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We have to welcome the vaccinated who have now turned to our side. It’s probably the most important part of todays post. We win when a majority of the vaccinated wake up because major legislation has to happen to prevent so much of what has gone down over the last two years. We also need to limit the executive branch overreaching powers of late. Apologies will be appreciated though.
I completely agree with you. We can't win this war without the support of those who took the jabs and now regret it or at least realize that the vaccine mandates were an egregious overreach of government.
I'm happy to forgive, if and only if, they apologize first and seek forgiveness. I think the public health community, CDC, FDA, medical schools, local hospitals and the entire medical community who looked the other way, have a lot of soul searching to do.
I find myself much more often asking people why they are still wearing masks. I asked a pharmacy the other day "why are you still giving these shots to people when we know they are neither safe nor effective?" I get a lot of blank looks.
At the orthopedist with daughter, they require masks. I made a big show of telling them that all my used dirty masks were in my other car and I refuse to buy any, so if they wanted me masked, they'd have to provide them. If I'm playing along, it's grudgingly.
At least where I live, the doctors offices that still have the "masks required" signs don't even REALLY require it. I had to get bloodwork a few months back, and after seeing the "masks required" sign I politely asked at the desk for a mask when I was checking in, since I haven't carried masks for over a year now. She seemed surprised but did look around and find one for me. Then I turned around and noticed nobody else in the waiting room was wearing one. So, I really think -- at least where I live -- even when they're in an environment where they're supposed to require them, they're making it clear by their actions they actually respect your choice to wear or not wear one. I do, however, feel horrible for the employees who are sometimes still required to wear masks all day at their jobs.
The vaxxed need us as well, to ensure this doesn't happen again. I won't forget what they did. At least Ben wasn't pushing mandates, but his critical thinking lapse is staggering.
When the CDC analysis of the Pfizer and Moderna trials came out, they were publicly available. They showed extremely clearly that there was less than 1% difference in the infection rate in the Pfizer trials between the jabbed and the unjabbed. For Moderna it was between 1.2 and 1.3% difference. They showed that there was.02% difference in asymptomatic “infection“ between the jabbed and unjabbed. This made it obvious that it made no difference in transmission. It was all completely obvious. It was public and online before the vaccine rollout. I even sent it to my virologist niece and asked her to help me in case my math was incorrect. She read it and said no my math was correct. She went and got the shots for herself and her nine-year-old son anyway. It’s like no one could absorb any information other than what the MSM was saying. Even the official government analysis of the actual drug trials.
And the censorship of any who asked questions or pointed out an opposing view. That should have been the Big Red Flag! When did blatant censorship become okay? Willful blindness.
Yes! That censorship was one of my two “pillars” on which I rested my belief that something was very very wrong. The other was VAERS. As I was gaslighted for months on end, I returned often to these two to steady myself. To this day, if open discussion was taken up by those in charge and if a plausible explanation for VAERS data was offered, I would need to consider stepping off my platform.
Plus the fact any and all alternative medicine was completely deemed wrong and outlawing any prescriptions to be made . And one trait I’ve kept from my 70’s rebellious youth is a distrust of the government.
Exactly. So who exactly were/are the idiots? They willingly chose to obey their masters without questioning any of it. Blindly inject themselves with poison, happily while telling everyone else to join in. Without so much as giving two shits to doing any logical research or listening to any logical research done by others. They CHOSE to stick their heads in the sand. They CHOSE to be blind and follow like sheep. People make CHOICES everyday. By CHOOSING not to look at they obvious they CHOSE to stay ignorant and inject themselves with an experimental poison designed to kill them. Hard to be empathetic.
Not just that, every time as long as I can remember, there are long long lines in the pharmacy as people get their many medications. We are a pill based society, a pill is the solution for so many things. Take a pill for symptoms, never look to eliminating the cause.
My late mother-in-law (born in 1922) was an example of how many people viewed things: If something was printed in a newspaper or said on network TV news, it was unquestionable truth. Doctors were viewed as little gods, and not to ever be questioned. I guess a lot of people still think that way.
Interesting. My 96 year old mother was immediately very suspicious telling me vaccines take 10 years to come to market. She and my father, in her words, agonized for a year and half abt vaccinating me for polio in the ‘50s.
I like to think my own mother (died in 2016 at 95) would have been suspicious too. She had bad experiences with the medical profession....she almost died at age 46 from undiagnosed celiac disease. Doctor after doctor told her that her symptoms were "all in her head", ignoring the fact that her weight had gone from 120 to 85. She was only saved by the good fortune of finally encountering a doctor who was actually familiar with celiac disease at that time (1967). She never trusted doctors or the medical professional very much after that.
I don’t know why but people were blind to what seemed to me, to be an obvious truth. That mass formation psychosis took over so many. Like they didn’t want to be an outlier, that would mean they weren’t cool or something. I have pushed back my entire life, not always for the best results but I’m very glad I stood my ground this time.
Same here. And I was shocked at the level of indifference towards these mandates. They complied willingly on various levels. And I had friends who spewed hate towards me for my beliefs. I would never presume someone had to take something they didn't want just to please me or to go to school or keep their business open or keep their jobs. THAT is what gets me! I will never forgive or forget this.
As one who’s worked in healthcare for 30 years, I was suspicious early on in 2021 when I began seeing free stuff for getting jabbed. It became clear to me that they were “incentivizing” the shots and that is something I’ve never seen before. I still remember thinking that if you have to bribe people to take it, they must not want it! Then the mandates and punishments were doled out, and my best friend lost her job over it last Nov.
What stands out to me the most was the acceptance of medical tyranny.
If we have no say over what food we eat and what medications we allow into our bodies, we are truly enslaved by the government!
I’m a patriot, and a veteran, and I fought for our freedom and bodily autonomy!
I was told sometimes that I didn’t know because I “wasn’t watching the news”. Right. Maybe I knew exactly what was happening because I wasn’t watching propaganda? People were glued to TV or were addicted to incessant manipulative fear mongering. There is definitely some psychological aspect to it
They used trial figures like this to pump the relative effective rate to 95%. How they got millions on statins too. The Absolute Risk Reduction is where you and I live and was 1% or less for all of them. This was in the documents as well and pointed out to me by seekers early in 2021. I still have the note I made on that hidden in plain sight revelation. After getting info on mRNA jabs, and getting a minor cold Covid in February 2021 I knew was going to refuse them. On principle and health reasons.
I think our society taught us that we have to be experts in a field to understand it. Take engineering for example - I can’t build a huge bridge or dam. My son can. 🤷♀️ There is no way to know everything.
But I came back to earth when I saw the word experimental and dusted off my research hat… pulled out my shovel, and dug deep…
I think people naturally choose the way of the least resistance. Doing otherwise requires more time, commitment, discernment, taking responsibility, courage and a certain level of intelligence.
I was subjected to a webinar by my (former) employer before the shots became available which was a Pfizer executive telling us about the shot and how it would be given to everyone. I, naive, unmuted my mic and asked, "why is it being released to everyone instead of just those over 65 or something similar to the pneumonia vaccine?" You would have thought I just committed a crime. I knew from that moment on that we were going to be coerced, shamed, and subjected to propaganda over this.
It was a very clear what was happening and who was/wasn't at risk by the time the mystery shots were available to young and healthy. He should just admit he lost his damned mind.
“We have to figure out what to do with these people.”
Yes.
It is hard. Especially when it’s people who seemingly should have known better.
I mean, when did CONSERVATIVES ever trust government? When did Bible believing Christians trust the advice coming out of the mouth of a self-proclaimed Christian doctor who also believes murdering children, as long as they are not yet born, is okay? (Francis Collins)
(I think it is different when a non-Christian person spouts advice… and happens to believe abortion is okay… I still would take any ethical advice they offer with a carton of salt, because clearly their moral framework is not aligned with mine. But, they at least wouldn’t be claiming to be one thing while actually being another. The Bible is pretty clear about the sacred value of life.)
Anyway, yes, we do need to figure out how we are going to respond to these people.
I have ambivalent feelings. Some, like Dr Mulhotra, I think, well, better now than never. But also, I have no particular relationship with him, so it’s easier.
Others with whom I have some kind of relationship, it’s harder.
One thing that is helping me is the example of my anti-v friends, the ones who have ALWAYS been in favor of natural immune supports and who have NEVER subjected their kids to the routine ones. They are without exception gracious and kind. No “I told you so,” or “well, if you had done your own research….” They simply smile and agree as I lament learning what they already knew.
The Christian church got bought out by the government years ago by tax exemptions. Too many Christian churches have repeatedly failed to speak out against politicians and political matters for fear of risking their tax exemption. Jesus overturned the money changing tables at the Temple, which then was the religious/political center of Israel.
