanks for sharing this story of what your family went thru during covid. I have lived in CA all my life. I am a medical professional and my husband has a business of 50+ years here. We have grandsons that are school age now and we, along with my adult kids, spouses and grandsons, are moving to another state where we will be left alone with our medical choice. CA is a lost cause and will be mandating these outrageous shots for our kids now that the crazy CDC has added them to the vaccine list for kids. I applaud you and your family for your choice and pray for everything to work out with your sons education dreams.
It's a kind of reverse discrimination that is most unfortunate. I didn't believe in the shots, railed against them, argued for treatment rather than a rushed vaccine, but as the proverbial "grandma" I didn't want all of my friends and family to be uncomfortable, I didn't want to be excluded, I didn't want to "stubbornly" refuse to comply which I've done regarding medical interventions all my life, I didn't want to be prevented from seeing my two grandchildren, ages 7 and 3, forever, and so with the excuse that "I'm not always right", i.e., I could be wrong about this, I took the 2 Moderna shots. I admired people like my tree guys, my plumber, my attorney, and my piano movers, never caring that they didn't wear masks and who didn't take the vax. I am now in a medical pickle, with a lymph node that won't stop swelling and a suggestion that it's a vaccine injury and possibly cancer. It's annoying to be othered, but I know my own truth and this is not something I have to repent about. Not even close. And those two jabs have not been effective at separating me from my God, so there's that.
You reminded me of Romans 31:38-39. "38. And I am convinced that nothing can ever separate us from God’s love. Neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,[b] neither our fears for today nor our worries about tomorrow—not even the powers of hell can separate us from God’s love. 39 No power in the sky above or in the earth below—indeed, nothing in all creation will ever be able to separate us from the love of God that is revealed in Christ Jesus our Lord."
Keep sharing your story. We all have our individual hurts to work through, apologies to give, forgiveness to extend, and our own individual battle to fight. I believe that right now people are shifting seats around the table, and soon all of us will stop looking to our sides and together we will face down the demon across the table from “us”. We will rally around each other and support each other as we each tackle our individual battles.
Brahms, you’ve had some really tough choices to make, and I’m sure most of us, including Jeff, maybe all of us, don’t consider you one of “them”. What a horrible, no-win situation to be in!
However, I think Jeff was specifically talking about the “them” who thought the shots were a good thing and then changed their minds. In the case of Ben Shapiro, this meant months and months of encouraging others to trust the shots because he has a lot of “followers”.
So you’re right, you don’t need anyone’s forgiveness.
Sincerely,
Bach ;-)
Thank you, Herr Bach. Music has great healing powers, doesn’t it? I understand the point Jeff was trying to make. My own point, not nearly as well articulated, is that it has been a horrible time in many ways for many people, and we all react to such levels of stress differently and should try not to judge. In our small family of four, three of us are now dealing with mental health problems in addition to the side effects to the shot that my husband and I have and for which there is no treatment. My older son, for example, went to an out of state college in 2020 when the most draconian policies were introduced. Because he was alone there, he became terrified of testing positive and having to quarantine (will they remember to bring him food?) He became obsessed with hand washing and germs (for example, he eats popcorn with chopsticks so he doesn’t have to touch it.) This has been going on for two years, and we are realizing it is a mental disorder that is not improving. He is not functioning very well since germs are everywhere and there’s not much he allows himself to do. He is only 20 years old, and I don’t know how he will live the rest of his life. My husband has had to deal with an incredible amount of vitriol from his large family, most of whom were educated in the best schools, are firmly democratic, and now believe we are lunatic anti-vaxxers. He has become withdrawn and angry. I have had quite a job just keeping our family together and have been dealing with extreme levels of anxiety. My point is our lives have been wrecked, and we have been dealing with the fallout in different ways. So being compassionate is a good thing, you never know what goes on in other people’s lives. In my opinion, the only people to blame are Fauci and the medical establishment, Pfizer and the Democratic party politicians. The rest of us are just dealing with this horror in any way we can.
Brahms, your story breaks my heart. Just when I think I have fully comprehended the fall out of this very dark chapter of history, I hear a new story and realize how much is left to be discovered. I am very sorry for all the suffering you and your family have endured. I am grateful every day that I had the good fortune and privilege to avoid getting jabbed against my will. With your permission, I will pray for all of you. All my best.
Thank you.
I will add your family to my prayers!❤️ I’m so sorry for what you’re going through.
If you never forgive anyone who took the shots you will be very lonely. But righteous.
I am glad you were able to resist and hope you have or will find a better job.