Leftist churches and there are BUNCHES, "preach" politics from the pulpit all the time. They seem to have some special protection that others don't have. Hmmm.
My Bible-based conservative minister has no problem condemning leftist politics. His sermons are more than relevant… I just had to find the “right” church… 😉✝️🙏🏻
Sorry, but no false equivalency here. I'm a Traditional Latin Mass Catholic. You cannot get more conservative than that. Our membership when polled is solidly 99%-PLUS in favor of making abortion illegal, 99%-PLUS anti-homo "marriage." Our priests are every bit as pro-life if not more.
And yet, in 25 years of sermons, guess how many have been about being anti-abortion or about popular politics in any way.
ZERO.
They preach about the Gospel. And they KNOW we are pro-life. They're out there in the trenches with us. They don't have to preach politics because they preach the Gospel.
Correct. Not a word about politics in my church sermons. Politics is the start of most woes these days. Instead we get stale pablum. Why I quit. Where are the warnings, the encouragement to put on the Armor of God, the spiritual battle we are waging and must do with the powers and principalities of THIS world and YES. Acknowledging Satans overall control and plan of destroying Gods creation. How do I do Gods will? How do I discern the Bible warnings of NOW. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Around me anyway. They all caved.
I neglected to add Churches need to reject the tax exemptions, pay their share of taxes and preach the Truth. It’s really no different from what state and local governments need to do (as well as colleges and universities), that is to reject all federal grants and funding thereby freeing themselves from unconstitutional federal mandates. I know of only one college in this country that has had the courage not to accept federal funding and that college is Hillsdale.
Yes!!! My former church has a huge empty 4 lot property as part of the church. I couldn’t even get into the church for an entire year. So many have left that paying real estate taxes alone will shut it down. I wouldn’t miss it frankly. Make into real affordable housing. But unfortunately in my town big empty lots become rows of storage units—but at least tax money collected.
Perhaps you need to find a church where the Word is taught fearlessly. That isn’t the same as politics. It just means that a true man of God will not shrink from preaching on Romans 1 and will accept the consequences of doing so. If some call it politics, well let them. Don’t quit, just find a more faithful church. We need each other.
Once you allow the State to impose taxation you have destroyed it. Who decides what is a church’s “fair share”? The world is at war with the church. What better way to do oppress it than to lay financial burdens on it. I understand your concern about preaching the truth but we don’t secure this right by being taxed. We must simply BE THE CHURCH and leave the consequences to God.
We are to obey Godly government— government and rulers who are under God. We are not to obey ungodly rulers. Making me sin or harm people , my family. have we seen Godly rulers? This substack below says what I feel as well. I will not comply with evil and sinful leaders on the horrific harm and death they are committing. Why do you think I have an obligation to obey the likes of our current crop of so called leaders? Most of this current evil is propagated by evil or stupid politicians or their puppet strings are manipulated and paid for by ungodly humans. Nope. I had a longer answer but touched something snd it disappeared as I was writing. Blessings.
I sent the below to my former pastor who inquired about me a year after I stopped attending. A year. Pastors need to go to the roots of our immense current dangers and evil and tell us the truth and what God tells us to do about it. If that includes politicians and governments who have ungodly power over us—so be it. Blessings and peace from Jesus, my friend.
Preachers helped focus and galvanize the message that mobilized people to join the Revolution against tyrannical England. Eric Metaxas just wrote a book called "Letter to the American Church." Don't miss it! He shows how the American institutional church is following 1930's Germany in lock step- while ignoring the prophets (like Bonhoeffer) This war of information will not be won through institutions but through grassroots patriots speaking the truth in love. Like right here on C&C
The state has absolutely no right to tax churches. There is a fundamental, God-given right to worship and our forefathers made sure this could never be removed by, or encroached on, by the State. Taxation is control. To tax churches is to grant that the government only allows us to meet to worship at their good pleasure, not because we have the right to do so. The government must never be allowed to control the church in any sense. Remember the mayor of San Antonio who demanded that sermon notes be submitted for her review before being used by the pastors in her city?
No, it's fine in the AME and black southern Baptist churches, where $hrillary "ain't no way tired." But churches not in lockstep with Dems will lose tax exempt status and fight for 1A in court for crossing their masters.
They are entitled to grace I believe. They were just not thinking for themselves as most brainwashed groups do. I liken them to the new group of diehard democrat libs walking over the line to republican status. They may not be as conservative as we are but it is a start. Christians forgive.
Well, I wouldn’t say that ANY of us is *entitled* to grace. Kind of the opposite of what grace means/is - if I am entitled to it.
But, am I as needing of grace as anyone else? Absolutely. And my Christian faith requires that I offer grace just as I have received it from the Lord God Almighty himself.
Offering grace is not synonymous with letting people off the hook, especially when they are trying to place the blame for their failure on someone else, like Ben is doing.
Forgiveness does not mean failing to hold others accountable for wrongs they have done. We should expect the wrongs to be made right when they are confessed.
If Ben admits he was wrong, he needs to figure out why and how, and develop a plan to keep it from happening again. And we can forgive him, yet still expect all of those things from him.
Jeff, I love your substack, but your talk about the “them” who took the shots and then came around, and whether you should forgive “them” or what not is upsetting. You are self-employed and living in Florida. You had the luxury of making the choice not to get the shot and (hopefully) not suffer any great repercussions. This is not the case for the vast majority of population. We are a family of four formerly living in California. The shots were mandated for both of my sons. The choice we had was either to give them the shot or have them sit in their room, all alone, unable to come out for over a year. If that is not a recipe for mental health problems, I don’t know what is. My husband and I, both retired and not personally under any pressure, took the shots first, to see if we develop any side effects, so the boys could then try and claim some sort of medical exemption if they can. I developed paresthesia which has still not gone away. My husband is now suffering from pretty bad tinnitus. When the boosters were announced we pulled our kids, packed up and moved to a “backwater” state where we are thankfully left alone. My younger son was aiming for Stanford and Princeton, and is now applying to a local college where the kids and the teaching standards are quite below his ability. I could continue with this litany of what we lost by moving, but I won’t. I don’t need anyone’s forgiveness.
So they can just run the same playbook again without consequence?? This attitude is why we are debating basic reality about what defines a man and a woman. Let justice roll like a river...
And no, for the record, if your rights were/are violated you should go for the maximum penalties available, civil or criminal. If they can get away with this what’s next?
But let’s apply that across the board, not just to our own pet circumstances and causes.
Brahms I so relate to this. I took the shots in spring of 2021 because my daughter was a recruited athlete and was going to have to be fully vaxxed to play - at a college that didn't even require it! - and I wanted to be the "guinea pig." I developed a reaction (autoimmune, rashes, swollen lymph nodes) to the first but it cleared by the time I was due for the second, and I went ahead. I had serious side effects - sudden RA, constant rashes and swelling - for almost a year. On the bad side my daughter did take the initial series even still because of timing and NCAA requirement. On the good side based on my experience the rest of my family took none! and she hasn't taken any boosters and obviously I haven't either.
We all did our best in our situation. I don't expect pity or understanding and if people want to judge, that's fine. I did it for my kids (and I found out the hard way).
Thank you and I am sorry about your health. I knew we weren’t the only ones. My sons also had to take the initial shots. Thankfully, we are all alive, which is good enough for me :)
My family has all taken the first 2 shots, my son forced into 3 by his Boston college. He got that booster while sick with Covid ( because $cience!?). My husband required to for work.
I regret doing it everyday, but the young adults really believed we would all die without a shot. A panic, an irrational fear I could not talk them out of. I have been extremely skeptical of vaccines since my oldest was a baby, and I would not have gotten this one but I could not overcome the propaganda. I passed out cold the day after my second shot and then I was furious! Four days later one son developed tinnitus. I was so stupid and weak. That will never happen again! I am hoping our batches were light on the poison which is plausible since the temperature they require is hard to maintain. We all seem to be ok for now.
I am 100% against mandates and masks and I support anyone who did not want a shot. I did not want or need a shot.
So, yes. there are people here who took the shot for various reasons and their kids got it too. I for one refused to show a vaccine card to do anything, even though I ‘qualified’. No way was I going to dignify papers to participate in society.
I sympathise so very deeply with your story, and with what was shared by those who've replied to your original comment.
I can also imagine that it's difficult, for those who were compelled and coerced to be injected, to read certain stack comments.
Comments loaded up with slings and arrows aimed directly at your already wounded hearts, and minds.
I'm so very sorry.
I have an older sister, whom I choose to see very rarely but I was compelled to, yesterday, by a "family thing".
I would normally simply decline these types of invitations, as I always regret "going along to get along". It always ends badly whenever I acquiesce.
But anyway: I agreed so...
During that unfortunate shopping expedition, and I don't recall exactly how the subject of Covid vaccinations came up, my sister loudly proclaimed (in a very quiet little STORE):
"NO ONE WAS FORCED!!!" to get vaccinated.
Whoah there sister!!!
I beg to differ, and I did so, equally sharply.
She tried to continue arguing her "side" but as she's an idiot, you know what happens when one argues with an idiot, right?
I declined to continue. Walked away.
The level of ignorance my sister displayed, regarding the subject matter, was simply too astounding. I'll save you the painful recounting.
Rhetorical questions:
Should I forgive my sister's nastiness and ignorance?
Should I try to educate her, after not speaking to her since the last time she very loudly and publicly shit all over me, during a family Christmas dinner, nearly 3 years ago now?
Should I forgive my sister's ill-informed, misinformed, disinformed opinion regarding the vaccine mandates which have so deeply divided our country, and our family?
Should I forgive the Canadian government which deliberately (and illegally) discriminated against unvaccinated citizens?
Should I forgive my Prime Minister, and my provincial Health Authorities, for vilifying us?
Should I forgive the businesses which banned us, segregated us, and fired us?
Should I forgive my sister, given that she CHOOSES only to "know what's going on in the world" from listening to propaganda sown by MSM Talking Heads, bought and paid for by Big Pharma and government subsidies?
Should I choose to forgive her, given that she has always been a stupid, fearful, mean spirited, spiteful, ignorant, and incurious little woman, who cannot be tolerated, even by her children and grandchildren, for more that 5 minutes?
Should I really? Given that her lack of curiosity and native intelligence (must naturally have) prevented her from learning one damned thing, for 65 years?
Should she be forgiven, given that it was a fearful nature, willful ignorance, and lack of native intelligence and curiosity which, for 25 years, has prevented her from ever owning, or learning how to operate, a computer, much less a cellular phone???
Given ALL of that information: Should my sister really be forgiven for her astonishing and vociferous opinion regarding (forced) vaccine mandates in Canada?
Should I really need to spend any time at all arguing with that nasty little piece of work who literally sucks the oxygen out of any room she enters, instantly making me, as well as other family members, suddenly feel nauseous?
Naw!
However, every now and again: I get COERCED.
I get SUCKED into her vicious, vacuous vortex. (Followed by instant regret.
Hang tough. ❤ Your family loves you and you did your best, for all concerned.
Thank you for sharing your truth. What you've experienced is the case for millions. Many citizens were/are forced into extreme situations with poor outcomes on all alternatives.
I am of the belief that making people feel bad about taking the shot is both cruel and hurts everyone. I am not a judge in their life. For me, share the truth, leave the punishment and judgements.
My heart goes out to the many millions(billions worldwide), who had to make monstrous decisions under the extreme duress placed upon them. I’m in Florida, retired, no dependents. I know my story might be very different otherwise. I would never have believed taking the jab was the right thing to do. Yet I can imagine what a difficult decision I would have had, if it affected my ability to provide for those I love.
I’m somewhat proud not to have caved, but humble in knowing I didn’t face that much pressure in comparison to so many.
Same here. I knew early on that it was a horrible scam but other than some unwanted isolation I did not have to make any hard choices. Meanwhile I watched friend after friend cave to the shots because they couldn’t quit their jobs mostly. One friend did leave his job and he was so close to retirement and full benefits but he stuck to his guns and 10 months later he was rehired ! One couple I knew resisted the shots until their son gave an ultimatum that they could not see their first grandbaby unless they got the shots. So they did and now the grandpa says that he has pain in every joint he ever previously injured. Anyway, the ones who self-righteously pushed it I have little sympathy for but the ones who were coerced by life circumstances I do feel sad for. Let’s just hope and pray that Geert Whatshisname is wrong about what’s coming.
Credenda I also struggle with those who were horrible about the jab. My hubby almost got it until I sobbed and begged him not to do it. His school district is fairly conservative and gave an exemption for the jab to every employee who submitted one. And I live in WA state! His sister told him to his face that she just wanted him and all the unvaxxed to die-which included me and also her nephew. She died of breast cancer after being in remission for years before the jab. I feel guilty because my base nature says serves you right! Yet my Christian heart weeps for her ignorance that killed her. One of my sons and his girlfriend had twins July 2020. We were allowed to see them 5 times, with masks on only. When we refused the vaccine they stopped allowing us to see them at all. My son does talk to us still, but had the balls to say to us that "no one ever said the jabs would stop transmission". I didn't yell but I came dang close educating him on how wrong he was. We have "zoomed" with the babies three times in the time since we would not get vaxxed and they cut us off. (We live in the same town) At first I thought I would die from the pain of the loss, but when asked why I just didn't get the jab I instantly said NO, it is from the pit of hell and no one will make me take it unless they hold me down and force it into my arm. I would have starved to death before taking it. I would have divorced my husband if he had done it and said the only way he would stay married was if I took it. So yes, every individual has had a different circumstance surrounding their decision to take the jab; I do wish that more of the "I took it to work, etc" would acknowledge that they were duped and truly wake up. They just want to be like, well that was terrible, let's move on, and I think no way, there has to be some kind of justice!!
Thanks for sharing this story of what your family went thru during covid. I have lived in CA all my life. I am a medical professional and my husband has a business of 50+ years here. We have grandsons that are school age now and we, along with my adult kids, spouses and grandsons, are moving to another state where we will be left alone with our medical choice. CA is a lost cause and will be mandating these outrageous shots for our kids now that the crazy CDC has added them to the vaccine list for kids. I applaud you and your family for your choice and pray for everything to work out with your sons education dreams.
It's a kind of reverse discrimination that is most unfortunate. I didn't believe in the shots, railed against them, argued for treatment rather than a rushed vaccine, but as the proverbial "grandma" I didn't want all of my friends and family to be uncomfortable, I didn't want to be excluded, I didn't want to "stubbornly" refuse to comply which I've done regarding medical interventions all my life, I didn't want to be prevented from seeing my two grandchildren, ages 7 and 3, forever, and so with the excuse that "I'm not always right", i.e., I could be wrong about this, I took the 2 Moderna shots. I admired people like my tree guys, my plumber, my attorney, and my piano movers, never caring that they didn't wear masks and who didn't take the vax. I am now in a medical pickle, with a lymph node that won't stop swelling and a suggestion that it's a vaccine injury and possibly cancer. It's annoying to be othered, but I know my own truth and this is not something I have to repent about. Not even close. And those two jabs have not been effective at separating me from my God, so there's that.
You reminded me of Romans 31:38-39. "38. And I am convinced that nothing can ever separate us from God’s love. Neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,[b] neither our fears for today nor our worries about tomorrow—not even the powers of hell can separate us from God’s love. 39 No power in the sky above or in the earth below—indeed, nothing in all creation will ever be able to separate us from the love of God that is revealed in Christ Jesus our Lord."
Keep sharing your story. We all have our individual hurts to work through, apologies to give, forgiveness to extend, and our own individual battle to fight. I believe that right now people are shifting seats around the table, and soon all of us will stop looking to our sides and together we will face down the demon across the table from “us”. We will rally around each other and support each other as we each tackle our individual battles.
Brahms, you’ve had some really tough choices to make, and I’m sure most of us, including Jeff, maybe all of us, don’t consider you one of “them”. What a horrible, no-win situation to be in!
However, I think Jeff was specifically talking about the “them” who thought the shots were a good thing and then changed their minds. In the case of Ben Shapiro, this meant months and months of encouraging others to trust the shots because he has a lot of “followers”.
So you’re right, you don’t need anyone’s forgiveness.
Thank you, Herr Bach. Music has great healing powers, doesn’t it? I understand the point Jeff was trying to make. My own point, not nearly as well articulated, is that it has been a horrible time in many ways for many people, and we all react to such levels of stress differently and should try not to judge. In our small family of four, three of us are now dealing with mental health problems in addition to the side effects to the shot that my husband and I have and for which there is no treatment. My older son, for example, went to an out of state college in 2020 when the most draconian policies were introduced. Because he was alone there, he became terrified of testing positive and having to quarantine (will they remember to bring him food?) He became obsessed with hand washing and germs (for example, he eats popcorn with chopsticks so he doesn’t have to touch it.) This has been going on for two years, and we are realizing it is a mental disorder that is not improving. He is not functioning very well since germs are everywhere and there’s not much he allows himself to do. He is only 20 years old, and I don’t know how he will live the rest of his life. My husband has had to deal with an incredible amount of vitriol from his large family, most of whom were educated in the best schools, are firmly democratic, and now believe we are lunatic anti-vaxxers. He has become withdrawn and angry. I have had quite a job just keeping our family together and have been dealing with extreme levels of anxiety. My point is our lives have been wrecked, and we have been dealing with the fallout in different ways. So being compassionate is a good thing, you never know what goes on in other people’s lives. In my opinion, the only people to blame are Fauci and the medical establishment, Pfizer and the Democratic party politicians. The rest of us are just dealing with this horror in any way we can.
Brahms, your story breaks my heart. Just when I think I have fully comprehended the fall out of this very dark chapter of history, I hear a new story and realize how much is left to be discovered. I am very sorry for all the suffering you and your family have endured. I am grateful every day that I had the good fortune and privilege to avoid getting jabbed against my will. With your permission, I will pray for all of you. All my best.
Having only read the occasional tweet from Ben Shapiro, I really have no animus for him. However, your statement has given me pause. "As a Christian, I’m required to give them grace, the same grace I’ve received." Thank you for this reminder. It has been a hard two+ years with disappointment from many people. Brilliant but uninformed close family members who wondered if I had gone down the rabbit hole. Employers who mandated the jab and masks. Employees who did not understand why I just did not take it. With all of this and more, I decided to retire early, leaving a high six figure salary, downsizing my home, mostly because of the stress of fighting the mandated jab and horrible Biden decisions that impacted my work. However, through all of that God was with me. He allowed me the financial means, albiet greatly reduced, to retire and even take care of my elderly mom. I am so grateful to have this time with her that I could never get back. He allowed me this time to get closer to Him and see that despite what it looks like, He is ultimately in control. How can I not pray for that same grace for my family, former employers and employees, neighbors, and yes, Ben, et. al.?
We all had something to lose. But when you trust the Lord before the government like you did, you can't lose. "...do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." People need to repent of fearing their government over God.
Thanks for the scripture, Matt. You are very right. I know there are many that lost more than me, even those that took the jab and now have medical problems, deaths in their families. I still believe Romans 8:28. "And we know that ALL (my emphasis) things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to His purpose."
“He allowed me this time to get closer to Him and see that despite what it looks like, He is ultimately in control. How can I not pray for that same grace for my family, former employers and employees, neighbors, and yes, Ben, et. al.?”
I suspect that "gentle" Ben was on the COVID vaxxx bandwagon because it was pushed so heavily by Mother Israel. He should have listened to a real doctor, Dr. Zelenko.
Agree that he is most likely "controlled opposition".
Re: Fetterman - A very sad case. Nothing one can do to help him - dead man walking...
Fetterneck was neglecting his own health and doctors advice before his stroke. He weighed 400+ pounds, was supposed to have been managing his diabetes, cholesterol and blood pressure.
I have no idea if stroke was vax induced, he was a slovenly, ticking time bomb, too irresponsible to care for himself or show up for work, but wanting to advance to higher office anyway. Shame on his Marxist wife Gisele, the real candidate. They both belong finished with politics.
Well, you're a lot more forgiving than I. Of course the govt lied about the shots. Of course they knew many of the mandates were illegal. They didn't care because they wanted to get that crap in the arms of as many people as possible, and they went to great lengths to accomplish that goal, regardless of the consequences.
The problem I have with all the idiot sheep who took the shots is, "the govt lied to me" is no excuse. This may sound harsh, but if they lack the critical-thinking skills to make their own decisions, then they deserve to suffer the consequences. These are the people who were MORE than happy to publicly ridicule, and even physically attack, the "antivaxxers". They virtue-signaled and bragged about their moral superiority every chance they got. They fought to take away our jobs and livelihoods. Now, they're sorry?? As far as I'm concerned, they can all get bent. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. We warned them.
Shapiro is smart but hard headed and has his blind spots. Did you know his wife is a doctor?!? (He reminds people of this frequently or he used to). My bigger concern is how many people did SHE push to get the vax. With both of their platforms combined, they are both likely responsible for many vax injuries, not to mention the psychological berating and contribution to discrimination against purebloods. I don't have quite as much grace to extend him because when it happens again, I think he will likely defer to the experts again. While he is right on many issues, I still consider him "establishment".
Not sure why people gave so much attention to what Ben Shapiro said, ever, about anything. Sometimes my intuition takes care of things without telling me.
I think it's precisely BECAUSE Shapiro's wife is an MD that he went along.
-She went along (I'd bet) because the medical profession trusts the so-called experts.
-The so-called experts went along because they trust their benefactors, the Medical Industrial Complex.
-The MIC went along because ... "That's very nice upper-class lifestyle you got there, Doc. 'Be a damned shame if your daughter couldn't afford to go to Wellsley/Penn/Harvard anymore."
He's too much of an insider to appeal to me, but Ben probably changed many more minds with that single rant. Its way better than being a coward and pretending like it never happened.
I agree. It's better to have them awaken to what happened and what they did to themselves. I already have people say to me I was smart not to do it and even asked why I didn't take the shot. Good. Maybe they won't get fooled again.
Wait until we find out that the U.S. was responsible for the bioweapon, C19, and the release was connected to Ukraine, not China....and that the war in Ukraine is to cover that up, but oops, Putin knows about it.
For the past 2 years you've promoted misinformation and encouraged people to get the covid "vaccines". Unlike many of us, your misinformation was from the "approved narrative" and you weren't banned from social media or shunned by friends and family.
I'm glad you've finally woken up and are now maybe ready to do some actual journalism and look into the concerns many of us have had for over 2 years about the covid shots.
We are not crazy conspiracy theorists. Why have we been silenced? Why is it wrong to have a different opinion or concerns? When did science change to not allow debate?
You have a lot of catching up to do..... many of the things you uncover will be very disturbing.
Please use your platform to end the covid shot program, to stop the mandates, AND to never allow any of this to happen again.
Ben Shapiro is a fast talking weasel! Prior to Event 201 / Plandemic, he was unwilling to look at the lack of science behind ALL VACCINES!! After all, he is married to a pediatrician/Pharma salesman. While it has been an extremely painful (almost) three years, God has answered the prayers of many of us in the Health Freedom Movement (aka: Anti-Vaxxers) by opening the eyes of more people to the corruption and collusion between Pharma and government.
Mr. Childers, I liked your view on forgiveness for those who didn’t help us fight the mandate fight. We forgive because we are forgiven. It’s been a tough pill to swallow because I haven’t heard one word of an apology from my jab-loving family, and I know I never will. But I want them in my life, so I forgive them without it. Thank you for the words of optimism and hope and a reminder of what grace really is.🙂
“It’s been a tough pill to swallow because I haven’t heard one word of an apology from my jab-loving family, and I know I never will. But I want them in my life, so I forgive them without it.”
Yes, this! I struggle to maintain this attitude even knowing the Good Lord requires it.
We have to welcome the vaccinated who have now turned to our side. It’s probably the most important part of todays post. We win when a majority of the vaccinated wake up because major legislation has to happen to prevent so much of what has gone down over the last two years. We also need to limit the executive branch overreaching powers of late. Apologies will be appreciated though.
I completely agree with you. We can't win this war without the support of those who took the jabs and now regret it or at least realize that the vaccine mandates were an egregious overreach of government.
I'm happy to forgive, if and only if, they apologize first and seek forgiveness. I think the public health community, CDC, FDA, medical schools, local hospitals and the entire medical community who looked the other way, have a lot of soul searching to do.
I find myself much more often asking people why they are still wearing masks. I asked a pharmacy the other day "why are you still giving these shots to people when we know they are neither safe nor effective?" I get a lot of blank looks.
Nice! We should be more confrontational with CVS/Walgreens/etc as they push these Stroke Pokes on people.
At the orthopedist with daughter, they require masks. I made a big show of telling them that all my used dirty masks were in my other car and I refuse to buy any, so if they wanted me masked, they'd have to provide them. If I'm playing along, it's grudgingly.
At least where I live, the doctors offices that still have the "masks required" signs don't even REALLY require it. I had to get bloodwork a few months back, and after seeing the "masks required" sign I politely asked at the desk for a mask when I was checking in, since I haven't carried masks for over a year now. She seemed surprised but did look around and find one for me. Then I turned around and noticed nobody else in the waiting room was wearing one. So, I really think -- at least where I live -- even when they're in an environment where they're supposed to require them, they're making it clear by their actions they actually respect your choice to wear or not wear one. I do, however, feel horrible for the employees who are sometimes still required to wear masks all day at their jobs.
The vaxxed need us as well, to ensure this doesn't happen again. I won't forget what they did. At least Ben wasn't pushing mandates, but his critical thinking lapse is staggering.
When the CDC analysis of the Pfizer and Moderna trials came out, they were publicly available. They showed extremely clearly that there was less than 1% difference in the infection rate in the Pfizer trials between the jabbed and the unjabbed. For Moderna it was between 1.2 and 1.3% difference. They showed that there was.02% difference in asymptomatic “infection“ between the jabbed and unjabbed. This made it obvious that it made no difference in transmission. It was all completely obvious. It was public and online before the vaccine rollout. I even sent it to my virologist niece and asked her to help me in case my math was incorrect. She read it and said no my math was correct. She went and got the shots for herself and her nine-year-old son anyway. It’s like no one could absorb any information other than what the MSM was saying. Even the official government analysis of the actual drug trials.
And the censorship of any who asked questions or pointed out an opposing view. That should have been the Big Red Flag! When did blatant censorship become okay? Willful blindness.
Yes! That censorship was one of my two “pillars” on which I rested my belief that something was very very wrong. The other was VAERS. As I was gaslighted for months on end, I returned often to these two to steady myself. To this day, if open discussion was taken up by those in charge and if a plausible explanation for VAERS data was offered, I would need to consider stepping off my platform.
Plus the fact any and all alternative medicine was completely deemed wrong and outlawing any prescriptions to be made . And one trait I’ve kept from my 70’s rebellious youth is a distrust of the government.
Exactly. So who exactly were/are the idiots? They willingly chose to obey their masters without questioning any of it. Blindly inject themselves with poison, happily while telling everyone else to join in. Without so much as giving two shits to doing any logical research or listening to any logical research done by others. They CHOSE to stick their heads in the sand. They CHOSE to be blind and follow like sheep. People make CHOICES everyday. By CHOOSING not to look at they obvious they CHOSE to stay ignorant and inject themselves with an experimental poison designed to kill them. Hard to be empathetic.
I still see them lined up in the pharmacies of the big chain grocery stores, contently taking their dose of poison.
Me too. Lines out the door and full parking lots at vaccine centers. My one girlfriend who has pulmonary embolisms just got her booster.
Not just that, every time as long as I can remember, there are long long lines in the pharmacy as people get their many medications. We are a pill based society, a pill is the solution for so many things. Take a pill for symptoms, never look to eliminating the cause.
My late mother-in-law (born in 1922) was an example of how many people viewed things: If something was printed in a newspaper or said on network TV news, it was unquestionable truth. Doctors were viewed as little gods, and not to ever be questioned. I guess a lot of people still think that way.
Interesting. My 96 year old mother was immediately very suspicious telling me vaccines take 10 years to come to market. She and my father, in her words, agonized for a year and half abt vaccinating me for polio in the ‘50s.
I like to think my own mother (died in 2016 at 95) would have been suspicious too. She had bad experiences with the medical profession....she almost died at age 46 from undiagnosed celiac disease. Doctor after doctor told her that her symptoms were "all in her head", ignoring the fact that her weight had gone from 120 to 85. She was only saved by the good fortune of finally encountering a doctor who was actually familiar with celiac disease at that time (1967). She never trusted doctors or the medical professional very much after that.
The phrase, "useful idiot" comes to mind.
I don’t know why but people were blind to what seemed to me, to be an obvious truth. That mass formation psychosis took over so many. Like they didn’t want to be an outlier, that would mean they weren’t cool or something. I have pushed back my entire life, not always for the best results but I’m very glad I stood my ground this time.
Same here. And I was shocked at the level of indifference towards these mandates. They complied willingly on various levels. And I had friends who spewed hate towards me for my beliefs. I would never presume someone had to take something they didn't want just to please me or to go to school or keep their business open or keep their jobs. THAT is what gets me! I will never forgive or forget this.
As one who’s worked in healthcare for 30 years, I was suspicious early on in 2021 when I began seeing free stuff for getting jabbed. It became clear to me that they were “incentivizing” the shots and that is something I’ve never seen before. I still remember thinking that if you have to bribe people to take it, they must not want it! Then the mandates and punishments were doled out, and my best friend lost her job over it last Nov.
What stands out to me the most was the acceptance of medical tyranny.
If we have no say over what food we eat and what medications we allow into our bodies, we are truly enslaved by the government!
I’m a patriot, and a veteran, and I fought for our freedom and bodily autonomy!
Exactly. You summed it up perfectly.
I was told sometimes that I didn’t know because I “wasn’t watching the news”. Right. Maybe I knew exactly what was happening because I wasn’t watching propaganda? People were glued to TV or were addicted to incessant manipulative fear mongering. There is definitely some psychological aspect to it
We’re so uncool we’re cool—around here anyway. 😀👍🏻👋
They used trial figures like this to pump the relative effective rate to 95%. How they got millions on statins too. The Absolute Risk Reduction is where you and I live and was 1% or less for all of them. This was in the documents as well and pointed out to me by seekers early in 2021. I still have the note I made on that hidden in plain sight revelation. After getting info on mRNA jabs, and getting a minor cold Covid in February 2021 I knew was going to refuse them. On principle and health reasons.
I think our society taught us that we have to be experts in a field to understand it. Take engineering for example - I can’t build a huge bridge or dam. My son can. 🤷♀️ There is no way to know everything.
But I came back to earth when I saw the word experimental and dusted off my research hat… pulled out my shovel, and dug deep…
I think people naturally choose the way of the least resistance. Doing otherwise requires more time, commitment, discernment, taking responsibility, courage and a certain level of intelligence.
Even without public data, it was easy to determine, as early as March 2021, that the vaccines were a ruse for something else.
When you have to try so damn hard, using propaganda, shaming, coercion, etc... you KNOW there is a BIG LIE behind the effort.
I was subjected to a webinar by my (former) employer before the shots became available which was a Pfizer executive telling us about the shot and how it would be given to everyone. I, naive, unmuted my mic and asked, "why is it being released to everyone instead of just those over 65 or something similar to the pneumonia vaccine?" You would have thought I just committed a crime. I knew from that moment on that we were going to be coerced, shamed, and subjected to propaganda over this.
Exactly! Huge red flag!
I said from the very beginning “ there’s a reason why they want a shot in every arm and it certainly is not some so called virus!”
Jeff I hear you about Ben Shapiro, but
clearly his apology is for business reasons.
Blaming the liars for lying to him is a weak
play, especially since there were many
scientists, doctors, analysts and
researchers who were skeptical and onto
the covid hoax very early. They were
cancelled, silenced and ignored. Shapiro
and others chose not to listen (at all) and
were complicit. Did they even look at the
Great Barrington Declaration!?
We don't need Ben Shapiro. We need
fighters with courage!
Absolutely!
It was a very clear what was happening and who was/wasn't at risk by the time the mystery shots were available to young and healthy. He should just admit he lost his damned mind.
EXACTLY! His subscribers and view counts must be falling....
“We have to figure out what to do with these people.”
Yes.
It is hard. Especially when it’s people who seemingly should have known better.
I mean, when did CONSERVATIVES ever trust government? When did Bible believing Christians trust the advice coming out of the mouth of a self-proclaimed Christian doctor who also believes murdering children, as long as they are not yet born, is okay? (Francis Collins)
(I think it is different when a non-Christian person spouts advice… and happens to believe abortion is okay… I still would take any ethical advice they offer with a carton of salt, because clearly their moral framework is not aligned with mine. But, they at least wouldn’t be claiming to be one thing while actually being another. The Bible is pretty clear about the sacred value of life.)
Anyway, yes, we do need to figure out how we are going to respond to these people.
I have ambivalent feelings. Some, like Dr Mulhotra, I think, well, better now than never. But also, I have no particular relationship with him, so it’s easier.
Others with whom I have some kind of relationship, it’s harder.
One thing that is helping me is the example of my anti-v friends, the ones who have ALWAYS been in favor of natural immune supports and who have NEVER subjected their kids to the routine ones. They are without exception gracious and kind. No “I told you so,” or “well, if you had done your own research….” They simply smile and agree as I lament learning what they already knew.
The Christian church got bought out by the government years ago by tax exemptions. Too many Christian churches have repeatedly failed to speak out against politicians and political matters for fear of risking their tax exemption. Jesus overturned the money changing tables at the Temple, which then was the religious/political center of Israel.
Leftist churches and there are BUNCHES, "preach" politics from the pulpit all the time. They seem to have some special protection that others don't have. Hmmm.
yes they do- while the "religious right" virtue signals about "Preaching the Word" while ignoring evil. Sing louder when the box cars roll by!
My Bible-based conservative minister has no problem condemning leftist politics. His sermons are more than relevant… I just had to find the “right” church… 😉✝️🙏🏻
Are you actually suggesting churches with conservative leaning membership don't "preach politics from the pulpit" as well? And are not as "protected"?
If one boldly goes out on such a weak limb? Don't be surprised if it cracks under the heavy weight of hyocrisy.
Just saying...
Sorry, but no false equivalency here. I'm a Traditional Latin Mass Catholic. You cannot get more conservative than that. Our membership when polled is solidly 99%-PLUS in favor of making abortion illegal, 99%-PLUS anti-homo "marriage." Our priests are every bit as pro-life if not more.
And yet, in 25 years of sermons, guess how many have been about being anti-abortion or about popular politics in any way.
ZERO.
They preach about the Gospel. And they KNOW we are pro-life. They're out there in the trenches with us. They don't have to preach politics because they preach the Gospel.
Fellow TLM Catholic here👋
Correct. Not a word about politics in my church sermons. Politics is the start of most woes these days. Instead we get stale pablum. Why I quit. Where are the warnings, the encouragement to put on the Armor of God, the spiritual battle we are waging and must do with the powers and principalities of THIS world and YES. Acknowledging Satans overall control and plan of destroying Gods creation. How do I do Gods will? How do I discern the Bible warnings of NOW. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Around me anyway. They all caved.
I neglected to add Churches need to reject the tax exemptions, pay their share of taxes and preach the Truth. It’s really no different from what state and local governments need to do (as well as colleges and universities), that is to reject all federal grants and funding thereby freeing themselves from unconstitutional federal mandates. I know of only one college in this country that has had the courage not to accept federal funding and that college is Hillsdale.
A church is not the same as a college. They have different missions in this world.
Yes!!! My former church has a huge empty 4 lot property as part of the church. I couldn’t even get into the church for an entire year. So many have left that paying real estate taxes alone will shut it down. I wouldn’t miss it frankly. Make into real affordable housing. But unfortunately in my town big empty lots become rows of storage units—but at least tax money collected.
Perhaps you need to find a church where the Word is taught fearlessly. That isn’t the same as politics. It just means that a true man of God will not shrink from preaching on Romans 1 and will accept the consequences of doing so. If some call it politics, well let them. Don’t quit, just find a more faithful church. We need each other.
Once you allow the State to impose taxation you have destroyed it. Who decides what is a church’s “fair share”? The world is at war with the church. What better way to do oppress it than to lay financial burdens on it. I understand your concern about preaching the truth but we don’t secure this right by being taxed. We must simply BE THE CHURCH and leave the consequences to God.
hi Janet,
why do U think that Churches should push a political message and what would that message be exactly?
as a Christian myself, I struggle with this conundrum. why shouldn’t the church stay out of politics and “render unto Caesar”?
We are to obey Godly government— government and rulers who are under God. We are not to obey ungodly rulers. Making me sin or harm people , my family. have we seen Godly rulers? This substack below says what I feel as well. I will not comply with evil and sinful leaders on the horrific harm and death they are committing. Why do you think I have an obligation to obey the likes of our current crop of so called leaders? Most of this current evil is propagated by evil or stupid politicians or their puppet strings are manipulated and paid for by ungodly humans. Nope. I had a longer answer but touched something snd it disappeared as I was writing. Blessings.
I sent the below to my former pastor who inquired about me a year after I stopped attending. A year. Pastors need to go to the roots of our immense current dangers and evil and tell us the truth and what God tells us to do about it. If that includes politicians and governments who have ungodly power over us—so be it. Blessings and peace from Jesus, my friend.
https://open.substack.com/pub/walrusandcarpenter/p/does-romans-13-really-justify-churches?utm_source=direct&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
thank U janet, I will read tonight after work.
The Word of God is a sharp sword, an offensive weapon. Preach the Word without fear to offend.
Amen Jack, but that doesn’t really answer my question.
Preachers helped focus and galvanize the message that mobilized people to join the Revolution against tyrannical England. Eric Metaxas just wrote a book called "Letter to the American Church." Don't miss it! He shows how the American institutional church is following 1930's Germany in lock step- while ignoring the prophets (like Bonhoeffer) This war of information will not be won through institutions but through grassroots patriots speaking the truth in love. Like right here on C&C
Just ordered it from my library system. Thanks.
The state has absolutely no right to tax churches. There is a fundamental, God-given right to worship and our forefathers made sure this could never be removed by, or encroached on, by the State. Taxation is control. To tax churches is to grant that the government only allows us to meet to worship at their good pleasure, not because we have the right to do so. The government must never be allowed to control the church in any sense. Remember the mayor of San Antonio who demanded that sermon notes be submitted for her review before being used by the pastors in her city?
No, it's fine in the AME and black southern Baptist churches, where $hrillary "ain't no way tired." But churches not in lockstep with Dems will lose tax exempt status and fight for 1A in court for crossing their masters.
They are entitled to grace I believe. They were just not thinking for themselves as most brainwashed groups do. I liken them to the new group of diehard democrat libs walking over the line to republican status. They may not be as conservative as we are but it is a start. Christians forgive.
Well, I wouldn’t say that ANY of us is *entitled* to grace. Kind of the opposite of what grace means/is - if I am entitled to it.
But, am I as needing of grace as anyone else? Absolutely. And my Christian faith requires that I offer grace just as I have received it from the Lord God Almighty himself.
Offering grace is not synonymous with letting people off the hook, especially when they are trying to place the blame for their failure on someone else, like Ben is doing.
Forgiveness does not mean failing to hold others accountable for wrongs they have done. We should expect the wrongs to be made right when they are confessed.
If Ben admits he was wrong, he needs to figure out why and how, and develop a plan to keep it from happening again. And we can forgive him, yet still expect all of those things from him.
Jeff, I love your substack, but your talk about the “them” who took the shots and then came around, and whether you should forgive “them” or what not is upsetting. You are self-employed and living in Florida. You had the luxury of making the choice not to get the shot and (hopefully) not suffer any great repercussions. This is not the case for the vast majority of population. We are a family of four formerly living in California. The shots were mandated for both of my sons. The choice we had was either to give them the shot or have them sit in their room, all alone, unable to come out for over a year. If that is not a recipe for mental health problems, I don’t know what is. My husband and I, both retired and not personally under any pressure, took the shots first, to see if we develop any side effects, so the boys could then try and claim some sort of medical exemption if they can. I developed paresthesia which has still not gone away. My husband is now suffering from pretty bad tinnitus. When the boosters were announced we pulled our kids, packed up and moved to a “backwater” state where we are thankfully left alone. My younger son was aiming for Stanford and Princeton, and is now applying to a local college where the kids and the teaching standards are quite below his ability. I could continue with this litany of what we lost by moving, but I won’t. I don’t need anyone’s forgiveness.
I’m sorry for what you’ve been through. Next we move toward justice.
We should just make peace and not go for any kind of settlements. Move on.
So they can just run the same playbook again without consequence?? This attitude is why we are debating basic reality about what defines a man and a woman. Let justice roll like a river...
So why apply that same logic to Ukraine?
It’s not your land, family, and nation.
For the record, I’m a military dude. Still unvaccinated and working while my exemption is pending.
And no, for the record, if your rights were/are violated you should go for the maximum penalties available, civil or criminal. If they can get away with this what’s next?
But let’s apply that across the board, not just to our own pet circumstances and causes.
Putin started this in 2014.
Previous Russian dictators murdered 7 million in one year and invaded and annexed Ukraine 100 years ago.
They’re going to keep doing it unless it’s stopped
Uh. No.
Why not? It’s good enough for Ukraine, right?
We don’t want war, peace at any cost.
You seem to be trolling. Stick to the topic in the thread.
Jeff is the one who brought it up.
Peace at any cost no longer an option?
Brahms I so relate to this. I took the shots in spring of 2021 because my daughter was a recruited athlete and was going to have to be fully vaxxed to play - at a college that didn't even require it! - and I wanted to be the "guinea pig." I developed a reaction (autoimmune, rashes, swollen lymph nodes) to the first but it cleared by the time I was due for the second, and I went ahead. I had serious side effects - sudden RA, constant rashes and swelling - for almost a year. On the bad side my daughter did take the initial series even still because of timing and NCAA requirement. On the good side based on my experience the rest of my family took none! and she hasn't taken any boosters and obviously I haven't either.
We all did our best in our situation. I don't expect pity or understanding and if people want to judge, that's fine. I did it for my kids (and I found out the hard way).
Thank you and I am sorry about your health. I knew we weren’t the only ones. My sons also had to take the initial shots. Thankfully, we are all alive, which is good enough for me :)
My family has all taken the first 2 shots, my son forced into 3 by his Boston college. He got that booster while sick with Covid ( because $cience!?). My husband required to for work.
I regret doing it everyday, but the young adults really believed we would all die without a shot. A panic, an irrational fear I could not talk them out of. I have been extremely skeptical of vaccines since my oldest was a baby, and I would not have gotten this one but I could not overcome the propaganda. I passed out cold the day after my second shot and then I was furious! Four days later one son developed tinnitus. I was so stupid and weak. That will never happen again! I am hoping our batches were light on the poison which is plausible since the temperature they require is hard to maintain. We all seem to be ok for now.
I am 100% against mandates and masks and I support anyone who did not want a shot. I did not want or need a shot.
So, yes. there are people here who took the shot for various reasons and their kids got it too. I for one refused to show a vaccine card to do anything, even though I ‘qualified’. No way was I going to dignify papers to participate in society.
Anyway, yes, we did our best at the time.
I sympathise so very deeply with your story, and with what was shared by those who've replied to your original comment.
I can also imagine that it's difficult, for those who were compelled and coerced to be injected, to read certain stack comments.
Comments loaded up with slings and arrows aimed directly at your already wounded hearts, and minds.
I'm so very sorry.
I have an older sister, whom I choose to see very rarely but I was compelled to, yesterday, by a "family thing".
I would normally simply decline these types of invitations, as I always regret "going along to get along". It always ends badly whenever I acquiesce.
But anyway: I agreed so...
During that unfortunate shopping expedition, and I don't recall exactly how the subject of Covid vaccinations came up, my sister loudly proclaimed (in a very quiet little STORE):
"NO ONE WAS FORCED!!!" to get vaccinated.
Whoah there sister!!!
I beg to differ, and I did so, equally sharply.
She tried to continue arguing her "side" but as she's an idiot, you know what happens when one argues with an idiot, right?
I declined to continue. Walked away.
The level of ignorance my sister displayed, regarding the subject matter, was simply too astounding. I'll save you the painful recounting.
Rhetorical questions:
Should I forgive my sister's nastiness and ignorance?
Should I try to educate her, after not speaking to her since the last time she very loudly and publicly shit all over me, during a family Christmas dinner, nearly 3 years ago now?
Should I forgive my sister's ill-informed, misinformed, disinformed opinion regarding the vaccine mandates which have so deeply divided our country, and our family?
Should I forgive the Canadian government which deliberately (and illegally) discriminated against unvaccinated citizens?
Should I forgive my Prime Minister, and my provincial Health Authorities, for vilifying us?
Should I forgive the businesses which banned us, segregated us, and fired us?
Should I forgive my sister, given that she CHOOSES only to "know what's going on in the world" from listening to propaganda sown by MSM Talking Heads, bought and paid for by Big Pharma and government subsidies?
Should I choose to forgive her, given that she has always been a stupid, fearful, mean spirited, spiteful, ignorant, and incurious little woman, who cannot be tolerated, even by her children and grandchildren, for more that 5 minutes?
Should I really? Given that her lack of curiosity and native intelligence (must naturally have) prevented her from learning one damned thing, for 65 years?
Should she be forgiven, given that it was a fearful nature, willful ignorance, and lack of native intelligence and curiosity which, for 25 years, has prevented her from ever owning, or learning how to operate, a computer, much less a cellular phone???
Given ALL of that information: Should my sister really be forgiven for her astonishing and vociferous opinion regarding (forced) vaccine mandates in Canada?
Should I really need to spend any time at all arguing with that nasty little piece of work who literally sucks the oxygen out of any room she enters, instantly making me, as well as other family members, suddenly feel nauseous?
Naw!
However, every now and again: I get COERCED.
I get SUCKED into her vicious, vacuous vortex. (Followed by instant regret.
Hang tough. ❤ Your family loves you and you did your best, for all concerned.
Thank you for sharing your truth. What you've experienced is the case for millions. Many citizens were/are forced into extreme situations with poor outcomes on all alternatives.
I am of the belief that making people feel bad about taking the shot is both cruel and hurts everyone. I am not a judge in their life. For me, share the truth, leave the punishment and judgements.
My heart goes out to the many millions(billions worldwide), who had to make monstrous decisions under the extreme duress placed upon them. I’m in Florida, retired, no dependents. I know my story might be very different otherwise. I would never have believed taking the jab was the right thing to do. Yet I can imagine what a difficult decision I would have had, if it affected my ability to provide for those I love.
I’m somewhat proud not to have caved, but humble in knowing I didn’t face that much pressure in comparison to so many.
Same here. I knew early on that it was a horrible scam but other than some unwanted isolation I did not have to make any hard choices. Meanwhile I watched friend after friend cave to the shots because they couldn’t quit their jobs mostly. One friend did leave his job and he was so close to retirement and full benefits but he stuck to his guns and 10 months later he was rehired ! One couple I knew resisted the shots until their son gave an ultimatum that they could not see their first grandbaby unless they got the shots. So they did and now the grandpa says that he has pain in every joint he ever previously injured. Anyway, the ones who self-righteously pushed it I have little sympathy for but the ones who were coerced by life circumstances I do feel sad for. Let’s just hope and pray that Geert Whatshisname is wrong about what’s coming.
Credenda I also struggle with those who were horrible about the jab. My hubby almost got it until I sobbed and begged him not to do it. His school district is fairly conservative and gave an exemption for the jab to every employee who submitted one. And I live in WA state! His sister told him to his face that she just wanted him and all the unvaxxed to die-which included me and also her nephew. She died of breast cancer after being in remission for years before the jab. I feel guilty because my base nature says serves you right! Yet my Christian heart weeps for her ignorance that killed her. One of my sons and his girlfriend had twins July 2020. We were allowed to see them 5 times, with masks on only. When we refused the vaccine they stopped allowing us to see them at all. My son does talk to us still, but had the balls to say to us that "no one ever said the jabs would stop transmission". I didn't yell but I came dang close educating him on how wrong he was. We have "zoomed" with the babies three times in the time since we would not get vaxxed and they cut us off. (We live in the same town) At first I thought I would die from the pain of the loss, but when asked why I just didn't get the jab I instantly said NO, it is from the pit of hell and no one will make me take it unless they hold me down and force it into my arm. I would have starved to death before taking it. I would have divorced my husband if he had done it and said the only way he would stay married was if I took it. So yes, every individual has had a different circumstance surrounding their decision to take the jab; I do wish that more of the "I took it to work, etc" would acknowledge that they were duped and truly wake up. They just want to be like, well that was terrible, let's move on, and I think no way, there has to be some kind of justice!!
Thanks for sharing this story of what your family went thru during covid. I have lived in CA all my life. I am a medical professional and my husband has a business of 50+ years here. We have grandsons that are school age now and we, along with my adult kids, spouses and grandsons, are moving to another state where we will be left alone with our medical choice. CA is a lost cause and will be mandating these outrageous shots for our kids now that the crazy CDC has added them to the vaccine list for kids. I applaud you and your family for your choice and pray for everything to work out with your sons education dreams.
It's a kind of reverse discrimination that is most unfortunate. I didn't believe in the shots, railed against them, argued for treatment rather than a rushed vaccine, but as the proverbial "grandma" I didn't want all of my friends and family to be uncomfortable, I didn't want to be excluded, I didn't want to "stubbornly" refuse to comply which I've done regarding medical interventions all my life, I didn't want to be prevented from seeing my two grandchildren, ages 7 and 3, forever, and so with the excuse that "I'm not always right", i.e., I could be wrong about this, I took the 2 Moderna shots. I admired people like my tree guys, my plumber, my attorney, and my piano movers, never caring that they didn't wear masks and who didn't take the vax. I am now in a medical pickle, with a lymph node that won't stop swelling and a suggestion that it's a vaccine injury and possibly cancer. It's annoying to be othered, but I know my own truth and this is not something I have to repent about. Not even close. And those two jabs have not been effective at separating me from my God, so there's that.
You reminded me of Romans 31:38-39. "38. And I am convinced that nothing can ever separate us from God’s love. Neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,[b] neither our fears for today nor our worries about tomorrow—not even the powers of hell can separate us from God’s love. 39 No power in the sky above or in the earth below—indeed, nothing in all creation will ever be able to separate us from the love of God that is revealed in Christ Jesus our Lord."
Keep sharing your story. We all have our individual hurts to work through, apologies to give, forgiveness to extend, and our own individual battle to fight. I believe that right now people are shifting seats around the table, and soon all of us will stop looking to our sides and together we will face down the demon across the table from “us”. We will rally around each other and support each other as we each tackle our individual battles.
Brahms, you’ve had some really tough choices to make, and I’m sure most of us, including Jeff, maybe all of us, don’t consider you one of “them”. What a horrible, no-win situation to be in!
However, I think Jeff was specifically talking about the “them” who thought the shots were a good thing and then changed their minds. In the case of Ben Shapiro, this meant months and months of encouraging others to trust the shots because he has a lot of “followers”.
So you’re right, you don’t need anyone’s forgiveness.
Sincerely,
Bach ;-)
Thank you, Herr Bach. Music has great healing powers, doesn’t it? I understand the point Jeff was trying to make. My own point, not nearly as well articulated, is that it has been a horrible time in many ways for many people, and we all react to such levels of stress differently and should try not to judge. In our small family of four, three of us are now dealing with mental health problems in addition to the side effects to the shot that my husband and I have and for which there is no treatment. My older son, for example, went to an out of state college in 2020 when the most draconian policies were introduced. Because he was alone there, he became terrified of testing positive and having to quarantine (will they remember to bring him food?) He became obsessed with hand washing and germs (for example, he eats popcorn with chopsticks so he doesn’t have to touch it.) This has been going on for two years, and we are realizing it is a mental disorder that is not improving. He is not functioning very well since germs are everywhere and there’s not much he allows himself to do. He is only 20 years old, and I don’t know how he will live the rest of his life. My husband has had to deal with an incredible amount of vitriol from his large family, most of whom were educated in the best schools, are firmly democratic, and now believe we are lunatic anti-vaxxers. He has become withdrawn and angry. I have had quite a job just keeping our family together and have been dealing with extreme levels of anxiety. My point is our lives have been wrecked, and we have been dealing with the fallout in different ways. So being compassionate is a good thing, you never know what goes on in other people’s lives. In my opinion, the only people to blame are Fauci and the medical establishment, Pfizer and the Democratic party politicians. The rest of us are just dealing with this horror in any way we can.
Brahms, your story breaks my heart. Just when I think I have fully comprehended the fall out of this very dark chapter of history, I hear a new story and realize how much is left to be discovered. I am very sorry for all the suffering you and your family have endured. I am grateful every day that I had the good fortune and privilege to avoid getting jabbed against my will. With your permission, I will pray for all of you. All my best.
Thank you.
I will add your family to my prayers!❤️ I’m so sorry for what you’re going through.
If you never forgive anyone who took the shots you will be very lonely. But righteous.
I am glad you were able to resist and hope you have or will find a better job.
Having only read the occasional tweet from Ben Shapiro, I really have no animus for him. However, your statement has given me pause. "As a Christian, I’m required to give them grace, the same grace I’ve received." Thank you for this reminder. It has been a hard two+ years with disappointment from many people. Brilliant but uninformed close family members who wondered if I had gone down the rabbit hole. Employers who mandated the jab and masks. Employees who did not understand why I just did not take it. With all of this and more, I decided to retire early, leaving a high six figure salary, downsizing my home, mostly because of the stress of fighting the mandated jab and horrible Biden decisions that impacted my work. However, through all of that God was with me. He allowed me the financial means, albiet greatly reduced, to retire and even take care of my elderly mom. I am so grateful to have this time with her that I could never get back. He allowed me this time to get closer to Him and see that despite what it looks like, He is ultimately in control. How can I not pray for that same grace for my family, former employers and employees, neighbors, and yes, Ben, et. al.?
We all had something to lose. But when you trust the Lord before the government like you did, you can't lose. "...do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." People need to repent of fearing their government over God.
Thanks for the scripture, Matt. You are very right. I know there are many that lost more than me, even those that took the jab and now have medical problems, deaths in their families. I still believe Romans 8:28. "And we know that ALL (my emphasis) things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to His purpose."
“He allowed me this time to get closer to Him and see that despite what it looks like, He is ultimately in control. How can I not pray for that same grace for my family, former employers and employees, neighbors, and yes, Ben, et. al.?”
Beautiful. Thank you for sharing.
This was such a great post, very thoughtful, gracious and moving ❤️
I suspect that "gentle" Ben was on the COVID vaxxx bandwagon because it was pushed so heavily by Mother Israel. He should have listened to a real doctor, Dr. Zelenko.
Agree that he is most likely "controlled opposition".
Re: Fetterman - A very sad case. Nothing one can do to help him - dead man walking...
May Dr. Zelenko rest in peace. He should have listened to him.
Absolutely. Dr. Z was a warrior and a godly man.
Fetterneck was neglecting his own health and doctors advice before his stroke. He weighed 400+ pounds, was supposed to have been managing his diabetes, cholesterol and blood pressure.
I have no idea if stroke was vax induced, he was a slovenly, ticking time bomb, too irresponsible to care for himself or show up for work, but wanting to advance to higher office anyway. Shame on his Marxist wife Gisele, the real candidate. They both belong finished with politics.
Well, you're a lot more forgiving than I. Of course the govt lied about the shots. Of course they knew many of the mandates were illegal. They didn't care because they wanted to get that crap in the arms of as many people as possible, and they went to great lengths to accomplish that goal, regardless of the consequences.
The problem I have with all the idiot sheep who took the shots is, "the govt lied to me" is no excuse. This may sound harsh, but if they lack the critical-thinking skills to make their own decisions, then they deserve to suffer the consequences. These are the people who were MORE than happy to publicly ridicule, and even physically attack, the "antivaxxers". They virtue-signaled and bragged about their moral superiority every chance they got. They fought to take away our jobs and livelihoods. Now, they're sorry?? As far as I'm concerned, they can all get bent. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. We warned them.
I work with a guy thats 6 jabs deep including 2 flu shots. Also wears his mask all the time. Crazy !!
Well this new jab should finish him off.
Without a face shield, he's still under grave danger.
😂😂😂.
Does he wear one of those 6 foot social distancing monitors that beeps when ever someone gets too close?
Shapiro is smart but hard headed and has his blind spots. Did you know his wife is a doctor?!? (He reminds people of this frequently or he used to). My bigger concern is how many people did SHE push to get the vax. With both of their platforms combined, they are both likely responsible for many vax injuries, not to mention the psychological berating and contribution to discrimination against purebloods. I don't have quite as much grace to extend him because when it happens again, I think he will likely defer to the experts again. While he is right on many issues, I still consider him "establishment".
He's smart, but he pushed the vaxxx for years.
He's smart, but he says Trump will ruin the country and push us to war.
He's smart, but he pushes Biden's policy on Ukraine.
I can go on.
He's not smart.
He's a propagandist.
Agree! And his voice grates on my nerves, least of all.
Not sure why people gave so much attention to what Ben Shapiro said, ever, about anything. Sometimes my intuition takes care of things without telling me.
Ditto
Yup. Agree.
I think it's precisely BECAUSE Shapiro's wife is an MD that he went along.
-She went along (I'd bet) because the medical profession trusts the so-called experts.
-The so-called experts went along because they trust their benefactors, the Medical Industrial Complex.
-The MIC went along because ... "That's very nice upper-class lifestyle you got there, Doc. 'Be a damned shame if your daughter couldn't afford to go to Wellsley/Penn/Harvard anymore."
He's too much of an insider to appeal to me, but Ben probably changed many more minds with that single rant. Its way better than being a coward and pretending like it never happened.
I agree. It's better to have them awaken to what happened and what they did to themselves. I already have people say to me I was smart not to do it and even asked why I didn't take the shot. Good. Maybe they won't get fooled again.
Wait until we find out that the U.S. was responsible for the bioweapon, C19, and the release was connected to Ukraine, not China....and that the war in Ukraine is to cover that up, but oops, Putin knows about it.
Just wait.
Remember Chy-na? There’s is a city in Ukraine called Chyna- very near one of the biolabs!
What bio labs?
Ukraine did what, again ?
Did Ukraine also stub your toe and give you hemorrhoids?
Dear Ben Shapiro,
For the past 2 years you've promoted misinformation and encouraged people to get the covid "vaccines". Unlike many of us, your misinformation was from the "approved narrative" and you weren't banned from social media or shunned by friends and family.
I'm glad you've finally woken up and are now maybe ready to do some actual journalism and look into the concerns many of us have had for over 2 years about the covid shots.
We are not crazy conspiracy theorists. Why have we been silenced? Why is it wrong to have a different opinion or concerns? When did science change to not allow debate?
You have a lot of catching up to do..... many of the things you uncover will be very disturbing.
Please use your platform to end the covid shot program, to stop the mandates, AND to never allow any of this to happen again.
Sincerely,
Alice
P.S. https://youtu.be/t-2rnEdK0HQ
Dr. Oz vs. Featherhead? Oz gets my vote. He already has a one stroke lead and they're not playing golf.
Good one 👍
Ben Shapiro is a fast talking weasel! Prior to Event 201 / Plandemic, he was unwilling to look at the lack of science behind ALL VACCINES!! After all, he is married to a pediatrician/Pharma salesman. While it has been an extremely painful (almost) three years, God has answered the prayers of many of us in the Health Freedom Movement (aka: Anti-Vaxxers) by opening the eyes of more people to the corruption and collusion between Pharma and government.
I agree. I can't take more than about 20 seconds of Ben Shapiro. He strikes me as slimy.
Mr. Childers, I liked your view on forgiveness for those who didn’t help us fight the mandate fight. We forgive because we are forgiven. It’s been a tough pill to swallow because I haven’t heard one word of an apology from my jab-loving family, and I know I never will. But I want them in my life, so I forgive them without it. Thank you for the words of optimism and hope and a reminder of what grace really is.🙂
We can forgive, but we must still demand that justice be done so that this never happens again.
“It’s been a tough pill to swallow because I haven’t heard one word of an apology from my jab-loving family, and I know I never will. But I want them in my life, so I forgive them without it.”
Yes, this! I struggle to maintain this attitude even knowing the Good Lord requires it.